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Old thread: >>121896832
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I'm nervous for my shadow priest
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PvE or PvP realms /wowg/?
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>You will be able to mog your weapon to another weapon type as long as you can equip that weapon type
neat
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>Class blog has me hyped to play my Blood DK again
>No Legion for 11 months

Fuggg
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>>121940417
If you like ganking, roll the unpopulated side on a pvp server.

Otherwise it doesn't matter at all.
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>>121940483
beta soon, prepatch in spring, game in summer

not bad
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So ret's aoe is still clunky and rng then?
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Who /shaman/ here?

What are you guys expecting?

>tfw no Bus Shock
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>>121940740
Been playing WoW since BC and the only Blizzard Beta i've ever gotten an invite to is the new SC2 expansion, and I only got that because they sent invites to everyone in the top 20% of MMR.
I didn't even get in to the Cata beta.
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>>121941004

Im expecting it to be Mediocore compared to other classes so far
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Is the moose mount reward for HC Archimonde out yet? is it rewarded retroactively?
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>>121941004
I'd like Resto Earth Shock to be usable on allies that heals and gives a few stacks of earth shield. Maybe make it so that you can give 1-3 stacks to multiple targets.
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>>121939835
>unholy
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>>121940963
I dunno, but it sounds like they are getting rid of FV, which means they are gonna make DS more consistent at least.
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>>121941025
Really? I got into the WoD beta without playing the game since ulduar
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Okay so about that BONESTORM. I havent played DK in ages. Those of you who did the whole upkeep with Sindragosa can you answer this. Would it be theoretically possible to keep it up 100% of the time in a single target fight?
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>Hammer of Wrath being removed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7aSc4ee3-c
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>free of human slavery
>can now play races i like and still get three trinkets

now to decide night elf or worgen for my rogue
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What minimum item level should I set if I want to easily clear invasions on platinum?
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>>121941350
Not 100% of the time, since Glyph of Icy Chains is kill, but BoS has a 2 minute cooldown, Bonestorm only has 1 minute CD. It should be reasonably possible to keep it up 50-75% of the time depending on bosses.
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>>121941434
Too bad humans are still the best looking race!
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>>121941573
um disinfo thats pandas
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>>121941531
Yeah but it says that Blood Strike gives 10 extra RP than normal. Couldnt you keep it up with Blood Strike spam?
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>>121941364
>let's improve Ret's identity by removing it's most iconic spell since vanilla!
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>>121940447
cumming buckets

finally gonna be able to use fist weapons on a warrior using a sword
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>>121941004
Since they seem to have no problem with giving warlocks rng mastery, I wanna see elemental overload come back now that multistrike is gone.
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>>121941591

Pandas are for pumping and dumping then meeting 18 years later and finding out you have a filthy half-bear son.
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>>121939835
goblins
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>>121941573
i already have human hunter, dk, warrior and paladin, that should be enough
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>>121941640
Warriors already had that in the form of weaponmaster. I kill shit all day with a fishing pole mogged.
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>>121941232
>sounds like they are getting rid of FV
Templars/Final verdict is still in. What are you talking about?
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will loretalker cho be in legion? i miss him since mop of pandaria
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>>121940447
Source? You mean even stuff that isnt 1h or 2h?
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>>121941701
>katiethemoo
>neither of them have giant futa penises

Does anyone remember when blizzard featured some of her art and someone posted her risque stuff in response?
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>>121941852
The blog mentioned Templar's Verdict is now Holy damage as a baseline (along with DS).
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How are they going to save Shamans? Im gonna be laffin if all three just say "We think shamans are in a good place right now."
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>>121941615
I suppose you might be able to, but it would absolutely shit on your mitigation. You're giving up Death Strike for Bonestorm and also not generating Bone Shield charges.
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>>121941667
Wrong, are for cuddles and sharing meals with
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>>121942025
True, it wouldn't be something I would try with current content. Wouldnt it let you truck through MoP and Warlords bosses though basically making you invincible?
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>>121941983
They both already do holy damage. What am I not understanding about this?
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>>121941004
I'm expecting disappointment for enhancement because I have some ideas that I really like and I doubt they'll go for anything along those lines. My realistic hope is just that it stays the lots of fast, small hits spec and that they move a bunch of damage from padding nova to somewhere more effective.

Resto I think is fine how it is. Maybe they'll make it the totem spec because it's really the only one with flavourful totems as it is. I really really like resto for 5mans so the main thing I want is for the challenge mode progression system to be fun and interesting and rewarding.

For ele I just want Lava Burst to get it's burst back but I don't play ele much at all.

I'd really hate to see are each spec focusing on a different element like mages though.
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>>121942137
Blood has been immortal in old content since it was introduced though, so it's not exactly anything new.
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>>121942149
Templar's Verdict was Physical, FV turned it Holy which meant it ignored armor (seeing as how every Raid Boss ever has some level of Armor this was essentially a damage buff to TV), in addition it added a ten yard range and that buff to DS.

Seeing as how TV is now Holy damage without needing a talent, and the blog keeps mentioning they don't like Ret having ranged attacks outside of Judgement, it's more likely thay they are getting rid of FV. Hopefully along with that weird DS buff and just an overall increase to DS's baseline.
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WARLOCK

>Affliction
>8/10
It's in a good spot right now and it doesn't seem to be changing too much. Just decent changes like drain life being your filler.

>Demonology
>11/10
Massive changes. It sounds like they've got a good fantasy for the spec and have a good idea how to achieve it. Pls deliver.

>Destruction
>4/10
Chances to proc chances to proc chances. This isn't good when the main source of damage is twice as expensive as it was before with the resource tied to dot crits and a 12s cooldown (twice as expensive to use, twice as hard to generate). Mastery is also a bit meh. Currently it's a bit meh too but multi-strike with a different visual effect? really?

Currently, [charred remains] Destruction is good fun, imo. It feels fast-paced without being spammy. Deep enough without asking you to spend your raid looking at coloured bars. Using chaos bolt is fun at all times and when it's the vast majority of your damage it's usage can become quite pivotal - misuse could punish the raid if at the wrong moment but also make mincemeat of a target if used correctly. That's the destruction spec.

All destruction needed was a more interesting mastery and maybe something involving imps. Personally I think all warlock specs should employ some form of demon in their play w/ demonology being swarms of them to set it apart. Right now, summons are shit. I can't remember the last time I had a demon out for long enough that it finished it's spawn emote before evaporating.

-My blog
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>>121942386
>no actual adjustments to AoE
>they don't like Ret having ranged attacks outside of Judgement
dropped
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>>121942671
They need to drop pets for Destruction and just let you make wells of fire, firewalls, exploding runes on the ground, and a channeled immolate that if finishes explodes around you for more damage.
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>>121942732
Are you fucking serious? This had better be some radical change, maybe buff the fuck out of hammer of the righteous so ret isn't "haha so you want to aoe? Better spam weak aoe spells and divine storm procs which it never does when you want to :^)"
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reply to this post with lewd wow girls and butts

I am curious to see which mmo has the lewdest girls and butts
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>>121943195
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Everyone CHILL THE FUCK OUT. They keep saying the talents will build on the specs.
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>>121942898
>every spec so far has either had a good and clear identity or a pretty big rehaul
>destruction revels in chaos etc.
>ye, fire and shit, sounds fine
Either go all in with the chaos elements with lots of shit everywhere, some RNG but not shaman level and that passive or just keep it fire n shit with a huge fucking burst. The mastery doesn't seem to fit the spec at all.
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>>121943181
Prot gets 3 charges for HotR for snap-threat but its not mentioned anywhere under Ret so it probably isn't changing.

DK and Druid for me.
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>>121943195
Lewd butt pose
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>>121943652
WHAT

HOW

MY DICK
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>>121943585
I'm waiting for the Rogue blog before i decide desu. I'm interested in the changes to Combat, or Outlaw.
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>About to delete 90 horde priest to make an alliance one
>Realize she has Polychromatic Dreamwrap
Guess she's staying until Legion.
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>log in
>collect herbs from garrison
>vendor for 22 WHOLE gold
Holy fucking shit I'm so rich. Why even play the game when I have all the superior goldmaking strats? I don't know why you guys even try
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>>121943195
female pandas. but if fur isint your thing i would say female human or bloodelf
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>>121943734
all the cool shit like cannonballs and grappling hooks are in the talents, which we won't see
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>>121943805
pandas are fine senpai
don't tell anyone I said that though
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>>121943195
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>>121943835
the DK blog made a pretty good showing regardless.
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>>121943769
I'm jealous, but I shouldn't be.
Blizzard should just make this goddam thing obtainable again.

I'm more mad than jealous at this point because of how stupidly they removed it.

>Redesign dungeon
>Make old loot obtainable (Doing good)
>Immediately remove the redesigned loot (pure evil)
Bothers me so much
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>>121943181
there's a screenshot of Ret having conscencrate from Blizzcon somewhere so maybe they are getting that back?
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>>121943718
/rude and turn to the right on a FemDrae
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>>121944135
You're a fucking god.
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>make alt on alt account so I can boost him and them transfer him to my main account when I get banned in a couple days

> you need to buy wod AND legion

god fucking damn

are we getting unbanned immediately on Friday, banboys?
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>>121944135
Are there any REAL females online?
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>>121944308
Literally everyone who has ever posted in wowg has been a guy in real life.
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>Aff
8/10 sounds like a DoT spec forreal now.

>Demo
9001/10 I don't care if it's the most UP spec in-game, playing.

>Destro
2/10 basically Wrath destro with a few tweaks. I hated it in Wrath and it can still eat shit.
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What are some good mogs for femtrolls?
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>>121944483
just because i'm a pre-op girl doesn't mean i'm not a girl
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>>121944483
>Who is Jocelyn?
>Who is Danielle?
But everyone else yeah.
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I think I saw someone mention Blizzard has officially said there will be no new class+race combos in Legion

Is this legit?

>no draenei or panda warlock

why even live

alliance warlock selection is shit
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When will we finally get Worgen Paladins /wowg/. Goblins can be Shamans, its only fair.

I'm not even a furry I just hate playing Draenei and Humans. Dworfs are an option.
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>>121944308
The ones that are are hideous.
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>>121944221
Let there be butt!
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>>121944779
>Who are they?
Well we actually dont know who they are or what they look like.

So really, you are wrong.
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>>121944669
>having surgery to look like the opposite gender you were born as

Don't do that. Just be gay.
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>>121941004
Probably leaving resto and switching to enhancement. I just feel like with changes to priests and holy paladins and everything Shamans will be at the back of the "fun" pack.
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>>121945020
Is this some kind of new troll thing, or...? Quite a few people from /wowg/ have met with Jocelyn in real life person face to face person personally.
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AND THAT IS WHY I WILL SHOW YOU MY DEMON
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What realm is the most meme free.
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>>121945391
any dead realm
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I need some advice friendos. My two 100 characters are on a dead server but in a guild I used to raid with and have a few friends in. I can raid with them when I have the time soon. Should I tough it out and stay or try my luck on a new server (US Horde)
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>>121941701
They don't look like that they look awful fem orc> fem goblin.
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>>121941004
I'm expecting disaster.
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Shamans in one hour boys. Who will be saved?
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>>121945643
Depends how progressed they are. If you're planning to buy legion anyway, you get a free 100 with it, so you could do that.

Server transfers are cheap enough, and it's always more fun to play with friends.
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>>121945812
>mfw Enhance is the most powerful melee spec
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>>121941004
>tfw they won't make Chain Heal smart again
I miss Brain Heal.
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>literally not a single content update for an entire year

Ummmmmm??

So what the fuck do we do?
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>>121946152
Chain heal is still a smart heal

Unless you mean having to chain through riptides. I'm still mad at how fucking retarded healing mythic is
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>>121946194
Spend hours and hours playing dress up so you can spam autistic screenshots of your character in /wowg/ like all the other retards.
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>>121946194
In a few months from now we should be getting 3-4 new dungeons which award 705 iLvl loot, like how the Hour of Twilight dungeons came out. it's a shame we're not getting anything but wanting a new raid is retarded.

Having a year at the end of the final raid tier is a good thing. It lets people catch up.
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>>121946194
Collect mounts
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>>121946380
Are you implying there's something to do besides playing dress up?
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>>121946351
Chain Heal heals "an injured" target, not "the most injured" target when it bounces.
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>>121946457
>Having a year at the end of the final raid tier is a good thing

Sure, if there's actually fucking content to do outside of the shitty raids.
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>>121946457
>It lets people catch up.

Catch up to what? Catch up to the complete reset at the end?
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>>121946601
You are incorrect. Test it yourself. It was not smart for the entirely of half a patch in WoD. It's one of the only smart heals left.
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>>121946665
>resetting in 15 months means you can't have fun now

ok
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>>121946665
Say I start playing WoW half into the expansion. I use my boost on something I dislike, and casually level something up from level 1.

I have time if I actually put effort in to progress through the raids with a casual guild and start mythic raiding before the expansion is over.

I agree there is a lack of content but that's the real problem, not the year standstill we've practically always had with every expansion in the past.

We could use a ruby sanctum or HoT dungeon rollout though. Maybe if timewalking wasn't a fucking weekly event but something that was doable every day it'd fill the gap in.
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Remember to pet your female Humans everybody.
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>enh getting fixed somehow
>ele getting overload back
>maelstrom being full on RNG resource, 10% to proc from anything at all
>replace flame shock procs and current maelstrom
Hype.
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>>121947039
Why didn't they have timewalking on constantly but make it so the dungeon selection rotates every week?
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>>121947694
because everyone loves time gated content.
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>>121947694
Whatever they're using to scale levels is still pretty buggy. It's not really ready for a full scale release.
I expect Blizzard is basically using Timewalking 5mans as a beta test before they start applying the same idea to old raids.
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My fire mage is complete!
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>>121946194

contrary to what you seem to think, blizzard do not expect you to stay subbed 24/7/365

finish what you want to finish and unsub until the pre-patch. I got my Captain title today, now i'm just thinking I'll level up my death knight and a hunter to 100 and maybe a shaman to 80/90 then leave.
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>>121947950

What's going in your offhand a huge dragon dildo?
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So, now that I'm getting Bonestorm, I need some gear that goes well with Bryntroll. anyone got ideas?
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>>121947569
>Not petting the celestials
???
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>>121948335
Magma Plated
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>1 year of wod next week

holy SHIT

where did the time GoOoOO
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>>121948335
All that awesome troll themed stuff.
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>>121940447
Does this mean that you can mog 2H weapons onto 1H weapons?
Please, I need my 2H shaman back!
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>>121948438

down the toilet m8

>redundant in april
>currently working 16 hours a week at my barber's
>£400 owed to credit card
>~£90 in bank

:^)
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>>121948589
No, they said it will obey existing transmog rules.
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>>121946826
Did you fuck?
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>>121947986
>he's not going to stay subscribed every day till legion hits
Lmao fucking losers
This games the shit
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>>121948813
They should really allow transmogging between fist weapons and other 1H weapons. Would be hell being stuck with fists all expansion.
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>>121948734
>being made redundant

sorry :(

im probably going to lose my job soon as well since they're moving the base
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https://twitter.com/warcraftdevs/status/663812757372858368
>The current plan is to remove Weakened Soul

Shadowpriests gonna be bomb in minigames.
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>>121947569
>not petting night elves
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>>121946194
Max all my horde like I did alliance.
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>>121949301
I don't pat them. I fuck them with my colossal horsecock, is that wrong?
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>>121949528
Oh so you pat their wombs with your dick.
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6 minutes until shamans are removed :D
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>>121944640
Demo is good, especially coming off the back of one of the better specs in the game.

Destro RNG is absolute bullshit and flies in the face of what destro is about. The whole point of that spec is being able to skillfully allocate damage and the guaranteed crit chance on chaos bolts meant you'd have a reasonable expectation of what that damage was, the new mastery and soul shard regen avenue is terrible in this respect.


Affliction - Good shift to dots over filler, hell to balance on multitarget because despite being boring gameplay the filler ability allowed us to scale alright with multitarget and still be good on single target without being terribly overpowered. Also curious to see what the other soul shard spender is as well as nightfall chance, currently taking into account a no shards pandemic with cast time, we need a shard every 5-6 seconds just to maintain UA on single target, but then on multi-target we'll have a surplus of shards if we take that contagion talent
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please take vjera back

pleaaaaaaaaaaase
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IT'S UP
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19955663/legion-class-preview-series-shaman-11-10-2015
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>>121950810
am i in d2g?
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>>121950514
>flies in the face of what destro is about
As an in-game spec, absolutely, but they could have reworked the spec completely, focusing on the chaos part, making it heavily RNG and/or proc-based.
This looks like they were afraid to go all in on the latter becaused destro isn't in the same place as either demo, enhancement or survival and they found a really bad compromise that makes no sense.
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IT'S UP.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19955664/legion-class-preview-series-shaman-11-10-2015
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>>121949227
>Shadowpriests gonna be bomb in minigames

They are already good where the fuck have you been?
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19955664/legion-class-preview-series-shaman-11-10-2015
wew lads, we're in for a treat
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>>121950810
>2 minutes early
I was about to say something about it not even mattering, but you got me hyped close enough to the actual post that I can't stop thinking about it.
p gud desu senpai
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>>121950810
>Totems being redesigned again
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>>121950810
>BL removed
>Chain lightning removed
>Chain heal removed
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>Blizzard taking more shit from Heroes
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>>121951018
Hi.
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>>121951038
>maelstrom weapon instacast is gone
>no more insta healing+wolves godmode

kek good riddance
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>>121950889
I think something I was discussing with another lock was that rng does have its place, like trinket procs I don't mind that kind of rng because it adds variety to your playstyle in that moment, but if you have just a passive rng that sometimes your spell will just do more damage or have a chance to generate soul shards where it takes it out of the players hands it just feels shit.

If they made the spec heavily proc based, which in a sense with things like GSR and DSI it does already heavily revolve around reacting to procs, it would actually be really fun, like a bunch of in built procs would make you think on the fly and emphasise that chaos perspective or have something I heard someone else suggest was like a volatile dot that randomly erupts and removes itself that you have to constantly watch.
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>>121951243
>BL removed

no source senpai
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>>121951342
I know you.
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>>121951629

I'll be honest, Elemental looks like a shitty update to maelstrom.
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>>121951614
That sounds hella fun, but it doesn't seem like something in modern wow. Maybe if it was there in ~Wrath and they kept working with it, but I don't see that kind of thing being introduced now, as fun as that sounds.
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When will you people realize that just because something isnt mentioned doesnt mean its taken out? Its just core abilities for rotations.
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>No LB on the move, the defining trait of Elemental.
>No MW procs for that sweet healing surge self-heal
>Resto got practically no changes

Why not delete the class instead?
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>Shaman changes

wowitsfuckingnothing.jpg
People actually thought Blizzard were going to put effort into Shamans? lol.
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Holy fuck.

It's literally nothing at all.

Resto shamans didn't see any changes (probably because Ion plays one).

Elemental shamans got their lightning shield mechanic baked into maelstrom (though at least we get our old mastery back).

Enhancement shamans got spells renamed (unleashe elements --> flametongue). Also we apparently have to spam rockbiter to gain maelstrom.

J U S T
U
S
T
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>>121952001
>lb on the move
>defining trait of elemental

how new are you? For most of wow's life elemental was known as a turret spec
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>Shamans get another 'we think you're in a good spot already' for another expansion
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>>121952139
And no one cared about it until it got UL.
Not to say it was the first caster to get a filler on the move.
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>>121951873

I know, it's just wishful thinking, I could tolerate destro in its current state, it wasn't the most engaging but it had its moments and I could respect going all out chaotic from a design perspective but not what we got
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>shamens
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>>121952001
Wasn't LB on the move only there for like 2 expansions?
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>Make a new character
tfw
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>>121952212
At least Resto actually is in a good spot.
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>I was just starting to like playing shaman
>see legion update
>mfw
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>Ele gets no shock cooldown and a slightly better mastery but removed fulmination

>Enh gets some stuff removed gets some stuff added back probably plays about the same just no insta casts mid fight

>Resto got a singular passive to use healing wave occasionally and basically nothing else

gg blizz wp :^)
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>>121952129
>Enhancement shamans got spells renamed (unleashe elements --> flametongue). Also we apparently have to spam rockbiter to gain maelstrom
Unleash Elements and flametongue aren't the same at all. UE played in with other spell and if you goofed which spell to use after it, it could impact your dps. FT is just a buff to keep up. It's not interesting or anything, but it certainly isn't UE. And rockbiter spam can't be any worse than a cast time spell as filler on a melee class.
All in all, Ele got nothing but a weird Flame Shock vs Earth Shock prioritizing and enhancement can't possibly get worse than it is, even though they're making it almost a 4th warrior spec.
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if you dont play

>night elf druid, hunter
>human mage, warrior, rogue, death knight, paladin, warlock
>orc shaman

you are wrong and a degenerate
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>>121945178
I'm new, got their pics?
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>>121953019
Gnome mage.
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God, the contrast with druids tomorrow it will be gross.
I wonder if they will show if the attunements are as overpowered as they sound.
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>>121953019
>human
>warlock

are you okay
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>shaman is literally nothing
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It's okay guys I asked BigBandaMan and he says he can't get enough of the shaman preview. We're in the clear. I'm sure he wasn't being sarcastic.

>>121953026
I mean, yeah, but I'm not going to give them any more recognition than name-dropping.
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>>121952901

Rockbiter is the main improvement I see. though, there's a serious question of whether blizzard actually wants you to use it every GCD, seems contrary to their usual design of forcing break times by resource blocks.
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>>121953019
>implying Dwarf Hunter with a shotgun/rifle isn't canon as all fuck
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>elemental gets rid of awful mastery and clunky shock cooldown

>enhancement makes your buttons actually do stuff

>resto gets fixed totems

Makes me want to try shaman dps again.
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>>121953197
Now listen here, you do it now or i will forcfully dig them up and post them all here myself
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>>121953131
>memequake the spec
>looks just as shit and unnecessary in raids in legion

top kek
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>>121953107
acceptable

>>121953126
are you?

>>121953306
you better use a mountaineer mog and a bear
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>soon this wont even be a special sight
Feels bad for people who actually earned them.
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>>121953019
>Nelf hunter
Real fucking original, Legolas420x.

>Human in FANTASY game when you're a human in person
I might understand warrior and paladin, but fucking c'mon.

>Orc shamangoloid
This is correct.
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>>121953325
Then do it. Enjoy the temp ban.
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>>121953201
My problem is where the hell is the RNG? They're seemingly removing FS from enhancement, so Lava Lash resets don't seem like a possibility. Ele got LvB and overload, Enhancement are losing both RNG procs and gaining only one. I literally play Shaman for the RNG.
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>>121953458
its about being lore friendly not original you hipster faggot

>>121953438
serves them right for being attention whores
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>All they did was rename the mana bar
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>>121953609
>lore friendly
>only including that
Are you high?
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>>121953609
All class/race combos are lorefriendly at the moment though???
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>>121953601
Enhancement has Stormstrike resets and bursty resource generation.

That's about the same they had before.
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Can't wait for Monk changes.
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>>121953772
fuck off you probably play some walking meme like gnome death knight or any kind of female draenei
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>>121953914
>get proven wrong
>lol fuck off faggot
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>>121953914
How are all female draenei not lore friendly?
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I'm already having problems deciding on my legion main, i'd prefer to be a strong offensive caster thats fun to play (so mage is excluded)

Right now im thinking
>spriest
>ele shaman
>balance druid (if they get some decent changes in the preview)
or my current main which is
>death knight (probably unholy in Legion)

pls help
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>>121953983
shut up your "qt" female draenei shaman is shit and you know it
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>Totems of the same nature type can now be summoned together, allowing you to have Healing Stream Totem and Healing Tide Totem up at the same time. Elementals are no longer tied to totems, but are guardians that follow and assist you. Totems’ maximum health will always equal a percentage of your maximum health. In addition, totems that need to be placed at a specific location will be directly placed using a targeting reticle. If you want to place Earthgrab Totem in the middle of a big pack of nasty orcs, you can do that without having to run into that nastiness or use a separate spell to throw the totem there. In general, totem mechanics are concentrated around temporary effects (either beneficial or hostile) in a localized area, as opposed to “maintenance buff” cooldowns you need to make sure are up at all times.
Finally.

Now they just need to let you have two earth shields and we're golden
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>>121953601
Windfury and extra maelstrom procs...
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>>121953801
>bursty resource regeneration
>minor regen on AAs and one GCD per fixed amount
Nah. If windfury gave like 10-20 maelstrom, maybe 5 per hit, I'd have what I wanted, but it's just runic power with no runes and stormfury.
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>>121952280
>http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19955663/legion-class-preview-series-shaman-11-10-2015

WoTLK as a glyph, Cata and MoP without if I recall correctly
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>>121954056
I should also say my mains in each xpac were
>vanilla
Mage
>BC
Mage
>wotlk
Ele shaman
>Cata
Warrior/Spriest
>Pandas
Feral/Balance druid
>WoD
Death knight
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>>121954056
>spriest
It looks awesome in general on legion, but don't go priest if you don't like healing, shadow always gets the shaft.

I hope both holy and disc become viable at the same time, legion holy sounds pretty good.
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>>121954127
>>121954103
Oh shit, thoughtr the 5 maelstrom was only for AAs. My bad, I'm happy now.
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>>121954236
yeah that generally seems to be the case, I always had fun with Shadow but its pretty consistently shitty. I like the Maelstrom mechanic with Elemental so i was thinking about that but Ele shamans are generally not great either.
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>>121954089
I just restarted the other day and I'm shocked at how shit my resto shaman is.

>can't summon all 4 totems with one spell
>astral recall useless because hearth cd 15mins
>no lesser healing wave
>no weapon enhancement spells

These changes seem mediocre fixes though.

>can summon totems of the same time concurrently
>elementals are no longer totems
>totems summoned with a targeting reticule

So basically totems are just spells now.

>mana being removed from ele and enh shamans

What the fuck?
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>Ele and Enh reworked to be less clunky and flow better
>Resto was fine so they made minor tweaks
>Shamans still crying

What class has the whiniest players and why is it shamans?
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https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/664255783165521921

>Could we get an example of reliable Enhancement AOE in Legion? Would appreciated.

Enhancement has a new frontal-cone AoE spell called Crash Lightning, which also causes Stormstrike and Lava Lash to trigger AoEs.
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>>121954314
Either Spriest or make a Lock. There's going to be way too many Melee in legion.
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>>121954442
>Crash Lightning

WUDUBADA
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>>121954423
Totems were basically spells before. Ones where position mattered were all macroed with Totemic Projection already.
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>>121954423
>can't summon all 4 totems with one spell
That happened with the toem rework when they made totems actual CD's instead of low value maintenance buffs. I liked that change a lot actually.
>no lesser healing wave
Yeah they removed everyone Lesser healing spell in WoD. Was a dumb change
>no weapon enhancement spells
Yeah I don't know why they did that and removed the shaman max health increase passive. It was a dumb idea.
>can summon totems of the same time concurrently
This is really minor honestly
>elementals are no longer totems
This was always stupid because they had such a long CD for such bad return.
>totems summoned with a targeting reticule
This is the best change bar none
>>121954645
>Ever taking projection
>>121954440
Warriors, bar none
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>>121941364
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I wanna transfer a character I have to a newer account. But I am not subbed on the character's current account.

Do you guys think a GM would maybe give me 1 day of playtime to get my shit sorted before I paid $25 to xfer him?
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>mfw survival hunters in trade are looking for a guild for legion
>mfw i know 1 of them rerolled from marksman to survival
>mfw he thinks he is gonna get a meele slot in a guild
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>Ele changes
Okay this is the first one where I honestly can't tell if I like it or not. As stupid as it is, I think its gotta be about numbers and whether or not Lava Burst feels strong again. I don't hate it, but Hunter, Spriest, and Lock all seem way better so far.
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>>121954056
>>121954212

p-pls respond
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>>121954954
Well melee are going to be the top dogs in legion so he probably will
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>>121954785
What level 45 talent is better?

>>121954954
The only thing stopping me from hopping right on the Survival hype train is the fact that your raid leader is guaranteed to try and make you go ranged all the time.
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>>121954954
>respeccing for legion
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>Greater Rifts, D3 Wardrobe, Unique Power Legendaries and Bounties
>Prot Paladins get D3 Crusader Blessed Hammer
>Ret gets Tyrael's Q from HoTS
>Enhancement gets Thrall's Ult from HoTS
>Mfw Blizzard cannibalizing all the good elements from their other dead games
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>>121954954

>they aren't going Demon Hunter in Legion
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>>121955307
>playing le edgy meme class
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>>121955307
>playing the meme purple and green class
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>>121955164
Call of the Elements
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>>121955336
>le edgy meme class

who isnt? world of WARcraft, faggot
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>>121950810

>Multistrike is again Elemental's Mastery
>Resto keeps its situational shitty Mastery
>Enhancement dumbed down
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>>121955401
People who aren't faggots
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>Searing Totem removed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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>Searing Totem wasn't really providing compelling gameplay, so it's been removed in Legion.

That's true, but still feels strange. Do i just fear change?
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>>121955583
Thank god. Fuck that totem.
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>>121955462
>not a faggot
>yet plays wow

if you're not an orc warrior you cant call anyone a faggot
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>>121955462

You realize 70% of this general are LITERALLY faggot furries, right?

The people playing male night elf demon hunters are infinitely better, and straight. Kill yourself.
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>>121955415
Resto's mastery is great. It's only 'situational' in that it's good when you need it to be.
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>HURR WHY ARE THEY DUMBING DOWN MY CLASS AHURRRRRRRRR

>Warlock Artifact preview at Blizzcon showed that artifacts will have several active or proc abilities on them
>They've said several times that there will be at least 4-5 rows of throughput talents for every spec come legion
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>>121955000
I don't know what to play either, I was thinking warlock just because the changes look solid and the artifacts are dank, but with every blog post I want to play something else.

I hate decisions.
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>>121956054
>dumbing down
>my class got dumbed up
Hunters could only get better, really.
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>>121956054
Retard
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>>121956054
People are fucking retarded and can't read
>It’s important to note that the base spells of a specialization represent a foundation upon which talents and Artifact traits will be built
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>>121956054
>implying they dumbed down DK's
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>>121954056
Ele shaman for literally Ogre Magi. It's lots of fun, completely unreliable and huge numbers everywhere.
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>>121956054
You have no proof that every single row of talent will be a skill choice. Also we are losing artifacts at the end of the expansion. How shitty will it be when we lose all those skills we got used to right after this?
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Making a dk for legion pvp. Convince me not to make it a belf for the silence.
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so my fucking healer queue is 25 minutes

any US alliance tanks leveling around level 55-57? pls add me deemania#1305
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>>121956440
Make a belf for the runic power.
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>>121956368
>skills changed to fit that specific weapon type
>the most powerful weapons in the world bar some that are account for and maybe very few that haven't
I know they say we'll drop artifacts, but it wouldn't make any sense. They'll probably do a "people like artifacts anyway, so we are just gonna improve cosmetic shit and keeping them".
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>>121956368

You have no proof they wont be.

"We were looking to make more impactful talents - on rogues, 5 of the rows are now straight throughput, every spec has at least 4-5 rows that are pure throughput"

was said about Rogues.

>Also we are losing artifacts at the end of the expansion

Why are you arguing with me when you clearly have a crystal ball that can predict the future?

You stupid fucking cunt.
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>>121956026
>You realize 70% of this general are LITERALLY faggot furries, right?

It's just a few loud retards (which is the reason furries are hated in the first place: they tend to attract extremely loud, obnoxious morons trying to shove down everyone throats their shitty fetish) and autistic faggots using it as an excuse for "ironic" shitposting
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>>121956440
the animations are horrible make it a orc and use a polearm /axes
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>>121956645
They literally said they would during Blizzcon. They said they didn't plan to keep using the artifact system.
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>>121954440
The shaman community is so spiteful they got a CM (Tseric) to quit his job back in vanilla. Blizzard has been snubbing them ever since.
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>>121956645
I was at blizzcon and they said artifacts were a legion exclusive thing.
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>>121956440
>Convince me not to make it a belf for the silence

what if they disable racials in PvP
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http://strawpoll.me/5976247
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>>121956646
>people hate all furrys because some trolls hide behind furrys to annoy me

wow that explains a lot. theres nothing wrong with being a furry, its just the trolls that make us look bad
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>>121956751
>>121956812

I didn't quote the full thing, I meant the part about "when we lose those skills".

And whos to say they wont back the abilities into the class afterwards?

Maybe we fucking absorb our artifact to make up for how dumb it is dropping Ashbringer for Bumsword of the Whale.
>>
So am I terrible person for playing Male Pandaren?
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>>121956440
>Convince me not to make it a belf

belfs look like faggots
horrible melee animations
weapons are smaller on them
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