Breeding Season: Law and Ethics EDITION
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Let's keep talking about law, ethics and the possibility of some anons teaming up to make the next big western hentai game
http://s-purple.tumblr.com/post/147403501461/im-currently-putting-together-a-point-by-point
>>345006529
U-unless you're all done talking about it that is.
Is the game any good as is ?
Never touched it on purpose hoping it would be finished.
>>345006836
It's fun for the first hour or so but then it just gets repetitive. Doesn't help that the art's mediocre as fuck.
http://mylittledoxy.tumblr.com/post/147389677101/breeding-season-breeding-season-is-over-s-purple
Doxy wants that jew money
We have a statement from the kike now
http://s-purple.tumblr.com/post/147403501461/im-currently-putting-together-a-point-by-point
>>345007442
>Whoops I accidentally leaked Shwiggy's precious art assets again
what did he mean by this?
This shit is gonna be hilarious when it turns out that H-Bomb is the reason this whole project fails even if he got a new artist.
>>345007250
Fuck off doxy, you fucking jew. Some of us don't earn thousands of dollars each month and actually need this kind of job.
>>345007524
He pretty much was
>>345007856
I know, but judging by the crap people are posting, they're too naive to realize something bout H-Bomb's post doesn't sound right.
>>345007504
I'm open to hear his side. Though, it will have to be pretty damn good for me to overlook the fact that he essentially sabotaged Breeding Season, fucking over his former work mates.
I mean, even if he did plan on a clean break from the old project, why does he feel like it's ok to take all of their assets, not inform anyone else, and piggyback off the original concept? Why can't he come up with a new concept and new assets?
>>345007137
>the art's mediocre
that's not true
the animations are mediocre as fuck
and there isn't even a lot of them
there isn't even a lot of art
they never even completed one monster fully
>>345006529
>A game that was never going to get made gets cancelled
What a loss!
>>345007982
Cause he owns them? Even H-Bomb says this. Shwig literally owns the assets. It was part of their contract. There is absolutely no requirement for him to leave nor sell his assets.
>>345007250
>literally the biggest jew of the horsefucker community
>talking shit about milking projects
>>345006731
God this drama is delicious
>>345007504
>I'm didn't do this out of greed
>immediately drops plug for new patreon project using previous assets
>>345008089
Yeah, yeah, law and contracts and all that. We've been over this in the previous thread. Doesn't change the fact that those assets were drawn on Breeding Season's dime, for Breeding Season supporters. It was all for Breeding Season. The fact that he's making essentially the same game with some tweaks, is very very dubious.
>>345008312
What was the password?
>>345008372
The best fighting game ever, come on guys geez.
>tumblr drama queens publicly smearing the fuck out of each other
I think I'll just stay 1MA and learn art myself
>>345008458
...Ballz?
>>345008556
If you want it so much, just go to >>/aco/
And they say Patreon isn't another kind of scam.
At least it wouldnt be as bad as it is now if they used Kickstarter.
>the guy stole 190k and left!!!
>well the game is dead so i might as well also fuck off and live with my previous money that i've stole because i can't manage a 4 man project. oh and btw follow me on twitter so i can post another patreon link to steal your money <3 <3
>>345006836
Breeding your monsters together for increasing stats and trying to get all the best skills together in one monster line is fun.
Beyond that, there isn't really that much. Hell, most of the pairings don't have animations. And that's ignoring the Neonare and Furry variants, which have basically none.
>>345008368
Hes 100% in his right to. If you're asking why he can do it, its because he has legal precedent to.
Theres no reason why he should have to leave any of his work to someone else when he leaves. I can bet most people in a similar situation would do the same thing.
>>345008748
Someone change the password not even 5 minutes of it being given out in the /v/ threads
>>345008089
Not the person you replied to but here's what I think the main issue with what S-purple did is.
He chose to work on a separate project in absolute secret during his 'downtime' instead of letting his fellow coworkers know he was going to quit eventually. He wants to quit and pursue something else? That's completely fine, anon. What isn't fine is that he had always planned to leave the group and decided to abuse the fact that they allowed him downtime to work on a completely different game while also raking in the funds for Breeding Season during that downtime. The fucker was literally getting paid to do nothing for Breeding Season at that point was pocketing that cash until he decided to make his quitting public. It's absolutely disgusting. The biggest complaint about Breeding Season before all this drama was that they were making over 30k a month to do next to nothing. Now we find out that it's all because of this one guy. It doesn't matter what his reasons were... he was literally holding people back, getting paid to do absolutely nothing for THIS project during his 'downtime' and he knows it. There's no justification for it.
>>345008885
From his reply alone, he says he had no intention of collecting the money that was given to him for that month. So the argument that he was working on company dime doesn't hold water anymore.
>>345007504
Both sides are shitty as fuck.
>>345008550
>1MA
what does this abbreviation stand for?
>>345008774
>And they say Patreon isn't another kind of scam.
I don't give to any Patreon, but if the PAtreon is for a webcomic writer who actually deliver on schedule, then you get what you pay for.
>>345009065
one man army
>doxy acting like the jew that he is
Oh god that shit is hilarious.
>>345007504
>Oy vey goyim, I left because things didn't work for me, now pay me more as i will redo the exact bullshit with Meadow
>>345008832
The reason one wouldn't take assets from an old project would be a sense of respect for your formor co-workers. Camaraderie. Respect to your former(and potentially ongoing) supporters. Wanting the allow the old project a fighting chance in your absence.
I wouldn't expect a law obsessed jew to understand.
>>345008995
>From his reply alone, he says he had no intention of collecting the money
Not the anon, you are talking to, and I won't discuss the matter of whether or not he was actually going to do that, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still dishonest and he should have been upfront about it from the start.
>>345008995
>So the argument that he was working on company dime doesn't hold water anymore.
He was still payed to make art for the project, right?
Art he took back without returning the money, right?
>>345008995
He could've just refused that month's worth of payment.
>>345008995
A whole one month of not taking free shekels while working on your own project for who knows how many
wew what a hero
>>345008832
The dick move, though, was refusing to sell the assets so that he would tank the project others were still working on.
>>345009314
Considering that they clearly didn't part on good terms, what kind of comaraderie do you expect to be left?
Furthermore, thats naive as fuck.
>>345009314
>can't manage a project worth shit
>can't meet proper deadlines
>make up bullshit excuses
>underpay half your team just because you fucked up the contract with one person
>even the main animator agrees that you were a fuckwit
It's not like H-Bomb was very respected in the first place.
>>345007504
>there are people wishing him luck with the new scam
christo
>>345009384
Which is what it seems he was doing.
>>345009427
So long as it was on his free time and he was still doing work on the main game, it really doesn't matter.
>>345007504
>I didn’t do this out of spite, nor greed
>work behind your coworkers back on a secret project using art assets from the game you're working on
>>345008995
>>345008832
He says he has no intentions of collecting the money but still did so anyway for months? The graphics he made were made on Breeding Season's dime. He's only in the right because the contract made was shit. What he did wasn't fair professionally or morally... it's just one of those shitty legal clauses that gives him the right when he shouldn't have it. He should have given them advanced notice all that time so they could at least try to get a replacement before then, not just plan to tell them when he's done with his new project as he says. I mean, the man doesn't deny that they gave him downtime and all the kindness that the first post says, he only denies his reasoning for doing it. It looks more like he's just trying to save face to me, but that's just my opinion. That doesn't matter either way, whether it was good intentional or bad what he did wasn't fair to them or the backers.
Let me emphasis this
Whether it was done for good reasons or spite
It was not fair to anyone involved
coworkers
or backers
>>345007815
>>345008090
Is Doxy really a jew? What does he/she do?
>>345009665
That's why i don't like people.
>>345009732
>It's ok to fuck over my colleagues as long as I say I wasn't being greedy
>>345006529
so anybody know the story of s purple and how he cucked his friend
>>345009786
I mean, he is not a scammer, he just get a shitlot of money by making commissions and shit like that.
But at least he still DO the work.
Ok boys let's get it over with.
>Post yfw you didn't back this
>the things people will do for porn
>people actually supporting this scam
>jews coming out of the woodwork to pick up the burnt partreons, shilling on the blogspot
jesus fucking christ, what a shitshow
>>345009786
>earns thousands of dollars a month
>still wants to get in on that yiffer money
How is he not a jew?
>>345009917
Well, there is H-Bombs post over at the Breeding Season site. Though S-purple claims Hbomb's post is 'misleading' so we'll see what he has to say eventually.
>AKA Vladimir Sandler
Fucking rooskies. I just wanted to play the game without downloading it.
>>345010012
He doesn't follow the judaic religion nor is he of semitic religion?
You know you can be a con an not be jew, don't you?
Like I care.
I'm just gonna pirate the final product no matter who develops it.
Why do people love an artist so much that can't even draw fucking legs.
>>345009786
No he isn't. People just like to use the word jew everytime a money scam is invovled, for some reason.
>tfw I befriended Shwig a couple of years ago
>shot the shit regularly while he was in the JDF
>he becomes more and more distant as Breeding Season becomes more and more of a thing and he changes handles to S-Purple for some reason
>this shit goes down, ask him what the fuck
>he simply says it's none of my business and doesn't address it further
Fucking jews I swear to GOD. Filthy, vile beings with no sense of business or morals.
>>345010062
talking about how he cucked a friend and stole a girl who goes by bug dad on tumblr
>>345010193
Except there will never be a final product because none of these project are going to make it that far no matter how much money they're given
>>345010153
For fuck's sake m8 I was using the term in the most stereotypical of ways.
>>345009760
Theres no proof he was working on anything for months. And honestly, what he did was perfectly fine professionally since it was stated in his contract. Morally has really no justification here at all.
Secondly, people like you really should wait to hear more about this shit before making decisions. Even Vanilly basically points out that more problems were from H-bomb's lead than Shwig's.
Thirdly, is it suppose to be fair for them? Is it suppose to be unfair for the person who actually did the work? Should he suffer so everyone else doesn't? Cause this is the naive shit you're spouting here.
>>345010193
That's the thing. It may not happen at all.
>>345007504
He does not make much of a case for himself.
>>345010281
>for some reason
Don't lie, you know exactly why
>>345010302
>>shot the shit regularly while he was in the JDF
What?
>>345010281
In doxy's case its not from a money scam, just money really.
Tbh i don't have anything against Doxy, his art s good.
>>345010421
Considering he hasn't posted his counterpoints yet, thats a given.
>>345010313
Oh, my mistake, I'd quite like to hear about this too.
>>345009525
I find it funny that no one ever describes things that are wrong "naive". I always here it in the context that something is right, but supposedly unattainable, or not to be expected.
Even if he disagreed with the way something is being managed, that doesn't mean he should be so petty as to take all the assets away from the project. He should realize he fucked up by putting trust in H-Bomb. But he made those assets for the team regardless. He benefited from the Breeding season's brand regardless. And those assets were for the supporters regardless.
He should be able to set aside whatever petty disagreement he has, and allow the project to have a chance at survival.
But seeing as how he's making his own project that's nearly identical, it serves him monetarily if Breeding Season dies altogether. They're competition now.
>>345010460
Japan defense force
>>345009717
>Which is what it seems he was doing
Except he didn't. He says he didn't want to but still did. That's like Konami saying they didn't want to butcher a game by removing core things to make it DLC but doing it anyway when they did not have to. If it was a case like that you wouldn't be defending it.
>So long as it was on his free time and he was still doing work on the main game, it really doesn't matter.
Except during that free time he was directly undermining Breeding Season. He was planning to take all the assets with him and doesn't deny it. Why not just let them know? He could have given them advanced notice or done anything to make it easier for them but didn't. What he did do was make every possible decision that would screw them over, eliminating the competition. If a business man does nothing but scummy things but says he meant well do you still believe him? Why does S-purple get excused for this?
>>345009974
>thought people don't make jack shit off of drawing smut
>see that there's probably talented artists that make more a month than I do working in the health field
I wonder sometimes
>>345010460
Judging of Dicks Festival
>>345010352
>defending shwig and his shwigging ways
>>345009760
This.
Just because the guy got away with it legally doesn't mean it's something he should have done. It's an enormous dick move, he fucked over every single person involved with the project including the fans.
In a professional environment you NEVER burn bridges like this, it's insane to even think about it. I completely understand the salt coming from his ex-coworkers.
Shit like this is the reason why I'm afraid of these crowdfunded indie games. Nerdy weirdos tend to go fucking crazy once they get near a lot of money, and if a project gets lucky and explodes like this the chances of something stupid happen skyrocket.
>make tens of thousands per month to work on a single porn game
>a shit contract allows one person to disown the project entirely and put it all into their own project lead by them
>it all blows up and the reputation of both parties involved will probably prevent such a gigantic cash cow from ever happening again
i honestly don't care if either side is in the right, the drama of this whole thing is just amazing
>>345010281
I didn't get the "jews are greedy weasels" thing until I witnessed it myself.
>>345010521
guy had a friend who was with a girl. the girl cheated on him with purple and did a smear Campaign which caused him to be pushed back from the group who was working on a game. after this he deleted all his stuff and purple dated the girl for some time before leaving her thus making her go batshit.
>>345009974
>mfw i did back it
That's four bucks I'm never getting back.
>>345010510
If he'd left it as "I am acknowledging this issue and will respond to it later" I'd be more inclined to give him some faith but right now he's saying, "I didn't do this because I was greedy, but I did actively choose to sabotage my competing project and handle things very immaturely."
I'm not supporting either side but I can't imagine he's got a very strong argument for not just cutting himself loose entirely and letting Breeding Season burn itself to the ground.
>>345009974
>Let's spam the thread with a bunch of shitposts.
No thanks.
You're no better than a roll image.
>>345010528
Because letting yourself get fucked over for the moral highground is the very definition of naive.
You're stating that you want the project to succeed, but thats bullshit too. If you wanted the project to succeed, it shouldn't matter if its under new management or not, so long as it gets done.
But here you are, bitching about morality because of what? You feel slighted? Whats the actual reason you're bitching about this?
>>345010747
>I completely understand the salt coming from his ex-coworkers.
You mean the project manager who both devs who've commented agreed was a complete idiot anyways?
>>345010423
Because it has been a popular mem for several cenuries to blame jew when money scandale emmerge and pretned they are in control of the big industry, even though most of the big money are actually WASP and the jew in powers actually are a very small portion of the jew population, whose most are normal people like you and me.
Do you really thing that Simon, local grossery man in Tel-aviv has any control on the world or even his own Israel government seriously?
No Seriously. Even if all the people in position of power were actually Jew, it would still be minimal compared to the total Jew population and they would be as fucked as you and me.
People who use the word jew are just too lazy to google the actual name of the people who actually control things.
>>345006529
Can you fuck that loli?
If not then I dont care about this furry gay shit.
>Quitting a sweet gig making $9000 a month in Patreon bucks over some management issues
Why would you even care at this point? People work much shittier jobs with terrible managers for a fraction of that much money.
I'm playing Breeding Season 7.7.2 right now, and when I get too many fuck things, I can't select any and it gets annoying.
>>345006529
Is breeding season good? Is it free? Is it similiar to CoC?
>>345011027
>yfw you grow a huge dick and rape your sister with it
>>345010861
Did you just back it for a month to get a download? There were people paying $5, $10, even $20 a month.
>>345006529
>everything on the left
What the fuck is this art direction they just threw WoW shit in a game about fucking farm animals
>>345011024
No, you can't fuck any of the loli in this game
Wait a minute, what if H-Bomb was told by shwig to do exactly what he did to the contract? What if shwig planned it from the start to get all the money like the filthy israeli he is?
H-Bomb was shit on making the contract, but it's would explain a whole lot more
>>345010012
He actually delivers.
If jews delivered, then we wouldn't be calling them jews, we'd be calling them "like us" because we all work for a living, kid.
>>345010808
there is greedy weasels from everywhere.
You don't know what greedy weasel is up until you have dealt with Chinese.
>>345011138
Pretty much. I ran out of disposable income and went back to waiting for people to drop links in /hgg/
>>345011202
If he was planning to do that, he would have waited till the project was almost done. Bailing this early really isn't beneficial.
>>345010349
Well, that's the problem.
Anyone got any of the debug codes?
Also how far in do you have to get to view them having sex, Already got some animals, gave them milk and had them mate, just the menu stuff.
>>345009974
>>345011167
>You can fuck all sorts of monsters
>A loli? Why would you want to fuck a loli?! Are you some kind of pedo freak?!!!
>>345011019
Everyone thinks their PM is an idiot. It doesn't fucking matter either way, if he was an idiot there are ways to handle that that don't involve destroying the business and fucking over thousands of fans. If he wanted to make the game better it is almost definitely easier to fix the flaws in the current one than to create something new from the ground up with an entirely new team. Obviously I don't know the specifics but it definitely sounds like this guy just decided he wanted to be the president and took his chance to destroy his competition out of greed rather than anything else.
>>345011356
Why are you so upset about it? Are you a jew?
Show me your nose.
>>345006731
>>345007504
>ever trusting a jew
I came into this thread to say
>some anons teaming up to make the next big western hentai game
will never happen, but none of you are even talking about that, so it looks like there's no need
>>345011020
>getting this bent out of shape at someone calling someone a Jew for being a giant weasel
Yo calm down. Why are you sudenly trying to be so contrarian against everyone on /v/?
If you're really triggered this easily may I suggest shifting to reddit?
>>345010969
>Made 190k over the course of development
>Fucked over
Your definition of getting fucked over is naive. He was getting paid to draw. He didn't get fucked. He was simply unsatisfied with the management of the project.
> If you wanted the project to succeed, it shouldn't matter if its under new management or not, so long as it gets done.
??? That's a curve ball. I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saing "you" as in me? Or "you" as in H-Bomb? Or "you" as in S-Purple?
>You feel slighted? Whats the actual reason you're bitching about this?
I'm lost. I'm having a discussion. Not bitching. You're the one taking the conversation down to that level by accusing me of bitching, and calling me naive. Also, how could I feel slighted, when I didn't even contribute to the project in any way?
i guess he wasnt making enough money from breeding season and strumpets, so he had to go into maximum overjew to not only kill the competition but also kill his and Hbombs reputation, if Hbomb had any left.
now with the top grossing furfag game dead, people paying due to the art assets will surely flock over to the one who made the art, unless someone superior in art and efficiently capable than I "Shwigy" Diggy Doo saves breeding season, but with HBomb's slow ass programming for THREE YEARS and not enough to show for it, it is over, its dead and done.
>>345011410
You're making a massive assumption that the problems are fixable. Look at >>345011354 Vanilly points out that many of the problems with the project are due to H-Bomb's leadership and laziness.
If the problems that have to be fixed is the one who owns the project, how do you fix it if he has no intention on fixing himself?
>>345010352
>Theres no proof he was working on anything for months.
He doesn't deny it on his post. He only says the H-bomb was being misleading and he didn't do any of the things he said out of spite. Do you people have trouble reading? The man is not denying doing any of these things because screenshots were posted to prevent him from lying. All he's doing now is arguing the point of why he did said things, his excuse being for the sake of the project... despite tanking it all by himself.
>And honestly, what he did was perfectly fine professionally since it was stated in his contract. Morally has really no justification here at all
H-Bomb makes a shit contract so it's fine to do all the morally wrong things because it was perfectly legal. Aren't there movies or TV show plots where the antagonist are business men who abuse contract wordings or the fact that the MC is super excited and doesn't read it to be able to do whatever they want? It's legally right, morally wrong. If he doesn't have respect for his ex-coworkers at least respect the fans who poured money into Breeding Season.
>Secondly, people like you really should wait to hear more about this shit before making decisions.
I did wait for S-purple's post before saying anything. He doesn't deny doing any of the things H-bomb said he did. He only denies doing it out of spite. He's justifying his reasons for doing it. Read reasons above ^
>Even Vanilly basically points out that more problems were from H-bomb's lead than Shwig's
Then why not announce he was leaving in advanced instead of undermining the project in secret? Whatever the other coworkers say they still aren't siding with him and refuse to continue because of him. They're only saying that H-bomb wasn't an angel and I don't deny that.
>>345011079
The whole shindig would have fell apart anyway since Vanilly was doing most of the work and she put in a resignation.
>>345011210
tl;dr
>>345011024
You probably could have had the game gotten anywhere. She at least had a sex scene with a clam. Now, we have nothing.
>>345011596
>strumpets
He's not doing the art for that though.
>>345011705
Don't work with the chinese, they are worst jews than the jews.
>>345011371
The only reason you can't fuck the loli is because it wasnever animated
>>345011679
Was she a programmer or an artist?
I wonder if we would support purps if Hbomb was actually jewish.
>>345011610
She also points out the lack of art direction, which is all on the greedy jew's part, so both are to blame but Schwig is still the biggest and greediest faggot.
>the other honest coworkers caught up in this mismanagement shitshow AND lose a gigantic cashcow
>they likely didn't have nearly as much exposure and therefore whatever they go on to do might not have the same following
F
>>345010912
Whats wrong anon? Backers remorse?
>>345010521
>>345010840
this is what it said about the matter.
>>345006529
Why are people even upset about a mediocre flash game dying.
The art sucked ass the animation was trash and it was just plain shit game play wise
Games like this were made for free years ago
>>345011775
Artist and also the main animator.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a fuck about all of this? I'll just play/pirate/whever Schwig's new game, and I'll be on my merry way.
>>345011761
Really? Everything I know about the chinese(practically nothing), is that they're far more in your face when it comes to ripping you off. While Jews are far more sneaky.
>>345010912
but roll is cute anon
>>345011891
>gender pronouns
>trans
>>345011990
Just read at least the first posts of the pic.
>>345011747
whos to say that hes not under a different alias
his artstyle is easily distingushable,
>>345007504
Shwig you're a fucking tool and a buffoon for trying to take the moral high ground with this. You left your team mates in the fucking dark because of poor, shitty judgment that you clearly put no fucking effort into correcting.
Your followers are fucking tools for even trusting you in doing this when nothing you make has ever finished up properly. H-Bomb being a shitty manager is one thing and you being a shitty team player is another. If you had any amount of self respect you would just completely drop this charade and work on something else entirely.
>>345011594
He got paid to work on the project under a contract that said he owned what he made. You're being naive to suggest he should ignore his own project and give up said work.
I'm saying you as in you. I have no fucking idea how you can misunderstand that.
You're here complaining that Shwig took his stuff and left when theres no reason for him to leave it. Your only justification for so is that its 'morally' right. I'm calling you naive because.. frankly? Thats what you're being. If you were in a similar situation, giving up your work to someone you disagree with so they can profit off of it is frankly a stupid decision. One which generally comes back and harms you. Furthermore, you state that its only fair if Breeding Season is finished. Which as I said before, if all you care about is the project being finished, then an ownership change shouldn't matter.
I kind of want to give Shwig the benefit of the doubt because I sort of know the guy.
It does look pretty damning whichever way you look at it though.
>>345011887
1. Ew, that image is gross.
2. I didn't back the project. I just hate these posts that ask for reaction images, because it adds zero to the thread, while wasting posts.
>>345011354
Why the fuck was Vanily doing Schwig's job when he was supposed to be head of art.
>>345012025
>trans
It's trans latinx, shitlord.
>>345011969
>Schwig's new game
>game
>>345007250
>>345007815
>>345009786
>doxy
Call him by his true name: Onta
Shit like this is why he changed his name in the first place, to get a "fresh start" and get rid of his old reputation
>>345012081
I did. Not much to get out of the first post. Realized I was in for a ride. Jumped out.
>>345010352
>Thirdly, is it suppose to be fair for them? Is it suppose to be unfair for the person who actually did the work? Should he suffer so everyone else doesn't? Cause this is the naive shit you're spouting here.
They worked along side him and did their own part as well. He just took his stuff away when he could have notified them all that time he was working on the other project. Again, nobody is telling him to suffer. Is your brain just shutting down every time you read the hundreds of posts saying the exact same thing? We're saying that if he was going to quit he should have let them know from the get go. It wasn't fair to them or the backers that he was trying to keep it a secret for whoever the fuck knows how long. It's also not fair to the backers that he used the attract to take back the work THEY paid him to do. I understand the contract said he could but he knows it was wrong, we know it's unfair. If the contract was properly done he wouldn't be able to do it. He's only in the 'right' because the contract was shittily made and everyone is agreeing on that. Even the people defending him aren't saying the contract is fair, only that he's legally in the right to do so.
It's obvious what he's doing is fucked up. You're just a fanboy defending an artist you like and blocking out the truth. Again, he literally did not deny doing any of the scummy things they said he did. He only justifies it by saying he had just reasons instead of spiteful ones. That is the whole situation.
>One man starts to swim out of pool as party drowns in freak pool party retardation.
That bastard, how dare he leave the pool and not drown with the rest!
>>345011204
>because we all work for a living, kid
You work for my living, kid.
>>345012141
Let people have fun man.
>>345012240
>shitlord
Excuse me sir, it's transshitlord, shitlord.
>>345011476
>>345011572
Blue eyes blond hair Caucasian nose. Some Vikings might have fucked several of my ancestor.
I guess I can convince you that it's morally wrong to make this kind of generalisation (what is moral, after all?), but I hope you can actually take this argument here.
By blaming everything on some nameless entity we actually ignore the actual individual behind the mess that are regularly caused. The whole issue of a scapegoat (and its actual purpose) is that the real perpetrator get away with it. And you don't nail them by blaming a population who is, in the first place very vaguely defined. You actually identify the fuckers, and rgardless of their origin or religion (hat they probably don't acar about in the first place), try to put an halt to their missaction. but blaming them just because they are jew is missing the whole actual point.
>Yo calm down. Why are you sudenly trying to be so contrarian against everyone on /v/?
Don't know. I usually ignore the Jew slander and put it on the usual LoL racist /v/, but this, I don't know. Maybe it was the Jew too much.
Myabe its because every time a jew is behind some shaddy business, people never fail to mention it, but even when there is no jew, oh, well, let's say he is Jew anyway. As if only the Jew scammed people.
>>345011356
>trying to forum slide 4CHAN of all places
Piss off, Goldberg.
>>345012247
his tumblr is literally mylittledoxy
his patreon is literally doxydoo
on his patreon page:
>Hello my name is Doxy and I make a living through my art.
>>345012270
It just tells that the chinese will backstab and lie to you face every on possible opportunity.
>>345010912
It's always bound to happen
>>345011990
>s that they're far more in your face when it comes to ripping you off. While Jews are far more sneaky.
The only reason they are is because they know they can get away with it with basically no issue.
Jew have to be more sneaky because they used to be burned if people complained to much about them.
I'm kind of tired of the mess already. I hope spurple posts his counterpoints soon so we can have one more big jewsplosion before it dies down.
>>345012242
Its all a scam really since his first stretch goal is 9000 to happen to pay a three man team and i'm real curious who these other two members are. Most patreons start low with goals and work their way up to hiring extra people, Not just flop out a 9000 goal dick on the table.
>>345012136
>If you were in a similar situation, giving up your work to someone you disagree with so they can profit off of it is frankly a stupid decision
Except Shwig was also profiting off of it during development. The crux of all of this is that one of the things holding Breeding Season back is Shwig having a stranglehold on the assets and a perfectionist mentality that made him constantly go back, redo and add a whole bunch of superfluous style changes. Allowing him that much leeway is the biggest mistake H-Bomb did.
Shwig has no concept of restraint. That is poor game development. At some point you have to stop, and he failed to do that.
>>345012136
>He got paid to work on the project under a contract that said he owned what he made. You're being naive to suggest he should ignore his own project and give up said work.
>Falls back on law
See? I can't have this conversation with you, because you're law obsessed. You literally have no ability to reason your way around basic ideas like respect and human decency.
>this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYX2pmXe14U
>>345012247
His "old" rep? Nigga he still draws gay furshit.
>>345012149
well, that's the issue, isn't it?
>>345012349
More like
>asshole pulls the drain plug and runs out with it and refuses to give it back
>>345006529
>next big western hentai game
There was one before?
>>345012585
>The crux of all of this is that one of the things holding Breeding Season back is Shwig having a stranglehold on the assets and a perfectionist mentality that made him constantly go back, redo and add a whole bunch of superfluous style changes.
Doesn't matter much considering that they still got literally fuckall done once they found a style that stuck.
Can someone post TL;DR version of what the fuck is going on with this game?
>>345012361
Enjoy the welfare life, conscript.
>>345012503
It didn't become a thing until relatively recent.
>>345012136
>You're being naive to suggest he should ignore his own project and give up said work.
Not the anon you are talking to, but he was not requested to give it up but to sell it. And he asked for his asset to be removed, literally killing the project.
What he did was simply killing the concurrency.
>already broke $100
he's going to get away with it
>>345012729
tl;dr with jews you lose.
>>345012729
Its dead Jim, enough said.
>game still not out
>guy gets tired still working on same game
Its funny that anyone thinks that anyone other then purple was working if the game still isn't out yet and he has enough time to fart out art at IBS levels.
>>345012690
That russian loli porn game with a really hard to spell name was really good.
>>345012468
He's got a bunch of pseudonyms to attract different demographics.
>>345012729
In short:
>Schwig was in charge of the art in Breeding Season
>His contract stated he has 100% ownership of the art
>He used this to pull all the art with him to his new project
>This effectively killed Breeding Season and enraged H-Bomb, the guy in charge
>>345011610
>>If the problems that have to be fixed is the one who owns the project, how do you fix it if he has no intention on fixing himself?
I don't know anon, does "destroy the project" sound like a reasonable solution to that question?
Knowing the kind of logistical issues involved with assembling a new team from scratch, spinning up an entirely new project, etc., I can't imagine that this was really the path of least resistance. There are ways of convincing your boss that he's wrong. Clearly the people involved had some negotiating power considering the contracts we're discussing. It would have been just as effective to come to his boss and say "look, if this doesn't ship up I'm going to take my assets and fuck off." He didn't do that. He just walked.
Granted if it comes out that this was the only reasonable solution and every other avenue of resolution was tried and failed, then that makes sense. But as it stands it looks fucking crazy and absolutely immature.
I do feel for Vanilly though. Especially that issue with contract/employee, that shit is rough.
What do I need to use to just view the .fla files? I downloaded adobe animator, but it was useless.
>>345012729
The two head honchos of a smut game; artist and programmer, managed to outjew themselves - the programmer through incompetence and the artist through being an unfathomable dickhead.
>>345012926
Download Adobe Flash, Animator dropped programming support.
>>345012386
>writing Fucking paragraphs about how we're being unfair by using the word Jew
Have you ever thought about becoming a comedian?
>the possibility of some anons teaming up to make the next big western hentai game
I'm already working on it, senpai.
>mfw this whole ordeal has me drawing porn again
thanks for your donation to my productivity patrons
>>345006529
Where can I download this
>>345012332
>Let me emphasis this
Whether it was done for good reasons or spite
It was not fair to anyone involved
coworkers
or backers
You're implying it should only be unfair to the artist.
Furthermore, if they did their own work, that means there should be more to the project than just his artwork. In fact it should be easy to replace his work by hiring a new artist. However, if you look at what Vanilly says, that paints an entirely different picture.
You've put H-Bomb on a pedestal and are ignoring all of his own failings to follow the scapegoating he provided.
I'm defending him because of dumbshits like you who can't see that something about this shit seems off.
>>345012386
I don't know m8, you sound like a fucking jew to me.Post your crooked fucking nose right the fuck now, you cunt!
>>345013048
>get asked a question
>answer to it
I am studying to become an engineer.
>>345012937
This is why management and editors are important in any creative process.
"Artists" of any time be it of code or smut are huge divas and need to be smacked around like a gundam pilot anytime they think they are anything more then what they are.
>>345012454
Which is why his opinion is not relevant and he still doesn't pay his employees, and he still aggressively DMCAs anyone who talks shit, and he still revokes access to paying customers if he finds out they are talking shit. The fact that he went out of his way to profit off of ponyshit is just evidence of his bad personality.
People remember him as a furry faggot and a drama queen, but they don't remember him as a scheming and very lazy Jew.
>>345012901
>>345012819
>>345012816
>>345012937
Well shit...
Thanks for the info tho
>>345012729
You have a bunch of lazy greedy hacks who are also petty and hateful working together and you get this.
So I am suppose to hate some artist jew when breeding season devs are just lazy and unmotivated furfags, who more or less con'd buncha other stupid furfags with patreon, from a forum for lazy unmotivated furfag gamedevs to post their dead projects?
Reminds me of the Yogsfaggots who gave an artist 35K who fucked off after two weeks.
Now he works at Disney or some shit.
>>345013069
post your shit
>>345013069
Where does that gesture come from exactly? I never gave it much thought before. But it is such a strange gesture to make. Seeing it in real life makes me think this guy is a gigantic pretentious asshole.
>>345006731
>he bitches and moans about how mismanaged it was and how it was never going to deliver
>meanwhile the leaked repository is full of stupid fucking bullshit ideas he drew that don't fit the game at all and all that time could have been spent actually working on the game
>>345006529
I am honestly happy it got canned. I mean the original idea was great but then they change it to pander to furries and started to remove all the good fetishes. Game turned into vanilla trash for normies.
So glad the artist fucked them up. If you are reading this you did a good job.
That artist guy fucking the game in the ground that hard.
Does he really expect people to give him money for his litteral clone ?
Maybe he had every right to do what he did but i'm pretty sure any supporter of breeding season won't jump to this next project of his, they will probably spread hate on it instead desu.
>>345012594
And you're morality obsessed, as if morality has any purpose in a situation like this.
can you really blame these devs for the shit they pull? no one buys porn games even if they did go about it the legit way
if you made these games would you do the honest thing and make a complete product to sell? fuck no because it would get pirated on the day of release
these jews are just the symptom of your own jewery
>>345013174
Where do you think we are? Facebook? I make a point of never posting my face online.
>>345013136
this
>>345013215
>and he still aggressively DMCAs anyone who talks shit, and he still revokes access to paying customers if he finds out they are talking shit.
What?
>>345013187
Did you mean to post memegineer?
>>345013314
It wasn't always a furry game?
>>345012857
Animation is time consuming work, and shwig changed designs and artstyles twice causing them to redo everything at least twice
>>345012789
Giving it up for money is still giving it up. Hes not required to sell it either.
>>345013358
Morality always has purpose.
>>345013339
>Does he really expect people to give him money for his litteral clone ?
He does and they already are.
>>345013267
Yes
because we /pol/ now!
>>345013303
i want to repe dat pepe
>>345013210
Problem was that according to H-Bomb, Shwig was vehemently against the idea. I imagine the reason it didn't happen was because H wanted to avoid a situation that would force Shwig to leave, only for him to later learn that Shwig was already in the process of fucking over the entire thing in the first place.
I didn't back it, but I am really sad. This shit got me diamonds. When they stopped updating the version that you could play on the web browser, I got cautious. I don't download h-games, part because I'm a macfag who's too dumb to bootcamp and part because it just seems silly. I was already bummed out when they said the web browser would have to wait until they launched their website which was at some unknown amount of time.
I will miss breading season.
>>345013373
I'm asking for your nose, not your face. Then again if you're a jew they're pretty much the same thing.
>>345011850
Games are supposed to have pipelines, and if the earlier people don't do their part then the later people are sitting there doing nothing. This can mean the art team sitting there jerking off waiting for some word. There's really no telling at this point who is mostly responsible for this fuck up, but it's also likely these fucks didn't set up a good pipeline for years, if ever. Which would go a long ways to explain the situation in my eyes, that it wasn't any one person cheating the project, it was a series of incompetence where they aren't following a schedule and can't figure out what to do next.
>>345012907
It doesn't. Which says to me that it was the only viable course of action.
Lot of people are claiming Shwig Jewed out, but honestly put some thought into it.
As you say, putting a new project together from scratch and paying for it out of pocket is a lot harder and more money intensive than just keeping up with it
So what does this tell us? It says that the only recourse from keeping the project from failing entirely is to just leave and start it again anew. Which suggests the problem couldn't be resolved otherwise.
>>345013136
Okay, now that I'm seeing more of things to come. S-Purple still fucked up in some regard, but all in all it looks like no one's a saint here. I should have known better honestly.
>>345013364
And yet the Japanese manage to make enough money to warrant sequels to their porn.
It's almost as if you have to work hard instead of whining in order to succeed.
>>345013267
No, you're supposed to get irrationally irritated at the idea that other people want you to get angry at a person, when in reality no one gives a shit what you think.
>>345007504
>I also wanted to say that my new project: Cloud Meadow was not made to simply steal the profits of Breeding Season for myself, but to actually save what I could of the Breeding Season Project, and deliver on the spirit of the promises made by the project.
>"I didn't do it for myself, I did it FOR YOU"
If he wanted, he could have just quit and started a new project. He went out of his way to gut Breeding Season because it's competition to his new project.
I'm glad Breeding Season is dead, but this is going to be an even bigger scam and it's just pathetic that methods like this get used to get the upper hand in fucking yiff game development of all things. That guy was well off doing art for BS but he fucked the people who allowed him to have that kind of income in the first place over just because he wanted that little bit more.
>>345013464
That's what happens when you don't place a manager or editor in charge of your artist.
Like no joke, artists are moody little shits.
>>345012729
>Programmer puts together a point-and-click spreadsheet game half a decade ago
>Literally no one cares
>Suddenly a good artist shows up, says he'll do the art and makes a contract with the programmer
>Fast forward three years and $500k later
>The programming and game in general has barely advanced (the current state of the game shouldn't have taken three months, much less three years. No, S-Purple starting over has no effect on this, learn2placeholders)
>Artist has scrapped all progress twice
>Animator quit over workload
>Suddenly artist realizes that the past three years have been an unethical waste of time since they milked $500k out of donors who magically couldn't see that the game had been dead for years now
>Pulls out
>Gets called the bad guy by the programmer, a guy who hasn't worked a single day over the past three years outside of code maintenance, a guy who has been living off the artist's work for three straight years despite contributing not even a tenth of the work, a guy who immediately closed his patreon when he realized that without S-Purple he literally had NOTHING
>Programmer doesn't even try to hire a new artist or manager because he knows he doesn't have the programming substance to actually keep the milktrain rolling
>>345013467
>Giving it up for money is still giving it up.
No, it's called selling.
>>345013726
>but all in all it looks like no one's a saint here
The rest of the team might be incompetent but Schwig is a fucking asshole.
>>345013739
Different markets.
I doubt many Japanese games have sold much in the west at all.
>>345013424
No? I don't know what that is.
>>345013553
>Hiring an artist without someone to keep them in line
H-bomb has himself to blame.
Hell, H-bomb needed someone managing himself as well.
I think the funniest meme at the end of the day is that spurp wants to be making the same exact money he was making with breeding season while "he is calling the shots"
he basically seems to have no notion of consequence and would like that as many backers and other artists that he dicked off; for him to basically be able to say:
hey, I draw pixel tiddies, I'm a GOD; why should I have to deal with moral consequences or any social conventions?
Nig, you were allowed to keep your art and get your petty revenge; just drop it and make a new project.
Don't pull a mighty number 9; just fucking drop it.
>>345013739
you can't really compare the western scene to japan. in japan porn is a commercial product that's acceptable to buy socially, paypal wont even let you sell your porn here
>>345013726
Fucking finally. Shwig is no saint, and I know a lot of fault rests with him too. But most of the flak hes getting is unjustified. He didn't kill the project. The project was already dead.
>>345013815
>furry
>giant tits and cocks
it's irremediably shit.
>>345012386
This a million times! Just sick of tired of the obnoxious /pol and /b/ memes on here, but the blame goes to the meaningless mods on here as they rather enforce some rules over other, if someone posts a pony that when they go into action but when I reprot any /pol/ pics they leave it alone. AT this moment the mods are locking my report button like they did yesterday .
>>345013768
this
Just play actually good games. Lurk a bit and you'll find them.
>>345013973
I agree. I also think it could have been good.
>>345013815
>No Antgirl
>>345013875
The demand was high enough to warrant an English DLsite.
>>345013815
was this the first meme porn?
So wait, is the reason why this was getting maybe monthly updates is because the artist was being a bitch and working on his project instead of breeding season?
And his justification was because Breeding Season would never take off? When he has a lot of blame on that because he was working on his own project?
>>345013690
This. People are bitching at him for not staying on the project for easy money because they think it would mean the project would eventually get done. But I've been in that situation before where you are sitting there and things just aren't moving with that team, so your options are stay and keep putting out the same argument to the people you're working with who don't want to listen or leave and do your own thing.
>>345013581
Want to know the truth? I don't have a webcame, and I am too lazy to move my ass from my chair to pick my phone, take a picxture of my nose, find the USB cable and hook it up, and edit the picture to hide my face.
>>345013918
Somehow I can see him recovering a significant portion of the backers in a month or two. He's even gotten a bunch already when he hasn't even made the new page public.
I mean let's be real here: Breeding Season's only draw was the art. Everything else is hot shit.
>you'll never be introduced into designed art for a flash game early in its concept to build it up and have people give you money monthly for your art.
>you'll never jew 190,000 of patreon money ot of suckers and furfags.
>you'll never cuck your best friends girlfriend, and run a slander campaign on him and make him delete his page.
>you'll never plan an elaborate ruse, a month long ruse, that made patreons wonder what happened to you and drop a Holocaust Bomb on patreon, spurning everyone who supported it, watched the streams daily, waited so long to be dissapointed when you dont stream. and even fans who made fanart of it.
>you'll never cuck someone out of a contract that gave you the opportunity to split and run with all the assets and money and make an exact copy of the project you killed.
>you never look back on memories where you had build a child up together with your coworker only to smother it quietly with a pillow like Casey Anthony.
Why even live?
>>345013989
>when I reprot any /pol/ pics they leave it alone
Probably because /pol/ was here way before you were, tumblrina.
>>345013768
Fucking this.
>>345013931
>The project was already dead.
This right here, Legend of Crystal forums are where unprofessional game projects go to die.
>>345013187
That explains the autism
>>345013768
I guarantee Schwig is the reason it ballooned so much, he did the same thing with Bro Quest. Take a simple idea and overcomplicate the fuck out of it with tons of terrible ideas and the rest of the team can't say no because you're the big art guy. Bleeding people for three years is unethical but it only matters when you see the potential to jump ship with all the assets and start your own project for a bigger cut.
>>345014081
if you're so shocked by the greed and stupidity of humans, you're going to have a rough life
>>345013690
>Which suggests the problem couldn't be resolved otherwise.
Or that the guy involved is a massively immature shithead. Logically speaking if they had eliminated every other option then yes, you're completely correct, but something tells me these people weren't operating logically.
Knowing what we do at the moment about the situation, IE:
>they had no managerial oversight
>tensions and emotions were high
>none of these people had ever worked for this kind of money before
It seems more likely to me that this guy just reached a boiling point and fucked off in a temper tantrum. We don't know either way until more DRAMA is released, though, so for the moment it's really pointless to speculate.
You know, for a game thats been being worked on for like 3 years. Its pretty fucking bare bones.
I'm sure some Anon's in this thread could do more in a day.
>>345013768
Fuck off Schwig you giant money grabbing tossbag. I hope you you end up in a dead-end minimum wage retail job.
>>345014137
Thanks for your input, faggot; it's added nothing and you're still worthless.
>>345007504
>upset that H-Bomb is enabling people to pirate the game assets
>assets that people gave you $190,000 across years of development, which you are now applying to a completely different game, asking for MORE money from people, with even less of a guarantee for results, while throwing your entire former team and their efforts under the bus
I don't give a shit whether you are in your legal rights to do this
This is poor fucking form, poor fucking development and is not the sign of someone you should trust with your money
I feel so fucking sorry for Vanilly
I remember a couple of fetishes were removed because some of the donators were sensitive. Anyone remember which fetishes were those?
>>345014072
English DLsie?
The site that takes 60% of creators money and that everyone complains that's no profitable at all?
>>345013923
That would make sense if we didn't have an English DLsite.
>>345014052
What a small selection. This needs to be amended.
>>345014239
Well, judging by Vanilly's resignation, one way or another the situation wasn't able to be resolved. Immature shitheads or not.
>>345014109
It's Shwigged. Spell it properly, otherwise it won't stick.
These threads took awhile but slowly they're devolving into just plain shitposts
Post your face when something happened and it didn't affect you
>>345014298
And yet it is old enough to celebrate an anniversary.
This just means that there is a market for these games in the west.
>>345014304
>english dlsite making any money for anyone
>70% cut
>>345014220
Guess so.
>>345014247
Yeah but all that ART man!
He stole all the ART they would some day put into the bare bones game!
It's just taken three years to amass all the ART!
>>345014180
>>345013768
Schwig was literally in charge of half the game, he was the one pushing all the shit revisions and changes. While it still had shit management and H-bomb still couldn't keep up, the jew is the main one to blame piling up new additions and forcing everyone to redo shit on his whims.
>>345014298
>30%
ftfy
>>345014298
From what i remember jDLsite takes like under 40%. I can't believe that the English version takes like 60%
>>345014180
Schwig is pretty smart, jump into popular but directionless projects and maximize all profits, then jump ship when people realize they are being conned. Those projects would've died regardless.
>>345014394
And I've played many. To many. Hopefully Robfeoy will be god tier.
>>345014180
Can someone fill me in on "Bro Quest". How exactly did S-Purple ruin it? It was just a text based adventure.
>>345014180
>Take a simple idea and overcomplicate the fuck out of it with tons of terrible ideas and the rest of the team can't say no because you're the big art guy.
This would make sense if Breeding Season were some herculean challenge of programming that took a team of scientists to put together.
It's not. It's a point and click flash game. There are games on Newgrounds right now, made by literal children in under a month, with more depth and complexity than Breeding Season.
What POSSIBLE ideas could he have had that couldn't be accomplished in three full years? Don't forget the game was practically done from a programming perspective five years ago on the LoK forums.
I keep hearing that Schwig wanted these crazy additions to the game, but no evidence that the programmers were even doing work outside of maintenance for that to be an issue in the first place. We have the leaked files now. We can compare the end result with what was released years ago. The work isn't there.
>>345013136
I'm not putting anyone on a pedestal because they're all dirty jews who could have used their communication skills or contract clauses to force other coworkers to get their shit together or they leave with their work. I'm only talking about him right now because he chose the worst jew way to tank the project when he did not have to. H-Bomb was a terrible 'leader' but nobody really did anything about it and continued to rake in cash while they sluggishly updated the game for months, what's his face did most of the work but still never said anything because the project was a nice money sink and there was no real profitable reason for him to make a fuss when it was easy sailing there, and then there's purple's issues. They all had severe problems that plagued the entire project with Jew memes. What we're all discussing is who decided to just delete the project completely instead of forcing a work meeting to sort this shit out when they easily had the contract to do so without risking anything. Instead S-purple chose the jew way and went into working on another project in secret until he got caught and only then went public with it.
Again, anon, they all had equal blame for the project. But the person who seems to be the reason why the project is now dead completely is S-purple.
So how is the new project from the artist different? Is it more hardcore and has more gameplay?
>>345014486
>It's the jews fault for having so much power
>Not the retards fault for giving the jew all that power
Hah
>>345014407
fixed, danke
>>345014290
>I feel so fucking sorry for Vanilly
This is what I'm taking out of this as well.
Neither of these people deserved Vanilly.
>Hbomb's testimony is 'Shwig fucked up everything '
>Shwig's testimony is 'Hbomb made it so it was already a dead project, my actions changed nothing.'
>Vanilly's testimony is 'Management was shit for everybody in the team'
It's still lacking some puzzle pieces.
Especially why did Shwig have to leave secretly and work behind everyone's back? What's the motive for doing so?
this is funnier than the pocketpussies game blowout
>>345014290
From their point of view it's assets they worked hard on for years and have legal ownership of, and they can either let it sit on a dead project not going anywhere, or take it and make use of them.
You can't blame them for exercising their legal rights, the only person you can blame is H-bomb for signing over the ownership like that. But then again we wouldn't even have heard of Breeding season if that had been the case because then they wouldn't have had any artist, did you see the early breeding season art? It was deviant art tier mspaint drawings and no gameplay except basic movement. There was no draw to the game outside of "Hey guys one day the art is going to look like this!" Then proceed to stamp Shwig's stuff all over it.
>>345014417
A market to sustain the website, creators are only receiving scraps.
They probably earn around 10x more in the Japanese version of the site.
>>345014740
>What's the motive for doing so?
Schwig's a dick
>>345014137
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
Checkmate you small dick loser
>all these people saying it was dead anyways
Maybe the project wouldn't have died if Schwig wasn't being a little bitch working on his own shit using breeding season patreon money and forcing everyone to go with his shit ideas.
>The game is going to die, might as well start using my time and effort on my own things
>By doing this I will inevitably cause the game to die.
>>345014740
>motive
He's a jew, that's all there is to it
>>345014742
What's the story, Wishbone?
>>345014708
It's everyone's fault, but yes with jews you lose and everyone should have seen it coming.
>>345014052
>no repure aria on the list
>>345014740
>What's the motive for doing so?
Maybe schwig was tired of putting up with it and just wanted to do it himself, dick move but honestly for a while he seemed sick of it
>>345014740
>motive
Artists have short attention spans and get bored easily
Its a wonder he stuck around as long as he did.
>>345014672
>It was just a text based adventure.
he joined as the artist, the art he did became synonymous with it, and he started making a bunch of really shitty ocs to cram in it that didn't fit the original style at all and the whole thing fell apart. whenever anyone tries to start broquest again he pops out and says "lmao ripping off my designs just don't use any of my art or i'll sue you :^)" even though he didn't make the initial designs.
>>345014431
You said there wasn't even a market here yet a website managed to thrive off it.
>hbomb telling people not to support him
>!6 patrons 2 hours ago
>now its 44
>it will probaby get to thousands
hbomb suicide note when?
>>345007504
I've only played Breeding Season for like 20 minutes grand total, but I hope this dude's new project just completely flops. He seems like a total dick. I can't imagine his supposed counterpoints will make him any more likable.
>>345014052
what a shit list
>>345014756
hello schwig
>>345014854
Have you EVER been to LoK forums? Even if you remove Schwig, Breeding Season for long time was a half-dead project barely moving. Most of the game updates came after Schwig, and even then the game has been BARELY updated from original point.
>>345014672
Broquest was ruined because all it had was idea guys. Shwig was just the person enabling all of it.
Whatever was left of Broquest that had actual talent involved tried to turn the project into a new thing called Shoulderon Gaiden, which Shwig was also involved in. From my understanding, despite him doing all of the art, a few people on the team don't have that many nice things to say about Shwig either.
>>345014697
I'd argue that the project is dead not because of one person leaving, but because H-Bomb decided to close up shop.
You're saying that they should have worked things out instead of him jumping ship and I agree. But what if that wasn't an option? I mean lets be honest here. He had it made, he has no reason whatso ever to leave, because success or failure, if he just continued to milk it he would have had bank.
Him leaving had to be for a reason. Theres only one real reason that makes sense, and thats he wanted to complete the project but under the current leadership that was going nowhere.
Back to why its dead, H-Bomb could have easily hired a new artist to take over for the project. Hell, tons of people even offered. But if the rest of the project was lacking, andi t seems it was, then the only thing it had going for it was art. Which then, if you take it to the logical conclusion, means that Shwig was doing the majority of the work while H-bomb just collected.
>>345014052
shit taste
>>345014921
Oh forgot that one. But I've only played the demo. Gameplay was fun but the sprite animation felt a bid weird. Is it really that good?
>>345014672
He didn't. The truth is that BQ was poorly managed in every aspect, and only a handful of people, mostly music guys and Shwig, were the ones pumping out actual work.
Everyone else just kinda lounged and did nothing.
>>345013690
>As you say, putting a new project together from scratch and paying for it out of pocket is a lot harder and more money intensive than just keeping up with it
What pocket though? He's expecting fans to fund this new project like they did with the first. He's going to use edited versions of Breeding Season's graphics to make things much, much easier as well. He didn't choose the viable route, he chose the easy one.
It seems Vanilly is the only one being professional about this whole ordeal.
Good on her
>>345015004
>even though he didn't make the initial designs.
Weren't the initial designs stick figures?
>don't use any of my art or i'll sue you :^)
Can you actually sue someone for using art from improvised project that is making no monetary gains?
>>345015119
Nu-uh
Greedy jew is greedy!
Rip!
Tear!
Kill jew!
JEEEEEEEW!
>>345014692
It was a simple idea but it got overcomplicated with adding new monsters before the existing ones were even close to done. One of the features was crossbreeding monsters and the more you add the more work has to be done.
I want to breed with Vanilly
>>345015178
it's great. The gameplay is decent for an H-game and the lewds are really well done, there's also a sequel that just as good.
>>345015257
Vanilly was fucked over from all sides so I'm glad to see she's not flinging shit
>>345015023
>crash one project with no survivors by making out like a bandit with tens of thousands of dollars of Patron money
>'I think I'll support his other project, there's no way something bad will happen to it!'
I honestly cannot understand why anyone would do this. Ever.
>>345014740
Vanilly's testimony basically says that the programming was going absolutely nowhere. So I'm guessing Shwig fucked off to do his own thing to actually finish it.
>want to make a porn game
>start drawing characters
>fap to said characters
>post-fap depression makes me lose all willpower to keep working on the game
>the next day I get the urge to start work again
>repeat process
WHAT IN THE FUCK. How do you do it lads? There has to be some way I can work on my game without getting FUCKING ERECT and ruining my dreams!
>>345015272
There were shitty mspaint drawings of the original characters that Schwig based his own drawings on.
>>345015023
The initial burst of people that checked his new patreon already happened.
He is gonna get 1k tops in the mid-term.
Literally shot himself on the foot.
>>345015039
>>345015127
I tried to be object.
I'm curious. What do you like then? Something which has good gameplay, animation/good art?
Or does it has non of that but your favourite fetish?
>>345009974
who the fuck would back this in the first place
>>345014768
So what if the creators receive scraps?
The discussion was if there is a market in the west and this webiste wouldn't have been able to survive if no one was interested. Heck even these do nothing Patreon losers making thousands just shows how desperate the western market is for decent porn games.
Someone clever could easily compete with them and make a nice living off of selling porn games.
It would be way better for all of us instead of this Patreon crap.
>>345015272
Yeah, initial designs were doodles that were touch above stick figures. This was for both BQ and BS. I miss BQ original designs, it was just a small and simple idea that people jokes about on /v/. Never should have taken off as it did.
>they didn't see this coming
>>345015429
Sexfiends
>All these .fla's in the dev files
>All these characters rigged and ready to use
sweetlord this is gonna be amazing
>>345014740
>What's the motive for doing so?
https://youtu.be/C8MOeRMwvgg
>>345015119
H-bomb shouldn't have dragged production out that long. Luckily his shit contract bit him in the ass.
Schwig is the asshole we need.
>>345015439
>and BS
The original BS art was really fucking bad.
>>345015234
Thats not easy. And its out of pocket because he still has expenses to pay for including hiring other people.
>>345015373
I don't want to understand them, I just want to keep laughing at them when something sinks and everyone is out for blood.
Anyone got a list of all the Debug codes, or do these work?
http://pastebin.com/1Vy19hSt
>>345015119
Breeding Season has been in development for years and most of that time that's been spent, Shwig went completely OCD on all of his assets and kept adding and redoing things. The game grew too big for it's own good. There's so much shit to go through that if Shwig left and actually wanted to keep the assets, there'd be no fucking point to rebuild it. It'd be a shell of it's former self.
>>345007504
>never going to be finished
>entirely his own fucking fault, because he kept adding new monster designs and kept re-making his own art (and somehow made it shittier)
>so I am going to go off and do it myself
I boy, I can't fucking wait for 3 more years of him remaking the same art assets over and over.
>>345014740
from what im gathering vanilly was basically doing all the work while they did cold war politic bullshit due to both of them perceiving the other as lazy and not doing anything when really neither of them were doing shit
>>345015471
>they SERIOUSLY didn't see this coming
>>345013292
yah wrong board m8
>>345015419
try Sangoku Musou: Empress of Tragedy
>>345015392
>fapping to his own characters
You disgust me.
>>345015604
Even if thats true, programming wouldn't be held back by art assets.
>>345015298
>It was a simple idea but it got overcomplicated with adding new monsters before the existing ones were even close to done. One of the features was crossbreeding monsters and the more you add the more work has to be done.
Yeah, from an art perspective. Sure.
But from a programming one? Absolutely not. Breeding Season's current release/leak is a joke of a game. If you had three full years to put together a flash spreadsheet title, you could have accomplished much, much, much more than the dump they ended up with.
H-Bomb has been collecting on his team's art assets for three years now without actually putting in any work.
>>345015635
Post a link then.
>>345015471
who's this
>>345015631
semen demon
>>345015392
>Fapping to the characters he draws
>Not recording yourself fapping and then fapping to that video
>Then recording the video of you fapping to you fapping to yourself and creating an endless cycle of you fapping to yourself fapping.
Plebeian
>>345015609
>When you let your artists have too much free time and freedom bad shit happens
Fucking artists.
>>345009974
>Ever spending a single cent on Patreon when you can torrent all the shit those retards make for free
And more importantly
>Paying for porn
Shit like this will never affect me because i will get this to the point it was developed for free and whatever future shit they do.
Don't invest in Hentai kids, do what you want instead.
I'm going into hyper-stasis.
Wake me when someone turns the leaked assets into a build of Breeding Season that is something worthwhile, or in the very slim chance that Cloudy with a Chance of Meadows doesn't fall apart.
>>345015807
The jew who ran off with Breeding Season's money maker.
i thought spurple is a cong viet
>>345015385
She also said the art direction was shit and she essentially had to do Schwig's job
>>345015604
It's more than that, he kept adding stupid fucking ideas that added nothing to the game. Go look at his tumblr, he talks about god pantheons and shit. Like that has anything to do with a game where you make monsters fuck.
>>345013113
from /f/ most of the time.
It's a repost of a repost of a repost of some jew nigger that hates repost, because he's to lazy to finish it.
>>345015873
Pls stop bullying us;_;
>>345015739
This thing about programming has me confused.
What's the issue? Do you want there to be more features? A more complex interface? The golden rule of programming is the same as any other engineering discipline - don't fix what's not broke. If it worked, it worked. Especially for porn games, overcomplicated UI often gets in the way of the main objective of the title.
That being said I am genuinely curious though. What kind of additional programming would you have liked to see?
>>345015895
>very slim chance that Cloudy with a Chance of Meadows doesn't fall apart.
Why would you possibly want this guy to succeed after pulling a stunt like this?
>>345015739
Stop talking sense!
>>345015928
I believe it was more that she said she was forced to act as the lead when she wasn't as well as handle PR.
>>345015651
There's only so much a mortal man can take. My creativity does increase exponentially while I'm aroused and working on the game though.
>>345015654
I don't fap to my own art, per say, more or less just the concept of the characters lewdness. And then I say fuck drawing and go off and look at porn/hentai.
>>345015437
Akbur, a slavic jew, already makes nice living in whatever post-soviet shithole he lives in off of porn games. There's several others that live in similar style, check ULMF or any other such site if you like.
>>345015861
some kinda hotgluing your own art thing
wouldn't that ruin a tablet, tho?
>>345015948
>When you let your artists have too much free time and freedom bad shit happens
>>345016049
Which again was Schwig's job
>>345015371
>Vanilly DP'ed by HBomb and Shwig
i didnt know that i needed this
>>345013307
You're a dumb ass. Do you have any idea how much of that shit is made just drawing concepts, running them by the team or the patrons, and then either putting them in or tossing them? Or the crap that was saved to be put in later?
Or if you're talking about him doing other shit on his own tumblr? Dude worked 5 days a week for 8-16 hour draw streams for patreon followers, he got to have time off.
>>345016005
While simple is best, for a game to have had so little coding done for as long as it was out for suggests a general lack of work ethic.
It kinda seems very similar to Minecraft if you ask me. Where the programmer just kinda lazes about cause they're getting all of this money instead of actually working on the game.
lol even normies from Kotaku is giving this publicity
even that hypocrite SJW mexican swine fatricia hernandez is writing an article about it
>>345015023
already got 5 more patrons in the last 11 minutes
HBOMB SUICIDE NOTE WHEN?
>>345015429
furfags and idiots
who else
they shouldn't close it just hire the boogie and doxy. Rip the contract with S man and make all assets over again this time with quality work.
>>345014290
>I feel so fucking sorry for Vanilly
Really the only thing that can be said from this. Incompetent project lead plus a bad art lead. It was painfully obvious this was never getting done as soon as they started redoing assets. Even before that there was no incentive to actually finish the game since they would getting paid anyway.
>>345013754
To be fair, if he didn't pull his assets, then HBomb would have sat on them, and sat on them, and sat on them, doing absolutely jackshit with the game, and not actually developing it at all until the game started hemoraging users or he got sued for fraud by Patreon.
Why would S-Purple want his work to enable that?
>>345015373
> by making out like a bandit with tens of thousands of dollars of Patron money
He probably doesn't have much of that money left, depending on his expenses. He got a 63k salary, which means he was living extremely comfortably but I doubt he just has 180k sitting in a bank. He may or may not have half that he did really well. Would be enough to fund him 3 years of 30k living expenses while he works on his new project.
Don't expect to see him with a sports car.
>>345016285
>Dude worked 5 days a week for 8-16 hour draw streams for patreon followers
And yet the game was in development for three years and made almost no progress?
>>345016017
I like good porn. I like good vidya. I don't expect it to be good, but like with everything I HOPE it's good. I don't want all the Call of Duties and Hollywood blockbusters to be shit but they just are. If they can be good, then that's rad. I'll pirate Cloudbuilt Meadow it no matter what though (if it is good).
>No one learning that patreon is a scam site
WOW
>people unironically pay for porn
>>345016505
Which says to me that the programmer wasn't doing their job.
>>345016325
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08YjzmvSx_o
>>345016005
Pretty sure he's saying he doesn't see how there could possibly have been that much of a blockage on H Bomb's end given that most of the programming involved in the game could be completed in a week tops.
Which means either Schwig is lying or H Bomb was momentously, unimaginably lazy.Personally I think it's a little of both. H Bomb was clearly lazy but even so the game was so simple that even if he literally only worked 8 hours a week it still wouldn't have been so backed up without other people also slacking off massively.
>>345016505
The game has too much art to program!
Literally the artists fault for making too much art!
>>345006529
I must have missed something big but drama coming from a degenerate game that has a development cycle designed to jew money from patrons for as long as possible? Color me surprised.
>>345014180
Spoken like someone with no fucking idea what happened with Broquest.
Shwig didn't balloon that game. the 8+ Idea Guys/Designers and 0 Programmers did.
>>345007504
> I’m shocked and dismayed by his efforts to dox me and in pirating my work since by the contract we both signed at the beginning of this, he couldn’t have it to himself, I never expected him to be happy about what was going down, but this is behavior is unacceptable. By releasing my real life information, he’s put my family in fear, and that’s wrong both professionally and morally.
Is the doxing a lie or not?
Biggest lie fr
>>345013768
>>345014031
>>345014146
Hi schwig
>>345015392
Just don't cum, anon. Fapping is fine. Just edge.
>>345014290
Have you guys actually read Vanilly's post that was directed to HBomb? It blames HBomb for his fucking bullshit, nobody else.
>>345016060
>Akbur, a slavic jew,
>Be big into TF fetish
>Oh sweet an nice TF mini game with Jasmine, (a TF fetsih classic)
>Like the art
>game is unfinished
>one part of the game contain a slave trainer minigmae
>not into mindbreak but okay
>mindbreak become a game of its own
>"maybe once he has finished this one, he will finish that TF game"
>proceed to make an Hermione slavetrainer
>"maybe next?"
>is full on into slave triner now.
I will never see that TF game finished, isn't it?
>>345016325
FUCKING KEK
THIS IS UNREAL
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>345016581
But there's enough art assets in their dev kit that if what you're saying is true they'd have something more playable than what they have. Instead we have a bunch of art assets and no game.
>>345016693
Well, Schwig is right about H-Bomb acting like a fucking manchild about the entire situation.
>>345015119
>You're saying that they should have worked things out instead of him jumping ship and I agree. But what if that wasn't an option?
Then quit and make it public that you're working on the game. He knew full well his contract allowed him to do whatever he wanted so there was actually no reason for him to go secret mode on all this. H-Bomb's post implies he had been going mia for far more than just a month (not justifying H-bomb) and it's flat out stated that Purple only came out with it when his other funding project got found out. Can't we agree that this was wrong? He didn't have to do it this way but did. He says he didn't want to take the money but did. You can't keep saying you didn't want to do things but do it anyway and expect everyone to believe that, can you?
>Him leaving had to be for a reason. Theres only one real reason that makes sense, and thats he wanted to complete the project but under the current leadership that was going nowhere.
I don't think anyone disagrees with you there, Anon. But the issue is the same as above. ALL OF THEM let the project sluggishly flow by in this weird standstill until someone either blew up or someone got caught doing something fishy (purple) and here we are now. I honestly believe they cared about the project but it still looks more like they were all being lazy or just not putting the amount of effort they should have until emotions ran high and someone decided to act like a jew or child. The problem here though is that Purple isn't denying holding the project back from his regards, but says it was justified because he was planning to work on something else. Think about it...
As for hiring a new artist... well... The fallout seemed to have been extremely abrupt and everyone else on the team decided to give up when Purple took the graphics and ran. Like I said many posts before, he could have given advanced noticed but didn't/ He left them with a hole abruptly that needs time to patch.
Someone redpill me i'm not reading all this shit.
>>345015371
At least she got great management skill from that (and at least received salary, I hope?)
>>345016805
It blames S Purple a ton too, considering one of Vanilly's main complaints was that S purple wasn't doing any of his job aside from drawing shit and forcing all the stuff he should be doing as art head onto Vanilly.
>paying for porn other than Akabur
>>345016857
Who needs Jasmine when Shantae's 3 times hotter?
>>345016781
B-b-but I wanna cum!
>>345016916
Like I said I think H Bomb was also outrageously lazy but unless he was literally doing nothing there's no way he was the sole cause of the problem.
>>345016005
>What kind of additional programming would you have liked to see?
The point is that Breeding Season was practically fully programmed years ago, before Schwig even got involved. Between now and then, all the programmers did was include a few new mechanics, insert the art, and general maintenance. All of this could have been done in under a month given the amount of code we've seen.
And one of the biggest arguments in this thread is
>Schwig kept making crazy demands of the programmer and swamped them with his horrible ideas!
So apparently H-Bomb had so much on his plate that he had to complain about it in public. Where are these features? Where are these crazy demands in the code?
This means that for the past three years, the programmer has been doing N O T H I N G despite collecting just as much money as Schwig and the rest of the artists, who have been actively working. Yes, I'm aware of the art wipe.
Are you saying you couldn't think of a single thing a programmer could have done over the course of three years to make his $500,000 product better?
>>345016581
If Shwig knew that Breeding Season was a sinking ship that wasn't moving anywhere there was no point of him adding/redoing a whole bunch of new art assets and conjuring up shitty lore that wouldn't have gone anywhere. I can believe that H-Bomb got somewhat lazy but the overwhelming amount of material that Shwig loaded onto the team was not helping at all, and clearly there was still work left to be done which he wouldn't back Vanilly up with.
Okay, so I just woke up and saw this for the first time. Anybody wanna be a doll and give me a tl;dr of what's going on here?
>>345016916
Because Schwig kept pumping assets out and the programmers couldn't keep up with his endless idea pit of shit that added nothing to the game.
>>345017062
i love this gif
>>345014740
Shwig wants to make the whole game on his own to take all the credit and money. He threw away a solid 50% profit contract that was still making him money because of his ego and greed.
>>345016968
Did she? I don't know man.
Didn't they not hire her as an actual employee? Or maybe they did but just didn't want to.
She had to cover a lot of asses adn did PR stuff even though it wasn't her job. She did way more than they could have paid her to do
Why is this getting canned? Wasn't this making an absolutely fucking preposterous amount of money on Patreon? Why would you ever kill such a cashcow?
>>345017069
Why not both?
I forget how much money they were making from this.
How much was the monthly patreon total? Or did they have one of those "money upon completion" patreons?
>>345017069
Shantae doesn't get a game were she is transformed against her will (my TF fetish is specific).
At least Akabur was making Jasmine having undesired results.
Fuck, is there now any way to play this without downloading it?
>letting artist lead a development team
this shit is "idea guy" level
>>345017124
game still in development after 3 years and 500k over patreon that whole time, artist contract said he kept rights to all his assets so he pulled out and made his own game and left the rest of the team to eat shit
everyone involved was incompetent as fuck
>>345017132
From the sound of it it wasn't even the programmers, it was poor Vanilly having to do all the shit necessary to turn Shwig's art into shit that was usable for the game without any help.
>>345017158
>>345017202
You would think he would just keep working on and raking in money from Breeding Season, get the shit done as quickly as possible, and then use this profits to make his own game later. At least get something you've accomplished in your portfolio so you can say, "yeah I helped make this, why don't you try my game?"
>>345017132
>There was TOO MANY art assets for us to get work done!
Jesus fucking christ, in any real pipeline you'd have the animator going down the list completing one thing at a time and programmers implementing it and you'd have a steady implementation, but you're seriously trying to tell me Shwig is an asshole because he gave them too much content?
>>345016959
>The project went by sluggishly slow before patreon and schwig, more or less half-dead
>The project goes sluggishly slow, but actually gets slightly more updates, with Schwig and Patreon
>The projects finally dies like all other LoK projects after going sluggishly slow for what might be a whole decade now.
Schwig didn't kill the project, it was dead from day one. Only thing Schwig is guilty off is joining into somethings that's an obvious scam and then running off later after making a large profit off it.
>>345017124
Not to do with anything, but I would have paid more attention to this game in the beginning, if I knew Subtank was doing work on it. How did they ever convince that slippery motherfucker to work on the project? He's so elusive.
>>345017132
>the programmers couldn't keep up with his endless idea pit of shit that added nothing to the game.
Where's the code to back this claim up? The leak show that there's not even a month's worth of work put into the programming. The game's been in development for three years and they already had a functioning game before getting on Patreon, so why doesn't the game have more code to represent these shit ideas?
>>345016959
Its morally gray honestly. If, as Shwig said, he was only working on it that month and wasn't planning on claiming that month's check then what he did is gray at best.
The holding back thing I will say seems more like H-Bomb's problem than anything however. Vanilly herself mostly lays blame on H-bomb's poor management overall. I wouldn't say Shwig was being lazy however, since theres concrete evidence of the work hes put out.
The way I see it is maybe he was planning on giving notice, but was found out ahead of time. Right now we only have H-Bomb's word to go off of on how events went down. Until we hear all sides of this, damning anyone seems a bit excessive.
>>345006731
>linking to tumblr
just
Let me get this straight...
Their deviantart-tier artist was making 15k a -month- doing basically fucking nothing, and he -still- wasn't happy?
If I was making that kind of money there's literally nothing that could make me unhappy with anything.
>>345017202
>cash cow
>>345017124
The H Titanic without a destination ran into a Jewish Iceberg that was also the lead engineer and designer of the ship. The Iceberg took all the good stuff out the ship because it was his according to a really stupid one sided contract and he moved to another ocean to work on his own H Titanic. The blueprints of the sunken H Titanic was uploaded as well, so enjoy.
>>345017332
>everyone involved was incompetent as fuck
Vanilly comes out looking good.
>52 now
WEW
E
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i'm gonna take a nap now and by i wake up its gonna be over 100
>>345017353
Shwig might be able to draw but he's an ideas guy at heart and he kept pumping shit out and since he was the one drawing it he expected everyone else to comply.
>>345017420
Look at the leaked repository and see all that fucking art that should have nothing to do with the game, He did the exact thing with broquest when he was drawing art for it.
>>345017083
Too bad. If you cum you produce bad art. No cumming until you finish, but you can keep your hand on your dick if you want.
>>345017402
You got a link to any of Subtanks work? I can't find anything else he's done, or even what he specifically did for BS.
>>345017486
none of them are jew, though.
>>345017478
Word. I don't give a fuck how poorly managed my shitty, low-effort H-game was or how much of a faggot my coworker was, for that amount of money I'd do just about fucking anything.
>>345017420
This.
>>345016805
I don't think YOU actually read it. She blames shitty management but she also blames the fact that she was forced to do the illustration work and art direction by her own self (the thing Shwig was responsible for) because people weren't showing up.
She was put into a shitty working environment thanks to Shwig being a dickhead and H-Bomb not having balls. He should have fallen back onto his own suggestion of getting better management but had no guts to counter Shwig's stupid fucking "no we do things my way" mentality. If you actually read it she doesn't point any fingers directly but it's easy to infer that she's blaming both sides here.
>>345017548
>Look at the leaked repository and see all that fucking art that should have nothing to do with the game, He did the exact thing with broquest when he was drawing art for it.
Okay? Remember when you said
>the programmers couldn't keep up
in your last post? Could you show some of the code that backs that up?
Because looking over these files, the programmer(s) were doing fuck all for three years.
What does Hbomb even do on the project
>>345017450
stop being retarded. it's relevant to the conversation so of course he's going to link it
>>345017630
Except Schwig is a bonafide g-d praising Israeli jew.
>>345017658
Do you understand the phrases that are forming from your hands? I say the programmers couldn't do something and you ask me to show you the thing they couldn't do?
>>345013768
>>345014031
>>345014146
Nice try Schwig, you greedy Israeli fuck.
what will we do when the shit storm is over
I've gotten so comfy here in this brown smelly pile
>>345017624
Sorry, I only know him from the old /i/ days. I didn't save any of his work. But that stuff should be compiled on a booru somewhere, right? He draws godtier tits, and great looking girls overall. But he's one of those guys who doesn't want an online presence.
I assumed he was already some manga artist posting under an alias. I didn't think he would be working with Breeding Season.
>>345017353
Is this some sort of joke?
He straight up stopped doing his job- he was supposed to create the scene, cut up the drawing, vanilly was the animator.
She states that he had completely stopped this, and she was doing all of it at the end. He also, apparently, got subtank to do animations for his new project, with subtank working under the assumption that the shit he was doing was for breeding season.
And finally he literally redid the designs, across the whole fucking game, twice at a bare minimum, forcing a redo of every character and animation. He's got no fucking excuse.
>>345016857
Source?
>>345017420
Game existed for more than 3 years though.
>>345009968
To be fair he is pretty damn good at his job.
>>345017674
He finished programming the game four or five years ago.
He wrote some of the dialogue.
He "manages the team" [citation needed]
He earns an equal share of the money.
I'm playing the dev version now, you mean to tell me this game never got any form of sound or music after all that time.
>>345017805
You talk about video games with the piece of mind knowing you didn't back this project.
>>345016463
Why would he go out of his way not to? He's not re-using the assets for his new game (I think) and he has been paid way to much for the assets as is, retarded contract aside.
I really hate both parties in this, but shwig sounds slightly scummier.
>>345012901
>Contract a guy to do art
>tell him anything he makes for the company isn't own'd by the company
>shock when he gets ducked over and the guy walks
>mfw
>>345017852
I keep seeing people say that subtank thought he was workin for BS, but is that actually confirmed anywhere?
>>345017443
Problem being he didn't let H-Bomb know of his intentions until someone showed H-Bomb Shwigs Patreon page. Thats just the sign of someone being shady.
>>345017852
Yeah read Hbombs blog post about it. It includes a screencap of him messaging subtank.
>>345017594
So cruel! But alright, I'll persevere and unload at the end of my workflow!
>>345017390
>Schwig didn't kill the project, it was dead from day one. Only thing Schwig is guilty off is joining into somethings that's an obvious scam and then running off later after making a large profit off it.
That's what I've been trying to say but everyone keeps trying to defend him. I didn't mention the others and the project itself being a shit show because I thought everyone else was already aware of that. The project had always been a money sink but he tried to make a second one for even more until he got caught, then bailed.
>>345017443
I mean, they were all greedy shits who could have made this work if they had communicated properly but didn't. The main issue is that purple went beyond that and made a second project to get double the funds for more than a month until his coworkers caught wind of it and then bailed when he realized he was fucked with Breeding Season.
>>345017539
I can't wait to see Shwig abandon this game, he going to have no one to blame but himself.
>>345017802
>I say the programmers couldn't do something and you ask me to show you the thing they couldn't do?
No, dude. I'm telling you to realize this game is barebones as fuck from a programming perspective. They absolutely could not have taken more than a month or two to put the game together in its current state.
Meaning the programmers had three full years of NOTHING TO DO.
How the fuck were they unable to keep up when they literally had NOTHING TO DO?
What possible demand could Schwig have come up with that couldn't be accomplished after THREE YEARS?
>>345017920
The Patreon met a stretch goal that funded a soundtrack which was supposed to be made by Jake Kaufman.
No fucking really, that was a thing at one point. Good old Virt himself had signed off on a porn game.
>>345017548
>Shwig might be able to draw but he's an ideas guy at heart and he kept pumping shit out and since he was the one drawing it he expected everyone else to comply.
It's that evil artist's fault for doing all that art.
He did his side of the job but I don't see shit from the rest of the team. There's enough in there that they could have coded a game by now, so why didn't they? Because shwig gave them too many art assets? That's the biggest load of shit.
Am I allowed to be a little disappointment at the very least?
Potential not being realised is always worse than a bad delivery.
>>345017920
Thats shwigs fault
He was supposed to draw the score.
>>345018125
How about the fucking god pantheons and war machines he thought should be added to a game about monster breeding?
>>345018116
You underestimate degenerate scum, Anon. They ALWAYS have someone else to blame.
>>345018125
>"No wait guys let me redo literally everything I've done for the past year producing nothing new!"
That's what he did. There was nothing for the programmers to do because he kept redoing art, which meant they kept needing to remake animations, which meant that he wasn't making any new assets so the programmers literally couldn't do anything.
>>345018125
This, blaming Shwig for the programmers not being able to do their job is retarded.
>>345007250
honestly if doxy was lead artist instead of s-purple the game could only benefit
>>345014052
Ay, stick EOY up in High or God tier. Dunno how you haven't played it yet because it's out and really good.
Parade Buster's demo was promising, it's going to be at least Good Tier because that group always pushes good straight shota content.
Your list is also really fucking small, step up your shit.
>>345017982
H bomb said so in his rant, as he apparently found out about shwigs new shit from him.
>>345017902
He programmed all the new shit that got added to the game, the overhaul of stats and ui . The whole helper system, events, new areas. Do you think the game was some sort of drag and drop where your shwiggy Messiah just threw his art into the void and it fucking magically coded itself?
>>345017857
Magic Shop by Akabur.
unfinished.
Guys who made the contract are idiots for letting him have so much power. Artist is a massive cunt who thinks about himself. Both sides did wrong.
>>345018314
If Onta was in charge you'd only be able to breed with horses.
will the female elf dom you yet?
>>345018382
But has subtank said anything? Right now thats just hearsay.
anyone have a link to the final version of this game? it looks like he cut all the links.
ITT: The Eternal Artist Jew scramble to defend one of their own
>>345018412
>by Akabur.
>unfinished.
color me surprised
>>345018212
You're still not understanding that poster, how the fuck does new ideas prevent them from doing work on old ideas?
You're suggesting shwig somehow took control of the entire project and systematically made sure no one else did their jobs.
Meanwhile on the side we got this artist that's pumping out tons of work, and we just have no visible sign of work from the rest of the team.
What's more likely, the artist took control and systematically kept everyone else on the team from doing any work while also continuing to pump out shitloads of art so they had nothing to show, not even incomplete work. Or they just didn't do their job.
>>345018268
What stopped programmers doing anything other than jack-shit before Schwig joined into their scam?
give me patreon money, i draw shitty weeb trash
>>345018412
Thanks. Now I go off to find a virus free torrent of it.
>>345018212
>three years
Dude are you listening to how long it takes to program this shit?
If they where really putting work into this they could have added all that dumb nonsense as well by now!
>>345018454
Does Subtank exist anywhere on the internet other than in a perpetual void of artists on instant messaging services? I know he made a Tumblr once but he only ever posted one thing on there.
Fact: The entire team behind Breeding Season consists of mongloids who have no brains for projects with that amount of popularity.
The guy who got jew'd has no idea on how to realize such a game and in general took everything far too easy and Mr.Jew himself is a lying greedy kike who now acts like he dindu nuffin but if he really would be innocent or just weak he wouldn't have hidden the new project and told his partner face to face that this shit is not going to work.
Both sides deserve all the suffering they get and now everyone has the right to sit infront of them with popcorn and coke.
>>345018212
Again, even if it's an absolutely retarded and overwhelming idea, how come they couldn't implement it after THREE YEARS OF DOING NOTHING?
How could the programmers not "keep up" given THREE YEARS of fuck off time?
>>345018268
P L A C E H O L D E R S
When you're programming your game, you do the entire thing without waiting for your artist. Once he draws his assets, you then put them into the game. NOT the other way around.
Do you know what happens when the artist decides he wants to start over? The conversation goes like this:
>"Hey guys, I want to redo all my art"
>Wow, that's going to set us back quite a bit, but whatever. It's not like this impacts our progress because we're using placeholders anyways.
And again, THREE YEARS.
>>345018148
Because new art needs new events created for it, which means more coding to accommodate them. He kept pushing new shit and revisions on shit that was already done. It's not always as simple as swapping old assets for new assets, especially if the art fag pushes new shit to be done on top of the old shit and almost entirely changes the events for the old shit.
>>345018547
Oh I'm not saying they weren't lazy assholes, but this game looks like everyone but Vanilly was doing their best to fuck up as much as possible for ages.
I'd even doubt Vanilly except the shit she did was the shit that was actually included every time the game got an update.
Why doesn't shwig just learn how to program?
>got the dropbox before it 404'd
goodbye twin lolis, you were the best part of the game, aside from the feral chocolate amazon
>>345018637
>P L A C E H O L D E R S
The original art from before Schwig joined were placeholders. The initial art he did was fine but then he kept fucking remaking them and when he wasn't remaking stuff he was spitballing stupid ideas trying to turn it into some kind of RPG or something.
>>345018382
>He programmed all the new shit that got added to the game, the overhaul of stats and ui . The whole helper system, events, new areas. Do you think the game was some sort of drag and drop where your shwiggy Messiah just threw his art into the void and it fucking magically coded itself?
Do you think ANY of that takes more than a few weeks to put together? Even giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming pure incompetence, there's absolutely no way all of that took more than a month or two. Yet the game has been in development for THREE YEARS.
>>345018487
Hey, I'm an artist and I've been very critical of S-Purple.
#notallartists
>>345018637
>PLACEHOLDER
It's funny, because game did use placeholders. So I don't get the excuse about "BUT HE KEPT REDRAWING EVERYTHING, SO WE COULD NOT DO SHIT!".
At least I still have Free Cities and TiTs to play.
>>345018613
>entire
lol fuck off vanilly did nothing wrong
>>345018717
Make a new one for us slowfags please.
>>345018823
More like 5-6 years.
>>345018542
>You're still not understanding that poster, how the fuck does new ideas prevent them from doing work on old ideas?
Because with new designs and silhouettes require the programmer to program different animations for them. It would be pointless to work on old things if everything was being overhauled because they'd have been pointing hours of programming into something that was already in need of replacement. You clearly don't understand how this works.
>>345013907
Shwig would never have even joined the team if there was someone regulating them, the dudes a vulture
PATREON IS A MISTAKE
JUST SELL YOUR SHIT
This shit better be on SWFchan or else I'm going to have to masturbate to my memory of that sexy breeder x catgirl scene.
>>345018637
The game was re-coded last year. Not sure to what extent though.
tax time is gonna be fun for those dudes
>>345019048
>Implying they don't lie about their taxes
>>345018637
>>345018863
It already used placeholders retard, Schwig was the art guy but was also second in command pushing new features to go along with his shit art, new features that required more coding, or redoing existing coding that was already fine. Stop defending the fucking jew, just because you're also an artfag.
>>345018637
The thing is, if you are a retard managing jews, the artist will pop new ideas for changing gameplay and events every week which means that the programmer has to redo his stuff.
Of course this is no excuse, three years is a well-debugged 100k+ loc project, not this
>>345018907
If you work with mongloids who can't do anything you most likely are also a mongloid.
>>345018987
Why do that when people WANT to give to you? If you only have a comic to sell for 5 bucks or whatever, then a giving person has no more means to give to you. Even though they want to give you more. But with a Patreon, you enable generous people to act generously.
>>345018974
Programming the animations wouldn't be that much work for the programmer honestly. Programmer doesn't make the animations.
>>345018717
Same here. Feels good having all those saves and assets at my disposal.
>>345018981
>Shwig would never have even joined
So don't hire him?
The game only got big after he joined, so one could see the success connected to his art, not H-bombs game.
H-bomb should be glad he got the easy life that he did for the past couple years and move on.
>>345019103
So wheres the coding? You're saying he forced in more features, but where is any of that actually shown in the work?
>>345014742
What happened with that project?
>>345006529
yeah sure i'll draw for it
but only if i get 51% of the revenue
>>345018987
This is how I feel about supporting artists.
I give a bunch of money to japanese artists every month over patreon because I want to support them and let them know that they have a dedicated english speaking fanbase. But for western artists, I either give them the bare minimum per month, or nothing at all and just go directly to them for a commission.
>>345019103
>lazy ass programmer confirmed.
>>345006529
I want to fuck fBreeder!
>Doxy propositions to take over art for BS
>tfw it'll never happen, but the thought of Doxy's art in a rather meaty porn game is exhilarating
>>345019293
In the MEGA link, granted Hbomb was also shit and a shit manager, but piling more work on him sure as fuck didn't help.
>>345013815
Well actually i'm pretty sure Fenoxo said that he was done with coc and is now solely focusing on tits.
https://www.fenoxo.com/
blog here, the post saying coc is over was somewhere on their.
>>345019103
Notice how all actual content only came from Vanilly side?
>>345019458
>Implying Doxy wouldn't do what Shwig did
>>345019146
She literally is the reason why the game is survived this long doing apparently almost all of the artistic work. She was a saint surrounded in mongloids
I like Shwiggy's art and I would love a game in his style, but I really don't want to fund this guy. There's just so much distrust at this point, it'd be foolish to pour money in a gay who's been known to run away with it.
>>345019196
Programming the animations wouldn't be that much work for the programmer honestly. Programmer doesn't make the animations.
But they still have to implement said animations into the game. The majority of the animations consist of character arms and legs broken up into parts. The programmer has to then make it happen. It was publicly known that he kept remaking designs over and over so it makes sense that every time they completed something it was immediately scrapped for a new style that clashed with the old, or that he would hold off from adding it until they were sure he was sticking with it. Imagine you just finished implementing 5 new characters, their events and all that shit, then you get word that you have to redo half of the things that clash with the new art style.
>>345019479
I'm talking coding.
>>345019425
So basically you're an unapologetic weeaboo cocksucker?
NEW BREAD!!!
>>345019625
>>345019625
>>345019625
NEW BREAD!!!
>>345019582
His stuff is hit-or-miss for me. Some designs look nice, other designs look pukeworthy.
>>345019425
>I either give them the bare minimum per month, or nothing at all
the bare minimum is nothing at all, which is more than they deserve in any case
>>345014901
>>345019335
>furry porn game project, had a massive amount of artist contributions.
>had a few big names behind it
>the patreon was raking in cash.
>project heads abscond with the money leaving every artist in the dust.
at least that's how i remember it going down. either way it was a huge embarrassment.
>>345019636
That wouldn't cause the programmer to slow down their work at all. As someone else said, placeholders do that fine. What the programmer would have to do is just take the final result and plug it in to the code and hes done.
>>345019537
Holy shit, his art is bad.
>>345019425
Japs don't do commission?
>>345019552
>implying Doxy even has slightly as much talent as Shwig
I don't think /v/ understands the implications of making a game, you don't just spend 4 seconds on it then pass it around, it's serious work. Seriously, ask any game dev and you'll know just how much work I had to do on BS.
>>345019658
Just open the FLA files and see all the coding yourself retard, this isn't /g/. Code isn't something you can paste here and show so easily.
>>345019582
Now that I'm aware subtank was a part of the project, I have to suspect that these boobs were drawn by him.
>>345019662
>Be an unapologetic weeaboo cocksucker
>Get quality content like Final Fuck
>Get to laugh at unapologetic westaboo cocksuckers as all they get is dead projects and unfinished projects from their devs
>>345019791
The game already had placeholders though. Did you play the game? Some of the things that were added were placeholders and some were kept until completely finished.
>>345018349Because I'm waiting for a translation to increase my enjoyment. And yes a translation is on the way. Already got like 30% translated.
Small? Yes but I don't really have any games that i would include into atleast good. And I've played many.
>>345019817
Schwig is certainly a better designer than Doxy but I think Doxy has the capability of reproducing his designs and filling in the gaps. Doxy doesn't have any experience animating though.
https://www.patreon.com/CloudMeadow
Taking all bets, how much will this get in one year?
Keep in mind furries are rich, desperate, and horny as fuck for this shit.
>>345019791
Says the artcuck who knows nothing about programming, especially with an artfag changing how skeleton animation specifications work every fucking time, on top of coding new events that aren't going to code themselves. Just because you have some shitty RPG Maker experience doesn't mean you know shit about making a game.
>>345018974
You're fucking retarded, you're talking about programmers doing the animations and that's a different job. The animators hand them a static animation and all they do is tick it on at certain triggers. That doesn't take any work.
>>345019895
I do not know who that is
>>345019582
Did Shwiggy come up with all these character designs? He's really good at that, if so. Shame all these ideas are in this type of person though.
>>345019817
Doxy was an alright artist before but then started getting trash quickly. He now has this weird things where all his characters have this weird angular body-type regardless of being petite, skinny or thick and these giant puffy areas. It's hard to explain. You'd have to look at his mid-early art and then his recent. I guess trash would be going too far but he isn't as good as he was before.
>>345019958
You do realize you're only proving my point right? You're saying what I'm trying to tell you. An artist changing their artstyle or whatever won't slow down the coding one bit. Because they use placeholder graphics that can be easily replaced for the final versions.
>>345020074
Sounds like you have no idea what you're talkin about, bub.
>>345019895
Who is this Subtank guy? I've heard about him but everything about him seems to be wrapped around a veil of mist.
What it comes down too, which do you think is more important?
>An artist who has a lot of talent, but poor work ethic
>An artist who while may not be the best artist, is pretty decent but also has a good work ethic
I think the context matters. As an employer, you need the work to be done. While ideas and concepts are important and great, if you have no means of executing them (especially on a timely manner) then they don't really matter in the end.
>>345020218
Says the art retard who doesn't know shit about how Flash coding works, or coding in general works, it's not as simple as just shoving shit and the engine instantly handling everything, especially in a shit framework like Flash.
>>345020315
>>345020109
>I do not know who that is
He was one of the artists working on the game apparently. He draw the best tits. He 's a better smut artist than S-Purple in my opinion.
He hides. He's super secretive. He used to post a lot on /i/. That's how I know him.
>>345020129
But you're saying it like they haven't used any placeholders when they have. Also, sometimes people don't want to update a game with incomplete shit all the time. I'm trying to say that even with the placeholders some stuff tends to get held back to be used as a major update later when it's finished. Did you download the dropbox stuff? There is a lot of shit that is place-holdered and scrapped. What you're saying they should have done is already done, just most of them weren't added in public releases.
>>345020395
So basically you're saying flash sucks.
