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>>121349786


>NEW SERVER OPEN WITH A NEW KEY GIVEAWAY
https://treeofsavior.com/

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.

>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (open until 6th): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
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1rd for sorcerers are the most fun class.
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>>121398278
More like most slut class.
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>>121398278
second for dead general
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>>121398715
dead game
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Cataphracts are faggots. Holding giant dicks and putting big warm things between their legs. Gayest fucking class.
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Someone mentioned a puzzle that spawns white mobs, where is it and how often can you do it?
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>wiz c3 elem c1
I'm having a blast. Thanks for helping me out with the Ravinepede, Apostle!
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earth temple shooter up on zemyna send help
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How long will it take to get a beta key?
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>>121402423
Event if they are little girls?
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>>121402839
how was leveling wiz3?

I was thinking of trying wiz3 thauma (dual wield rod and dagger, use both left and right hand buffs, and quick cast auto attack spam)
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>>121404483
I am doing this as well but im debating whether instead of going C2 Thaum pick C1 Chrono.

A sword-slut leveled me to Wizard C3
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Jesus, how does one get through 16x?
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>>121405252
I meant C3 Thaum
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>>121404483
wiz 3 is okay if you have sleep and magic missile (my magic missile attribute is at level 20) and quick cast +50% damage.

Magic Missile bounces off of sleeping mobs, and if you do it right you can kill 5 or 6 mobs on average with one Sleep and one Magic Missile.

Quick Cast with the attribute is godly on Magic Missile. It's amazing burst that cools down in about 20 seconds, but bosses can be very difficult as Magic Missile has a short range, can home in on traps or hit absolutely nothing.

wiz 2 is fucking trash and no one should get it if they don't go wiz 3.

I don't know what the deal is with Thaumaturge, maybe you should ask around more. if you ask me, I think Linkers could more naturally go Thaumaturge than Wizard.
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Cryo or Pyro which one is better
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is steparu's corsair build any good? here it is for reference: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/yst6h8o4h8/
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So. Can someone help a retard out here

It says I have everything for the Beetleback shield but it wont show up in the craft menu
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So it says the keys go out on November 6th at 0:00 EST.

Does that mean they go out midnight tonight? Or tomorrow's midnight?

I assume tonight, but I just wanted to make sure.
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>>121405252
Chrono is trash. Only 1 marginally useful skill.
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>>121405418
>wiz 2 is fucking trash and no one should get it if they don't go wiz 3.

Whoops. I went Wiz > Wiz > Linker so far
Should I go Wiz 3 next or just move on.
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>>121406557
I really don't know why you would get Wiz 2 at all over say, Pyro if you were going Linker.

I'm not even sure if you should get Wiz 3 as a Linker because Linker doesn't benefit very much from Wiz 3, apart from linked enemies getting blown the fuck out by Magic Missile.

If you had to ask me I'd reroll and get Pyro if I really wanted a Linker. I got Wiz 3 specifically for Elem 1
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>>121406419
Tonight at midnight. Did they say how many they were giving out?
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>>121406419
The suspense is intense. Fuck, I want to get my hands on that key.
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Hmmm dagger.
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>>121409114
what exactly does this dagger do? and why is it a meme
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>>121409720
No clue, but a lot of people are trying to buy it for stupid prices.
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>>121409720
>>121409828
The fire damage is added to all your abilities and attacks with your main hand weapon. It's basically like you're getting 153 added to your attack.
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>>121411101
>all abilities
even as a mage? that's insane!
I just blew all my money on a staff too.
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hello
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>>121412050
yo nigga
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>>121406854
I was aiming for Wiz 3 and Ele 3 at first, but I got linker since seem useful and my party wanted it. I felt like I was the only one leeching most of the time during Wiz 2. I probably should've rerolled in the first place instead of fucking up my build with linker. Not sure if Wiz 2 > Linker > Ele 3 or Wiz 3 > Linker >Ele 2 is worth it.
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>>121412281
personally I think Linker is made for Thaumaturge and Chronomancer. I wouldn't really go for Elementalist as Linker at all. keep in mind I said 'personally'
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>>121414107
I wouldn't mind going something else, but I don't know what would benefit from both Wiz 2 and Linker, or how to build them. Shame there's no circle reset. I also have a Sword > Lander > Hoplite I have no idea what to do with either.
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>>121414853
Elem 1 only really benefits from Wiz 3.
Wiz 2 is a really hard place to be. What could work is you could be some sort of debuffer/disabler. Going Wiz 3 just for your Rank 4 seems painful especially when Thaumaturge and Elementalist become available.
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what the fuck is wrong with demon prison level 2?
why in every room 999 mobs?
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>>121415431
Tried making something:
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/rl3hswtcek/

With this I can do some mobbing with Joint > Hangman > Earthquake. Not sure if Surespell is useful for Chrono, so I didn't get it. I don't know if I should get Reincarnate instead of slow since it doesn't seem that useful either.
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>>121419712
I think earthquake breaks joint penalty. I've seen it happen more than once, so this combo might not be all that good. Ask around some more, maybe I'm wrong.
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>>121420121
I've been using that combo when I'm forced to solo. It's weird, sometimes it breaks and sometimes it doesn't.
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Linker3->Alche or Linker->Thaum2->Alche
Which one would be considered more useful as a support wiz, alche disregarded.
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Is this a really bad corsair tree?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/e7s80zujpw/

Not mine but I originally was going to do this till swordsman 3 became just pure torture and I switched to a better dps class.
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How do I mass sell stuff?

Npcs usually just take 10 items at a time
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>>121421475
Shift + Click?
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2 hours and 20 minutes until the BR horde gets keys
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Market up on Gabjia?
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>>121422067
It's a lottery and there is more than 100k people.
Also, BRs would join the LATAM server, you should worry about the mass on gabija/laima, lel.
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>>121423361
>Also, BRs would join the LATAM server
Nope. They'll join their friends on other servers, and those who make char on LA server and discover rates are much lower, will abandon it and join other servers as well. We're doomed. IMC is bunch of retards.
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>>121423571
Rates are normal already, check the 5 nov updates on forum.
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Wiz > pyro > pyro here what do you all suggest i go next?
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>>121424671
linker, everyone loves linker
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Has anyone been able to finish this quest?
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>>121406425

>chrono is bad meme

i bet you played one your whole life
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>Half of the wizard classes are supports

FOR WHAT PURPOSE
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>>121425764
Half the Cleric classes do damage too
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>>121424928
Keep talking senpai. When I did it, it worked well. you could try logging out and fighting him again
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>>121424928
persuading it?
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>>121420719
Linker 3, hands down. Spiritual link is disgusting good.
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>>121425949
It's some guy who transformed into a demon because of a curse from the demon lord. You killed his waifu on cold blood and for some reason you got the idea to persuade him unlike his waifu.
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>>121425764
>4 support classes
>half
And that's counting alchemist who I'm not sure you can really call a support since the only thing they support is their wallet.
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>>121420719
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>>121426007
What happens if your party is just dex builds
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>get double pay earn
>doesn't work
Is this shit bugged? I still get the same exp.
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>>121426093
I WANT AN ELECTROMANCER IMC!!!
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What's the best classes to go after cryo c1-3? I'm thinking pyro c1-2 for snow rolling fireballs but then i feel like taking some new high rank classes might be more fun.
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My first 5 runs of lvl 90 dungeon were pretty good. Got the Arde Dagger, Beetleback shield recipe, and 3 talts. Gained 9 levels.
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I want to roll a swordsman, is highlander C3 viable at later levels or should I just take one circle in it and then go barb?
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>>121427082
Take 1 go barb, you might want to consider corsair too.
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Where do I get a Trident?

I don't know where Black Zigri mobs are.

If any of you have one I'll pay 50k for it

>>121407043
I'd really appreciate the +4 Trident.

I assume you're on Gabja? how does 100k sound?
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>>121426574
yea wait till there are 10 ranks for snowball fireball combo you could go sorc into necro or double sorc if you wanna try out riding bosses
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>>121427593
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reminder to note down the field boss timers somewhere other than the list, there's some faggot going there changing the numbers randomly.
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>>121427535 Looking for opinions on this, didn't realize I posted in the ded thread.
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>>121405275
I've got a character dead at 16x and no card, too.

I messed up my classes, so I am jsut forgetting about it and rolling a new one now.
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>>121423571
Good, not enough people around
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>>121427642

the descriptions don't really tell much about the skills to begin with.
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>bullying lowbies into kissing you so you'll stop killing them
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>girls kissing girls
>boys kissing boys
What's next on this parade of public indecency?
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>>121427962
... Eight fucking seconds? Brb, checking all my skills with attributes on and off.
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>>121428006
kissing bosses
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>>121428006
A proposition to legalize marijuana.
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>>121428006
theres nothing wrong with boys kissing boys though
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>>121428006
You getting banned for shitposting, hopefully.
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>>121428006
I want two Thaumaturges to kiss each other while I watch.
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Anyone on Laima wanna do the 90 dungeon?
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>>121427763
I've seen people recommend this but I haven't done it and I bet the grind is real rough might be nice solo once you reach sadhu
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Consider the following:

Maximum level is reduced from 600 (supposed) to 100. All of the current maps (like 200+ of them) are changed so that regardless of your level there will always be 2-3 maps of your level to go and grind on plus several others slightly above and below your level.

At this point in time, I'm thinking 600 levels was just a mistake. The stat system is broken, the scaling is retarded and the content they have is so thinly spread I'm not seeing the logic in having so many levels.
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>>121427428
Already sold it an hour ago for 100k sorry.
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>>121428245
WHEN I GROW UP I WANNA BE JUST LIKE FANGBLADE
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>>121428245
go back to FUCKING WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>121428240
The grind is definitely real, but other than that I see no downsides unless Zaibas is that good or Fade isn't as good as advertised.
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>There was nothing in the fucking chest I spent like 12 quests to open

W...wha?
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>>121399237
I bet next beta will become tree of linkers
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lewd thaumaturge butt
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>>121428475
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>>121428006
literal fucking emote
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What in the fuck?
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>>121428098
Does my summoned birdfu count?
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>>121428245
You think it's broken because practically no work has been done for anything that far ahead. 600 levels can work, when they actually polish shit and tweak what needs tweaking. They don't need to do anything to the number of maps, they need to add more side objectives in the future to reduce linearity and tweak the respawn timers plus mob density in general for several maps. Not every map, just so that grind spots are less scattered.

They already said they wanted a greater element of exploration, so they should get to work on that but only after the mob issues are addressed for each map. Chances are most of the maps in the game are incredibly bare after 250
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which one of u nigga has a 75 2h sword or recipe? i would like to buy one coz gabija market is ded

75 newbie so dont bully pls
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>>121428245
i agree, my main reason for agreeing is the fact that they put damage caps on shit.

What's the point of 600 levels if you're going to be doing the same amount of damage on a mob you were doing like a hundred levels ago?
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>>121428695
>birds
disgusting
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>>121428245
with 100 level cap str and int will be useless.

They strike me as something to raise to 300 with your final levels or something, because you have enough of everything else
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Why do you guys love us so much? Are BRs simply destined for greatness when it comes to online games?
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>farming for vubbe fighter blood
>two hours
>have run into one blue spider and one silver shaman
>still no blood
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Archer C3 > X > Rogue C2
or
Archer > Ranger C3 > Rogue C2?
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>>121428513
nice timing
the models are nothing compared to the real deal.
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>>121428635
watch out there is a goat fetus in your gem
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>forcing players to only play one class by shutting down the market

thanks IMC
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>>121428820
Is this meme glove really that good?
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>>121428324
it's ok. did you buy it or find it?

I don't know where it's dropped
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>>121428704

The problem is, there is about 200 maps and 600 levels.

This is 1 map per 3 levels. Given that each of these has about 15 quests, you're essentially forced to go through them all. It's going to be linear no matter what you do, and the only way to change this is to add more maps.

Unless there is a map or two for every level in the game (so 600-1200) and these have ample quests each, you're always going to end up with a linear experience because there simply isn't enough content to make some of it optional.
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>>121428538
HAVE I SERIOUSLY BEEN RUSED?

Dangit, game.
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>>121428946
bought recipe and built it.
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>>121428798

Either change the way the level scaling works, or give something like +4-5 stat points a level up (that way the difference between levels would actually be noticeable, not just +1 damage or +10 hp/sp).

Either way, the stat system is pretty shitty as it is right now and could do with some major tweaking.
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>>121428854
second is better than the first
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>>121424671
wizard
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what's the point of having a market if it never works?
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>>121429143
I know a game that does this, and it's called Diablo 3. Why don't you go play that.
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>>121424671
3x thauma
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>>121424671
>>121424771
wiz>pyro>link is sex
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>>121424928
I dont even remebmer what shit is.
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>>121428245
they need to crunch down the EXP to get to rank 4, because rank 1-3 is so fucking boring
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Why don't they just take the mabinogi route and let you get infinite levels ?
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>>121429401

ToS going to flop harder than Diablo 3 in it's current state.

Ignoring it's problems and telling people to go play another game isn't going to fix anything.
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>>121429401
what the fuck?
are you seriously implying more than 1 stats per level is diablo territory?
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this drops

but no fucking blood
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>>121429497
I like this game but I can't stop thinking about this. If they decide to ship the game even in a state close to this while fixing some issues it's going to flop SO fucking hard.
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requesting the leveling route pic, thanks in advance.
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>>121428994
>so many maps in the game
>there's like a 3 level jump on all of them
>you get enough cards to level up like once after the 100s

I still think they need to nearly double the amount of cards you get or just make them give more exp at some parts so you're not always going to be almost 10 levels below the areas that still have quests to do.
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>>121429497
The stat system is hardly a problem. The entire game is designed around it.

The technical issues definitely are, and must be fixed before release.
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Who cataphract here?
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>>121429541
I got a blood. You on Gabija right?
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>>121429841
I'm currently Sword 1 Peltasta 1 Hoplite 1 and thinking of doing Cataphract next.

Is this a good idea, or should I stay on Hoplite?
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The game isn't even 1/3rd done, quit bitching about having the opportunity to play it.
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>>121429536

That's how these people argue. And by argue I mean when they cannot refute a point they just insult the person.

The game has some major issues with it right now, and only an idiot would say otherwise. The best we can hope is that the developers fix shit before they release the game and don't rush ahead.

>>121429645

There is 1 map per 3 levels, with a few exceptions. This allows for very little actual exploration because there is one map per 3 fucking levels. Regardless of your class or build, your route through the game will never change because there simply is not enough maps to take an alternate route (there is in fact no maps to take an alternate route).

If there was 3 maps per level for example, you might never visit 2 of them on a character because the map you're on currently is just the best for your class/build. If you ask me, this is clearly the better option, but to achieve this they either need to triple the number of maps in game at a minimum, or compact the game by reducing the level cap.
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Does the curve reset on 85 or 86?
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>>121421369
the fuck am i looking at

jesus fuck
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>>121430049
86. and again at 136.
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>>121428740
just wait for an hour or 2, maintenance incoming

On a side note, This market and shout crash might be intentional
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>>121429841
>linker clusters up a linked group
>tfw slamming them with one of their own for massive damage
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>>121429969

Open beta starts in 2 months in Korea. Initial release is only 6-8 months away.

The game in it's current state needs another year or two minimum before it could be good.
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>>121429969
Are you implying they can get the rest of the 2/3rd as well as all the old and new bugs done within 8 months?
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"Royal Mausoleum Constructors' Chapel"

What is the point of this zone, and why are there so many BR's and corpses AFK-ing in it

There's no quests here. Did I miss a chain somewhere?

I'm very confused.
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>>121430246
Grind autists
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>>121429995
Not even that anon, but a game recommendation is an insult now?

I also don't think there's anything wrong with the stats, for what it's worth. We barely have enough information to draw any conclusions as it is.

With the lack of any real player-made spreadsheets or data I would really rather IMC not listen to any armchair game designers and go with their original design.
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>>121429930
I am
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>>121430246

It is a designated grinding spot.
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>>121430340
Name?
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>>121428770
there is no damage cap on shit retard
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>>121430246
If you went down to the Storage area, it's buggy as hell and causes random disconnects so people die there all the time.
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>>121428913
>shutting down the market
Woooaah wait, they 'shut down' the market?
I thought the influx of obnoxious BRs crashed the market system.
Is it perma shut down? How are we going to jew now?
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>>121430246
Go to the third floor. Less BRs and more enemies, some of which drop good dosh.
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>>121430339

>Not even that anon, but a game recommendation is an insult now?

Yes. He meant it in a condescending way. As in "Diablo 3 is shit, you have shit taste, you might like it".
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>>121425150
I want to try out Chrono before the beta ends on the offchance that there are any weird mechanics, but on paper it does admittedly look kind of shit. All the actual time-manipulation skills belong to other classes.
Quicken should provide Quick Cast, Back Masking should reset friendly CDs, Stop should freeze friendly AoE/projectiles and/or provide Melstis, Haste should actually fucking scale.
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>>121430396
silversmith
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>>121430112
Masochist build.
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I'm level 70 and haven't stepped into Mausoleum yet. Should I be okay if I use the 120 level 3 cards, and 50 level 4 cards I have saved up? I'm getting decent XP at constructor's chapel, but I really want to get my next rank.
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>>121429841
>mounting doesnt work with controller
>pet sometimes doesn't react at all
>sometimes I cant use cata skills on mount

I tried but...
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BY THE POWER OF TRUTH

I WHILE LIVING HAVE CONQUERED THE UNIVERSE
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>>121430406

There is.

You deal less damage to higher level enemies, regardless of stats. At a certain point, you'll effectively only ever deal 1 damage to enemies.

You could be level 1 with 9999999 attack damage, but still deal 1 damage to a level 100 enemy because that is how the game is designed. (Meanwhile, a level 100 player with 20 attack would be doing more damage to a level 100 enemy)
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>>121429969
>Wah wah stop criticizing my game they'll certainly fix things if no one ever talks about it
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>>121430473
That's an awful lot of information that you've managed to glean from a one-line long anonymous post.
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Reply to this topic if you've made mistakes in your class progression and/or EXP Card usage.

Guilty of both here. Going through everything again with a new character is ass.
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>>121430509
Aaand it seems whisper is screwed. Welp What channel and meeting place?
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>Almost at Sorcerer
>Pretty sure its not going to be the class for me since none of the cool beamspammy bosses are options and summons are heavily gimped
>Still have to put forth the effort to try for it
>Going to have to level up another class so I have an idea of what I want to play at launch
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>>121430578
Yes.
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>>121430504
and those skills should have HUGE cooldowns
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>>121429581
It's simple, when you get to levels 50, 90 and 130 you stop using cards and do the dungeon.
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>>121430596
>Meanwhile, a level 100 player with 20 attack would be doing more damage to a level 100 enemy
Would only be true if said enemy had less than 19 def.
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>>121430581
>mounting doesn't work on controller.

Please tell me this isn't true.
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>>121430581
>mounting doesnt work with controller
It does, you just need to be near it. It's actually the one thing that works consistently, I do get the bug where I can't interact with it a lot.

Thankfully its stamina doesn't matter while mounted because holy shit it runs out fast and food is expensive.
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Can you cast spells while on Kneeling shot?
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>>121430673
meet me at mines B3 warp, channel 20
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>>121430596
this means nothing, it's not worth grinding high level mobs, why would you want to do that?
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Hey guys...
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU USE THE BOSSU CARDS?
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>>121428854
If you want some pvp power then Archer c3>scout>Rogue c2 route is way better.
For better mobbing and pve overall though archer>ranger 3>rogue is probably the best at the moment.
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>>121430568
You like pain? I'll show you pain.
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>>121430796
I meant that I have to kb to mount it and I have to do that every zone transition.
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zhendu + barrage = poison on the firat arrow only?
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>>121430842

Why wouldn't you want to? (Outside of level range exp caps)

If a high level mob gives more exp, and you can kill it with ease, why wouldn't you want to?
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>>121429841
>>121430581
>>121430796
why the fuck can't you remount in battle
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>>121430870
If they hadn't nerfed the +skill buff it would've been a great build. It's still alright.
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>35 minutes to get 10% exp
>it only gets worse up to 186

why is this allowed?

i'm literally mobbing ~185 monsters already
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>>121430664
EXP card usage is just a meme.

Using them now or later will only make it feel like you're not grinding.
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>>121430941
because high level mobs will one shot your pathetic ass cause all high level mobs are archers / mages
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>>121430946
You can if your pet is still alive, I have no problems with it.
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>>121431085
it is alive, but it never lets me do it
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>>121431023
It's a Korean grinder, that's how they work. I do feel like they should do what the other anon said and crunch the EXP between 1-3, so you can get to the interesting bits faster.

>>121431061
>make it feel like you're not grinding.
This matters.
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>>121431061
sort of, there are inhrently levels where you can't do quests for exp from boss mobs etc, cards help pad out those levels.
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>Only 75% of the way to class level 13
I need Psycho in my life already.
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>>121431023

Because Koreans got tons of exp events and exp cards with massively boosted exp amounts and told IMC the exp rates were too high.

I pray to god that once open beta starts in Korea, all the exp rates are dropped to what we have and they get no exp events. Maybe then they'll realize how shitty the grind is and stop wanking over their swordsman 2/barbarian 2/corsair 2 builds (because they can't get to it).
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>>121431023
Why the fuck are you still levelling, there's nothing left beyond r6 in this beta.
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What level do you get to rank 6 at?
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>>121431061
the weekends are coming, I'm stocking up on cards to bypass the crowded areas.
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>>121430870
>0 players like this character
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Why does Archer have to be so bad guys? I just want to use a bow without feeling like a worthless piece of shit
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>>121430664
was your 1st char high lvls ? if not, go back to it

i didnt saved up exp cards (before L125) and all was fine. only grinded a little at L85

i did something wrong with my classes tho. but can deal with it
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>>121430748
They already have huge cooldowns. 100 seconds on a stun that you can't hit the stunned enemy during! 300 seconds on a reset button that you'll never use outside of worldbosses!

Face it, all the actual time-control got given to other classes, and Chronomancer was reduced to a shitty buffbot.
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>>121431061

It's not a meme. The simple fact of the matter is at certain level ranges, there are no good grinding spots. It's just much less painful to grind when you have a good grinding spot, and use cards when you don't.
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>>121431291
178
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>Found my second armband within 10 minutes

Are these things even worth anything?
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>>121431269
i'm still 3 job levels from r6 and then having to grind 5 more job levels at least
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Is Pardoner worth it for two ranks or will that stop me from being useful outside of making scrolls and jewing everyone?
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What are you dream classes/classes you really fucking wish they'd implement?

Personally I'd like some tech/magitech/mech user of sorts, a tarotist and of course a music-based class.
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I don't have any friends and I need to transfer expensive equipment to an alt. Please or Gin, if you're here, help me!
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>>121431340
because they were broken as fuck in RO
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>>121431439
Electromancer
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this chupacabra never drop its ear.
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>>121431061
I said the same thing in this thread a couple days ago.

Now I am 164 with no cards on me. Demon Prison monsters have like a 40% EXP penalty for being much lower than I am, there are no good dungeons to do, and no good places to mob or grind at this level range.

It's actually faster to make a new character and get to the good spot, while using the card tricks, than to get out of this stump. Which is what I am doing since I had also made a shit character with all C1s.

>>121431352
Yes. I am beyond fucked.

I am not salvageable, unless they give in to class resetting.
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>>121431439
i really want to try puppeteer but afraid it wont be in swordsman tree
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>>121431439
watermancer.
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>>121431340
Archer is weaker than other classes at the begining, alright? He is much weaker than BRbarians. But archer is not nearly as bad as people say it is.
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>>121431439
I'd like something that uses a giant axe. A sniper or musketeer would be cool too.
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>You will never sing a song while riding your snowball
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reminder that using your class spells is cheating in pvp
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>>121431547
i literally just gagged looking at this build
delete this
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Does Talt even have a purpose?
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>>121430789
it works, you have to press B/O near the mount first for the options to show up
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>>121431547
>that "build"
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>>121431547
Demon prison 2nd area (the puzzle dungeon) is a great place to mob, level 164 enemies. Trees have alot of health but give massive exp.
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>>121431658
brbarian lose to cleric class?
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>>121431658
>1v1 duels meaning anything in a game with so many classes

He's taking it far too hard.
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>>121430809
Nope auto attacks only
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>>121430928
Yes
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anyone want to run the 90 dungeon a few times on gabija? i can support and dps
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>>121431547
oh snap.. these classes

>>121431729
O.O
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>>121431658
>BRbarian can't finish you off

what a scrub

where you at i'll duel you
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>>121431729

You need a party to grind in there though. Those trees are build like fucking bosses and you can't kill them without a group.

It's good exp if you can though. And not nearly as packed.
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>>121431547
This is what game betas are for.

Look at it this way - it's going to get wiped anyway, and now you have a good idea how every single one of those classes play.
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>>121431340
You have better single target damage than most don't buy into the meme.
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>>121431658
>later classes can easily steal heal squares or make them explode
>only reliable heal spell is mass heal

Hopefully people that do go Cleric make sure to use their no damage attribute on heal else they can really fuck over teammates if someone starts reversing them.
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>Can't even be bothered to do quests anymore

Man, I had really high hopes for this game. But it's just another lackluster MMO.
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>>121431750
I am kriv1 and bokor 1
I just put down zaibas and stood on them. Every time he came close he lost massive amounts of hp. So he just ran. I went after him with hex as he cant dodge that. He came at me and I ran back into the zaibas. No way to lose. Still had safety zone back up plan after my 2 heals ran out.
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>>121431256
I thought we were on the same page as kCBT. you mean we got lower rates and shit and were kinda doing fine with it and actually making builds to work with the current exp rates of the game? Well if that's the case shame on the Korean players getting easy mode so they can make their "perfect" builds that won't work unless you're that hardcore then.
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So, what do i do at level 130?
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>>121430664
My only real mistake was not touching the 50 dungeon while 50, I had reasons at the time but questing those levels just wasted exp and caused a lot of issues.

>>121432002
It's funny, I'm somehow having more fun with a beta of an unfinished and rough around the edges game than I do other MMOs right now.
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are monster orbs a 1-time use thing? what is even the point?
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>>121431804
Shit it's the same with every skill. Only the first enemy hit gets poisoned.
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>>121431921
>Implying
Tell me how a cryo 1 and a cryo 3 play the same.
Or a elementalist 1/3.
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>>121432032

We technically are. But Koreans use to get daily exp events that gave them huge amounts of exp so they never really had to grind.

It took Koreans a week of some what casual playing to hit the level cap. The only people we have to hit the level cap played 20+ hours a day for almost 10 days.
That's quiet a big difference provided we have the same client as them, don't you think?
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>>121430578
Howd you hit 70 without using EXP cards? What/where did you grind?
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>>121430168
It's not even a real open beta

It's a small limted open beta test for people who show up at the G-STAR booth
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>>121431664
>>121431726
It's not as bad as it looks. It does a lottle of everything and it all works, but it's not worth continuing.

Using 1H Spear and Dagger, I can use all the skills. I just have to mount and unmount a little, but it's no problem.

Corsair gives me some utility in parties, specially with Jolly Roger. Cataphract gives me mobility to get to places quick and efficiently, Highlander's Stroke lets me kill bosses faster, and Hoplite gives Crit and a couple of damage skills which I was lacking.

I couldn't have gotten all that far if it were shit.

The only thing I wish I could go back for is replacing Corsair with Cataphract.

>>121431729
I tried there a little, but it felt a lot less efficient than Demon Prison lv1, even with the penalties.
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>>121431809
anyone? just need 3 more runs for the day. so much exp
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>>121432095

Do instance dungeon twice a day then grind.

You're lucky we're telling you this. You can save every exp card you get from now until level 160 or so and skip all the shitty areas. 30 levels of grinding might seem harsh, but it's much better than the alternatives.
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>>121432279
Closed open beta is what i call it.
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>>121432095
>grind mage F5
>do 130 dungeon as much as u can. srsly gives very nice exp
>dont use exp card until forever or something
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>>121432353
Sure ill give it a shot, whats you name?
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Archer class has been pretty fun. Just wanted to ask 2 questions:
1. I have 51 Lv.3 EXP Cards saved, should i use them or am i suppose to save them?
2. If i do need to save them where should i grind?
bonus question#∞: How should i spec my archer? Ive tried full DEX and it was meh. Im currently running SPR/DEX,
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Anyone on Gabi have a Sastas Mace or Maulos Club I can buy off of them? Market has been down forever and I'm about to stab my eyes out trying to farm one of them.
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>>121432205
>implying anything

I meant he knows how all those classes he picked play at C1.
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>>121432197
Well it makes sense for the darts

Zhendu would be so good if all your attacks were poison for the duration, You could combine it with gu pot for decent aoe.
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>>121428245
If they were to squeeze the levels down to 100 that'd mean the current content we have would be for roughly 30 levels. Even with KCBT rates that would mean long as fuck levelup times. I do like the idea that there would be more viable areas per level but it wouldn't necessarily be all that different. They'd also have to keep the rate you gain class xp or you wouldn't have time to rank up nearly as many times.

I think the levels aren't the issue. It's the emptiness of some areas (in monsters and quests), scaling, balance and how mind blowingly boring the grind can be in this game.

>>121429454
Rank 4 takes like 25 hours. It's fucking nothing.
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Hey anon, if you're here and I made you a Sniper Crossbow yesterday, I was looking for this so I could upgrade it and finally found it!

If you want it it's yours, I'll keep it around for a while.
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So right now im highler c2, cata c2

Should i go doppel or fencer?
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