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Obey Panda Li Li Has A Posse edition

>What is Heroes of the Storm?
A raucous online team brawler starring your favorite Blizzard characters.
An Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides developed by Blizzard Entertainment.

>What makes Heroes of the Storm different from other already known and popular MOBAs?
Matches last 15-25 minutes, Item system replaced with Talents, focus on objectives and team fights.

>Whats New:
Cho'gall Nov. 17th
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/chogall/

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.


>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130


Previously on /hotsg/: >>122225360
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First for HORSEPANTS
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third for >tfw Garrosh never
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>>122371038
I hope Garrosh can main tank

So fucking sick of Muradin and Johanna being the only ones
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>>122371075
What about ETC?
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>>122371075
honestly I don't care how he's designed, I just want him in for the buttblasted dialogue when he's on a team with Thrall/Rehgar/Jaina/etc.
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>>122371075
Jo is down to a 20% pickrate in masters and 32% over all
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>>122370973
>doesnt pick a talent mid combat
So this is what being a shitter feels like
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>crypt lord was possibly the tankiest hero of wc3
>anub is made of paper
feels weird man
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>win 2 games
>next one the team somehow loses the entire objective and becomes 2 levels down before 2 minutes have even expired

some matches are genuinely a waste of time where there is nothing to learn from it
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jhoanna murky or rexxar which one is more funny to play and which more strong
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>>122372781
Johanna is strong
Murky is fun if you enjoy his unique type of play
Rexxar is trash
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>>122372781
rex is most fun, probably weakest
murky is mid fun, mid weak
jo is lowest fun, strongest
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>>122372935
>>122372889
is murky playable in solo queue or in quick match or i need a support with me?
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>>122373119
QM Murky works well solo if you can play around team mates that can't play around Murky.
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>>122372508

Sonya is so broken you can have le impatient spaceman of autolosses on your team and still roflstomp your way to victory
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>>122373172
sorry i'm not english native i can't undestand :solo if you can play around team mates that can't play around Murky" can you explain ?
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>>122373441
he's saying to play Murky well, you have to learn to play around people who bitch and moan because they don't understand how he works and don't know what you're doing
this applies to most specialists btw
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>>122372781

Rexxar
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>>122373441
What it basically means is that you have to be good at murky to make him work in QM
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>>122373441
Some people just don't know how to play with Murky in their team. If you can babysit those people from time to time, it's fine playing Murky in QM.
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>>122373441
Murky is trash, that's all you need to know
you're fucked if the enemy has a support
and if that support takes cleanse you might just want to afk in base
buy Johanna
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I wonder how much shielding a team of 5 tassadars could put out
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>>122373721
>not just octograbbing the support
wood
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so johanna or murky who is more useful?
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>>122374087
Johanna.
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another question zagara or sylvanas who is the best in push and in general? which one do you like to see/play more in your team?
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>>122374272
zag
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Is there a trick that makes Chen's flying kick land behind the target? I don't get how Chen pickers can body block right away after the kick
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>>122374272
Zagara is always good, Sylvanas is a situational hero

>>122374757
Its supposed to always do that but its bugged to hell afaik
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>infernal shrines
>enemy team firstpicks Gazlowe
>we get Kael and Sonya (me)
>our healer is Rehgar
>our Valla is a toxic spoilt brat who calls gg when we lose the first punisher because Rehgar is a trash hero and doesn't do anything
>proceed to lose from there

only constant is me
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>>122374757
it says it kicks through the target, but sometimes it just doesn't because >Blizzard QA
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is balance joke in hots
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i think i'm addicted to this shit, please send help
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>>122375052
Balance is surprisingly good for a blizzard game
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I unironically believe that Triple Tap is one of the best ultimates in the game at level 20
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>>122373903
>being so bronze that you get matched with enemy supports with bad positioning
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>>122375278
>not being able to force the supports into bad positioning
dust
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>>122375052
it varies, i think it's near impossible to balance a game like this anyway
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>>122375318
>"force" them into bad positioning
>as murky
now this is getting embarassing
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>valla getting top damage
???
gotta laugh at chen thinking he can drink through giant killer nexus frenzy

>>122375052

balance is passable

two OP heroes (sonya, uther) and three decidedly UP heroes (nova, gazlowe, tychus)
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>>122375220
*unless the enemy team has Uther, Kharazim, Tassadar, TLV, Murky, etc.
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>>122376219

>commanderITF thinks he has any real understanding on hero balance
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Ebin mount + Gust is so much fun but I hate having someone else play him like that and literally save the enemies 90% of the times he uses it
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>>122372781
rexxar for both so long as you aren't the only warrior
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>>122375154
might as well ask blizzard, who will then probably give you 1000 free gold
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Forgot how disgusting some of these quests are, I had to get the heart of a Draenei and some other body parts. Just the blood bath that would be if it actually happened.
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>>122376839

anon please, this is vee gee, not bul lee

also, what is it with BHB and shitty assassin players deciding the game is lost in 5 minutes flat? granted we had a diablo who died 10 times but...
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>>122377719
>I had to get the heart of a Draenei and some other body parts.
>tfw Velen, Maraad, and Nobundo never
>tfw if we ever get a draenei it'll be Yrel or fuckface traitor Akama
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>>122376219
Kael and Jaina are also OP, Raynor borderline

But who knows what happens after the scaling changes next week
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>>122377807
Wrong general but now that we're on the topic I'm curious on what their moveset would even be. I'd laugh if they make Velen anything other than a support
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>>122374985
Actually only constant is Rehgar. Rehgar is trash.
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>>122378373
>Rehgar is trash.
Lies and slander
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Which warrior is the most fun to play?

Friendly reminder that Sonya isn't fun just because shes overtuned
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>>122379152
C H E N
H
E
N
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he's level 15 with Uther
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>>122379867
was it a ranked game?
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>>122379867
You won

Whats the problem
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>>122380029

yea, although that's all it was given how I'm in rust league nowadays

also azmodan had the lowest XP contribution of the team
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I think it's funny how Dustin says K/D/A will be fine for HotS because it's fine for FPS, but in the FPS developed by Blizzard you can't see the K/D/A of your allies during the game.
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>>122380434
>Dustin is the developer of Overwatch
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>>122379152
I liked to play Sonya before she was really good because I thought she was fun, but she's been overtaken.
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Lili is trash. Stay true to Queen Nova!
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>>122380802
Best girl
Worst player base
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>>122380802
>I play stealth heroes
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>>122370782
The Nob. 17th. Date for Cho'gall is when the Blizzcon viewers get him and other who play with them get them too right?
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>>122381108
Yeah its the patch release date
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>>122380802
>blowing a kiss in the original trailer
I came.
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>>122380434
overwatch will get out of its trying to be special stage too eventually
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>>122381417
Yeah, when it's DOA because the maps are shit and the e-sport gimmick kills Blizzard games.
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>>122378373
>>122378913
Rehgar is shit because he is a "not 100% healer" forced into play that role because his utility is shit
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>>122381505
Nah the thing that kills Overwatch is not being f2p

The game is decent but Blizzard is so fucking greedy
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>>122380434
You know, I feel like showing K/D/A in an objective based game is kinda ruining the whole thing because people have started to make it their sole objective.
I remember back in the day in BF2, (and even more so in the oldschool shooters) people largely tried to do the objectives, capture the points and what now. These days people just care for their K/D and try to get as many kills as possible instead of trying to take or defend a point.
So yeah.. if you're in an objective based game, fuck K/D, it's not needed.
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>>122381730
It also doesn't help that his heal is garbage until like level 16 and you have to take every healer talent to make it good.
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You've got some bad booboos. Go heal!
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>tfw spent the last 30 minutes by creating fake emails and fb accounts to get the stupid spider
what the fuck am i doing with my life ;_;
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>>122371196
>Elite Tauren Shitstain
literally only not gazlowe tier because mosh pit exists.
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>>122381897
It's going to be interesting to see how the changes to the game are going to fuck the Vikings over.

Wonder if they are going to rework them because until they get jump they are pretty much just glorified minions.
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>>122381890
that too
he needs talents remade really badly
and that mana cost reduction talent just given as a default buff
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>>122381916
If it makes you feel better one of the few purple mounts and goes well with every Protoss character.
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>>122381916

Wait you can still get the spider? I thought that was a limited time only thing
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>>122380802

kids choice award!
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>>122381983
Holy shit how wrong can you be. Sure, he isn't top tier, but he's certainly a good pick. Hell, he even has one of the highest winrates.
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>>122382194
It's just a Facebook promotion
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>>122382035
Lightning Shield should actually give them a shield. No talent needed.

Totem should be removed or massively reworked and Chain heal should heal for more out of the gate.

For a character who's a melee healer he lacks a lot when compared to Uther and Monk. Uther has a straight up stun and two heals. While Monk has insane mobility, heals by punching with no mana and a great aoe heal.

As it stands the only thing he has going for him is Wolf Mode and that's really only useful during fights when you are running or chasing.
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>>122382194

its been so long i forget what you had to do
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>>122381916
getting one of the best mounts, that's what you're doing
gratz
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How's Falsdead right now?
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>>122382438
Go the that hero site for it, use 4 friends to make a team and give them roles, get code and get spider mount.
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>>122382006
>>It's going to be interesting to see how the changes to the game are going to fuck the Vikings over.
I would assume they get raped by any bursty assassin
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>>122382428
Feral Lunge does make him pretty dangerous, that can put out lot of damage quick
Too bad it alone does not carry him
Both Totem and Lightning Shield are so undertuned that they need something done
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>>122382562
Mean just in terms of XP meaning less and death timers increasing.

>>122382576
If you take Feral Lunge you pass on a healing surge and that hurts him a lot if you are the only support. With a Tass or Tyrande on the team you might be able to take it without it hurting, but I don't know.
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>>122381505
>e-sport gimmick.
Is there really an e-sport gimmick? I think I remember them going: "We're just making this game and we'll see where that leads us".
Surely there will be some kind of competitive scene, but that's always the case. Even games that were made to be casual fun like Mario Kart and Smash bros have a competitive scene.


>>122381795
>Implying you can't sell a shooter any more.
Why not? I for one am looking forward to a game where I don't have to fucking unlock every god damn character by playing for 4 weeks each.
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>>122382860
40 bucks for an arena shooter that is going to most likely sell characters afterwards is pretty steep.
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>>122382860
I remember them saying they're building the game around e-sports multiple times, but I could be wrong. The whole "it being on consoles" thing definitely goes against that, but I donno... It's 6v6s and lobby based instead of drop-in-drop out, small things like that. No CTF more announced either afaik. It just spells shit for an FPS.
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>>122370782
Li Li a best! This'll be a great thread.
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>eSports are bad

This meme needs to die.
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>>122382428
I feel Rehgars healing is fine, he can outheal Uther and Kharazim easily

Hes kind of a mess though since your damage/CC build is almost worthless and all you end up doing is less healing while doing very little in return

Stuff like earth shield and feral lunge should be baseline and adjust his aggressive talents accordingly

Its just sad being a healbot Rehgar, a melee hero who can almost never engage
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>>122382950
>arena shooter
Good one. I know you mean it's not a military shooter, but still.

>>122383081
But it's true. Balance and designs made to appeal to 13 year olds who suck e-celeb dick just isn't positive. It just limits the fun you could have in favour of making it "competitive". In the worst case too, it's not about deathmatching at all, just a faggot fame of positioning.
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do the "pros" play in the shitty ranked system or do they have some inhouse league?
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>>122383081

it is when it literally only exist because Blizzard continually pumps money into it

HotS is a shit competitive game, and so are all MOBAs
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>>122382950
>most likely.
Well I haven't seen anything towards that. So far it seemed like "pay for it, get everything"
If however they do decide to sell single characters anyway: fuck em hard with a rusty rake.

>>122383026
Might be, not sure. I seem to recall it differently but I'm almost certain their offical statement was along the lines of "we'll see".

Not sure about it being lobby based. Seems like they wanna do rounds, CS style and I don't mind that because I'd look forward to something objective based. Most other shooters are little more than glorified DM these days.

And while I really like CTF I'm afraid I get their logic for not putting it in. How would you balance it? With Heroes like Tracer? I don't think it'll be a particular good mode for overwatch. Which is sad because I like CTF. But I guess we get some other modes.
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>>122383450
If it's anything like other games it's just stomping ranked games and scrims against other teams via custom game.
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>>122383236
He really can't out heal Khaz or Uther until level 16 though and each one of them has an ult that does we he does but I think better because there is no cast time.

Khaz if you don't go damage can put up insane heal numbers. Double Breath of Heaven is so fucking good to keep everyone alive and if you are at an objective after a fight you can heal everyone by just punching without using any mana.

If Ancestral Healing was instant or you couldn't get stunned out of it would be better, but most times it's used it's either just to late or way to early because you are worried about not getting it off.

Meanwhile Divine Shield is instant with insane range and Palm you can throw on someone when you think they are about to die and it lasts for a little while or even right when they are about to die because it's instant. Hell you can palm someone through a wall. Found that out on BoE the other die when I was getting camps and a Zeratul on teh other side almost died.
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>>122383081
>e-sports not being bad
>sport
when it's something that you could be playing every minute of the day when you're not watching it, i don't think nerds need a get out of life free card to play until they get arthritis
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>>122383564
When asked at Blizzcon they danced around the question and eventually said we are just concentrating on the heroes announced right now.
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>>122383564
Round-based with tons of DM without losing a strategic element on "normal" servers works for many games.

The CTF balance thing is just a matter of map design I think. Some of those skills are crazy and really break usual FPS-type of play, but I'm sure full-time employees could figure it out.
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>>122383056
>Swim suit li li will never be a thing.
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>try to play on the amerifat server
>every match has gazzlow on both teams
what the fuck
is it because he is ebin memez?
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>>122383715
Oh it will, it will.
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>HL
>guy picks Thrall against LiLi, Sonya and Johanna
>feeds all game
>"is thrall meant to suck"
>tell him his choice was subpar
>"I'm not good with thrall I'm trying to level him up"
>ask him why he's doing this in HL and not QM
>"it's only ranked" "it's just numbers"

To think this time tomorrow he won't be banned from HotS. Blizzard seems to think this kind of behavious is perfectly acceptable.

I don't know what's below rust league but I'm going to find out pretty soon.
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>>122383581
I dont think Uther and Khaz ultis are always better, just different. Ancestral healing is still fucking amazing when you time it correctly

Point is Rehgar can heal, he just cant do much else and his offensive talents are trash

Also when specced for healing he has the least utility out of the three
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>>122383704
I dunno. What possibilities do you have? Make tracer unable to carry the flag? Or Make her drop it on ability activation? It's really dodgy to balance around heroes like her without compromising.
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>>122383450

Lots of them stream and push for top leaderboard rankings in Hero League, so I'd say yes.

I don't think there's enough "pro" players and teams to reliably scrim *that* much.
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>>122383869
hes right. do you think that being the memest hots player will mean shit? do you think it will save your from your frycook job? nope.
it's
just
a
game
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>>122384039

>hey mate want a game of noughts and crosses
>sure
>he proceeds to scrawl all over the piece of paper
>dude thats not how you play noughts and crosses
>LOL IT'S JUST A GAME BRO I PLAY FOR FUN I DON'T PLAY THIS AS MUCH AS YOU CHILL OUT

bait status: taken
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>>122383248
>Blizzard balancing their game around its top players is a bad thing

LOL
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>>122383581
you can't get stunned out of ancestral healing unless you get stunned literally as you press the button, I've gotten stunned so many times casting ancestral and it still goes through
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>>122383889
Yeah I know he has the least utility and that's his problem, because if you don't spec for healing he's not as good a healer as the other guys.

If he had a talent where he would passively heal others around him when in wolf form, or the totem could grant shields to people inside of it's range I think he would be really good.
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>>122383869
>To think this time tomorrow he won't be banned from HotS. Blizzard seems to think this kind of behavious is perfectly acceptable.
It is perfectly acceptable.
Just because you're an autist it doesn't mean everyone has to adjust to your autistic standards
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>>122384380
And I've also got stunned when I press it. Just like I've gotten stunned out of Sundering and any ult like that. Not to mention if it doesn't go off because the person dies or whatever it goes on a 10 sec cooldown.
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>>122383081
They are. Games being made/balanced with pseudo sport scene in mind is a tragedy.
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>>122383891
Drop on using certain abilities is definitely not a stretch. TF2 solved invisibility, invulnerability, and extreme mobility weapons like that. Otherwise it's really just how the maps are laid out. Don't have easy escape routes that cannot be intercepted. Tracer is squishy enough for that to work. So to me that definitely says "no neutral flags" or anything along these lines.

Capping solo should of course always possible, but it should be a group effort in general. Having a team balance between grouping up, flanking, defending, attacking, and escorting will always be more important than one really fast character.

>>122384225
It is for first-person shooters, especially if they're castrated related to things DM like OW is. This means more tuning of numbers than actually improving the games as a whole. I don't give a fuck about a cooldown reduction of 0.5 seconds as much as a new high risk/high reward route to the objective that's too campy, or just having a better flow of players to different vantage points or around uphill-sections.
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>>122383081
>e-Sports are good
Ben Brode pls go
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>>122383869
But he is right. It's just numbers. If anything you should be banned for being a lame ass toxic player.
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>>122384660
If he listened to his e-sports players we'd get more patches. Every pro says the game needs more buffs and nerfs.
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>>122384512
It's your fault if the only enjoyment you get out of a game is winning. I understand the sweaty tryhard mentality, but giving a shit about in-game ranks (past MMR) is the most autistic thing ever.
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>>122384728

This game doesn't need more patches, we just need the patches to be worth a damn.
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>>122384802
They said the problem with Secret Paladin isn't the card, it's that nobody is trying to counter it. I don't think any patch they give us will matter after hearing that.
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>>122384801
I think caring about MMR on some third party website that isn't even accurate is a lot more autistic than a rank supported by the game developers.
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>>122384512

Every single one of my losses was from people picking like retards and getting stomped against a functional teamcomp (yeah let's just pick artanis when we need an actual tank) or going "gg we lose" because we lost a first shrine mortar punisher against a better early game comp and then shouting at everyone else afterwards. Not a single one of them felt like it was a game we had any shot at winning. What good is that? you're probably just being an awkward sack of shit because it's me you're typing at, honestly. I don't blame you, you have a live audience to exercise fruitless point-scoring with.

>>122384801

yeah let's just have great fun in a game you're getting fucking destroyed in because one of your teammates is worse than beginner AI

another fantastic post by 4chan 2015
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>>122383770
I'm surprised no one has drawn her in a cute one piece.
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>People still bitching about Kills and Assists.

Why are retards latching to this?
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>>122385086
I think someone did a many threads back.
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>>122384978
MMR as a static number isn't what I meant. Just "good matches" in general, even if there's an odd player out from time to time.

>>122385043
What I'm saying is that I don't give a fuck if someone is goofing off in ranked. The game is the same, QM or not. The only difference is drafting and a meaningless number. Play a game, have fun. Getting matched with abyssal players when you're great isn't okay, but someone trying out a new hero and sucking doesn't bother me any more in HL than it does in QM.
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>>122383538
"e-sports" is just fucking marketing, alternate advertising. has little to do with the design or funding of any game development.

>>122383450
ranked for fun, preset matches for training

many teams, especially in smaller games, don't realize it's far more efficient to schedule scrimmages rather then rely on shitty queues giving them inferior opponents half the time. unfortunately many games don't support it or have some shitty queue-only grind that dissuades people from doing it.

>>122384553
the game is going to be balanced anyway by people complaining their favorite character gazlowe is a pile of shit. people being competitive isn't pseudo-sport it's natural.
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>>122385347
>I don't care about something so nobody else should.
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>>122385450
I see no reason to care. Why does it bother you in HL but wouldn't in QM? You're playing the same game, it takes the same time, and the impact of a loss or a win is as meaningless.
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>tfw gonna play chogall with teamchat disabled
feels good man
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>>122385449

>the game is going to be balanced anyway by people complaining their favorite character gazlowe is a pile of shit.

Are you trying to say Gazlowe isn't shit and doesn't need to be fixed?
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>by far the funniest character
>by far the worst assassin
What is Blizzard thinking?

Are kids these days really faggots who prefer Jaina and Kael over Tychus?
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>>122385347

It's inconsiderate, it's not just me that's getting fucked over but three other people as well, none of which have immediately done anything wrong to deserve it.

A few of the heroes I own I'm really dodgy with, why would I play them in ranked if I know I'm going to make mistakes and cost people the game? QM is there for a reason, it's more of a who-gives-a-fuck environment because the matchmaking there is so poor

>>122385630

Be honest, you don't even play this game and you're just here to bait. Live audience etc etc.
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>>122385717
good gazzlow player can 1v1 any hero combo
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>>122385630
Alright this is just bait.
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>>122385840
>>122385765
No, I'm being genuine. If I were baiting I'd just

>being insecure about your skill you need a number to reinforce your ego so you can have "fun"

Or some shit and be done with it, but I'm really interested in why you care about one mode versus the other. It's not even like in CSGO where there's no team collision/friendly fire and double the players in the unranked mode. It's just the draft.

Would your opinion change if there was an unranked draft mode? In addition and as a replacement for QM, just out of curiosity. Would a QM rank change anything?

I'm saying all this without any hostility.
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>>122385086
Well there's this. But I demand more.
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>>122383869

You know, I don't know how long it's going to take you to realize that bitching and moaning and blogging on /hotsg/ only goes to stunt your ability to get better at the game.

Shut the fuck up and go next, if that match really bothered you then take a break. You gain nothing from being such a fucking baby bitchboy.
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How would you guys like if they reworked Rehgar not to be support but a specialist that effected the battlefield.

Make his trait the ability to chose a totem that has one of the three effects. Either a massive slow, a shield giving totem or an aoe attack totem.

Q is Wolf Form with Feral Lunge. Give it a short cooldown like it has now.

W is a wind attack that pushes everyone in it's path out of position or a certain way.

E is an Totem that gathers energy and then explodes in an AOE.

Ults being Blood Lust and Fire Elemental.

Don't know if it would be better but would be more interesting.
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>>122385748
He used to be the best in the game, but that's what happens when you get nerfed every patch since you've been released.

Now Sizzling Attack doesn't even work with Odin according to people on the PTR.
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>>122386394
sounds like it'd be ___fun
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>>122386394
NO, don't ruin the best support in the game
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>>122386698
But I'm not changing Malf, Khaz, or Uther.
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>>122386074

Because I really have nothing better to do right now, I'll try explaining this another way.

First off, I don't give a toss about MMR. I have no reason to at my level. Maybe if I was one of those players going for the top 100, yes but me, no.

Each time you lose in HL, you drop a number of ranked points. Each time this happens you're further away from rank 1. Now rank 1 is hardly an elite club for very good players, but the amount of times you get someone absolutely awful who completely ruins the experience is less common.

It's seriously no fun when you're three levels behind and have no chance to do anything because someone stubbornly lastpicked Illidan when it makes no sense, then he takes Hunt and proceeds to die 12 times in 17 minutes. You can't fight or do anything, really.

Or when their Murky is octograbbing you and your Uther decided to take Wave of Light, along with Boundless Conviction, Divine Storm and Gathering Radiance. Each time this happens, you have to endure more of the same nonsense before you get to the point where the dead weight isn't quite as benign.

>>122386242

> if that match really bothered you then take a break
That's what I've been having to do now, but more and more often because I can't just play on tilt now can I?
>only goes to stunt your ability to get better at the game
Well it's happening regardless because I don't get to play as much now all this nonsense keeps kicking in.

At least I'm not Anthony Burch.
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I haven't played this game in months. Why is Gazlowe bad now?
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>>122386394
>tfw no windfury totem that increases your allies' attack speed
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>>122387168
Has there ever been a time when Gazlowe was good?
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>>122387168
>now
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>>122387237
Was debating that, but seems over powered. It would probably have to be an ult. Which is kind of what Bloodlust does right?
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>>122386663
>how locust Abathurs think their build works.jpg
>>122387380
>Which is kind of what Bloodlust does right?
but then you could give Bloodlust to Cho'gall and make him an Ogre-Magi instead of a meme. Literally no downside
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>>122387501
If I was going to change an Ult I would change it for something like Lightning Storm.
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>>122387020
But isn't that MMR rather than in-game rank? Of course both correlate, but there are bronzies and drunks at rank 1 too.

I understand wanting to go higher up so matches aren't getting thrown every other round, but that again is the same in QM. "I don't care" doesn't mean I don't care whether I lose or win, it's just a really unimportant number. I'll take good matches over visible ranks any day. I cannot see how QM is any less important than HL, other than drafting being a part of it.

Unless they start another smaller league bracket after rank 1 where there will be no shitters and only highly competitive play I don't get it. Good matches, of course, but if someone shits the bed it doesn't matter in which game mode. Again it's pretty much the same game, no difference other than what heroes the teams are made of.

>mfw I'm not Anthony Burch either
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>>122385717
people feel entitled to a fair game regardless of "e-sport" being attached to the game. that's the limit because that's what the game lives off, the average player and his handful of favorites. if they think gazlowe is terrible then he is.
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>>122385840
How is that bait lmao

You need to be some sort of special forever alone loser with superiority complex to care about mmr and fucking useless shit like that in a game
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>gaz, nova, chen and li li on my team
thanks, blizzard
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>>122389520
This is also bait.
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>>122389520
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>tfw a friend I play HotS with can make the Gaz work
>win every time we play together

Gazlowe ain't bad.
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>>122387020
>It's seriously no fun when you're three levels behind and have no chance to do anything because someone stubbornly lastpicked Illidan when it makes no sense, then he takes Hunt and proceeds to die 12 times in 17 minutes. You can't fight or do anything, really.

Yeah, I mean, how dare someone want to last pick Illidan, right? They have to pick whatever hero, you, the specialist in MOBAs, decides. Fuck off.
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>>122390808
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How do you feel about this game's difficulty rankings for the characters?
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>getting morales to 5
>sky temple
>no melee assassin
>'this sounds like a good time to take medivac'
>absolutely nobody goes in
>they actually walk all the way to where i'm flying right next to them

I think there was only like 1/2 games where people knew how this ability worked.
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>>122391357

both of morales' heroics are almost useless in QM
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why is Artanis so shit
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Cho'Gall Spotlight when?
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>>122391701

he's a warrior with no cc, escape or gap closer, only gaining the latter at 16 when most of the time the game is already decided at that stage

that and most people have no clue how to use him, same for tyrael and arthas players
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>>122391159
nearly all of them are pretty accurate
>>122390282
he can work with zeratul but honestly what he can do, other specialist can do better
he's absolutely shit without the zeratul combo though
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>>122391948
What's difficult about playing Arthas though? You're a wall of beef that has an AOE active at all times (in team fights or in shrines) and can disable structures, it's not like that's hard to understand.
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>>122392697
Gaz can wreak havoc with Nazeebo.
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KT nerfs when?
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>>122393772
If anything he'll be getting buffed next patch.

So maybe after that. What do you want changed?
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>>122393829
that stupid ass phoenix, now i have no idea what i would change about it because i dont know how to balance this meme game
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>>122391159
Pretty accurate for new players.
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Powerful Necromancer when?
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>>122393772
>nerfing characters that aren't even in yet
???
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>>122393983
KT WHEN?
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If blizzard removed Falstad from the game, how long would it take for people to notice
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>>122393957
The phoenix isn't all that good damage wse. It's only good for zoning because people are scared of it. For what it does, the cooldown might be a bit too low. Or are you saying that because you'd want the pyroblast to be a better option to pick?
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>>122391159
i'd change roughly a quarter of them. their idea of difficulty seems to be "different" and not actually challenging and there is too much "medium."
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>122394240
Within 5 minutes there would be forums posts about it.
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>>122394240
>tfw Red Shirt Guy BTFOing Metzen and Afrasiabi will always be Falstad's only claim to relevance in my mind
Kurdran and Sky'ree when?
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>>122394240

about 2 seconds

meanwhile if they removed Nova it would benefit the game
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>>122391159
they are a joke, all heroes can be played like shit easily even the memest ones
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>>122391159
A lot of then seem off
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So i watched the hots cinematic trailer and double checked nova's abilities since i main her but nope.. no nuke heroic, what the fuck?
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who is your go to I'm fucking winning this game hero?

mine's Zag
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>>122395560
Sonya
used to be Murky and Nazeebo until Blizzard kept giving me teams that were uncarryable by specialists
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>>122395560
Well no shit, is like if you need supp you go lili or uther and if you go tank with mura
>>122395719
Another retard who go with op shit
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>>122395560
Butcher
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>>122395560
Jaina. Been playing her since I started this game and knew nothing so I'm just really used to her

Problem is I never want to play her unless I just want to go serious mode. It's just not a fun hero just a very good one.
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Reminder to take a break every now and Chen.
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>>122395774
>not picking strong heroes when you want to win
????????????????????
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>>122395992
Do you 5stack?
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>>122396131
You runty cunt.
I giggled
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>>122396131
I have literally never lost a single game with Chen. Also I never get stressed with Chen. He is the ultimate comfy hero and my friend
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>>122396391
Thisigia pls
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>>122395560
chen
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>>122375278
>not out positioning as murky and coming from a surprising angle then octograbing

Mud
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>>122396780
I'm not even US
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>>122391948
His switch thing is a form of crowd control. Anyone over extended can be destroyed by it.

It's just not a great move.
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>>122396353
Nah, 2stack at most, I just get really lucky with him for some reason.
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>>122397319
I'm not falling for your lies
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>>122395774

wait Sona is OP now ?
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if i am shit at QMs doe matchmaking give me easer QMs?
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>>122397923
Not OP. Just really really good. One of the best characters.
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>>122397923
Check her W+AA "bug"
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>>122397949
QM and HL mmr is separate, so yes.
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>>122391636
>Medivac for clutch objective taking
>Everyone just ignores medivac and runs at objective taking at least twice longer
>Stimpack a hero
>He just runs away and leaves the battle

Morales is pretty strong when coordinated but she's beyond fucking trash in pubs.
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>>122398086
>>122398106

what changed ? Last time I played she was considered one of the shittiest hero.

Is she finally assassin and not tank ?
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>tfw 600 second queue
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>>122398564
>other team has morales
>jump in and kill her
>win
ez
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>>122398663
She's even tankier and does even more damage than before. They fixed a bug meaning you can aa right after slams and a bunch of other shit.

With Wrath she becomes an unstoppable killing machine.
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>>122398663
they buffed her health and fixed her abilities cancelling her auto attacks same as raynor
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>>122398706
At least you get to play with a cute tyrande
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>>122398706
Always a laugh
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>>122398706

dead game ?
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>>122397923
perhaps modestly but she flows up as you increase player ranks. she's a bit more player dependent like tyrande or nova, not like leoric used to be the king of everything.

>>122397949
yes. you get a secret rank.
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>>122377760
Its not that we know the game is lost, but seeing how your team plays in comparison to the enemy's team. You can generally tell who is the better team unless it is really close. If you see someone say gg within the first 5 minutes it means you suck and theyve noticed.
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>>122398706
Why do you morons wait 600 seconds? If a game is not found within 30 seconds of estimated time restart que. I've never had over 200 seconds of que with this method.
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>>122399613
personally I alt tab after queueing and just let it pop me back when a match is found
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>>122398946
Nah, I don't get them too often. It's just a laugh whenever I do.

>>122399613
I don't even hate 600s queues. They're nice breather games where I can dick around and still win.
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>Sona dives alone into enemy team
>dies instantly
>WHY U NO HEAL NOOB
>tfw trying to level Medic for free gold
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>>122401119
>playing lt. free loss in quickememes
>not afk'ing in vs ai
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>>122401119
>not afk training that useless cunt
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>>122401218
>not afk'ing in vs ai

tell me your secret
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>>122383056

There needs to be more Li Li porn.
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>>122401338
>go into vs. ai with beginner difficulty
>tell her to run into the enemy base and die like a bitch
>occasionally tab back in and tell her to redo it
>rinse and repeat once the match is over
i'm sure there's a way to automate it as well
if you can convince someone to join in and add you as a friend things will be done even faster too
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>>122401481
Agreed.
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>>122401338
You can't really afk in AI without abathur. Just pick her in training mode and afk. There's no afk detection in training.
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>>122401483
>leaving your base ever
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>>122401483

wont the AI always lose giving me shit xp ?

gonna try that, lt is hell in QM desu
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>>122401685
how do you do it then, hook man
i'm always open for suggestions
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>>122401817
>pick training
>hit play
>alt tab

It's just that easy.
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>>122401898
even easier than what i wrote up, then
i'll just do that the next time i need to level a hero to level 5
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>>122401817
>go to training with hero you need to lvl
>choose the first talent when game starts
>alt tab
>check back in 25 min
>collect your free xp


what dont you understand about the pic
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>>122401979

how your your AI could 4v5
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>>122402125
what
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>>122401685

>literally getting carried by AI 9
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>>122402125
you dont care about win or loss you want the game to be long it's only xp you get the win or loss doesnt matter
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Is there anything I can do to further lower the game's quality?
I went in the settings and lowered TerrainTexturesize to 16, but for some reason, higher-quality textures still pop in. Can I somehow make everything look low quality?
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>win 6 games in a row
>7th game get put with 1 semi retard
>alright, not too bad, I can carry this guy
>won 7 games in a row now
>get put with 1 giant retard feeder and a couple pussy assassins that are afraid to attack or just have 0 map awareness
>finally lose
>oh well at least I got my play 8 games gold 800 gold
alright, you got me blizzard, you don't want me to win too much, I get it
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>>122405376
Anon. You are feeder.
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