Today's the day
>What is Heroes of the Storm?
An Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides developed by Blizzard Entertainment.
>What makes Heroes of the Storm different from other already known and popular MOBAs?
Matches last 15-25 minutes, Item system replaced with Talents, focus on objectives and team fights.
>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/
>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.
>FAQ | Tips & Tricks - Check before posting questions.
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
Free Hero Rotation: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/free-hero-rotation
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator
Steam Group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HotSG
Old Thread: >>121347624
For lunara!
>>121468352
Where's the bulge?
second for clobberin' time soon
Where the fuck do you find all this shitty hots fanart?
At least Cho'gall...
>>121468439
there wouldn't be a bulge you dummy, she's hanging loose
>>121468510
I just dig around places like deviantart and boogle images and save whatever looks funny
Li Li a best.
>>121468625
>I just dig around places like deviantart and boogle images and save whatever looks funny
Always a good thing. I loved going through their contest entries.
I was actually going to draw something for it
Who the fuck is lunara?
>>121468843
What is she doing on the floor like that?
>>121468919
walkin the dinosaur
>>121468913
VIKINGS
>Dude lol how do I use a sniper rifle
Also that Li Li.
>>121468914
A character name made up by a single redditor.
>>121469097
if this was accurate fan art, Nova would be dead and in timeout.
>>121469034
ASS
EMBLE
>>121469121
I'm sticking with Lunara
>>121469034
ASS
EMBLE
>>121468914
Just a random name given to an offensive caster Dryad
has anyone made a reaction image of this Li Li?
It's too cute.
>>121469175
The dryad part was also made up. I too would like one, but someone like Cenarius is more likely.
And neither are announced today.
reminder to purchase the best support
>>121469148
>teamfight over tribute
>nova over in fuckoffity land
accurate enough
>>121469196
Stop that. We neither know if there even is a Lunara nor which franchise she's from nor her race.
>>121469335
I know and you will when it's announced.
She'll just drop lasers from the sky and completely miss as usual.
>>121469368
so what are the new maps
swimsuits when
>>121469380
ment for
>>121469264
>>121469097
you can just hear li li being like "nova what the fuck--" just as she gets pulled back
I love this piece so much.
Anyway, what do you guys want from the HOTS panel? Any type of new features?
>>121469669
The people that saw the rehearsal said that free rotation is being amped from 7 heroes to 10.
How does that make /hotsg/ feel?
>>121469715
That's pretty good.
post more terrible art
>>121469669
Very interesting yaoi you got there sempai.
DIABLO 2 ACT BOSSES WHEN
>>121469715
There was data for an 8 hero rotation for the longest time. 10 is great. I wonder if they'll add a new character class.
>>121469669
>Anyway, what do you guys want from the HOTS panel? Any type of new features?
does Cho'gall count as a feature? Cause that's what I want
>>121469786
D2 Necromancer is the only thing I've heard being released soon.
>>121469669
I think we pretty much have the jist of the non-deep dive panel
>>121469715
Its pretty inconsequential for most of us, I imagine
>>121469759
That's half dece... where the fuck is Sylvanas leg?
>>121469786
>>121469839
Never
D2 is forbidden and was made by fucking losers.
When do I pick which Stitches heroic?
>>121469786
>>121469839
I wonder what their reactions would be to Leoric and Arthas
Atleast there is plenty of lili posting today
>>121469669
unranked draft
haunted mines and infernal shrines reworks
map votes/map selection queues/something at all
buffs and debuffs added back to the UI for fucks sake
talent tree reworks for half the hero pool
>>121469883
>>121469895
>Izual photoboming the Great Evils family portrait
what a loser
>>121469965
>>121469759
Nothing wrong with that.
>>121469839
That will be dope too because summonmancer is my shit. I remember them talking about wanting to include him eventually. He better have a literal skelly army though not a tiny bitch crew or a ten second ult.
>>121469895
still can't believe jay wilson said that after releasing the most disappointing game of all time
>>121469965
>autistics fucks drawing lili
she's literally sonic tier.
>>121469715
7 is already nearly too much with such a small roster
no reason to buy anything aside from for HL
it's almost certainly for MM purposes. maybe they figured out customer satisfaction really does matter
>>121470104
The heck is with the design?
Those shapes though.
>>121470076
>I remember them talking about wanting to include him eventually.
Yeah, right after all the angels, demons and minor characters from D3.
>>121470104
Why the chicken stick?
>>121469895
Damn I would Andariel.
I would her so hard.
>>121470161
>yfw it's their excuse to make future hero prices 20k
>>121470104
>>121470067
Everytime I look for Li Li fan art the sites return lily or chun li or other shit no matter what I do with putting quotes around "Li Li" or using + or "lili" or -lily
bullshit
>>121470067
>>121470198
Make sure to bring a lot of poison resist potions.
>>121470280
Why does Naz look pregnant.
And why is Murky so smug?
everyone loves li lis jugs so much she can never go dragon
>>121470350
I just went through the dA HOTS contest entries.
Murky gon murk dat panda.
>>121469883
>>121469097
I don't know why, but these multiperson fights being drawn makes me happy. It just seems so ambitious, even when they are still crap at art, this is what they want to draw.
Maybe I'll draw some phenomenally bad artwork.
>this will never be an alt skin for li li
>>121470170
>mfw spider adria, malthael, and the moth bitch who half-assedly killed cain will be added before andariel, duriel, mephisto, or baal
>mfw lazarus and warlord of blood will never be added
>>121470480
I've done nothing but dragon talents Li Li a few times. I tend to do that if we have a dedicated healer and I just want to use winds to fuck up auto attackers.
>>121470562
Draw what makes you happy, God bless
>>121470562
the surrounding in the linked picture is actually fairly good, so are the skulls. but the faces though.
>>121470627
good riddance
no generic model for Li Li
>>121470627
Placeholder Li Li is cute. I bet she had that stupid "Oh herro!" pandaren voice.
>>121470685
There probably has to be sonics for everybody
Also, rather than release a generic necromancer with a random name they ought to use Nihlathak
>>121470170
I'm fully prepared for Field Marshall Khmer, the fallen
>>121470257
wouldn't surprise me
>>121470931
It will probably be Mehtan
>Yuuup, just me, your boi Uther.
should be alot of this today
guys, something bothers me. if I buy Artanis for in-game currency, and then legacy of the void, will my coins be refunded, or are they gone?
>>121471078
DEATH BY SNU SNU
>>121471031
Also Arthas using two Ultimates. Fucking OP please nerf Riot.
>>121471078
>Sonya the Hambarian
>>121471118
They're not refunded, if you click buy with coins/dough it warns you that you won't get a refund, try it
>>121471186
That's pretty nice actually.
>uther
>good
lmaoing my ass off rn
So what's your favorite skins, /hotsg/?
I like Mecha Tassadar, Anubis Tassadar, Master Tasssadar, Spectre Nova, Marshal Raynor, Warmaster Chen, Festival LiLi, Master Li Li, Johanna's 2nd skin color, Leoric's white Master
>>121471284
oh, I didn't notice, thanks.
Red Sonja Sonya skin when?
>>121471505
Master Memekings
>>121471505
explorer lili, vampire hunter valla
>>121471505
rehgar, comes with
>themed ability
>themed mount
>and, obviously, the master skin
most stuff for your coin
>>121471078
My hatred is unending.
HOLD ON TO YOUR BUTTS BOYS, HERO DEEP DIVE SOON
What Overwatch heroes do you think should be skins?
Soldier 76 as a Raynor skin
Roadhog as a Stitches skin
Trobjorn as a Muradin skin
Zenyatta as a Kharazim skin
Widowmaker as a Nova skin
Last 2 as long as Zenyatta/Widowmaker are still in
>>121472087
>6h
>soon
>>121472093
>Raynor skin
raynor has a fuck load of skins already
just bought KT, two thoughts about him
>if left untouched i can single handedly kill everyone
>if focused i die in 3 seconds
with great power comes great focusing desu
>>121471078
fat people shouldn't be allowed to cosplay
>>121471078
Which reminds me, did the Li Li cosplay anon report back yet? What's with the Lili posting in this thread?
>>121472239
RELATIVE TO THE LIFESPAN OF THE UNIVERSE, BOYS
>>121471505
Mecha Tassadar
Master skin Valla
Kaijo Diablo
>>121472359
she actually looks pretty good there senpai desu ne
>>121472495
>tfw you'll never be Li Li anons Rexxar
>>121472348
What's the combo with Kael'thas?
>>121472348
that's how I feel Sonya works
>if people let me hit them, they're dead
>if I get focused or slowed I can't do shit
I'd literally rather get stunned than slowed as Sonya, because most of the time you're getting stunned when you're already balls deep anyway instead of getting slowed and kited like a chump
>>121470191
>>121472979
>murky in the shadows with octograb off cd
>>121472979
That's a really pretty Li Li.
>>121473120
Real purrdy.
strange that it links back to reddit (TM)
>>121473359
That image.
holy shit I'm dying from laughing.
>>121473303
>tfw no Li Li cake to eat
Tracer confirmed first Overwatch hero in HoTS:
http://www.pcgamesn.com/heroes-of-the-storm/overwatch-hero-tracer-to-join-heroes-of-the-storm-free-with-origin-edition-pre-orders
>>121473749
we know senpai
>>121472348
positioning and map awareness nigger
dying 0 times in a game as kt is not impossible and its almost near effortless
>>121473359
l--lewd
is there a version of this without meme slug
>>121473749
>pre-orders
Overwatch confirmed for dead on arrival. No-one's gonna pay 60 bucks for an off-brand TF2 clone with built-in tunnel vision.
>>121474568
>No-one's gonna pay 60 bucks for an off-brand TF2 clone with built-in tunnel vision.
Do you ever think before you say something?
>>121474568
Are you serious? There's already ridiculous hype. Blizzard games will always sell, because they're always so damn polished. The drones are legion etc.
>>121474671
I think he meant "nobody but idiots are going to pay $60 for a generic TF2 clone".
>>121474692
>game confirmed for having a hero rotation
>game confirmed for having to buy heroes with in game or RL money
>you have to pay $60 on top of that to be let in
sure thang, sir
>>121474731
So, what you are saying, it's gonna be a best seller?
>>121474731
>implying that Blizzard's main audience isn't idiots
>>121474731
Do you not know where you are, stranger?
>>121474862
>>121474872
Basically. I want to die.
>paying money for Overshit
Good thing we at least got to play the beta... oh, right.
>guy on my friends list does a vs. AI with me for the daily
>on beginner AI difficulty
>wants to split push
Just took him off my friends list now that he's offline. Shaking my head at him, to be honest, family.
>>121474568
Built in tunnel vision? What do you mean?
>>121475798
What did he mean by this?
>>121475863
>>121475798
What is the meaning of this?
Why is every nova retarded?
I just played a game vs a team with a medic and a nova on ours. Nova kept trying to kill the butcher, who obviously just killed her because nova can't fucking kill a butcher solo, especially not with the non-decoy build. She never, ever, not even once, attacked the medic. Even if the medic and the butcher were together, she went at the butcher.
What convinces retards who have absolutely no idea about target priority to play a hero who is all about that?
>>121475970
Nova is one of the hardest heroes to play, even above The Lost Easy. Cut them some slack. They're doing the best they can.
>>121475798
lots of visual clutter, low FoV cap with huge obnoxious UI elements and tons of overdone effects from characters and abilities
>>121474568
>TF2 clone
It's not even that. It's more like a CoD clone with overpowered cooldown skills.
I say CoD clone vs TF2 clone because CoD gameplay is all about "see first, kill first" while TF2 is actually about moving around to avoid fire. Damage values in Overwatch are insanely high, if you catch someone who didn't see you at first you'd have to miss a LOT to not kill him first. That's exactly what made TF2 good, outside of snipers and demomans there were very little scenarios where you'd just get gibbed without being able to turn it around.
>>121470142
Blizzard has been sonic-tier ever since they finished D2.
Blizzard died after they released D2.
The pandering/furshit cancer already began to fester in WC3.
>play tank
>win
>play support
>tank is shit or an artanis shitter and lets the other team bully him around
>>121476960
>Blizzard after Warcraft 1
>not shit
AHUEHAHAHUEUUHAHEHE
>>121473749
how are new heroes priced
>>121477023
iktf
>>121477096
15K gold until next hero release, 10K after that.
>>121476372
I thought the guy who made TG2 said Overwatch was a good game.
>>121477616
you mean "was paid to say it was a good game"
>>121477616
>>121477768
More like "it's an old man who owns a multi billion dollar company, he's been in the business too long to openly shittalk a competitors product"
Same reason you see every sony representative talk positively about microsoft and vice versa.
I actually used to play TF2 semi-competitively (yes that was a thing, still is I think) with a bunch of other people. They all say overwatch sucks dick, and none of them expected anything else.
Quit fucking talking about blunderwatch you faggots
Give me ONE good reason this badass green mother fucker isnt the best hero in the game?
>>121478126
because auto attack and pindown heroes suck against anything with a blind or more than 5 HP.
artanis is such a shitty hero
>has an ability that takes him out of the battle until he dashes back
>has an ability to switch places with a hero, so that now that hero can focus the support and now artanis is body blocked by all the other enemies
>gain a shield at low health because you're a retard and don't know when to retreat so the hero holds your hand
>4 second blind ult(lili has a better blind, and it's not even an ult), or a shitty laser that only kills retards
tired of playing with shitters that pick this guy
>>121478126
melee assassin without burst and relies on running at people and auto attacking
>>121478338
Blind is good against AA heavy heroes, I give you that. But the current high level Thrall meta is to build heavy into chain lightning to get sustain and poke. If youre against a team with no lockdown or blinds you can go WF and just rape everything, but the opportunity is rare. Ive found going the chain lightning build vs blind is totally viable. If you get blinded, step back and poke and try to land a firefox. The time it takes you to CL + fox the blind will be off and you can go back in. You are right that blind is a hard counter to him though, but it doesnt put him in a hopeless situation like it does raynor or other heavy AA heroes.
>>121478126
I actually don't know, he's my favorite assassin by far.
I'm willing to bet the people who say the hero is shit follow some weird chain lightning build that makes zero sense. I see that so often, people giving up seasoned marksman for fucking chain lightning mana. I don't get it. Going full windfury + marksman + manatide, you will never have mana problems and you have insane burst. At level 20, a single windfury does 2000+ damage, you heal for shittons during it, and it has a short CD.
>>121478523
>shitty lightning build that does chip damage at most and is in no way sustainable
>current meta
lol of lollery
>>121478423
Without burst? You joking? The overpower combo with thrall can drop 4k+ damage at level 20. in about 4 seconds. Any stun into firefox is enough time to burst down any non-super tank warrior, ive done it hundreds of times. My buddy plays tyrande a lot and if he lands a stun on someone late game, they are 100% dead. By the time his stun has worn off im already in their face and they are locked down by firefox. Its a guaranteed kill on almost anyone. If you think thrall has no burst youve never played against a good one. Id put him in top 10 best burst heroes easy.
>>121478714
>youve never played against a good one
That is incredibly likely, check out the top heroesfire build for him, which is what most shitters follow. It's some weird chain lightning envenom shit.
>>121478602
Full windfury gets countered by blinds and stuns. CL build allows you to get follow through which gives you huge burst potential and tons of great poke. The level 1 talent is purely for the range not the mana. You cant heal if you cant land autos, WF is very easily countered and isnt useful against many team comps.
>>121478714
typo'd. Meant to say follow through not overpower.
>>121477096
New heroes (anyone post the release) are priced at $4.99. They'll talk about it today.
>>121478907
Yeah, and if you look at top hotsdog data youll find the chain lightning + follow through build is the most used and most successful. WF CAN be better but only against very specific team comps that will just allow you to yolo in and AA all day which doesnt happen often. If the enemy team has good stuns or blinds WF build is super useless.
>>121478642
500+ damage chain lightning with full screen range that jumps to 5 targets is somehow chip damage? You even can use it twice, and each stack has a very short cooldown.; Ive literally 100-0'd squishy mages like jaina and kael with ONLY chain lightning pokes over a 15~ sec battle. Its far from useless, even if it is "chip damage"
>>121477232
Is it true?
>>121479038
I mean gold, but thx for the answer
>>121478714
"run up and auto attack a bunch of times" is not burst
>>121479205
>kills the squishiest characters in the game
>wow so powerful so good
>>121477023
>guy highlights leoric/sonya
>i ask, can you play them? I'll gladly do it
>no i'm good
>takes all life leech talents or leap and an assortment of shit on sonya
>tfw
>>121479423
>totally overlooks the fact that its killing squishy AND jumping to 4 other targets
>thinks an ability has to be extremely overpowered to be good, and that a solid, useful ability isnt good because its not OP
stay bronze shitter
>>121479385
How is that not burst? You catch someone in CC, and use the follow through combo to deal massive damage in a tiny window, "bursting" them down to 0 hp. You didnt say "has no ranged, safe burst", you just said he didnt have burst in general, which isnt true.
>>121478421
>be leoric
>be level 20
>artanis casts laser on you and proceeds to auto attack you
>tfw what is dead may never die
>>121479564
kek, you keep getting your ass handed to you by fucking Illidan of all people.
>>121479725
>land CC and auto attack = burst
>the enemy team will let you do this
>tales of rank 40
>>121470350
Stormstout, faget
>>121479564
>"lets get that CL going lads, I'll zap em from afar"
>kael and jaina kill your entire team while you're first silenced, then stunned, then killed by butcher or some shitter
>"I d-did what I c-can g-guys, right??"
>>121479564
>implying any good team will just let you stand around in the open with your lightning rod like that
>>121479725
>I want to play Valla
>>121479859
Thrall counters illidan easy. I 1v1 him all the time. Just wait for his doidge to wear off and firefox him, then just burst him down during the root. Easy peasy.
>>121480101
>>121480215
>implying Im not gonna sunder their entire team away from the healer and dive in right behind my warrior as soon as he engages
Chain lightning is used for poking before/after an engagement, and for procing follow through while your in melee range. You dont stand around in the back line using CL instead of fighting.
>>121480328
Thrall EASILY has more burst than valla. Not even a close comparison.
>>121480380
>poke before
>die because enemies aren't braindead
>poke after
>die because your team is too fucked to help you
also, I've never lost a 1vs1 against Thrall as Illidan. but then again, I'm not playing in the rank 40s where people just let you do that :^)
>>121479564
The playstyle is 100% gay though, and if you just grow some balls, and learn when to engage, windfury is much much better.
I'm not sure why you're playing a melee assassin if you're scared as FUCK of just going in and would rather do some weird build where you shit out 300 damage every 5 seconds.
Just play with your team, learn when it's safe to go in. You get blinded? Use your chain lighting. You get stunned? You fucked up by running into a stun. Play with your team, learn to position well so they're forced to blow shit on your tank rather than you. Sometimes you do get focused, and then you can either try to outheal it with your windfury and a wolf on creeps and some lightning, or you just speed the fuck out of there. As a thrall you're only an initiator in the sense that sundering is super good at splitting their team up if you get a good angle.
CL builds are a crutch for people who don't know when to engage and would rather sit behind their team and shit out a small nuke every other while. It's wasted on thrall, because
1. other heroes do that better
2. thrall can actually be tanky as fuck with his selfheal, so you're effectively putting yourself, a hero that isn't THAT squishy, behind the squishies of your team simply because you don't ever wanna get targetted.
>>121480515
>burst too tiny to matter in any way, shape, or form
>more than no burst at all
Well, color me surprised.
When will they buff Tychus?
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP FUCKING ARGUING ABOUT THRALL WHEN LOTHAR - A LITERAL LEGEND! - IS ABOUT TO BE CONFIRMED
Why discuss Thrall when Butcher is an improved version of him?
Really though, I'm tired of Blizzard following Riot's design process of new heroes supplanting old ones because of more advanced kits.
>>121480797
would you say Thrall is a skill gated hero?
>>121481161
You're going to be disappointed
>>121481161
What would his ability set be?
>>121481125
What do you want changed?
>>121481162
>Butcher
>Good
Ayyyy lmao
>>121481125
>he doesn't know how to meme on people with Tycho
>>121481346
At least people actually use him at times competitively. When was the last time Thrall was used (successfully) in a tournament?
>>121481307
His trait needs to be changed, his Q and E need to be fixed for starters
>>121481291
no, because CL builds exist. That makes the skill floor pretty abyssmal, but CL builds are hardly as effective as thrall can be
>>121480797
Despite your ridiculous hyperbole, I do agree with your sentiment.
WF build is theoretically better. I agree 100% that if youre not being focused or blinded, that WF build is just 100% better than the CL build in every way. My only argument is that the CL build is more well rounded and safe, something that is a big benefit when solo queuing HL.
You missed the part about "when youre not auto attacking, youre dying" when using the WF build. You cant self heal while blinded since you rely on your AA's for most of your self healing. You keep making false assumptions that the CL build just sits back and throws CL from the back line, which isnt what it does at all. You still dive in and engage with your warrior, the play style is mostly the same as the WF build, its just that you dont instantly die when youre stunned or blinded. With the CL build, your CL hits 5 targets which is a full round of your self heal ticks in one ability, AND it has two charges, meaning your constantly self healing. Id argue your JUST as tanky with the CL build as you are with the WF build. You are using your CL in melee to proc follow through during your burst combo, so its always bouncing around healing you. Also, int he CL build you can grab spell shield, which is a HUGE defensive bonus. WF cant get spell shield which makes you much squishier.
Anyways, im enjoying the discussion, keep it going.
>>121481291
Nah id say hes more of a tier 3 hero that has some redeeming qualities, and if your good enough to exploit those without getting punished for his glaring weaknesses you can dominate games completely by yourself.
>>121481161
No one is arguing, just having some good discussion. Imainly brought up thrall because I have done it in the past and it always starts a nice big discussion about him. Everyone was in here circle jerking about blunder watch and I wanted to steer the conversation back to actually talking about the game, and from the look of things I was successful.
>>121481493
Should his trait be a 4 second shield that triggers when he first receives damage, with a 45 second cooldown? A bit like Raynors passive, but not quite.
>>121481493
What's wrong with overkill? What's wrong with the dash?
>>121481735
maybe press d to go fast?
>>121481836
they don't know how to use em
>>121481836
Youre forced to stand still to deal damage, which is a huge weakness. Especially compared to other heroes that can out-DPS him WHILE stutter steping and moving around avoiding skill shots.
Is that guy who thinks Thrall is better than Kael back or something?
>>121480797
In QM, you regularly end up with no tanks or an Abathur or something and end up having no means of positioning yourself properly. Sure, you do need to be able to autoattack, for sure, but being able to get some heal off of a
Chain Lightning while running either in or
out can be very useful.
And honestly, it is 2 fucking talents, it isn't exactly killing your build. Seasoned Marksman is shit since the nerf and you won't find time to gather stacks on certain maps.
>>121481892
>tfw nobody to press your D to make you go faster
>>121481973
Im the guy in this thread arguing for thrall right now and ive never said anything like that. I just spurred some thrall talk to steer the thread away for talking about other games. Anyone who says thrall is better than a hero above tier 3 is just wrong, and hes my main with a 70% win rate.
>>121481924
you know you can move while using overkill, right? right??
>>121482163
Overkill is a spell, not an autoattack, meaning your passive isnt being used while using overkill. WHich means any talents you take to boost your AA damage doesnt work while using overkill.
>>121481836
>>121481892
the dash's range talent needs to be baseline, thats all that needs to be changed
overkill is outscaled by autoattacks
>>121482282
I still don't know where you're going with this TO BE HONEST. You're still able to move and dodge while shitting out cone damage, I've never found anything wrong with it.
>>121482282
>>121482429
The point is that you can either take a build path that lets you be a standing autoattack turret (which is really situational and CAN be good) that only uses overkill to chase or you take a build path ignores auto attacking and you'll be using overkill for damage only, since it has good mobility.
Tychus is actually a really cool hero. I'm not sure why everyone always moans about his trait. Yes, it's not good if you're not going AA build. Yes, overkill can decrease your DPS if you're going AA build and use it at the wrong time.
Why is that bad? It makes him a bit harder to play, but not worse. Yes, his stutter step is shit because he attacks so fast, but what's your point? why does every single ranged assassin have to stutterstep and AA chase?
>>121482561
Im not a thycus player, but ive seen the complaints and ill try to lay it out for you in a way that makes sense:
Right now, tychus' trait makes his AA go faster and faster the more you use it. The only way to use his AA is to stand still. Since it happens so fast, you cant stutter step like other ranged heroes. Other ranged heroes stutter step during the brief cool down on your AA. Since the CD on tychus' AA is so tiny, theres no time to stutter step between shots. This means that any time you spend stepping is time you COULD have been AAing. So this is one major issue with his kit, he cant perform SIMPLE mechanical stuff that other ranged assassins can, putting him at a disadvantage.
The next major issue, is that overkill is a spell, not a auto attack. This means that if you go for a full AA build, all of those talents are wasted while you are channeling it. Since his AA requires you to stand still, the only way to take advantage of his AA talents is to stand still and get hit by AoE. Another problem is that while channeling overkill, his talent is doing nothing, making it completely useless.
>>121483046
last line should read "his TRAIT is doing nothing" sorry, typo.
>>121483046
make his trait increase his range alongside his AA rate. bam, fixed.
>>121479725
the fact that your "burst" takes long enough to be easily interrupted/moved away from shows it really isnt burst
there's a good reason why good players build around lightning and spend most of their time dancing around poking with it
>>121483046
>making it completely useless.
No, it just doesn't work during overkill.
Look at it this way.
Overkill = autoattack damage while moving.
AA = autoattack damage while standing still, with the potential to be HUGE damage if you get the talents for it.
Tychus just isn't a hero where you faceroll all the damage skills you have. If you go AA build, you don't use overkill at all in some engagements. It's a conscious choice you need to make. Mobility vs damage.
>>121483293
Im literally in this thread arguing for the CL build you just mentioned. Dancing around poking with CL looking for a good opportunity to dive in is exactly the best way to play thrall against a team with good CC. I agree with you completely. The CL build also has amazing burst, especially when in melee range. Luckily, theres plenty of CC in this game that gives you the opportunity to get in close and blow someone up. Sundering into firefox is enough CC time to almost burst down anyone purely by yourself.
>>121482868
as it stands raynor does everything tychus does better
by that measure, tychus needs a rework.
raynor is a superior pick to tychus 100% of the time
>>121483356
I dont play tychus, so theres no point is arguing with me, im just echoing the statements ive seen really good tychus players have said about his kit.
Look at it this way, if he actually was a good hero like you are saying, wouldnt his win rate and competitive pick rate be higher? the fact that hes never picked and has a shitty win rate shows the complaints are invalid.
>>121483650
complaints are valid*
fuck
>they just mentioned blackthorn
>>121483607
>raynor is a superior pick to tychus 100% of the time
Nah. Have fun against blinds.
>>121483650
Oh I'm not saying he's 100% fine, he's certainly outperformed by a lot of other assassins, I'm just saying there's no reason to streamline his kit. Buff it, sure. But not streamlining it. His AA talents don't have to work during overkill, and he doesn't need stutterstepping thanks to overkill. That's what makes him unique, and it'd suck if you took it away from him as a form of a buff.
>>121483607
>one of the most babymode characters in the game is better than another hero in the same class
GEE WILLICKERS
>>121483917
>I want heroes like blackthorne and from rock and roll racing
holy shit my dick
>>121482108
Ah okay. I actually like Thrall as well but he clearly has weaknesses.
>>121483917
>white Nazeebo shown in previews
oh boy here we go
>>121484105
Like, a skin where he's white? There's no problem with that.
>tfw matched up with a bunch of level 20s, one of which was some brazilian spewing unreadable shit in chat, playing like some mongoloid
>>121483980
Being babymode has nothing to do with how a character performs when played correctly
Nobody is asking for Raynor nerfs either, just bring Tychus to his level
>>121484094
yep I agree 100%. I feel like if you play smart you can mostly circumvent a lot of them, and the CL build helps you still be useful against team comps that traditionally would fuck his shit up.
>>121484268
a cosplay, you oaf
>>121484320
and have TWO stupidly easy characters who shit out damage in the thousands and never fucking die, sounds good!
>>121483945
>tychus is immune to blind
>>121483980
>durrr raynor is babymode he's not the most broken hero in the game
stay bronze faggot
>>121484284
>QM begins
>immediately after some guy says "br?"
>proceed to lose by a landslide
Every fucking time, huezilians really should have a dedicated server JUST for thrmt
>>121484443
>tychus is immune to blind
>get blinded
>use overkill
Might aswell be
So, what're Tracer's abilities going to be?
Will they just copypaste her skills from Overwatch and come up with some OC stuff to make up for a skill slot or two?
>>121484423
Tychus isn't stupidly easy like Raynor is, stop shitposting
With his minimal utility and mobility you at least expect Tychus to be a top damage dealer, but hes far from it
>le leroy jenkins face xdddd
is this black guy autistic?
>>121484805
I have a feeling it will be valla-esqe.
She'll have a dash that is essentially a better version of vault, maybe the time warp ability to teleport backwards in time, shell have a grenade that explodes after a bit of time like zeratul and do a lot of dps.
>>121485040
Why, do you feel like hes representing you well?
>>121484805
Q: generic single target range attack
W: Blink
E: Recall
R: Pulse Bomb(s)
>>121484805
Q: Good goy - Charges $1.99 to all battle.net accounts of all heroes in range
W: Can't fail - Kill target hero because Tracer, like overwatch, isn't condemned to failure!
E: Evade Criticism: Deflect damage like how overwatch deflects criticsm that its a TF2 ripoff
Heroic 1: Preorder: Win the game and pay $20 for the overwatch expansion
Heroic 2: I m literally too lazy to keep doing this: something gay
Mike yells all the games gets huge yells
Mike yells Heroes of the storm, like 3 people cheer
>tfw reached the lvl 10 and the stimpack activated
>tfw heavy school shit this week and no time to play
just put my life on cooldown ;_;
>>121485614
What? I was just thinking it got the loudest cheer of them all. Do you have the stream on mute?
>>121485304
this seems most likely, honestly
her second ultimate could be some sort of time freeze? maybe?void prison 2.0??
>>121485695
It was the smallest and shortest scream of them all
So i tried that remote control hero and he seems weak as piss. I basically had only some crappy weak attacks and a some piss weak shield, i mean how is that hero anything but burden when other much better hero can take its spot?
HotS had more screams just now than Hearthstone at least.
>>121485974
>im a noob who has no clue what im doing: the post
>>121485974
I have no idea who you're talking about
Who gives a FUCK about SC?
Where the FUCK is Maiev????
>tychus has no stutter step chase
That is wrong. He does have one. It's called "Overkill" and you press Q to use it. You can even use other abilities while you're using it.
SC Ghost????
>>121486510
The complaint is that his trait is bad. Your trait does nothing during overkill.
Wait, Dive Deep started? I thought it wasn't for another two hours.
>>121486510
Overkill apparently doesn't apply AA talents.
>>121486510
>an ability you can't stop once it's started and has a 15 second cooldown
uh rofl??????
>>121486030
The Hearthstonefags are too busy playing Hearthstone on their phones to pay attention to the presentation.
>>121486661
Make it so when you activate Overkill it consumes your stacks to increase the damage by a small percentage per stack. Boom, done.
Where are the literal legends? Where is the movie trailer?
>>121486606
Nova?
