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Don't forget to cuddle a Worgen today, /wowg/! :3c
I didn't expect anything and I'm still disappointed by the Shaman reveal
Getting pretty jelly reading all the cool shit other classes get
Except mages lol
>>121984875
I still don't understand why everyone thinks Blizzard hates shamans.
Resto is always top tier, enhancement currently is the most fluid melee in the game (Thanks EotE) and one of the most powerful.
I mean unless we're talking about elemental, I don't understand.
>people playing shaman instead of warlock and mage.
>>121985190
i don't understand the enhancement changes
they talked about them being battlemages and using devastating spells but they have 0 spells left. everything is a melee attack now. no shocks, no lightning bolt, no chain lightning. how is the current kit any more 'battle mage' than a normal warrior using fiery/windy weapons?
>>121983992
He was literally the first quest giver when you hit Shattrath during BC. Then you had to do that fucking horrible quest following his voidspawn around.
>tfw when Warlock
So good so far. Sorry to any Shaman's in here but we all knew it was gonna happen.
Share pokemon teams homes
Just beat some fucker with the happy sunflower, took like 30 turns
>>121985423
>they have 0 spells left. everything is a melee attack now.
Rockbiter
10 yd range, Instant
Assault your target with earthen power, dealing moderate Nature damage, and generating 15 Maelstrom.
Flametongue
10 yd range, Instant, 12 sec cooldown
Scorch your target with fiery power, dealing moderate Fire damage, and enhancing your weapons.
Each of your weapon attacks cause up to minor additional Fire damage, based on weapon speed. Lasts 16 sec.
Sundering
60 Maelstrom, Instant, 20 sec cooldown
Shatter a line of earth before you, causing strong Physical damage and knocking enemies to the side
>>121985423
A battlemage to me has always been about enhancing their weapons and armour with magic to make their melee more powerful
>>121985567
>Earth shock renamed in order to not sound like a spell
>Unleash weapon
>Elder Titans ultimate
kek
>>121985423
Pretty sure that on twitter they said that enhancement still has lightning bolt. Maybe with some of these mystical talents you might even use it.
>>121985581
The idea of a battlemage is mixing both melee and magic which is exactly what Enhancement does now. I don't know why they're taking that away.
>>121985603
>10 yd range
>assault your target with earthen power
>scorch your target with fiery power
>not spells
I like the shaman changes
>>121985648
...they're not?
>>121985684
They removed the specs iconic shock spells and replaced them with functionally identica slightly-more-than-melee attacks named after antiquated weapon imbues
>>121985390
>Enhancement
>>121985734
>no more shocks
>no more lightning bolt
>no more chain lightning
Half the appeal of Enhance is reusing these spells in a practical manner in melee. It's what makes you feel like a melee/caster hybrid. Now we've got rage and warrior attacks.
I'm certain there was a way to make the basic Enhance Shaman rotation feel tighter and more satisfying without turning them from the unique-last-cooldown-based-dps-battlemage spec into BadFury
Just started assassination classroom
Was the school raising assassins before the teacher showed up or did class E get turned into assassins?
They got sent to class E because they were the worst assassins right?
I'm so confused.
>>121985810
https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/664255783165521921
https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/664252811505307648
>>121985919
>Lightning Bolt reduced to Throw Weapon
>Spell based AoE from Flame Shock and Fire Nova replaced with more melee based Warrior bullshit further making Enhance feel like another boring, homogenized melee Rage user instead of a melee caster
t-thanks blizz
Well after seeing the ele changes it looks like its time to dust off the DK.
>>121986103
>make minor changes to the totem system which should have been done expansions ago instead of completely remaking it with something interesting and fresh
>replace Lightning Shield stacks with magerage
>call it a day
sasuga blizzkun
>>121986170
>replace clunky shock mechanics with something that doesnt feel like ass to use
>why u do this blizz ;(
same
>>121985190
hopefully they fix balance druid and make it fun again.
>>121986287
they didn't replace anything. maelstrom is literally the exact same thing as lightning shield charges, it just goes up to 100 now and you can spend it on flame shock and healing surge instead of using mana. elemental is functionally identical to how it is now only multistrike is your mastery again instead of a stat and your rock daggers are gone (further hurting elementals poor mobile DPS)
they've done nothing to address any of the core concerns with the spec. the shaman remake was extremely lazy.
>>121985895
>or did class E get turned into assassins?
This is what happened. It seems stupid, but the teacher is godlike powerful and these were his demands.
What are you expecting for warriors?
Arms better get some more fucking attacks and colossus smash REMOVED
>>121986443
it's not the same thing at all lol
no more shitty target switching problems or sitting on fulmination
>>121986543
>arms becomes literally right click the class
>>121985278
shaman community seems to be one of the few that is entitled and retarded at the same time
>>121985190
why?
are you disappointed because of the coolnessin that case go play frost mageor because it looks weak or it doesn't address some of their problems?
please remember that most talents in leejun aren't going to be 3min cds, and yes rotational spells
>>121985423
Battle mages shall never be able to use really devastating spells, if not they run into the risk of being normal mage plus melee factor without enough differences. and enhancement is good at following it's name, the point of the spec is not to cast spells but to enhance themselves/weapons to deal damage
>>121986551
they've done almost nothing to help with target switching, you still need to flame shock before you can lava burst wasting time. all that has changed is that it's easier to multi-dot.
>>121986543
Colossus Smash IS Arms.
>>121986598
>20 stack earth shock something
>need to switch targets
>flame shock on cd
this is no longer an issue!
>>121986619
It's basically the lamest core skill in the game. Arms has objectively gotten worse n worse to play since that abortion was implemented.
>>121986684
>earthshock something
>switch targets and cast flameshock
>need to refresh it after 2 lavabursts
sounds like fun
>>121986170
hellodory
>>121986736
not really sure what the problem is here, sounds way better than it is currently
>>121985735
that's because they're pushing spec identity too and Shocks are for the real casters, it seems that you get different versions of them
>>121985810
looks like shocks are pretty much the same thing with other names
>>121985982
and with this i can be sure that you're just crying, off yourself
>>121986736
Which is exactly what they're going for - abilities not being used just because they're off cd
The worst part about new Enh is going to be spamming Rockbiter every GCD since it has no cooldown. I'm going to break which ever key I bind it to.
>>121987051
yea man youre REALLY gonna be spamming your weakest ability every gcd, especially before we even know how many abilities you'll actually have to use!
What about the shaman class attracts little bitches? They're always pretty tough characters in Blizzard rts games and their lore heroes are nice too, is that it?
>>121987116
The core rotation is going to be mashing Rockbiter for maelstrom, maintaining the Flametongue buff, using Stormstrike whenever it's available and spending excess Maelstrom with Lava lash while still ensuring that you pool enough for a double Stormstrike proc.
Very similar to how Combat Rogue and Fury Warrior rotations have been historically.
I'm not super upset about the Enhancement preview, I'll hold my judgement until we see all the skills and talents. If they actually deliver with making totems not awful and give us some decent utility it should be an ok spec.
>>121987165
the only people still playing shaman after all these years are masochists with a victim complex. they can't do anything but whine
>Warcraft movie is supossed to be based on WC 1
>Durotans "good" orcs are uniting with the humans to fight the bad orcs
IS THAT THE NEW CANON?
>>121987165
only hybrid class that doesn't have tanking
>>121987376
brown orcs gets me everytime
>that doomed feeling
>>121986170
The way I see it is we lost damage. We lose molten earth and only gain multistrike back if we take the talent, lose fulmination for a system that does the exact same thing only its shared between all the shocks and kept the Flame Shock needs to be on the target for LvB to do anything. So unless they're giving us a 10% to 15% damage boost on most of our spells we'll be worse off than before.
>>121987480
number tuning is during beta, right now they want to know if the changes they're doing are good thematically and stuff
So when is Blizzard gonna cave and do a f2p revival? I assume the sub numbers are gonna spike when Legion comes out then slowly trickle down within then month...
My guess is the time between the end of Legion and the next xpac, or WoW 2.0
>>121987628
hopefully never
>>121987376
Orcs are officially dindus
>>121987628
It's already f2p m8
>tfw top 15 rank on mystic socrethar for my class
wew
They need to change Stormstrike to do nature damage instead of physical. As it stands on their blog it doesn't scale with stats but Lava Lash does, so they'll either have to buff it every patch like they do now or the rotation will get all out of whack at high gear levels towards the end of an expansion.
>>121987840
Isn't the physical damage based on weapon damage?
homosexual worgen represent
>>121987886
So is Lava Lash but in addition to that it scales with mastery. Maybe Stormstrike will just have a fucking ridiculous modifier.
Why are healers so OP in low level pvp? They've been better than all dps for years
>>121987797
how are you playing for free
>>121987990
tokens my nigger
>>121987990
>he doesn't buy tokens off the AH
Good goy
>>121987376
Well to be fair he was always canonically opposed to Sargeras right? AFAIK he was hiding in AV during the first war. Changing that to helping Lothar out isn't that much of a stretch imo.
>>121988004
>>121988027
so then your subscription isnt free then
ggwp
What's the quickest way to grind tanaan rep that isn't medallions?
>>121987840
>it doesn't scale with stats
?
of course it does
>>121987886
phys damage is affected by armor, in melee classes everything is affected by weapon damage
>>121987987
Because they can heal themselves and the other classes don't have enough abilities to even that huge advantage out.
>>121988076
>doesn't cost money
>not free
>>121988134
time is money friend
>>121987821
/wowg/ is the best players out of all wow sub-communities
>>121988134
but your sub does cost money :)
just not yours :^)
so its not f2p if your sub is being payed for
:DDDDDDD
>>121988134
>just because it doesnt cost shitty green paper it means its free!
>giving blizz more money for a worse product
the token was designed for retards like u desu senpai
>>121988027
>time investment for 60000g is worth less to him than an hour of work
Yfw you realise tokens are twice as expensive as a sub so the Jews are actually winning.
>>121988168
>do 3 hours of sales for 100k
>have 3 months of gametime for 3 hours of my time doing something i would do anyway
>>121987451
ass to mouth deus
>>121988274
>He's EUROPE!
HAHA
>>121988294
I was joking brah, just something the gobbies say y'know?
>>121988274
>>121988274
34k for OCE/US. Which is paid for by shit I do normally anyway.
are all /wowg/ players actually goblins irl
>>121988294
>go to work
>come home and play video games
Have all the game time I could want for 0 extra time doing just things I do anyway.
>Was excited for my class changes
>Warlocks and Pallys are bretty gud
>Might actually want to try out DK now
>Anxiously awaiting Druid changes
fug, why do they have to go last, I just want to have fun playing Boomkin again
>>121988304
Thanks guildie
>>121988396
Rogues are last. Druids are in the next batch iirc.
Really interested in what they do with Rogue honestly. I'll be choosing between rogue and DK.
So when is the warrior blog coming out?
>>121988370
>having a job
?
>>121988459
I meant they're the last ones today meaning I won't know the changes until when I go into work tonight.
Servers kill?
>>121988498
1 hour from now
>>121988348
nah, some are monkeys like you lmao
>>121988498
soon
Are there any chat addons that retain chat through reloads and shit?
>>121988348
No I'm handsome and poor
>>121988348
No I'm like an antijew
Did they remove guaranteed crit from LvB?
Aside from 'everything', what was your biggest disappointment from WoD?
>>121988985
Not our characters having hot Orc sex with Thrall
>>121988985
No 60 man raiding
>>121988985
The premise making no fucking sense or Teron being turned into a hungry hungry hippo instead of an alpha as fuck death knight who used deathwing as his mount.
>there are people in this thread who aren't 725+
>>121989328
>there are people in this thread that are still subbed
>>121989328
>tfw stuck at below 720 because guild took a month to get started on mystic after hc archi and is still struggling
>>121988985
How lame garrisons were. Literally just a place where your professions and content were done while you're offline by NPCs.
There was one daily at 100 at launch and 50-odd for followers. What were they thinking.
>>121989328
>725+
>not 735+
LMAO
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/magtheridon/Aughyssul/simple
fucking scrub
>>121989328
>playing wow at all
>in wowg
absolutely disgusting tbqhfam
>Hated vile and disgusting Fel magic just like everyone should
>Made sure Sylvanas didnt turn into Arthas 2.0
>Chose only the most capable warriors to defend Orgrimmar and put the weaker in the back of the city where they would be safe
>Didn't play buddy-buddy with the alliance. Instead he actually had the balls to try to initiate war between the alliance and horde
Garrosh did literally nothing wrong
Why did we kill this glorious leader
>>121988985
Max level content outside of raiding, reputations at launch and Garrisons after you were done collecting the inicial batch of followers.
Garrison is definitely the worst part, since it's going to make any attempts to make in-game housing memed on.
>>121989589
he turned into hitler
>>121989589
He was born a dindu. If he was a human he'd be based.
>>121989589
Because wow players are pussified liberals. Mutiny & betrayal is a-okay if your target is a right wing race realist.
>>121988657
was this banter?
>mfw i realize the new transmog system is going to kill the whole transmog market
I can't fucking wait for the buttmad
>>121989589
Garry dindu nothing!
>>121989773
ye
but it's k, fellow banana eater :^)
>>121989589
Because they needed a quick villain to tie into WoD and Garrosh was an easy target.
>180'd from a brash, strongheaded leader into literal hitler so fast that he got whiplash
>Hated his father for corrupting his entire race in a selfish pursuit of power
>Hey this Sha stuff is pretty neat, maybe I should corrupt my entire race in a selfish pursuit of power????
>lol I killed a child dad would be so proud of the hellscream name!!!!
>>121989848
I really doubt many people care about ultra low res vanilla models. Just autismals making hardcore slutmogs
>wanting to play a demonhunter
>a meme class
>>121988985
Garrisons and Tanaan Jungle. I loved the Farm in MoP because it wasn't forced on you and was just a small place you'd visit for atmost a few minutes a day. Timeless Isle was fun because it wasn't tedious and boring as fuck with all the rares and such you can do. Garrisons and Tanaan Jungle are shit versions of both of those.
>>121988985
No Iron Star based mount.
Actually, the mounts available in WoD were pretty weak generally. Only a couple of really good ones, the rest being endless recolors or store mounts.
>>121989943
There are still people who buy stuff like exodar life staff for 50k or so
>>121989904
Who did he kill?
>>121990009
That's pretty cool to be honest family.
I think it would look better without the train plough thing on it though
>>121989948
In before someone post webms of "hero class" v2 wall hack edition
>Affliction Warlock artifact shows that artifacts will have several casted abilities, passives and procs to add to your rotation
>All PvP talents are being moved to the new honor system so the PvE tree is going to be filled with hundreds of new talents purely for PvE, with tons of spec specific options to make each spec feel unique
>Blizzard show off the previews
>M-M-MUH CLASS IS DEAD THEY ONLY HAVE 5 ABILITIES LITERAL FACEROLL BRAINDEAD ROTATION GOD I'M SO FUCKING RETARDED WHAT IS READING HOW DO I FUNCTION AS A PERSON DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
I don't know how they keep managing to surprise me with just how retarded they can get, I should expect this from the people that play WoW by this point.
>>121989904
Actually, it was because Metzen wanted Garrosh to be the evil counterpart to Thrall's "good" orc. Seriously, look it up. Some of the writers wanted to make Garrosh into a "harsh but fair" sorta warchief, like Doomhammer 2.0. Hence him throwing that guy off the mountain in Stonetalon. Then Metzen came in and sperged out until they started writing Garrosh as a villain for Thrall to beat. That's why his characterisation is all over the place in Cata.
who /nervous/ here?
>>121990064
He boasted about 'killing' Anduin in 1 of the 5.1 quests and how his father would be proud of him.
You know, the guy HE FUCKING HATED.
>>121989589
>Hated vile and disgusting Fel magic just like everyone should
He took the Old Gods' cock like a lil bitch tough
>>121990009
But that's a star wars ep3 vehicle..
Should I get into pokemon? Never interested me for one bit, did one battle and thought it was lame.
Does it get interesting later on? I feel like I'm missing out on easy achievement points but it also feels like time wasted desu.
>>121989848
But what about the tabard market?
>>121990338
All I care is that they leave prot intact, maybe some more heals/better shields or sumthing.
>>121990434
Monowheels are actual vehicles.
>prepatch for LoL just came out
>overview for warr in 5 minutes
>skipped school
Great day.
>>121990538
Dead like everything else even the shirt market no one gonna buy your thugs shirt now bitchboy
>>121990732
>legion doesn't come out for 8+ entire months
>tmog is now dead
Retard. Its good money and will be for a while.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19956928/legion-class-preview-series-warrior-11-11-2015
It's out lads
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19956928/legion-class-preview-series-warrior-11-11-2015
I like how it starts out saying that it doesn't actually say enough for people judge anything.
>more X ability causes Y% more damage for the next Z seconds
>can't decide if I should switch to stormrage since my horde server is dead
>if I switch to alliance I'm going to lose all my QT fem blood elf aesthetics
>but if I do switch it's more alive
>tmog
Rofl u guys
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FUCKING RAGE GENERATING BUTTON
ARMS DOES NOT HAVE ONE
HOW THE FUCK DO THEY NOT GET ONE
THE FUCKING RETARDS
>>121988985
Garrisons replacing 90% of non-raid content
>>121991135
It's your auto attacks you fuckin jew
>>121991135
>As before, Arms Warrior Rage generation comes from auto-attacks.
R E K T
E
K
T
>>121991186
>>121991194
WHICH IS A FUCKING SHIT SPEC WAY TO GENERATE RAGE
IMAGINE IF LITERALLY ANY OTHER SPEC GENERATED POWER THROUGH AUTO ATTACKS
IT WOULD BE FUCKING SHIT JUST LIKE THIS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>warrior changes
It's fucking nothing
I like that they didn't fuck up arms.
Fuckers didn't read Overpower is back? Arms is gonna be hella fun even without rage button.
>>121991264
Wow i expected much much worse from Warriors prot looks pretty good to be Ignore Pain sounds better then Shield Barrier and finally our Rage comes from Taking damage pretty good id rate it rank 2 from the tank changes right after paladin
What's the fastest scouting missive to complete? I need to trigger some invasions.
>protection warrior
Shield barrier removed. Fucking yay. Ignore Pain doesn't sound all that interesting but it's a good way to negate the big attacks if you feel they're coming and could be OP if we can reach big health numbers again.
>>121991342
>so there is a warrior which uses a shield
>lets ignore the shield, because they'll just soak in damage lol
>>121991413
Everbloom is pretty fuggin quick given nobody else is there
>>121990725
18+
>>121991463
A tough warrior Ignoring some of his Pain is more realistic then him putting up his shield and it just absorbs a huge fireball or whatever. Shield Barrier was just dumb and awful
Fury and prot changes pretty good.
Overpower back so with talents arms might be fun again.
8/10lol sorry arms enjoy smash
>>121990265
I remember a panel where Metzen had no fucking clue about the stonetalon quest line. He just dismissed it as quest devs taking liberties with their creative freedoms.
F u c k M e t z e n
>>121991592
your face is dumb and awful
>>121991701I will
>>121991264
Enhancement generates Maelstrom through auto attacks.
>Maelstrom Weapon
>Passive
>When you deal damage with a melee weapon, you generate 5 Maelstrom.
I'm disappointed on Unholy. They even said that UH "continues to be the spec with the most active use of diseases" yet we are going to have only 1 DoT. I think more dots less pets would be better aproach.
>>121991056
After seeing a few of these and the reactions, they probably should have just posted the specs entire spellbook.
>>121991823
>wahhhh why can't i be a warlock
fuck off
How do i become a niggerlord?
>>121991823
I prefer one of the diseases being the festering wound/scourge strike thing to just being another dot.
>>121989848
Or it could revitalize the market now that it's a tab with a progress bar. And what if Blizzard achievements related to the collection, aw lawd.
>>121991823
the diseases are there, they just aren't dots
>>121992228
collect everything under the slutmog tab, earn the title "the whore"
collect 90% of transmog, earn the title "the autistic"
>>121991264
cry more baby bitch arms is fine
>>121991701
Glad stance wasn't mentioned at all. i hope we keep it. it nice to dps or solo too.
>monks next
get excited niggers
>>121989848
As someone who sells transmog, I doubt it will make much difference. Most people are only buying one copy of any particular item anyway.
Hopefully professions will be making a comeback in Legion anyway.
>>121992558
oh shit youre right its just gimped classes and babymode one button classes left now, i can finally leave my house
>>121992541
I hope it's actually viable too
>tfw no prot pally dps talent
>Colossus smash is now literally what arms is all about
Mfw I was the guy who wanted it gone
>>121991701
Fury's relatively unchanged with a few more Berserker abilities thrown in which I think is great.
Arms looks like its gonna be slow as hell again, but I guess we'll have to see how much rage autoattacks generate.
Prot still looks solid and reliable, glad they're sticking with that theme.
All-in-all it looks good, but not as good as the DK reveal. Wouldn't reroll based on this alone, but Warriors already have a ton of cool abilities too. Really hoping Ravager stays and becomes a viable option.
>>121992558
Theyre going to butcher my main and im going to cry.
>>121992689
Yeah I'm not sure if I'm prepared. Monks are in a decent spot at the moment
>hype retards with blog posts
>scrap 90% by release
muh class fantasy
>>121992689
>>121992782
It'll be interesting, WW and MW haven't been mentioned at all til now. All they said is that Guard doesn't fit with Brew thematically. That combined with the fact that the Brew staff is the staff of the Monkey King, I have to assume they're shifting towards a more heavy focus on dodge.
>>121992782
Get ready for a swap with druids, they are going to be staggering meatshields and monks will have to go 100% avoidance
>Even more D3 talents and abilities
Holy shit when will it end.
>>121992793
>hype everyone up for legion
>1 month later
>no one cares anymore
>subs dropping like a rock
10 months of waiting is going to RIP wow till fall.
whats the cheapest way to get gametime nowadays?
>>121991558
College is usually 18+.
>>121992957
Where do you think the extra team members came from?
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19956928/legion-class-preview-series-warrior-11-11-2015
>>121992903
But I HAET dodge. I want my on demand bubbles because my healers are retarded.
if monks existed in vanilla, what dumb shit rpg mechanics or skills would they have had?
>brewmasters have to bring alcohol to raids
>they have to be completely smashed while they're fighting or they lose dodge % and stamina
>>121992957
Arms: 9/10 literally fixed it's problems
Fury: dunnolol
very interesting until
>increases damage taken by 30%
Prot: 9/10 ignore pain makes more sense than lel magics
>>121992689
pls don't if you're ww
>>121992903
as far as I remember WW has new mastery, TeB is getting renamed, TP and RSK buffs are going away and SEF is turning into a toggle
So it is confirmed that all worgen are actually dogs, inferior to the rest of intelligent races and anykind of sex with them is zoophilia.
>>121993070
DEATH
K
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>>121993079
>>121993047
lmao
>>121993073
Sounds like 31 talent in either spec, +% when completely smashed
They'd probably have to buy kegs or alcohol to fill the kegs
>>121991701
Don't worry, I will. Rather have arms be slow as fuck huge numbers than WW spam. I mean, why even go arms instead of fury if you aren't looking for slow huge numbers?
>>121992941
>Warrior tank during ICC
>Everyone just stacked stam because it just worked
>Watching my health bar grow with each piece of gear felt like throwing inches into my dick
I'm kinda hyped for Guardians, I really hope they spice up their gameplay.
>>121987821
>mystic
>>121993073
>not liking flavor mechanics and abilities
>new draenor perk will remove/reduce damage taken while enraged
>unmentioned passive reduces base damage taken
Or, you know, we can have no fury warriors in raids because they take insane amounts of damage.
>>121993236
Is something wrong fuccboi?
>Today I will find out if I bench Monk for Druid after all this time
>>121993047
Why does it always feel like warrior is the class that they care less about?
>>121993070
>my healers are retarded.
Go Blood. Not relying on healers is literally the whole design of that spec.
>Almost every preview so far has had D3/Hots or even fucking Hearthstone abilities
Alright lads, what's coming for the next class preview?
Lets get the easy one out of the way.
WW Monks will get Seven Sided Strike.
>>121993337
That's the point.
>>121993403
ww monks get super saiyan 3, and spirit bomb which requires party members to cast
>>121993119
garrison counter/trait names are memebased
>>121993073
WW and BrM can't equip weapons, making it completely unviable like most vanilla specs
>>121993337
taking increased damage is dumb, forces the spec to have better/more defensive cds or useless in fights where the raid getting constantly aoed like Gorefiend
http://strawpoll.me/5978669/ legion class vote
So DK is main now. I need two rude dudes for chain pulling/soloing old content raids and dungeons. I mean nonstop pulling everything till bosses. Something with movement speed and self healing preferably.
http://strawpoll.me/5978948
>>121993530
>twitch memes
kill yourself
>>121993484
>memebased
sure thing doggie
>>121993403
I'd be ok with it desu, it's ok to use cool skills from other games
>>121993403
>WW Monks will get Seven Sided Strike.
I actually thought this is what Hurricane Strike was gonna be in WoD and was pretty let down when it wasn't. I don't care if its lazy, I'd love 7SS.
Also, Brewmaster is gonna roll around on a giant keg like the monkey boss in Stormstout Brewery. Mistweaver's will be able to bring their Serpent Statue to life which flies around and buffs the targets of your renewing mists.
>>121993548
I doubt they will give guardian good passive self healing again, and definitely not active healing. They said they removed rejuv from cat form too. Changes are its going to be paladin or monk based on what they say today.
>>121993548
Just play a rogue you you can run around at 110%(actually faster then a mount)speed like a madman and clear raids in minutes.
>>121993710
>Also, Brewmaster is gonna roll around on a giant keg like the monkey boss in Stormstout Brewery. Mistweaver's will be able to bring their Serpent Statue to life which flies around and buffs the targets of your renewing mists.
So Chen and Lili abilities from HoTS then?
Mite b cool.
>>121993403
tempest rush or dashing strike
>>121993723
>Implying they arent getting rid of your burst of speed
>>121993785
Yup. I've actually never played HoTS in my life and just looked them up for that post.
I'm actually a little bummed that Brewmaster doesn't get a keg as their artifact weapon, and you just run around holding it or strap it to your back like we see Chen doing.
>>121993801
this is my one hope for legion, id buy 100 collectors editions if they did this
>>121993861
Probably a model issue just like tauren totems on players
>>121993801
If they do I'ma flip shit
I just got my rogue to 100 and its so damn good for running old raids
Nerf it in minigames if they have to, keep it everywhere else for fucks sake
>>121993861
I still think the brm artifacts are still really nice
>>121993871
>buying 100 copies of a game that isn't fallout 4
pretty bad move there, my gaming comrade
I have been keeping up with the Warcraft movie and I am very excited about. However, I have never played the Warcraft games. I want to follow the lore, but in my research I noticed that Cataclysm really screws things up and changes the content. That is, from my understanding, events that happen for a new character pre-Cataclysm are not concurrent with the same quests/story post-Cataclysm.
The changed intro implies that Cataclysm's level 1 quests for new characters occur AFTER WotLK...even if the player hasn't installed WotLK or Cataclysm.
Am I correct in my understanding? If so, is there any way to play that content that Cataclysm 'wiped out'? To what extent did the timeline shift and how many quests were changed as a result?
>>121993861
Unfortunately they can't make the weapon not a staff because the 3 people in the world that don't use Glyph of Jab would complain.
You'll just have to settle for the keg hanging off of your staff.
>>121993973
You know, I think I take it back. That very first one with the little stein is kind of neat in a humble kind of way. I'll get over it.
>>121993902
You're right, too. My expectations were a little high on that.
>>121993973
I need to stop typing when I'm this tired
>>121993973
I agree, those are all good. Plus I really like the lore behind it. Monkey King was one of my favorite characters from MoP and was not used enough.
>>121993950
Yeah but thats really just for getting between bosses. When I think of mass mobbing I dont think of Rogue. Of course any class can pull together Wrath and below stuff. Im talking a big dick chain puller for MoP and Warlords content at some point to compliment my DK.
>>121993973
Yeah the BM weapons are pretty cool. I was hoping for, but didn't expect to get, something like the big pillar that the strong dude in the panda starting zone uses to bust down the door to the forest. I was pleasantly surprised by these.
>>121993979
No, you're fucked.
If you actually care about the story, though, you might want to just read a couple of the better books and the lore write-ups they do on Blizzard Watch.
There's a lot of story and crap to discover within the game, but so much of it is hidden behind boring and irrelevant quest dialogue that you are best off if you've been playing the game for years and just casually soaked it in over time.
>undelete old character
>has some sorta ironforge guard transmog in the bank
What a neat surprise.
>>121994074
monk
LORE QUESTION
how are worgen death knights answered lore wise?
The worgen Arugal summoned that fact him over were the ones from the emerald dream aka night niggers.
Did the night niggers killing of the rest of arugal's mage friends spread the infection?
And spread it to what? Normal humans or gilneans?
Are you a gilnean you became arugal's bitch because the night niggers bit you? Or some new experiment that was captured by arugal and enslaved and made a worgen?
>>121994123
>ironforge guard
>in stormwind
no wonder you were deleted
>>121993973
Pity they'll all be carried upside down.
>>121994209
>how are worgen death knights answered lore wise?
You were one of the Silverpine Worgen that escaped from Arugal. Then you died and were raised.
Worgen are supposed to be immune to Undeath, but I guess Arthas was just so swole that he did it anyway.
It's complete drivel and they shouldn't have been able to be DKs, but it's what Blizzard said so that's that.
>>121994283
There was a tweet talking about sorting that out.
>>121994283
I really hope they change that, I fucking hate the way staves are carried by monks
>>121993973
>tfw Brew is the artifact you like the most but don't have the time to commit to tanking anymore
here's hoping windwalker is cool at least
>>121994307
worgen aren't immune to undeath, they're immune to plague and valkyrs ressing people
HEART STRIKE CONFIRMED BACK AS AoE TALENT. ITS OVER LADS. DK IS BACK.
>>121994307
>Silverpine Worgen
care to elaborate on that? I didnt really find much about it? What is a silverpine worgen? where did he come from? what was he before he turned?
>>121994375
I quite like the windwanka ones, clean and simple
>>121994454
>>121994307
How did they cure the curse though? All silverpine worgen were completely feral and couldnt turn back to human.
>>121994538
>tfw rapier rouge
warr update is up
what ya think?
