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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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post motherless
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Linkers aren't that good
stop fellating them
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Post em
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Q-QUARREL SHOOTELIN
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can we have a thread without people that haven't even hit level 100 trying to theorycraft

i guess not
>>122544303
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>>122544303
No one is fellating them

Stop being a contrarian moron because you saw some paragraphs with the word Linker in them
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>>122544303
Some people kicked my psycho out of lvl 50 dun parties because I'm not a linker.
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>>122544301

My wizard shoots his regular projectile autoattack if not using staff secondary.
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>my character for the OP image
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nth for IMC isn't going to extend the beta and this game is DOA
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>>122544457
338 here
my nigga
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Rodelero is pretty fun
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>>122544338
actual playtime: much much less
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Restrain attack traps are the most bullshit thing ever, even more than the boss running off screen at <1% health left then running away and coming back at full health.

I got stuck above it in the corner and could not move, heal/exorcise would not affect it, silence lands for the entire duration the traps are active and it was like 1/7 times they respawned that I could actually attack until they respawned again. If I had an extra 15 minutes I might've been able to kill it, but maint killed me first.
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>>122544663
>Rodelero
>not female for the spats
ONE JOB
ONE FUCKING JOB
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Patch it little girls
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Maintenance going on?
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>>122544813
maybe
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>>122544791
>Restrain attack traps are the most bullshit thing ever
Just link them :^]
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>>122544338
I've never left a shop open over night though. So this is actual played time.
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>>122544802
girls are gross
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ded game
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Making a post for all the classy ladies out there. Remember to thank your Thuamaturges!
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>>122544903
Marry me
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>>122544903
I thought you gave up after misusing your cards
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How do I KISS my friend?
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>>122544903
Don't copy me onee-chan!
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>>122544856
>linking traps as a solo priest
Restrain attack traps should lower your attack speed to like 1/2 or 1/4, not completely shut off your ability to attack.
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>>122544802
gotta agree with this
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>>122544338
>tfw only 130 hours
Fuck work man.

I should have been an illegal migrant to Germany.
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>>122545035
Shoulda gone Linker
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okay so while we wait for maintenance.
someone please tell me how do i memetexts and put pictures on chat
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I hope they add huge lodges. I want to have an army of characters on my lodge screen. Even better if you can pose them with emotes.

Also how does the squire/buy in shop work? You can go on other characters while it's up, but could you go full autism and have multiple squires and put them at all the good spots? Or do they limit you to 1? I guess a way around that is to make multiple accounts if it is limited.
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>Broom Trap

Who names these things.
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>>122544859
You can open up a shop and log off or change characters and the shop will still be there until you close it.
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Some skill questions for skills I haven't seen in action yet:

Can you use Chronomancer Back Masking to revive mobs/bosses after you kill them? Or how does it work? Can I party up with a barb/highlander, gather up 20 mobs, have the barb 1 shot them, get loot/xp, back mask and one shot them again for more loot/xp?

Does Cataphract Impaler give more smackdowns per points invested? I remember seeing some dude who kept smacking mobs down multiple times but I also partied with another guy who just did once each time.

How does Paladin Conversion work exactly? Is it a self buff that lets you converts enemies for X seconds on hit or is it a magic circle that lasts for 11-20 seconds and enemies inside have a chance to be converted when you smack them? Can you buff/debuff/attack the enemies you convert? How long do they stay converted for?

Does Paladin Smite do extra damage to some types of enemies besides those weak to strike? I've seen Paladins in Mage Tower 5f smite for 6k and I've seen Paladins in the prison smite for 10k.

Also, does enhancing the damage attribute of skills increase total damage dealt by the skill (attack value + buff + debuff + base damage) or does it only increase the listed damage of the skill?
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>>122545137
Can you use that to easily trade items among your characters with the Buy In shops then?
Would that drop your Potential too?
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>>122545130
>>122544216
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
>Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!
BRs , SJWs , WoWfags , CodKids and Casuals do
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>>122544903
You look like a fatty.
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>>122544791
That's because of a bug with being pushed into a corner though. Under normal circumstances you can just walk out of the trap radius to get rid of the silence.
Basic traps are way worse when bugs aren't involved.
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>>122544791
fire traps are worse since the boss can knock you into them randomly and they will do like 80% of your health
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>>122545202
You can only buy recipes and materials with the buy-in shop. And you can transfer money by requesting a beginner material your new character has and pay like 100k for it. Find a secluded spot so other people don't find it though.
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>Wizard>Cryomancer>Psychokino>Thaumaturge>Sorcerer>Alchemist

How gimped would I be if I went on a costume path?
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>>122545130
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>1 week until wipe
>friend function fix
>it'll be probably the perma notification
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>>122545354
Cryo/Psycho combo wombo does really good dmg, thaumaturge is somewhat useful, sorcerer I've seen a lot of and they seem to have decent damage output through the boss and alchemist I don't know about, seems like a jew class that's able to craft 200 crit attack pots.
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>>122545354
That's not too bad, actually.
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>>122545414
The harpeia is orange, fuccboi.
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>>122545354
yea one rank of thau ain't great just go psychkino c2
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catching up on animu while the servers are down
make it stop
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>>122545354
Cryo is pretty crap unless you go all in.
Psycho is kinda fun but also kind of useless if you don't go for C2
Thaum is great even if you only go for a single Circle
Sorc you don't need more than C1 to get the most out of it
Alchemist right now C1 is all you can get, but eventually you'll probably want to either go all in or nothing
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Does anyone have any experience with Druid? Not sure what to go after Bokor C3.
as if i'll ever get to rank 6
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>>122545582
Wow sorry
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What are you doing now while waiting for the maintenance to be over?
ᵀʰᶦˢ ᵖᵒˢᵗ ʷᵃˢ ˢᵖᵒᶰˢᵒʳᵉᵈ ᵇʸ ᴹᶦᶜʳᵒˢᵒᶠᵗ'ˢ ᵂᶦᶰᵈᵒʷˢ10™
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Do Sorc's summons get effected by attribute attack such as Arde dagger, or are they only effected by Int?
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Are sorcs any good?
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>>122545929
Only Int.

>>122545935
Yes and no. Depending on the map your summon can become basically worthless since their AI is so shit they just get stuck in place.
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>>122545720
Krivis/Bokor3/Druid here.

Druid is what you want. Carnivory is very strong and you can pair the Druid invincibility with Mackangdal for 20s of invincibility.
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Will the market still be unsafe after maintenance?

I just want to sell my expensive shit without having to /y for an hour.
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>>122546132
no there gonna be a wipe )
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>>122546032
would you trade a rank of bokor for another of krivis or do you think c3 was worth it
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>>122546132
The game already told you, mate. Trust no one, not even yourself.
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>>122546132
>sitting on 15 drake films
>market price is upwards of 50,000 per but they just get stolen
>nobody buying them through shout
>buy in shops give at most 2000 per film
Orgasm denial is the worst fetish
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>>122544903
can you give a swelled head kiss?
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So which classes are gonna be core for WoE?
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>>122546258
a few healers on backline
full con cryo if dispellers don't work
thaumaturges for buffs
hard to know
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>>122545354
that is literally my class path until I realized that Linker is better than Thaumaturge if I was only going a C1 in it since I'm picking Sorc after
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>>122546258
Templar
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>>122546258
Templar
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>>122546258
Linkers, imagine the fun of coupling up invaders
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>>122546258
Templar is a must have
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>>122546385
>>122546428
>>122546462
What is this Templar meme
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>>122546502
Literally the only class that can make guilds
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Just in case anyone missed it:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/regular-maintenance-notice-nov-17-preparing/118235
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>>122544303
I don't mind people making use of support wizards like linkers and thaum.

But holy fuck this >>122544395

People act like gravity pole isn't fucking amazing all of a sudden.

At least with the party glitch I had my own party so people had to suck down their own retardation and just do the damn dungeon. It's like they're trying to super optimize what's frankly some really easy shit either way. You only need a linker if you're bad and have no other AoE or control. They make up for the fact that they aren't offensive wizards by linking.

A priest with proper buffs is going to do infinitely more for your group anyway.
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Would going Krivis C2>Paladin C3 be rubbish if I went full int?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/58jx9svrql/

Would the amplification of zaibas from conviction be able to make up for a 0 str smite?
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>>122544395
Make your own party to prevent stuff like that from happening. Just grab a healer and go on hand-picking people.
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>>122546542
A Priest will make you do 10x the damage that you would normally do? Play the classes you want, and party with the classes you want, but don't try to act like Linkers don't bring more to the table damage-wise than any other class in the game.
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>>122546645
"Where's the linker?"
Shortly before they leave and remake the party without you.
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>>122546542
>People act like gravity pole isn't fucking amazing all of a sudden.
?
Gravity pole is great.
Also Kino C3. I never saw a kino c3
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>sell gold bar for 90k and doesn't get stolen
>sell thresh crap for like 20k and never gets stolen
>sell junk from 100-300 never gets stolen
>only see people talk losing shit they expect several hundred thousand for and etc
So is it actually stuff being stolen or is it this "invisible items" in the patch they're fixing now?

Are people targeting these on purpose to discourage people for release?

is it IMC doing it to fight inflation?
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Only one week left and there's still somehow people in this thread who have never shared a kiss.
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>>122546206
I feel like Bokor3 really shines in places with a lot of mobs but Demon Prison was the only place like that. There's a lot of mobs that are Earth element as well so I feel like Zaibas is not as useful as the Effigy (when it's not fucking broken), Zaibas will scale a lot better though. I do like the extra 2 movespeed on Samdiveve and Bwa Kayiman's damage kinda falls off if it's only Lv5 on mobs after Demon Prison. Not a good sign because it's only gonna get worse for Lv10 Bwa Kayiman as well. Damballa's damage will scale with your Matk but it's difficult to use mainly because there's never enough mobs to Zombify.

For the future, Krivis2 or Priest2 / Bokor2 is most likely better. Plague Doctor looks like it has AoE so Bwa Kayiman is most likely going to become a mob gathering tool.
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>>122546601
Smite really doesn't care about str, it just hits hard from the raw power of the move and it has some multiplier that I don't understand. This is me with max dex and I don't even have a meme dagger.

That being said, if you're going Krivis C2 you might as well go Saduh. Out of Body is an int based autoattack and you'll be getting max int for Zaibas anyway.
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>>122546667
I'm saying I've not run with a group that's so piss poor at dealing AoE that a single provoke+gravity pull combo hasn't destroyed entire rooms. Like I get that it CAN be helpful but I have yet to see where it actually improves the speed of a run versus clean pulls and CC. I feel linker is a shitter crutch. It's not a fucking necessity, it's just another way to play the game and do content. Linker is just easier for idiot groups running barb tanks and sadhu healers I guess.

And yes, priest buffs are infinitely superior when it comes to general party damage increase, especially on bosses.
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>>122545096
it has gotten way out of hand why would i tell more people
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>>122546907
>And yes, priest buffs are infinitely superior when it comes to general party damage increase

And you haven't even said how. When you link 10 monsters and they all get joined to one location like what normally happens, your attacks hit every single monster 10 times. I'm not saying you need a linker (you don't), but it's factually incorrect to say runs will not be faster and damage is not substantially increased when you use a linker.

But yes, as you've pointed out, they don't offer as much on a boss. Really though, you can play whatever you want with whoever you want, but I don't understand why you're trying to convince yourself that Linker doesn't contribute an ungodly amount of damage to any party it joins.
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>>122546819
Thanks for the insight and yea plague doc looks so awesome
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>>122546978
>out of hand
>haven't seen even like 10 people do it

This secret club seems a little too secret.
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>>122546907
It's because Joint Penality literally makes every AoE hit twice, because of original damage + shared damage on every monster if both are hit at the same time.

That + buffs like Enchant Fire/Sacrament + Blessing makes your party hit like crazy for more than 2x their damage.
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>>122546823
> it has some multiplier that I don't understand.
It hits really strong against demon and mutant type enemies
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/03nopazhpo/

Ladies and gentletraps I present to you the future proof wizard build. Avoid power creep and skills that will become useless late game. Suffer now so you can dominate tomorrow.
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>>122546907
Any boss with adds gets fucking destroyed by linker. You just link the adds and whatever traps are around, drop a single AoE, and the bosses HP spikes down. It's ridiculous.
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>>122547060
I'm not trying to "convince myself" you cock gargler.

I'm pissed at the fact that I'm being refused dungeon runs because I'm not a fucking linker because shitters think they're fucking the most important part of anything.

When(again apparently because you're too fucking stupid to soak this in) they DON'T increase run speed that much if you make clean pulls. Hell I'd argue it's slower with a linker who can only link 10 mobs when you can pull the whole fucking room of like 30 and just AoE them shits while they're locked down.

You also have to keep in mind that the linker you have in the party IS one less true damage class, likely an AoE damage class, link is HIS way of dealing damage. When in reality a good pyro/psycho could do just as much, if not more as long as they don't cock up their spells.
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>be Psychokino in level 90 dungeon
>use RNG teleport to jump down after clearing out the bottom area's stage thingy
>everyone tries to follow me but they have to walk around in the end
truly the funnest class
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>>122547238
>yfw free reset scrolls
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>>122547060
>But yes, as you've pointed out, they don't offer as much on a boss
They can get rid off traps for free I guess, but those are barely ever really a big deal anyway.
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>>122547238
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/03nopazhpo/
You'll be hanging yourself before you even hang 10 monsters
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>>122547305
teleport needs a cast circle
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>>122547196
50% extra damage from crits
50% from plate
100% to demon/mutants
100% to holy weak due to sacrament

so say you do 100 damage base because I dunno

that's 900 if all those happen
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>>122547292
the game's shit dude. just play the right class or dont play
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>>122547162
Yes I get that and I'm not saying they're useless. But it's like people don't even acknowledge wizard has OTHER classes that can be useful.
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>>122547365
already way ahead of you
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>>122547238
>not wiz c3 to share quick cast
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>>122547238
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>>122547292
You forgot your Illya
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>>122547391
>everybody use this testing period to play only the "right" class
>also we're giving a reward to people who get rank 6, hope you picked right

If that's your fucking attitude let me change class advancements then.
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>>122547305
Would teleport be able to get you to the areas no one knows how to get to?
Like the place in Royal Mausoleum and the Constructors' Chapel?
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>>122547490
You can jump against the wall to get up at constructor's chapel. Nothing up there though.
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>>122547292
You seem upset, friend. I'm not the one denying you parties here, and I never said that other wizard classes suck. I'm simply saying that Linkers are really damn good. CryoKino is just as broken on bosses, and Gravity Pole is silly, but there's no real reason you can't do full room pulls with Linkers and have it go just as fast if not faster because of the 10 link.

Also, who here is denying you parties because you're not a Linker?
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>>122547413
Jesus tapdancing christ
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>>122547292
>they DON'T increase run speed that much if you make clean pulls
makes everyone hit twice
>not that much

> Hell I'd argue it's slower with a linker who can only link 10 mobs when you can pull the whole fucking room of like 30 and just AoE them
I'd only agree if
>AoE Attack Ratio.
And take a wild guess what class have an attribute that reduces monsters AoE defense ratio.
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does level affects drop rate in dg?
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>>122547292
>everyone can hit 30 mobs at once

wew
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>>122547638
>AoE defense ratio.
literally what does this thing do

also what does the Hangman's Knot damage attribute do? Does it make the enemy take damage when they clump up or does it make them take more damage from attacks?
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>>122547292
A lot of jobs don't have easily spammable AoEs. Linker makes all your single target shit hit everyone.
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>>122547292
something that has literally happened once if ever
oh noes i'm being persecuted by memes

no one ever does a dungeon without one tank one healer one support 2 dps!!
no one would ever take me as the support!!!!!!!!!
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>>122547592
Nobody here because I don't play with you fuckasses and am only here because maintenance.

It's the general concept of it. And plenty of shitters think that linker is the only thing that matters. I've literally had to solo dungeon runs for exp because groups weren't taking me.
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>>122547743
>linker haters confirmed for not even knowing how the game works.
But sure, keep playing your psycho. I'm sure it's a lot more useful to a party over an actual class that specializes in party synergy
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Disappearing items on market means that some people used CE to cheat the market?
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>>122547743
my memstroke used to hit 6 targets at once, but now its only hitting 3
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>>122547743
It deals a very small amount of damage when they get knocked into each other, it's pretty shit since it knocks fireballs away. AoE Attack/Defense Ratio is a multiplier that affects your AoE skills. I forget what the exact % was, like 3% per point or something?
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>>122547849
Citation needed
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>>122545585

what's great about psycho 2?
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>>122547292
>Hell I'd argue it's slower with a linker who can only link 10 mobs when you can pull the whole fucking room of like 30 and just AoE them shits while they're locked down.

These 10 mobs die super fast. Since AoE ratio is a thing this immensely helps to kill the pull faster.
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>>122547790
So you're getting mad over shit that no one here is saying, and angry that you're getting kicked from parties no one here invited you to, and you thought it'd be great to come here and bitch to us about it?

Did you ever think of just playing with us?
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>>122547743
AoE attack ratio is the amount of enemies you can hit with your attacks. Enemies have AoE defense ratio, that lowers the amount of enemies you can hit with attacks. Hangman's Knot attribute lowers the AoE defense ratio enemies having, meaning you can get the full benefit of your AoE attack ratio.
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>>122547887
pressure stun, but honestly if you're going that deep you should C3 for pole. Actually you probably shouldn't roll psycho at all if you aren't going for C3 because pressure is a mediocre nuke without the stunlock and the other C1 spells are laughable.
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>>122547305
what circles you do take with psycho other than cryo? Or did you just cryo then psycho all the way?
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>>122547790
You are quite mad, perhaps you should take a minute to collect yourself

Or take your anger out on the thread and get laughed at I guess
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>>122547887
You can complain here, on /tosg/, about linkers stealing your jobs.
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>>122547849
yes I'm sure they are using cheatengine to steal all of my flower branches

they just want to fill up their inventory with 5000 of them
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>>122547931
>did you ever think about playing with even worse shitters who spout memes all day and spend the majority of their time in these threads and not the game licking each others anuses while pretending to be girls and acting "cute"

Yeah, nah.
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>>122547743
>literally what does this thing do
Most skills that are AoE have a limit to how many things they can hit at once. Let's say an arbitrary attack has 10 AoE Ratio and each of the 10 mobs infront of you has an AoE Defense Ratio of 2, you'd be able to hit 5 mobs with said attack. Now if Hangman's reduces everyone's AoE Defense Ratio by 1 you'd be able to hit all 10.
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/oj6x2wbg8v/

I had this planned for next beta. Any opinions? Unsure about Alchemist skills yet so I left that open.
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>>122547849
Some faggot stole my Digeles I was selling for 50k each. I want them back
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/r3-sapper-spike-shooter-review/117872

Well this sounds concerning. Not sure I'm going to go Sapper C3 if it's this bad. What should I go for tier 5 instead?
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>>122548001
Oh no, faggots who will never know me and I'll never care think my plights are fucking HILARIOUS.

Glad you're enjoying my venting though. Also what do you even mean by "collect yourself?" Just ignore all your negative emotions and slowly die inside? Because that ain't me.
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>>122548086
That is literally last thread's discussion on how to make future proof alchemists
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>>122547292
>I'm being refused dungeon runs

If your behavior is like this ingame then it's not your spec.

I ahd no problems getting into dungeon groups multiple times at 50 90 and so on as a wiz pyro 3
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>>122548110
it doesn't matter which classes you choose as an archer, you'll always be shit
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>>122547943
AoE attack ratio is the radius. That's why Snow Rolling increases in size by level. If it was the amount of enemies that wouldn't make sense because of how Ice Pillar works (it does have a limit to how many enemies it can pull it, it'll eventually let others run around while constantly sucking in the same 12 or so mobs)
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>>122548149
I just woke up. I need to check the last thread then. Thank you!
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>>122548158
>behavior

It's literally

>join group
>immediately kicked without even getting to say hello

Or

>be in group
>they get 5
>some guy speaks up about not having a linker
>get kicked

I hardly even talk in the game and when I do it's usually strategic or general social things.

I could bitch on the forums but that'd be even more pathetic than bitching here.
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>>122548143
m8 I'm just telling you if you keep acting like this all people are going to do is shit on you and laugh , vent all you want you fucktard.
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>>122547743
http://wiki.tosbase.com/wiki/Stats#AOE_Attack_Ratio
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>>122548180
nice thanks for the input friend, your memes are top notch
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>>122548000
I went Cryo, Psycho, Linker, and I'm gonna go Sorceress after.

Cryo C3 is actually so cool in action but I didnt want to struggle through C2 so I went Kino since I saw that Ice Pressure attack webm. I went for Linker after because it would be the only class to synergize with Sorceress (Thaumaturge would've been a nice choice but only 1 level was meh). I suppose I could've went Kino c2 but Hangman's Knot has a 15 second CD (counting Joint Penalty) while Magnetic Force has a 40 second CD.

I think in Open Beta I'll try Cryo C3 into Sorceress into Alchemist
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>>122547985

well, i have psycho c1 on my build because i'm cryomancer c3 atm (rank 5) and you know how it works well. but i was wondering what should i aim for rank 6.

so...since psycho c2 is meh too besides the stun atrib i dunno what to get, TT c1 seens to pump my shards, linker 1 is aways useful and necro/sorcerer seens meh

any thoughts?
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>>122548275
Should've rolled linker
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>>122548275
You can solve your problems by being the party leader, retard.
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>>122548205
There are attacks that ignore AoE def and just hit a set number of mobs
linker moves
possession

It'd make sense that ice tree has a max number of mobs that can be sucked

but AoE attack ratio is the number of total mobs you can hit if they all have a AoE def of 1
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>>122548275
Could you stop making up shit? I played multiple characters and never ever did that happen. No one was ever kicked out of a group not being a linker and neither was I. I probably about 60+ combined group clear dungeon runs on my characters
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Not sure if I want to roll pyro/thaum or pyro/linker for the final release. I chose pyro/thaum for this beta and the damage it does is awesome, especially with the dagger. I'm worried about the buffs becoming insignificant in the higher levels, though.
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#nonlinkerlivesmatter
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>>122548287
You think I give a fuck? Look at where you are right now. /vg/ is one of the most incestuous cancer ridden places on the internet. And the MMO threads are always the worst. I don't even care about fitting in with normies, so why would I care about fitting in with you jizz stains?

I'm mad about other shit, but what's really hilarious is if you fuckasses get mad about me.
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>>122548323
you could go Alchemist and make lots of jew gold + free awakenings. Probably out damage everything else just through the power of equipment.
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>>122547873
>It deals a very small amount of damage when they get knocked into each other,
Wrong attribute anon

>I forget what the exact % was, like 3% per point or something?
what
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>>122548393
Linker is future proof.
Even more so when enemies will only get more and more AoE defense
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>>122548393
Keep in mind that thauma gets obsolete at one point with swell arm.

Linkers complete kit always stays relevant.
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>>122547639
Level doesn't affect drop rates at all.
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I would still take a wiz 3 ele 3 in my party. I would still take a thauma cx without linker in my party.

Is this guy complaining playing some sort of freak build or what is going on?
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>>122548275
Crying like a bitch about parties and talks shit about not wanting to party with /tosg/
>mfw I run dungeons with whatever classes are around all the time and don't give a shit about party comp since dungeons are piss easy
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>>122548358
>my anecdotal experiences override YOUR anecdotal experiences

I killed a blue mob.

Not once, but TWICE.

I bet you think I'm making THAT up too.

>>122548332
And I have been, it doesn't mean this shit isn't fucking ass backwards.
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>>122548521
he's just projecting
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So what are they gonna do with the mainstoryline?
All the godesses are pretty much free already.
Are we eventually going to get our ToS-version of Rekenber?
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/regular-maintenance-notice-nov-17-preparing/118235

>Added more channel to 150 ~ 200 LV areas.
They just edited this in.
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>>122548393
In release you could go all 3 eventually.
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>>122546737
i've lost a silver falchion recipe at 80k and a couple of weapons i've sold for around 20k
not all things i sell are stolen though
put a couple meme daggers up for sale and tell me how it goes
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>>122548419
Ok
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>>122548603
Rarely see anyone in 175+ channels.
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>>122548603
Glory to IMC. Fixing things in the last week of beta.
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>>122548287
Why did you put a space before your comma? Is it because you're a homosexual?
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>>122548603
Holy shit it's real
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I'm now at cryo2 atm and deciding if I should just go c3 or linker or psycho. Which is better for solo grinding?
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>>122548575
Have you gotten to the last couple quests in CBT yet?
The goddesses just used you this entire time and aren't exactly the epitome of all that's good in the world after all
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To the guy saying he got kicked for not being a linker:

Are you sure thats the reason you got kicked? I think I read somewhere in this thread that you mentioned you got kicked before you could say anything
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>Added more channel to 150 ~ 200 LV areas.
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>>122548603
ONLY ONE WEEK LEFT ONLY ONE FUCKING WEEK LEFT AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE CHANNELS NOW AND FRIEND LIST WORKING.

FUCKING TURBOGOOKS THEY BETTER EXTEND THIS SHIT.
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>>122548603
How will field bosses work like this?

Will there be one for each channel?

When release comes out and there's multi channels for everything will people just chain field boss running forever?
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>>122548603
Now extend it for just a week, pls
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>>122548529
This. I party with my sapper friend who just invites whoever's around so we can start the dungeon without waiting around. We had tons of runs where there was no "Healer" or "Tank" and it went fine.
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>>122548603
Oh fuck me couldn't they have done this when it mattered
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>>122548703
Cryo C3 gets you the only 2 skills that are actually worth a damn in the Cryo kit. It's definitely worth going for if you have any Cryo in your build at all.
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>>122548703
psycho if you like to nuke bosses and linker if you like to kill multiple monsters more often.

Go Cryo3 if you are c2.
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>>122548707
Is best godess, teleport statue, at least good?
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>>122548703
at that point, probably Linker is better for solo grinding, Psychokino falls off at that point at C1. You can still link your icewalls to do the staff attack. I'd still recommend you go to Cryo C3 if you're already Cryo C2, your C3 skills are so fucking amazing.
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>>122548754
They're always on channel one right?
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>>122548323
Go Alch for full jewing
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>>122548859
Have we ever had world bosses in areas with multiple channels?
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>>122548885
Could have sworn I read somewhere that they're always on channel one
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Server's back up.
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>>122548637
I'd sell them for 200-250k through shout :^)
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>>122548935
Corea's is always online, nerd
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>>122548806
>>122548828
>>122548846
If i go c3 which class would compliment the best for it?
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>>122548703
I think Linker would probably be the most efficient, but Cryo C3 is so fucking fun and since this is a beta that's going to get wiped I'd recommend you fuck around with that a bit. Both the snowball skill and the Ice Tree are fucking amazing and some of the most fun to use in the game.
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>>122548947
Would sell first kiss for a dagger
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>>122549018
Maybe go Sorceress. It'll give you all the DPS you could ever want even at C1 and even though Ice Pillar is fucking amazing skill, it doesnt actually do any damage without Snowball, which has an even longer cooldown.
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>>122549020
The two could combo pretty well

linked enemies all take an attack, including all of its effects

so if you linked an enemy and then used snow rolling, all linked guys would get stunlocked as well
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Are servers up already?
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>>122548885
Do you even play this game? Can't you at least bother reading the list of world bosses right there in the OP?
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>>122549020
>be Linker
>party with a Cryomancer C3
>about to Joint Penalty Hangman Knot a few enemies
>Cryomancer CC and pulls the entire room with Ice Pillar
mad jelly desu senpaitachi
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>>122549073
How's the dps of sorcerer? Is the fire minion any good?
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>>122549154
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>>122548443
>>122548864

well, i think that's gonna be the way. thx anons!
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>>122549183
Sala is pretty great, mostly just because he doesn't require any SP to upkeep. You summon him once and he's there killing shit for you until he gets stuck on some random stairs or a zone line. The cat familiar's buffs are fucking amazing, it's a shame the buff limit is so low if you don't have a high level Daimo though, using it is basically purposefully knocking everyone elses essential buffs off.
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>>122548110
Pls respond

Has no one else tried c3 Sapper?
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>>122546785
haven't kissed anyone and I don't want to I got dosh and exp to gain
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>>122548885
Tenet Chappel and Cave Mines, always channel 1
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>>122546785
How do you kiss people? Nobody will ever tell me
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>>122549382
greetings or thanks
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>>122548419
my sides
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>>122549273
I played in a group with a paladin that had the SP Regeneration Aura and a Sorc with the cat SP buff, and I didn't use a single SP potion in that dungeon. I normally have to use them on cooldown.
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This generel is supposed to be /cute/
>No kissing
>No lewd stuff
>No interaction with squires
M-Maybe holding hands is fine!
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>>122549382
do greeting facing each other and then right click -> like
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>>122549535
The walking bonfire Paladin was no joke, honestly surprised. The hood is cute too
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>>122549549
But after embarrassing myself trying to get the position right the first time, I think I've finally got the measurements down. I should be able to run up and kiss someone in one fell swoop now.
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>>122549593
The only proper way is to like each other at the same time for hearts into kiss emote combination.
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>>122548947
Oh my, how cute, /tosg/ is so pure.
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>>122548603
>level 150-200 areas
>not level 50 > 200 areas
Fucking EVERYTHING beyond tenet chapel is one channel only. It legitimately doesn't fucking matter if they add more channels if it wont affect the majority of people actually pl aying.
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>>122549708
Sauce
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>>122549617
Paladin also doubles the regeneration of bonfires. If only they replaced Conversion and Turn Undead with useful skills.
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>>122549745
Watch them neglect to add channels for demon prison.
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>>122549832
Maybe people wouldn't be stuck on demon prison anymore and would look to other maps
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>>122549832
Yea, I'm not up to that because I've rerolled 3 times to chars who are 100+, but I would not be surprised in the least if they didn't add demon prison channels. It's kinda like how constructors chapel only has one channel as like 50+ afk farmers there.
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>>122549773
We have alchemist potions, regen is useless.
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>>122548731
>Are you sure thats the reason you got kicked? I think I read somewhere in this thread that you mentioned you got kicked before you could say anything
not him but right-click char info exists.

but I also think he's projecting way too hard, since with dgs and parriea breaking every other day, everyone just wants to get a party and roll the dungeon before it breaks again as fast as possible
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Post your face when they only add one extra channel.
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>>122548731
Not that venting anon, but for the lvl 50 dungeon, I was prob in my mid 70s while the rest of the party members are lvl 50-60s. Most people would invite me, but some prefer a linker. During several parties, some would complain saying it'd be better if the party had a linker. Personally, it does get saddening when they say that, even more so when I get rejected, but meh what can I do.

And no, I couldn't make a party, and never could because the bug was never fixed for me.
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>>122548947
Are you guys for real?
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I want kiss posters to leave.
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I need to roast gems on Laima.
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>>122549956
Kissing is too intimate, I don't love anybody in this game
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>>122549273
So what should the skill distribution for sorcerer look like?
This is how I did it. It's hard to gauge how good Sala and and boss summon is by just the skill descriptions alone. A video demonstration would be nice.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/0r16xcq6y1/
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>>122549948
>mid 70
>got kicked by 50-60s
>"i bet its because im not a linker"
I'm pretty sure thats not the case
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>>122550148
>0 Attack Ground
>0 Hold

absolute madman
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Somebody posted our FoE thing on rebbit
https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/3t4pzd/can_someone_make_a_simple_field_boss_timer_app/

pack up
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>>122548947
b-but I WAS curious!
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>>122548603

in b4 demon prison now has 2 WHOLE CHANNELS
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>>122550215
Does the boss do nothing without those skills?
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>>122550214
They said they want a linker instead. They'd rather invite the lvl 80+ elementalist linker than me. Only once I got kicked out because they said I'm too high lvl.
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are there any actual girls in here
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>>122550367
no
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>>122550367
Yeah here's a pic of me irl
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>>122550215
>>122550148
Attack Ground is worthless in its current form, but Hold can definitely be nice since it lets your summon kinda do their own thing instead of just trying to follow a pixel behind you all the time.

I went with 5 Summoning, 1 Riding, 1 Hold, 3 Summon Sala, and 5 Summon Servant
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>>122550405
hey wanna kiss
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>>122550334
He will attack, but he follows you around on a /very/ short leash, so the second you step away to dodge an AoE he'll stop what he's doing to follow you, it's really annoying. You can probably get by with just Hold, since Attack Ground kinda has the same problem, but not as bad.
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>>122550405
you're cute, this is me irl
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>>122550367
I hope so because I got this warm gooey feeling in my head while sharing a virtual kiss with someone and I'm going to feel really silly if I find out it's a boy.
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>>122550367
Sure
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