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Rakghoul Event - Nov. 10
Battlefront 3 - Nov. 17

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If you participate in Bioware romances you are part of the problem
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Remove Tora.
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You do not mess with Kiregan Freem.
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Remove Lanafags
Give option to kill Lana

Lana is scum
Lana is worst girl
Lana is the reason kotfe is bad
Lana is everything wrong with the world today
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>>121698094
What did Lana ever do to you?
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>>121698094
>mfw anon is mad Lana is canon love interest
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>>121697825
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I just want Kaliyo to die
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>>121698251
I will make sure she suffers once I'm finally allowed to dispose of her.
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>>121698307
Fuck off with your disgusting scat cat.
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>>121698307
>Furry agent
Are you retarded
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>>121698453
muh lore
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>>121698453
>race commonly allied with the republic
>not an ideal candidate for a deep cover agent
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>>121698094
DON'T MAKE ME DESTROY YOU
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>>121698656
I bet you're one of those retards who think Chiss don't work as IA race.
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>>121698656
>deep cover

except you're pretending to be a defector, not one of them
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>>121698656
>race commonly seen as worthless garbage
>a candidate for imperial anything
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>>121698865
That's the turn the story takes, but do you know that before you make the fucking character?

Are people supposed to read up on what people are going to say in the story they're about to play and decide on their race based on that?
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>>121698952
There's a fucking story blurb in the character creation you cretin, it's not our fault that you're illiterate
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>>121699024
Really? I've not checked but it tells you that you'll be defecting at some point? That's stupid.
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>>121699060
No but I'm pretty sure it doesn't say you'll be pretending to be a Republic stooge either
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>>121699108
Well there you go, make what the fuck you want and don't worry about what might come up
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>>121699108
why wouldn't you assume that a secret agent for the EMPIRE would be going undercover in the republic
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the only classes that really accomodate any species you want are trooper, smuggler, inquisitor, and bounty hunter.

Obviously this excludes chiss, pureblood sith and probably miralukas.
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Opinions?

>>121699378
>>121699378
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Reminder that if you play on Ebin Hawk server you are giving your support to a meme ship that has no place in the game
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>>121699516
haha remember that retarded discussion

lets have it again exactly the same
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>>121697698
How do you guys do it? How do you guys find the will to keep on living, knowing that you will never hold your Imperial Agent in your arms, knowing that you will never lovingly enter her, and knowing you will have a family with her?

Fuck this gay earth. Life is so bleak.
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>>121699480
Most people I know are splitting alacrity and crit evenly
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>>121699480
ok first of all you should choosing either power OR crit otherwise you're wasting damage potential.

For AP powertech people are recommending that you get about 800 alacrity and 110% accuracy before maxing either power or crit.

The way the theorycrafting is working right now is that people are saying power is better than crit in long drawn out fights (like OPs) but crit is much better for burst. I go crit. I haven't parsed yet but there are enough crit windows for my tactics vanguard that I think it's worth it.
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>>121699546
I like this post because if you remove the context it perfectly sums up what a general thread is.
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>>121699480
aug accuracy and crit mostly with a couple of alacrity ones, leave power for other slots, remember to get lethal mods for extra power rather than end and mastery
also look up different guides and discussion on the forums, try to get to the bottom of the reason why you're doing x rather than just blindly believing everything you read, including this post
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>>121699667
Well I dont PvP so everything I do will be long drawn out fights.

So I should replace some or all of the power with alacirty?
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>>121699667
Also I should add that since I don't have a lot of room for customization like set bonuses, due to the changes with crit giving you more surge AND crit chance, you do more with a little bit of crit than you would with a little bit of power.
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>>121699209
Because not all field agents do undercover work, you fuckstick
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>>121699735
Yeah it's recommended that in order to achieve optimal dps on PTs/Vanguards you need between 800-900 alacrity. It just helps with everything from cooldowns to energy management.
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>>121699887
At work at the moment so I cant check, roughly how many alacrity augments does one need to get at least 800?
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>>121699942
It's definitely around 7 or more.
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>>121699434

I don't understand why Twi'lek bounty hunters aren't a default unlocked combo. Twi'leks are mostly slaves, criminals and low class shit like that, so I don't see why a particularly ruthless Twigger wouldn't hunt bounties.
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>>121700068
Because they're an inferior race which gets KO'd when someone as much as squeezes their lekku. Not to mention shoots it, blasts it with shrapnel or whatever.
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>>121700145

why can they be Jedi or wild west gunslinging smugglers then?
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>>121700176
Jedi have the Force, Smugglers have their crazy luck.
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>>121700145
>>121700176
>>121700237


Or, shit, republic troopers. I'd say a Bounty Hunter has more justification to claim a "weak" species can overcome its physical shortcomings by using superior tech, than a Trooper does.
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>>121700023
So even for PvE its not recommended to stack any power?

Strange, gearing is very easy now but augmenting is confusing, my poor 2.0 acclimated brain hurts.
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>>121700315
Crit and alacrity are just insane of what they provide per point after the stat crunch
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>>121699942
wouldn't get most of a required stat from augs desu, might as well get like half of it from enchantments and earpiece/implants, mostly just makes managing stats easier and most likely less confusing
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>>121700315
You stack power or crit, because splitting them is going to reduce your potential damage. PTs/Vanguards have always need alacrity, this discussion is only taking place now because they have finally moved to top tier. Gearing for classes like Snipers and Sins is different and they have different min/maxing stats.

So without getting another debate about why power>crit or crit>power (because really the difference is about 1% from what I've read) just make that if you do start stacking one damage/heal stat, you stick with it instead of splitting. This is of course after you hit your minimum alacrity/accuracy stats.
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Any Harbinger players ITT? Looking for people to quest, level or raid with.
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>>121700447
Thus why I get my accuracy with enhancements and not augments, its easier to keep track of.
>>121700397
Are you sure you need 800 alacrity on PTs?

From what Im seeing just googling stuff 7 augments only gets you around 500.
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>>121700596
>they have finally moved to top tier

what planet have you been living on m8
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>>121700676
they were second to pyro throughout all of 3.0+ although not by much so people just seem to forget
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>want to play a LS trooper
>starter planet LS options include two instances of letting troops suffer
Okay
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>>121700851
Bioware are lefty scum that hate the troops
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>>121700851
Shouldn't be worrying about alignment in non-Force classes.
Actually, you shouldn't worry about alignment at all. There's plenty of sensible light options in the game that it offsets what little dark side points you get from doing the right thing, and vice-versa.
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>>121700676
Top tier in terms of PVE, and they were even worse for pve prior to the rotation changes in 3.0.
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>>121699564
Feels bad
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>>121700596
So its bad to split between power or crit, but one needs alacrity, at least 5% from what ive found on google.

So then what, 6 alacrity 8 crit augs?
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>Take my time and look at everything, even areas you don't need to go to at all
>Tfw foreshadowing
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>>121699564

>Waifuing your own character
That's not how you do it
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>>121700851
I never gave a fuck about what the choices do in Trooper story. I just wanted it to be over.
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>>121701449
If that gets you the amount you need then that's what you do. There's no one one size fits all because people pick different earpieces and implants, but you do have the gist of what you need to do. Just remember to hit 110% accuracy when gearing for PVE
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>>121701626
Someone else here said the desired amount of alacrity is around 800, but I dont see that being true, thats like 12 augments.
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How much more of KotFE will be released in January?
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>>121701912
1 chapter
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>>121701768
But the stats from your gear pieces will also give you alacrity. When people crunch the numbers they're doing it for the highest rated gear. So if you don't have 220s + the set bonus, just focus on getting 110% accuracy with your augs and get like 5% alacrity and fill the rest with power/crit.

Just remember the majority of your damage and stats comes from your actual pve set pieces. If you have 216-220 everything you're already in a very good place. Augments and stuff are just sprinkles on an already delicious cake.
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>>121701998
But I definitely should not augment for both power and crit?

Thats just about the last thing Im wondering about, so forgive the questions.

I dont see how that would be a loss of DPS, when you have the burst sustain, and the overall sustain.
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>>121701943
1 hour more like
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Are the 2 operative DPS specs any good for operations or am I stuck to being a healer?
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>>121702317
That is what he said, yes
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>>121702132
It would be a loss of DPS because your chance to crit + crit damage would be lowered and everytime you don't crit you do less regular damage because your power is lower.

If you go full crit, your chance of critting is much higher and your crits do ludicrous damage.

If you go full power all your attacks are just meatier overall, but your crits aren't potent, which some people say is a downside because of the huge crit windows PTs/Vanguards naturally get.
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>Tanno dies in one hit without even putting up a fight
Kek, what a pussy.
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>>121702660
fortunately Tora will take a while to die once I set fire to her whore face.
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>>121702547
So then just dont augment for power at all, got it.
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>tfw the VA of my character partially changes to the one of the JK (I believe) during the part with Heskal's guys
What the FUCK...
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>>121702660
>someone ok'd that character
>someone thought it's a good idea to put this shit in
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>>121702547
Can the same be said about healing?

Augment for power, or crit, but not both?
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>>121703374
Hey, we can't just have likeable characters all around in a story. We need ones to hate too, and they don't necessarily have to be villains.
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>>121702350
I've been doing the lethality one and been fucking destroying everything with ease
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>>121703487
I think you just keep stacking crit or go like half crit half alacrity because your gear naturally has more crit than power. Debate is a little different for PTs/Vanguards because their gear generally has more power than crit.

Also because you do multiple instances of heals with a single ability usually your chances of getting tons of crits makes it more valuable. Which also means that dps dot specs also benefit more from crit than power/mastery
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>>121703605
Yep. But there are certain inconsistencies. For example when you rescue her and after all's done tell her to shut the fuck up and go get to work, she does that WOW SO THREATENING thing.
At this point SI and most SW's would choke/zap her, possibly lethally or otherwise hurt her and then go tell Koth that she already had these horrifying burn scars when they got there.
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>>121702350
Concealment is very viable, very good DPS, but its meticulous and somewhat difficult to do. Done incorrectly youll run out of energy and be useless, but its very possible to sustain with.

Lethality is ass.
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>>121703605
Unlikable characters work much better if they're a rival or in some way visibly make the MC's life hell. The problem with Tora is that we can't properly react to her. She has no power. There's no story reason why the PC has to put up with her shit but we are railroaded into doing so. It just creates more disconnect between how you want to play your character and how you are able to.

Same story with Kaliyo and Skadge.
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>>121703857
Thats what I figured.

So for a healing operative building mostly crit for all the separate crits from the HoT abilities is ideal...?
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>>121703905
think you mixed the names there, lad
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>>121704083
Dude you don't get it.

She's a really really good mechanic
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>>121704083
I think it's fine to have annoying companion characters, the problem with Tora isn't that she's just an annoying companion character, but she's an annoying companion character that is easily relatable to an annoying stereotype in real life that people dread dealing with
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>>121704151
Nope, unless it changed with 4.0 concealment is a very good DPS class, similar to AP with the PT. Lethality for operatives isnt a very good class, Im sure it pulls acceptable DPS if you do it right, but its worse than concealment.
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>>121704304
which of those is stabbing people
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>>121704304
it did change, sorry Anon
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>>121704165
Fucking Koth made the ship fly off Zakuul. With duct tape and probably his pubes. I don't know what that shitfuck used but it worked.
Then I get an entire underground starport fulla people, and eventually an ancient AI. Why do I need Tora after I get SCORPIO?
In fact, why do I specifically need her before too?
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>>121704135
crit and alacrity. just go for like a 50/50 split on your augs and let your gear do the rest.

I don't really know people tell me to put more alacrity but I do it anyway even though I just want to go maximum crit lord.
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>>121704343
Concealment.

>>121704348
Theres no way it changed drastically with just the 4.0 change.
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>>121704352
The only reason you bring her on board is because Koth makes you, literally.
Knowing Bioware this means she's going to do some deus ex machina shit later on.
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>>121704467
Knowing Bioware they'll totally forget her by January
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>>121704352
Juat an offhamded comment about her being a really good engineer. I don't think they ever even needed her to fix a specific problem with the ship. As far as I can tell the only reason you HAVE to rescue her is Koth's decotion to his crew and their well-being. There really should have at least been an option to allow Tanno to kill her and then lie and said she was dead before you got there.
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>>121704613
As said earlier, I can totally see a Nox just zapping her shit dead once she pulls her "attitude" at him.
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>>121704546
More like
>forget she exists for four chapters
>oh hey guys we have to do something with her
>hey guys while I was doing nothing this whole I stumbled on this thing that teaches us how to fix the big button
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>>121704292
Isn't she basically what we must look like playing the smuggler who just has to mock and downplay everything before he starts blastin'?
Or this is a different stereotype?
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In times of conflict you need the occasional oddball among your Alliance, and that oddball is Tora.

Tora is love. Tora is life.
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I'm glad these characters are at least hateable, after DA:I and all of the side characters I forgot I at least feel some emotion towards these characters
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Tora is the key to all of this. If they get Tora working. Because she's a funnier character than they've ever had in the game before.
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Has anyone bought that new Outlander Pack on origin? 2 months and 1050 cc for 30 usd/cad
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>>121704976
>create gloryhole in dingy corner of Hylo's den
>lock her in there
>give her food and water if she sucks enough dicks that day

problem solved
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>>121705378
>Origin

No
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>>121704876
smuggler is not stupid, has a sense of humor and is charismatic
Tora is just dumb
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>>121704876
No, I was talking about the 'I'm 16 and I know everything' stereotype
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>>121704976
She's not an "oddball". She's some fucking abomination designed to piss off as many people as possible. There is no other explanation.
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>>121705378

Is that something you can only do with new accounts?
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>>121705163
Yeah well I started muttering "shut the fuck up Koth" whenever I was forced to speak to him and he said something usually dumb.
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>>121705971
I don't know, why I was asking.
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Jesus

Everyone but you is hilariously incompetent on jedi knight

If they just did their jobs properly there'd be no story
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>>121706273
Even you job hard at the end.
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>>121705723
She just has a big personality, Anon
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>>121706273
>meet up with SIS on Trooper story
>they're pretty damn efficient
>meet up with SIS on JK story
>jesus, who put this moron in charge of secret services?
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>>121706639
It's the same in places with imp intelligence
They're either hilariously incompetent or ruthless tacticians

I really wish bioware learnt how to write stories where competence isn't the player's key trait
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>>121706639
>meet up with SIS on IA
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>>121698307
>Cathar in imperial uniform
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>>121706757
The c@boi on Makeb
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What's the value of the Akk Dog companion?
I;d check the Auction house but new story has me sucked in
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>>121706747
>intelligence services are the only thing the Empire is vastly superior at than the Republic
>Sith shut it down

Classic.
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>>121706895
Like tens of millions
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>>121706757
>cathar
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>>121706932
Thank you friend
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ey guys. This is the results of the server census from Saturday 7/11/15 11pm.

http://strawpoll.me/5950593/r

and here is the new poll for

Sunday 08/11/15 - 12:00PM
http://strawpoll.me/5954683

If you don't already know, there is a community directory/index in the swtor pastebin to help connect the community.
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>>121707730
>tfw don't want to play alone
>tfw too beta to register
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So does anyone play on Progenitor not for ERP
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>>121707924
Me!

I haven't cybered since vanilla WoW. I'm just the coolest.
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>>121707918
you don't need to register. you can /whisper someone who has volunteered their information and is looking for friends.
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>want to RP the usual rascal with a heart of gold
>select smart ass answers
>they're delivered in a condescending, funny and/or aggressive tone
>select "I'll help you"
>they're delivered in a soft, smooth tone
Immersion ruined, thank BW.
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>>121707924
>ERP
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>>121708028
>whisper someone i absolutely don't know
y-yeah
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>>121702317

I don't even think the first chapter was that short... maybe it's just because the combat is boring
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>>121708416
That's kinda gay.
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>>121709186
It wasn't just one chapter in the initial release
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>>121709348
it's not gruff sweaty hairy bumsex gay but it's pretty gay
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>>121708002
Do you do ops/warzones?
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>>121709518

I meant the first part which is made of 9 chapters then
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>>121709613
>language just copies grammatical rules of english and only replaces the written letters.
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>>121706930
>trusting glowstick retards
>ever
>implying Kreia wasn't right
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>>121709613
>forget the space in 'no passion'
>copied in the aurebesh version

kek
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>>121709613
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
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>>121709793
But Kreia WAS a glowstick retard!
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>>121709613
isn't there an IRL jedi religion or some shit?
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>>121709961
not really. it's just a joke answer people would put on forms and larpers
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>my jedi is repeatedly getting tricked by imperial intelligence
>I can fucking see through all the ruses but there's no fucking option to act upon this
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>>121709961
Nah it's mainly just to fuck with the british census
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>>121710107
Your jedi is either David Hayter reading a script or an excited young girl so of course they're going to get tricked
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>>121709613
>>121709790
>>121709814
>>121709868
>>121709961
>there will never be a Force User that has mastered both Light and Dark sides of the Force in Equilibrium
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>>121709613
The jedi code doesn't make sense

The sith code is edgy, but at least it makes sense
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The original jedi code was better and the original dark jedi code
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>>121710517
The Sith code isn't even that edgy, the only edgy part is "Peace is a lie"
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>>121710517
The Dark Side usually and amazingly turns any dark side user into power hungry beings who utilize emotion and power to the point where the Force eats them from the inside out just to become stronger, very few can actually gain some control over the dark side, and could even become more powerful and dangerous because of their sheer willpower alone, don't ever fuck with people with gargantuan sized willpowers, they refuse to give a shit when they die in a fight even if it means going all out just to destroy you with everything they got, same goes for the Light Side as well.

or that's what I think of it anyways, but the dark side does destroy your being in exchange for power if you let it in without resistance.
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>>121710410
Isn't that what Luke turns out to be later, and Kyle?
There was also Revan, but the poor guy was never anything more than a failed experiment on the whole "bring balance to the Force" prophecy stuff.

>>121710517
It does make sense, but none of it can be achieved by an ordinary human.
Meanwhile, the Sith code is lying to you. Here you are breaking your chains and becoming uninhibited, and yet you end up chained to emotion anyway.
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>>121710410
>Sith using the symbol of Bendu, a religious order requiring self-discipline and advocating a smart use of emotions, only drawing on them when needed.
>Republic using a symbol similar to the Alliance Starbird, a symbol which the Rebellion picked in honor of Vader's apprentice, and also symbolizing the Rebellion's goal for the Republic to rise from the ashes of the Galactic Empire.

This is why you don't let interns create faction insignias.
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>>121711198
>Isn't that what Luke turns out to be later, and Kyle?

Luke simply realized that both Dark and Light must coexist to preserve balance in the galaxy and beyond, without either one, everything will fall into complete and utter destruction and chaos.

Both Dark and Light must constantly fight each other, embrace each other, hate each other, love each other, just to keep everything together to prevent complete and utter destruction of the universe and the Force itself, the Force IS Both Light and Dark combined after all.
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>>121711212
>a symbol which the Rebellion picked in honor of Vader's apprentice
Literally fuck off with that Force Unleashed trash's pitiful excuse for a plot point please m8
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>>121711535
eveything you wrote here is incorrect

you have zero idea about SW canon, not to mention you sound gay as fuck
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>>121711535
No, that's incorrect.

Luke realised that there is no such thing as the "dark side" and "light side" of the force. The force is neutral, natural.

The "dark side" and "light side" is simply how you use it, and how you view it.
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>>121711198
>>121711535
>>121711859
>>121711971
True Neutral all the way
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>>121711971
another retard

listen scrub, Lucas himself has said many times there is the Force and then there is the Dark Side

Force is a natural energy of the universe, it's balance, while Dark Side is a separate entity - it's an unnatural cancer that's parasitic towards Force

learn your Star Wars 101 before you post here retards
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>>121712194
but there's no neutral way. To be neutral in the force is to not use it.
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>>121711971
>Luke realised that there is no such thing as the "dark side" and "light side" of the force. The force is neutral, natural.

No wonder George Lucas got rid of this blasphemy
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>>121712424
Lucas is a fucking retard who can't comprehend anything that has shades of grey
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>>121711971
Luke just realised he didn't want anything the emperor was offering him.
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>>121706881
That one was pretty cool. I liked him.
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>>121712424
> Lucas himself has said

Your bait needs subtlety apprentice.
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>>121698307
good cat, dont listen to these muh head canon chiss babies
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>>121710219
>>121710107
I played all the way through JK and I don't even remember imperial intelligence showing up. Christ, republic stories are forfettable as fuck
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>>121712746
>scat cat
>good as any class, any faction, anywhere
kill yourself.
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>>121712765
Taris
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I fired up TOR again and Im running through newb land while it downloads.
Did they cut all the quests besides the story ones and the ones that give light side/dark side points or something?
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>>121712980
They hid them by default but you can turn them on again in the upper right of the map screen
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>>121712980
You can tick an option on your map to show exploration missions, which is where you'll find a lot of them that seem cut.

Don't need to do them though, just level off class quests, ones with purple markers and heroic quests (which are soloed easily)
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>>121712818
There's literally nothing wrong with cathar.

Cathar fit well as agents, bounty hunters, troopers and smugglers at very least. They also fit well as sith inquisitor given his slave background.
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>>121712765
Nar Shaddaa.
You get there, you contact the SIS in hopes of them helping you find this whole Power Guard project thing, and the first thing you get is one agitated agent telling the boss that there are signs their hiding place has been compromised. Said boss proceeds to go "It's ok, everything will be alright". Then the next time you visit the place, everyone's dead.
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>>121712424
Also there is no such thing as Light Side in canon, it was created in EU. In canon the existance of Light Side is redundant because Force = Light Side.

Fucking teenage scrubs putting their new age "muh neutrality, muh balance between light and dark" everywhere.
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>>121713159
100 replies incoming.
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>>121713159
Shouldn't you be cleaning your fursuit or something?
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>>121713159
Fit completely well as jedi, too.

Anything fits as jedi.
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>>121713159
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>>121713159
>There's literally nothing wrong with cathar.
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>>121713387
>chiss
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>best waifu in the game by miles
>no romance
>not even a real, full companion

Bioware why?

Do you enjoy watching me suffer?

Playable best race when?
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Now I feel like asking, what does a Togruta fit into aside of Force classes?
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>>121713159
They shouldn't even be a race.
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Saw this a couple of days ago. Was this one of you fags?
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>>121713880
An oven.
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>>121713159
Literally the fursona race of some kotor dev
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>>121713663
Oh yeah, they kill force-users or something right? That'd be a pretty big stretch. I mean, there could have been people that just left the ascendancy and have been making babies and living in republic space but that'd be a huge exception more than anything.
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>>121713930

+1
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>>121713880
Slavery.
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>>121713159
>There's literally nothing wrong with cathar.
I remember in KOTOR2 when they talked about Katarr being BTFO I hoped it was the home planet of the Cathar because Juhani was such a piece of shit.
I was very disappointed when I learned it was the Miraluka homeworld.
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>>121713846
I like her voice
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What's the fastest way to level up now?
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>>121714291
60 boost
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>>121707918
what server you on homie?
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>>121713159
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The room you fight Arcann for the second time in looks A LOT like one of the MP duelling maps of Jedi Academy.
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Hoth is beautiful
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>no qt cathar gf to blow a load in
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>>121714595
It's so dense
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>>121714643
It's like pottery
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>>121713339
>>121713986
4chan obsession with furries has gone too far desu
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>>121714435
oh god it's me in 30 years
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>>121714595
Your mother sells clocks in hell.
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>>121714946
Much like your obsession with anthromorphic animals
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>>121714327
Well that's not very helpful
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>battle with Arcann in Ch. 8
>I am really sick of being flung around like a ragdoll
>"Yo, my son is 2stronk. Let me help you."
>"Turnabout is fair play, let's do it"
>massive collateral damage ensues
This is not gonna fly well in the next Chapter, is it?
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>>121714291
Do heroics on each planet you get to and if you do the daily pvp quests while turning them in while you're still in a wz you'll get good xp. Solo flashpoints are boring but will give some good xp.
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>>121710765
Those discussions with Ashara were pretty interesting.
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>>121715457
I still don't get it how come is he so stronk that he flings the player-controlled force users around.
He sure as fuck shouldn't. He can be stronger and overpower them, that's fine. But the way it's shown it feels like the PC is level 1 and he's 60.
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Would a sith warrior wear robes or heavy armor?
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>>121715731
he's the son of the most powerful force entity in the known universe.
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>>121713159
Replace Agent with Jedi, in my opinion. Admittedly it just feels wrong hearing the Imperial accent from a cathar.
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>>121715731
He's the son of a Sith so incredibly, immeasurably powerful that he's been alive for thousands of years, can steal bodies, and was handpicked by Marka motherfucking Ragnos to become a Sith Lord and rule a planet after killing his Sith Lord father, at the age of 10.

And your character has been in cortosis for 5 years, imperfect cortisis constantly poisoning you.
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>>121715457
I was getting annoyed at that too, but then I got really mad when he took down HK. Anger made me press 2.

>>121715731
The power of cutscenes.
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>>121715828
Then why even bother with a fucking saber?
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>>121715731
>121715731
It's really just laziness on Bioware's side.
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>>121716067
why indeed.
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>>121715817
The latter
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>>121715973
>caring about babby-mode HK that gets upset when you tell him to kill people

There is nothing to HK droids besides edginess. Take that away from them and what's the point?

And being a mouthpiece for Revan in kotor2.
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>>121716067
>Valkorion blocking Arcann's strikes with his hand

because he isn't his father
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maximum 5 bays for legacy storage?!?! AHHHHH!!!!!
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>>121715828
>>121715963
see
>>121715973
>>121716097
it's literally kai leng all over again
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>>121715817
Depends on the particular Sith's preference.
Some Sith prefer overwhelming power, but since that doesn't leave much for defense, they wear powered armor. Also the choice if your Sith is heavily damaged from many fights and can't live without it anymore.
If he prefers surgical quick strikes, robes are a better alternative.
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>>121716361
>5 bays
>8 classes

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
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>>121715963
>>121715828
And who gives a fuck that he's a son of Vitiate? Like seriously, it doesn't mean he'll match him, just that he'll be strong.
Even the doofus that is JK kills the voice of the Emperor, who happens to be the puppet with most of Vitiate's power in it. Same goes for Consular and the First Son. Even Wrath has a fight with the Voice, and triumphs as per usual. Nox literally walks through force lightning of one of the members of the Dark Council.

There is literally no reason for any of them to be thrown around like ragdolls. Overpowered eventually, yes. But not with a flick of Arcann's hand and a ENOUGH.
That's a Vitiate tier move.
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>>121715817
Why not both?
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>>121716240
>gets upset when you tell him to kill people
Guess I'm not edgy enough, I don't remember ever telling him to do such a thing. Yet he has no qualms about thoroughly exterminating all invaders on the Gravestone and sending me holocalls informing me of the progress.
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>>121716443
I justified it in my head by saying that my character got a lot weaker after spending 5 years in imperfect, poisonous cortosis, unable to meditate or maintain a level of power while gradually degrading.
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>>121716579
If you tell him to kill the refugees he found in the swamp he will outright refuse unless you reprogrammed him
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>>121716403
as long as he doesn't send me an e-mail like

From: Your Waifu
Subject: I miss you lets meet

HaHAHahahHa IT IS ME ur evil nemeis ARCAAN. u r wurking wit my daddy but u will nvr defeat me XD my sisteri s coming to BEAT YOU UP. HaVe FUN being ALIVE because u will not be ALIVE much longer and I WILL KILL YOU DEAD LMAOFO
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>>121716626
Except you get better like right out of Zakuul. And you don't spend just 5 minutes before Arcann appears at the Asylum too.

Oh, also it's carbonite.
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Meanwhile Senya's beating Vaylin who's supposed to make Arcann look like a total chump.
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>>121716731
You get better, but 5 years while constantly suffering from the poison does a lot.

I think people are just too attached to their mary sue to accept someone being stronger.
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>>121715457
The silliest thing about that is that the light side choice is absolutely ridiculous.
You get impaled through the gut, a move that has killed everything and everyone in the movies, in others games, everywhere, and you just get up and walk it off.
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>>121716894
maybe qui gon was just a little bitch.
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>>121716851
A Mary Sue beating another Mary Sue who's literally possessed by another Mary Sue.

I don't even know anymore.
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>>121716894
It's funny how you get asked ''ey bruv how the fuck are you still alive'' and you can just tell them not to worry about it, one of the options is ''Probably Valk keeping me alive'' though, which makes sense.
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>>121716851
The force-sensitive mary sues, especially Sith ones, wouldn't really care about what state their body is in.
And even if the carbonite fucked you up there is no reason at all to be a lvl 3 to Arcann's lvl 65 in the cutscenes.
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>>121716894
>accepted vitiates power while fighting the knights, in character to measure how strong he was after being killed so I can plan accordingly

>picked light side for the two choices after
>told me vitiate has too much power over me for me to refuse and did the dark side option for arcann

Whoops
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>>121715001
That's the thing, I'm not. My only non-human characters are either chiss or pureblood sith. I was merely pointing out that cathar is perfectly valid choice for majority of player classes.
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>>121717037
5 years without any practice, meditation, combat, anything.

Every Jedi who spent a long time doing little or no training weakens significantly in cnaon, it's something you have to maintain, and your character has been completely inactive for half a decade.
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>>121715828

So, in game our protagonists assume that Valkorion is Vitiate's real body. But in the Sacrifice trailer, it's shown that when Arcann and Thexan were children, Valkorion had darker hair, implying he aged normally as a human would during his children's lifetimes. If that's the case, he can't be hundreds of years old. I'd say Valk was just another Voice/host/whatever that Vitiate was using.
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>>121716851
>I think people are just too attached to their mary sue to accept someone being stronger.
This, noxfags being the worst of them.
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>>121716725
Stop giving the development team ideas lad.
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>>121717292
Which doesn't matter in any way since you were literally frozen in time. The only thing actually weakening you is the carbonite poisoning. No time passed for your character. You are exactly the same as you were before being frozen. That's the point of carbonite.
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>>121717292
Frozen in carbonite, dude.

You'd assume the weakening comes more from an erosion of spirit or body that comes from being an apathetic sack of shit. You don't get that if you basically fall asleep for 5 years in way that doesn't cause muscle atrophy.
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>>121717342
I think you're giving it more thought than Bioware did.
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>>121717092
That can happen?
I only took his shortcut once when I thought Lana was gonna die, but could still choose what to do against Arcann.

As an aside, I see Valyn is allowed to have hair with hooded robe. Possible change for future models? Cartel Market sale of her armor set with hair included?
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>>121717292
Except you didn't sit on your ass, you were frozen and unconscious. So after you're out of the carbonite and walk it off, it's like only a day or two have passed.
Which is no reason at all to get thrown around by some faggot, poisoning or not.
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>>121717426
It doesn't stop time, you just enter suspended animation. You're not maintaining your connection to the force, so it weakens. Enough for someone who is more powerful than you pre-carbonite to overpower you.
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>>121717587
Yes but you get her hair.
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