any guess as to what happened between 999 and ZTD that made him so moody?
THEY WERE TRADING ORGANS LIKE COOKIES
i felt like the transition from 999 Junpei to ZTD Junpei was fairly natural. Even from 999, you can see that Junpei is willing to fuck people over just so he can hang out with Akane (i.e. essentially trapping a bunch of people by going through door 3)
Yeah, I think the explicit explanation given by the character himself in ZTD might have given me enough material to sketch down a theory.
I always wondered what Junpei and Sigma studied. Carlos was a nice welcoming change of protags when they at least explained what he does for a living.
>mfw having to slog through Q fragments
I just don't give a fuck about them.
>>343865382
I cleared as much Q Team fragments as possible first since I knew the other 2 would be way better
>>343865382
Q had the best puzzles
Huh, the biolab wasn't as bad as I thought. The only part that got me was with the ring thing.
>>343864957
Hardboiled detective adventures with people dying all the time and the trauma from 999 since he remembers his deaths in other timelines?
That and a silly buddy cop adventure where he did more against FtS than Akane and Sigma did with their 45 year convoluted plan that involved timetravel.
Really, who knew that all this time they just had to put Junpei and Seven on the job.
>>343865576
Fuck Biolab, but I hate the Rec room, Reactor, and Healing room more so I agree.
>>343865686
Are you pitching ZE4 to us?
>>343865201
Junpei quit school, and isn't Sigma a mechanic?
>>343865382
Sean carries Q team.
>>343865680
i got stuck in the biolab for like 20 minutes because I didn't know you had to put the tray into the microwave
maybe i'm just retarded, but i had no idea either of those items were even related
>>343865768
Nah, Sigma was a college student. He mentioned something about having a Buddhist professor in VLR.
>>343865060
And we don't know how he was outside of 999. Maybe he was already depressed and felt hollow.
999 and cookie organs was too much and he broke down.
>>343865739
ZE4 is about Delta in the original Nonary game in the Titanic anon, I am just proposing a spin off detective game with Seven and Junpei.
>>343865717
All of those were easier than Biolab. In fact, I'd argue the only bullshit puzzles are Transporter and that fucking lazer puzzle for the nuclear reactor
>>343865768
no, sigma is a college student (he just dresses funny).
the 22 year old version of him is kidnapped while he's submitting at paper and he mentions he's working on his phD
>>343865768
Sigma was still studying(working on his doctorate) when he was kidnapped. Anyways it doesn't really matter what he was studying because he became a master of genetics, computer programming, biology, and multiple engineering fields in 45 years he would've been successful no matter what
Space Dandy is a SHIFTER and a member of FtS?
>>343865868
>Transporter puzzle
Maybe it's because I'm naturally good at maths, but I didn't find it that hard.Although I got stuck with inputting the start code because I didn't think touching the core opened the input console and I kept trying to input the code on the pentagonal display.
>>343866267
i didnt even use much maths to figure out the transporter puzzle
i just played the card game a few times and wrote down which symbols were greater than other symbols. once you figure out about 4 or 5 of them, the rest falls into place because prime numbers and shit
It was the snails
It's always the snails
>>343865868
Transporter isn't bullshit, it's just tedious picking up and using cards.
The lazer puzzle in Reactor is why I mentioned it.
Biolab isn't even difficult really. It's just as >>343865769 mentioned, where there wasn't really an indication as to why a centrifuge cover had to irradiated.
>>343866267
I didnt think to touch the core. There's a lot of dumb shit that just stopped me in my tracks in the puzzle rooms. Like the lid with glow in the dark letters in the locker room. I was just amused at Diana and Sigma's dialogue entering the shower room together.
>murderous serial killer gets away with everything
When did this game become Danganronpa
>>343865768
Who the fuck is Sean?
>>343866160
Dandy needed a waifu planet's energy to even SHIFT to another timeline. He's more of a quantum being than a SHIFTer.
>>343866614
No one.
>>343866267
>>343866557
Fair enough, I just had no trouble with Biolab because I have an habit of using every item on everything, which is probably why I also fucking hated Transporter
>>343866614
He really should've been a young version of left but for some reason they wrote some random kid into Brother's backstory instead of going with the established character
>>343866679
Transporter was easy once you read the book and got an idea of the images being numbers in a base 13 system, after that is just thinking of how it could work and how the multiplications worked.
>>343866679
I was stuck in the biolab because I forgot to check the colored cells with the microscope. I felt like an idiot.
Biolab was probably the easiest puzzle for me, I don't understand how anyone had any problems with it.
>do Manufacturing on 3DS when .cia came out
>get stuck because I can't input the timer no matter where I touch the bomb
>get the game on Steam
>find the spot in like 5 seconds because it was a huge spot in 1080p but a small bunch of pixels on 3DS
I felt irritated.
>>343866896
Same like lasers for me. I solved it in 10 minutes with a bit of trial and error. I was also stuck in the manufacturing room because I didn't know you have to press the grey button very precisely to set the timer.
Fucking stupid.
>>343865861
>ZE4 is about Delta in the original Nonary game in the Titanic anon
you're going places, man. i like it.
>>343866990
>I was also stuck in the manufacturing room because I didn't know you have to press the grey button very precisely to set the timer
Fuck that, that should have been fixed it playtesting, that was just so stupid
Beat the game today. Can't help but feel slightly disappointed by the ending. On a different note, anyone have that snail picture with "life is simply unfair" on it?
![original[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6glOAEK.jpg "original[1].jpg")
I never played 999 and prob never will due to work. Would someone spoil who zero was and why he did it all?
So why did Delta kill Mira? and of all of things by strangling her.
When I saw the marks I always had the feeling that Eric did it, since his dad killed his brother in a similar way, and he also strangled Sean a few times.
I just finished the game and Zero twist was fucking bullshit
I mean
Sudden out of NO FUCKING WHERE
THERE'S SOMEONE FOLLOWING YOU
was he invisible or something?
fuck
there's so many wrong things at this
>>343866957
>>343866990
>>343867142
I actually liked that room a lot, although the game over stuff could have been done better, and also due toBetty. Never ran into that issue on the 3ds, but it sounds like shit since I had similar issues with the healing room.
>>343867156
This one?
>>343865861
>spin off detective game with Seven and Junpei
What the fuck happened with that? Akane and Sigma had to waste countless lives and a lot of years and achieved nothing, but Junpei and Seven went like cop buddies and blown up half the organization in just a day.
>>343867253
Zero from what game? 999 or ZTD?
>>343867364
Mind hacks
>>343867253
it wasAkane
>>343867392
This tbfh. It's fucking embarrassing.
>>343867364
He's with Q Team. He isn't actually around for C or D Team and only views/mind hacks them through cameras, and on the timelines where he's dead he watches them through the quantum computer.
Everyone knows about him but not about Sean, whenever any of the other teams talk about Q they're referring to him.
>>343867392
akane and sigma need to work in the bigger picture, anon.
>>343867364
>>343867364
You were always watching the game either from his perspective or from the cameras in the shelter that he could see through his HUD glasses (basically they are the same kind as those you build in the control room). There is actually quite a bit of foreshadowing about him, an anon posted a list yesterday.
I think people would have liked the twist more if his character was fleshed out better.
>>343867483
Delta pls leave
Only puzzle that got me where the shift 7 down in the library. I thought the numbers had to be shifted down so the 05 / 03 went 98 / 96.
When I tried the reverse I also reversed the letter and it fucked my results too.
But all of that was my own fault. The puzzles in general for ZTD were the worst of the trilogy by far and A LOT of puzzles had solutions like "go input what is in this card there in a different way" instead of actually solving shit in a clever way. I see complains here about the laser puzzle in the reactor room but that sort of shit was the good stuff, made you think, even if just a little.
>>343867627
I get a motive so complex.
>>343867254
Mira killed innocent people so she must be punished according to Delta. Why he didn't do it in other timelines or why he chose to strangle her can be chalked up tocomples motives.
>>343867707
>if his character was fleshed out better.
yep, but sadly SC cares more about Danganronpa
>>343867730
>I thought the numbers had to be shifted down so the 05 / 03 went 98 / 96
Thank god I wasn't the only one who thought this. Felt like an idiot when I realized what I was supposed to be doing instead.
>>343867458
>999
Yes what was the point of that game?
>>343867882
to save akane.
>>343864957
he had such big eyes before... now they are narrow
>>343867882
To save Akane by creating a bootstrap paradox
>>343866267
Fuck I had the exact same problem. I breezed through it and found the input code easily but had to look up a guide to find out I needed to touch the stupid core
>>343867627
Ive got a complex, and it's for my sister
>>343867981
Well, he IS japanese, after all.
>>343867582
>book room
>"hey, I'm going to shoot that glass in there, everybody get on the second floor except that old guy, but fuck that old guy"
>Mira dies
>"i'm going to kill everyone so I can get the real killer, but not this old guy, fuck him"
>radical 6 room
>"there's 3 virus things here, so we got to inject them right? but not on that old guy, fuck him"
>Mira goes savage on everyone
>"I'm killing everyone just because, but not that old guy, fuck him"
>sudden the old dude is zero
>"holy shit we had no idea"
>>343868095
Yeah what the fuck was up with that? It was so poorly handled.
>>343867483
THE MADMAN
>>343868095
>"i'm going to kill everyone so I can get the real killer, but not this old guy, fuck him"
Eric actually fires an extra shot for Q.
>"there's 3 virus things here, so we got to inject them right? but not on that old guy, fuck him"
Q didn't do the fingerprint thing in the first place.
I don't really like the twist, but those two are actually handled.
>>343868095
>Mira dies
>"i'm going to kill everyone so I can get the real killer, but not this old guy, fuck him"
You actually hear four gunshots when he kills Sigma, Diana and Sean, so he killed Q too.
>>343868095
He wasn't just 'that old guy', in the 5 days they spent with him at dcom he was established as being totally incapable of interacting with anyone around him. No one had any idea that dcom was basically being run by free the soul so they had no reason to question that. On top of that, Mira was working for him to begin with, Eric does kill Delta in that scene, and there were only three finger pricking things. It's pretty consistent on these notes.
>Akane ask everyone in C-team to kill themselfes
>ok, sure
>Junpei ask for two of them to kill themselfes
>"Holy shit junpei, fucking no, what's wrong with you"
>>343869147
>themselfes
>>343865382
Mira and Eric were awful, the ending where they're dead is canon in my head
>>343868095
Copypasted from Reddit since I don't have the picture anon made:Clues that Q is Delta, the 10th participant:
1) Literal shadows from Delta in most Q team scenes (here are the shadows from Pop-off, for example).
2) "The old man in the wheel chair" dialogue
3) If you try to select "Q" in the "who to shoot" scene, it will say to select Q's real name. If you input "Sean," it will give an error. If you choose "me" or "myself," the game will say "you cannot commit suicide." - Credit for expanding this goes to overchargext
4) If you say that "Q" killed Mira, Eirc will say "that's impossible!," and if you select "Sean," or "me," he'll say "I knew it was you!" - credit for expanding this goes to Ro9ge
5) "The truth is invisible" anagram
6) The parasite discussion
7) Carlos/Diana not knowing why they pressed the decontamination button, or the bad execution choice (mindhacking). Sean never claimed he didn't do it, as he can't be mindhacked.
8) The anagram about the 10 that Akane finds
9) The scene after the radical 6 is chosen to not be injected where Eric talks to Gab and calls him "Old man," he is actually talking to Delta. Both Eric and Mira are looking to the screen (to Delta), and Sean asks if they could speak. - Credit goes to untuned of the Something Awful Forum, and to Ro9ge for elaborating.
10) Q never has a portrait in the status screen, but there is one of Sean inside the Study - Credit goes to YoshiOfYellow of the Something Awful Forum
>>343869469
Eric really makes you forget that he has a legitimately shitty backstory really fucking quickly. Being little more than a loud asshole that waves around a gun for the most important parts of the game doesn't help.
>>34386963611) "Even Q ... he couldn't see or hear when" (when talking about Q team execution) - Credit goes to voltcatfish of the Something Awful forums)
12) Sean in Pop-off says "you are all really important to me" rather than "you both are really important to me," despite the fact he only knows Q team.
13) When Zero tells Sean about the "old man" who visited him.
14) Eric says "I know the leader's supposed to decide who to vote for but...", because Delta is believed to be blind and deaf - Credit goes to Ro9ge
15) Eric is suspicious of Sean because he isn't on the X-passes - Credit goes to Ro9ge
16) If you try to shoot Mira, she will shoot twice before the X-pass notification comes on, because she also shoots Delta - Credit goes to Ro9ge
17) Despite the fact that Carlos seems to know Q, he doesn't recognize the robot that looks like Sean - Credit goes to zatchel1
18) Towards the end of the C-team ending, when listening to the recording of Zero, Zero specifically says that he's dead in this timeline, and that Carlos executed him. This is also the timeline in which all of Q-team dies because Carlos decided to execute Q team. - Credit goes to Ro9ge
19) After Phi and Delta and delta are born, the status screen shows Q and Phi alive. Status before birth and status after birth - Credit goes to YouWithTheFace
20) Decision game starts with "deci," which means ten - Credit goes to ultramario1998.
21) When Sean decides to stay behind after pressing the Decontamination button, he is staying behind for Q, and it becomes clear with close examination that Q is also chained, and Q is the one staying behind. Sean is looking at the Camera (at Delta) when he says that he stayed behind because of him. And when they try to unchain Q, they are always trying to get it off the pole, and not off Gab's paw. Here is an image that demonstrates this.. - Credit goes to Ro0ge, and BloodTrain for the image.
>>343869690
it's mostly in the beginning he just radically changes at the drop of a hat.
I can understand panicking but he literally goes from explaining his tragic backstory to trying to strangle the child he was telling it to in a heartbeat
>>343869731
>After Phi and Delta and delta are born, the status screen shows Q and Phi alive. Status before birth and status after birth
fuck, some of these details are solid
They really should've prioritized actually finishing the game before a lot of this stuff, though
So didBlick Winkelend up in the game after all?
>>343869972
Did you play it?So yes
>>343864957
Junpei and Akane are assholes now
>>343869731
>Decision game starts with deci which means ten
Fuck me
>>343870071
Maybe they're exactly the same and Carlos is just so pure that they look like assholes.
>>343869936
but they did anon
>>343866604
But who's dead nyucka, who is dead
So apparently I don't have all quest files after finishing the game. I didn't think there'd be any missable ones but if there are please tell me
Carlos is best character
Eric is worst
I would let Mira strangle me with a chain while she rides me
That is all
>>343870224
the dozens of people she killed over the course of 17 years?
>>343870242
you probably missed the first card in Control, it's behind a speaker on the wall over by the green and red cylinders you have to spin
![2413606-ev_et01a_3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MIPn4tN.jpg "2413606-ev_et01a_3[1].jpg")
So what exactly was the point of hiding Q from the player? Every single participant new about him.
In VLR Sigma's twist was hidden because he didn't know about it and we were playing through him. In Ever17 it was necessary for the twist to be hidden from the player for story reasons.
But I can't think of any reason for Q being hidden, besides just for the sake of having a twist.
>>343870326
Nope, found that one. Anything else?
>>343870505
Have you tried sorting the files by room first?
That will probably narrow down the possibilities.
Being married to Akane must be hell
>Lose car keys
>Ah this reminds me of that one philosophical dilemma I once read about in Wikipedia
>>343870603
forgot that was a feature, it's between Healing an Manufacturing. Any idea which it's in?
>>343870318
Oh shit, for some reason I thought you meant Delta. The epilogue files suggest that Eric and Mira go back in time to convince young Mira to not murder anyone somehow
>>343870605
>once you dropped your keys, they could have bounced in any direction, your keys splintered off into multiple par-
>found em
>>343870046
Clever.
>>343870414
We see the whole game from his perspective and we're not supposed to know that there's a 10th participant like everyone outside of Q Team.
>>343870801
It's probably Manufacturing, but lemme check real fast.
>>343870801
Incinerator, maybe? open that one toolbox in the cabinet next to the goggles.
Reminder that Delta at least played in the first nonary games, if he himself was not Lord Gordain.
>>343870801
>>343871129
Apparently it's actually in the Trash Disposal, in the toolbox you're supposed to give to Phi.
I just forgot about it since they said the fucking gas mask was too big to fit in the chute but somehow the fucking toolbox isn't
>>343871219
seriously, why the fuck is this even a thing, especially a missable one?
Why would you not instantly think blowtorch and thermometer do something, let alone thing to send a big fucking toolbox through first to even get this hint at all?
>>343864957
should i get this game and does then ending end good
>>343870071
I don't know why, but I think Akane and Junpei would make good shitposters on 4chan.
>>343870292
Eric is a good character though. Unlikable =/= bad.
The worst one is probably Mira.
>>343871560
If you haven't played 999/VLR, don't bother.
>>343871560
It ends good. If you've heard the haters complaining, your expectations will be lowered and you may be pleasantly surprised. It isn't absolutely amazing, but it is worth it.
>>343871816
>Akane and Junpei
together?
VLR>ZTD>999
>>343871989
Theygot married.
Was Kyle in Gab's body all along?
>Sigma took Kyle back in time with him, somehow
>Was smart enough to deliver the antidote to D-team exactly when they needed it
>Sigma was unusually extremely affectionate towards Gab in the stranded pair ending, even though he said he didn't believe in unconditional love at first
>Delta shooting Gab at the end and calling it a 'good thing' = putting Kyle in enough danger to allow him to SHIFT out of the body and back into his own time
>>343871560
Sure. It's practically standalone and you won't be too disappointed if this is the only entry you play.
>>343872009
VLR>999>>>>>>>ZTD
999 had 8 participants
VLR had 9 participants
ZTD had 10 participants
>>343872167
the chute was only one way, the file says the only thing in it is a spot with a rug he naps on
>>343872167
Kyle was not present in Zero Kyle Dilemma.
>>343872009
>Seven
>Mediocre
>>343872009
Sven is bro tier, you asshole.
>>343872264
ayy
>>343872167
>>Was smart enough to deliver the antidote to D-team exactly when they needed it
he delivered it hours later
>>343872009
>ZTD Phi
>top tier
>All she did was die
Please get rid of your waifu shilling
>Mediocre tier has Santa, Snake, Seven and 999 Akane
What is this shit. Where is the loveable and cool tier list, or whatever that one says
>>343872167
also, how does that dog works?
>Zero kills him and say "He didn't had much time left, he's already old" or something
>At the twins ending somehow this fucker survive 11 more months
>>343872298
>>343872376
Nah, he doesn't have much depth as a character, nor is he fun/interesting enough. He is just a one note, bottom of the barrel character.
>>343872698
Delta's just an asshole.
>>343872678
she also jumpkicked her brother in the face
hell the glasses alone make her better
>>343872678
Yep, but she got that ass tho
>>343872009
>9th man in shit tier. Not Alice and her gf Clover.
kys
>>343872869
>>343872865
>that ass makes her funyinrunpa tier
>Absurdly implausible jump makes her good
She's good, but not that good. The glasses are nice though
And I think that mod ruins her ass, not improves it.
>>343865514
Are you me? I did as much of Q as possible, then C and finally D because they were the team I cared about.
>>343872865
She gets a pass for that bullshit in VLR because muh gravity and 1/6 reaction time, but not in ZTD. Fuck off.
>>343873035
Yeah, sadly the ligthning makes everything shiny'n shit.
It's better when the camera moves tho
So was anyone not-so-secretly hoping for pic related once Zero mentioned he was Brother?
I know it wouldn't work since they don't know him but it still would have been entertaining
>>343873165
Not to mention the fact it's a completely different shade of skin
>>343873035
>Mad banter and sexual tension with her father
>Hot and cute at the same time
>Intelligent and a good person
>Not funyarinpa tier
memo pad is shit, it's ridiculous i have to play with pen and paper
>>343870414
For one, it hides a bald, "blind" and "deaf" man with creepy sunglasses who couldn't verbally defend himself from immediate suspicion from the player. It also doesn't make a lot of plot sense for the other players to defend him outside of cursory observations, since they've only known him for a few days.
Additionally, because the whole game is from his perspective (either directly through his eyes, or through the camera feeds in his glasses), it gives a convenient cover as to why we would never really see him.
When I first had the twist revealed I was kind of pissed off at how stupid it was until I thought about it a bit more, but I wouldn't say it was perfect or that his motives were particularly complex.
>>343873279
Nope nope, I've used the same color as the rest. Just the lightning that's weird.
I tried changing the normal map to correct that but it's still too stronk4me.
What do you do when there are no new fragments that pop up for each any of the teams? I've already voted both ways for each team, and only Team Q has been executed in my global flowchart. There are several paths that are locked because I lack info. Am I supposed to replay fragments for something I might have missed?
>>343873347
>sigma being her father retcons any possible romance
quick, claim your waifu beforetoo late I already did
>>343873549
rig the votes and get all the teams executed
>>343873549
Keep voting. The outcome is entirely random
Keep at it till you get the bomb collar cutscene for each side
>>343873580
I claimredheadglasses phi.
>>343873549
you can replay the fragments, you have to pick the correct votes to see each execution, although I'm not sure it matters if you actually see them or not. You're probably just missing something else.
>>343870059
Stop punishing Sigma
>>343873580
You can't retcon something that never existed.
>>343873347
>Appears in a quarter of the fragments
>Dead in the rest
>'But it could secretly be a poison, not a cure'
>Absurdly implausible jump kick
>Imagine how Diana would feel if she shot you - then yells at her if it happens
>Twist with her and Delta does absolutely jack shit for her character
>Jokes and sass are toned down from VLR
>Jump kick still makes no sense
>All your things describe why she is hot not why she is funyarinpa tier
>Sexual tension with father is toned down compared to VLR
>funyarinpa tier
ZTD Phi shilling is the worst cancer in these threads. Just because she was good in VLR doesn't mean she is here
>>343873598
I've been trying that but I get booted back to the flowchart each time I retry a vote. Do I have to vote for all three teams again to get a curscene or is it just rng?
>>343873580
I claim megane Phi.
>>343873736
you know someone thought of it when they hug in the one end, before the gramps reveal anyway
you never know, young sigma is pretty jacked, I'm sure she's thought of it.
>>343873774
Yes. Vote all three
>>343868021
no joke it took me about 25 minutes after getting the knife and the poster in the projection room cant rmb what it was called because i didn't understand why they wouldn't knife the poster so I guessed I was missing something
>>343872698
10 months with carefully rationed food, I bet Gab could've lived to 20
>>343873580
Phi-sama is mine
>>343873774
you have to do them consecutively, repeating if necessary
I.E. do both C votes in a row to see C die, do both Q votes in a row to see Q die, etc.
>>343873748
t.Akanecuck.
>>343872678
most 999 characters are boring/useless
Honestly don't know what the fuck people like about them
>>343873580
I claim999 Akane. I'd let her capture me and help prevent her from dying anytime
>>343873580
ZTD Phi hits so much of my buttons that it's actually scary
>glasses
>short hair
>slim body
>high-waisted shorts
>legs for days
If only she had shown off her feet and her armpits in a couple of scenes then this game would have been 10/10
>>343873580
>not claiming baby Phi
>>343873961
The fact that there was more to them then initially appeared gave them depth that not all the newer characters have
>>343873960
Nah bruh. I like Phi, but she was underused in this game, just admit it. Still better than crazy Akane though
>>343874109
Underused? Yes.
Still the best waifu for laifu.
Phi is love, Phi is live.
>>343873961
Literally every character in the game served a purpose. You may find them boring, but none were useless
>>343867364Sharin no kunidid it right.
>>343873983
her body is a temple, practically flawless save forred eyebrows
>>343874192
Best waifu does not equal funyarinpa tier though.Phi IS love. Phi IS life.We need more Phi.
>mfw I bought the entire Zero Escape trilogy and it's arriving tomorrow
I expect great things
Don't let me down /v/
>>343874319
It's going to let you down.
Question: what was with all the fans that were all hot for the Blick Wickel/??? stuff? Even now people say that it's one of the big loose threads never touched on in ZTD.
Uchi even said something that made that "???" moment in VLR more like a novelty, a cute teaser for the next game, than anything important. Am I missing something here?
>>343874196
What the fuck did Clover do? She was Snake's luggage who did fucking nothing except go missing half the game and get shot in one bad ending.
Lotus helped in this one puzzle room, I guess?
And Santa did fuck all until the last 10 minutes. Wow.
>>343874319
leave before you get spoiled m8
>>343874395
she butchered Junpei with a fireaxe
>>343874319
In that case, make sure you understand each game is mostly it's own thing. Don't expect every single thing to be definitely, exhaustively, explained and you'll adore it.
>>343874319
Get ready for disappointment
>>343874457
>Don't expect every single thing to be definitely, exhaustively, explained and you'll adore it.
Why would you set him up like that anon
>>343874457
>each game is mostly it's own thing
So the stories aren't really connected? Or is it like a Saw kind of thing with recurring characters?
>>343874319
Anon, just make sure you go on a proper blackout or you'll be spoiled to hell and back.
Keep in mind that the third one, ZTD, in particular may be a huge disappointment. Go into it expecting none of your questions will be answered.
>all these people claiming to love Phi when they didn't even take any screenshots of their waifu
>>343874319
Prepare for disappointment when you get to ZTD.
>>343874390
What are you even asking exactly?
>>343873580
Claimed. I want him to see me the way he sees Mira, and I want to hold him when he cries
>>343874534
They are connected. There is definitely a big plot that follows through all the games. But some games have elements you may expect to be picked up again but were more red herrings. Saw is a good example. But it is one big plot, but each game is also its own thing
>>343874607
the models look pretty bad to be honest, she looks better in 2D
>>343874698
VLR models were mediocre though.
ZTD models are great, the problem is the shitty graphics.
>>343874390
>still pushing the "it was just a teaser" meme
Accept Uchikoshi fucked up and stop licking his balls, please.
>>343874769
it was less noticeable on the small screens, when those PC versions come along they'll look really bad
>>343873580
DIANA IS MY ANGEL
>>343866831
I got stuck there because I couldn't tap on the fucking sink to examine it further, same for the centrifuge manual
>>343874682
It may not be immediately apparent how each game links, but it will make sense by the end of each one. Now get out of here before you get spoiled.Seriously. This could've said that in 999no spoiler for youis Zero and spoiled everything
>>343871026
>>343873540
I understand reasons behind the twist but I just don't think there's any justification for it. The other teams didn't know there were 10 people in total but so what? If they knew about Sean it wouldn't have made any difference, and they already knew about the old man.
When Delta was revealed the only person surprised at his existence was the player, which is what made it feel cheap.
>>343874974
But that's because they were surprised at Sean. We were surprised Sean wasn't Q. It plays on the idea that the player knows everything, which makes it good.
>>343866957
Stuck in the fucking control room because I couldn't see the S in SW, shitty 3DS screen. I swapped to PC then and there.
>>343875345
Is that official art? It's gorgeous.
>>343875345
>the biggest slut was dressed the least slutty
bravo uchi
>>343875345
>sleep with me?~
ZTD ruined 999 and VLR in retrospective.
Also the whole "lol we'll just shift and cheat death" just made everything worse.
>>343875498Poor Diana though. Clearly her old hubby ruined her.
>>343875586
ZTD already ruined 999, but ZTD shat on those two.
>>343875586
I will never get this
>ruined in retrospective
meme
It's Star Wars fans complaining about the prequels all over again.
>>343874974
>When Delta was revealed the only person surprised at his existence was the player
Right, we know about Sean, they know about Delta. For us the surprise 10th participant is Delta, for them it's Sean. It would be way more symbolic if Sean was Left instead like he really should've been.
>diana and sigma not only kiss but have sex on screen
>junpei and akane only get a ring scene
WHY
>>343875586
999 was the only good game
>>343875345
I claimed her alreadybut i'm a fair man, we can share
>>343875732
I thought after the reveal everyone just starts calling him Sean as if they were from the beginning.
There's a note that even says they knew his name was Sean the entire time and never called him anything else.
>>343874780
...Licking his balls? What?
I brought it up because I want to understand why so many of you care about it so much. It has been a while since I played VLR, and what I remember of Blick was just a tiny little cameo at the very end.
I just mentioned what Uchi said because of all the promises he made and fucked up with, Blick wasn't one of them.
>>343875764
No need to be all edgy and hardcore there, VLR was a damn good game.
>>343875663
Where is you don't have the balls
>>343875117
>>343875732
Sure the twist was well done and nobody saw it coming, but it was still pointless in the overall plot.
Like I said, it wouldn't have made any difference if the other teams knew about Sean from the beginning, and it makes no difference to Delta's plans if the player knows he is there.
>>343875936
Only Q Team knows that Sean exists until the end.
>>343875862
I'll be Sigma, you can beher first husband
>>343875961
Don't have it unfortunately. I just nabbed that webm from some anon here.
>>343875946
>teased players with something in the end of VLR
>didn't explain what was that about at all
People are understandably upset.
>>343875946
Because ? (you) the player was teased to play a big role in the 3rd game, and I'm talking about in-game shit, not just "lol your role is playing the game"
It was the same deal with Kyle
>>343875979
The problem with the twist was that I legitimately thought I missed something and went back to make sure I didn't
I'm happy we at least have a third game to be disappointed about.
>>343874319
tips:
>999
>look up a no-spoilers walkthrough and get ready to get bored to death from reading the same test 999 times because you chose to buy it instead of emulate it
>vlr
>you're alright, but get ready to BEEP BEEP BEEP, don't save in puzzle rooms if you bought the 3DS versions
>ztd
>let timers run out and do every decision
>>343876124
I'm not.
I'm disappointed in the game, AND I'm disappointed in the obscene amount of obligatory shitposting apologists that have arisen due to this. I don't need more disappointment in my life.
>>343876124
I'd be more happy if we there wasn't a game to be disappointed about. I mean, yeah there are some polarizing opinions on which one is better VLR or 999, but it's mostly because they're both so good. So far people's opinion of ZTD are universal in it being sub par to the whole series.
>>343875663
This scene gave me weird feelings.
>>343876102
How do you know he's not? He could be literally any character at any point of the game and you wouldn't know unless it was stated.
>>343876102
>that feel when we changed history and caused ZTD
>that feel when we fucked up
we have to go back
>>343876487
Depends on the thread (and probably time of day). I've been in threads where I'm told that I'm the only one who dislikes the game and the general consensus is that the game is a great conclusion.
I wonder if ZTD would've turned out great if they made the game after porting 999 & VLR to other platforms.
>>343876586
Apologists exist everywhere. Also denial.
>due to increased popularity expected some actual porn of Phi taking in Sigmas 18 incher
Sadly due to retarded plot reasons I don't expect any now. Phi looked really cute
>>343876638
Why the fuck would this change anything ? Are you talking about the sales ?
>>343876731
there was a thread on /aco/ and some drawfag drew that, mabye it's still up
>>343876727
I know. It's just frustrating, anon. Especially when I've half-heartedly followed the series for what, seven years or so, only to be told that I need to accept the game as being absolutely perfect and flawless. I hate kids, man.
>>343876568
If you need a Q&A to answer unresolved shit in the game, you're not a good writer.
I bet he'll pull shit out of his ass and say
>UHHHHHHHH THE PLAYER WAS KYLE
And drones here will be OOOOH 2DEEP4U
>>343876754
No, I mean they would have more money to make the game better.
>>343876092
>>343876102
These are good answers, thanks guys.
I'm still more pissed at the stuff that had more build-up than "?" (like Kyle), but I do see the problem here now. I get the strong impression that he dumped the idea a lot sooner than the other ones he had for ZTD, which explains why he brushed it off and claimed it was a teaser rather than make a false promise to include it in the next game.
>>343876808
I got so burned out by game being this shitty I don't feel like being frustrated over people who can't keep up with reality. I like Uchi just as the other guy, but he fucked up with ZTD. I'm willing to keep supporting him because fuck ups happen, but 'licking balls' isn't going to help here If I want to see a good game out of him again.
Besides the whole alien technology thing, I think my biggest disappointment about ZTD was how limited the character interactions were. I was worried ever since they revealed everyone would be restricted to teams.
A lot enjoyment I got out of the other 2 games was seeing how all the characters interacted and clashed and I felt the game was really lacking due to that restriction. I understand why Uchi did it that way, but I would've loved to see the whole cast interact more than the little we see in the true ending parts.
>>343876852
>>343876754
They should've first ported 999 and VLR gain money from the sales and the make ZTD
>>343876808
it will only get worse the more time passes and the more the opinions get poralized, also people that didn't really like it will move on leaving behind only the ones that loved it which will dismiss most criticism as memes or shitposting.
that's what happens in pretty much every general or continous thread too
>>343876985
I agree with you. I've been posting my disappointment since day one of finishing the game. Enabling his behavior is only going to create more ZTDs.
>>343877028
Sure although I can't see myself frequenting these threads for such a long time. Plus, as with all new games, new threads will eventually lessen in frequency.
Game is so easy as fuck, and then you get that fucking transporter math puzzle.
I don't know, maybe it's because I forgot math, maybe I got retarded over the years, but I had to look up solution.
>>343877028
Jesus christ can you people be more butthurt? So some people like the game, what's it to ya?
By the way we dismissed the one guy shitting on the game in the other thread because he wasn't giving actual criticisms. He didn't even say anything about the game so naturally he got "this is bait" responses.
Fuck off with your
>I AM THE BETTER ONE AT POSTING IN AN ANONYMOUS FROG RACING SCOREBOARD WEBSITE
attitude
>>343872009
>alice
>not in worse than ass aids tier
Fuck you
>>343876727
>>343876808
>only to be told that I need to accept the game as being absolutely perfect and flawless
Hmm, I've been hanging around these threads since I finished it the day after it's release and I don't think I've seen anyone call it perfect.
From what I see people universally agree the ending was at most sub-par and the game could clearly be improved in all fronts had it not been for budget issues.
It's not a matter of denial if one clearly enjoyed the game but are willing to accept that it could've been better.
>>343873549
Every team needs two votes to die. Just picking the other path to watch the cutscene doesn't mean they died.
If you want to kill D Team go to C and Q and vote for them, the game remembers your last choice
>>343877131
Question: how are you guys giving him constructive criticism? It's difficult to see how exactly the dissent will reach him.
Just finished the game. Love the attention to the music even if Blue bird lamentation was a tad bit used too much imo. Shed doesn't have the impact she did in VLR but oh well.I feel complete.
>>343873580
I remember before ZE3 announcement and people theorising Sigma and Phi's true relationship
And everyone calling them dumbasses ,not possible yada yada
>>343877226
thanks for proving my point? I didn't even say if I liked the game or not but you already assume I am butthurt and stuff like that
and instantly lash out in anger to people that have a different opinion, if anything calm down your attitude and accept that some people didn't like it
>>343876989
I almost agree, but I was thinking about it earlier, and as you probably have also realised, it just gets too messy with 9 people interacting all the time. It was one of the problems with the previous games, really; establishing "NUH U MITE B DA BADDY" over and over got tiresome, and the only times anything could actually happen was when they split up. It was always more interesting splitting them into DIFFERENT groups each time though.
Really, I think ZTD is a "take what you got because you're lucky it happened at all" kind of a thing. A shame, but... y'know. Everyone's said it already, ZTD wasn't bad, and some of the highlights - Carlos' Bizarre Adventure, for one, and the hope of two ending for another - were fantastic. But it really isn't as great as it should have been, and we can entirely thank Danganronpa (a series I also like but for different reasons) for stealing the spotlight.
>>343877323
Lurk around more. I don't mean that as an insult but there is a shocking amount of posters who do believe that the game is great and wonderful for what it is, with little-to-no problems. And sadly, they seem to be the most vocal in dealing with dissenting opinions, displaying extreme childish behavior like throwing a tantrum or resorting to immediate personal attacks.The post two above yours is a great example.
I'm all for someone having an opinion but if your opinion has no support other than assumptions and name-calling then your opinion is empty.
>>343877457
>lashing out at you because you hate it
That's not at all what's happening you retard, but I understand that you have a broken reading comprehension based on how you're reacting to these threads.
I'm calling you out not because of your opinions of this game but because you're acting like an elitist for your posting habits on 4chan of all places.
>>343877432
Constructive criticism--no matter the medium--is wasted on children.
welp we're fucked
>>343877669
What would the benefits of an NDA for something like that be?
>>343877669
Why the fuck would be who owns an IP be part of a non-disclosure agreement? I mean that seriously
>>343877724
company not wanting backlash for hoarding IPs without the intention of ever letting them go again
>>343877598
look, I understand insulting people makes you feel a little better about yourself but if you had actually the capacity to read or understand you would have noticed that I only described a behavior that is common in many threads and anyone who spent some time here would know, now go on and keep accusing people of trying to act morally superior while being the one that actually try to show how superior he is for not taking posting here seriously
>>343877860
Stop responding to it.
