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>NEW SERVER OPEN WITH A NEW KEY GIVEAWAY
https://treeofsavior.com/
>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd (embed)
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>iCBT2 Details
- Server:Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393 (embed)
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.
>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5 (embed)
>iCBT2 Sign-Up (open until 6th): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.
>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)
>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
first for a I want a sorcerer to sit in my face
Thaumaturges are the cutest
third for
>>121450426
I'm going to start kissing in Klaipeda right now!
nth for I wish there were viable classes for Fencer
How is this game so far? The gameplay looks great but I'm skeptical, as with any MMO.
It isn't overly Korea-MMO is it?
>>121450613
what skill build should i go for this class?
when are new beta keys coming out?
Royal Mausoleum 4F, how to access that area?
>>121450736
>archer c3
triggered
>>121450703
Run while you still can.
We're stuck in the grind can't get out.SAVE US
>>121450318
What do you suggest then? Going Doppel? Does that even work?
>>121450756
They haven't said anything.
Hopefully soon though, I keep refreshing my emails
Any lvl 200 Memelander yet? How bad does it scale?
>>121450703
It's pretty Korean. If you don't like the standard Korean grindfest (albeit, this is a little kinder early on thanks to the exp resets and dungeon spamming)
Bare bones and really rough around the edges and not ready for a release, but I personally enjoy this beta more than other MMOs I could be playing instead. But then I like grinding, so there's bias.
>max level will be 400 something
>damage = atk+skill damage
I can't even begin to describe how fucking stupid this is. Seriously, at times it feels like they are just shotgunning innovations in this game, while some are spot on, some are just far, FAR from being interesting. No fucking wonder STR feels useless. Looks like endgame is DEX to win.
What stats should I pick up as C3 Pyro, C2 Link?
Just Int or is it like Wizard where you would want to go all out Spr?
>>121450613
Is Corsair the only one who can use sword and dagger and attack fast?
>>121450938
Impressive
>>121450848
Not that guy, but to be dead honest, the sole reason I went cata over hop2 was for the special effect of the trident. In hindsight, in the final game I will not go cata because I will eventually get a better spear (and spear lunge makes enemies weak to pierce, so there's that).
>>121450736
Stop while you're ahead.
Global chat comes back and so does the lag.
>>121450736
>Archer c3
I'm impressed you made it that far, I believe in you.
>>121451053
>Trying to interact with those books in Mage Tower 4f
Kill me
>>121450613
Is there a way to make the music stop when i alttab out of the game?
Anyone know where to get the "Regina Crossbow" recipe?
Need a bow/crossbow that isn't shit at 75 and it looks like that's the only option
>>121450801
Don't get so attached this will be wiped in a few weeks anyway. Don't give your lobster a name.
Is Guardian worth investing?
Is there any sense in C3 Peltasta?
>>121450872
>>121450872
>>121450872
>>121450872
Respond please
>>121449159
can i? Where can we met?
This place is fucking hell.DO NOT go in here without a party.
This boss is pure ruse cruise.
Should I go for the Rogue dream or do the insane and go for C3 Scout
>>121451370
There is no sense in even C2 peltasta.
Is there some trick to leveling up gems or is the best way to do it just cannibalizing other gems
>>121451456
>Archer C3
You are already insane
>>121451456
Rogue's cuter
>>121451456
Scout c2/c3 is atrocious.
Where's the best place to farm for gems?
>>121451524
Best way is to feed it gems and the dust
>>121451456
>archer c3
so this is the power of 4chan exclusive memes
>>121450918
>str and int literally add 1 damage per point, even to skills
>>121451706
Dust?
>>121451336
I don't think there's a recipe.
How does Cube Amulet work? You just stick it on something and it stays forever?
No idea what it does, if anything.
>>121451456
Why are you not wearing that sweet, sweet scout outfit?
Do we get Iron Bow and Hawk Bow on quest or grinding?
>>121451393
>174 and still not rank 6
Did you grind in demon prison?
>>121451773
There's an abrasive from somewhere that gives a chunk of exp when you feed it to a gem in enhancement. I've only gotten it once and I don't even know where I got it, but it's a purple dust item that specifically mentions being used to level up a gem
>>121451898
Yes
>>121451456
why all the tosg archer not SPR archer?
>>121451957
Because sp pots
>>121451957
Why would anyone want to gimp themselves any more? You're already pretty fucked damage and CC wise as an archer.
>>121450736
>>121451456
is this a new meme?
Would a full con 3linker be worth it?
You could give a ton of HP to your group, but it would only be up half the time
>>121452069
it's fresh out of the meme factory
>archer
>full str sucks. Let's try dex
>full dex is just powerless crits. let's try a mix
>still weak but a bit better
>keep chugging sp pots and using gear with bonus sp
>squishy as fuck, hp goes down in 4 hits
>walk by some people talking
>they're saying archers are disgustingly strong
At least my hat is cute.
>Finally found the Flamini recipeStarving demons way, Lv3 chest
Absolute truth. Im so glad that i made new character
>>121451835
How'd you get it?
>>121451706
Oh is that what it is used for? I got 2 dust on my character's bag.
anyone else getting broken ipf files? Is there any fix for this?
SEND HELP
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/77pzaol7il/
i wanna run something at least somewhat close to this for stealthy magic burst damage + healingin pvp, how screwed am i /tosg/
>>121452298
It's dick error, use the close bypass.
>>121451456
c3 scout gets you scan, which lets you reveal hidden treasure chests. Charge people money to get their pretty hats and stuff.
>>121451835
Wear it and call every one a faggot, and if they get uppity just link them that.
>>121452165
You're better off just getting the Lapis Katzbalger since that will last you longer.
I'm sure a Barbarian could of killed this with a couple of skills but that would require multiple button presses. I just have to hold down square.
>my channel dies again
>there are no other channels
>this zone has effectively disappeared off the map
>>121452249
Kubas, field boss drop.
>>121452195
As a pyromancer, I've played with parties that had from our overlords linkers3 and thaumaturges to memebarblanders and sappers, but I have NEVER played with monks nor paladins.
What the fuck do they even do?
>>121452378
Mage Tower keeps doing that for me
Where do you go for kissu in this goddamn town?
>>121451839
I like the look of the Archer outfit better honestly, scout outfit just looks meh to me
>>121451835
Armband is a cosmetic slot, like upper/mid headgears.
>>121452319
what is a close bypass?
hes here
>>121451637
My original plan was Rogue but people seem to have already proven that its decent so Scout has me curious
So what is your playlist for the new guys coming in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9V3x61D994
>>121452069
>archer C3
>meme
the entire class is a meme but going archer C3 is not why its a meme
Should I do the insane and go both pyromancer and cryomancer?
>>121452357
how do you even kill quest bosses, you fuck nugget.
>>121451880
Hawk bow recipe dropped from the place with Wendigo's when I was grinding I think
>>121452429
hunter outfit=>scout outfit >wugushi outfit>ranger=>archer
>>121452519
I'll just contribute this because no one gives the live action any love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhYHg8e-6Fs
>>121452554
I do the same exact thing like the webm. The only difference is I cast saftey zone before it.
Is the boss of the Royal Mausoleum 5th floor not supposed to drop anything?
Because I feel a bit like I got ripped off.
>>121451957
This >>121452020
Honestly SP pots are more then enough for me kill bosses in a timely manner and I still have a decent chunk of spending money
>>121452469
The chink trick
>>121452621
youre a patient one
>>121452523
oh so u think u know so much about memes huh???
>>121452643
he ran away
>>121452643
You didn't do enough damage.
>>121452357
what stats
>>121452158
You should've asked them why
>>121451386
I'll be back on in a couple of hours, I gotta goplay Overwatch betafor a bit
>>121452410
SMITE
>>121452410
>Monks
Punching things
>Pals
Something, i dont know
>>121452325
Is there a list of hidden chests and whats in them? that might help me decide on going with Scout
>>121452480
>All that /tosg/ by the end
Guilds when
>>121452590
I think it looks nice up close but with the screen zoomed out like normal it doesn't really stand out to me
>>121452480
Is that a Corsair?
>>121452954
When guilds will be possible.
>>121452550
Yes mango.
Then go linker and pyro again after for maxinum damage output since you can now perma-lock enemies in your spells.
Which stats do I need as linker? full spr?
>>121453014
Aye aye cap'n
Holy shit
The noise that the Sakmolis at the Owl Burial Ground make
>>121453249
Is Hop okay, or should I go Barb? I really can't see Barb other than a bunch of offensive skills that I won't be using later
>>121451898
You usually get rank6 around 177-178.
WHEN DO YOU GET RANK 5 I WANT SORC SENPAI
>>121453343
127/128
>>121452816
>>121452829
Well that was helpful. I think. Kinda. Maybe.
Thanks guys.
Does the Toy Hammer work with spells/Sadhu OoB?
>>121453304
Hop is fine yes
>>121453381
I don't think so. Can't confirm however.
>>121453012
Is flare shot as fucking horrible as it seemed to be?
>>121453428
Which would be better PVE-wise though. A two-handed weapon or a spear
>>121453343
Like 127 usually. I know the feeling. I want to get Sorc so I can watch my SP murder itself while Snow Rolling alongside Chapparition
>>121453304
dunno, I think corsairs should barb. I really like helm splitter + cleave and the buffs
Any good spots for griding past 85 ?
>>121453492
Its not great but its at least a little extra dot on bosses and if I can ACTUALLY get mobs to stand in it for the full duration it can kill them all
Like the quests where 20 mobs spawn on you are made easier with it
I'll take the extra tickling over nothing honestly
When monsters are spawned in game, are their loot tables already established?
>>121453551
I was actually thinking, would a Eyestra Rod + Sage Wall combo ease the SP drain that Sorc faces ? Would try, if I ever got in the possession of either.
Warning to all sadhus
OOB is fucked hard when it comes to weapons
The difference between a weapon with 128 matt and 27 holy atk
and one with 214 matt
Is a grand total of the weapon with less matt doing about 60 more damage per hit on a boosted OOB attack.
On any other magic attack, including non-boosted OOB, it is about 100 damage weaker.
So for some fucking awful reason, against any enemy, no matter the weaknesses, boosted OOB attacks basically say 'fuck you' to your matt if there is a weapon no matter how much weaker if it has some ele in it
The damage formulas in this game are so fucking dumb
>Playing Pyro
>Half of my DPS disappears whenever i'm fighting a flying enemy
Will going Linker fix this?
>>121453678
If you need to grind you missed shit. Areas around tenants farm?
>>121453549
A Spear will murder bosses with stabbing
B> more Dungeon entrys
srsly wtf. 2 a day so lame and boring
>>121453734
Try to calm the fuck down and make some sense of what you're trying to say buddy.
>>121453741
Not really, no. It's going to make it slightly less unbearable if you have to fight a whole bunch of flying shits at once but your damage will still be ass compared to what it is on ground mobs
>>121453741
kinda ye
>>121451370
C1 pelt only has merit from swashbuckling for solo mobbing, and that's debatable over S2.
>>121453741
>Playing a**her
>My DPS appears only when i'm fighting a flying enemy
>>121453745
Already did them, should I go straight to stele road then ?
>>121453741
>The other half disappears when playing in a party with a melee class
Pure suffering.
On another note, I'm starting to think that I do more dps without the fire ball burn attribute... but I don't think I can prove it, only calculate it
>>121453842
>>121453858
How about C2 Pyro? Is Flame Pillar that much of an improvement?
Anyone up for 130lvl dungeon?
>>121453924
it has a long CD, but nice in dungeons and quest bosses. Lv10 fire ball + flame ground are very nice too
>>121453872
At 85, no chance, you won't get any quests.
>>121453909
The burn attribute is actually nerf because it fucks up your CD and SP costs.
>>121453817
Boosted OOB's damage formula is fucked.
The matt on your weapon is inconsequential compared to ele
27 holy attack can make up for 90 less matt and somehow make you hit for around 100 more damage with boosted OOB.
strong rod does say 1k damage per zaibas
shitty blunt does 900
strong rod does 480 per unboosted oob hit
shitty blunt does 450
So rod oudamages by 90~ per OOB attack
strong rod does 820 per boosted oob hit
shitty blunt does 910
So for some reason the blunt now outdamages by 270 per OOB attack
There is a small, kind of fucking big problem for sadhus here
So how do I get to the separated area in the south west of the first floor of the Royal Mausoleum?
>>121453924
PILLAR IS COMPLETE SHIT
>>121453741
>>121453842
>put one ball near mobs
>link ball + 4 fly mobs
>pull all together
>fap
Gabija is dead or just mausoleum 5f?
So close, yet so far.
BTW should I become Necro or Alchemist?
So I started saving exp cards at 130. When am I supposed to use them again?
>>121453975
So what would you recommend that I get first? I have no idea what to take in the later ranks.
>>121454057170
>>121454076
you got linkC1 ?
if you go pyroC2, maxout ball+ground 1st
>>121450851
>that feels when korean grind fest doesnt want you to play itself
>>121454003
Sure it's not just that oob attack derive their damage from combined Matt+Patt?
Let's play spot the idiot at the market.
What level do you need to be to take quests from the mercenary outpost in fedimian?
this is objectively the best support build and you can't prove me wrong
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/i959eksc4a/
>>121454275
100
>spend 2 hours grinding Mausoleum 5F
>Get Nukella
>get a blue orb
>get two obsidian
>final minute before I log out some random person kills a mod that drops a fox mask and doesn't notice.
>sit on it so no one else sees.
ez hat
>>121454236
>>121454236
esdesu truly worst grill
Any of the wugushi attributes worth getting?
>>121453996
Yes, exactly that
>>121454040
>put one fire ball near mobs
>link ball + mobs
>balls gets knock away
why the fuck this keeps happening, fuck me
How does boosting work in this game?
Would I fuck a lower level character over from his exp if we're in the same party but I just put buffs on him?
How about if I were to debuff the enemy with something like sleep or links?
>>121454342
Zhendu attribute is great since it applies to all other poisons
Throw gu pot only has 2 ranks and is a no brainer
>>121454236
770 for a level 15 Crossbow? What the fuck.. THATS A FUCKING STEAL, BUY AND RESELL. SHEKEL SHEKEL.
>>121454225
Damage boost only comes in after the boost, pumping str did not affect it, equipping patk bracelets did not affect it.
>>121454398
From what I've read if you have a 20 level difference with someone party exp should still be normal but it starts to take penalties when going further
>>121454398
There are different xp sharing options with sufficiently descriptive names.
>>121454287
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/i959eksc4a/
Why only one point in sacrament? Also this looks more like a jew build, what does oblation actually do?
What level is the next instance after the 90+ one?
>Earth Archon
>Get a linker in the party that links all of us so when someone gets hit by shit they should dodge we all eat damage
>Get the Archon card
Toy Hammer #2 never
>>121454586
130
There's apparently a table that gives a quest in mage tower 3F, but I can't find it. Any pointers?
>>121454129
You have slain me, friend
>>121454603
Seriously, linker is great when it links enemies but that link your teammates so all of you fucking die shouldnt be allowed
Can anyone objectively explain why memelander is bad in the endgame other than "le korean said so xD"?
So far highlander can do various things:
-high damage skills that hit a lot of targets with good variety of slash and strike type
-guard as well as full con peltasta for a little SP and without the insane damage cripples peltasta has to suffer and stagger enemies longer than peltasta
-reduce int and spr of magic casters
-cause various status effects such as bleeding (damage scales with atk), shock, armor break and no jump, and can turn them into more damage with vertical slash
-reduce enemy physical def by 100% with skull swing
-ice pick effect by turning the reduced def into damage with skull swing+vertical slash
-continuous attack skill with 50% base critical rate
-extreme control with several knockback/knockdown skills that can be turned down at will
-all skills cost a meager amount of SP compared to almost all other classes
-two handed sword means they can hit more targets per attack than anyone else in the game and their attacks have a pretty wide range
-as a swordsman they get higher level-scaling phys def bonus, much higher HP multiplier and very slightly lower max SP
Am I forgetting anything?
>"Joint penalty is an extremely potent skill! That's why it only links 5 enemies!"
>Nobody ever takes Linker2 Which would double the amount of enemies linked
Yea, whatever. You guys aren't about to meme me into gimping my character this time and classing a linker.
>>121454756
It splits the damage, doesn't it? I guess it would suck if the overkill damage is massive
>>121454603
I stopped using Physical Link around level 90 or so. It was good at the beginning, when everyone had low hp and the damage reduction was visible.
As levels go on, not only does the guy with 6k+ HP stands and eats hits, making you die - but the skill is also bugged, linking (at best) 3 people, even with max level.
>>121454828
It's not BRbarian :^)
What the
I didn't know that you can use junk to upgrade your gems
is this a bug or is someone actually whispering me
>>121454936
You can, but it's better to use other gems you know you don't need
>>121454859
>making 5 things take the damage all of the other ones take
>gimping your character
why continue breathing being so dumb
>>121454950
It's a mystery.
Anyone wanna come for the Noisy Mineloader on mage tower 4F? Gabija.
>Decide to give Pyro-Linker a try
>Link an enemy to my fireball
>Hangman's Knot
>Not effort required kills
I like how you can somehow dodge poison and bleeding
is it too late to get keys now? i want to try this game
>I can buy materials and recipes cheaper than their sale price
am I being tricked or is this really the market?
>>121455052
Yep.
I hate myself for this but whenever I see a barbarian go past I just assume it's a BR, they are the most fucking dumb players I swear
baka
>>121455052
You've got a chance soon if you sign up for it now, or maybe someone will get extras and casually drop them in the thread again. Have faith either way
>>121455114
do I count as a barbarian if I'm a squire now but use barbarian skills?
>>121455207
You're always a Barbarian. You're everything you've ever been
>>121454859
Linker C2 is only 8 targets
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/20403/
>Level 10 Maximum number of Links: 8
3 more targets is a wasted class. thats why ppl go linker 1 or 3
if it would be +5, would be pretty ok
>>121455261
But have I ever been me?
>>121454859
It's pretty fucking ridiculous when you combine it with good AoE damage, especially in party settings.
>>121455080
Some people don't even know about the 10% fee too bad market is always down.
>>121455314
There's only one way to find out. Look at the palm of your hand and believe
>90 dungeon boss rush hour
>Just want the full run for exp
>>121454573
I prefer to max Aspersion and Blessing.
Oblation can increase the amount of damage done by Indulgentia.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/cssw7gwbfc/
when will i have fun
>>121454950
I was just wondering that
>>121455272
Nobody goes linker 3 since the C3 skill is worthless and Joint Penalty only gets an extra 2 targets and a huge increase in SP cost from it.
Linker 2 is pretty nice not just for 8 targets on Penalty but also for Spiritual Chain. Longer Bind from Hangman's is nothing to scoff at either.
What's the max level for experience runs in the level 50 dungeon?
Have to know which parties to avoid to actually get experience in there.
>>121454950
Someone probably tried whispering you
>playing as priest
>do lvl50 dungeon
>my internet shits itself
>comes back after a couple of hours
>80+ whispers
Anyone know how much coin it takes to max attributes?
>>121451386
If you're still around, I'll be in Klaipeda ch3, just west of the statue
>>121455467
Just solo it.
>FOE disappears
Well then
>>121455473
One circle in Bokor is useless. Get Krivis 2 imo
>>121455569
As nice as my Cryomancer tree of suction is for CC, I just don't have confidence in soloing it reasonably. Especially the temple mages. Maybe if I was a swordsman and could burst everything easier
>>121455336
The important thing is Hangman's Noose if you have Memelanders with you.
>>121455473
0 in Daino wtf
>>121455558
I still have whispers from someone I played with on the first day, it's broken as hell.
Click on the whisper icon >>121455029 then randomly click around in the blank space, it shows you names of the people who whispered you (you can't read messages though)
I just finished the first floor of the mausoleum but I didn't see any way to remove the seal. Do I have to go through all the levels first?
>Its less hassle to start over than it is to grind if you fuck up at any point in time during your leveling
There is something seriously wrong with this.
>>121455473
1 circle of a bunch of random shit that would be torture
>>121455785
>does not exist
>>121455773
not even true, people are just acting retarded
>>121455804
look senpai i just want pardoner so i can be a jew
>>121454727
Please respond
How do I increase weapon range? Priests' feels so short compared to your average swordsman
>>121454828
Koreans haven't actually played their game, they've had continual exp events that enable them to get to level 200 in a couple of days.
>>121454603
Link splits damage. If everyone takes an aoe hit, it won't help.
>>121455909
If you wait till release you can be a real jew Kabbalist
>>121455873
Or massively lazy. This exp card thing isn't even a problem till you're over a hundred
Anyone has lag issues in Mausoleum Storage ? After 5 minutes or so, the skills stop working, and mobs disappear from the screen - even if the chat is still going.
Didn't happen to me in any other map so far
Anyone has any idea why can't I open a Buy-in Shop for Arde Daggers? I'm just trying to transfer it from another character.
>>121455272
I went linker2 because everything else is trash for summoners. I'll gladly take 3 more targets and 5 seconds more of stun, especially when the stun lasts longer then the cooldown.
Anyone gotten their keys yet?
>>121456151
can only put mats + recipe + ? in shop. no gear
I haven't played for about a week, anything new?
Anyone on Gabija want to run the level 90 dungeon for a chance at Arde Dagger? Level 126 here.
>>121456151
Because of potential you can't use buy-in for equipment. What's to stop someone from selling you an equip with 1 potential left?
>>121456601
How as the trip to Rogue?
I wish to be a miko
>>121456601
Where's the level 90 dungeon again? I forgot.
>>121456697
HOW DO I BECOME THIS SEMEN DEMON?
>>121456697
Mikos shouldn't be wearing panties
>>121456751
It's the upper part of her clothes.
>>121456601
Yes, sure, I'll meet you by the entrance.
are these new Missions worth it ?
>>121456723
Class is still in the works so you can't yet
>>121456630
I wasn't planning on it but after people kept saying Fletcher was lackluster, I decided to test Rogue instead.
Archer C1 > Ranger C3 was my path.
I might not be as strong as Archer C3 single target with their level 15 Multi Shot but I can keep up with level 5 Multi Shot, level 15 Barrage, and level 5 Spiral Arrow while offering a lot more AoE. Overall I'm happy with the path I've chosen up till now.
>>121456710
Historic Site Ruins. The one with Necroventer as the boss.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/57825/
>>121456873
'Kay, give me a minute to get there.
So what am I supposed to do after I've run the 90 dungeon 5 times? grind while waiting for the reset?
>>121452830
There is not and that's where you come in.
I assume you don't even need a Scout to dig chest up, just dig in correct spot. But we need to know the correct spots first.
Make a kickstarter-like thing, raise funds on forums to do chest-finding expeditions, make it cheesy/chuuni, roll in dosh.
>>121456947
Probably yeah some new quests opened up for me after my runs so thats what I did
>go do a boss when timers are correct
>always 40+ people by the end
>find a boss we don't have timer for
>4 people
>>121456609
>>121456435
Thanks, I just wanted to see how Sadhu's OOB worked with it. If anyone knows please let me know.