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Zero Time Dilemma


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Do you like the way Uchikoshi explores the concept of "family"?
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>My wife daughter.
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999 >>> VLR >>>>>> ZTD
Literally can't prove me wrong.
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>>343653894
halp. im lighting a cigarette that time
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>>343653896
Why does Sigma get all of the girls?
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oc donut steal
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I miss best girl

;_;
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YOU
DON'T
HAVE
THE
BALLS
COWARD
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Would you step on Gab if it ended the Decision Game?
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>>343654007
999 > VLR > ZTD

999 and VLR are pretty close too but no reason to put a thousand >'s like a tard, all games were very good
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>some one sold me the Dilemma background for about $3

nice

>>343653894
>>343654057

11/16/2029
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COMPLEX
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>>343654078
Look at his chest and arms
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>>343654103
*ugliest most disgusting girl
FTFY

>>343654057
16/11/2029
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>>343654103
at least yours was in this game
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If Akane, Sigma and Phi could shift, or jumo back to the past too, acording to VLR, why didn't they just jump back to DCOM the moment they found out who Brother was, and went HEY BLIND DEAF OLD MAN, YOU'RE BROTHER AREN'T YOU?

Or better yet, how come none of them suspected Q, the suspicious old man in the same age range from Brother, with a codename that comes from two specific endgame room from both 999 and VLR?

Even if Akane was actually working with brother all along, Phi and Sigma should've pointed fingers at him the moment they met.

Fuck, why does this game skim over what happened in DCOM? It was five fucking days. You mean to tell me these 9 people lived there for 9 days, and Akane and Junpei never had their talk?
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>>343653896
>Sigma railing Diana, Phi, and Luna with his 18 inch rod
Yeah I like it.
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>>343654078
6 pack and intelligence
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It was just a prank, bro
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>>343654414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zAU7tZnCcQ
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>>343654078
18 inch cock
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Does anyone have the sakurafish edit of sean?
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>>343654414
I don't get why they were mad at him when Akane and Junpei could have jumped to their older versions too and stop everything from happening too
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WATCH OUT /V/
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>>343654184
Who is this?
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>>343654742
You're 17 years too early
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>>343654775
The newscaster from the end of VLR.
in other words, best girl
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>>343654742
>select all images with snails
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>>343654742
The snail caused the events of ZTD, and thanks to ZTD humanity will be saved
Thanks Mr. Snail
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>>343654182
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>Little girl Akane told Jumpy that her dream was to get married
>He follows her to America a decade later just to marry her

Best boy.
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>>343653896
I just wanna know how they act towards each other now. They had the best relationship in the series so it better not have been fucked up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUeWk7XtdFw
opinions?
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>>343655009
They moved to the countryside and lived happily together raising Phi
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>>343654338
DCOM has to happen for Phi to be born

Also it's been a while since I played VLR but Didn't Akane lack the ability to shift, meaning that she had to do meticulous amounts of planning to ensure that she could manipulate Shifters into doing what she wanted?

Just giving everyone super powers lol RESONANCE kinda cheapens everything.
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>>343654078
dadbod
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>>343655053
>they ended it before Senary Game could start
now that's just a tease right there
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>>343655064
But Phi and Sigma are the same age.
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>>343655053
Vita and Steam, and I'll be a happy man.
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>>343655173
No they are not
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>>343655053
I hope they include a flowchart. 999 really needed a flowchart.
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>>343655053
If I buy this can I shift to a better ZTD?
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1000 hours in paint
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>>343655196
Sigma is 22 and Phi is what, 20?
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>>343655053
Seems kind of weird to use a CG still for the sample video. I'm most interested in how the character portraits and other graphics will be handled.
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>>343654504
>those shitty english dubs
holy shit
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>>343655196
>>343655329
In the payoff end young sigma does not come back
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>That ending
Please tell me that's not the true ending.
PLEASE FUCKING TELL ME THIS SERIES DOESN'T END ON A CLIFFHANGER OVER IF THEY KILL DELTA OR NOT

PLEASE TELL ME I MISSED SOMETHING
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I'm still shocked by this and how easy it is to miss.

ENDGAME SPOILER: Q's wheelchair shadow could always be seen in Q-Team.
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>>343655440
You missed the timeline in which the game is good.
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>>343655440
That's the true ending.
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is it time to panic over sales?
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>>343655440
I unlocked the 100% achievement on steam after that.

Is over, dawg.
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>>343655440
The last decision is yours. Does he kill him or not? Only you know.
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>>343654414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4N6GJBApdk
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>>343655440
The true ending is when diana presses the blue button
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>>343655440
It's the only decision in the game that is out of Delta's (your) control, so it makes sense for it to be a cliffhanger.
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>>343655440
you dumb fuck you didnt get a single thing
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>>343655053
>voiced 999 remaster
All is forgiven.
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>>343655597
DOUJINS
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>>343655440
There's some epilogue stuff in the files

nothing further on D family though, fuck sake
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>>343655597
lewd
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>>343655597
Now we're talking
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>>343655440
It doesn't matter whether that happens or not. Not really.

Go open the files again and read the endgame stuff.
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>>343654103
Slut.
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>>343655440
That's of no importance. ZTD didn't fix shit, it just managed to turn Carlos into a super shifter.
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>>343655440
Okay but way worse than that is how there is not even a semblance of resolution on the reason why this all HAPPENS AT ALL

the matters of the fucking terrorist are reduced to a "we're working on it" in the epilogue which is in the insulting form of codex entries
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>>343655510
>Niche game
>Third game in a series that are connected to one another
>Years between each installment

Regardless of how much of a passion thing it the game was, Uchi should have known better.
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How much longer before the Steam models are ripped for SFM?
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>>343654501
...To be honest, I was more moved by the 10 months scene. It was the most tragically stupid and endearing thing I've ever seen in a game.

>"If I had done that, then I wouldn't have met you guys..."
>"Fuck off Carlos, you had ONE JOB"
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>>343655476
You know that timeline where Eric got the survivors at gunpoint and shot Carlos?

When he asks Sean to name who killed Mira, if you don't know about Delta at the time and name someone wrongly, Eric kills everyone and himself.

But you can hear that he shot more people than were visible at the time, and you can see the blood of someone else at the edge of the screen, hinting that Delta was there.
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>>343655535
Why would he even hold up the gun and point it at Delta if he wasn't going to shoot him?
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>>343654839
At least we can stop Ever17 next year.
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>>343655752
>>343655510
It also sold terribly on PC but was pirated over 1.6 million times.
If there was no PC version people would be buying it, but because of PC everyone is just pirating.
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>>343655053
I never bought 999, so I'm probably buying this.
It's a good chance to replay it, since it's been over 3 years from my first playthrough.
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>>343655720
LEAVE BEST GIRL ALONE
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>>343655510
>game has been out for 4 days
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>>343655779
That's why the screen fades to black. He shot, and your POV is dead.
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>>343655895
I want to cum inside Clover
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>>343655053
How will handle the dual screen thing
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>>343655492
>>343655506
>>343655532
>>343655535
>>343655613

aaaaaaAAAAAAAAHHHHHHIt really is a cool stylistic choice and a cool way for the player to share their feelings with Delta about finally letting go but AAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>343655779
>just like one of my animes
Carlos is a dumb weeb.
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>>343655510
I blame Steam and the piratecuck community.
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>Diana and Sigma fucked
>Junpei proposed to Akane

Was this entire thing just Brother playing match maker?
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>>343655894
Nah, 3DS has CFW and there was a cia leak days before the street date.
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>>343655779
heh...nothing personnel kid
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>>343656068
I like the Japanese flag!
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>>343656146
Only 2% of 3DS owners pirate.
Over 90% of PC players pirate.
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>>343656130
Getting Diana and Sigma to do it was his primary motive.
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>>343656146
The CIA leaked the game?
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>>343655894
I probably would have waited before buying the game if there wasn't a PC version. I just don't use 3DS for much, so I would have been lazy to go and get the game for it.

Ah well.

Additionally, wasn't 999 pirated a lot, which sparked some of its success?
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>>343655510
There's really nothing to be bothered by. We were never getting a ZE4 to begin with--this is the end, regardless of sales...
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>>343656180
Where are you even these statistics
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>>343656180
>tfw I pirated it on 3DS and bought it on PC
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ZTD is better than VLR.

Everyone is bitching about how ZTD fails to resolve this and that plotline from VLR. Those aren't the sins of ZTD, they're problem with VLR and its absolute bullshit sequel bait ending. Everyone mad because Kyle was forgotten or Phi wasn't the magic x-factor she was hyped to be should hate VLR, not ZTD.

Not that ZTD doesn't have problems, but most failings with Zero Escape as a trilogy originate from VLR.
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Delta was basically that dude in the 500 billion button video that Uchikoshi posted.
He did something good for the world and you, but another (You) got royally fucked over it.
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>>343655779
The same reason he went back 10 months and didn't stop Delta.

Just because.
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Why was Carlos the leader. He and his personal story had nothing to do with anything, Junpei and Akane did most of C team's time travel work, and the password the C team's Force Quit Box was given to Junpei, not to Carlos.

It feels like you could remove Carlos and have just Junpei and Akane, and it would chance nothing.
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>>343655894
Pirate it on pc > shit sucks > don't buy it
Fuck you Uchi
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>>343655990
I want Clover to chop my hand off
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>>343656361
I enjoyed ZTD more than VLR because THE MODELS AND ANIMATIONS WERE INFINITELY BETTER THAN THAT SHIT SHOW OF VLR.
LIKE HOLY SHIT
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How did Carlos know about the family portrait when he wrote the note?
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>>343656385
You could remove Junpei, Eric, Mira and Sean as well
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>>343656361
The difference between VLR and ZTD is that VLR wasn't a finale; it wasn't it's job to resolve and tie up loose ends. It introduced things so that they would get resolved in the finale that was to come. VLR was never intended to be a finale and so that wasn't its job. ZTD didn't do its job.
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Does the fact that there are no escape sections in the last 8 hours of the game bother anyone else?
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>>343655720
Say that one more time and i'll put a snail in your path.
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>>343656474
He had a vision, with sigma and diana walking into the door.
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>>343656361
ZTD was just a big recycling of VLR, but worse. There wasn't anything that it did that VLR didn't do better.

Uchikoshi kept telling people that such-and-such would appear in ZTD, and none of it did. That's ZTD's problem.
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>>343656531
It all depends on how you played it. If you happened to do the fragments with the puzzles early on in the game instead of spreading them out, yeah I can see why that's disappointing. ZTD didn't have a final escape room, so.
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>>343656361
>Everyone mad because Kyle was forgotten or Phi wasn't the magic x-factor she was hyped to be should hate VLR, not ZTD.
Are you retarded?
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>>343655894
The only reason I bought it was because there was a pc version
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>>343656482
Not really. Junpei and Sean are important for the game and for the overall plot.

Mira is the deus ex for the "and then everyone was misteriously murdered" endings.

Eric was suffering.
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The question is:
WHO
THE
FUCK
WROTE
THAT "ANAGRAM" GABLETTER?
I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT SHIT IN ANY OF THE TIMELINES
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>>343656531
Yes, I was waiting for a Q room (was expecting to escape the computer room at some point) and it never happened. It just felt like they gave up halfway through. I'm not sure whether it's a good or bad thing though because I thought most of the escape rooms in ZTD weren't very good.
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"Dio" showed up in ZTD and he has been playing the game all along.
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>>343655510
They plan to re-release 999 over and over again to fund the series.
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>>343656361
The sequel failing to live up to the things introduced from the previous game is a problem with the sequel not the other way around.
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>>343656607
>There wasn't anything that it did that VLR didn't do better.
Arguably it's graphically better and let people get killed on screen.

That CGI rendering of all the dead bodies piled up on VLR is one of the goofiest things ever.
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>>343656531
I'm convinced at this point that Uchi wasted this game to test the market for an expanded series. There's too much left open or outright forgotten to call this a conclusion. He's trying to make ZE the next Walking Dead.
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>>343656715
How is Junpei important?
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>>343656718
gab
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>>343656531
Yup. I was sad there was no "final puzzle". Even the final decision wasn't great.
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>>343656802
>Arguably it's graphically better and let people get killed on screen.

so these are the kind of people that worship this game
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>>343656718
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>>343656802
graphics are objectively better. VLR had terrible graphics.
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>Mira is a virgin
>Diana is an used up sex doll cumrag
>Manipulative time goddess Akane is Yandere for Junpei.
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>>343656607
Fragments system was pretty neat and VLR didn't have that.
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>>343656690
>>343655894
this

i literally sold my 3ds when i heard there was a steam version and bought it on steam
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>>343656763
Carlos was Left all all along, but he doesn't find it out until post-ZTD when he saves someone who looks exactly like himself.
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>>343656846
He is there to motivate Akane, otherwise she wouldn't give a single fuck about anything
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>>343656935
>Phi is cute
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As far as sales go, I think you can't expect the game to sell more even as much as VLR. The only thing that matters is how much copies do they expect to sell.

>>343656361
Yeah, I really didn't like VLR much at all due to how it setup its story to resolved in another game. Sure, it gave some food for thought, but finishing it didn't feel very fulfilling.
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Why can't you solve lengthy anagrams in your second language like Akane can?
Do you even have a second language? Pathetic.
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>>343656180
You are genuinely fucking retarded.
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>>343656929
Alright.
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>>343656574
thx m8
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>>343657063
i just realized Akane must make the Japanese players feel very stupid
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>Zero II is an evil esper who is jumping timelines to ensure Radical-6 will be released in every timeline to kill off humanity for good
>Sigma, and Phi use their now polished shift powers to stop Zero in a race against Time to stop this Dilemma
>It's Esper(s) vs Esper with Zero always 9 steps ahead. True ending is the one timeline that you stop Radical-6 and save the world
That is what I thought this game would be.

I am completely disappointed.
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>>343657063
>study linguistics
>speak three languages

Maybe I wouldn't actually die in a series like this.
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>>343657035
Play VLR. Junpei doesn't need to be there for Akane to work her ass off.
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>>343657063
But what can I make with the letters "D" "E" "L" "T" and "A"?
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>>343657224
Would you be able to figure out 'The man on the moon rules the infinite time?'
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>>343657268
DTLAE?
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>>343657196
what Japanese players?
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>>343656531
>no final puzzle room
>many of the rooms are either braindead easy or easily some of the worst in the entire series with recycled puzzles, ie. pod room
I'm surprised I don't see more people complaining about this.
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>>343657218
I always thought that Zero was some kind of being that's close to the Player.
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>>343657297
please, that's child's play
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>>343657241
Maybe you should play and realize that VLR Akane only did all that stuff to create a good timeline for her and Junpei
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>>343657319
>search for ztd art on pixiv
>LITERALLY NOTHING NOT EVEN ONE PICTURE
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>>343657268
TALED
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>>343656992
Anon, make sure you edit your shit.

Sounds like you really don't want the characters to have a happy ending.
Right there with you. Carlos and a "MY LIFE IS A LIE" character arc would be so entertaining
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>>343657319
I will never forgive gookland for buying dangan shit over this series.
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>>343656531
Akene nendroid WHEN?
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>>343657063
I didn't even try because I knew they were going to solve it later anyway
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>>343657268
donno, maybe wait for the 4th game?
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>>343657514
They're clearly suited to two different audiences. DR happens to appeal to weebs, while ZE is fairly western (but not western enough for a lot of people).
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>>343655776
Holy shit.
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>>343657218
>R-6 wasn't even important
>Left? Who?
>brother is old as fuck. Let's ignore this old fuck.
>oh, yeah, there's this dude who's gonna kill 8 billion now
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>>343657568
>donno
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So, why exactly did they believe Delta when he said there'd be some terrorist that starts a nuclear war? They didn't even question it.
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>people shittalking the game that sparked enough interest to even let ZTD possible to defend the new game

A new low
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>>343656918
>so these are the kind of people that worship this game
Dunno if the game's been out long enough for people to "worship" it
But ZTD didn't pussyfoot around the violence like VLR did.

Not saying that it had anything close to the oppressive atmosphere of 999, and nothing made me as tense as waiting for the AB game results did.
But it's not a massive failure of a game either.

I'm actually kind of glad that ZTD is now going to be taking a lot of the negativity that VLR had to take in comparison to 999
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;_;
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>>343657268
ALT + DEL, duh.
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>>343657409
So? Junpei doesn't need to be in the game. He just need to be alive.
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>>343657063
I wish I had a girlfriend voiced by Miyuki Sawashiro deciphering anagams and solving calculations like she's powered by some kind of CPU.
I just don't wish she cockblocked me so hard she grabbed my engagement ring, cleared all memories of our reunion, and sent me packing for the next 45 years.
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Best song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTSA0KM8h0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7ydrp6Mhf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWYdW5JPQ7c
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>>343657801
How many times anon. They're all dumb as a single fucking brick.
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>>343657823
>Life is simply unfair
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>>343657835
but Junpei was in VLR too
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>>343657823
pshh..how can you be happy...when owning a console....
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>>343657063
Abducting people and making them play a deadly game in your secret facility where you have written bloody anagrams in the walls is so stupid holy shit
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Well Uchi has done a Q&A for 999 & VLR that explains post game stuff.

Hopefully he'll do one this time too.
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>>343657823
Probably the most emotional point in the game for me.
Really humanises Delta/Zero. And it's nice to see a pure character like Sean get a happy ending.
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>>343657801
Akane should have already known about that timeline. They made her a fucking idiot so Delta would seem more powerful than he was.
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>>343657909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nOFP6knXpo

The song that brainwashed me into liking Carlos
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>>343657949
So were Clover and Alice. Your point?
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>>343654338
There's a prologue in the booklet.
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>>343657909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHsHJn7lH3g
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So what happened with Diana in the "mama" ending?
Delta just killed everyone, left her alive and then what? Had her bake cookies for him?
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>>343658020
and then he makes Q's head fall off

kekked to be honest
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>>343658236
Then he asked her about why he feels funny when he looks at Mira.
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>>343658149
That Akane is a selfish person, it would pretty obvious if you weren't so biased
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>>343658236
MIND HACK
RAPE DUNGEON
HORIZONTAL TANGO
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>>343658236
he probably killed her shortly after
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Stuck on Team Q fuck.
2 endings remaining to get, got the Force Quit for C and D too, even got the Perceptive End.
Cleared all the fragments I habe and yet I still have several locked from team Q.
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>>343657816
ZTD wasn't anything special in the violence department. Any kind of actual animation was avoided by convenient camera angles and blackouts. That's what I would call pussyfooting.
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>>343658236

Kind of weird, he spared Diana but not Sigma.
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>>343658236
nothing, it was just to make it obvious to people who Delta was
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>>343658396
post flowchart
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>>343658396
Make sure you have all the vote outcomes unlocked

If you're stcuk on "who killed mira" then let the timer run out
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>>343658345
What does that have to do with Junpei being needed for ZTD? All he has to do is not to get his dumbass self killed for Akane not to give up on a timeline.
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>>343658396
What choices are blocking you, outside the Force Quit?
Check that you have all bad ends when you can answer. Rest of the tips apply.
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>>343658464
Yeah he seems like god tier dad material
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>>343657218
I called Radical 6 being a better alternate solution to global anihilation, but I thought Zero2 would turn out to be literally you/Blick Winkel

That said, it could still certainly be the case that Delta is Blick or an extremely similar being, but he's reverse shifting and seeing other's histories, which he assumes is mindreading capabilities, and on top of that
>Germany
>Crazy ass viruses like Rad-6
>Not being connected to Leiblich

I find that hard to believe.
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>>343658236
Sent her back in time to create a version of himself that could be raised by his own mother.
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What puzzles or decisions did you guys like the most?
I liked the pod room the most because of the shifting room mechanic and the sliding block puzzles (though normally boring) were refreshing from the overdone converting numbers/letters, finding keys/screwdrivers shit in every other puzzle room.
I liked the antidote part because I was genuinely impressed by Akane's plan, and I liked figuring out her reasoning and solution.
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Why do people criticize VLR so much? The game answers all the questions about the game it just leaves threads to be explored in the sequel but it's not like you are left wondering about the events of VLR after it.
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>>343658665

In VLR when they found the recording of Diana saying she killed 6 billion people, Junpei is the one who recognises it and said he was there during the experiment.

Therefore he had to be there.
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>>343658665
Which is why he's there in ZTD. If he wasn't, Akane would have no personal stakes, since she wants to create a timeline where both the world is saved, and he's alive
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>>343658779
I don't get it, either. VLR wrapped up its own contained mysteries and set up mysteries for the finale to have left to resolve; its job wasn't to be a finale, so it's left-over threads were fine.
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Just gonna leave this here.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56940436
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>>343658532
>>343658605
>>343658685

Nvm, got it I guess? Currently getting all execution results. I only had Q Team Executed on my flowchart.

Im guessing after I get C and D new fragments will unlock. Never really bothered fiddling with the voting since I always play the other fragments.
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Anyone else a little disappointed we didnt see Santa again? I thought for sure the would expand a little about what he'd been doing
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>>343656739
I didn't like the "put the items in their corresponding place with the x" and the "rotate the shapes until they match" puzzles so imagine how I felt when they repeated each 3 or 4 times.
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>>343658834
He could be partaking in a gay orgy while ZTD takes place and it would change nothing.
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>>343657909
Power Room is amazing
also, these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ-hWXZBwH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_WlaxEkyYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snRtXUccP7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j2cNGej9PI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7-sK3icMSE
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>>343659007
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
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>>343659007
what is it? I dont have a pixiv account
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>>343659153

He confirmed he was at the testsite in VLR.
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>>343658779
My reasons for not liking were how it didn't live up to the expectations I had after my experiences with 999. Additionally, while it resolved its own internal mysteries and plot lines, it felt cheap that it was all done to service a sequel.

Keep in mind this was at a time when it wasn't known if ZTD would ever be made, so it was a cliffhanger that may have never been resolved.
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>>343658746
My favorite was the incinerator room. Switching between Phi and Diana was fun.

And all outcomes lead to great scenes. I didn't clear D-END:2 at the time, so I questioned Phi's sexuality in the barbecue end when she told Diana what she did.
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So let me get this straight, Delta was with Q-team the whole time? The "shoot delta" ending during the standoff confused me because all of a sudden Mira and Eric called Q Sean, why did they know that? And why was Delta only acknowledged by the rest of Q-team during that scene? I know he was pretending to be blind and deaf but I'm really not understanding why Delta was never brought up in conversation except when Q-team was in the decontamination room
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>>343654007
The writing in 999 is really bad
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>>343659127
ingame files says he is also part of crash keys
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>Didn´t play VLR
>Still perfectly understood what ZTD is about because everything from VLR is spoonfed to you
Just how fucking MAD are you? The whole VLR game from what I understood was irrelevant anyway because it´s basically just ´´what´´ happens in the bad end where Phi is infected with radical. I played 999 tho
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>>343659127
>How's Santa doing?
>Oh my brother? Yeah he's cool I guess.

Kinda bummed they hand waved that shit away quickly
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>>343659362
k
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>>343655053
Seeing the characters mouths just flap open and close looks a bit weird, probably just because it was originally intended for a sprite instead of a higher quality drawing. Not sure how they'll handle the twist either for the Vita/PC either. But other than those two things I'm really looking forward to it. Voice acting was the one thing I wanted out of the port besides better visuals/sound quality.
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>>343659325
because the game has to pull a lot of extremely convenient bullshit to hide the trick
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>>343657410
give it time anon.
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>>343659325

They do talk to him.
Except you're lead to believe they're talking to Gab.
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>>343659251
So was K. Junpei added nothing to the story other than so yeah I wrecked for, do you like me now, Akane?
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>>343658396
Go back to the voting and get all team eliminations.
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>>343656236
Yeah, the only way a continuation would happen would probably be via the "Episodic" format considering the budget issues and Uchi's ideas of what people want to see, along with the idea that the game was kind've like a training arc for espers. But, yeah, it's never meant to be.
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>>343659560
>give VLR time
>nothing but furry zero III porn
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>>343656516
Introducing a ton of shit, hyping it all up, and doing nothing to resolve almost any of it is bad writing. VLR's sequel baiting was bad form when the game came out and it's not better now. Shoving answers off to a finale is how you get Lost.
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>>343657342
>Zero is the essence of a Chaotic Evil Player
>The type of player that chooses the evil path because they want to see suffering and the bad endings
>Conversely, you play as the Lawful Good Player
>The type of player that chooses the good paths because they want to see the characters happy, and get the good/True ending
>Climatic reveal is that you and Zero are the same person, just a Player playing a video game, manipulating lives that are not your own because of your decisions.
>All the characters are now aware that it is a outside single entity that is controlling their actions and their choices.
>They all turn to look at you because now they plan to rebel and finally break your control.
>The game is now figuring out Puzzles that the characters have created to slow down your progress and hide their own actions.
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>>343659749
t.cuck.
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>>343659647
K was never confirmed to be at test site. Only in secret ending, which was scrapped now that he isn't in ZTD.
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>>343659972
What are the two passwords?
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Guys, I'm stuck, the only things left are the Force Quit Boxes, and the Fragments with Eric with the shotgun and the Triangle shotout. Is there something I am missing, no matter what I do on those last two I can't get it right, and I don't know the passwords for the FQBs.

I mean they are an anagram of the words at the top right?
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Is this about right?

>1900s, two children appear in alien technology in Germany
>Phi is sent to the future (possible to test the machine) and Delta stays with the Germans
>USA confiscates the Germany tech
>The leader of a company, Ace, tests/knows about morphegenic fields/timelines, possible through the alien tech the USA has now with children
>one of the children being tested through the field tells herself about it from another timeline and the events of 999 occur in order for a Akane from a different timeline to save her younger self from another

This is where the story is absolutely butchered in my opinion, though you could say it was butchered from the moment the 2 children (from the future arrived in the past)

>Mars testing happens (ZTD)
>in ONLY ONE of the timelines allows the events of VLR to happen, you have to assume this is the actual canon ending until VLR happens
>but phi/sigma already have their memories from the future

can someone explain the 2nd part to me? I mean how could the children even be there if the events of ZTD have to happen before anything happens at all?

fucking alien technology ruined it
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So the saddest moment was where Sigma is sat with his limbs blown off realizing that this is the exact timeline he came back to prevent and that the last 45 years of isolation were all for nothing. right?
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>>343655368
I liked the dub this time, I didn't in VLR, or at least didn't used it.
I'm glad.
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>>343660093
During the Decision part where Eric holds a shotgun to you and asks who killed Mira, let the timer run out.
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>>343660093
Honestly was in the same boat as you senpai

I missed 1/2 endings and finally said fuck it and just looked up the FQB passwords

You only really sort of ruin 1 spoiler of the game for yourself this way, though it is a major one imo
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>>343659560
>nigger hands
>not Sigma's
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>>343655476

It's still bullshit
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>That biscuit i gave you... that was the last one.
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>>343660093
1- Go to "Who killed Mira" and let the timer run out

or

2- Go to the AB game again.
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>>343660145
That moment was pretty fucking sad, yeah.

Though for me, the moment that beats that one is when Diana is holding him in her arms as he's dying because he protected her and Phi. Bluebird Lamentation playing and him calling her Luna...;_;
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>>343656607
>ZTD was just a big recycling of VLR, but worse. There wasn't anything that it did that VLR didn't do better.
You can say the same thing about VLR and 999. It's be an exaggeration, just like your statement is, but it's just as applicable.

>Uchikoshi kept telling people that such-and-such would appear in ZTD, and none of it did. That's ZTD's problem.
I disagree. It's Uchikoshi's problem for making dumb promises and it's VLR's problem for being unable to set up a story that can be cleanly resolved.

Suppose you have two companies involved in the building of a house. The first company is responsible for the foundation; the second is responsible for the house itself. No matter how good the house builders are, if the foundation is too shit, the house will not be stable. You shouldn't blame company 2 because company 1 laid a shit foundation and said "don't worry, company 2 will compensate for it!" It is the responsibility of everyone at every step of the process to ensure the story is maintainable going forward, and VLR is a massive failure in that regard. It made me mad when I played it, and it still makes me mad now.
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>>343660397
that was fucked up man
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Can anyone explain to me the Q/sean shenanigans? Im sure as hell someone should have at least mentioned that there is an old guy in wheelchair right? How was anyone supposed to guess that Q isn´t that kid with helmet.


And why do you guys keep talking about VLR? ZTD true ending and VLR aren´t connected. VLR is what happens after the virus ending which isn´t canon. Shit happened, sigma and phi came back and save the world basically. That´s all there is to it
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>>343655053
>999 remaster has new different routes that can happen due to shifted knowledge from VLR/ZTD
>ZTD's finale was just a ruse cruise, and the true finale will be released as DLC after 999 remaster is released.

Will never happen, but would be absolutely batshit insane if it did.
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>>343655440
>Another one
How didn't people get the ending?
Another friend was upset wether they killed Delta or not, but didn't fly through their heads that it really, really doesn't matter.
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>>343660397
>>343660432
Is this a manifestation of the morphogenetic field?
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You know, it's funny how the original Sigma and Diana that got left behind in their dimension managed to find a timeline with a living Phi in it and the dimension traveling copies didn't.
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tfw ZTD was announced exactly a year ago today

we're in the history that god abandoned
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>>343655894
I wouldn't have gotten it anywhere else if it wasn't on PC because I no longer have my 3ds or vita with me.
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Can sopmeone help me out? I can't seem to proceed further right now
I did all the fragments available, the only places where I am currently "stuck" in terms of needing a password or name are the door of truth, who killed mira?, and I think who killed Akane. Any ideas what I am missing or where to get any of thos infos?
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>>343660560
They mention old man in contexts where it could mean gab.
Calling the kid Sean out of nowhere is bullshit though.
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>>343660469
VLR has nothing to do with the shortcomings of ZTD.
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>>343660827
let timer run out
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>>343660827
who killed mira: "donno"
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>>343660469
But VLR made a fantastic foundation, it was ZTD/Uchi who failed to deliver.
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>>343660469
There are infinitely many permutations for ZE3, a similarly infinite subset of which resolve every thread established in VLR in a satisfying manner. There is nothing in VLR that contradicts itself, so its loose ends can be explained.
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why are there no zero escape doujins
all the art i can find of any game is western art
do jps just not care
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>>343660469
>and it's VLR's problem for being unable to set up a story that can be cleanly resolved.

This is the saddest damage control I've seen.
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>>343660827
Did you roll 3 1s? Did you let time run out on who killed mira?
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>>343660560
I wouldn't say there's one canon ending with the interpretation of time this series uses.
But there are a lot of hints about Q being there, see pic
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>>343655597
sigma waited over 40 years to bang his waifu
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>>343657218
>stop Zero in a race against Time to stop this Dilemma
That was too silly anon.
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>>343661029
Nips only care about 13 year old girls in highschool when it comes to VNs.
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>>343660956
I did those, I looked up some threads online and apparently I need to unlock all executions, I only have the one for team D. How do I get those?
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>>343655597
Do you think thereï¿¥s a naked diana model?
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>>343661029
They don't, that's why uchikoshi is going for the western audience.
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>>343659749
People are going to hate me for this, but that's exactly what Undertale does.
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>>343661118
>implying he didn't slamfuck Diana those 3 years in the moon before she died then moved over to Akane
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>>343661084

>But there are a lot of hints about Q being there, see pic

Fuck that. To make that believable these hints have to be consistent. But the game isn't. There are constantly camera angles where Delta should've been visible, see >>343660407

The execution of that twist was just terrible.
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>>343660101
What happened in 1904 exists in all timelines because it happened before all of it. It doesn't matter that it came from the future of only one of them, because that timeline exists. All of the timelines exist. The VLR timeline has to exist too because otherwise the events at Dcom couldn't have happened

Phi and Sigma have memories of the future because that's where their consciousnesses came from, just like the data that made the makeup of Phi and Delta's bodies came from a timeline, the data of their memories is still present even if they don't return to that timeline

Basically, none of the timelines are undone. The only thing that changes is which one they're in.
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>>343660469
VLR was more different from 999 than ZTD was from VLR. Different enough that people complained about it. Zero being an old man conveniently hidden by the camera, the announcer voice telling people to vote, the emphasis on switching back and forth between timelines, the greater presence of sci-fi elements and environments, even many of the room ideas were pulled right from VLR.
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>>343661303
You're right, I hate you for it.
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>>343661220
Go back to votes and keep voting for the teams you need to kill until the eliminations pop up.
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I'm halfway through the game and I'm already guessing there's a 10th person in the shelter who's manipulating literally every decision in the game.
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>>343659560
This works
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>>343660469
>mfw Uchikoshi is just digging himself deeper every game
>999 was and could have been completely stand-alone and the ending wasn't too open
>VLR adds the whole quest to save the world, more character and unexplained plotpoints
>ZTD resolves few things from VLR and then just multiplies the loose ends making creating a proper sequel and ending practically impossible
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>>343661543

What are you doing in this thread you retard
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>>343659560
Those Phi clothes are so bonerific.
How did Sigma let his daughter wear those?
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>>343661543
holy fuck get the fuck out
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>>343655597
I'm calling that when people unlock the camera it's actually phi's model they're using
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>>343661543
remember when someone predicted that there would be a 10th person manipulating the choices months before the game even game out
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>>343661594
999 is still largely standalone because those events have almost no bearing on the future.
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>Love these games
>Love the story
>become so involved in the story I stop giving a fuck about puzzles, just following guides so I can get more story faster

I'm glad they took puzzles out of the 999 Mobile port, puzzles are the worst part of the series
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Reminder to just pretend C-end was the true end.
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Ok, why did Akane run away at the end of 999, if she's so concerned about the fact that Junpei has become a colder person, and if she's so gung-ho about being with him?

Is she retarded?

>Jumpy always used to jump to my rescue, but now he's cold. Maybe it's because I manipulated him and gave him PTSD? Ooops teehee.
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>>343660093
1. Do the AB game again
2. Let the timer of "who killed Mira" run out
3. Make absolutely sure you got all 3 execution scenes.
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>>343660827
Are you bullshiting Eric again anon?
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>>343661658
This is the same daughter he wanted to impregnate
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>>343661543
you're in for a ride
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>>343656802
I feel like showing the deaths graphically on screen is one of the game's greatest failings. Describing it was so much more impactful.

Though I suppose it'd be hard to handle the third person perspective in text.
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>>343661156
And that's why Ace Attorney and Steins;Gate are popular there?
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>canon endings
>in a universe that establishes all possible timelines play out

I really wish ZTD had talked about this problem more.
After all, in order to get the "true ending" in this you have to murder a bunch of people who happened to win a coin toss
Shifting to a better timeline doesn't make you a quantum warrior making the world a better place, as much as it makes you another selfish person who'd gladly trash your universe for a better one

Though it might be some kind of metaphor for how people who play these games obsessively look for the best possible ending and don't consider themselves to be "finished" unless they get it

I think that might be reaching, and giving the writers a little too much credit but who knows.
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>>343661713
Well, technically they are done so Akane survives to save the world.
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>>343660397
And then they ate Gab.
>>343660596
Didn't you see yesterday's thread with the time travelers?
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>>343661731
Do you have to shitpost this in every thread?
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>>343661840
Both games have underage girls with flat asses. That's reason enough for them to buy it.
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>>343661889
Well yeah, but if you remove 999 and just introduce Akane in VLR as a new character you'd get the same identical outcome.
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>>343661767
>>343660443
Thanks, sempais.
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>>343661902
>>343660596
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>>343661902
we have like 10 ztd threads each day. I cant read all the posts
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so...

"i killed 6 billion in order to avoid 8 billions death"
that has to be the most stupid shit i've ever heard, hitler
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>>343656361

agreed, at least they did something in VLR by preventing the radical six outbreak, even if they did use that as a lead in for stopping the other crisis they still did something. for VLR the ending basically turned into "uh i can't think of a good ending for this game, lets put it off til the next one :^)"
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>>343661927
Not that guy, but I agree with him. Puzzles just get in the way of the story and are annoying. At least in VLR and ZTD you could go ahead and just flowchart your way through everything (not to mention ZTD had less puzzles), but in fucking 999 you had to redo that shit again.

Puzzles were a mistake and the worst parts of every game.
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>>343660407
In that scene you can hear that Eric shot one more person and you can see Delta's blood on the floor at the edge of the screen, do it again.
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>>343661886
LIFE IS UNFAIR

DIDJU RIKE IT?
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>>343661886
Which is why I hate Akane. I understand the need of creating a new timeline where r-6 doesn't destroy the world(back when le fanatic didn't exist), but once that's done they need to fuck off back to their own timelines.
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>>343661886
It's the bluebird
There will always be another catastrophe to avoid, and another "lol I was just honing your skill to help prevent and EVEN BIGGER catastrophe than that one"

This is ultimately a game and they want it to continue forever so they can keep selling it. They'd never end it, and it would clash thematically with the game if they did anyway. If you suddenly reached a conclusive ending, would you really be satisfied? There always has to be something else out there worth striving for otherwise what's the point
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ZT4 twist:

>I killed 8 billion.... TO AVOID THE COLLAPSE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM

True end is Junpei and Akane travellion to a new earth using the transporter and repopulating it.
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>>343658110
>you will never be carlos's maria
>he will never hold you in his strong firefighter arms while this plays
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>>343662170
I love how they retconned Brother.

VLR
>I killed 6 billion to cleanse humanity because I saw how toxic everyone was. It was my divine revelation to create a new world order

ZTD
>I used the power of MIND HACK to predict some religious fanatic was going to exterminate every single human so I killed 6 billions to prevent that. COMPLEX MOTIVES
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>>343662156
See >>343662114
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>>343660101
Phi and Delta both stayed in the early 1900's and got adopted. Phi was the only one that got her data sent to the future. An older Phi adopted the Phi that got sent to the future.
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Have an alt timeline where ZTD doesn't exist
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>>343662267
I got tired of escape the room puzzles just as I was finishing up ZTD thankfully.
I just find it funny to imagine that zero, after having all of his mechanisms and shit in place, had to go around the room throwing scraps of paper around for you to pick up. It's really silly.
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>>343662114
I can't see anything wrong with that pic.
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Guys, how do I get the 4th ending? I was stuck at that point for about an hour jumping between points in the game where I have to make choices and tried to make sure I got all of them, I mean I even got the Perceptive ending before I just went fuck it and got the "True ending"

I'd just like to finish off the game, but have no idea what to do to get the 4th and final ending for myself
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>>343662170
Also keep in mind how he said it was 75% chance that the guy he wanted to kill died in the process. As such, there was a chance that the snail terrorist was still alive.
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>>343662372
Left? Who's Left?
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>>343662372
>>I killed 6 billion to cleanse humanity because I saw how toxic everyone was. It was my divine revelation to create a new world order

That was said by Dio, not by Brother itself. It's less retconning and more Dio misunderstanding Delta's true nature.
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>>343659127
it was stated santa was helping from the outside
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So were the limbs in the freezer that Carlos and Akane used for the puzzle really Junpei's? What happened?
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So the whole thing about Brother/Delta being furious about Left's death and wanting to cleanse humanity is a lie? It sounded like it wasn't a concern to Delta at all.
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>>343662550
oh uh, my adoptive brother. Never mind him.
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>>343662352

Yeah it's basically :

Does Carlos shoot Delta or not? Both, timeline splits in 2.

Do they stop the terrorist blowing up everything or not? Both timeline splits in 2.
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>>343661084
>20
WOAH wait seriously?
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>>343660560
>How was anyone supposed to guess that Q isn´t that kid with helmet
The thing is, you're not supposed to.
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>>343662363
I can be his boyfriend instead, and have him do all the things he can't do to Maria to me.
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>>343662580
Did you try finishing the game? It's one of the few things explained.
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>>343662580
play the game
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>>343662449
>tfw you are trapped in the ZTD timeline
Fug. How do I SHIFT bros?
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>>343660101
I find it odd that they explicitly tell us that the original bodies do not get transported, rather a copy is made, and the original stays in that time. Wouldn't that mean there is a Phi as old as Delta?
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>>343662681
but he isnt gay
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>Dio will be back but will not be the same

so is Dio the fanatic that destroy the world?
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>>343662609
He and Kyle need to run off together and get over their delusions that their creators care about them at all. Together, they can take on the world.
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>>343662372
Brother wouldn't have told Dio his true motives, he only told Dio what he needed to know. You could say exactly the same about 999 if you wanted to. I mean, Zero told them they're playing a game, why didn't Zero just tell them they're training Junpei so that he can save past Akane? The deception was necessary

If you start picking on these things, you should at least do it consistently with the entire series
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>>343662527
Check'em
also the date.
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>>343662745
Are you sure about that?
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>>343662759
Maybe he changed his mind along the way and didn't know how to implement him in the story? It wasn't set on paper just yet.
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>>343662734
it was in one of the files

That Phi grows up being a researcher then adopts the Phi that was sent to the future and then dies when she is 100 years old
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>>343662734

Yes, it's explained in the post game files, and it's suggested that the old researches couple that raised Phi is the other Phi.
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>>343662449
Did anyone film the whole panel? I really want to see it.
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>>343662734
Which is 2008 Phis adoptive mother.
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>>343662759
Dio is only part of the VLR timelines
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Just got the nice computer ending for Sean, Zero is not a bad guy is he?
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>>343662710
>Diana was drunk
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>>343657909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j2cNGej9PI

>That part from 1:07
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I love how in the epilogue, Junpei is all like "Holy shit there is a timeline where I spent 45 years looking for you and died lonely and unhappy. How fucked up is that?" and Akane is like "teehee nevermind that, just do me on the kitchen table again"
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>>343662592
He is furious about it.
Mira was indirectly responsible so he put her there both as a hazard and as punishment, and put her in his team so he could witness her suffering should she die

Could be wrong about that, but that's how it looked to me.
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>>343663018
Get out of here you idiot
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>>343661742
She never expected Junpei to go the edge master route. It really takes it by surprise when she meets him here.
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>>343663005
there's a machine that can copy people to other timelines, everything is possible
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>>343662941
reminds me of a certain other game
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>>343663072
Was he really lonely and unhappy though? He had muh Quark.
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>>343662280

You don't get it do you? It's the inconsistency I'm talking about ffs. Delta should be clearly on screen in the upper screenshot. Adding a few shadows and blood doesn't make the twist work. Especially when some of these added effects are bullshit, like the four thuds that can be heard. How is Delta supposed to fall unto the floor? He's lying in his wheelchair.
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>>343662535
He mentions that history proves him right though. That being said, when 75% of the world suddenly dies, I think the terrorist would just say fuck it and return to whatever god he does that shit for on his own, even without rad6
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>>343654645
You know I thought that too why not just shift into Jumpy and Akane from the end of 999
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>>343663218
Before knowing Quark? Yes.
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>>343663098
was Left the surgeon or Sean?
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>>343663218
That's what they were talking about.
You can't really deny Old Man Junpei's happiness with Quark.
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>>343663270
it would be extremely complex
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So to tie up loose ends :

Clover & Alice mentions Akane has a mean to send them back physically. We can assume it's the transporter, so after VLR, Akane sends them to the good timeline.

We can even assume old Sigma sends Kyle & Luna there so they can have a nice life.

But....would Akane pull a troll move and also send Alice back to ancient Egypt so she would actually be the mummy?
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>>343661594
You know what?
This is what I would've found ideal:
ZE3 more of a novel style that properly finishes off the trilogy in the way it was meant to.

I actually wouldn't have minded a cinematic Zero Escape spin-off (budget constraints aside) , but shoehorning the style in middle of the story was a huge mistake. Uchi fucked up and the hole...or, should I say mess?, that he left can't be fixed.

Just a note, complaining about it actually is making me feel a lot better
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>>343663317
After too. He mentions how he wasted 45 years chasing a woman that was pretty much dead. That shit has to hurt.
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Anyone help me with the 4th ending? I have got all the others, I'd just like to 100% the game
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Can anyone make edit of delta with text saying ´´JUST complex my shit up´´?
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So did this really sell poorly on all platforms

I'm kind of relieved because I don't want a 4th game at this rate. ZTD already feels like the driving it into the ground has begun
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>>343663270
Passwords are Escape and Murder
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>>343663098
Sean isn't Left. Left died when Brother was 16, so around 1930.
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>>343663218
Life was hell before meeting quark. Meanwhile Akane was chilling with siggy.
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so from seeing these thread in the past week i can conclude that the biggest elephant in the room is kyle being MIA right?

i've seen people complaint about left being unused but kyle seems to be a consistent complaint
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So, here's the first puzzle, its upside down though.
>>343663390
The answer is MIND HACKING
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>>343654007
Infinity >>>>> Zero Escape
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>>343663442
liar.
post flowchart
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>>343661543
Lol that's impossible. In the previous games Zero is always one of the participants.
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>>343663470
But thats no fun
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>Who killed Mira?
>Delta
I DONT KNOW WHO THAT IS

what the FUCK are you talking about? How do you not know who that is Eric
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>>343663306
Maybe he did not sit around and wait long enough. That guy was really pissed about snails. Killing everyone else in the process was just a by-product.
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>>343663496
>I'm gonna fuck thousands of Junpei's over so I can get my favorite one in the way I want!

When you put it that way, Akane is a fucking manchild.
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>>343663643
because he knows him as q
calm down lad
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>>343663643
The old man is Q to everyone until he himself admits his name is Delta
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>>343663643
Q's name is explained after that moment in that timeline anyway.
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How the fuck couldn't Delta figure out who the terrorist was if he knew of him?
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There is liteally no reason for Akane to not Junpei to the moon with her, is she retarded?

He'd be an imense help, and it's not like romantic relationships would distract anyone since Sigma takes Diana with him.
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>>343655510
3DS version was leaked and watch version delayed. There's a lot of people pirating the PC version while waiting for their watch.
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>>343663643
that is a unique reaction.
He only says that when you answer delta
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>>343663754
Complex Motives anon
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Nevermind, found the hints.
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>>343663754
deus ex machina

half of this story was pulled out of someone's ass
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>>343663754
because there is not terrorist, he is lying
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The worst thing is what happened to the original team that won the coin toss.
Just imagine:
>What the fuck happened? Why are we outside? Who's that kid with that weird head? What should we d- WOAAAAAH THE FUCK IS THIS PLACE WHY IS EVERYTHING BEEPING? 10 SECONDS TO EXPLOSION WAIT WHAT?
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>>343663756
The reason is everything needs to happen like it did in VLR
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>>343663524
You can make shit up to cover up for K. Like Akane knew about brother being zero/good guy and fed info/lies to K about the fanatic and what not before faxing him back to 1900 so Delta can read his mind(maybe changing his mind if he was originally bad) to set up ZTD.
Left being unimportant is a fucking crime.
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>>343663897
>Shit I know, lets shift.
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>>343663920
FUCKING WHY. THERE ARE COUNTLESS TIMELINES, SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO FOLOW THE FAILED ONE STEP BY STEP. IS. SHE. FUCKING. RETARDED?
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>>343663897
It would have been a better end than just fading to black and having to lose the coin toss just because there's nothing else to do.
If that happened I'd be like fuck I gotta figure out what the fuck happened and/or stop it. Then realize it was my decision in the first place.
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>>343663754
Because it's way too complex to know that.

Seriously though
>Delta knows about that super awful terrorist but not a single thing like gender, age, continent, date of terrorism act
>Super Power Jumping Squad will magically find the terrorist by shifting through histories where they are still alive that all happen before World War Zero
>It was my complex ruse all along!

Delta is a fucking idiot.
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>>343663587
Ever17 was shit 90% of the game
Remember11 didn't even finish.
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>>343663756
Yeah, I thought that was bulllshit too. The only logical reason I can think of is that she needed Junpei to take part in the VLR Nonary Game which would rely on him not knowing anything about it. Still doesn't seem like she'd need to cut him off like that.
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>>343663756
She has to repeat everything that happened the way it happened. Why it ever happened that way originally is a good question, it could be that there is no "originally" in a time loop

Why all of this happened at all is highly suspect
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So, do people rush through the game as fast as they can or what? I see a lot of complains regarding the plot that are explained in the game.

The things that are missing are where is Kyle (I guess he could be either Gab or the Player) and if a Left clone existed there or not.
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>it's not the first game at their own fucking webpage
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>>343663669
>ZTD has Akane playing house with Junpei while the fanatic is still around
Fuck Uchi.
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>already in line for Aksys panel
Let's hope for more 999
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>>343664083
>90 minutes
>90
>Nine
>Zero

don't know how I didn't notice that before
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>>343656385
As someone who likes Carlos, even I can concede with that. Uchi fucked him up. Even the other newbies have more or less some connection to the snail thing, Zero, or VLR, and...he's the black sheep.

It's almost as if it was a coincidence that an arsonist burnt down his house and killed his parents, leading up to him and his sister awakening their esper powers. Along with how powerful his turned out to be, it's almost like a huge chunk of his story fell off into oblivion. A random guy that just so happens to be leader and be given the gun.
I like to think there's something mysterious to it of future consequence but Uchi doesn't give a fuck
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>>343661886
Isn't that what Uchikoshi said in the prologue or whatever? What the player consider happy ending is not necessarily the best/true ending or something along the lines.
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>>343663897
>end up shifting back to the team outside
>outside team, shifts back
>repeat forever
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>>343663897
They will just keep shifting untile someone that doesn't know how to shift gets stuck there
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>VLR Junpei reaches earth.
>Suddenyl he starts downloading memories from ZTD timeline
>Feels angry and betrayed that he was thrown to the curb so Akane could have another Junpei instead
>Knows of the megaton bomb Diana uses in the gag ending.
>Uses it
>Creates 8 billion dead timeline.
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>>343663754
>Terrorist is some sort of super esper/mind hacker that can jump from person to person and assume direct control
>The only way to stop them would be to somehow disable their shift capabilities long enough to kill them while preventing a reflexive jump

Why the fuck couldn't this have been Brother?
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>>343664154
It's an embarrassment they outsourced.
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>>343664178
it's not going to be more ZE
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If delta can see when fanatic bio R gets released, why not just release radical 6 at the same time?
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This took me longer than expected.
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>>343664096
Couldn't she just take him to the moon, live with him for 45 years, and then wipe his memory?

>>343664175
Junpei had seen the VLR timeline, and had made damn clear he would be following her, so I guess she just went "Ah fuck it, let's go home and have sex"
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>>343664178
>spergs next to me in line
It's not worth it

>>343664338
Someone will ask about the port and maybe they'll give something.
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>>343664410
It took me fucking forever.
It was way harder than the similar ones because there were no dots to help connect shit.
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>>343656385
Carlos is the reason everything happened.
He copied himself to the past. Delta, who can't shift, read his mind and realized he had to make the plan and create all the stuff that he saw in Carlos' mind
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>>343664410
It took me like 20 minutes until I realized I could rotate the blocks. And I did so by accident. This and the pills puzzle took me way too long and that's why I ended up with a save of 19+ hours.
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Why dont they shift to a timeline where neither the 8 billion or 6 billion people die and none of the nonary games exist?
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>>343664380
not bad. library background coincidentally suitable
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>>343664204
I figured Delta just wanted a lot of shifters.
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>>343664412
>le amnesia syringe
Uchi and Akane are both retards.
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>>343664178
>>343664439
How spergy?
Any cuties?
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I was much happier looking forward to this game than playing it.

Is ZTD an analogy for the bluebird?
>>
>>343655510

Not every PSN account ever is on PSN profiles. Uncharted 4 sold millions and only has 93k owners on that site, for example.
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>>343664541
I think in that timeline, no one had their powers so they can't actually SHIFT there.

>>343664607
Talks to himself spergy.

And like 3 or 4 7/10
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>>343664541
Few of them would even exist in that timeline
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>>343664670
>40 times less
That means it sold ~40k on Vita, not bad.
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>>343664589
I mean seriously, she comdemned him to a life on hell, went to the moon and proceeded to chill and do nothing while Sigma did all the heavy work.

It's even worse because she goes "I have 45 years of work to do" and Junpei himself goes "Fine, I'll help you". Like, she didn't even had to manipulate or kidnap him or anything.
>>
what was the point of Mira and Eric in the game?

They were just actually nobodies that just happened to take part in something everyone else was either a shifter or could access the morph field etc
>>
>>343664621
Is this the Metal Gear Solid V of our generation?
>>
>lirik is streaming ztd for 26k viewers
Are we mainstream yet?
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>>343664380
>So, you decided to kill him
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>>343664527
I believe a +19hrs save is pretty normal.
Mine is 21.
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>>343664861
where?
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>>343662985
There was a camera filming it. idk who or where they're uploading.
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>>343664830
Delta just liked having some actual D cups around. Being a slutty killer was just the icing on the cake. Eric just came along because they're a 2 idiots for 1 deal.
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>>343664830
Mira killed Eric's mom, which had Akane's dad get executed, which led to Akane's mom commuting suicide and starting 999 because of Ace's nonary game.

Just backstory from Uchi and COMPLEX MOTIVES for Delta
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>>343664708
>Talks to himself spergy.

Maybe he's mind hacking someone?

>3-4 7/10
Neat. Get them to RP as Phi and you as Sigma for some time-traveling incest.

Also, do you think everyone at the line there played ZTD? Try to say some spoilers in a way they can't realize.

Like
>Oh man I sure loved the 10 voice actors for the participants in ZTD
>>
I just realized something. Instead of following the horribl VLR timeloop timeline, why didn't Akane take Junpei to the moon, put Carlos and his sister in the carboniute pods, and use them on her plans? Wouldn't she have 4 people helping her in the next ZTD, instead of 2 useless idiots who couldn't even realize that the chair bound old fuck was the old fuck they were searching for?
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>>343664990
Where do you think video games are streamed?
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>>343664708
>>343664729
Then why not shift to a time where they do exist and they have their shift powers the theory does have infinite possibilities
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Earlier in this timeline, Akane split the couch in two with her chainsaw.

What? Did Zero have a fucking spare couch or what? Where did all the blood go?
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>>343665098
I mean the name, faggot lord.
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>>343665150
He did have a moving truck handy just in case.

Maybe he had spare couches too.
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>>343665150
C O M P L E X
M
O
T
I
V
E
S
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>>343665246
Would make sense to keep the charade up.
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>>343665223
Which part of
>lirik is streaming
did not not understand?
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>>343655335
they did show the character portraits kek watch the entire video faggot
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>>343665075
Carlos esper powers are too strong maybe? Why didn't she use the fax machine instead tho?
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>>343665106
If there exists a future where the terrorist is stopped, it's because they probably had something to do with preventing it (or maybe it's the opposite: their involvement causes it to happen to begin with)

Regardless, they jump to timelines they're aware of existing, so I guess they can only jump to known timelines? They know nothing of the other timelines yet. For instance, there's surely a timeline where the whole bomb shelter thing WAS a joke by the Dcom staff, but they wouldn't know anything of that timeline so they can't jump to it
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>>343653896
What even is this game about?
>>
Sigma and Phi are fucking useless, holy shit.
>>
>>343665035
>I haven't played the games
Fuck these guys they're all playing monhun on their 3DS
>>
>>343665310
>lirik
Who?
>>
>>343665412
it's complex
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>>343665150
shouldn't the entire cover system stop after being cut with a chainsaw? in the other timelines they damage the wall and everything stops
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>>343665425
I WANT C TEAM FAGS TO BE EXECUTED
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>>343665412
Complex murdering of 6 billion people to prevent the death of 8 billion to prevent the death of 6 billion.
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>>343665425
Yeah this was kind of depressing, they didn't really do anything. Shame Phi got such little screentime, she's my waifu
>>
>>343664861
>WTF IS THIS GAME
>wtf is this game
>morphogenetic WHAT?
>hurr
why did i even open this
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>>343665503
Should only disrupt when hitting the wall itself it seems.
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>>343664708
>I think in that timeline, no one had their powers so they can't actually SHIFT there.

Ya know, this would be a pretty alright way to round the series out.
>have the mystery terrorist use shift powers for world destruction
>delta and phi getting sent back in time to research labs are what causes the terrorist to gain said powers
>this is discovered by our band of shift heroes and they have either stop phi and delta from being born, or just deal with the future for a change.
>that is if they could even figure out a way of getting rid of phi and delta, considering they're pretty locked in time loop wise
>>
>>343664861
>check it out
>chat is extreme cancer

I don't know what I expected. Fucker hasn't even played the other 2.
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>>343663489
1920

the math is pretty complex, but 1904 + 16 = 1920
>>
How many endings are there? Also what happened to diana in vlr timeline if she was alive after the events took place?
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>>343665412
Snails
>>343665590
I'm glad I didn't open it.
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>>343665503
The furniture probably runs on a less intensive system which can handle it. Fucking up a wall makes it short out or something.
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>>343665503
I think only the walls and possibly the ceiling and floors were what made the VR rooms work. Furniture was there to be affected by whatever was being projected and wasn't what actively made the VR room work.

Like in Psycho-Pass
>autos to Psycho-Akane
Lel
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>>343665545
So just a bunch of 2d pictures and dialogue boxes then yeah?
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>>343664974
Same, plus 8 minutes so I could read the last files. There were some puzzles I got stuck on because I missed what probably should've been an easy clue (numbers on the drain), and not realizing I could do more than I thought (the key shape on the chair; I didn't realize I could move the camera around after zooming in).
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>>343665246
>has a robot army controlled by a mobile quantum computer and an array of satellites
>can read the mind of anyone on Earth, and can briefly control their actions
>still can't find Bin Laden after 120 years
This game is comedy gold.
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>>343665685
Diana died on the moon 3 years after they went
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>>343665680
No, faggot. Delta was 0 years old in 1904.
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>>343664861
>faggot streams anime games to attract weeaboo money
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>>343664861
>Watching shit tier cancerfags
Get out faggot.
>>
>>343655720
Say that again and I'll smash everything you own except for one pair of earbuds. And then I'll adjust those earbuds so that more sound comes out of the left side than the right!
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>>343665712
With the occasional escape the room style puzzles, yeah.
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>>343655476
What's the point of he being there?
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>>343665712
Not THIS game. It's shitty 3D models and dialog boxes, yeah.
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>>343665680
Does it explain how phi escaped 1904?
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>>343655053
>ADV screen
SHIFT into VLR?
>>
what if delta was hitler
>>
Anyone else notice that in the end of the game Carlos is looking straight at Zero, then seems to aim the gun at someone to his right instead?
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>>343665835
Because Hitler sent her to 2008.
>>
In the d-2 ending why did akane leave sigma and diana behind without sending help?
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>>343656531
I was glad I didn't have to waste any more time on the escapes
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>>343655894
I would have pirated it for 3ds if there wasn't a PC version.
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>>343665903
Infinite possibilities. We're in the mustache hitler timeline.
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>>343665903
>I KILLED 6 MILLION JEWS TO SAVE 2 MILLION JEWS
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How do I get here? I just got the CDQ-end 2
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>>343657514
If only 999 was in a high school and not a boat :^)
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>>343665753
Maybe he's running out of time. He has zero time. A zero time dilemma
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>>343665967
Sigma and Diana 3D printed themselves into that line, Akane didn't know about it.
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>>343665680
Sorry, I had 1930 stuck in my head because that's when he founded FtS.
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>>343665967
With Junpei dead, her plans have failed since he's needed in VLR so she just gives up on them since they'll all die anyway.
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>>343666047
it was a pretty nice boat to be fair
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>>343665802
Thanks I will give it a miss then. Sayonara.
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>>343666074
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>>343666035
you've been sequence breaking haven't you anon
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>>343664178
Shit, should have payed attention to the schedule. Looks like I'm gonna have to sit this one out.
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>Delta is somwhow alive and well at the age of ~120
>Delta is STILL somehow alive with his mind being "as sharp as ever" at the age of ~165 in VLR

How complex does this get?
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>>343666191
The line is still short and the room is big anyway. Probably enough room for another 200 people
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>>343666070
Wait did they? I'm pretty sure when it announced the deaths it was still akane, sigma and diana alive. So she should have known.
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>>343665967
Because she only cares about Junpei.
Don't forget that she killed the entire D-Team by destroying the reactor
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>>343666253
Mind hacking
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>>343666253
Epigenetics, son.
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>>343666286
I'm probably thinking of another timeline right now. Nevermind then
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>>343666253
Maybe he sends infinite copies of himself into the past and then mindhacks them into mindhacking themselves

Even if the original chain breaks, they'll still keep mind hacking each other down the chain forever
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>>343666253
I thought in VLR it was explained he had unknown COMPLEX ways to extend his life.

Like moving trucks and MIND HACK
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>>343666146
Don't think so.
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>>343665924
Maybe he finds out the identity of fanatic like the hero he is.
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>>343663754
mind proxy
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>>343664204
There was such a huge disconnect between what the fans wanted and expected and what Uchi actually concocted. I remember when most people were convinced Carlos was a clone (or the real Left), for example.

>in a set of promo materials released, returning characters (+Diana bc of Luna) were placed on the right, newbies in the middle, and Carlos was alone on the left
>Really? Was that some sort of trolling? Or just a coincidence, like his resemblance to Left?
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>>343666253
Free the Soul built a quantum computer capable of seeing every reality across the multiverse. I'm sure they can keep grandpa alive.
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>>343656361
Kyle is not forgotten though, he's clearly mentioned during the "Mira kills everyone" ending.
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>>343666494
VLR and ZTD were planned to be in development simultaneously. With the 3DS and Vita coming out, they had to split development for some reason.

Uchi was explaining that yesterday at the panel.
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>>343666524
But not find a random cucko? The fuck?
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>>343656531
Not me, I was kind of burn out of them and I was happy I wasn't forced to play a bunch of them as pathing like in VLR.
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>>343666106
>>343666336
She seem to care about others since she kept slapping junpei when he said lets kill them. So even that is weak argument. Sounds like a plothole to me.
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>>343666253
I'm still more amazed that he managed to kill Mira with his own hands at that age.
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>>343665759
I see
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>>343665753
Isn't it pretty much true that the religious fanatic is an esper too? Maybe he has ability to block other espers like delta.
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>>343666707
She needed them alive too and Junpei was acting completely differently from what she remembers because he was basically "fuck it, let's kill them all and let Uchi sort them out."

Probably a plot hole though
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how was delta able to live so long?
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>>343667028
Complex diet
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>>343667028
Lifehacks
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>>343666524
and how did he get this quantum computer? alien technology?
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>>343666642
I'm getting deja-vu from hearing this for some reason.

Source?
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>>343667224
I was there and posted it.
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>>343666494
I have a feeling the story was rewritten to be more accessible to newcomers, which was unfortunately necessary for financial reasons

Most of the story is self-contained. Akane Junpei Phi and Sigma have their origin stories but you don't really need to know them to appreciate the story, you're told as much as you need to know.

If Carlos suddenly ended up being Left, it would violate knox's commandments for newcomers, or would need heavy exposition for the setup and thus give it away
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>>343667169
Studying the Tower of Ayyy he bought in 2009.
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>>343661732
I'm pissed about this. I wanted him to volunteer for some torture game in Diana's place. Just bombs to apparently save Diana doesn't really fit.
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>>343666253
German healthcare.
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>>343667801
I have no idea what even happened in that timeline.
>We're out of time but we have at least 30 seconds to explain why I should go

They also act like it takes more than 3 seconds to walk from the locker to the bomb.
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