The public release of ADoM is out on steam now for 15 shekels; shouldn't be too long until a new torrent is up.
DCSS 0.17 Tournament is currently ongoing: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.17/
Clans are locked.
Check out Forays to Norrendin if you are looking for a new RL to try: http://forays.github.io/
Also check out Demon, it is being consistently updated with new content and balancing: http://demon.ferretdev.org/
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to play: http://pastebin.com/dyPKMEBv
Rogue Nexus – Cataclysm Online and more: http://roguenex.us
ADoM pastas: http://pastebin.com/VaH5UVN8
AliensRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/20ZTFzwZ
Angband pasta: http://pastebin.com/j8SSFvCT
Brogue pasta: http://pastebin.com/nkUaca3N
Cataclysm DDA pasta: http://pastebin.com/UAqhKZfc
Caves of Qud pasta: http://pastebin.com/0ExECmUn
DCSS pasta: http://pastebin.com/6Nz5cuww
DF Adventure Mode pasta: http://pastebin.com/7HB7Tc1y
DoomRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/2vZsvsfD
Elona pasta: http://pastebin.com/tU9qkAqt
InCaveAd pasta: http://pastebin.com/HeDX5yNK
Incursion pasta: http://pastebin.com/Q87xYnBq
Infra Arcana pasta: http://pastebin.com/jMb7fZfN
IVAN pasta: http://pastebin.com/GnJeGWTT
MaiDenSnow Eve pasta: http://pastebin.com/BJFyCUnS
NetHack pasta: http://pastebin.com/XRp5mBhz
Omega pasta: http://pastebin.com/0vkDNuyX
One Way Heroics pasta: http://pastebin.com/jFh3nrxy
PosChengband: http://pastebin.com/ZLZZz45j
Prospector pasta: http://pastebin.com/DjPrRQu8
Sil pasta: http://pastebin.com/NRyD5jtt
ToME 4 pasta: http://pastebin.com/GVDJksuM
UnReal World pasta: http://pastebin.com/QfgkYkNA
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>>122528410
first for I'm bored
>>122529037
>was going to watch half of the mumo VoD today and the other half tomorrow
>ended up watching it all today
GUESS WE BEST REV UP DEM ROGUELIKES BUDDY
Do your best, anon!
>>122529212
>Cheibriados
>Pronounced Shaybriados
IT ALL MAKES SENSE.
MARK MY WORDS, I'M GONNA GET GOOD AND THEN GET AN ULTRA ENDING WITH TILES ON MY PURCHASED VERSION.
AND THEN I'M GONNA BE IN THE OP.
MY JOURNEY SHALL BE FUELED BY SPITE
FUCK YOU /rlg/
>>122531336
>implying OP would put in the OP image over yet another 3 rune gargoyle or berserker
>>122531567
>implying you faggots are winning other than DCSS
How's it going, /rlg/?
>>122531336
I think most readers of the general don't mind one way or another about the manufactured kerfuffle over paying for a roguelike. I'm okay with devs making money from their fun game, and I'm also pleased when devs choose to have their game available for free.
>>122531656
I certainly can't speak for the rest, but I've been largely on break from playing while I get other stuff sorted out. Mostly lurking for the past month or two except for posting some advices Though if PCB 4 does actually come out on around Christmas I'll probably be lured into playing and posting content.
I have a confession to makeI like playing zerker in PCB so I don't have to deal with all the devices and scrolls
also have yet to figure out this macros and inscriptions shit after 50 hours of playing
>>122532186
Come play tome with us, anon.
I've decided, to make this archmage more interesting than the usual beam spam, I'll "RP" him a bit as a Conveyance specialist of sorts. I'll max out everything in Conveyance except probably the last one because I'm not sure what use it's supposed to have. At least I'll have a crapton of positioning options.
>>122532469
that's definitely one of the reasons to play them. When I'm exhausted or bored or intoxicated, I favor the android berserker.
If you want, I could help you into the various automation tricks. It's easiest to start with inscriptions. { and } the inscribe and uninscribe commands. @ means "assign", then you can put a key to assign that object to. Or you can limit it to a particular command. So "@q1" could make you select the inscribed item by pressing 1 if you're quaffing. This simple trick keeps you from fat-fingering if something moves the order of your inventory (e.g. a stack of potions is exhausted), and lets you keep it consistent across games. @qc for quaff critical, @qs for quaff speed.
The other useful inscription is !, which means "ask for confirmation before". So !q means "ask for extra confirmation before quaffing". You can use !! to make it ask more than once. This can help you make sure you're intentionally drinking that Potion of Speed or Life or whatever is precious.
That's where I'd start getting comfortable with, before autodestroyer or macros or keymaps.
>>122532567
daww, maybe. We'll see. I have it installed even.
>>122533306
honestly if it's just shortcut keys I don't care enough to inscribe shit since I like to play cautiously and think through my actions
the one thing I'd like to figure out is the auto picker uper or whatever
Not having it is a pain and the default one doesn't work too well later in the game
>>122533672
The autopicker is opened with "_" as you probably already know. If you hit esc while in there, it opens the menu which lets you build out your "sentences" before you know what all the keywords and syntax are, though you'll pick that up quickly as it's pretty simple.
I'd just delete the entire contents and build up your own autopick rules from scratch piecemeal as you encounter items and decide what you want. ctrl+k deletes an entire line at a time.
>>122533672
>>122534471
Not the most precise advice I know, I started to fall asleep. The ingame help file on the autopicker is really good.
>>122533037
Bretty rad, anon. What are you gonna use to kill things?
>>122535691
I was actually just going through that, didn't mean to freeze you out, anon
thanks for the advice
>>122528410
>140k turns for only 6 runes
jesus christ what was that gargoyle doing the whole time
>>122536340
He also took 13 hours doing it. I can 15 rune in less time, without THAT many more turns. We were all new once.
>looking through pictures of old PCB runs
>reminded of my intense hatred for cyberdemons
you're going down, oremorj
It's a good thing I'm a gargoyle
Great work, team!
Are there anygeneral helpful tips I should know about Demon? I feel like I die a lot and it was not particularly avoidable rather than my fault. Although it could be my fault for going with Titan's Fist
@DOG
>>122537110
good luck. I hope he drops his armor and also that you don't die
>>122539727
I've had moderate success with that game, getting to T:8 pretty frequently.
My general advice is have 2 healers, and try to break up packs by negotiating and pacifying demons even if you don't actually want the demon.
For slightly more specific advice, I find spreading the dodging skills from Goblins along all your fighting demons is really good. Mob Cover especially is good for surviving when you're outnumbered. Block Impact and Reshape from Slimes are also good low-level survivability skills.
Also, if you can break line of sight, you CAN escape enemy demons, especially if you leave a demon behind to distract them for a bit, then unsummon it. It's not a sure thing and I think it depends on some sort of hidden AI stat, but getting around a corner and booking it while my demons sucked up some damage let me escape a double Raicho pack that would have fried me otherwise.
Also corridor fighting is just as useful as it is in DCSS. Try not to fight 8 demons at once, unsummon and resummon your demons for better tactical positions.
>>122537634
This is the reason we can still throw things into lava.
send help
>>122542218
what's your SOS mail code?
>>122542318
bigguy4u
>>122542613
are you the riolu/pikachu?
First win of tourney. I wish I hadn't splatted to juggernauts in a zig on my run that had 11 runes
;_;
I wish I could git gud.
>>122540721
Got to be more talented than me at it. What do you pick at the start? The third and 1 1/2 seems to kill me the most, despite how good or bad of a start I get.
>>122542698
Which pokemon is a skeleton who stabs people really at sanic speed
Geez this game is serious about its item destruction.
>>122542942
My best Titan's Fist run went with Sure Slice+Counter Attack and Bloodthirst with a Faerie. Just cranking up STR because you always hit, getting to heal when you hit, getting counterhits on enemies, and then having healing support for you is pretty strong in the early game.
My thoughts on early demons-
Echeneis are fragile but the cold debuff is great. Having one fight with you or other demons is nice, but don't expect it to be able to fight alone. Also, it's skills are kinda shitty so they don't scale well.
Faerie- Healing is good because while it takes a lot of skills to make demons that can kill without being killed, spreading Healing Charm around your support demons like an STD is an okay way to boost survivability. Keep an eye on your Faeries MP- if it runs out of mana, you might want to swap out
Freybugs- A debuffer whose skills shouldn't be underestimated but aren't for everyone.
Gandayah- a de-debuffer that can basically double the MP of your healing demon with refresh. Nice skills to pass on. Also useful for killing Raicho packs, since he resists elec and can exploit their 'getting punched' weakness.
Goblin- easy to recruit and has Evasion and Mob Cover, which can eventually turn into basically +30% dodge to your entire party. GET THOSE SKILLS SON
Huo Shu- shit but fire damage can be nice early on
Malingee- Big strength and two block skills means they're good for skill training and for being your #1 frontline fighter early on. Also fire resist!
Raicho- don't be fooled by the deadliness of enemy raicho packs, these die when anyone looks at them
Red Cap- basically a shitty malingee with worse elemental vulnerabilities, but they're pretty reasonable to negotiate with and can at least take a hit
Slime- great skills, high HP but vulnerable to everything. Fine to be used as a meatshield and skill teacher,
Will o Wisp- good resists but can't block for you. Evade step good.
Zombie- special ones on 1 1/2 can be pretty good.
zig 5 done
>>122545802
Doesn't that get boring?
>>122546291
it does, but I gotta push on to max skills, almost there
Did they remove the dream event from Dogroth Caldera, or are skellingtons just naturally immune?
>>122549045
That shit was always the buggiest. Honestly, don't know.
Is there a good guide on ADoM?
This shit is overwhelming.
>>122550895
did you look at the OP?
>>122551057
I did, I was looking for a more step-by-step o-
Well shit the longass version of it actually does that.
Thanks m8.
>>122551245
No prob senpai, have fun
>tfw not in the OP
o-ok
>>122528410
I'm in an OP again yay
>>122551805
>tfw been in the OP twice now
>only one of those was because I won something
>the other was because I played MaidenSnowEve and got raped and had cum everywhere
>>122531336
LOL! Not DCSS!
>tfw I am the real monster
well shit, I forgot to screencap my skills before i ascended, so then I try to go to the highscores, but there's some problem because I have .15 and .16 of crawl installed, so I don't know where the .16 saves are, only the .15 ones. I maxed my skills but i can't show it. Well, even if I could, I couldn't prove I didn't savescum because I did this all offline. Well fuck. Take this screenshot for what it's worth then
>>122553936
>using the installer instead of downloading the rars
>not having 1.71 gigs of DCSS builds
>>122553936
moved so spells are visible, god bless .16's singularity
>>122554315
anon, you just won crawl. Nobody cares.
>>122555118
Well I think his clearing of 5 zigs and maxing all skills is pretty fun.
>>122554315
Good job anon.
>>122555180
>Well I think his clearing of 5 zigs and maxing all skills is pretty fun.
it's just crawl.
>>122555225
And they're all just games.
No need to be so anal about it.
>>122554315
Is that the resistance shield?
Gz on maxing btw
>>122555301
>and they're all just games
I guess the lesson to be learned here is "don't eat random corpses of your enemies".
So the pasta says to join hecate, which is the chaotic god. I tried, but the game says she's ignoring me. I checked and I am chaotic, since the paladins don't want a chaotic fiend like me.
So I just ended up doing a three rounds in the arena. I know it's going to get way tougher so I think I'm gonna stop here. Honestly the pasta really doesn't say that much about the game or how to play it, so I'm kinda lost.
I looked up a guide for omega online and I got this old-ass page here http://arns.freeservers.com/faq_omga.html which seems pretty good. Apparently I already fucked up though, since
> The guilds are the key to success in Omega, and joining a guild should be your first action upon beginning a game. You want all of the experience you get to count towards advancement in your guild, so you should join a guild before you disarm your first trap or kill your first monster or go on the Oracle's first quest.
Anyway to restore a save you have to go to CMD, then run omega.exe (filename).
It's so old timey, it's cute. I'm probably gonna restart right now.
8 thousand turns to a rune, not bad
>>122555180
thanks
>>122555319
yeah, that's the resistance shield, I had the choice of it or the shield of the gong, and I went with the shield of resistance, and thanks
>>122557115
>turnfags
>>122557221
>not using the gong
Woah real.. What are you a pussy?
>>122557437
My character had trouble filling elemental resistances and didn't have very good EV, so I was forced to take the resistance one. The Gong is definitely a lot more fun
Lady, you gotta stop speaking in riddles.
>>122557331
>not caring about turncount
the only reasons to disregard turncount are if you're learning the game or if you're playing a hard combo
>>122557732
turncountfags are the worst of the bunch. I will play the game at my leisure how the fuck I want. If I wanted to speedrun I'd probably not choose a turn-based game.
I feel very bullied.
>>122557781
and that's perfectly alright, as long as you understand that you're a casual
>>122557827
Thats nothing man
>>122557827
thank god you're a centaur and you can rake in that free OoD XP
>buy boots of speed at pawn shop
>+1 rapier
>+3 tower shield
>I'm level 3 now
>do the fifth arena combat
>it's a manticore
>you were hit by a missle!
>game freezes
>...
>wow, a new highscore!
Alrighty then. Don't fight the fifth arena enemy and I guess the game freezes when someone throws an arrow at you or something.
>>122557872
>not playing MuMo
no anon. You're the casual.
Every time I play a game, I end up making loads of emone.
>>122557872
>playing a strong combo
>calling others casual
top kek
How do I avoid getting fucked by level scaling in Tome? Minmaxing every level to keep the power difference as low as possible?
Alright apparently the manticore was the seventh fight. And this dude that seemed so easy to kill with my boots of speed is actually pretty darn tough.
So, if you wanna play Omega don't do anything past the third fight in the arena.
>>122558349
I've never really gotten fucked by level scaling. Are you talking about the uniques mod?
Alternative answer: play a skeleton for that hella dank exp penalty.
>>122554315
where did you farm? getting maxxed in 15 hours seems pretty effective
>>122558541
If you have fire resistance and good armor, you can do the second batch of fights.
If you have invisibility, you can pull off the third batch, including the manticore.
>>122558214
Stealing is wrong, son.
>>122560601
You can do up to the manticore with boots of speed since you can just hit-retreat every fight, even the fire ant one. But yeah, invis would help with the manticore.
>>122560867
>boots of speed
One day I will have them.
One day...
>>122560920
I literally bought them at the pawn shop with the money I got from breaking the ATM.
Just restart until you find them.
Are you any good at this game? I have never heard anyone talk about Omega in /rlg/ before yesterday.
ayyyyyy
>>122561453
>>122561525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_CcJ-uBWI
>>122561846
Why did I just watch five minutes of a man screaming while squatting as if he has to take the biggest turd of the century
>>122562040
>not having it on repeat for hours
It's like you don't even want the best acquirement advice mate.
>>122560995
>Are you any good at this game?
Nah, I just started playing two days ago.
Omega is pretty comfy though. Feels like ADOM and Incursion mixed together.
Ladies and gentlemen, ADOM Steam release.
http://www.adom.de/forums/project.php?issueid=3988
I suggest waiting at least a few months if you want to buy it.
>>122551245
There's no step by step guide to ADoM. You need to know too many things to make a simple walkthrough. Visit the wiki and prepare for a lot of reading.
>>122557732
>m-muh speedrunning
oh man, this is the backstory for Omega.
>>122562876
>incursion
What about it is like Incursion?
Just curious because I love Incursion.
>>122564882the inventory systemwhich is the worst part of incursion
>>122564882
>>122565041
Yeah Omega's inventory system makes me want to bash my fucking head against the wall.
Please tell me there's a way to increase your pack's item limit.
>>122565453
>Please tell me there's a way to increase your pack's item limit.
There is not.
Woo.
Do we have a team in the 0.17 tournament? Completely missed it.
I bought a +5 katana at the pawn shop.
Nothing personnel, kid.
>>122566043
Disregard this, I'm blind. /rlg/ #1 apparently, sick.Where are dck and sage?
>>122565527
>>122565453
>>122565041
>>122564882
>twenty-four keystrokes to eat a bucket of fried lizards
>>122566229
E-g
that's two keystrokes if you put your buckets of lizards on your belt
>>122566192
Basil is MIA and dicks started streaming roguelikes a month ago, it's pretty entertaining.
>>122566192
rlg's big black cock is fucking everything up.
dck streams MuMo now and again. No idea where sage is.
Clearly the team is doing great without them though.
>>122566276
>put your buckets of lizards on your belt
Holy shit I can put my lizard buckets on my utility belt?
This changes everything.
>>122566502
buy something like 20 or 10, they stack on that same inventory slot.
>>122566561
>they stack on that same inventory slot
Is there any way to make things stack if you acquire them at different times?
>>122566671
No.
>>122566308
>>122566460
Can someone post a link to the vod archive? I saw it once but forgot to bookmark itand I browse privately so people won't know I'm actually an autist.
>>122566726
>pawn shop sells a cursed scythe of slicing, +20
>and a pair of boots of speed
oh god
oh god oh man oh god oh man oh god oh man
>>122567012
Time for faults!
>>122567012
>you step on a disintegration trap
Guys, guys, guys, I dont even...
First time I see a wyrmbane and its THIS early,
thats a D5 sewer...
Guess I am ditching axes
>>122566779
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsutlHZM6kCXon9wAn_jFkA
Goblin caves are a great way to make some scratch.
Once you hit d3, goblin chieftains drop great axes that you can sell for 133 each.
The levels also reset if you visit a different dungeon like the sewer in the hedge maze.
>>122567374
Do it
>>122567447
They're not boots of speed, but they'll do just fine.
>>122568191
But random encounter on world map, and killed instantly.
The pasta wasn't kidding about cloaks of invisibility.
>>122568191
>5.0 speed
>+8 buckler
>that attack and damage
>those defenses
holy sh-
>>122568648
iiiit.
Are missiles just like
ballistic missiles in this game or something
>>122568737
Anything fired or thrown is a missile. It was probably a manticore out of sight.
In any case, I don't see how you're supposed to survive random encounters on the world map. That was on a square right next to Rampart, and I didn't get a single action. I just spawned with a jabberwock next to me, which promptly attacked me upwards of 10 times.
>>122568994
it's fun!
To the anon that reuploaded the oldRPG tileset for ToME:
There's already version 2.0 out. Seems like they're updating frequently.
>My most successful adventurer, Cauthon, joined the order of paladins, who decided he was good after he donated some money to the orphanage. They gave him a spear and a horse to ride. He bought some armor at a shop, some food, and headed out. Within moments, he got stuck in a "chaos storm," which had killed one of my previous characters, but Cauthon survived it. The game told me this was a "learning experience" and advanced Cauthon several levels. A weird voice on the wind said, "The Eater of Magic can be found on an island." I wandered east, having to eat every few steps, and then suddenly, in a forest, something cast a spell that caused me to go blind and I was killed by a brigand.
Well, I guess that's why nobody here has ever won Omega.
It's a game made by Xom.
>>122569593
Funnily enough, it was CPRGaddict's posts on Omega that made me pick it up.
>>122566779
>implying they don't know already
wew lad
This omega thing looks like a lot of work
Haha are my summons out of Dragon Quest?
Noice
>tfw bad at pcb
I put too much value on aesthetics
>>122572792
>>122572792
>>122572953
There's my buddy.
Maj'Eyal better be ready for us.
I am finding everything but actual pan runes
Fifteenth floor or something
>>122573086
>>122573126
>59 MP
>But those weak defenses
That is pretty insane.
>>122574680
Vinestalkers are deceptively tanky - and dmsl does it's part, too. Ring of fire prevents enemies from spawning clouds or beams - it's all pretty solid. Even got tornado castable, too.
>>122574680
He's using a literal trident!
I'll be sure to only play gargoyles from now on
Need that 60 ac
>>122574815
I'm just surprised at how "low" your defenses are. Usually I'm in pan with 30+ AC/30+ EV, but your MP pool is absolutely ridiculous as a second pool of HP. How much MP does your bite restore usually?
>>122575402
Something like 11-34, I'd wager. It's not uncommon to see a quarter coming back.
Shit, I forgot my 1800 stack of stones on a zig floorfault
>>122576509
>1800 stack of stones
>Not a 200+ stack of javelins of penetration
>>122576727
all about dem numbers
How do I download Omega off github
I am a little torn.
>>122577857
You probably lose a pip of stealth just by wearing that helmet. Its just a shitty MR helmet, wear the +0 unless you don't have MR.
Should you generally just quaff potions of beneficial mutation?
>>122569593
The real Matt Cauthon, Prince of Ravens, Lord of Luck, the One-Eyed who spites Old One Eye, wouldn't have had such terrible fortune. False ta'veren confirmed.
>>122577857
Short and stout. Here is my helmet, there goes my dex.
>>122577857
>>122581098
also now I can't get this stupid shitty variant of a kid's song out of my head
fuck
>>122581087
>A pair of horns grow on your head!
You should drink it because it's fun.
this character jsut went from sneaky stabber to necromancer wargod
>>122581087
Yes.
Also potions of mutations ff you have spare cure mut and don't plan to do extended
>>122581087
>A pair of horns grow on your head!
>Your helmet +2 of Nine Gods {rC+ Str+1 Dex+3} falls off!EVERYTIME
>>122582830...
So what do you guys think about Sanctuary RPG?
Not really a roguelike, but I dunno what to call it
>>122582978
Kinda tedious, to be honest.
That's all I can say about it.
>>122582718
Dayum
I would still sneak around anyway.
Those are the gauntlets of war too right?
>>122582976
>You feel fantastic!
>>122583123
you know it
>>122582976
>You see here: the hat of the alchemist, boots of the assassin, fencer's gloves
>>122583409
He can still wear gloves tho
>>122582976
Looks like the latest experimental is off to a good start.
>>122583637
Guess the Demon Queen did fuck the butler after all
>>122583637
>rlg in charge of cropping
also, fug
>>122583896
Hopefully they added new fursuits to make up for this
>>122583896
>playing experimental
Do you enjoy pain, anon?
![278d4c12c8[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/kqLdE2k.png "278d4c12c8[1].png")
First time ive gotten this far as CK
This has been fun as hell
Gotten a lot of nice mutations too
>>122588006
Do your best, anon.
>that message log
kek'd
![e3b9ea6acd[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/71LpAXR.png "e3b9ea6acd[1].png")
>>122588180
>tfw
>>122588883
Dayum, nigga.
>>122588883
You will never see the end of the game with this character :)
>>122589831
Pretty rude to be honest family
>>122589831
Why are you so rude ;_;
>>122589914
>>122590106
I am just softening the blow in advance
>>122533306
Do you have macros for spellcasters? The only things stopping me from playing casters in PCB is all the damn button presses for spells and targeting.
>done everything up to vault cept slimes
>been ported into abyss about 3 times and come back the hard way
>still no rMut source
I want to get out of mr Zot's wild ride
>recruit the shelter npc
>he ineffectually shoots his .22 handgun at a zombie soldier on the way into town
>bunch of zombies come to investigate including a shocker and a brute
>somehow we kill them all
>he lies down in the middle of the road to sleep
I love dda npcs.
Any reason to pick human over demigod in PCB?
How do I create a desert world in DDA? I know it's hidden in there somewhere.
>>122591103
You don't need rmut for slime, silly anon.
>>122591187
Magnificent.
>>122591290
Are you a fag y/n
>>122592198
n-no
>>122592351
Then picksnotling
>>122592463
what stats do i want for a ninja?
dex>str>?
>>122591290
>not wanting to be a base human
Really?
>>122592571
I want to go fast with hermes desu senpai
Unless humans get something that makes ninja really good from that level 30 list
>>122540721
>>122544449
Thanks for the assistance, got to tower level 6 before I died. Mostly because I was unaware how summoners actually work. I didn't know killing the summoner first would bring out all his monsters. That's a clusterfuck. More so, if you avoided killing his first three monsters in the first place.
>>122590184
yeah, I definitely believe spellcasters require macros (except for your first one or two while you're figuring out the very basics).
First off, and THIS PART IS STUPID, macros and keymaps are slightly different. In practice, the difference that matters is that macros work no matter the context (e.g. in a menu or not, it will still trigger) where keymaps only function when your dude is waiting for a command.
There's really only one true macro that I use, setting the TAB key to act as *. (that's star * and period .), which will select the nearest visible monster as a target, whether you're at rest or in the middle of a choose target prompt.
To set up this macro, type @, use 4 for "create a macro", choose to make a macro for the TAB key, and then set *. as the macro contents.
Beyond that, I use keymaps. As I use the roguelike keyset, my 1234567890 keys are all free (because the roguelike keyset uses hjklyubn instead of number pad/row). I often will keymap a number to my input sequence for using my detection rods/scrolls, and other numbers to my bread and butter spells.
Keymaps are actually what are used to create the different keysets, under the hood. Also, the item inscriptions start to matter a lot more once you use keymaps that refer to your items, because you don't want your inventory shuffling around and changing what scrolls it automatically reads or whatever. So e.g. I inscribe my detect monsters/traps/doors rods with their own @z1 @z2 @z3 so that my keymap for 1 can be z1z2z3. PCB inscribes your spellbooks with @ma for the first one, @mb for the second, etc, lets say I want to cast magic missile as the first spell in my first book by pressing 2...the keymap would map 2 to maa.
I hope that helps. Ask for clarification at need.
>>122592682
nah the only advantage to being a basic human is the faster XP. Demigods and humans share the list of mutations, but demigods get two (at 20 and 40) where humans only get 1 (at 30).
Endgame demigods are strictly better than basic humans, but take much longer to reach level 50, meaning you have a lot more time to own fault.
>>122592561
yes dex is your friend, then strength and con. The most important and hard to find thing for a ninja is quality endgame weapons that you can reach high skill with. The best daggers are a pain in the butt to find. But OTOH you can go for a long while with basic enchanted daggers with that sexy special crit instakill type blow.
>Be a Earth Elementalist
>First book I find is a book of Geomancy
>Second book I find is a book of Geomancy.
I don't know what to make of this.
>tfw there exist people, in this very thread even, that have won *bands with spellcasters without using macros
Crazy, anons. I know there for sure exist such people that played ToME2. And won.
>>122593656
Ah I see, thanks
Are ninjas basically limited to dual weilding daggers?
>>122594290
You should be able to dual wield any short blade so small swords are good to go on a ninja, IIRC.
>>122594156
Lich sounds great on paper in PCB but damn the build up takes FOREVER on one. Any good Lich guides for PCB?
>>122594156
My first DCSS win was with a DEFE.
I never used a weapon or trained a weapon skill.
I never bound a macro.
I took 17 hours to beat the game
I literally got carpal tunnel syndrome during that run
>>122593436
Is there an idiot's guide to macros and keymaps? I tried reading the helpfile some but I just want to know what does what so I can set it up accordingly.
>>122594714
I have a lvl40 or something Lich in PCB right now, just sitting there shelved because I got immensely bored.
Just go full statstick mode, I got lucky and he's wielding Werewindle and some other good shit. You can scum for pets, too.
>>122594290
More or less, though it's not QUITE that restrictive. They're certainly better at dual wielding daggers than almost anybody (exceptions: dagger masters, rogues, warriors, berserkers, but those last two are the dual wield kings of all weapons anyways).
Skilled rank cap in broken dagger, broken sword, main gauche, rapier, small sword, short sword, wakizashi,
Expert rank with slings and short bows. Oddly, none of their melee weapon skills are capped at expert, only at lesser or greater skill.
Master in dagger, tanto, ninjato, dokubari, dual wielding
I'm not sure if all of the things they can get decent at are weapons you are "comfortable" with or not...it would be a bit weird for you to get high rank with an uncomfortable weapon but I wouldn't put it past chris and I'm not sure what things trigger that offhand.
>>122593950
You are an earth elementalist and Mr Zot saw fit to show you he appreciates it
>>122595005
>statstick mode
I am sorry but can you explain that terminology?
>>122595102
Makes me want to roleplay Thorfinn as a dagger master
>>122594848
I don't think there is yet. I've written up guides in threads often enough that I should probably just make one at some point.
The tl'dr to macros and keymaps is a) generally you want to use a keymap unless you know exactly why a macro is better (e.g. my targeting keymap needs to work both at rest and inside a targeting prompt), and b) you have the triggering key which should be something you weren't using for something else, and you map it to the sequence of standard keyset keypresses you want it to automate.
>>122595339
Go for items that give you best stats and resists and don't worry about anything else, like equip weight etc.
Eventually your strength will be high enough to handle all that shit. Let me fire up the Lich for a sec and I'll show you.
>>122595339
not him, but it means to wield a weapon for its plusses and resistances without actually intending to hit things with it...so you don't care about whether you can skill up with it
>>122595398
dagger masters are loads of fun. I highly recommend using the all randarts mode for one because the randomized artifact daggers are relatively common and often come out very powerful and fun.
>>122595453
Thanks!
Help.
>>122595401
>I've written up guides in threads often enough that I should probably just make one at some point.
If you do so, please post in this thread, I visit /rlg/ a lot so I should see it.
>>122595717
He's conserving ammo man.
>>122595673
>tfw being a stabber without ring or boots of flying
>>122595780
Yeah if/when I get around to it I'll post it linking to the OP and get it added to the pasta.
>>122595005
I'm glad that mr magic skeletal is still alive and not randomly faulted somewhere.
>>122594156
hey anonwhat did you think of Stakes
>>122595543
Go for resits and shit. The HP isn't gonna go much higher, speed as well unless you find boots of Feanor.
Two Dracoliches scummed up earlier and pokeballed. They don't help as much as you'd like them to help.
You get mana bolt, but everything resists bolts. You get mana storm, but much much later on. Level 45 or even 50. Grindy as fuck.
Does the sheep/sticky flame thing no longer work in DCSS?
>>122595903
it never even occurred to me that pcb liches don't get a shooter slot
damn, there are some really nice statstick shooters out there
>>122595717
It gets better.
Probably won't even be able to make it over to him since he decided to run off at a zombie and slap it with a book.
>>122569426
Fuuuck I'll upload the new version in a while, hang on.
>PCB
>Omega
>ADoM
>some sil
You bring a much needed rest to these weary eyes, anon.
>>122595717
Zombie guts are one thing, but having to clean up all that sticky syrup? Gross.
I don't even like ToME that much but I keep coming back to it because it has a half-decent UI. Are there other games with decent UIs which don't require you to memorize more than a few hotkeys? Managing inventories is the worst.
>>122596069
It's fine, might as well wait a few versions, this one just added a few weapons.
>>122596072
agreed
>>122596030
It's fun. Fun is bloat.
>>122596296
If you have not played DCSS you should try it
>>122596296
All the *bands.
>>122595903
I'm already grinding with this Half-Troll Blood Knight just for gold, equipment with (excellent) at passive ID, and experience.
I think I'll stick with melee hitdudes for now but thank you very much for taking the time to show me your Lich.
>>122596051
Fuck now that I actually opened up the Lich for the first time in like a month, I'm feeling the urge to play it.
>>122596296
I know it's not popular here but I found the interface forSword of the Stars: The Pitto be quite intuitive as I could play without having to look at my keyboard as most of the default keys can be used by the left hand side of the keyboard with just one hand.
>>122596310
Okay, I'll reupload every 2 versions or everytime someone asks.
>>122596681
That works!
>>122596541
doot doot doot
>>122596786
Gonna do it, why the fuck not.
It's not like even leveling to 40 is going to cost me half a year.haha release me from this eternal rattle
>>122596030
it was a spoilery and pointless interaction
>>122596786
I really like zdizslav berskinsky or whatever the names of the dude was
>>122597229
nice memory, yeah it's Zdzisław Beksiński
I have a few other things of his saved, not much but it's good stuff.
>>122597010
Whats their xp penalty?
>>122597436
I remember downloading a torrent of most of his art and then selecting something like a hundred or something
I should look at them again!
How are liches? I've been told they're not that strong when you consider the XP penalty.
>>122597474
275%
>>122597713
as lichbro was saying earlier, they're a pain to level up but they do end up getting Manastorm down to a very low failrate in the endgame. The biggest thing isn't just the XP penalty, it's that combined with manapool limitations, frequently resisted spells reducing your damage output (e.g. darkbolt is resisted or partially-resisted by almost everything, but it's still your bread and butter for a time) and fragility. They get some really nice inherent resists, a vulnerability to light, great device skill and stealth.
a good monster race is the Angel. Great defense/offense/stats and a built-in healing spell.
>>122598361
Thanks, /rlg/-bot
>>122598361
And a high XP penalty.
>>122598510
Is this speed run general?
>>122598437
#&& up yours
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>>122598650
I prefer the reversed version of that gif
>>122598851
But anon
That is the reversed version
>>122598978
I don't think so, e.g. look at the bubbles coming out of his mouth near the end
>>122599112
I was kidding
>>122599282
shhhhh
I have 3000$ I stole from the bank.
Do I buy the unblessed boots of speed for 1 K or do I spend 2K on the blessed ones?
What's the difference?
>>122599442
No more tears.
Only spells now.
>>122597195
So wasfucking your mom.
Did DCSS nerf chunk creation in .17 or something? I feel like I shouldn't be going hungry this much.
>>122599721
Poison enemies now give nasty chunks that you can't eat with rPois.
Well, I bought the blessed ones anyway
>>122599496
>>122599952
yeah I don't know or play that game, but I was guessing that the blessed ones are probably worth it unless you had a specific plan to do with the extra money. Maybe they get a bonus against corrosion or theft or disenchanting or whatever? I have no clue.
