Monster Hunter thread?
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is it worth getting a 3ds or a 2ds for this game?
>>343959842
it's worth getting a psp for mhfu
>>343959889
is mhfu the best in the series?
>>343959991
No.
>>343959991
>>343960030
It's by far the most difficult and a great entry to the series
If you manage to solo MHFU you're basically ready to jump into online play
>>343959842
For this game? Eh
For this game and the two other Monster Hunters on it? Definitely. Even if you play backwards you'll still get a lot out of it, although I'd recommend playing this with the launch crowd and then jumping back to 3U and then 4Uassuming Generations is your intro to MH
>>343958852
I bought the game, why don't I like it?
>>343959991
It was the last Monster Hunter game without any gimmicks. For some people, that's a big deal.
>>343960138
>It's by far the most difficult and a great entry to the series
why has it not released yet. I can only hunt narga with preset equip so many times before i pang for more.
>>343960391
M-m-mad?
>>343960138
>It's by far the most difficult
Flipping a coin 20 times in a row onto heads is even more difficult, I guess that makes doing that better than Mon Hunter then.
>retarded hitboxes I shouldn't even have to mention this shit
>doesn't have ANY verticality that 4 added to the series making every fight a fucking blank arena fight
>less movesets on weapons
>is on a handheld to fucking boot, so all the problems are even MORE glaringly obvious because the graphics can't distract you from them even a little
>less monsters than other games in the series
Oh but I guess that's all fine because the plesioth can cart you while 50 meters away.
>>343960291
It's very weeaboo
Archaic concept
3DS control is objectively shit for MH
240p
We're not even touching why the newer games are shit in the context of the series
>>343960632
don't get so autismal
of course it won't appeal to everyone but i still prefer it because of it's simplicity and lots of unique monsters that haven't been seen since
i started with Freedom Unite and i still think3rd Gen is the best
>>343960950
>b-but I like it
Nobody is telling your pathetic ass not to like it, but you can stop posting your shit opinion any time.
>>343960632
>doesn't have ANY verticality that 4 added to the series making every fight a fucking blank arena fight
the verticality is cancer though, the 3DS doesn't have the proper camera controls for that shit
>>343961197
>the verticality is cancer though
Yes, anything that saves the series from endless plain arena fights is cancer.
>the 3DS doesn't have the proper camera controls for that shit
It's not ideal, no, but the button that points the camera towards the monster helps a lot in that regard.
Come kill the owl
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>>343961524
I'm kinda happy that damaging mounted monsters helps in generations, but I've seen a lot of people get thwacked by narga's tail by going in at the wrong times because they were too cocky
See, this is why you're supposed to start these threads with bait. At least people can fuck around and pretend to take OP seriously instead of immediately hating each other for opinions.
>>343961912
Best way since the demo is to insult people and give them a room to join
Something along the lines of "get in here cunts, narga cat rape dungeon"
>>343961042
All the games have their ups and downs. Hard for me to pick a favorite. Did you like swimming or was it everything else that makes it your favorite gen?
>>343961703
That was fun. It's been over a year since I've played mh4. Looking forward to getting gud again. Well done lads
>>343958852
Monster Hunter is one of the most boring games I've ever played and I still don't get why people like it.
>>343960950
>unique monsters that haven't been seen since
You mean all the ones that are in 4U and Gen with updated hitboxes, AI, attacks, physics, and mechanics?
>>343962531
i did enjoy underwater fights, but what i mostly liked was that Tri sort of felt like a 'back to the drawing board' game after FU, they stripped everything down to the basics and pretty much had an entire cast of new really well designed monsters and just 3 returning ones
it felt like they were attempting to sort of make the world feel a bit more like nature and take more influence from real creatures, instead of everything just being a flying wyvern
Portable 3rd and 3G expanded on it nicely i think
Have the 4U servers been shitting themselves, or is there something wrong on my end?
I've been dropped from half the games I join for no noticeable reason
>>343963006
What games do you like anon?
gen 4 has the best diva song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gluF4tQByO8
>>343963639
I agree that having a fresh start really did wonders for the games. They even made their first good giant monster fight. It kind of felt like they really got their shit together in most ways. I did miss the darker atmosphere of the older games though. I'm not sure that "darker" or "atmosphere" are the right words to use, but there is a distinct difference in the moods presenting before and after Tri. At least FU is still decent enough that I can go back to that if I'm craving it.
>>343961912
So I can't just rely on other people to not be colossal spergs?
>>343964598
Never.
How did we go from this...
>>343964787
... To this?
>>343964554
yeah i think the designs themselves became less fantasy and more whimsical, again probably not the right word
all the wyverns and elder dragons in games before FU feel distinctly more impressive and rare in the world, where current monsters feel more like fauna
also everything became a lot more colourful, and less moody
one of my favourite locations was the Swamp, its so bleak and you just know you will find some dangerous creatures there
Birb
>they will never bring back qurupeco
>but that fucker kut-ku and garuga will be in every game
>>343960632
>Oh but I guess that's all fine because the plesioth can cart you while 50 meters away.
Jesus fuck 4Ubabby git gud, try actually play FU past 3* village. Plesioth is actually easy, extremely predictable.
>>343966073
All the monsters are extremely easy and predictable once you play it enough, retard. And trust me, you will be if you want those armour sets.
>>343966073
>plesioth is extremely easy
Doesn't make his hitboxes any less broken
Boy I can't wait for this game to be released! You can all see how fearsome I am with a hammer as I use it to slap your ass while you carry me because I'm too dumb to get good!
Remember to chop that tail for me oniichan!
>>343966073
I'd tell you to git gud and learn to parse what other people are saying, but I'm well aware of the significant disadvantages subhumans have to actual humans.
>>343966051
>not having a game with all 3
Get a load of this chumpbut one exceptionbring back Konchu bowling, let Kut Ku do it at any rank
>>343964554
I agree, in 1, dos and the portable series the setting felt more hostile, like hunting was a struggle against nature rather than fun anime times with friends
not that the series has ever been super serious, but they really started hamming it up in 3
still my favorite series though
How do we fix monhun, /v/?
Pic related, they were on the right track.
For anyone who has played X/Gen already, are the guild quest monster's health pools more comprable to prior entries (i.e. pretty high) or 4u (not quite as high)?
>>343967385
I've done like LR shit only, but even Ostalgoa was ez with 2 people. Plus, I only had sergerios LS
>>343965643
JHOOOOOOOOO
>>343967346
Let Tencent take over
>>343965048
I think the difficulty has a lot to do with making the older games' atmosphere.
In Freedom 1, every hunt was a battle. Every kill a victory. Even monsters I've killed before, even going back to the game after dumping 700 hours into newer ones.
In newer games, there's still that thrill of victory, but I go into each hunt assuming that I'm going to win. It's just a matter of how long it'll take.
>>343967346
Put it on a platform that isn't a handheld so the game can look like it doesn't belong on the PS1.
>>343967385
HP is pretty much the same as 4U with a few exceptions like Akantor which somehow has more HP than the 4U G-rank one.
Stagger points are higher
>>343959991
I'd recommend getting a patched MHP3rd iso and playing it on your pc with PPSSPP and see if you like it.
Why P3rd? Because it is the easiest one in the series and it will surely ease you into the game, especially if you have no senpais to guide your hips during hunts.It also looks fucking stunning for a PSP game
If you got comrades to play, anything goes, really.
POST WEAPONFU
POST STYLEFU
POST OPINIONS
AERIAL GREATSWORD IS THE MOST FUN COMBINATION
THIS CANNOT BE ARGUED
>>343966504
That was a pretty good hentai Im not gonna lie
>>343967346
You buy the everloving shit out of the next title they bother putting on console.
>>343968318
Funlance
Guild I guess
I don't care if I knock you down, I just want to blast things
>>343968318
Guild Greatsword
Adept Hammer
I don't like my weapons being smarter than I am
>>343968420
>Freedom 3
>>343968853
that was going to be the name for localized P3rd. It's still on Capcom's site
post room ids
>>343967346
MHXG so 4th gen doesn't end up as wasted potential.
Revamp more of the 1st/2nd gen monsters.
>>343968318
>weaponfu
Idk, I'm a huge whore and keep jumping from weapon to weapon. I'm in for the SnS now, though.
>stylefu
Adept. Free invincibility frames instead of gimmicky one press flashy attack? Yes, please.
>opinions
I am so very afraid that this "style" thing will catch on. I honestly would prefer if you had perform a certain combo / input to trigger it. The "hotkey for awesome attack :^)" is cancer in my eyes.
Also I don't like the Aerial style simply because I'm not a fan of mounting monsters. And I sure as fuck won't give up my normal attacks for that. It looks cool, though.I miss quru
>>343960928
>3DS control is objectively shit for MH
But the control is no different aside from not being able to CLAW. With a CPP or a N3DS it's better than a PSP ever was.
>>343965048
Honestly most non-flagship monsters are fine. Elder dragons get away with it because elder dragons, but they really shouldn't be making flagship monsters neon, tron-line, clashing-colour, freak-of-nature body design monstrosities. Like, most of the new non-elder, non-flagship monsters of 4/4U were perfectly fine. Great, even.
Gammoth is fine although he could definitely have his colours dulled just a tad.
Mizutsune is lovely and works pretty well actually.
Glavenus needs to have his front-swept spines scaled down a little bit and his colour scheme dulled just a tad.
Astalos needs a LOT of work. An insectoid wyvern would be really cool, I love his stained glass dragonfly wing webbing and his colours but the number of edges and his horn is so ridiculously over the top it becomes hard to appreciate him.
Brachydios should lose or at least tone down the horn, sand off those airplane wings on his cheeks, and turn his tail into a matchstick.
Gore's fine because his sort of alien design works well for the role he plays in 4U's setting, plus he's an elder dragon.
Seregios... I feel like something needs a tweak but I can't exactly put my finger on it. I want to say it's his horn and the way his scales extend out. Like it'd be cool if he JUST rattled them like a snake or something, but going full pinecone is a little over the top, y'know? It ruins the sleekness of his design as a flying wyvern.
Zinogre's shells feel like they jut out too much and he's too pointy in general, plus the whole tron line thing bugs me. Maybe if we saw a swarm of fulgurbugs fly out of his vents and cling to him, thus showing off the symbiosis and giving a reason for tron lines along his body.
>>343969075
Frontier and MHO already revamped 1st/2nd gen monsters. Frontier even did for 3rd gen monsters.
Kill the owl
Use weapons you don't normally use
I started trying out bow today
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Any MHX players know where to get Monster Keenbones? I tried Kiranico but its fucked up on my phone.
>>343969886
Frontier didn't touch shit with older monsters, in fact many of them still have really bad hitboxes like Guren's charge. All Frontier has really done is continuously add new variations of said monsters and forgetting to fix their old ones.
In fact, "changes" to old content are only centered around the player like the extended base-weapon movesets and pseudo-gen 4 climbing
>>343968318
LS
Striker
I thought I would love adept a lot mire but thw distance the roll puts between you and the monster is retarded and the spirit slash is easy to whiff because it's a straight vertical slice
Should I buy a new 3ds xl and start playing MH4U or wait and get the MHGen n3ds design when it comes out 10 days from now?
>>343968318
BOOMSTICK
STRIKER
Gunlance's frontier iteration should be more closely replicated in mainline series. They kind of ruined it with X, but on the plus side Striker GL exists for greater stab/shoot combo potential than Guild. I've recently started replaying FU as gunlance main, also mained GL in frontier and really would love to see them un-fuck the weapon for the next mainline game. Heat gauge needs to go.
>>343970439
Appreciate it immensly anon. Gotta get that Cheda Blade upgraded
>>343970331
Most old monsters all have tons of new attacks, but in G rank. Yes they practically never touched the low rank versions from Dos.
>>343968318
Hammer, always has been always will be.
Guild, I use all the moves that are lost in other styles. Aerial Hammer might have some potential with things like Fast Charge
I think some of the supers have way too huge attack areas, and will be a god damn pain in multiplayer. I'm looking at you, switchaxe.
does MHX have gypceros
this is important
>>343968318
Aerial GS gets boring pretty quick though
Plus from what I understand it's X's biggest shitter magnet
>>343971202
Yes
>>343971202
It does
>>343971225
I think Aerial in general is going to be a pretty huge shitter magnet. Its like the new insect glaive, but now you can do it with any weapon.
>>343969927
player 2
I'm really fucking sorry about that, I had no idea what the fuck i was doing on lance, and ended up shitting the bed hard at the beginning.
>>343971528
Player 1
It's all good
>>343971225
Granted I only played it once in the demo, I'll see if it gets a bit more boring in the main game.
Do you have any other fun weapon combinations? Aerial in general seems fun for most weapons. I tried Adept LS, it seemed a bit weird at first. Swaxe (or Sword, as it will be in the main game) might be the actual magnet for scrubs though
>>343968106
>tfw no pals to play mohun with.
>>343971882
Host a room. Fag.
>no wandering temnoceran as a Deviljho/Rajang equivalent
>still no new fanged wyvern
>>343971820
Aerial is fun for low rank, but once monsters start really hurting it can become a bit of a liability
Adept hammer is pretty fun with the super uppercut, any of the adept weapons with perfect guards are very satisfying once you get the hang of using it
>>343971882
literally play online
>>343971820
STRIKER LS
You get to use your "heh....nothin personnel monster" move(gives you one spirit aura), absolute evade and the half crescent slash(gives full spirit for x amount of seconds) all in one
It's really fun and the hunter art combos are strong. No fade slash into spirit slash though
>>343972290
BUSHIDO LS
>dodges through your attack
>quick combo for spirit gague
>pssh
>>343972258
I haven't tried hammeror even most other weapons since I was anbut sure anon. I'm assuming it plays a little more like mobile GS? I'll check out a couple of videos.LSfagback in the day
>>343972290
>>343972448
I'll give LS another shot in the demo. Tried out bullshido but wasn't too used to aiming the "insta-attack" after adeptly dodging.
>>343968318
>Aerial greatsword
>spam jump and attack for 10 minutes
no thanks
>>343972640
You'll whiff that shit alot. Monsters recover too quickly imo
>>343972640
I've been doing it a bunch. Does take some getting used to but it's so much fun. Rolling through a monster's roar when you first meet it to get insta white is so fucking great.
I am bummed that the LS counter art isn't in the demo though.
>>343972907
But the LS counter art is in the demo? You mean Critical Juncture, or is there another?
>>343970572
>Heat gauge needs to go
No. It needs to be improved. It takes the weapon in a good direction, it just needs some work to be better. It shouldn't be given up on entirely like the 4U LS aura was.
This is the smartest way to make gunlance users use both the gun and the lance, instead of endgame being completely dominated by one or the other. They just need to unfuck the damage values a tiny bit.
What I'd like to see though is the heat gauge work differently for normal, long or wide types and, on top of that, make gunlances tweakable like bowguns, to pick the type of shot type you want (and as a result, also the type of heat gauge you want). This way if you want to pick a gunlance based on status or element or make a new one, you're not stuck with a shot type you don't like.
Normal types should be allowed to keep Red if they overheat (since it's actually pretty easy to go over with a full burst) but then drop down to nothing once it wears off, and even if they lock the heat in with WF, they'll lose another chunk of heat once cooldown wears off, meaning they'll have to build it back up again (not that it's hard with full bursts).
Long types should have no heat loss from using WF, making it so that you can technically WF right away the moment you cool down, but can't shell or else you'll overheat until you WF, or unless you poke a bit. Maybe it'd also lose heat a little faster in general due to the super lenient WF. It also means you can technically WF right at the beginning of Red.
Wide would simply have no overheat state, but it loses heat a lot faster from pokes and waiting around so you need to shell constantly to keep it up (which is pretty much what Wides are built for regardless).
I dunno, I think the ideas need a little more tweaking.
>>343973167
I thought we just had the slash, the crescent, and the evade.
>>343971202
Sadly.
>>343972907
But it is, I know the guild style has it.
>>343959991
4 Ultimate is the best in the series.
>>343973389
FuckI've only been using bushido[\spoiler]
Adept Hammer's blue charge is fucking sick
>>343973317
Whats crescent? Theres the Sakura Slash which is the slash that increases your Aura gauge, Critical Juncture, which is a counter, and Absolute Evasion.
I still need to pre-order this game, but I don't feel like going to gamestop.
>>343973232
I was a bit hasty in saying it needs to go entirely.
I like the suggestions you're putting forward to improve it - in my time playing X managing the heat gauge wasn't a major issue, but as you mentioned the damage inconsistency was the main issue. Shelling damage in X definitely should have been higher with regards to each level of GL heat.
Guess we can only wait til next generation to see where they take it, which hopefully will return to a home console.
>>343973664
The one that keeps your gague maxed for a while.
>Tonfas will never escape from Frontier
;_;
>>343973664
Half Crescent Slash. Charges up for a bit, before unleashing the first spirit slash that gives you unlimited spirit for x seconds.
It gives the full spirit regardless of whether the move hits the monster or not
>>343973798
>>343973960
Is that in the demo? Which style?
>>343974060
I didn't play the demo. I'm talking about X in general.
That half crescent slash is really good because motion values on spirit slashes are 30 for each hit and always have innate mind's eye. That's a lot of free damage in those seconds.
>>343973863
I'm more interested in some of their old monsters.
ANY MHG DEMO ROOMS?
>>343967882
>Put it on a platform that isn't a handheld so the game can look like it doesn't belong on the PS1.
You do know that MH has enjoyed commerical success BECAUSE it's on a handheld right?
>>343974597
start a narga room
>>343974843
>>343974597
NAG ROOM ON MHG DEMO.
30-1420-8083-1219
pass 1111
GONNA TAKE A PISS.
>>343974945
where you go
>>343968420
>game is put on the least selling console of the gen
No shit it got low sales, I ain't saying it would have sold 10 million or something but if you slapped it out on PS4 I can assure you it would have broken over a million easy.
Narga hunt
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>>343975271
started ill host more soon.
>>343968106
I have an old psp that i've been playing MHFU on,
i've been enjoying it and want to play more atm, but i can't due to an injury
>>343973232
Continuing from this post, maybe if arts and styles are phased out in the next entry or so, we can fit some of them into the Gunlance somehow.
Maybe the Wyvern's Breath can be a modified WF that sticks you in cooldown, but doesn't lock the gauge. You'll still lose heat from poking and over time and have to maintain it with shelling, but you'll be up to Red right away, meaning it won't be so painful if you have to chase a monster around and as a result of the heat mechanic end up losing heat.
Not quite sure how to fit in the rocket thruster slam though. I mean, in Generations it does a reloading animation so maybe we can do something with that.
Maybe you can sort of charge it up by reloading multiple times even though you've already got shells? Yeah. Work it out like there's a secondary chamber you're dumping extra shells into. One redundant reload will prime it, and the second redundant reload will overstock it and force you to eat up all the extra shells in the secondary chamber to rocket yourself forward. But you can't stock the chamber if you're missing shells, because otherwise it'll just be a normal reload.
Maybe different shell types will have different distances, with Wide having the shortest and Normal having the longest?
The fuckhuge fireball can go suck a dick though, it's way too over the top.
>>343973794
I don't get why they're still so fucking stuck on the idea of shell levels.
Honestly I'd rather see shell damage be based off of lance gunlance rarity so there's a greater level of consistency at the end even with shit tier raw damage on a joke weapon, and more room to tweak the values by small amounts for the devs.
Thought: Elemental Gunpowder. Changes the type of element of the minimal fire damage on shells, but more importantly will modify the neutral damage upwards depending on the elemental weakness of the hitzone, but you can only bring like 30 of each and you can't combine them on the fly? Too much?
where are the lewds
>>343977292
Dunno.
>>343975640
good hunt, no carts
thats what I like to see
>>343975640
Player 3 here
Sorry I fucked up the sleep bomb. Noticed the narga fell asleep too late.
>>343974945
FUG
>>343977909
lol gg on that Nacg we ALMOST got but time up
First time ever fighting that monster and first time ever longblade.
>>343977875
you son of a bitchyou were a vital asset to our hunt and helped greatly
Narg room
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>>343968318
>Weaponfu
Hammer
>Stylefu
Adept. There's no reason to go guild with Hammer when Adept is a straight upgrade and loses no useful moves. Aerial can come too depending on the monster.
>Opinions
Adept style is probably the best style for every weapon now. Other styles can get better times but I theorize that the sheer safety Adept style gives makes it the easiest style to do hard quests with even if they take a few minutes longer. Therefore tier lists should no longer be based solely on clear times.
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7243 Narga Demo pick whatever you want.
>>343978592
>loses no useful moves
It loses the uppercut which is a good, high-reaching move and is great for closing distances. Furthermore, you can't combo from the first charge, meaning you can't use charge 1 to reset a triple pound combo, and have to go to charge 2.
Also there's going to be a lot of people that make the mistake of trying to hold onto the strong charge for too long instead of just letting it go, never mind the people that try to take attacks on purpose and end up eating shit because the monster might have variable timing on its attack or because they overestimated their abilities.
Not to mention that it only has one hunter art. Consider that with Guild, you can use the Battle Ready Evade in addition to some other art, which not only leaves your weapon out but also sharpens it a little bit.
>adept style is probably the best style for every weapon
Not really. Not by a long shot. Some weapons have really lacklustre adept counters.
>>343978117
trip city
>>343978117
Player 1
Good hunt. Sorry I had a slow start.
That fucking owl
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>>343978592
>loses no useful moves
the uppercut is extremely useful. It closes distance very well, has one of the highest vertical hitboxes of all the hammer's attacks, and does really good stun damage. The combination of these three attributes make it very useful for hitting monsters heads from a ways away. I can't count the number of times its gotten clutch stuns with it. Not to mention it lets you launch other players for silly aerial combos.
I'm not disagreeing that Adept is good however, I just don't necessarily think it is outright better than Guild.
cross has to be like the easiest monster hunter period. It's laughable.What went so wrong from the concept of 140's?
>>343980308
How long have you been playing the MH series?
>>343979324
The uppercut is good but it's not a bread and butter move. If I wanted to move fast I would either be close enough to adept dodge and run or far enough away that sheathing my hammer and running is faster.
>Furthermore, you can't combo from the first charge, meaning you can't use charge 1 to reset a triple pound combo, and have to go to charge 2.
And nothing of value was lost. It's quicker to do a golfswing combo, wait for the animation to end, then golfswing combo again. It'll also probably outdamage the r-x move combo because you can squeeze in two golfswings when a monster's vulnerable when the second golfswing would miss by doing the r-x combo.
>>343980424
Played online since the ps2 original. skipped alll psp games but FU and P3rd tho
>>343980585
Just as I expected. I have news for you.
It isn't easier, you're just good.
>>343980490
>the uppercut is good but it's not a bread and butter move
It absolutely is. I use it whenever I'm closing distances, and it does quite a lot of damage and KO.
>>343978825
holy fuck that last part...
>Player 2 leaves
>four seconds later it dies
>>343980490
>uppercut is good but it's not a bread and butter move
It most absolutely is, and I would even say its vital for fight some of the faster monsters. The Adept-dodge-charge moves take too long to land to be useful against those ones anyways, outside of times when it's already locked down.
>>343980706
Do you put focus on your hammer? If I wanted to get in close fast in 4U I would just roll because charging took too long. It doesn't seem worth it.
>>343979948
2 spots left
>>343980889
The whole reason you don't focus on a hammer is lvl 2 charging. It zips right by it.
>>343980889
>focus
Fuck no, m8. Focus would skip past level 2 too fast. I usually start charging as I get close to the monster, either with the intention of uppercutting as I get in range and it turns around, or superpounding if it shifts closer.
>>343979948
>>343980951
pass is 7243, actually
After messing around with the Gunlance I'm still very unsure of the changes. I can get myself into red quickly enough if the monster positions himself right and use Wyvern Fire to lock it in but it still feels odd. Now I just can't imagine using this in teamplay unless I aim the lance up and fire shots off that way or hope a teammate isn't in the way so I keep myself in the red.
Also I swear this Owl loves divebombing everything every chance he gets.
>>343980889
Focus isn't nearly as useful for the hammer as people seem to think it is. Exhaustion, stun, and part breaker, are all much better.
>>343981117
I used to play like that way back when I started in 3U, then I found I got faster times by either sheathing and running up to a far away monster so I could start the golfswing combo, or by rolling into a close monster so I could start the golfswing combo. The whole charge mechanic rarely factors into how I play and the basic r-x combo I only still do out of habit.
Come with me and you'll see how much we hate the Owl
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>>343981263
>Stun
Are you talking about ko king? that paltry 10% boost that can't be stacked with the food buff?
no no no.
Hammer is all about raising attack period. If you're not running C+2, ATKXL(honed blade), and we, don't bother bringing hammer.
>>343958852
I dont know why but hunter styles feels like shit.... TFW I'll probably gonna be using guild style all the way on generations
>>343981637
>Hammer is all about raising attack period. If you're not running C+2, ATKXL(honed blade), and we, don't bother bringing hammer.
And that's why adept is so good for hammer. Fighting Tigrex without any form of defense is complete hell. Better to bring a Greatsword and have a shield too or a weapon that has less laggy moves and benefits more from evasive skills.
>>343980308
Wait for XG or 5G.
>>343981128
Fuck me. I'm retarded.
>>343978117
is he a bat or a tiger bird?
>>343981772
Same. The styles feel too gimmicky, even if that's kinda the point.
Something about them just turns me off from the whole deal.
>>343981985
A cat
>>343981772
It's a mix bag for me. Adept Longsword really is like easy mode and closing the distance to pull of its spirit combo really surprised me though I can't see myself using anything but Guild Style on Sword and Shield. Though after experiencing Striker Lance just to get back the original 3rd poke I'm sticking to that also.
Everything else just feels experimental
>>343959842
none of them are playable, the graphics are awful
>>343982158
That's pretty much the point of Gen though, throw shit at a wall and see what sticks.
Styles are too disruptive imo, Arts can stay as long as they fine tune them to not invalidate entire playstyles(all the SA arts)
If they are going to keep both I expect serious work to fine tune things.
>>343982349
I don't mind the styles, but they do feel weird. Aerial kind of defeats the identity of insect glaive being an aerial weapon, though it is still fun to play.
Striker is hit or miss on most weapons
Adept guard is awkward as hell to use and adept roll is a bit funky.
>>343981864
sometimes it just takes being smart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAF3kQn6osc
>made a 4U character today
>already 3 quests away from shaggy maggy
Fuck these games go fast when you don't farm anything.
What's the best weapon/style combo? And why is it Aerial Gunlance?
>>343982778
Fair point, but you're not always going to be fighting Tigrex on top of a large grass mesh that it can get stuck in with plenty of room to maneuver. Sometimes you're going to be fighting a Tigrex in an area that's been divided into 4 tiny sections, get knocked into a corner by a glancing blow, get hit by the tigrex spin, which is too big to dodge through and quicker than your slow climbing animation so you can't get out of the corner, and then get shouted to death while you're stunned.
>>343970539
Wait and get the MHGen edition, you can get MH4U later for cheaper, many people will trade in their copies
Are they in Generations, bros?
Is Nibelsnarf?
>Have no friends to play with
>Haven't played a MH game since 2 so going to be rusty
>Wasn't even that good in the first place
You guys will still play with me right? I'll pretend I'm being useful.
>>343984002
Even in the main games people don't really care unless you're doing dumb shit like going in with no armor skills or triple-carting.
Post a demo room and we'll help you get back into the swing of things.
>>343983906
Uragaan, Duramboros, Nibelsnarf are in.
>>343983906
Uragaan, Duramboros, and Niblesnarf are in. Sadly no Barroth tho.
>>343984476
Whats the difference between a Barroth and a Uragaan?
>>343984564
One rolls around a lot and has a big chin. The other taught me how good lance is in mh3
>>343983720
Adding onto this, Hammer wasn't viable in 4U, and it wasn't even Tigrex's fault. it was this corner's fault. In 3U you had wide open areas to dance around the monsters until an opportunity presented itself, and while 4U had similarly large areas, often they were sectioned off into ledges that you had to slow down to get across, whether you were going up OR down them. If I am fighting Tigrex and I find myself in a position like this and I have a Greatsword I could shield its attacks and come out of them relatively unharmed. If I'm fighting Tigrex with a Hammer I'm fucked, because its moves have hitboxes too big to dodge through. If we're going to keep having level geometry like this then hammer absolutely needs an escape option.
>>343984331
>>343984476
Shame about Barroth.
But at least I'll have:
>Demon King Blademaster Duramboros
>Fat Blademaster Uragaan
>/operator/ Gunner 'snarf
>>343984564
Barroth is headbutts and mud.
Uragaan is roly-polys, chin-slams and *PRRRRFFFFT*
>>343984564
Uragaan uses its chin to attack hunters as well as attempting to roll over you. Barroth plays in the mud and is best monster.Why didn't he make the cut anons?
>>343985368
Not even some 4U monsters like Nerscylla or Diablos made it in.
>>343985527
>Nercylla didn't make the cut
Fucking one job.
>>343985180
Like check this shit. So cool.
>ablative armor for when bitches try to bust out their .47 and start shit
>backpack for more /operator/ tools
>full-face mask
>>343985527
>Diablos
>4U monster
Umm, Diablos isn't a 4U monster... He's been in this forever.
>>343985527
>No Diablos
Thank Go-
>No Nerscylla
GODDAMMIT FUCKING CAPCOM ONE OF THE BEST MONSTERS FROM 4TH GEN AND THEY FUCK IT ALL UP.
I'm not liking MHG much from the demo. The Great Sword is neat with adept style as it allows you to attack more often, but when compared to old/guild style with the strong charge attack, I'm not sure there's a noticeable difference at the end of the day. I guess free invincible frames are always good, though. The Charge Blade doesn't even benefit significantly from adept style as far as I can tell, that weapon already had excellent mobility, block, parry, and dps options in MH4U.
I don't think the styles add enough to pull me back into the game, especially because there are so many repeat monsters once again. Is the monster AI in this game even as good as it was in MH4U? That game's monsters got really damn dangerous and clever in G Rank, particularly the variations.
>>343986019
Much better, especially the variants and ferocious monsters.
Ferocity is a lot more dangerous than Frenzy, think frenzied S.Queen's charge but on every monster.
>>343985527
>>343985676
>>343985902
I've gotta ask, why cut any monster from 4U? Cutting the alternate colors makes sense, but was there just no way to fit everything in? Did they think it would be overkill?
>>343986019
Adept CB has ridiculous guard point opportunities so I can see it being THE parry style.
It's pretty fun so far but my muscle memory from the 4U CB fucks me up in MHG
>>343986594
How so? What guard points are different with adept style as opposed to MH4U CB?
>>343986423
They always did this. 4U is still on the market, gotta give it some unique content.
You fags complain about a bore like Nerscylla, meanwhile they had fucking Tigrex in P3rd and cut it from MH3U.
>>343985676
>>343985939
Great Jaggi, Congalala, Nerscylla, Basarios, Gravios, Monoblos, Diablos, Dahren Mohran, Dalamadur, Gogmazios, and Fatalis are all missing. No material trader either.
>>343986423
Giant monsters would need adjustments now that we have the style system.
Knowing Capcom, the others are being reserved for a potential G rank version.
>>343987028
Basarios, Great Jaggi, Gravios and Monoblos can all fuck off.
>tfw solo'ing Raging Brachydios in 4U
Regular Brachydios is fun but this guy. It's like I have to tip toe around it every time I want to hit it when it's glowing orange. The orange parts just explode instead of leaving slime behind too so it's not safe to stand near it. I can beat it if I play super carefully with my GL set but each run takes like 30 minutes that way.
>>343987028
>>343987183
>mfw no B.Gravios
mfw I have no face
>>343983906
Is Duramboros supposed to be one of the "fun" 3rd-gen monsters according to general opinion? Barroth I can understand but this faggot just charges around all the time and takes so long to kill. And I have fun fighting Gravios.
>>343987296
I honestly found soloing him to be a better time than hunting with randoms. It's a deathtrap to melee the thing with everybody attacking at once. Even if you're mindful of its mechanic it's so, so easy for somebody to knock it into explosive range as you're mid-swing, and that doesn't even cover those who blindly hack away not knowing. It's just a fool's parade of being blown away by your own attacks and cowering away to heal and repeating the process ad infinitum.
At least when solo I know exactly how much pressure is being put on each part.
>>343986705
Every style has different moves that generate guard points. With adept simply pressing A to do a slash in sword mode will generate a guard point almost instantly.
So adept evades + guard points make it pretty cool if you want to mock the monster by never letting it land a hit
I'm playing mhfu and I'm getting fucked by the seltas
I started out using a Lance, and switched to a great sword, but now I am thinking the Lance was the better option for the fight to begin with.
It is shit to have to follow it around the map more than you are actually fighting it, I hate it
>>343987657
I like Duramboros because of the goofy tail spin.
He just wants to dance but mother nature won't let him.
>>343987296
>soloing Raging Brachydios as a bow main
My favorite form of target practice.
>>343987183
>hating Monoblos
Fucking how?
It's Diablos except fixed, the only shitty thing about Monoblos is when it runs in a half eclipse
>>343987721
The threat of the exploding slime has hurt me more than actually getting caught up in the explosions since I try to reposition to a safer area to hit, but then i just lose my chance to attack or end up rolling right into his next move.
>>343986594
Adept CB has a lot of guard opportunities but it does most of its damage in axe mode now that AED punishing is gone and AED sniping is the new hotness
If you want pure guard/counter action it's all about the lances
>>343987759
My main problem is that I cant put my Lance away fast enough to dodge his dash attack, and the sidestep is about a 50 50 chance of me being able to dodge it
>>343987759
Bring a stunning weapon
>flash bomb
>stun it
>hit it on the ground until it flies again
>flash bomb and repeat
>>343976008
if they take out the arts wyverns breath can find a place to stay, the rocket boosters have to go. A downside is supposed to be a downside, and mobility is a downside for the gunlance. the takoyaki ball has to go as well, buff wyvernsfire if you want to.
also i agree with the idea of element on gunlance, but i think you should be able to completely change the fire and neutral damage to an element before the hunt instead of having it being a type of shot or something.
>>343987296
>>343987721
I always go gunner/bow when fighting it Solo or with a group.
>Oh shit its arm is gonna blow up the next time its hit. I'll just shoot it out of the range of the explosion so that blademasters can start attacking it again.
I made a thing explaining CB changes between 4U and Gen
>>343983863
Good thinking, thanks anon
>>343987759
>mhfu
>seltas
Bring a more mobile weapon and aim for the abdomen
>>343987834
tfw I got a relic spread water bow with power shot. Running and dodging him in circles while pelting him with arrow all day.
>>343985012
HH user here
I don't really agree with you on the Hammer being shit on 4U. The thing is: 4U asks for you to be 100% aware of where you are at every given moment in every area. If you try and play it like the previous MHs, you're just gonna get your shit pushed in because you forgot there's a ledge on your back. It's true that weapons with shields or any type of guarding get off easy, but like for the HH, you just need to know your surroundings and actually use it to your advantage.
Fuck, I've lost count to how many times I managed to escape a fucking charge or spin because of a ledge.
So did they ditch Archdemon mode in MHG? Or is there just something I'm missing here?
>>343988192
You should probably add a note that there is no reason to ever use the yellow shield charge
>>343988461
it's only striker DB that ditches it.
>>343988479
Good point.
Please repost this when some fucktard asks about CB in future threads so it saves time explaining
>>343988192
>hey guys this weapon does way too damage
>LETS GIMP ITS MOVESET
Why didn't they just change the motion values
>>343989184
>hey guys this weapon is shit
>lets nerf its damage
guess the weapon
>>343989372
gunlance
>>343989184
the moveset being so good was the problem
>>343989372
Gunlance.
>>343989184
They did nerf motion values as well. Suppose they wanted more an axe focus because Japan went with Charge Axe for the name.
>>343989184
>SA axe mode
>GL shelling
>CB guard point
JUST FUCK MY PLAYSTYLE UPi feel real bad for people that liked playing those. except maybe pure shelling gl.
there are so many games between the ds/psp, where do you even start?
>>343985012
Is this why MHFU players disliked verticality in MH4U? Those steps there that you have titled "the fuck zone" actually give you extra mobility no matter what weapon you're using. Sheathe your weapon as you walk into the short step, and you will cancel the sheating animation with the short climbing animation, essentially halving the time it takes to sheathe your weapon, so you can panic dive on short notice. Or you can roll into the wall and press 'A' at the end of the roll animation, so you immediately enter a long climbing animation without having to sheathe your weapon, after which point you'll likely evade an incoming attack by finishing your climb up and rolling away from the ledge. Or if you have time and the enemy is correctly positioned, you can jump away from the wall to gamble for a mount.
>>343989730
Now you'll have to deal with full burst spam in X/Gen knocking you away
>>343989730
>Decided long ago that I was going to use SA before watching anything on MHX
>Turns out its a meme weapon
Too late now, I'm stubborn as fuck. I'll X-X my way to the top.
>>343974842
Fuck your commercial success faggot, there's plenty of retarded games that please retards out there.
>>343989520
ding ding
i wanna die
>>343989580
They added styles, they could've made one of the hunting styles to have more focus on axe instead of completely revamping the weapon. I DONT LIKE CHANGES
>>343989929
>have a good time with axe mode SA
>new changes make it so I'm basically gimping myself if I'm ever in axe mode
>>343989730
>mained GL exclusively in 4U (first game) and only started learning SA a few weeks ago
>find out GL is still shit and SA is apparently top in MHG
Mixed feelings.
>>343990240
>People say to never use Axe mode or ED
Fuck em, use axe when you feel like it, ED like crazy if it works. Min max bullshit should never come in front of having fun.
>>343990207
Price paid for everyone and their mum bitching about how OP it was, when in reality the only OP thing was how much KO it shit out.
>>343990207
If styles come back in some form in the mainline games, then the devs should at least make them alternative movesets that focus on an aspect of the weapon like in Frontier instead of focusing on certain gimmicks
>CB styles that emulate 4U's moveset or Generation's (though with extra damage to compensate)
>A SA style that uses the phial to power up the axe
The potential is there and I'd hate to see it go wasted
You can emulate the PSP games and if you like them then you get a 3DS and play the other ones.
It's the best I can recommend if you are not sure about spending on them. Unless you have a 3DS with CFW if so then play any or all of them. The newest one is usually the one with stronger online presence naturally.
>>343975575
If you notice, none of the PlayStation titles are on there either.
MH just does not sell on consoles.
Plus 4U is the best selling monster hunter ever in the West and it's on Nintendo's worst selling portable. Install base is pretty irrelevant, as long as the game is fresh and on a handheld it'll sell.
>>343990240
your best chance might be adept SA, since the adept counterattack on the axe is the hack and slash finisher, which does a hefty 95 mv(i think). demon riot in the art slot, so when your phial is maxed, you can go ham on sword mode.
>>343983357
You fool, you posted a picture of a lance
>>343989912
Monster Hunter is pretty much just a straight improvement between games.
Playing 4U and Generations would let you experience a good 95% of the monsters the series has had.
>>343990839
Because it was never released on a playstation console since the original game. This excuse has run thin as shit over the years.
The two recent MH games to hit a console were nintendo exclusive in an age where Sony absolutely dominated the market.
4U selling more than ever in the West is absolutely relevant in the grand scheme of things, the markets are different. West is consoles, East is handheld.
They'd make money, no if's ands or buts if they put it on PS4.
>>343989184
>IG was even more OP than CB
>they managed to nerf just fine simply by lowering motion values without gutting moves
Dunno, Capcom and the shitters who bitched about CB are retarded.
>started mhfu
>reached Basarios quest
>sword keeps bouncing on this motherfucker
>only way to upgrade to the right weapon is by having components you only find AFTER the Basarios rank quests
>every guide recommends going gun when you face him for the first time
>game forces you to go ranged faggot bitch mode in order to progress
nice game monsterhuntershits
>>343989921
It does not give you extra mobility, all of those animations give you less distance in the same amount of time as rolling away would even with the cancels. Depending on the attack It's impossible to escape if you're knocked into the corner and then have to do the get up animation and then have to climb out.
>>343991327
You can beat the game with any weapon. Attack the chest enough and you'll break the armor open.
>>343991094
>Monster Hunter is pretty much just a straight improvement between games.
Apart from the whole handheld business, I'd agree with you.
>>343970528
>thw distance the roll puts between you and the monster is retarded and the spirit slash is easy to whiff because it's a straight vertical slice
exactly my thoughts, i think i'll stay with guild style because of that. i didn't try striker though
how come pierce is shit on bow, but it's good on bowgun?
So, is Dinovaldo fun?
His theme is pure sex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82o2s0ED4bM
>>343968420
>Sony MH's from years ago still sold better then the current nintendo ones
Fucking hell. Moving this franchise to the Wii and 3DS was a mistake for everyone but Nintendo.
>>343992178
Are you retarded?
>>343992282
are you?
>>343992092
I enjoy fighting him
In terms of fun I'd say dino>raizex=tamamitsune>gamuto
Played a bit of the demo they had at AX. They had Glavenus as the Advanced boss. He was definitely not meant to be easily beaten. The time limit was 15 minutes and strong parties would manage to get him limping when 5 minutes were left.
I didn't get to fight him a whole lot because my three teammates all died at the same time by its OHKO attack.
The guy managing the line all day said he only saw one group kill it
>>343992940
>In line to fight Glavenus
>Chatting with people in line
>I say my favorite weapon is HH
>Everyone loves me
Never really paid attention to weapon demographics, but I guess HH players aren't that common?
>>343992092
Raizex's theme is better imo, and Tama's is god tier, together with Zin's and Brachy's.
>>343993953
HH isn't support/melee. It's melee/support
So anon is a slut that heals, not a healslut
So how's this game looking? I haven't kept up at all. What's new versus MH4U? I just got a paycheck and I see it's only $30 if I preorder on amazon.
So 4u was my first MH and I wanted to get into bows but early on I went SA and didnt bother going back for bows. This time around though, I might just start with bows since Im bored with melee weapons, is this a good idea? Y/N. Will this useful online?
>>343993706
i also hunt horns. all those buffs
>>343993953
im not a healslut or a slut who heals, but i wouldnt mind some thanks in the form of aHOTDICKING
>>343994243
Bows are probably the best way to transition into being a gunner, mobile as fuck and you have to be relatively close to the monster.
>>343993706
Also a HHmain. Its rare to find a good HH. Dual Blades usually suck your dick if you play a "negate stamina loss" song for them.
>>343993953
>>343994036
>using hunting horn with healing songs.
A smart HH would never use those and instead just life powder just like every other weapon.
>>343994243
Yeah, as the other anon said, the Bow is the only true ranged weapon, since guns have no place in a fantasy dinosaur hunting setting.
Also Adept style Bow is really strong in MHX.
>>343993953
How is he a heal slut? He's a buff slut if anything. Heal horns are trash because it's all about those Attack Up songs.
what's the best monster hunterdoujin?
>>343994541
As long as it's a support weapon, it counts as a healslut role.
>>343994705
Hunter Farm
>>343993953
Heal songs are almost worthless.
>>343988142
>a downside is a downside
Yeah, but it's a downside that Lance has as well, except it got moves to mitigate it. It has the jousting charge it can do at any time, so why can't the Gunlance have the rocket booster that it needs to prepare to do?
>>343994705
When He Came to Yukumo Village to Relax While Wearing Crossdressing UnicornArmor He Ended up Getting Raped by Hunters at the Public Hot Springs
>>343968106
you can even play the HD release on ppsspp
>>343994987
classic
>>343995140
>>343995305
>>343995395
Dobson Shark.
>>343994243
SA is crazy good in mhx
dont really know about bows, to me it was LBG being easier to play than HBG when soloing but requiring more gearskill/general knowledge of the game when fighting different monsters or upgrading. hbg the other way around
>>343968318
>Weaponfu
Charge Blade. I love everything about the weapon, and I'm sticking with it even through the nerfs.
>Stylefu
Still playing around but Guild gives me the most comfort until I can adapt to the other stuff.
>Opinions
Hunter Arts are fucking garbage, they should all be utility skills like the dodge, heal, support, meter boosting, etc.
>>343995839
The nerfs aren't even the worst part, the changes to the moveset are.
Check out Adept CB, perfect guard is the closest thing you to the old GPs now.
>>343995839
>Guild CB
At least use Striker
>>343994170
please respond.
>>343996514
its fun
>The thread is still up but there's no room
Here I'll fix that
I'll be the dickweed flipping around with a HBG and aerial
We're hunting the owl man
ID: 52-2482-7750-6581
Pass: 9685
>>343996514
That's been answered a million times already.
>>343996643
who else has only been using Aerials? I'm fucking loving it
>>343997273
Aerial is just a shitty gimmick. Only works for IG, because of the new and improved pole vault it gets.
Also, anyone else is getting connection errors while posting constantly?
>>343997273
Tried aerial and could not get into it at all. I have no clue why.
>>343997695
Then i'm in love with the shitty gimmick senpai
>>343996643
>Somehow managed to hit all bombs and the Charge from the CB
I'm impressed
>>343996643
Bow man here. That sleep bomb was legit.
>>343997273
didnt finish one hunt with it
LBG felt off
GS I missed the bread and butter charge that they take from you
SA felt downright weaker than striker
>>343996643
>>343997804
>>343997857
Good job fellas, CB shitter here. I'm going to need some serious training before I can be good with this weapon again. At least I can still land a burst on a sleeping target!
>>343997804
>>343997857
Had a blast
>>343997943
I mained CB in 4U. Tried it in the demo and wasn't really feeling it at all.
>>343997943
Entry requirement is at least 2 KOs per hunt.
So, are there weapon tiers for mhg yet? I heard GS SnS HBG are used quite often. CB got nerfed, afaik.
>>343998161
There's a pic somewhere with kill times and weapons/styles.
Also pic related.
Should i get Freedom unite on the vita or 4U on N3DS? havent played any monster hunter
>>343998453
4U is the best in the series and also the best place to start.
Or you could wait a bit and get Gen.
>>343998453
Get 4U. FU didn't age well to put it mildly.
And 4U is the most beginner-friendly game, includes a lot of monsters from gen 1 and 2, so you won't miss out on much content from FU.
>>343998453
4U is far, far easier for newcomers to get into with reduced early-game difficulty, far improved hitboxes and general monster behavior, more robust movesets, and lots of small quality of life improvements.
FU will make you into a man.
Depends on the type of experience you're looking for. Do you want to fight a game tooth and nail or do you just want to have fun hunting?
>>343998453
Why not wait until gen? Don't believe the memes it's p gud
>>343998453
you wait until generations
I know the HH is better than ever now but I miss the FU playstyle.
I want to dance while I attack
>>343997273
I tried Aerial bow
Never again
>>343999065
Is Wroggi set in Gen? I need to know.
>>343999065
I was looking at MH Online videos and saw that HH had a different moveset
Why aren't these changes in consoles? Why is MHO so different from the consoles;_;
>>343998161
Everything is decent in Generations. HBG, Bow, Lance, SA are at the top, GL and HH at the bottom.
HBG and Bow fall off when hunting deviants due to ammo issues, but they'll destroy most other quests with ease.
Striker SnS is good no matter the situation.
>>343999167
No
They need to bring it back. Last time they hid it behind guild quests and fuck guild quests
>>343999395
Fuck. Can we still get armors for monsters that aren't in the game like how 4u handled it?
>>343999065
>dance while I attack
then play P3rd onwards horn. Go play fucking garbage gen 2 horn and tell me how far you get trying to use recital mode to attack.
P3rd turned Recital mode into an attack, FU and F2 is corner-horning and horning while the monster is downed exclusively
oh and the moveset?
SUPERPOUND->SUPERPOUND->SUPERPOUND->SUPERPOUND to ad infinitum
let me guess, you also want shitty clownsuit guns to come back right?
>>343999395
And mohsgarl was only low rank.
I don't know what happened in 4U's development that they decided to kill the cool armors
New PS4/Xbone/PC versions of the game fuckign when?
Im tired of handheld MH games that still re-use PS2 assets from the original game TWELVE FUCKING YEARS AGO.
>>343999272
>Main Lance since MHF1
>Picked up Bow in 4U
>Suddenly both top tier
pls god let the bandwagoning shitters be attracted to something else
>>343999463
Nope. Keep an eye on this year's MH game.
>>343959991
To Sonyggers it is. Fox, grapes.
>>343999570
Most players are going to be using Adept LS, Striker SnS, and Aerial GS.
>>343999720
>Lifelong LS player
Fuck
>>343999583
Another one so soon? What gives?
I hope these two ideas make it into the next gen, hunting hound sounds cool as fuck
1/2
>>343999720
>Adept LS
it sucks against quick chargy monsters, i can already see most LS user stayingg with guild/striker style
>>343999065
I love that HH promotes offense with the double notes but it's funny that it honestly gets the least advantage from any of the styles. None of them are very good at all. And their Hunter Arts are mediocre.
>>343973863
Thank fuck, Frontier is subhuman animu edgelord trash.
so what are your favorite weapons from the demo? Mine is aerial insect glaive and prowler. If I don't fuck up too much; I can kill narga in under 15 minutes with prowler
>>343999914
>Hunting Boomerang
a semi-ranged option would be cool I guess
>Sonyfags still angry
All is right
>>343999837
It's been almost a year for the japs since mhx. and 2 years since 4G. so yearly release sounds about right.
And it will be half a year before they even consider bringing it over to the west.
>>343999940
I love aeriel IG but I played IG so goddamn much in 4U I'm not sure I can handle it.
I am digging adept bow so I may do that.
I also haven't checked out Charge Blade at ALL. Nor did I in 4U. I figure since it was neutered a bit and the bandwagon road off it, it might be a good time to try it now.
>>343999934
what anime is this
>>343999395
>and fuck guild quests
Casul.
>>343999934
memes aside I really like the weapon movesets in Frontier, especially Dual Blades where you are constantly attacking to keep chaining the special attack. Frontier DB blow the fuck out of the mainline ones
The only moveset that I absolutely despise is horn. I do not understand why they would rip Bow and GL moveset from mainline but not Horn which has arguably the best moveset out of any weapon in any MH game pathetic motion values aside
>>344000108
>didn't wanna use it was good, because it was popular
>the weapon got raped, it might be a good time to try in now
What kind of twisted logic is that?
How do I git gud at Prowler
>>344000157
having fun fight rajang, teo and deviljho over and over again so you actually get the good stuff faggot?
>>344000248
I feel weird about it because they new moves and shit really push past what should be acceptable in it's current engine. Most all of it would seem more appropriate in 4th gen. When tonfas first came out it could stay airborne forever.
Do we know what Palico armor this is?
>Replaying my older MH games as I wait impatiently for Gen
>Bullfango
I almost forgot. The wound almost healed.
>>344000093
Damn, those japs really eat this stuff up. I'd get burnt out.
Hell, I'd be okay with a mainline game every 3-4 years.
>>344000298
Memes aside I played a lot socially and online in 4U and if I walked into a room of 2-3 other charge blades, I was less enthused to roll it my self. That's just the honest truth.
The times I did use it it just seemed a little overtuned, which also threw me off. Is it bad wanting to play more challenging weapons?
>>344000349
You think you'll be having fun fighting Ember Dino and Silver Los over and over again instead, faggot?
>>344000375
I think it's this one. since we don't have that spin off game.
Is pre-ordering X/Gen worth?
>>344000375
Baby Tigrex.
>>344000093
>>344000460
They were recently quoted in a magazine that they wanted to start doing simultaneous releases for future games, so keep your fingers crossed.
>>344000456
he's in generations too kek
>>344000548
Not bad at all.
>its 2016 and capcom still doenst want to do simultaneous international releases of their games so everyone can play it at the same time
>>344000562
Just pirate it like everyone else
>>344000476
CB was nowhere near as popular as IG and GS in my experience. Nor it was more powerful than those.
For some reason people don't shun GS as they do CB. That's a real meme right here.
>all my buddies want to play generations due to aerial gs
>want them to play 3u
Should I just yield?
Monster Hunter Generations (USA)
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>tfw hate MHXs changes to SA so much I switched back to 4U
I already got my max raw power phial relic, and fuck only using sword mode. I guess I'm stuck till MH5.
>>344000671
MH Explore shows they still haven't learned shit
>game comes out in A FUCKING LEAF exclusively
>gets discontinued a few months after because nobody supported it
>>344000708
Yield, don't fuck up the ability to play with friends.
>>344000575
>>344000671
They will probably decide it depending on the sales of gen.
I don't know sales numbers, how well did 3U and 4U do in the west?
>>344000764
>useless shit without the title key
Cease this memeing at once.
>>344000764
what is this
>>344000794
>with
I will be carrying them on my back, rather. That's the honest truth.
>>344000680
Explain?
>>343999837
Japan gets these games on a regular basis. MHX back in November, probably MHXG this year. Then there's MH Stories.
>>344000460
A lot of them do tend to stick to one game per generation. This would have had a much higher sales target otherwise.
>>343999934
>Using i-frames to dodge through attacks isn't Monster Hunter
Well shit, guess I've been playing it all wrong.Here's a hint. The only damaging part of the attack all up until the explosion when she roars in the circle of fire around her.
>>344000946Your 3DS is hacked right anon?right?
>>343999272
>GL at the bottom again
HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND
>>344000946
What is there to explain? 3DS is the new pirate king.
>>344000820
http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/28/monster-hunter-producers-break-down-how-to-add-new-features-and-preserve-the-series-feel/2/
>Talking about the west, as you say, this is the first time we’ve had two years in a row with a new Monster Hunter game, which is great for our fans. We’ve seen a lot of feedback from players about the amount of time it takes us to bring a new game over from Japan. Localization has to be done. We’ve tried to refine that process and make it more efficient, so that we’ve been able to make that gap shorter and shorter. This is the shortest wait we’ve had so far. It’s still a matter of months, but in the past some titles have taken up to a year. We’re getting closer and closer to the Japanese release time frame.
>In the future, I’d love to be able to reduce that wait even further and get Monster Hunter out simultaneously in the U. S. and Japan. We’ll keep doing our best to bring our games to western players as fast as possible. We appreciate everyone’s patience.
>>344000705
Even remotely decent GS players aren't a perpetual whirlwind of tripping unlike IG and usually CB, so they're fine by me.
>>344000992
>MHXG
Not happening.
>>344000820
any localized game that reaches 200-300K is considered a success. 4U almost hit 1 million overseas
>>344001015
Least the kill times aren't as bad as in 4U.
>>344000705
From my experience, CB was immensely more popular for the first half of the game's lifespan than GS. Naturally part of it was new weapon-itis, but it stuck for a while. GS got a lot more popular later on, when guild quests popularized. Even still they were still easily in the top 5 most common weapons I saw.
>>344001061
CB never was. Until MHX that is. Because it lost the quick access to AED, which is a narrow vertical chop, and has to rely on phial burst II more now.
>>344001010
Is 2ds magic too? Just got one to play stuff coming out this year.
>people falling for the adept LS meme
I can't wait for shitters to use adept LS online, only to never ever land their spirit slash because that shit is the most difficult thing to connect in existance and then get punished by the monster due to the extremely long ending lag
>>344000993
Then the rest of the edgy black and red garbage was 100% unnecessary.
Seriously, have you looked at some of the armour skills in Frontier? It's completely tailored to appeal to 14 year old shounenshitters and it has no place in Monster Hunter.
Even the new "hunting style" feel like animu garbage.
>>343999846
I can tell shitters will love these so bad. More reason for them to stay 281649181 meters away from the monster.
>>344001010
>>344001023
You can go online even after hacking it? I never bothered with it cuz I assumed that once you hack it, you had to stick with offline only.
>>344001194
Yes.
Go into system settings and come back and tell me the firmware
>>344001259
Yes you can still play online. Pirated games work online
>>344001015
>Hey guys, how can we improve gunlance? It's one of the most unpopular choices.
>Let's add an unnecessary meter mechanic and lower it's base damage.
>Brilliant.
>>344001197
I can't get used to the ending lag. Seems like you really gotta pick your shots.
As for landing it, well, how do you not? It's a huge arc. If you're anywhere near your target you'll get them. Not to mention how fast you can pull it off.
Adept LS is great. Just slap on the Crescent art for max gauge and you're set.
>>344001129
>Lance in B-tier
you know it's getting some of the best kill times right?
>>344001317
in their defense at least gunlance actually uses shelling again
>>344001259
Yes.
Not just that, but the newest, sexiest, most convenient way to install games now is downloading them from Nintendo's own servers for free.
>>344001197
it's really not that bad, you just need to immediately react after the dodge and land the right direction
>>344001309
>>344001446
Fug, should I go /vg/ for guides and stuffs?
>>343959991
Tri is the best. It gets rid of all the awful bloat that monster hunter was accumulating, fixed the ranking system, fixed the older shit monster design philosiphies and hitboxes, was pretty much all new content and rebalanced skill distribution. It added water as a much needed casual filter. It had the best online and comunity
>>344001309
where in the settings do I find it?
>>344001446
Is there a retard proof, step by step guide to do this for someone with little to no knowledge on this shit?
And if you fuck up, how bad is it?
>>344001317
>an unnecessary meter mechanic
You're stupid.
GL was suffering from the same issue SA did - the two alternative attack options had zero synergy between them, so the community just sticked with the highest DPS option, be it poking or shelling in the current game, and never used the other one.
The heat meter was badly needed. Unlike the base damage nerf though.
>>344001129
Whats wrong with LBG this gen/X? Is it really that bad? I have been playing both online and my kill times with it look OK. Also tried solo to see if it was just the teammates carrying me, and its still fine.
>>344001528
yes they have everything and are really nice about helping people
>>>/vg/hbg
>>344001542
Bottom right of top screen
>>343987759
Turns out I'm retarded, I had no clue that mhfu and mh4u were different things
I am playing mh4u
>>344001528
>>344001569
Yes, there is.
>>>/vg/hbg
Just READ.
>>344001534
>Tri
>no bloat
the addition of charms and an awful HR system that locks you from advancing to the next rank despite doing your keys say otherwise. Remember bowguns as well? Enjoy making them because now they cost twice the zenny and materials to complete a full-set, especially enjoy the Alatreon one which takes a shit ton of both Skypiercers and Webbings
>>344001634
oh fuck me, was looking in like memory settings
Ver. 11.0.0-33U
>>344001694
Thank you kind anon.
>>344001729
>using bowguns
Found the faggot.
>>344001402
it's a huge vertical arc. That's the main problem I have with adept LS. You whiff easy because monsters will turn unless you are literally right underneath them(which is just asking to get punished).
Maybe I'm just a huge shitter, but I like striker a lot more than adept in my time playing X. Maybe it'll change with gen
>>344001603
Probably just doesn't have good raw weapons to craft. I'm no gunner, but I know that Seregios LBG was the only good non-support option, because of its rapid slice shots that don't suffer from diminished returns.
Sure, there's always element, but it only really works on elemental weak monsters. No amount of element damage stacking is going to make ice LBG good vs Rajong.
>>344001234
>Even the new "hunting style" feel like animu garbage
You're talking about Gen right?
Frontier styles are pretty tame compared to that shit.
As for the armors I've probably seen far more than you have considering I've played the thing up until that Shiten Black Ian at that point.
As for the monster itself, the trick behind attacks like that is to make you panic and dodge off time so you get hit. Being able to piece out the "fluff" and the actual attack is something they play with in a quite few cases.
Now, granted she's an engame monster, as in the very last thing you'd do in the game. So she kinda needs to pomp and circumstance.
Hell, the theme she goes into for phase 2 starts of with a remix of the quest failed theme.
But thank god most monsters aren't that.
Still doesn't change the fact that all that's happening in the webm is attacking the monster and dodging two attacks at the right time.
>>344001590
>any meter mechanic is good
no, you're stupid and stop eating whatever shit gets put in front of you, don't be embarrassing
if you wanted synergy, this was one of the least graceful ways to implement it. It's cumbersome and how wyvern fire interacts with it is really unintuitive, with how it locks your gauge temporarily.
If anything, the playstyle for lance has become more rigid than ever before.
>>343990240
Axe mode has always been the gimped mode for sa
>>344001826
You're screwed anon
the highest firmware that can be hacked is 10.7.0-32
11.0 requires you to have to open the system and have some mad soldering skills
>>344001826
I'm so sorry.
>>344001129
>Generations
>All my favorite weapons in high tier
>Most favorite, being HH, at the very bottom
I'm in an odd state of happiness
>>344001826
>Ver. 11.0.0-33U
I'm sorry for your loss
So are there any special weapons now like Seregios from last game?
Also is there any reason to use his stuff now since no purple gauge?
>>344001979
>All my favorite weapons in high tier
Prepare to be branded a memer.
>>343998161
Ignore tier lists. If it's not Gunlance it's fine.
>>344001868
Ah man. Now that I think about it, I now get fragments of memory of other LBG people saying it'll also be Seregios for them this time again. Ok, thanks.
>>344001937
no worries man, I'll be fine. I have plenty other games to never finish.
Thanks for tryin tho man
>>344002054
Is Handicraft necessary if the game only covers up to HR and no purple sharpness?
>>344002054
No. There's special armor sets from deviant monsters though.
Asstalos
>>344002054
Most of his weapons are shit now. but the switch axe I know for sure is damn good still.
>big white
>2 slots in a game where slotted weapons are rare
>some affinity
>>344001032
Jesus fuck, MH games have the least amount of text in any game ever.
Somebody who knows jap and english could probably be given a list of all the text in the game and translate the whole fucking game casually over a weekend, and hand in the fully translated scripts on monday.
>>344002142
I don't know but you should also know that handicraft was changed to a +10/+15 skill now.
>>343987759
use your counter for his charge attack if you feel you cant side/back step out of the way. Also, you can press (whichever way is backwards for where your hunter is currently facing) at the same time you press back hop to do one big back hop.
>>344002212
Yeah and for comparison, Pokemon started doing simul releases since last gen now. No excuse really but Capcom is Capcom.
>>344002142
Handicraft got fucked. It got split into +1 and +2, the latter being equivalent to the old +1.
Not to worry though, because all the best weapons either are natural white, or actually have green/yellow sharpness and need blunt blade skill, which adds more true raw the lower the sharpness level is.
>>344002054
Only rarity X weapons which give the same effect "speed up hunting art gauge"
Seregios equipment for the most part is good for climbing ranks but sub-par when you get access to outraged which is around Seregios urgent
>>344002212
Not to mention that the games probably reuse a ton of text. Doesn't a blog post on Capcom Unity regarding Generations mention changing the font so that they can keep reusing a lot of 4U's stuff?
>still no setting in the options to have damage numbers pop up when you smack things so you can actually see what things work and what things dont
>>344002325
Well thank goodness. I hate Sharpness+1 since it limits all kinds of sets I want to build.
>>344002492
>Still not being able to tell through hit effects and blood spray
>>344002212
I remember seeing a tweet or a post of a person who works for translation and she said she can translate it IN A DAY. Its just that when the script gets passed maybe gor acceptance or whatever, it takes a fuckton of time passing around from person to person.
>>344002551
You don't have to worry about that anymore, since the only set you'll be using is silver los+viking faulds.
>>344002551
S+1 and even Honed Blade were piss easy to obtain in 4U though
>>344002659
I honestly don't believe it can be translated proper in a day. Pure text form? Maybe? But implementation and all that, I doubt it.
Can they do it quick enough for simul releases? Absolutely they could if they weren't so fucking lazy.
Also consider all the weapon and armor names.
>>344002810
Its just pure text form, probably. The woman IIRC just translates. She doesnt actually put it in.
>>344002212
MH games have surprising amount of text when you factor in all the item and weapon descriptions, quest write ups, and then dialogue.
If you want the game playable you barely need any translated text, but a full go over is vastly more expansive.
That being said, it's still not a 6 month+ process.
>>344002810
>>344002987
The hard part is fitting proper latin alphabet into a game that was made with moon runes in mind. I doubt the japanese devs even think of making it less of a pain for western devs when they make their games.
>>344001089
It is MHXG on 3DS, no other possibilities.
>>344001729
Charms were never bloat in tri. Wanna know why? Because sets in tri were actually good and had good skills. The reason charms are so awful in 4u is because of the skill distribution. Every low/high rank armor is awful shit, while every g rank armor is mediocre but has handicraft + 3 slapped onto random peices. This means, to make a half way decent set, you need charms. And they also did the terrible sin of making handicraft a must have skill which ruined any and all variety
God 4u sucked
>>344003178
It's super easy when your resolution is not 240p. They are just wasting money and effort licensing and adjusting fonts because of 240p.
>>344003297
Comparatively was this improved in X?
Forever grateful for playing MHFU as 14 year old first discovering the series. The newer games have been infinitely easier because of it.
Soloing FU was some shit, I tell you what.
>>344003443
Is that the one where you solo Fatalis and also without a cat? Every MH nerd I've met in real life says FU was the most tough guy installment, and they went through it.
>>344003716
I think FU introduced cat comrades.
>>344003819
Nani?
>>344003201
Capcom JP would let them localize X if XG was coming in 4-5 months
The same thing happened with 4. They didnt localize 4 because development for 4U started immediately after so they localized 4U instead
Its MH5 on NX
>>344001729
None of that is series bloat
>>344003716
FU gives you a cat.
A cat that you usually just set up as a health/armor/demon horn helper, but a cat none the less.
>>344002575
>Not being able to tell by the subtle difference in the growls and roars a monster makes after taking dame.
>>344003904
My cats actually cut a few tails and even KO'd a few monsters.
I don't know how but they did it.
>>344003716
I haven't played FU but I did start with Freedom 1 and boy let me tell you. It was insane. It did not have any sort of AI companion, fauna large and small was out for your blood, and was generally a soul-crushing experience. One of my favorite experiences with video games in the past decade and revived my passion for them in a time I was losing interest in the medium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfhOdM65HA8
>>344003904
Speaking of cats, what's the best build for them in 4U if you're playing solo (outside of not using them at all)? I've been using healing this whole time but the rest should have their uses.
>>344001259
3DS piracy is so good it pretty much fools nintendo's servers.
>>344004016
I ran a support cat purely for the detox horn. It's so good. If you accidentally get poisoned or some other debuff, no need to sheathe the weapon and browse through items looking for the right remedy, you might have forgotten to bring on the quest in the first place.
>>344004002
>Hey anon, you should play this game called Monster Hunter
>Ok
>Right stick attacking
>No indication about skill points
>No in box combining
>Forced egg quests
>Forced egg quests in the Forest and Hills
>Forced egg quests in the Forest and Hills where they block off the easy route and make you go down the cliff while Rathalos is constantly firing fireballs at you
However killing Rathalos with the Defender GS in nothing but Velociprey armor is still a good memory.
>>344003887
2 million sales before March 2017 means it's impossible to be on NX. MHX had a 2.5 million target and that's on 3DS.
>>344004158
stick attacks did nothing wrong
>>344004016
I liked the support cat that laid shock traps. Half the time he was a total idiot that set them against a wall but the other half of the time, free shock trap.
>>344004158
>Forced egg quests
Fuuuuuuck that
>>344004321
oh you're going to lov X
>>343966504
Why does she look like she has down syndrom
Also, holy shit. That background is literally just a fucking real life picture. Are hentais nowadays that lazy?
>>344004379
W-whys that anon?
>>344004016
I've used a full set of stamina cats, just for the free stamina buffs. It also exhausts monsters but i'm not sure how helpful that is in 4U.
>>344004307
>hey you can have a cat and you can spend skillpoints and a slot to have it lay down a trap completely randomly
>3rd gen comes they give you overpowered shakalakas that can lay a single trap per hunt on command and still have tons of support songs
>they go back to cats and still keep the shitty random shock trap
Why do they voluntarily refuse to improve cats?
Instead 4th gen got that HORRIBLE system that didn't even serve much purpose other than complicating cats when P3rd had it easier.
>>344004307
>hunting with another anon
>two players so we get to bring a cat each
>it's some cap quest
>the monster starts limping
>it walks right into a trap
>we throw tranqs at it
>nothing happens
And that's how I learned the cat traps don't actually count as proper traps for cap purposes. I thought the other anon placed the trap at first, since I did not. He probably thought the same.
>>343999583
but why are they releasing Major Title 2 so soon after Major Title 1?
What is that one weapon that you can just never ever use?
I've been following the MH series since FU and for whatever reason I just never got bows, bowguns are amazing but the bow has always been no damage the weapon, featuring low coating amounts.
Always takes me a million years to kill anything with it.
>>344001129
Who made this tier list? I wouldn't vote for you.
>>344004505
Because it fucking sucked and is already dead as fuck
>>344004596
GL. Capcom might as well just remove it from the game.
>>344004505
Major Title 1 is RE7, January 2017
Major Title 2 is DR4, Holiday 2016
MH Title will be Holiday 2016, usually November or December if revealed at TGS. Could be earlier if they reveal it earlier.
>>344004596
Can't deal with Hammers. My blows always land half an inch away from the monster. Drives me mad.
I blame it on learning the game with Lance.
>>344004596
I can't into LBG and GL, but every other weapon i'm fine with.
>>344004596
It definitely either has to be Bows or GL for me, which is funny because I use normal lance just fine but when I use a gunlance I feel like a retard.
I would almost say Bowguns but I recently started doing great with LBGs and must have been doing something wrong with HBGs to make them feel so weak because I was wrecking shit with my LBG.
>>344004432
forced gathering and eggs quests, more than ever
>>344004487
It's the Pokemon system; two steps forward, one step back.
They gotta constantly remove good ideas every game to keep the series from evolving too fast and to lock in incentive for you to buy every single game.
>>344004596
Charge Blade in 4U
Dual Blades as well. I want to give them a real try this time around.
>>344004665
>>344004724
>>344004789
>3 people who can't into GL
>I also can't into GL
Is it just a shit weapon?
>>344004596
Bows and lances. Funny enough, when I was first getting imto MH, I took a look at the catalog and decided bows and lances would be the best for me. Turns out its actually sns, hh, lbg and je suis.
For lance, I get really nervous that I can't just bolt out real fast when shit gets bad. For bows, I can't aim for shit.
>>344004954
Yes.
I bought the MH New 3DS XL, and 32GB Micro SD, a size #0 screwdriver (because Nintendo is fucking retarded and made you have to unscrew the back to change out the non-existent storage they give you), and the MH-Gen just a few days ago. No regrets.
>>344004596
>Today I will toot my song with the HH
>Oh god what notes are on what moves
>Oh god what's happening
>Oh fuck the buff dropped
>Fuck
>Geeze
>Oh man
>bullfangos gave me legit PTSD
Why is Hammer not so great in MHX?
It felt pretty decent in the demo.
>>344005016
This is amusing to me because my mains are Lance and Bow and I can''t wrap my head around HH or Je Suis Monte. I never feel safer than when I'm Lancing.
>>344004954
It just feels too close to the lance but requires some kind of foreign playstyle to use correctly at the same time. People just say to use shelling to keep a combo going but you can literally do the exact same thing with Lance dodging but you get 2 more dodges and don't have to worry about the piss poor static damage of the shelling.
>>344004954
Being a shit weapon doesn't help.
It's really slow, has both worse mobility and defensive capabilities than lance, and has lots of long drawn out attacks and mechanics to work with. And the heat gauge just makes it even more complicated.
It's a difficult to use weapon that even if you master will still give you the worst DPS in the game.
>>344005086
>Oh god what notes are on what moves
That's easy. The notes are always on the same moves.
Memorizing the songs and actually hitting the heads with the weird attack angle is the hard part.
>>344005136
It's just memers who think they know how the weapon works. Ignore tier lists, play with the weapon you find fun and you'll eventually get better at it.
>>344005201
Oh no I'm just terrible and always forget what moves do what note.
I'm functionally retarded when I pick up HH.
I think after nearly 5 years of trying I always remember purple though.
>>344004923
Pokemon is always the same shit though, MH actually changes.
>people think monster hunter x is good
oh boy you're in for a treat
>>344005201
>Try to pick up HH
>Opening the menu every single fucking hunt because I can't remember how to play a specific song
wew
Respect to anyone who can play that with any sense of competency, especially progressing through the ranks and constantly upgrading your weapon. I felt like a small handicapped child just trying to learn the two horns I made.
>>344005479
I don't
>>344005479
>Maybe if I meme hard enough it will come true
>>344005543
ITT: everyone thinking it's not shit
>>344005338
Obviously you haven't played Pokemon.
Almost every gen introduces a well received new feature, mechanic, or quality of life change. And then it promptly disappears the next game never to return.
>>344005107
Bullfangos are smalltime!
These faggots are worse than Hitler.
>>344005136
4U it got a bad rap because it's forte got taken away by Charge Blade in the form of KO'ing, while doing more damage than hammer too.
Charge Blade was nerfed in X, and Hammer's hunting arts gave it immense reliable KO power.
>>344005665
Typical deluded Pokemon fan.
I bet you whine about the cartoon monsters of today being worse of the cartoon monsters of when you were younger when the designs are still the same quality.
Who else is going Guild Style GS in MHX and not gonna give a fuck? The new styles are all gimmicky bullshit and not much fun.
>>344005619
Judging from the demo Generations will be similar enough to 4U and 3U that I don't think it's really possible for it to be shit unless the argument is MH as a whole is shit.
>>344005726
How am I meant to land some of the Hammer hunter arts?
I was kind of hoping that they would have super armor of some form, but it seems like it's only possible to land them when the monster is already KO'd.
How much better performance does the N3DS have over the standard 3DS? EBgames is selling the monhun generations N3DS for $250 and i'm tempted to get it.
>>344005767
Not sure what you're on about. It's an objective fact that nice little changes throughout the series like following Pokemon and game difficulty choices were introduced and then taken away in earlier titles.
For the record I've been playing since gen1 and I tend to like later generation designs better. 6 is underrated.
>>344005819
That demo might as well be false advertising. Except for the part where you fight nothing but Nargas, that's actually accurate.
>>344005782
What is the deal with styles anyways? Like is there drawbacks to using certain ones? Because as far as I can tell it sounds like certain shit like bowguns will be insanely strong when using anything but the guild one.
>>344005890
>le objective fact
Good meme.
>>344001603
I think maybe it's because Aerial HBG is stupidly OP and it works better than AeriL LBG
>>344005980
Following Pokemon and difficulty settings were introduced and then taken away withing their own respective games. I'm not sure how you can argue with this.
I'm not really sure what kind of argument you're trying to start either, I'm genuinely lost here.
>>344005918
It's a poorly implemented idea where each weapon has a superior style and then a bunch of mediocre to bad ones. They also pidgeonhole you into being a one-trick-pony whereas Guild Style is more versatile and has the most amount of gameplay depth.
>>344004596
>What is that one weapon that you can just never ever use?
Gunlance is really off. A technical weapon with little reward.
>>344006136
I enjoyed it in 3U. I ran endgame with normal type using charged shots nonstop. I loved fucking up lucent Narga this way.
For multiple reasons it's just sucked dick since then.
>>344006118
Is that really the case? I thought it just basically gave you a benefit with a light drawback like bowguns having a free evasion +3 and reloads during rolls but can't reload otherwise or something I heard.
Everyone keeps saying how SA got the biggest buffs in MHGen. Anyone care to give me the bullet points?
>>344006435
Some weapons have styles better balanced than some. To be expected knowing Capcom to be honest.
>>344006494
>sword mode only
>made every phial not Power go from being undesirable to completely worthless
>combos are mapped to one button
That about covers it.
Is Aerial really any good on any weapons besides IG?
>>344006316
Apart from the Cornpopper supposedly raping FU Fatalis, I've heard 3U is the only game where GL is much good. But still, whereas Lance can hop around and use counters GL is kinda pigeonholed to turtling.
>>344006494
See >>343998304
>>344006494
-Demon Trance is OP
-The other Hunter Arts recharges your phial for free, meaning you can keep up Demon Trance forever and doesn't take much to charge the hunter art.
-Motion Values have been buffed
>>344006080
Pokemon never changed in any important way, it's same game it was decades ago with just some extra bling.
Unlike Monster Hunter, that was true for it until FU, now it's a wholly different game.
>>344006435
it depends on the weapon as they have some variance, but that's generally how I feel about it. I don't think that all weapons benefit equally from the free evasion +3. I'm not impressed by the new changes that the Lance got, at all. There's only one Hunter Art that I like, but then, I don't like the concept of Hunter Arts in the first place. Just one more annoyance to keep track of during the hunt.
>>344006586
>>344006642
>>344006647
Sweet Jesus. Someone is really in love with the SA.
>>344006856
Someone is really in love with S.
They could care less about the Axe.
>>344006754
>Pokemon never changed in any important way, it's same game it was decades ago with just some extra bling.
Yeah I never argued that the core formula has changed. I was strictly speaking about fringe changes they introduce and take away each gen.
Don't be so goddamn antagonistic anon, christ.
Saying Pokemon hasn't "changed" though is a silly statement.
I could say the same thing about Monster Hunter. You could say the Z axis mechanics and AI improvements have made it a different game, but I could say the same about stat splits, natures, abilities and items in Pokemon.
>>344006856
>in love with it
>made 2/3 of the SAs useless to craft
>made half of it's moveset worthless
Fuck em, I'm sticking with 4U.
>>344006754
>Unlike Monster Hunter, that was true for it until FU, now it's a wholly different game.
Monster Hunter has always been the same shit, don't be deluded.
>>344006909
>>344006967
Well, yeah, that's what I meant. Seems like they wanted to make the Greatsword with Hack n Slash gameplay.
>>344006435
MHX frankly is a pretty rushed game to fill the MH void for the year and reuses tons of content and suffers from the new ideas being poorly balanced.
For styles the issue is that what weapons gain and lose varies wildly across the board as well as the hunting arts being very hit or miss.
For styles, say adept, on LS it's absolutely amazing and let's you counter straight with a vertical 3 hit spirit slash while something like GS just gets a dumb backslash for it.
And when looking at HAs some weapons like SnS have great options where every HA is powerful and useful while HH has no good HAs at all and is better off just trying to use the lame generic ones.
>>344006947
>I could say the same thing about Monster Hunter
Nope, that would be wrong.
The core of the game has changed.
>>344007024
Great meme.
>>344007135
>The core of the game has changed.
nah
weapons got more moves, monster AI got better, quality of life has improved across the board. Standard stuff you should just expect at this point.
by all means back up that statement though
>>344007169
nice defense!
>>344007085
Fair enough, but it does sound like it adds a bit of flavor to the mix, just hope your weapon has a good dice roll from the sounds of it though.
Do any attacks from hunter arts proc CritDraw?
Great. Now GLers and HHers will even be more of a shiny pokemon this time. Thanks, capcom.
>>344007403
To be fair it's not like HH got worse like GL, it just didn't really gain much from styles or arts.
>>344007135
hey just fyi if you're spending your time on a reply to >>344007187 don't bother because I'm tired and going to bed. Cheers though!
MH4U is the best in the series and if you don't agree you can suck my dick (if you're a girl)
>>344007618
OK anon, have a nice nap.