Peace, friendship & goodwill to all posters edition.
>What the fuck is this?
A general for all the realistic wargames out there that don't generate enough traffic to sustain their own generals.
>Old thread
>>121192815
>Attention grabbing search terms go here:
/wgg/, /fsg/, /mowg/, /mowassg/, /rtsg/, /ctag/, /dcsg/
>Example welcome games:
Wargame: Red Dragon
Combat Mission
Call to Arms
Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm
Graviteam Tactics
DCS: World
Theatre of War
Men of War
Falcon BMS
Command: Modern Air Naval Operations
Armored Brigade
Close Combat
Steel Beasts
Steel Panthers MBT
>Graviteam DLC:
http://pastebin.com/TwMLZQ6h
>Interesting history links:
Cold War military technology ads:
http://www.vintageadbrowser.com/military-ads-1980s
/wgg/ misc Cold War literature:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zfm69f0k91pmf0y/wgg-lit-v1.3.rar
The Soviet Army: troops, organization & equipment
http://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm100-2-3.pdf
USMC intelligence North Korea handbook:
http://fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/nkor.pdf
>Steamgroups:
/wgg/ old group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/VG-Wargamers
/wgg/ new group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dedgamededthread
Uralmod official group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Uralgraznomod
/wgg/ Men of War / Call to Arms Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ReReaGa
/fsg/ group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral
>Teamspeak server
uralmod.typefrag.com:7495
>Legacy Wargame General pasta and game-info repository:
http://pastebin.com/70Nwcb5m
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lon0cgmjfqwq1oi/WargameRD_Hidden_Knowledge_Spreadsheet.xlsx?dl=0
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UvBiH3lrCFzLYnRzNzF49yVtaNHYLfi7dgMpNE517RM/
planes
>general for 7 different games
>it's dead
>>121571485
Tired meme desu.
>hurrr what is bump limit
>>121571485
Most of those games are sp and have already been discussed in the past, not much to add, wargame gets a patch per year
>>121571485
we're still not gonna accept a3g
Any good wargames that portray battles between shit-tier armies? it's always interesting to see two tin-can poor countries with hand-me-down gear fighting one another
>>121571995
Doesn't graviteam have campaigns like that?
-part of an AAR of the best wargame there is
note: not mine
>>121573316
>>121573409
>>121573501
>>121573586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dti0xHqDqKA
Still trying to set the joystick for this game. Too jittery at the moment
>>121573680
>>>/trash/666
>tfw no crni bombarder
Hide planefag threads.
Ignore Planefag posts.
Do not respond to Planefags.
>>121579157
<< DID ANYONE SEE YELLOW 4 GET OUT? >>
>>121571995
Mod CMSF. There's one for Libya, another for Mali/Africa. Red v Red will be good for anything with old Soviet era gear. The Scenario Editor is pretty good, although it's still on v1.0 of the engine, unlike anything CMBN or later, which is 3.0.
For shit tier tin can tanks play CMFI as the Italians
Watch out, rareFoxbatcoming thru.
>>121583954
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2545727&postcount=442
Okay boys, get googl'in if you want to know the capabilities of DCS:F-5E
>>121584094
>F-5
>not MiG-21 food
Heh
>>121584094
>tfw no F-5EM
>>121577141
Wow. Wait which one is Hachi Nana again?
>>121585727
It's a 25pt autocannon vehicle.
There's literally nothing wrong with being on hoggit
>>121586460
>>121587108
>hoggit gets a live training session with a fighter pilot who flew one of the F-5s in fucking top gun
>meanwhile in /wgg/
>>121587225
>>121587225
>>121587225
>>121587225
>F-5 Top gun
yeah and i'm fucking pugachev.
>>121588315are you on top or bottom usually?
>>121588315
http://www.amazon.com/Topgun-Days-Dogfighting-Cheating-Hollywood-ebook/dp/B00HQLZVYQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1433094005&sr=1-1&keywords=topgun+days
that's the dude
>>121588509
coolio then, but unless he's teaching them mad WVR and BVR
>He wont say anything BVR
everything else can be learned from a book.
>>121587225
While i'll admit that's pretty cool it doesn't really matter in the end.
>>121587225
Who needs this faggot when you have Tony Vulovic?
ITT post meme units desu senpai
>>121592436
i would've expected you to choose vdv90, zhalo, strela 1 or hachinana
>>121592436
# Filter all tripfags
>>121592830
VDV 90 are meme as fuk
DCS: MiG-23/27 WHEN
DCS: AFGHAN 79-89 WHEN
DCS: 3RD GEN FIGHTERS WHEN
>>121573773
I'd really like the free version of that game, but the link from their website is down, can you provide kind anon, it looks damn interesting.
>>121587225
>Fighter Pilot who flew in a movie
>Meanwhile /wgg/ has an active duty Brazilian Spec Op/Astronaut/F-35 Test Pilot that is always looking to give a helping hand
Nice try hoggit. Maybe next time you talk shit you should look up Tony Kito
Okay wgg. I think I know what I am going to do for my joystick situation.
I was browsing around my local store's website and learned that the X-55 is $10 more than the X-52 pro. I watched ralfi's review, and I think I can deal with the problems he has with it.
The stick is out of stock, though.
I also saw the thrust master T16KM on the site, and I heard that one was crazy accurate.
It's on special order.
I think I might wait until black Friday and see what is available, but at that point, if the warthog goes under $450 I may seriously consider it. I hear it's pretty fatiguing for games like elite, though.
It's on special order.
>>121597235
Is there a reason you aren't using amazon?
>>121597235
Get the x55, the thing with the x52 is it's a blind buy it may be amazing or it may be a piece of shit that never works well.
>>121597713
Prolly yurop
>>121597713
not him but Amazon is shit expensive for things like sticks.
I found the X-52 Pro for £99 elsewhere where on Amazon it's like £130
>>121597235
>I hear it's pretty fatiguing for games like elite, though.
Think of it as getting swole while flying.
>>121597713
>>121597902
Canada.
But the real reason is that I only have a debit card, so I can't buy anything online. I usually just buy $100 prepaid cards if I need something like steam games.
I mean I could go out and get a credit card, and it'd be awfully convenient for big purchases like this, but even then, I feel a lot more comfortable buying local. Even if it's just for the risk that if I have to do an RMA, the waiting period isn't as long.
>>121597972
This too. I think I'm going to have to use amazon if I want to get one of those fancy stereo-input digital audio recorders. It seems to be the only place to find them.
>>121599150
That's a good way of thinking about it.
>>121600832
>can't use a debit card online
What a strange place America is.
What is wargame4 going to look like?
>>121601060
I'm Canadian too, I ended up buying my x-55 from Canada computers for about as much as the Amazon price
>>121600832
What?
>>121602865
More like memes lmao
MEME UNIT
E
M
E
U
N
I
T
How come the T-72B is better than the T-72A but the T-80B is worse than the T-80A?
>>121605938
T-80B came before T-80A
>>121605938
How come redfor is reliant on meme units to win games?
>>121605365
I kind of despise what you're doing to this general but on the other hand I chuckled. Thank you for identifying these meme units for us.
>>121600832
I buy most things online with my debit card. I don't think I've ever been in a situation where I was required to use my credit card to buy shit online. That includes places like Amazon and Newegg.
>>121607072
Not guy you responded too but my debit doesn't work for many online purchases (I just have a regular Royal Bank of Canada debit with the chip and shit) so I got a virtual visa debit instead.
You can use it anywhere visa is taken without the risk of overspending like an actual credit card has, it's pretty nice.
Sadly it can't be used for gambling so i need to get prepaid cards for poker stars
>>121597235
I have a complicated relationship with the X-55. I used my X-52 for years before "upgrading" to the X-55. The TL;DR is that it's an ergonomic fuck you, but a large functional upgrade. The X-52 has all of its buttons in easy reach and is very comfortable and light. If you have big hands, the X-55's ergonomic problems are minimzed, but it doesn't stop them from being fucktardedly stupid.
I can write all day about how fucking stupid the ergonomics on the throttle are. The stick's not too bad, mostly because it's still based on the F-16 stick, just in a stupider way that makes it feel worse.
As much as I'd like to go back to my X-52, I'd be giving up too many buttons on the X-55. When you're flying the complicated stuff like the A-10 and F-16, you're going to want something that maps reasonably close to the real thing, and the X-55 does a pretty good job of being close to the real thing. Although, it's still not 1:1 and is missing a few buttons, mainly the two stage trigger and CMS hat. The CMS hat is just a single button on the X-55.
Oh, and if you get an X-55, use the lightest spring. Anything more and you get stiction like fuck. Get some vaseline and lube that shaft up too. It makes a night and day difference in smoothness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAXTHaa1G0k
>>121607435
I guess it's a Canada thing.
r8 h8 appreci8. do pretty well with this deck but how could i make it better?
I don't get it
planeposters are among the most autistic group of gamers, willing to throw a LOT of money at peripherals
So why is no company making a good hotas
>>121597235
Keep in mind that the Warthog doesn't have a twist axis. You'll need to buy pedals if you go with a Warthog, otherwise you'll be without a rudder.
>>121608230
>If you have big hands, the X-55's ergonomic problems are minimzed
Curse my little girl hands!
I find it funny how almost no reviews on the X-55 mention the clusterfuck on the stick.
>hey, I got this X-55 to review from Saitek
>now I'm not saying it because they sent it to me BUT BUY IT IS SO AWESOME
If anything, they even commend the ergonomics.
is it true that the 55 doesn't have a dual stage trigger
cause that'd be funny as fuck
>>121609274
You may start giggling uncontrollably.
How do I fix this piece of shit DCS?
I keep getting error 503 on my desktop running both stable and beta builds.
I've tried running it on my laptop using the same router using the exact same software setup as my desktop and it works fine.
>>121609167
According to the X-55, I have small hands too, so I got some foam and made a pad to basically raise the handrest. Works great for me and minimizes a lot of the stupidity on the stick.
>>121609274
It doesn't. I thought this would be my biggest problem with it coming from the X-52, but there are so much worse problems with it than that.
Man even the warthog is utter shit
Sure, outside looks good with all that metal, but the insides are cheap as fuck and bound to break sooner or later, meaning you'll have to deal with thrustmaster flat out refusing warranty support
>>121606454
>>121606627
>implying I'm uuuuuu
>>121608762
drop a card of logistics
no reason for iglas not to be in BTR-70s
VDV are in worst transport
AA is shit
basically you need more meme units all around
OH SHIT NIGGERS
DCS BETA UPDATE
KILLEVENTS AND SCORES WORK NOW
>>121609467
>>121609962
>beta update fixed it somehow even though I didn't change anything
>it was broken in 1.2.16 too
Now I'm completely confused.
>>121609595
>and made a pad to basically raise the handrest
Yeah, I was actually thinking about potentially doing that.
I'm still somewhat worried about the placement of the two hat switches on the right.
It's infuriating that basically all stick choices have some annoying drawbacks.
>>121609962
>1 GB update
>No changelog
>>121610884
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2546251&postcount=7
>>121608762
>supply helo
>base igla
>mi-8t
>bmd-1p
>no long range anti-helo
>t-80b
>plamya
>razvedka
>mi-24a
>bmpt
>both akula and mi-28
>mi-27k
>su-27s
>naval
is this b8
>Added NDB and RSBN icons on F10 map.
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
THANK YOU ED
I MEAN THIS SHOULD'VE BEEN DONE 10 YEARS AGO BUT THANK YOU
>>121610730
After making the pad, they're fine and I haven't had any issues with them.
>>121610971
>1 GB of bugfixes
wow
>>121611146
What are those
>>121610971
I wonder if they fixed the render issue when using multiple monitors
OY VEY
YOU SHOULD HAVE KILLED AT LEAST 6 GOYRILLION
>>121611146
Model visibility settings have changed dramatically in this patch. Across the board, it should be much easier to see targets.
>Maxsize for all values is now 20 from 24
>Small preset minsize is now 6.0 from 3.0
>Medium preset minsize is now 8.0 from 5.0
>Large preset (new) minsize is 10.0
>alphaExp is 0.0 now for all settings (was 0.5 for small, 0.25 for medium)
These new values are so dramatic that it makes me wonder if something else in visibility rendering system changed. In the old system 10 was pretty damn big.
>>121613118
yes
YES
>>121613118
SOMEBODY CHECK SPECIAL OPTIONS
PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT CUSTOM COCKPIT SELECTORS
NEED
FUCKING
CONFIRMATION
>>121613584
Oh fuck, still downloading because >BR internet
>mfw
I haven't played this game in about 5 months and I have Uralmod installed, what have I missed?
>MiG-29 Fuel gauge fixed
>It now displays max range with used RPM setting
>mfw
How to make /wgg/ 10x better
>>121614205
Why don't they put this shit in the changelog
>>121611146
The fuck does that mean
>>121615492
>>121612325
navbeacons used in the mi8, huey, a10c, mig21 and others
scrubs do you even plane
>update DCS
>Mig-21 needs reactivation due to significant hardware changes or some shit
>>121613584
Confirmed.
>>121615817
Oh
SHIT
YES
>>121615817
OH SNAP
>>121616072
>>121616207
It did fuck up my blue hd Ka-50 cockpit though, but eh. Small price. It should be even easier to get it reinstalled.
Fuck, these new visibility settings are so good. It's like BMS level spotting. I was fucking shit up in my little MiG-29 in the TAW server just by seeing people and only using EOS.
Hell, I could often see them before the EOS did.
>>121619270
Does this mean I can actually fucking spot ground units in my su-25?
>>121619771
You could before.
>*Some small fixes and features isn't mentioned in the log.
Cheeky cykas.
https://youtu.be/T3-SS3le9o4?t=8m28s
>that shkval resolution
Holy shit.
>>121619838
If they're in a convoy line sure. Otherwise on full graphics settings if they're scattered seems like you can't see shit
>>121620272
In 1.5 they're massive black blobs that can be seen from forever away what are you talking about?
>>121619771
The further away they are, the easier they are to see. As much as I love these settings, I doubt they're going to stay because they emphasize the imposter system's flaws.
how is Red dragon? A friend is playing it and I'm unsure if I want to get it
>>121621653
NIGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>121621653
>>121622204
This image provides more and more joy the more I read
is that what I would be getting myself into with the game
Anyone play FlightGear?
pretty comfy
Why Wargame Red Dragon doesn't have user made maps or map editing tools? Is Eugen that much of a massive faggot?
>>121623589
Eugen's own maps are already bugged. Do you want unplayable maps?
>>121623112
Pretty much.
>>121623686
>implying that modders can't fix the game
Lad in pretty much every moddable game the community fixes the stuff developers couldn't made right.
>>121624375
>Lad in pretty much every moddable game
This is Wargame.
>>121613118
>104th fags gonna be even more butt blasted now that they can't disable it in their server settings
>mfw they'll be double ass blasted if the replays work reliably because then people can reliably tacview shit
>>121624743
And this is what triggers me. The player base would've been much bigger if the devs allowed the users to mod the game and create new factions, maps, units, countries, etc. They are legitimate keks to be honest.
>>121584406
Not with Kazuma in the seat.
>>121609167
I have man hands and it isn't a problem for me at all. In fact, X55 has been my favorite stick thus far. It's a little unconventional, but when you get used to it it's pretty money. Especially in Elite Dangerous.
>>121626347
maybe the engine is so fucked up it's not very moddable friendly. I don't know
More servers should be US vs Russia.
>>121629036
what's that allow selected / deny all thingy
>>121629005
Considering they can't edit their own maps beyond moving zones around, yeah, it's fucked up.
>>121629036
>But m-muh F-15.
>M-muh Red Flag.
>M-muh America.
104th's playerbase pretty much makes hi-pop East V West servers impossible
>>121630095
Good to see that TAW and 154 is taking over.
Fuck 104
can somebody explain the server "cultures" to a newb like me?
104th seems to be clusterfuck team deathmatch from what I can tell, what do TAW, 154 and MD-Sim have going for them?
>>121630583
104th is full of faggot tryhards, the others not so much
>>121629827
>they can't edit their own maps
Source on this? Not doubting you but it would make for a hilarious read.
>>121631608
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WGV1/discussions/0/490124466458448237/
second post by FLX
Also, for highway, I think FLX said on the forums that they will fix the bugged bridge spawn not by removing the bridge but by cutting the road short or disabling the pathfinding for it, which makes it even less clear what they can and can't do.
I'm not aware of an article detailing the entire mapmaking process though.
>>121632842
I don't remember being invited to this steamgroup when i was in the Top10 ranked.
>>121629237
I'm not sure. It seems broken either way. My guess is it's related to multi-crew and requesting seats.
>>121632842
It's like the current devs took over the work of others and aren't smart enough to figure out how the code work.
>>121633440
It looks more like a workload issue where minor terrain changes somehow require major effort.
Wasn't there some story behind how eugen came to be, I read something about them being paid to make the engine for someone else and then taking off with it and making RUSE/wargame?
>>121624881
>104th fags gonna be even more butt blasted now that they can't disable it in their server settings
Don't count on it staying that way. Now that it's in gameplay options it's only a matter of time before it becomes a server/mission overrideable setting.
>>121632842
>the dev team is so shit they can't understand their own engine nor make modding possible
>>121634715
Paradox are just lazy jews where 4/5ths of the features come out 2 years after release.
>>121634715
And they outsource the modeling to some other company
its like a company of 2 devs and 2 community managers
>>121633197
Maybe you're annoying
>>121608932
>So why is no company making a good hotas
More like why is no company making a good HOTAS that doesn't cost you a eye and a kidney. The answer is that there are few of us planefags and not much profit to make. Therefore, kikes.
post good decks
>>121636000
Maybe this group wasn't made until recently.
Maybe i am incredibly annoying. I did call madmatt an assblasted faggot that couldn't control his pathological lying.
>>121636340
>>121636351
The group was made by patton in an attempt to get more leverage for balance changes, so this has less to do with madfag and more to do with patton inviting only the good players he's in touch with.
>>121636652
>that recon
>Stop playing danger zone
>Get banned anyway
>Come back playing I Don't Give a Fuck
>Get banned instantly
Sometimes the socks just can't win baka
>>121637043
full of fantasy units
>>121637407
>Being a soggy sock
>Canada is America
I've fucking had it. Don't go on teamspeak tomorrow
>>121584094
Does that mean that DCS' F-5 will be able to use at least Sparrows?
>>121630095
>>121630395
Yea because servers with 20 blue f-15s and two red su-27s is loads of fun right?
>>121640183
That's not how it was on the TAW server earlier. Teams were even,but the Su-27s and MiG-29s dominated the scoreboard.
>>121636652
>vetting the bradley
>amx13
>m36
>those planes
>>121640371
That's becauseF-15 pilots are fucking retards in DCS
>>121640620
>>121640620
F-15 is a thinking man's plane. It takes years of practice to hone your skills to play to your strengths and avoid WVR combat
Flanker and Fulcrum pilots are all retards. You don't have to worry about energy because your plane turns on a dime, and the R-73 means you don't even have to point your nose at the target. No skill required whatsoever
ITT: Post memes
>>121640371
TAW servers run 104th missions as well, so it's basically the same.
>>121641406
>>121640620
>Arguing over who is the biggest retard in babby cliffs aircraft
>>121642042
>Arguing
?
>>121642042
Do you understand english?
Goddamn ED
>>121636921
>patton
The reddit patton? who the fuck takes that retarded nigger seriously?
>>121644308
Anyone else getting horrible speeds from the DCS updater?
>>121645014
Yeah ED's file servers are pretty damn bad
>>121641407
It's decent when you can actually use the atgm(but that again just take T72B or T72M1M for cheap svir). But just gets morale stunlocked and misses constantly when in the gun range of any comparable hato tank.
>>121645281
>replying to retards
>>121645281
>hato
Why are they called that?
>>121645407
Kill yourself, faggot.
>>121645521
нaтo
>>121645521
Latin H = Cyrillic n.
>>121645521
Play of word with haters, also cyrillic n.
>>121644959
Eugen devs apparently.
>>121645628
>>121645645
>>121645796
Well I feel distinctly dumb now. Thanks.
>Ground AI units now can path find around obstacles.
>Ground AI units now can path find around obstacles.
>Ground AI units now can path find around obstacles.
>Ground AI units now can path find around obstacles.
Might finally start making more missions. The amount of failsafes and backup triggers I had to make in a simple convoy protection/escort mission was obscene, just because every 30m there'd be a 10% chance they'd get stuck on absolutely nothing.
>>121647137
>Ground AI units now can path find around obstacles.
You'd think that shit would've made it in in fucking FC1.
>>121647267
>Slavs
>Competent
))))))))))))))) IS OF NOT IN SOVIET MANUAL IS OF NOT DONE TOVARISCH )))))))
>>121645014
>>121645226
Sounds like their servers need to justtrim it out
>page 10
>captcha: airplanes
men of war has the best campaign in the entire rts genre
>>121654861
With tanks like this we will go all the way to berlin.
>tfw no F-15E
>>121655586
BMS 4.33 has a pretty well modelled F-15E.
>tfw no f22
>>121657375
Wish it was in DCS though, BMS is too much of a hassle to get into for me.
>>121657736
It's not too bad honestly, took me a couple of hours to get the basics down and after that its just learn as you go really. If you're interested in the F-15E its a little easier as well since it's a bit simpler.
All that being said, I think I much prefer the F-18 over the F-15E, mainly because carrier launches and traps are fun as fuck.
>>121658445
>traps are fun as fuck
>>121658445
How is the singleplayer and AI in it though, my main issue is getting the friend I play DCS with to attempt moving over as well. Also, how active is the MP scene in terms of A2A combat?
>>121658445
Wow anon that's pretty gay.
>>121658445
>traps are fun as fuck
>>121660489
What is the Phantom's face for anyway? I assume the eyes are RWR receivers, but what's the grin for?
>>121640620
>The more accessible plane has many more newer players using it.
It also helps that the SU-27 has a decided advantage in close combat, and newer players cannot in2BVR or playing into the strengths of the F-15. They're both equal but different planes, and unfortunately newer pilots don't really take advantage of what the F-15 is designed for because they get pulled in by it's ease of electronics use.
>>121659969
The singleplayer is better than DCS by a VERY big margin. The Dynamic Campaign is very likely the only one of its kind, even today. I know DCS has Dynamic Campaigns too, but they're not even close to the BMS one, which is basically simulating a real war.
The MP is also very active, check out Falcon Online, or if you're willing to put up with SA, the 420th fighter squadron is actually a pretty fun bunch of guys to fly with. Falcon Online runs events pretty often, like Red Flag, or Battle for Sinai, etc.
I think this sums it up nicely actually.
"DCS is like that really hot guy with a great body who's never had sex before, so he doesn't know what to do with his hands and blows his load in ten seconds so the fun ends quickly.
BMS is a guy who's been having sex for fifteen years and knows a million ways to surprise you and keep it fresh in the bedroom. But he's not very good looking and sometimes looses consciousness for no reason.
DCS is a pretty good looking game but the static packaged missions are fun once and you eventually run out of them. The dynamic campaign engine in Falcon is it's killer feature. Every game progresses differently; every mission proceeds differently; and you can watch this massive war going on all around you and you're just one dude stuck in it."
>>121660489
>>121660210
>>121658778
fug u guys I'm just a fan of catching some wires with my hook ya feel?
>>121657715
I just want my F-22 vs Su-47 dreams to come real.
>>121660954Confirmed gay.
>>121660954
>The Dynamic Campaign is very likely the only one of its kind
How does it hold up to IL-2 mods?
Are there any good air sims that have modern shit but isn't an ultra uber sim?
Something like IL-2 1946 levels of simulator.
Are there any mods for IL-2 1946 that adds decent jets with AA missiles and shit like that?
>>121661228
Far better. I'll give a little example why.
Lets say there's a nasty SAM nest that's been giving you some trouble. What you can do is destroy the factory behind enemy lines that is supplying missiles.
So now you take a DEAD (Destruction of Enemy Air Defences, as opposed to Suppression of Enemy Air Defences) mission to take out that nest. Since the site no longer has supplies coming, you schedule a flight or 2 of AI weasels to bait out SAM launches and deplete their supplies. Then you follow up and take out the now defenceless SAMs with CBUs and an AGM-88 or 2 just in case.
>>121657375
you mean F-16C with F-15E skin on top, no?
>>121661803
Essentially, yes. But it works like an F-15E, just without the second pilot.
>>121661673
You're literally describing DCS's FC3 modules
>>121661902
Hmm, I see. I've been trying to give BMS a chance after criticizing it badly and I've been starting to enjoy it thoroughly.
I'm still training and getting the hangs of the F-16, which would probably be the only thing I'm flying since I fucking love that plane. Can you recommend any training material like youtube videos or whatever which apply to BMS 4.33?
>>121661673
>that adds decent jets with AA missiles and shit like that?
What do you mean by decent jets? CUP has a dedicated Jet Age part, though that's mostly up to third gen iirc. You can still have some 4th gen stuff though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnd9dseGA9w
Also Flaming Cliffs 3 in DCS is anything but an uber sim. You can learn the startup and takeoff in a manner of minutes, and the rest isn't harder either (as in shooting stuff down), although it does take a while to get good obviously.
Dogfight night was a good time. Post some webms please, if I record while hosting my computer absolutely shits itself
>>121662318
>Learn startup
>FC3
You literally just have to press right windows + home
>>121662262
>105mm a shit
>Dragon a shit
>TOW before the I-TOW a shit
who woulda thought
>>121662318
>What do you mean by decent jets?
as in not quality shit models.
I'll look into FC3, I've always had the idea that it was one of the ultrasim things
thanks.
>>121662543
>You literally just have to press right windows + home
Senpai, that doesn't contradict what I've said.
>startup and takeoff in a manner of minutes
As in get that bitch started up, taxi and become SAM food.
>>121662643
Theres also Strike Fighters 2, bit less complex than FC3, but it has no multiplayer
>>121662284
Honestly the BMS 4.33 manual is great. Start by reading the training manual and going through the training missions with it, preferably on a second screen or tablet or whatever.
Other than that, Krause's tutorials on Youtube are pretty good, but some of the tutorials are out of date now, specifically the Maverick one if I recall correctly.
*muffled allahu ackbar in the distance*
>>121660954
>The dynamic campaign engine in Falcon is it's killer feature.
I heard that some Falcon dev said nobody actually understands how it works and why it's so good
>>121662865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSvlaRr9HxE
>>121662865
that happened like 6 fucking times
>>121662865
Hey kid you uh, got any of those webms?
>>121663043
Yeah that sounds accurate. It's so complex that I doubt anyone really knew exactly how it worked.
But holy fuck it works so well that I don't even care how it works lol
>>121662643
>as in not quality shit models.
There's plenty then.
>ultrasim
Those are the full fidelity modules like the A-10C, Ka-50, Mig-21, etc. FC3 evolved from a very arcade game and while it got plenty of chemo it really isn't hard to manage.
This is now a wargame chat meme thread
>not having these 3 autists blocked
>>121662643
FC3 sounds exactly like what you want. We've been flying DCS coop nights near daily, we could teach you a thing or two when we aren't doing this >>121662865 bullshit
>>121663246
My recording software fucked up and the video file I saved is super stuttery for some reason. I could make a Webm but it would look like as.
>>121662865
StimpackInChargeOfAirTrafficControl.png
So I just got Men Of War: Assault Squad and it's downloading right now, how different is it from Company of Heroes?
>>121665318
Quite different, only thing that really carries over direct is the need for people to fucking understand that they need both AP and AT on the field at all times.
>>121659969
Falcon's dynamic campaign is why everybody is always whining about how DCS singleplayer sucks ass and are always telling ED to make a dynamic campaign.
There's nothing else like it, and it's a large part of why Falcon is still relevant today.
>>121665318
A lotMost unit controls are even more clunky than CoH, although you can do a lot more micro managing
I did it anyways. Sorry for the quality.
>>121665413
>AP and AT
That means Anti-Personnel and Anti-Tank, right?
>>121665428How micro, exactly?
>>121663638
Now that DCS is getting support for multi-crew craft I really wish we'd get this plane in the game.
>>121665583
>Apologizing
Rudmere detected
>>121660954
The analogy I've always used when comparing DCS to Falcon BMS is that you play DCS to pretend to fly a fighter jet. You play Falcon BMS to pretend you are a fighter pilot.
>>121665602
yeah. A lot easier to have some last ditch AT in MoW than in CoH though, also did you get AS2 or some other mow?
>>121665602
You can do direct control of units and do a sort of third person controlling when they fire, how they move, etc (works best with vehicles really and towed/carried weapons). There's also more in the way of options available to units like smoke, at grenades, frag grenades.
There's also refueling of vehicles by manually getting an infantry man to carry a jerry can back and forth as well as rearming vehicles by dragging shells from a stash into the vehicle's inventory, etc...
Basically, everything that can be fired, or set (such as tank traps, mines, sandbags) need to all be managed in the inventory of units and they can run out.
>>121665820
Nah, only the first one because it was in a bundle.I just wanted Blackguards but noooo
>>121665985
>manual re-arming
Goddamn, is this game made for South Koreans or something?
Also, thanks for the info so far.
>>121666458
>is this game made for South Koreans or something?
I kind of wish it was
Unit movement AI is pretty bad and generally has a mind of its own. You tell a unit to move a direction and a lot of the time it goes somewhere elsewhich means you need to do manual direct control just to have them go where you clicked.
The UI elements for setting up traps or sandbags and moving stuff around inventories is also atrociously bad and clunky and you often have to drag an item multiple times for it to actually move around or click a button multiple times for it to do what you want.
>fly under a bridge
>high speed river chase with two niggas in tow
>ebin 3-way ensues, shit like this happens
>>121666458
You can get AS2 on kinguin fairly cheap, if you feel like doing multiplayer at some point.
>>121667142
>Actually using the cobra in combat
I'm impressed.
>>121667596
I was abusing the fuck out of the cobra. Su-27 got mad-ass maneuverability, you best be using it
It's how I shook them both and got the kills
>>121666850
Alright, so what makes it worth wading through all the clunkiness? Is there a certain mindset I need to properly enjoy it?
>>121667506
Another time perhaps, money's being tight right now.
>>121667705
>>121667596
based
>>121668397
I mostly enjoyed it with the coop missions you can find on the workshop playing with friends
Even if it's clunky, it's still fun for a while
>>121669479
uralmod is back?
>>121669856
yes
>>121670016
>usable mig-29s
usable f-16s where?
>>121669473
Nice. I think I'll make everyone's smoke colours different for next time
>>121670078
right here
>>121669473
>>121669473
>that near-collision
beta soon, just need to finish plane avails and the new cat B/C (1986 for C, 1991 for B)
