Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma
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You either die a shitposter or you live long enough to become a Uchi defender
Memes and shit aside, what does /v/ really think about Zero Time Dilemma?
Vote http://www.strawpoll.me/10670353
'scool
It was a great game, but flawed nonetheless
If Uchi lets ZE rest in peace and makes a new IP I'd be very happy
>I was only 67 years old
>But in my 22 year old body
>I loved Zero so much, I owned all the watches and bracelets
>I play Decision Games every night, thanking him for the life I'm about to lose
>"His motives are complex", I say, "Life is unfair"
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>He is obviously jealous of my devotion to Zero
>I called him a cunt
>He slaps me and sends me to another timeline
>I am crying now, because my face hurts in the previous timeline
>I get injected and forget the previous 90 minutes
>I feel a warmth moving towards me
>I fell something touch me
>It's Zero (Q (Delta))
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear, "Why? Because of a snail."
>He mind hacks me puts me on my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I solve puzzles for Zero
>He transports me with an alien device
>It makes no sense, but I do it for Zero
>I can feel my other selves dying as he kills my dog
>I try to prevent the deaths of six billion people
>I want to please Zero
>He laughs a mighty laugh as he tosses me a gun
>My dad walks in
>Zero looks him deep in the eyes and says, "Plaudite, acta est fabula. "
>Zero leaves as the walls reveal it was all one ward
Zero is love, Zero is life.
>>343886559
Anon... I...He never intended to resolve them
Which ZE has the most slutty face? And which would you do /d/ tier things to?
So who wins in a fight between Chainsaw Akane and Axe Clover?
MIND HACK, muthafucka.
I feel kinda cucked for playing the game with Japanese voices. It seemed like it would've been more fun with the English voices.
Doesn't help that Sawashiro is yet voicing another person in this game. So fucking sick of her. I don't mind based Sugita though.
>>343886837
chainsaw beats axe
>>343886837
axe carlos won against akane
Action TPS spin-off featuring these two, when?
>>343886559
You really thought we would get All-Ice explanation after all this time? It was just a fucking red herring, get over it.
The shit with Kyle shouldn't be dropped, though.
>>343886934
Carlos is an All-American hero, he wins by default.
>>343886909
The english VA were hit and miss, but hits were amazing. Junpei and Skullface knocked it out of the park. It's clear they were just hamming it up.
>I know, I'll cum inside just so I could watch my newborn children slowly die from starvation.
>But it's all worth it because their clones will travel in time and space and become bond villains or something, I don't know.
>Hey, Diana, I'm kinda tired of all the screaming, let's affectionally strangle our children so they don't have to suffer anymore, you ok with that?
>>343886859
Well, they don't say what happens to Ace after R6 hits, but they do mention he's still in prison.
>>343886859
>shit, I hadn't even thought of that
>JUST WAIT FOR THE 3RD GAME, GUYS
>>343887068
>Implying huge slut Diana didnt beg for the creampie because she loves the pleasure of being cummed inside.
>>343886837
Clover uses deception to kill with axe, whereas Akane swings this motherfucker like a stick. Guess she was doing push-ups instead of sudokus as a child.
Akane wins all the way.
Also, regarding sudokus - WHY THE FUCK WAS THERE NO SUDOKU JOKE IN THIS GAME? Like C-Team having to solves sudoku and Akane being like 'y-yeah Carlos, you solve it while I'm in the other corner having a panic attack'.
Or Jumpei interrpupting her explanation about parasites and saying if she would only solves some sudokus as a child instead of reading all that crap, that would really save everyone a lot of trouble.
>>343887235
So many missed opportunities.
>>343887094
I understood that reference.
>>343886909
I'm just glad to hear my girl Chiaki. world needs more of her.
>Who do you guys Zero could be?
>Maybe it's that extremely specific serial killer in the news that just happens to be in the nevada desert and has a nuclear shelter
Even Danganronpa did this better, holy fuck.
>>343886837
This reminds me, how the fuck are they going to handle the last scene when they port 999 to PC? Do you have to flip your fucking monitor upside down?
I don't care how "foreshadowed" it was, the main villain being a dude that was sitting off-screen the whole time was pathetic and amateurish.
>>343887381
Delta wasn't the serial killer though?
>>343887381
But Zero wasn't that serial killer bro
>>343887482
It felt like the game pulled a MGS on me, but only more retarded.
>>343887482
>everyone expects me to make cool twists
>I will try to make a cool unexpected twist
>>343887413
Akane starts Steam messaging Junpei in the corner of the screen and then you have to use the Broadcasting functionality of Steam and invite her to watch to help her.
>>343887484
>>343887505
That's the conversation between Mira, Eric and Sean. Theu foreshadow the serial killer thing in the least subtle possible way by saying that maybe that serial killer they saw in the news was Zero.
I just happened to guess at Q's fragment the correct answer, and then the camera shifted to do the reveal.
It actually hurt me physically.
>>343886859
>first thing
We now Snake worked with Clover and Alice in that psychic agency and about those 45 years, it really doesn't matter. It's an erased timeline. We also didn't get info about what happend to Quark or if Dio will come to existence. Deal with it. Same with Ace, we know what he is doing, but it's not important what he does in erased future timeline
And given that Delta is 125 year old he could have easily started Free the Soul in 1930s or even earlier. Age doesn't even matter to him, since he uses minds of others around him, not his own. He could have as wellstarted FtS at age 2 or 3, I shit you not.
>>343886380
>Dio
>Beloved
Maybe if you're a complete retard.
>>343887710
But Mira is the killer.
>>343887773
Dio is loved for how utterly hateable he is. You go in thinking, "this guy seems like a dick, but I bet there's something more complicated than that to him" but nope, he's just a fucking dick, and that's what makes him good.
>>343887773
FUZAKERUNA
>>343887068
>I know, I'll cum inside just so I could watch my newborn children slowly die from starvation.
Being cummed inside is an act of pure, innocent love. Diana pretty much regained her virginity after Sigma impregnated her.
>>343887215
>implying Diana is a slut
Diana is pure! PURE! Her ex-husband was forcing her to have sex, when all she ever wanted was to hold hands. She allows Sigma to fuck her because she understands his needs and wants to keep him happy.
lmao I was there the whole time you didn't see me XD
>>343887832
It stops being good about 10 minutes in and turns into "this guy is so much of a dick I can't believe no one has punched his shit in yet".
>>343887684
That would be amazing.
>>343887773
He's just such an absolute, unrepentant scumbag. I can't help but like him.
>>343887659
Oh fuck.
>>343887745
I physically recoiled the first time the words"mind hack"were spoken
>>343887773
Love to hate
>>343887773
Dio was great. So entertaining. Of course he was an asshole, but an asshole we loved to hate.
For comparission, Eric, on the other hand, was just a retarded asshole and he can fuck off.
I can't be the only one super dissapointed in how Dr. Klim got al busted up, right?
Like I was totally expecting D team to have to constantly choose between doing something terrible or lopping off another bit of Sigma Lisa-style or something, but no it's just a single boom and all his bits are gone. Super lame, should've had more decisions in the game than just "do this and x dies or this and y dies"
>>343888054
ehh something similiar was done already
The moment Alien tech appeared, I was cautious.
The moment the words MIND HACK were uttered, I was already laughing my ass off. This game felt like a parody of the I/O, Infinity, plotwist and metaphysics filled VNs.
I really think this was a piss take. There's no way to see it otherwise. There's even a moment where they point at the screen and go "ZERO WAS.... YOU!".
>>343888250
>Pony Island
Hmm, would've tried it if the sales was't over.
>>343886859
Most of these could've been solved with short notes in the archives. No idea why they left these VLR loose ends unresolved. Now they're going to spill over the ZTD Q&A
>>343888162
Can someone post the local man won't shut up about snails one
I'm seriously getting tired of this 'Diana is a slut' meme
Is it because she wanted to sleep with Sigma?
Have a family photo.
>>343888452
she probably does the "getting drunk and asking sex from strangers routine" in weekly basics.
>>343886909
Junpei's seiyuu was a surpise for me, really liked him, also
>Sugita
>Daisuke Ono
>Delta being Gendo / Kaiji's narrator
fucking great
>>343888452
Because you're a """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""cuckold""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" if you ever want a woman that lost her virginity. Duh.
>>343886965
If we can get AYY LMAO ALIENS and
MIND HACKS MUTHAFUCKA we can also get explanations for All-Ice/Lord Godain and Left/the Myrmidons/Free the Soul, no matter how silly they might be.
(1/3)
Just finished this game and God almighty am I disappointed. Not only that but it left a sour taste in my mouth for the whole series, like a Taiwanese hooker who was ordered to peg her customer with her tongue
Literally the only team I enjoyed was C team and even though I though Carlos would be an annoying Chad Thundercock, he's actually probably my favorite out of the bunch. Q team is literally pointless. Mira is just a random psycho, Eric is her beta Shaggy from Scooby Doo looking motherfucker and Q is just the child quota. Like they couldn't reveal at the end that Q stood for Quark and that he's somehow him BECAUSE FUCK CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT FOR NON EXISTING CHARACTERS, YOU LIKE HIM AND YOU LIKE CLOVE BECAUSE I SAID SO. WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST REPLACE Q TEAM WITH CLOVER ALICE AND QUARK INSTEAD OF CREATING DUMB CHARACTERS NOBODY LIKES, DEVELOP YOUR OLD SHITTY ONES SO THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE FILLER. Damn, seriously fuck that team.
And then D team, oh D team. Even though Sigma and Phi were my favorite part of VLR, now they're just "there". They bring nothing to the plot, Sigma is just muscles and Phi is a massive cunt that dies. And not!Luna is just Luna but acts irrationally and acts like a bitch from time to time
I feel like the art style really hurt this game. They took it from standard visual novel stuff to "wooshy washy, ugly 3D models that blab about for 20 minutes" and it hurt the narrative. Maybe if it wasn't PSP crap it wouldn't be so bad, but it was way better to have portraits, the MC explaining what's going on trough monologue and the occasional scene they decide to draw
>>343888662
(2/3)
Another thing that bothered me was the music. Sure it's a budget game, I liked the music from the old games, but this time around it feels wildy inappropriate. The music doesn't set the tone as much now as it's something that plays in the background because of how boring the dialogue is. Maybe it fit in a scene or two, but it didn't make me feel anxious. Even the *beep* *beep* *beep* while spooky music is playing in the background from VLR made me feel more emotion than what anything this game has to offer
The game isn't even bad for the most part, but shit hits the fan in Dianna's ending
Oh God, why did they have to include the part where Dianna and Sigma fuck and have a cringeworthy birth scene. I don't see how they even fell in love besides Dianna lusting for his mega cock.
So that happens and then it just keeps going and going and going
and then it happens
at one point (I don't remember at this point since I just want to forget this game even happened already) some fucking grandpa stands up from his wheelchair and everyone starts paying attention to him as if he literally didn't exist before, despite him supposedly being around them constantly which is the dumbest fucking plot device ever, Sigma not realizing he was 70 was more believable than this. And he's also Zero and he can read minds and he's straight out of fucking Naruto with his purple and black eyes.
>>343888662
(2/3)
I also learned of something called blogspot, and I will finish my blog entry there. Cheerio, everyone!
The short ambidex game part in ZTD made me realize how much I miss it. I didn't feel any sort of suspense at all playing ZTD. Waiting for the results in VLR made it really fun.
>>343888730
(3/3)
and then they bumble the fuck around for another hour until they decide "yeah, this whole game actually ended in the first 5 minutes ad this pointless clusterfuck of a story didn't even happen"
oh and normal people can jump trough time too, it's just stuff in your brain that does stuff and if you're around people with anime powers you get those anime powers too
and that scene where they reunite with Phi again, it sends shivers down my spine just thinking about it, why did he have to bring creepy incest into this, what is the point, way to ruin your best characters...
and Radical-6 is just such a small thing, they don't even pay it any attention
How did it spread trough the world? Well Mira was a cunt and injected them with it.
AND HOW DOES THIS INTENSE TRILOGY END?
"WITH THE POWER OF MY NAKAMA, WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD!"
shitty japanese hack
doujins about goats being fucked have better stories than this
please never make a game again
>>343888662
>>343888730
>>343888793
didn't read lol
>>343888638
>wanting used goods
>>343888573
>Junpei's voice actor also voiced Noctis.
Well fuck, that explains the familiarity.
>>343888662
>>343888730
>>343888793
Don't worry the Q&A will fix everything
>>343887413
The port (Is it even a port now that it adds voice acting?) is going to only be one screen, so the entire top screen bottom screen gimmick isn't even going to be there in the first place.
>GET TO PART WHERE I HAVE TO TELL ERIC ZERO'S NAME
>GUESS THAT IT'SDELTABASED ON THE SHIT ZERO TOLD JUNPEI AND AKANE
>IT ACTUALLY WORKED
>SOME OLD NIGGA IN A WHEELCHAIR RANDOMLY APPEARS LIKE HE WAS THERE THE WHOLE TIME
>IM CONFUSED AS FUCK AND STILL HAVE THE BIG ASS TIMELINE TO THE LEFT OF FLOWCHART TO COMPLETE
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? AM I EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE AT THIS POINT SINCE I GUESSED?
>>343888378
Probably be blown off just like they were in the VLR Q&A.
>>343888542
this, lots of one night stands were probably likely.
That, and getting beaten immediately makes her horny. That's honestly not very attractive when coming from a battered person.
>>343888452
>ugh daaaaad, can you put me down now
>mom, my white hair isn't part of my rebel phase and I definitely won't grow out of it
>people keep mistaken my mom and dad for my siblingss when we go out! lameville!
>my dad is tall and my mother is busty! what kind of epigenetics made me short and flat?! Life is truly unfair
>I miss my Brother
>ugh, I keep hearing my mom begging dad for sex every night! what is wrong with this woman? it's soooo disgustin!
>if we take anymore time with this photo, I'm gonna be late for my kickboxing practice
>>343889009
the left timeline is the final timeline.
Congrats you arent a retard
>>343887659
>The aliens were the good guy all along
I hope people read my wall of text
>>343888876
>that's what virgins actually believe
>>343889009
I don't think anyone deduced thatan old guy on a wheelchair was there the whole time. Yes there were hints but I can't recall anyone saying they pieced it together before entering the name.
>>343889218
least my waifu isn't a slut
>>343889056
>we didn't even get a payoff with Sigma and Diana making phi grow her hair red again
>>343888662
>>343888730
>>343888793
an enticing read, actually. the line about 'some fucking grandpa standing up' was amazing.
I don't agree with everything you said, but you are in the right with some things. Still, I liked this game and definitely liked the Standed Pair segment.
Waifus in ZTD are not very good:
Diana is boring as fuck.
Phi is almost non-existant.
Mira and Akane are alright, but completely overshadowed in their routes by Eric and Carlos.
>>343889297
I felt some things were off, mostly
>no Q portrait in Dead/Alive menu
>'Q' not being dead on the X-Com board after getting stabbed by Mira in one ending
>Eric shooting 3 times to kill just 2 people, I thought he also killed Gab but then Gab was alive and well besides him
but that was all. I didn't suspect 10th person to be there with them
>>343889482
Good. Thansk to that, I can make my own fanfiction with them.
>>343888793
Don't bother the shitposting faggots who can't be bothered to read a post that is not memes, this was a good read and you're completely right
>>343887413
>Top screen stuff will be voiced
>bottom won't be
>Towards the end
>"he knows..." appears as text
>Suddenly voice acted 'because I know'
That's the best way I can imagine
I'm actually starting to embrace the 'Diana is a slut' meme.
The thought of her being all prime, sweet and proper during SHIFTer meetings, but going full nympho mode when Sigma and her get home, jumping his bones and riding his monster cock for 10 hours straight seems really great.
>>343889009
You apparently didn't notice the hints that there's a 4th person in that team.
I got it prematurely too by guessing (since the stranded pair ending was the 3rd one i got) and really thought it broke the 4th wall and that you (the player) is zero.
I was playing the game for 25 hours straight at that point and really fucked me up.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10670353/
It's official. /v/ likes ZTDeven if we don't think it's perfect
I apologize for ZTD Zero
We deliberately trained him wrong, as a joke
>>343888793
>doujins about goats being fucked have better stories than this
i fuckin lol'd
>>343890020
you should let people choose which games they think are better/worse than ZTD
for me it's VLR>ZTD>999, but I had to pick the first option, 'on par with other games'
>>343888006
I liked that he was so fucked up that individuality seemed weird to him. I wanted to see more of that dio.
>>343890075
He was better than Akane and Sigma. His motives were much complex.
>>343890075
why did u become a retard in ZTD
why were u out keikakued by skullface
>>343890151
Yeah. I didn't want too many options
>>343890075
akane go suck Junpei's dick
>>343890020
It was on par with the others. It had more characters and storylines that i liked than 999 desu.
VLR > ZTD > 999
The only disappointment for me was no mindfuck endgame puzzle rooms.
>No, señor Carlos. I expect you to SHIFT.
>>343890075
Made this in 30 seconds
how does that mexican standoff scene make ANY SENSE with the existence of delta
goddamn i mean i could see sean being relunctant to shoot a deaf blind old man but mira and eric should have defaulted to him
WHERE THE FUCK WAS LEFT
>>343890448
That fucking freak with the helmet ran off to get his crossbow
>>343890448
Sean pointed at Mira first (??), so Eric's gun went to Sean obviously
>>343890205
I agree, ZTD Zero was such a complex character, its only natural that the simple minded cannot accept him.
If only Akane or Sigma could have even half the complexity of ZTD Zero, maybe they'd be better games.
>>343890478Prepare for anons who will tell you that you shouldn't expect answers from a four year old Q&A.
wow this game was so complex
>>343890448
Sean was protecting Q from Carlos.
Thats how I saw it.
>>343890478
lel let's make a full look like dio character, those faggets will think he's the bad one
>>343890478
blame VLR for introducing stuff not ZTD for not explaining it
>>343890712
If only Sigma and his AK didnt ruin the mexican standoff
DON'T WORRY GUYS LET'S SHIFT TO THE TIMELINE WHERE WE FAIL THE DICE ROLL, I'VE GOT A PLAN
>>343890810
He's got a point. A game should be satisfactory in its own regard. If you don't like ZTD because of the previous game, then it is at least partially to blame.
>>343890887
How about we shift to the timeline where youpass me that Axelavir bro
>>343890887
akane started
I'm only sad she didn't have as much dialogue lines as in VLR.
Still, she's the best girl 2 games in a row.
Its real
>>343890919
I was shitposting to be honest, it's totally fair to blame the conclusion of a trilogy for not covering things introduced in the middle entry
>>343891314
Looks like a giant tenga egg
>>343890020
Noooo, that can't be. Those votes must be some shitposter apologist proxying and spamming the votes over and over. This game is shit! I can't believe people enjoy it!!
>>343891342
Yeah. But it is a semi-valid argument. Its fair to blame ZTD, but it's also partly the fault of VLR for leaving it open and making it seem like it'll be brought up. Especially in the case of the Kyle epilouge
>>343891314
this thing would make a great sex toy
Why is Akane such an unlikable character? Seriously, she's manipulative and uses coldly in 999, while still maintaining that she's in the right. Then she becomes some kind of hero in VLR, even though she's exactly the same as before; a manipulative witch. The ending in ZTD whereshe stabs Junpei with the memory erasing drugs just so she can use him in the futureis only proof of that. Yet in ZTD she's this big fucking contrarian whiny bitch, always complaining to Junpei that you can't just kill people, and that it's wrong even though she's done it in the past herself, those guys didn't fucking eat bombs by themselves after all. I meaneven when they know they're SHIFTers and Junpei sacrifices himself and Carlos for her so she can get the last X-Pass, I mean, fucking really. She gets so pissy about that, and I mean sure, I can understand it being traumatizing to see a loved one die in front of you-- except you know it's not your loved one and he isn't actually going to die, and again, the whole thing of killing people and seeing blood and guts before so... why the fuck am I typing this? I hate this bitch so much, because I know there really are people in this world as selfish yet righteous as she. What a well written, bitch.
>>343891523
You got me. I can't allow people to not like the things I don't like so I rigged it to make me feel better about my insecurities
the ztd hype is dead
>mfw reading the archives and just found out that 999 and VLR actually bombed in Japan
Fuck, guys.
>>343892442
It's shit game, after all. What did you expect?
>>343892568
Fucking shit taste nips
>>343892442
Yeah, these threads are slowly but surely dying.
>>343890020
I'm surprised the Zero Kyle Dilemma isn't getting more jokes for the meme factor.
>>343892568
jap players only like teen protagonist with cazy hair and little gore
So what are the hints the game gives you that there's a 4th member of team Q?
>>343893235
There's like a shadow here and there, but he's invidible to cameras.
Oh, and he's referenced once in the game.
>>343893235
It's a Decision Game instead of a nonary game.
>>343892568
>Make 999
>West likes it but it sells poorly in Japan
>Pander further to the Japanese audience with VLR by toning down the violence have their favorite character return
>Modernize it with 3D graphics instead of sprites
>Game bombs even harder in Japan
Just completed the game in less than a day and... That's it? That's everything? Didn't feel like a proper conclusion at all. Is there some kind of secret ending I haven't gotten yet?
>>343893492
It will all make sense once you play ZE4.
>>343893235
You can catch glimpse of his shadow, other characters sometimes mention an "old man".
No one calls Sean "Q".
The X-pass for Q is released before Sean dies at one point.
>>343893492
>he didnt get another side/another story mode
>>343893492
To clarify what ending did you get? The eye?
Because it wrapped up everything that it brought to the table.
>>343890020
I enjoyed the game itself, I did not like that this is what we got as the end of the Zero Escape series. I'm not sure where would I vote though.
>>343886736
CUTE!
>>343891549
>Yeah, you and Phi will go back in time 40 years and prevent everything from happening, but we will still live in a fucked up world!
>There is a way to solve it: Schrödinger's...
>...cat!
The Kyle epilogue was a mistake.
>>343893492
>Completed the game in less than a day
You know that there are fragments after the coin toss?
>>343886736
>can replicate 999 events perfectly
>can't tell herself that Brother is an old fuck because f-fragmented information
>acts like a retard the whole game because 'she is not the one in control this time'
Can't wait for Uchi to tell us se was only pretending to be retarded.
How do I play VLR without a vita or 3ds? Can it be emulated?
>>343893825
The eye, yeah. I guess it did wrap up everything but the way it ended feels too abrupt. And we don't know if Mira is caught or not.
>>343894245
Yeah, I completed the flowchart.
>>343894395
wait for pcrelease
>>343894410
Mira ended in jail
>>343886946
Soon I hope, I want to see them being more effective than Akane and Sigma with their 45 years of planning in fighting FtS. The irony just kills me.
Life is simply unfair.
>>343894395
It's getting ported, you'll have to wait for that.
>>343894410
Check your files. There are some epilogue things to read. Nothing for best team other than some depressing stuff from the VLR timeline unfortunately.
>>343889009
Dude they tell you that there are ten people way before that, remember the anagram Akane made. Together with me, we are ten?
So uh was delta there from the start with each group or something? I don't really understand this part.
>>343894837
Delta was with Q-Team the whole time. He is Q.
>>343894837
He was always there with group Q. Every reference someone makes to Q is to him. No one ever calls Sean that.
>>343894837
Delta was the regular 4th participant, part of team q named after him.
Sean is the tenth participant and this fact was only known to team q
>>343891683
Akane wanted to be a good person this time since it's her fault that Junpei became an edgemaster. She hints at that in the pantry. Still she shows her true colors when she starts doing the manipulative crazy stuff like blowing the Reactor.
so i just removed all my ztd filters after completing it (i think, i got all the endings at least).
i thought it was pretty great, horror was better than the first, twists were not on par with the second, but pacing was great imo.
i have two spoiler questionswho was in kyle's body at the end of VLR?did sigma really bring kyle back to the DCOM test site? if so who was kyle?
>>343895203
dropped
>game ends with zero giving carlos a choice to kill him or not
>nothing happens after this
>literally nothing from the past games get answered
Am I missing something here? I just beat the game like 10 minutes ago and I'm confused as fuck.tfw I liked VLR better
>>343895203
Kyle is a dropped plotline
>>343895203
1) Gab
3) Gab
>Sigma tried to replicate Diana in Luna as closely as he could
>but chose to make Luna a pure maiden, whereas Diana was a divorcee
Sigma really couldn't deal with Diana's past, I bet her ex-husband must have been a monster in bed. She must have said the wrong name many times.
>OH FUCK YES, FUCK ME, CHAD! FUCK MY WORTHLESS CUNT!
>D-Diane, this really isn't-
>OH SHUT THE FUCK UP SIGMA, I'M SO CLOSE, DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE RUIN THIS FOR ME! AH, YES, YES, CHAD! HARDER, FASTER, HIT ME! CHOKE ME! SPIT ON ME! I'M YOUR COCKSLEEVE CHAD! YOUR'S AND NO ONE'S ELSES!
>>343895203
>pacing was great
what makes you say that? Admittably it might be partially might fault from the "completitionist" perspective that I tried to balance out the progression down the timelines and made sure I did both votes for every team at the start which resulted in a horribly paced story
we have no answers to either of those questions, if anything you could argue that we have even more plotholes about kyle as he seems to not exist in ZTD
>>343895319
well anon, what past questions do you want answerd?
>>343895404
>but chose to make Luna a pure maiden, whereas Diana was a divorcee
Well, duh. How do you make a robot a divorcee?
>>343895447
Fuck I don't know. I just feel empty inside now.
>>343887068
>Believing that impregnation can be prevented by pulling out
Pre-cum can cause women to get pregnant too. So even if Sigma was really careful he could get unlucky as it only takes 1 sperm and then he has new baby twins
>>343895319
Just wait for ZE4, bro;^)
>>343895536
>Well, duh. How do you make a robot a divorcee?
Program her with fake memories. The bad experiences Diana went through surely shaped her in some way. Omitting them when creating Luna resulted in straying away from the original she was suppose to recreate.
>>343895601
>what is anal sex
it's not like Diana isn's used to it already.
Delta/Phi being born is almost as bad as Akane ditching super esper Carlos in the VLR route.
>>343895601
two sperm, anon
phi and delta are fraternal twins
>>343894835
>>343889009
also they keep talking about how "poor Q is deaf and blind" (well mention it at least once), and Q never gets a portrait in the status screen.
i however was convinced thatafter diana + sig love ending, Q was their baby, and as such Q was delta. so at the mexican standoff i decided to try and kill myself. i was real fucking surprised when the one i thought was q was sean and then one i thought i was was delta
>>343895813
let her have her creampie
>>343895813
Have you never seen Jurassic Park? Life finds a way. The only safe sex is abstinence.
>>343888957
It might be left/right sides of screen.
>>343896000
>The only safe sex is abstinence.
And abstinence was never an option with her
Posting Luna because I don't have enough Diana fanart
>>343895601
there's like a 4% chance
not impossible, but pretty good odds given they had no way of using protection
>>343888751
The AB game was one of my favorite parts of VLR and is also part of the reason why Luna is so likeable and Dio is such a fun person to hate. It was that game's gimmick though, so I don't think Uchi should recycle it
>>343895813
Semen can seep out from her butt to her pussy depending on her position, and you know that they tried more and more kinky shit to prevent themselves from going crazy
>>343886380
Where does Junpei says the nipple quote?
>>343896162
During the Akane Rape scene.
He says hers are way better than Clover's
>>343896160
>Semen can seep out from her butt to her pussy depending on her position
Just like in mu hentais.
>>343896162
Just before one of the puzzle rooms starts I believe but I can't remember when or in which one.
>>343895675
And how do you get those memories? The Sigma who made Luna was the young Sigma, who only knows Diana 3 years before she died. Then he worked 25 years just to create one. I don't think Sigma programmed Luna that pure just because of petty reasons. Luna's innocent is more like of a child, anyway. Remember when Luna hacked ZeroIII and helping Sigma and Phi? To me, her AI seems more of a self-learning AI with initial blank state compared to programmed innocent pure maiden.
>>343895203
>horror was better than the first
I disagree. The cutscenes were goofy as fuck. I honestly don't see how it's better than 999. The part where how nine's remains was described when Junpei passes the corridor sold me instantly.
>>343896162
he talks about how cameras get small. Maybe the Monty Hall or poison room
>>343896332
Sigma had super sperm anon you know that there would eventually be that trooper who'd make it all the way to Diana's womb.
>>343896410
Not going to disagree with you but my first fragment was Akane with a chainsaw, and even though during the escape room I saw what was coming finding Junpei's head shocked me.
>>343896489
>super sperm
>gave birth to complex man
Are Diana's genes that terrible?
Why don't they just shift to a timeline where they caught the terrorist?
>>343895421
me and the friend i played with (at first i thought he was super lucky, i came over to him during the finishing two hours of VLR and boy what a fucking ride that is, and not having to wait years for the next game; in retrospect he was far more disappointed than i was) just kind of selected fragments randomly, depending on what teams we wanted to see more of. i feel we got a great balance that way. only issue was we got all the major twists before finishing all executions, since we didn't understand there were four outcomes to the first decision game.
>>343896410
>>343896635
my first puzzle was that one as well. in general the first puzzles we got were all the most gruesome, with the exception of the incinerator which we got last.
spooky sean and spooky robed murderer and the constant feeling that there was someone there who wasn't supposed to be there all made me more spooked.
>>343896692
because such timeline needs to be created anon.
There are zero timelines where you become president
>>343896410
Was dropping the third person narrative after 999 a mistake?
>>343896882>implying I'm not the president right now
>>343886380
What's all your all star cast /v/?
Carlos sigma phi
Lotus junpei akane
Seven snake Luna
>>343896882
I just need some complex MOTIVATION
WHY DIDN'T ALICE AND CLOVER COME OUT OF THE TRANSPORTER PODS
WHY NOT EVEN DURING A JOKE ENDING
WHAT THE SHIT
where in the game does carlos say "the fuck?"
I don't remember that and apparently it's a maymay now
>>343897093
They're coming out of the pods in ZE4Clover is the terrorist so they have to jump back to VLR and kill her
>>343897152
When Junpei drags them to the machine gun part
>>343897152
After listening to Junpei's best plan.
>>343897312
>agrees anyways
Carlos doesn't give a fuck about Carlos.
>>343897524
what should he do? He dies no matter what
>>343893492
You need to get everyone's hope fragments to reveal the true story
So which zero escape game is your favoriteand why isn't it VLR?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10671235
>>343897792
>3 votes for ZTD
>0 for 999
this can't be real.
/v/ has shit taste in this time line
holy fuck, why was Carlos so great?
>unyielding sense of justice
>incredible SHIFTer
>loyal as fuck
>selfless
>has personal problems but doesn't let them influence his judgments
>doesn't hold anything against people
>physically strong
>handsome as fuck
>smart
>hilarious when time calls for it
>can sense a mood and isn't a cockblock
Carlos is fucking perfection, he is the husbando personified. How can anyone even compare? It would be hilarious if after he proclaims Akane is really hot she would also reciprocate she finds him hot.
>>343897929
I FUCKING TOLD EVERYONE SINCE DAY ONE.
PEOPLE THOUGHT ERIC WOULD EVEN HOLD A CANDLE TO CARLOS, WHEN ERIC IS NOT EVEN FIT TO HOLD HIS SEMEN
Other than the SLEEP WITH ME ending, was Delta mentioned anywhere else?
Why the fuck was there no post ending content? No idea what happens afterwards and what the characters are doing, like what the fuck went wrong? I loved playing the game, but this ending is making me feel some type of way.
>>343898270
They're playing house while searching for terorrist-san. I wis I was joking.
ZTD ending is that fucking bad.
Zero Escape threads are comfy. Nier/Drakengard threads used to be like that, now it's just console war, platniumbabbies and "censorship" shitposting.
>>343898270
There are some log entries after you finish it, but nothing major. Basically, Akane and Jumpy are getting married after they catch the terrorist, Carlos' sister is cured and Sean breaks Mira out of jail so she can go back in past with transporter and kill her younger self to prevent all the murders she did. Also, Eric and Mira are married now. No mention of D-team, so make up your own story like I did
I think the reason for little post-game content is they are setting the floor up for ZE4 if it comes to this and they don't want to get themselves in another corner like with Kyle.
>>343898469
oh my god i can't understand the censorship thing.
it's localized by the same guys that did nier and drakengard. how could there ever be an issue.
How does Sigma's SHIFTing works now? I understand this game's Sigma won't swap consciousness with VLR Sigma anymore, since that future has been erased in the true ending timeline, yes?
>>343898598
People are just finding reasons to shitpost anything. Censorship has now become /v/'s new go-to buzzword after all the stupid shit NoA pulled.
the whole kyle thing is my only major gripe.
the whole game i was going Q IS KYLE
DELTA IS KYLE
KYLE IS ZERO?
WHAT THE FUCK IS A "SEAN"?
anyone have the bosman explaining MGSV pacing gif? my kyle-hype followed that exact curve.
>>343898738
No, vlr still exists, and so all the bad endings. Everything but the ZTD timeline us meaningless.
>>343891683
Akane can only keep her cool when she is in charge. Otherwise
>JUNPEI, WHERE IS MY SWEET PRECIOUS JUNPEI
>I WANT MY JUNPEI NOW GIVE ME MY JUNPEI
>JUNPEI JUNPEI OOGA BOOGA
>>343898738
>since that future has been erased
You're stupid.
>>343898738
>future has been erased
schroedingers cat was smashed over your head in vlr for a reason
>>343887710
Holy shit
Are you retarded?
Mira being the serial killer is literally explained to you.
>>343897204
>>343897250
>>343897312
Thanks anons
>>343898930
WHO KILLED JUNPEI OOGA BOOGA CHAINSAW CARLOS
>>343898175
There is an anagram that you can shift into other meaning but leaving behind the letters to form the world "DELTA"
Guys...
what if the terrorist is the Funyarinpa?
We always follow the consciousnesses of people who willingly jump.
I want a Zero Escape where people know nothing of SHIFTing, yet keep getting SHIFTed around involuntarily.
>>343899334
DON'T YOU DARE DISRESPECT THE FUNYARINPA
>>343899386
Well that's VLR, Sigma doesn't know what he's doing most of the game.
>tfw no Carlos/Junpei ending where too much alcohol is involved and Junpei won't stop asking if Carlos is interested in him
other anon had the right idea. somebody write this.
>>343891683
It's just bad writing. They always tried to push a scenario where two people are at odds during the decision game but often forget to take their characters into account, like Phi and Sigma being at odds when they were drinking the antidote and in the incinerator room when it wouldve made more sense for her to agree with Sigma. In this case it was edgy evil Junpei vs sweet angelic Akane.
What is it with Phi and old men? What does she have against them?
>>343899603
They keep kidnapping her while being part of her family. She's legit to be pissed off.
>>343899524
I can't believe phi "let's betray them" klim didn't want to push the button in the showers
>>343899710
i think that's part of her character.
the first time zero revealed he released rad-6 to kill six billion terrorists, she was angry at him.
when he revealed none had died but 8 billion might die due to terrorism, she was also pissed at him.
she's just fucking pissed at anyone trying to answer a dilemma.
>>343886380
Question : When Voting, Junpei suggests to vote for Q team, when you're in the poison room and find out Q team has been executed, Junpei is really shocked they're dead.
Was Junpei Mind hacked to suggest to vote for Q?
>>343899710
she was trying to keep blood off of dianas hands. even though she told diana to guarantee her death in the incinerator.
Who is the best character?
For me
Carl > Sean > Phi > Siggy > Junpy > Diana > Akane > Mira > Eric
>>343899894
No Junpei just forgot that he's a traitor
>>343896975
>Ace, Dio, Eric
Oh my God, they don't shut up.
>9th Man, Quark, Akane
Meh.
>Lotus, Alive, Mira
fat tits.
>>343900153
But they weren't injected with memory wipe drug for the execution round.
>>343899290
The title of the game has something about delta too
>>343899994
Carlos > Sigma > Sean > Diana > Phi > Junpei > Akane > Mira > Eric
>>343887773
>not liking ruse-master reverse-redherring Dio
Press the button?
>>343900285
>9th man, Quark, Gab
fix'd
>>343886380
Honestly I kind of wish there was a timeline where Junpei shifted and remembered Quark
The grandpa-grandson relationship was so much better than the shit he has with Akane
>>343900506
It says do not press.
>>343899043
>>343898943
>>343898874
You are focusing on wrong part. Will Sigma SHIFT to the future on April 19, 2029, just like he SHIFTed from the future into the past in the ending of VLR?
You know why Ace is still the best villain?
He became an ass cause he can't see feces.
>>343900747
Only in the VLR timeline, otherwise old Sigma just stays in his body.
>>343900708
>A button says do not press
What better reason to push it?
Apologize.
>>343899994
Based on enjoyment levels:
Carlos > Sigma > Diana > Junpei > Mira > Sean > Everyone else
>>343899603
They didn't pay her for pleasing them
>>343901008
It's an elephant.
>>343900862
Good, that's what I wanted to hear. I didn't want young, irresponsible Sigma that would probably hit on Phi suddenly shifting into body of Diane's husband.
>>343900506
>>343900708
muh human nature
>>343900708
Remember, Anon is the enemy! We need to do the opposite!
>>343900763
Ace wasn't even a villain.
>>343899994
Carlos>Diana>Phi>Sigma>Sean>Mira>Akane>Junpei>Eric
pretty much anyone below Sean was rather boring, Mira got voted on top because at least she hot while being boring.
>>343900986
>being this much of a rebellious teen
Just do what it says, faggot.
>>343900763
>feces
Talk about shit luck.
>>343900708
What about a half press?
Good tier:
Sigma, Carlos, Diana, Sean, Phi
Okay tier:
Junpei, Akane, Eric, Mira
>>343900506
Sigma didn't have this kind of bullshit when he was Zero
>>343901583
switch phi and junpei and it's good
>>343899994
>>343900395
>>343901016
>>343901361
Why are we ignoring Delta?
Also, who else called thatPhi is Sigma and Diana's daughter. Pretty easy to deduce, but was still happy when it got revealed.
>>343901521
A press in a press, you can't say it's half
>>343901830
At which point did you call it?
>>343901830
Pretty much everyone on /v/ guessed she was their daughter when her design was revealed, the eyebrows made it obvious. But it seemed so obvious that it still managed to surprise me when it turned out to be true.
>>343901994
Before the game got released.I suspected it when the VLR Q&A said Sigma and Phi wouldn't be a couple, but specifically when colored Phi art got out and her eyebrows were red.
>>343901830
I was breezing through the game, so a lot of foreshadows flew past my head. I didn't know she was their daughter right until the end when they wrote their names.
>>343902191
I'm bad at filenames.
>>343902071
As soon as she mentioned that her hair was dyed, I was just waiting for it to happen.
>>343902191
toki no jirema
>>343901830
Did I not say 'everyone else'
I hate that it makes me feel like this game needs a sequel or a 100 questions Q&A to be complete.
I can't help but feel like something went wrong somewhere and the true story hasn't been told.
>>343888662
>>343888730
>>343888793
Aside from the music rehash, which I felt was a bit fitting as if to callback to the previous 2 games, you pretty much hit my opinions 100%the doot doot doot, why does it give so much anxiety? WHY?
Oh, and the unresolved plotlines (including Rad-6 just being a hoopty doop thing that happens like once in a billion timelines) pissed me off, too.
>>343901830
Being voice by Wesker/Gendo is cheating.
>>343890075
I'm gonna make a cr-
>>343890434
GOD DAMNIT why did I only wake up now
with as little hinting/spoilering as possible, can someone give me a hint on what fragment(s) to look in for the trio of Force/Quit segments?
I figure the first word for D-teams isBroochbut i got nothing for the other word or teams.
Probably didn't help that I played every fragment from each team before starting on any of the force quit sections over a couple of days in the hope of keeping each teams progress level but it seems to have fucked me over cause i can't remember any passwords or this second mothers memento.
Would prefer just to be hinted at where to look rather than given the answer outright.
>>343902650
>that happens like once in a billion timelines
Why were you under impression that just because we were able to experience something, it is the usual outcome?
Most solar systems in galaxy have two stars, our system is rare exemption from that rule.
>>343902825
Because it makes everything pointless.
Just shift brah
Someone help me here, I'm worried
So, Sigma ~70 is at Sigma 22 body okay?
wasn't he supposed to switch back when this shit is over?
so we got some stranger sigma dating diana and has no idea who his daughter
this or
sigma is going past 80 years living with diana and phi while 22 sigma is alone at the moon
>>343902801
Brooch
Blue bird
>>343902801
I got stuck in that part too
You have to make all teams die at the first voting part
>>343902905
There is no switching back, young sigma is studying for 45 years and then when he becomes old sigma he shifts back to ZTD and lives the rest of his life in whatever outcome he gets.
>Diana getting wet when touching sigmas chest and dick while hes strapped in the gun chair
Woah lewd
>>343902926
>blue bird
wait, what? I put in 'music box'
>>343902801
I'm pretty sure the answers come from the other endings
>>343901994
that theory exist since vlr
> No Kyle
> No Aoi
> No Left (or a specifically promised Dio)
I like the D-Team story. C-Team had its moments, but it felt like Akane wasn't portrayed consistently at all. Q-Team was just frustrating because I got Mira's ending first, leading me to constantly try and save Eric only to be stopped by him being retarded.
Delta was ultimately a little unsatisfying.
The game is ok still, but it's by far the weakest in the trilogy. I was especially upset to see the achievement for escaping all the rooms pop up when there was still like over 2 hours to go.
>>343903168
They both work, thankfully
>>343903143
No, he means what happens to the Sigma that's playing VLR "while" ZTD happens and we reach point E.
>>343902801
Q-Team's password is revealed after you correctly identify who killed Mira to Eric (the second time).
C-Team's password is revealed shortly after this, when Junpei and Akane are sent to a timeline where they don't belong.
>>343902905
>wasn't he supposed to switch back when this shit is over?
He did, in the VLR timeline.
>so we got some stranger sigma dating diana and has no idea who his daughter
Yes in the VLR timeline from his point of view Sigma meets Diana for the first time on the moon.
>>343902905
Not in true ending. It only happens in the Apocalype ending. You even get a log entry describing Diana dying on the Moon
>>343902825
'cause the insinuation in the VLR timeline is that Akane spent a gorillion years delving into the deus ex machina field and there's just rad-6 fucking everywhere like holy shit all the timelines Sigma all of them a l l o f t h e m
nope
just one out of like five hundred if you factor in the fact that the only reason rad-6 gets released, like, ever, is if
* D Team and Q Team votes to execute C team
* D Team get the brilliant fucking idea to go use a bomb that can blow up at any second during the segment if you fuck up
* Q Team decides to... was it NOT inject Rad-6? Must've been. So Mira takes up an injector.
And whatever else, but those are the major factors within ZTD. If even one of those things are wrong, Rad-6 does not get released because of circumstances.
>>343903224
I actually entered blue_bird, but that's neat I guess if both works.
>>343902905
by the end of the vlr timeline when akane hits sigma with the knife, old sigma is back in his body at the moon, and young sigma is back in 2029 to develop the nonary game, where it loops back around.
>>343893235
>>343893582
I found one more hint that tells you about Q.You only get the skull and crossbones icon, aka a game over, if the "leader" of a team dies. This is why the story continues when anyone except Carlos, Q or Diana dies. There's only one exception: when Zero and Sean are in the same room (note that when you check the team status, even though Zero directly says the boy's name is Sean, Q is still marked as alive). Additionally, In all scenarios except one, Sean is killed with Q either immediately before, after or at the same time. There is one exception; when you choose to inject Radical-6. After Mira stabs Eric, he is immediately marked as dead. However, after Sean is stabbed, Q is still marked as alive for the remainder of the cutscene. I assume that Mira, seeing Q as no threat, leaves him to starve to death.
>>343902889
not for that timeline, and without radical-6 there is no man on the moon
>>343903295
OH AND I ALSO FORGOT
* DOESN'T WIN THE FUCKING 50/50 COIN FLIP GAME AT THE START
art of Sean pushing Q's chair around when
QA when?
>>343903436
>implying Mira didn't make Eric do it
>>343903436
That would actually be very cute. I'd draw it but I'm shit at it.
>>343903301
I think bird cage works too
So, no answer to the religious fanatic, although Brother(delta) is on a mission from God.
Where is the consciousness of K(?). Is it the player again?
Delta is never made mention or shown to be a part of Q team, how does any of that make sense when his name is inputted for answers.
I feel like this game made more holes in the plot than filled.
>>343903503
sent ;)
>>343903237
>>343903178
Perhaps there's something else i need to have done but for all sections I'm at a dead end
>bunch of fragments that are cut short because of 'locked' nodes
>don't know who killed Mira
>Don't know the fourth way out of the 3-way standoff
>Don't know code for Door of Truth
Only endings I've got are D-team 1 (Radical 6/VLR canon timeline) and Q-End 1 (Shoot Eric)
Q-End 1 was my very first fragment choice actually but i haven't been able to complete any but D-End 1 since then.
out of those which should i already have the answer to
>>343903503
>Please look forward to Zero Escape 4!
>Please look forward to Zero Escape 4!
>Please look forward to Zero Escape 4!
>Please look forward to Zero Escape 4!
>Please look forward to Zero Escape 4!
>Please look forward to Zero Escape 4!
>>343903647
This will be answered in ZE4.
>>343903647
>Delta is never made mention or shown to be a part of Q team
Read the thread.
>>343903224
I put in bird cage, which doesn't work. I had to check the cutscene again because I didn't think the focus was on the blue bird but rather the cage that holds it.
>>343903295
Actually if that lone snail didn't cause the death of that woman, 6 billion people wouldn't die, because Radical-6 would've never been released. It all goes back to that one snail.
>>343902801
have you had all teams executed at the first decision game?
just redo them until they all die, otherwise.
What's with Japan's obsession over "social experiment people locked in a game" setting?
>>343903680
With Mira, put inI don't know
With the fourth way, it's either"no one" or "Delta"
If there's locked nodes at this point, it usually means there's some branch you -haven't- done yet at some point and just have to go hunting for it
>>343903647
It's rare, but whenever Q-Team looks and talks directly into the camera, they're talking directly to Delta.
so /v/
At which point of the game you started to use a note?
transporter room here
>>343903812
I've voted for both options with all three teamsI only saw one bomb necklace cutscene though, D-teams. Should I have got a bomb necklace cutscene for every team?
>>343903647
Delta's shadow is visible in many of Q-team's cinematics, the game tricks you with camera angles and Eric does mention a "chairbound old man" at one point. The clues are there, but not easy to spot until you think back on it after the reveal.I think I'm one of the few people who actually liked that twist
>>343903680
Wait the timer out when Eric is asking you who killed Mira in order to progress.
>>343903647
>So, no answer to the religious fanatic
Left in the open for possible 4th game or Delta could have just been BSing
>Where is the consciousness of K(?). Is it the player again?
Honestly don't know. A lot of people say it's Gab but that hardly makes sense considering ? knew about the entirety of VLR
>Delta is never made mention or shown to be a part of Q team, how does any of that make sense when his name is inputted for answers.
He is, you, like most people, just probably weren't paying attention during your playthough.
The only thing I find that really does make sense and still bothers me a little is how Mira and Eric knew Seans name the entire time but never uses it until end game moments. They just call him Kid or Brat. Then again maybe its like I said, I wasn't paying attention.
>>343903954
Was the cardgame thingy useful at all? You could use math to find every number except 1, 7 and 11 and then you could just guess from there.
>>343903954
what the fuck
you know there is a note within the game?
>>343903884
completely different social structures, I'm guessing
I'm kind of a sucker for them myself
>>343903984
Yes, you have to see all of them. Just keep voting for C and Q teams until you see their cinematics
So how did Sean know Delta's name? The only time you hear that name is in the Twins ending. Is it just Morphogenetic Field stuff?
>>343903954
since I saw thatSean could lift the force quit box
I knew had to keep in mind little things like that
>>343892568
Japan's shit taste knows no bounds
>>343903884
It's fun to see people who don't match locked in a setting, that's 100% ensured delicious drama
>>343903954
After I received the second set of X-Passes and realized that they were not the same as the ones I had heard before. Thinking they were a big clue, I decided to write them all down. That's where I started, and it helped a lot.
>>343903954
Only for this.
>>343903954
Rec Room. Started writing down some equations and tried to solve theSPINpuzzle.
I thought it wasPINSat first honestly
>>343904068
I would never have actually thought of that
With the amount of responses he has for things you can enter in I thought it had to be something, plus i didn't see buying time helping the situation.
>>343903884
Probably similar reasons to western obsession with post apocalypse/zombie setting and the social and moral dilemmas that rise from them
>>343904273
I don't understand how people got stuck on that part, was fairly straightforward to me.I had to look up how to arrange the pieces in the heart puzzle though
>>343895601
>being this virgin
>>343904117
It only ever shows you the same three cards, which are the ones you just listed. You don't need to guess because after you've solved everything but that, the card game will help you figure out what cards go in what positions. At least, that's what I did.
>>343904196Sean's quantum computer brain is just like any SHIFTer, he accessed the morphogenetic field and obtained the name.
>>343904273
>thought it was PINS
Kek, that one got me too. And then it made sense.
>>343904398
I think it was because of the how to arrange the letters puzzle.
>The worst thing Carlos does is kill Akane after the crazy bitch cuts his arm off with a chainsaw
>Even then it was very obviously self-defense and he felt bad about it
>Akane and Junpei kill him in other timelines too due to MISUNDERSTANDINGS/cold-blooded pragmatism
>>343898768
Kyle wasGab
>>343889739
The thing that seemed weirdest to me was when Sigma was talking about Q-team being executed and made that "He couldn't even see or hear when" comment about Q, but I kind of rationalized it as "Maybe Sigma just assumed he couldn't see or hear through the helmet", but then also forgot that whenever they see Sean in timelines it's clear they don't know who this kid is.
>>343904270
Hell I wrote "Burt" in my notes too. I'll see if I can find them and post them when I'm done at work.
>>343903954
>all those "greater than" comparison
Nigga there's only so many primes under twelve, one cube, two squares, an you know wind = 0.
>>343893437
>>343892568
Is there anything better than japanese developers making games for western tastes?
>>343904398
To be fair it is really fucking hard to see where you've placed pieces because of the colouring. I had a really hard time seeing exactly where they go until I realizedpieces in the wrong place in the heart puzzle are very slightly raised.
>>343904398
I think it's because a lot of people miss getting the 'order' note that puts the letters in their proper order and this makes their brain go full retard.
I had no trouble with the heart puzzle, though.It's more about how you fill in the white spaces than filling in the red. Knowing that, it becomes 100x easier.
>>343901830
Everyone else in the game ignored Delta, why shouldn't we?
>>343904452
>>343896112
>>343895601
INFINITE TIMELINES, SON
>>343904270
Could've solved that easily with just math
>>343904694
Never fuck with the yandere tendencies from both Junpei and Akane.
>>343904794
Do not underestimate the driving force of man that is the unwillingness to perform mathematics, and the extent to which they will go to do anything else possible to circumvent that.
... I'm not stupid at math.
honest.
Someone post the Super Saiyan Carlos webm
>still no preggo porn of diana
drawfags get on this
>>343904163
All I see, no matter who i vote for and who i vote with, is D-team getting executed after i place the vote.
Even with D-team
Am i being fucking retarded here because i feel like it
>>343904085
there is not going to be a 4th game, the future is for what the characters decide to do, the menace of radical-6 is over and the religious fanatic its the result of branching the timeline for a uncertain future where mankind survive, this mean that there are dangers in the future no matter what you do
>>343904147
The memo function in ZTD doesn't let you view your notes at the same time as puzzles though. Which is weird since VLR did let you do that - I don't know why they actually took away memo features that were in the previous game, but the end result is that it was a lot more frustrating to use the in-game notes function than it was in VLR.
>>343900506
PRESS THE BUTTON
PRESS IIIIIITTTT
>>343901008
what the fuck is this?
>>343905074
You mean you don't know?
>>343904794
Yeah, the notes of the paper on top were all just me trying to figure things out. After that I just listed out all the numbers smaller and bigger than flower on the other paper, did some basic multiplication and division and got my answers.
>>343904942
Are you actually voting or just watching the cinematics afterwards?
You have to redo the segment where you input the vote.
>>343904694
My friend and I played through that shit together and when we got to the ambidex game we knew Junpei was gonna pull his bullshit
>>343904942
Are you jumping straight to the cinematic that plays after you vote? You have to vote manually I think. If that's not it then I guess you just have shitty luck, it took me 2 tries to get the last execution cinematic when I backtracked.
>>343905013
ARE YOU SURE?
>>343905074
It's a cat. Stupid, I know.
>>343903792
People keep forgetting about the grandfather who took his grandson to the park who then found a snail on the ground and took it with him and then when he had to leave decided to put the snail down in the middle of the path.
>>343901994
"i love you, i don't want you to die" or some shit like that, at the moment when the quotes from each character was revealed, then "actually my hair is red" god plz, there is some retard here that actually didn't get it?
>>343904942
>>343904163
Ah, guess the game logs how all your current votes have gone and then gives you the cutscene based on that, regardless of your previous votes
>>343905153
>>343905174
I was randomly voting with each team but i guess the votes ended up with D-team dead or no-one dead each time since i didn't think it was being kept track of in current time
>>343904981
>the result of branching the timeline for a uncertain future where mankind survive
You can have an uncertain future without the looming threat of mankind going extinct.
Imagine this: the plot point with the religious fanatic doesn't exist and the ultimate goal was stopping radical-6.
Happy end, everyone is alive and radical-6 is not released. We're now in a new timeline no one has experienced before. The future is uncertain now since it's a new timeline, but there's no thread/threat left hanging for our characters to resolve off-screen.
Wouldn't that be better?
So the flower puzzle was the most tedious in the game, right?
>>343905308
It's not really that strange for girls to say that to each other.
So I just redid the puzzle leading up to Sigma's Russian Roulette and got him to Survive.
Did simply redoing the puzzle cause that? Cause no matter how many times i redid the cutscene the shot never changed.
>>343905492
It's all RNG.
POST MORE ZTD OCs
>>343905441
The heart puzzle was worse I think.
>>343905441
I hated Heart puzzle the most, flowers I just trial and error and always did 4 symmetric pieces until everything worked.
>>343905536
>OCs
you mean OC, right
or do you really want original characters
>>343905441
I got tired of it and started randomly tapping squares and ended up getting it right
The laser puzzle was more annoying
>>343905532
I redid the cutscene roughly 8 times and every shot was live
it really had nothing to do with redoing the puzzle?
>>343905441
which one was flower?
How come we don't see the game from Deltas perspective when the coin flip happens or when he's talking with Sean?
>>343905619
>original creation
>original content
>orange county
you know what he means, anon
>>343905536
As you wish.
>>343905664
You were very unlucky.
>>343903884
Isn't that known as Reality TV?
>>343905546
>>343905571
I don't remember any heart puzzle. Which one is it?
>>343905441
Tedious: Flower
Boring: Base-12
Obtuse: Locker Lock (the solution, don't know why it took me 40 minutes to find it in the room)
Challenging:Letting the timer run out on WHO KILLED MIRA
>>343905103
is a VLR puzzle?
>>343905731
Recreating the heart shape in the rec room
>>343905449
Stop watching yurishit.
>>343905436
the result of radical-6 was the fanatic to be killed, you cant have both, you can just make the fanatic disappear because it has nothing to do with the mars mission site
>>343905664
you have to redo the choice not rewatch the cutscene lol
>>343905449
but it is for phi, at least the VLR phi never whould say that, at least that.... oh wait no shit
>>343905804
Oh, that one wasn't as bad as the greek letter one imo. But it wasn't exactly challenging either, just... annoying.
honestly, puzzles in this game were easy as fuck
>>343903954
I kept a google doc open for both 999 and VLR to take notes and write down my theories.
For 999 I correctly sussed out Akane and Ace as the two most suspicious characters and both turned out to be right in a sense.
In VLR I figured that Dio would be a "Too suspicious to be suspicious" villain, and at the start I jokingly declared that Sigma was Zero, so it was pretty weird to later find out that was right.
I tried to do the same thing for ZTD but it didn't work out. The fragmented style of storytelling made it difficult for me to come up with any solid reasoning, and in the end Zero wasn't one of the nine so it would have been a wasted effort.
Mostly the document ended up being a dumping ground for puzzle notes.
>>343905852
The choice to shoot?
That's what i meant by redoing it 8 times
Shot once, dead.
Didn't Shoot, saved Phi
Shot 7ish times while clicking a different spot to 'shoot' each time, all dead
Redid puzzle, Blank shot first time.
>>343905717
Perfect.
>>343905957
and very few of them/repetitive anyone who played this game for puzzles
>>343905847
Yeah, if you remove the fanatic you obviously have to make up a new reason for why the radical-6 had to be released.
I don't care what it is as long as it's not a bigger threat to humanity than radical-6.
>>343905664
I thought I might get some info for use in other branches by exploring that particular outcome.
I had to pull the trigger 5 times before I got a live round.Didn't even get to feel good about it, unlike you
>mfw didn't have any problems with all the puzzles most agree to be the toughestExcept the transporter.
>>343906084
Snails.
An army of fucking snails.
>>343905757
>Challenging
I got it by accident when trying to decide on a new name on my 4th try
>>343886946
>3rd-person shooter spinoff a la Another Episode
Would not mind.
>>343901994
Phi talks about her parents and then Sigma says "Your parents must have been quite the characters", while Sigma and Diana standing next to each other are the only people on screen, shown from a low angle.
>>343906167
>mfw didn't have problems with any puzzles most people agree to be the hardest
but it did take me 25 minutes to work out i had to stab the poster precisely in the chest
>>343903954
I was already using a notebook for replayingLa Mulana, so I wrote down notes from the beginning.
>>343905980
Nope, just the decision segment.
RNGesus be praised, all that.
>>343905961
I had so many things written up even before the 3ds version leaked that were half-correct or correct in some form, and other things that were absolutely wrong (like who Zero was)
>>343906198
I still can't believe that article about snails causing a car crash is real and was posted June 29th, but it is.
>people upset about "mind hack" when it was mentioned as being possible in the previous games
>>343905980
>>343906134
It's literally a 50:50 chance every time
>there exists an alternate history where you pull the trigger 100 times and it fires each time
In the true end, does Sigma 67 in 22 years old boy switch back in the future?
Where does he switch back to? in the VLR time line (apocalypse)?
Does this mean that when the young Sigma consciousness ig going to switch back to april 2029 from the shitty future, he actually has the chance (now) of ending up in the true happy end of ZTD?
Does this mean, also, that old Sigma is surely fucked, since just after ZTD true end he will be forced to switch back in the shitty future?
Or maybe 67 years old Sigma doesn't switch anymore due to timeline change and gets a free new body, free to enjoy his new 45 years without having to study science fiction subjects?
>>343906167
>work out what the 12 numbers are
>gets the wheels that convert 10 to 13 base
>still need to look up the answer
Why can't I into maths?
>>343905961
The fragmented story telling is kind of ingenious to me. Most of the time you wake up not even knowing which timeline you're in, until the announcer lists who is dead and whatnot.
It's as if the memory loss drug also works on you, leaving you confused as well when you at first start a new fragment, until you slowly work out which timeline you're in.
>>343906483
That reminds me, imagine how much luck you need to actually win that rock paper scissors tournament.
>>343906462
I think people are less on the whole 'mind hack is a thing' and more about 'lol it's called mind hack also I made myself die lol k thx bye'
Probably wouldn't be griping about it as much if it was portrayed more as a critically dangerous power, sowing animosity, airing dirty secrets, that stuff. Actually using the power to display the extent of it to really instill a sense of danger.
Instead, he kills a dog and gets rider kicked to the face.
>>343906636
and just think how many hearthstone tournaments are played every week
>>343906167
The transporter was only hard in that it took me a fucking hour to realize that the "tree root" structure was actually interactable. I had no fucking clue that I had gotten the answer right because the rotating disc puzzle doesn't go DING DING DING CORRECT when you solve it, holy fuck that drove me insane.
>>343906462
I get why people would feel apprehensive about it, but it's not really anymore outlandish than SHIFTing and nobody seems to have a problem with that. They're both ideas founded in fourth-wall breaking mechanics (Players moving freely around a game timeline and players being able to make a character do something they wouldn't usually do)
so, I'm kinda afraid to ask, but I must know...
How are the sales for ZTD?
Push the button and everyone in this thread except you dies. Dont push it and no one dies.... Who will be the first?
Playing through this now for the first time, feels like there's things i'm missing though. Anything i should know from the prequels ?
The only game i played like this was 999, and i didn't even finish it
>>343906167
I didn't mean to post that reaction image.
>>343906778
Me! pus hit!
I dropped this piece of shit like 20 minutes in when I was able to just keep going back and watch all the different choices with no repercussions and I realized it was just a shitty VN about making bad decisions.
I almost dropped it when I won the coin toss on the first choice. I have no idea if that was a good end or not but jesus christ that was retarded.
What a piece of garbage I can't believe people liked this dumb shit.
>>343906778
No one would push it right?
>>343906621
Yeah, I grew to understand and appreciate why it was necessary, but it was pretty exhausting trying to analyse what was going on like I did for the previous games.
>>343906778
*rush to push button*
>>343906778
H-here I go!
>>343906796
>playing a story-based game without playing previous entries
literally retarded
>>343906796
Oh, you know, only just about EVERYTHING IN THE TWO GAMES YOU DIDN'T COMPLETE
>>343906778
Wait, this is a good thing!
>SHIFT
>>343906906
I googled it but can't find the titles, what console are they on ?
>>343886565
underrated
>>343906827
How does it feel to be underage?
>>343906778
Press it, I won't die!
>>343906847
>>343906861
>>343906884
get rekt, faggots. You all die now.
>>343906951
Push the button and kill me! I won't die!
>drops dead on the floor
>HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>343906991
>He didn't like my shitty incoherent VN better call him underaged
>>343906951
>SHIFT into a reality where you just shit on the floor in front of everybody
The embarrassment.
>>343906827
I played 999 and hated it, even after getting all the endings.
I have VLR for the DS and my file got corrupted.
The girls had sucky designs. And it was a clusterfuck of serious ad LOLSOQUIRKY, but not in a good way. And it read like a shitty shonen manga where people are 2deep4u and it's extremely pretentious and grating.
I honestly don't understand what people like about this series. All I saw were shitty characters, shitty forced humor, shitty designs, and shitty faux intellectualism.
I guess the puzzles were ALRIGHT, though.
>>343907105
You are literally underage for playing a game without doing research about it. Zero Escape is narrative heavy and has always been mostly VN. Go shit on another game.
>>343907105
How do you know it's incoherent if you played 20 minutes of it, shitposter?
Also, you keep using 'VN' as some negative term. Everyone that bought/pirated it knew they will get VN with escape room elements. What, did you expect a shooter or something?
>>343906796
The game is designed around the player following the story directly from 999 and Virtue's Last Reward
>>343906827
>>343906991
>>343907289
>>343907336
I agree the Game Over ends seem rather pointless.
What the fuck is the point of D-Teams 'press or don't press the blue button' when pressing it gets you an instant game over and then you reload and just pick the other option with no repercussion?
I mean i expected pressing it to be bad but did it for completionist sake and for what fucking purpose did that choice even exist?
Exactly the same as 'take/don't take antidote to poison' scenes where one choice results in an instant game over where you just pick the other one but with no gain or detriment.
I don't mind the Game Over scenes where you learn new information and/or new things are revealed but the instant 'game over pick the other one' choices seem extremely redundant.
>>343907273
>shitty characters, shitty forced humor, shitty designs, and shitty faux intellectualism.
shut the fuck up and gimme my shitty fried rice
>>343904273
I put PINS, SNIP, NIPS and then gave up.
I was so fucking pissed that it was SPIN
>>343906523
>Or maybe 67 years old Sigma doesn't switch anymore due to timeline change and gets a free new body, free to enjoy his new 45 years without having to study science fiction subjects?
This one.
are there any other stories, in any medium, where there is a character like Carlos?
Sort of heroic characters who as soon as he discovers about his ability he abuses it like anyone would do.
>sigma spent 10 months doing nothing but having passionate sex with diana
this is the only ending I need
>>343907492
Thanks, i guess i have to wait for ports of those too
>>343907583
Groundhog day
If Carlos didn't save Akane and Junpei would they spend 10 months making twins?
Actually they have access to the pantry so they could probably spend years together.
>>343907856
Already seen it, cool movie
explain this to me pls
infection ending, sigma without arms, radical6 phi, etc
they say "oh so this is the timeline that will lead to virtue's last reward"
...but akane and junpei are dead? I think i'm missing something really obvious here
>>343907662
>no one will make hentai doujin of this particular scene
Fuck.
>>343908048
You'll understand later
>>343908048finish the damn game
>>343908048
Keep playing.
>>343908048
Akane and Junpei use the transporter to get there.
>>343908048
PLAY
THE
GAME
>>343908048
PLAY THE GAME
>>343904304
>MFW I blamed the dog.
>>343905757
Just type I dont know nigger thats what I did
Hopes these threads die soon. Massive drop in quality since the first two days out. Filled with autists and /v/edditors now.
>>343909003
The more people think about it the more flaws they find
>>343907496
Seriously, it's like a 13 year old tried to make an edgy lab rat game after playing Phoenix Wright and Dangan Ronpa. It's not evenfun.
>>343909003
Everything that can be said has already been said.
At this point it's just meme reposting.
>>343909125
Everyone knew all about the flaws since day one retard.
>>343905441
>locker room
>can't find the combination for one of the lockers
>the solution is actually on the fucking lid, but you have to turn off the light first
That one got me good. I was looking around like an idiot, trying to turn on taps or attaching the hose anywhere I can click.
>>343903954
I like your Junpei sketch, anon
>>343908114
>>343908129
>>343908142
>>343908156
>>343908171
>>343908323
That's the point. I finished the game and couldn't understand that. Guess I'm just that bad at following the plot, sorry guys.
Fuck, I didn't have this problems with VLR
>>343909254it took 10 replies to finally someone comment on it
thank you anon
>>343909306
Literally just open the global flowchart.
>>343908048
Finish the gameand prepare to be really disappointed
>>343909173
You hated it and that's ok. My question is why you forced yourself to finish a game you clearly were not enjoying, and then grab the sequel. 999 was almost 20 hours if I recall correctly.
>>343909306
C-END-1
>>343909173
I found your problem. You enjoy terrible games like phoenix wright and danganronpa
>>343904398
the heart was the one puzzle that made me want to look shit up
Luckily I didn't but fuck, i spent one hour on that shit
>>343909306
Akane and Junpei transported to the timeline where Phi (injected with Radical-6), Diana (radio transmission that you hear in VLR) and Sigma (lost his arms and an eye) survived.
The one where Carlos saved both of them. When Akane realized she end up at the fucked up timeline, she knows she she has to work another 45 years for VLR again.
>>343909681
Oh be nice, Phoenix Wright had a good trilogy
I wanna see what happened at the Free the Soul ritual that Akane attended. Honestly, the whole game was pretty disappointing on the topic Free the Soul. We still have basically no idea what they're about.
I also preferred the long-haired look they gave Brother in VLR.
VLR was the best game. Flowchart was a superb addition, especially the "you chose betray part" and how it ties into the story itself. Also, the bad endings were way better than ZTD, because they often still gave you some valuable info (like Sigma robot arms). ZTD didn't really bring anything new like VLR did. Fragment system was cool but I feel like it wasn't utilized that well, and I guess the parts where you type in the person's name were also neat.
>>343909837
I found one of the last sliding lock puzzles in that sleep room to be the hardest.
I solved the heard puzzle in under a minute, was there some trick to it people were missing?
>>343909562
First game was because people kept saying it was good. Even when things are overhyped (which it wasn't), I can enjoy them. But I was just rolling my eyes the whole time and wondering why they were shoehorning in humor and fanservice that just felt out of place.
VLR was just given to me as a present, so I tried it.
>>343909681
>Phoenix Wright
Fite me.
>>343909681
Second one sucked. Despair girls was retarded. But the first one I have fond memories of, at least.
>>343910067
VLR was definitely better than ZTD but I'm still pretty sure that 999 is the best overall. It just had the strongest writing and atmosphere for my money. I think I got the most enjoyment out of it out of all the games even though I'd already had most of the twists spoiled for me just because the execution was so good. I also prefer it because it's a self-contained story that doesn't delve into the completely over the top sci-fi of the Sigma arc.
>>343910067
>Fragment system was cool
literally ruined the whole game
also, in VLR the left choice in the flowchart was ALWAYS ally and right betrail
in ZTD the choices are mixed, so you couldn't know which one would lead you to the bad ending before testing
>>343910283
dude, SDR2 is the best thing that came out from dangaronpa series
>>343910067
I liked how in VLR the characters had flashbacks to events in other timelines AFTER you had experienced them yourself. In ZTD the had flashbacks regardless of if you had seen it, which I found irritating.
>all Delta needed to do to get Crash Keys out of his hair was to close the freezer door in the Nevada Gigantic replica
C O M P L E X
A complete shit game.
>Already known map of event
This removes the risk and pressure and it changes the game into a boring tick the checkboxes game
>The twist (lololol the twins) was poor compared to VLRs (mars, future, old sigma, shifting, radical 6)
This game was like pure shit filler. You didnt need the radical 6 shit and the decision game just so you can motivate some faggots as proven by previous games with smaller scopes.
>No Santa, Seven, Lotus return
>No weird revelations about old characters
>VLR characters never addressed
>Where the fuck is Kyle (-?- version) ?
>10 hours shorter than VLR
>You stopped radical six...HOWEVER...there is a terrorist with nukes, buy next game
>Mira killing Eric's mother is never addressed. Or the fact that she is a horrible serial killer
Everyfucking time. Every motherfucking fucking time.
>hurrdurr the last game could have been better but he was held back by the company/publishers/developers
>His next game he has free reign, it will be the true game!
>Its actually shit and inferior to the game in which he was supposedly held back by his bosses
>>343899994
Sigma = Diana > Phi > Carlos > Phi > >>> Eric > Sean > Mira > Akane
>>343910691
>Mira above Akane
>Eric above anything
>Ignoring Junpei
>Carlos below Phi when she was dead the whole game
How much of a shit taste do you have?
>>343910834
Carlos is both above and below Phi, m8
>>343910834
I'm kind of sad Phi wasn't all that relevant this time around.
>>343910928
That's part of the point of the character. She comes off as mysterious/special and really integral but really she is just a normal girl with the same powers as everyone else.
>>343899994
Carlos=Sigma>Junpei>Sean>Phi>Diana>Akane>Eric>Mira
>>343910283
>I hate shoehorned humor and fanfiction
>I like Ace Attorney
Found a serious contradiction here.
>>343911281
Fanservice*
>>343910532
>best thing that came out of the series
That isn't saying much
>>343910691
I usually don't bother with these ratings, but I tried arranging the characters in my mind and I hit a roadblock. After putting Carlos, I couldn't decide on who to put afterwards as if I have no strong opinion on the rest of them.
Fucking ZTD, man.
>>343910834
Akane is a complete shit characters whse personality can't stay consistent in the slightest (goes from the girl next door to mysterious, killing, potentially evil mastermind in 999 back to the girl next door in ZTD).
Eric is only above Sean, Mira, and Akane.
Meant to put Junpei after Carlos
>>343911463
Besides Carlos, Eric, and Zero, the rest of the ZTD cast is pretty forgettable.
someone make a new thread
>>343910152
people's brains just work differently I found all the sliding lock puzzles jokes and the heart was pretty easy but then it took me forever to get spin or stab the poster in the chest
Carlos-Sigma-Phi-Junpei-Delta-Diana-Sean-Eric Akane-Mira
>>343887773
Za Warudo!
>>343910532
It had some QUALITY DESPAIR at the end, but for a character-driven game, I sure didn't care about anyone.
>>343911281
The PW series as a whole is meant to be lighthearted, and the fanservice isn't like "hey this is a serious moment, but let's arrange the composition so you focus on this woman's tits." And for the most part, the mood isn't ruined by quips.I hate how edgy AA5 was, though. And how the AJ trilogy had to ruin Phoenix's life to put him in there.
>>343910681
Wait, fuck. I didn't realise it was Eric's mom she killed.
And then even though she turns herself in she still marries him? I suppose the one ok thing is that Eric, Mira, and Sean are going to use the transporter to stop the snail incident, but aside from fixing that one timeline, Mira is too fucking unhinged to deserve any form of a happy ending
>>343899994
Delta > Carlos > Sigma > Junpei > Diana > Phi > Sean > Eric > Akane > Mira
Sad that Phi got the shaft in this one.
