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did you prefer the new characters or the returning cast?
This game has some dysfunctionalfamilies.
>>343637695
The new guys were better except for Eric, who was insufferable. Carlos and Diana were easily the best characters in the game.
Meanwhile, Junpei and Akane were awful (though people say Junpei is a lot less annoying if you use the Japanese VA, which I believe), Phi was mediocre but irrelevant, and Sigma was fine but pretty milquetoast.
I liked Carlos and Diana. Sigma was cool, but they dropped the ball with Phi. Wish Akane wasn't there, though. Should have replaced her with Clover.
Well played, uchi.
Am I the only one who hates Carlos?
He gives off that "Hurr Durr Generic Guy who doesn't know whats going on but I'm a fire fighter and have all the answers"
Seems like a nice relatable characters for those faggot bro gamers who didn't even play past one ending
Sean => Carlos > Sigma > Diana > Phi > Akane > Eric > Junpei > Mira
>>343638074
I was expecting more about Phi but she was dead for over half of the game. D-Team was just Diana and Sigma.
And I don't know, I liked Junpei in this game too. Overall favourite character was Carlos though.
>>343638301
>Am I the only one who hates Carlos?
As far as I've seen, yes.
There was already a thread to migrate to.
Just saying.
>>343637695
I like Carlos, and Diana is technically a new character too.
>Junpei
Overall annoying but had a few nice lines
>Akane
Same without the lines
>Eric/Mira
Ugh..
>Sean
Okay I guess. No K but alright.
>Diana
An even uglier version of Luna and not all that great
>Phi
Became a literally who
>Sigma
His mind age sure is showing by how he can't deal with anything anymore
>Carlos
A god
>>343638354
Eric > Phi > Mira > Junpei > Diana > Sigma > Carlos > Akane > Sean
>>343638395
>I liked Junpei in this game
you play with english or jap voice overs? i cannot believe anybody playing in english didn't hate him
>>343637695
I reckon Carlos was one of the best characters in the entire series, personality wise. He's leaning a lot toward the "gary-stu" side of things but has a hilarious moment where he fucked up terribly.
>>343638294
Turns out who we initially thought was the 4th participants never actually was a participant to begin with.
>>343638510
DELETE THIS
>>343638510
Here is your (you)
>>343638301
You are right, just look at these threads all the memes are about him. He is the character for the meme generation
>>343638510
no one actually believes this, r-right?
>>343638538
I played with English voices. I didn't find his character nor the voice itself annoying.
What was wrong with him?
>No Sigma giving Diana 18 inches doujins EVER
>>343638538
His Eng voice was far from perfect but Cloud District Eric was so much worse.
So what was this games experiment?
999 was the ability to communicate and recieve memories from alternate timelines and VLR was SHIFTing? What was ZTD's?
>>343638815
>No ZE doujins EVER
>>343638928
printing babys from the future
>>343637695
The other thread is still alive
>>343623343
>>343623343
>>343623343
>>343623343
>>343638928
I think it would be tooCOMPLEXfor you to understand.
>>343638928
determining how COMPLEX an evil plot can get
I love the ZE series. The games are so goddamn comfy. This is going to be the last one right? Can anyone recommend anything similar? Already played all the AA & All the Danganronpas
>>343638451
>>343639005
Please take note of what board you're on
It doesn't say /vg/, does it?
>>343638738
Eric is like Lotus in that he has no fucking idea what's happening but also is completely unstable so he's just generally perfect
Phi was great in VLR and great here too, too bad she was dead most of the time
Mira is like Axe Clover but like that for the entire game which means she has to be good
Junpei's new personality was neat
Diana was sweet and great in the stranded timeline
Sigma is Sigma
Carlos is also Sigma but more "heroic" and with less of a background
Sean did nothing wrong but that doesn't mean he wasn't boring and didn't have a grating personality, appearance, and voice
>>343639063
Ghost Trick
How long is the game?
>>343637695
I had hoped the returning characters would have interacted more outside of their teams
Would have been nice to see these characters tackle puzzels together and have some witty banter
Carlos and Diana are fine
Mira was only there becauseshe is the one that killed the woman in the park and got akane's parents killedI didn't really like her and the game didn't really give me any reason to think she was interesting enough to care about what she did
Eric was there because Mira was there
literally nothing to him other than to be the paranoid fuck
Sean was also kind of there but made the mystery aspect of the game more interesting
>>343639153
20 hours give or take
>>343639078
Doesn't mean you can spam the board with the same thing over and over.
>>343638538
I loved Jumpy's voice simply because the VA seemed like he was legitimately enjoying himself, and giving his all. Looking at his record he seems like new blood.
Speaking of which though, anyone know who voiced English Carlos yet? The closest voice I can think of is Raphael Sbarge but even then it's a bit far off.
>>343639078
Please don't be a defensive moron because you made a new thread. You're splintering the discussion, and it's the same discussion. There's no new topic in this thread behind broad discussion of the series, so it makes more sense and would be better for it all to be in one thread.
As much as I disliked Sigma and his constant frowning, Team D is still the best team. It has best girl (Phi) and no one overly annoying.
Team C had Junpei who was sometimes annoying and Team Q had Eric who was always annoying.
If you disagree then your opinion is wrong.
Did anyone like the music?
The best BGM was Quondam Monitors on the Control escape room.
I couldn't identify Carlos accent, what was it
>>343639269
Wait, was Phi in this game? I think I missed her.
>>343639063
try steins;gate
>>343638301
Yes, you are the only one, you are a special snowflake.
Fucking milennials.
>>343638928
Not an experiment.
More like "finally got a group of people who understand how bad things will happen and now have the will of the gods to stop what that bad things is".
>>343639430
She didn't get nearly as much screen time as she deserved but yes, she was in the game. She was very cute looking in this game, too.
>>343639191
Does this thread look like spam to you?
Popular games regularly get several threads at once so people can have topical discussions on different facets of the game. I hope you don't complain in Smash Bros or Overwatch threads because you saw more than one and got mad.
>>343639216
I didn't make this thread, genius. I'm just sick of people trying to emulate the feeling of a forum/chatroom instead of treating 4chan like the imageboard it is.
Discussion of different parts of a game going on in different threads doesn't instantly devalue it.
If anything, specific discussion is more valuable.
Please get over this attitude of games only having one thread at a time, it's restrictive and pointless.
>>343639310
The credits theme was pretty great. I liked listening to it each time.
>>343639110
Lotus isn't unstable, she was like the most cool headed person in 999
Phi was good in VLR but had no character in this game except for a few sassy comments to Sigma. Other than that she was irrelevant thanks to being dead for most of the game
Clover is shit, but I actually kind of like Mira
They went way over board with the edge for Junpei and his english voice actor was atrocious. bottom of the list with Eric for sure.
Carlos was fucking bro of the game, top two for sure
Sean isn't great, but every aspect of him is much less annoying than Eric.
>>343639063
YU-NO. Don't play meme's gate.
So how did Carlos get out of the shelter after transporting himself TEN MONTHS into the past?
And why does everybody blame him for creating VLRs timeline when Phi was the one that created it?
>>343639560
You seem a tad frustrated.
Please get overyourself
>>343639656
I don't think the game explains it. We just have to assume the shelter wasn't in lockdown 10 months before the events of the game.
>>343639736
I see you're keen on getting the last word, but I hope I got my point across.
>>343639560
>tiny ass fanbase
>let's spam the board with threads :DDD
>change options to skip lines
>still can't skip lines
>have to wait out everything
where can I find the best version of YU-NO without using that online version?
>>343639656
>Carlos went back
>Delta read his mind and that's why he knows how to organize the Dcom experiment
>>343640047
>it's thanks to Carlos that ISIS will be stopped
Praise him
If Carlos goes back to before the experiment, shouldn't he save them in every timeline in the game...?
>Junpei
Started being better when he stopped trying to antagonize Akane in every turn.
>Akane
No comment on her, just that I'm happy thatJunpei and her finally get together..
>Carlos
Bro.
>Q
Ehh, he's ok,
>Eric
Fucking insufferable. I didn't understand why he was there as a character. I dunno, maybe someone can open up my mind about him.
>Mira
Needed story wise. But, not much else to say.
>Sigma
It's Sigma, but obviously not the "main" character in the party if you get what I mean.
>Phi
Cute. But like others said, was dead half the time
>Diana
Great. Didn't like her at first because I couldn't understand her concept. Halfway though I started to like her.
My only real complaints about this was Eric and the Zero reveal.
I honestly don't understand the Zero reveal and whyhe was actually there all along.I don't get it.
The reveals in 999, VLR or even that other game (Ever 17) made sense. It made me go "Oh shit. Oh shit I understand now!". Zero's reveal just made me go, "huh? fucking what? how?".
Carlos is basically Akane and Junpei's marriage counselor
>>343639846
>tiny ass fanbase
Says who? From what I've seen a pretty large proportion of posters on /v/ revere ZE. It's like when Ghost Trick came out, perhaps on a large scale the fanbase was small, but on /v/ there were half a dozen threads at a time during peak discussion
I'm not sure how 2 threads constitutes as spam now. Trying to apply forum rules or /vg/ rules to /v/ just doesn't work
>>343640186
Sigma is not Sigma, he's the doctor in this situation.
>>343639560
>Discussion of different parts of a game going on in different threads
Except this thread discussion is exactly the same as the other one.
>>343640186Because Q is not the robot. Zero is Q. Sean/Robot boy was never part of the game. Zero/Q was present the entire time but deaf/blind and wheelchair bound. Every time someone mentioned Q they were talking about Zero, not the boy. Hence why everyone was surprised to see a dead boy.
I left 4chan before playing, so I don't know what was the overall reception to this game.
I must say, that I am really disappointed with the finale.
There was no mind-blowing revelations like in the 999 or Ever17, it was even worse than VLR because it was exactly the same idea for the second time
>this whole game was set up to create a timeline where we will be able to jump to the game that will create another timeline and no one dies there
What the fuck happened with the Kyle plot? This was completely dropped. What about Clover and Lotus in the future?
And wasnt there suppose to be a great June plan but whole game she acts like she don't know what the fuck is going on.
The same can go to Sigma and Phi, sometimes they act like they don't know why they are here.
Nothing on Radical Six either, who created it? Why it works like this? etc.
Fuck me if this was a conclusion to the series. It was too complex in the bad way, that all these jumping around serves nothing mind blowing in the end.
>>343639846
>spam
>2 threads
Please go back to whatever Overwatch thread you came from
Why did Mira inject Phi with rad6?
Why did Diana insist on taking Phi outside?
Don't tell me that was allMIND HACKING
>>343639821
>I see you're keen on getting the last word
Nope, because that doesn't mean anything, and i'm not a toddler. But maybe you are for replying with a nothing response? You did make your point, but I don't agree with it, and i'm not going to any time soon.Now please reply so I can then not reply to prove how little a shit I give:^)
>>343640629
>Why did Mira inject Phi with rad6?
She's crazy
>Why did Diana insist on taking Phi outside?
She loves her and is not thinking rationally
>Don't tell me that was allMIND HACKING
I don't think so, or at least I hope not.
>>343640442
Looks like a character based thread to me, I'm not sure what's going on in other other threads but even if it's exactly the same, we can clearly see that this thread and presumably other threads are pretty healthy with discussion. If this thread was at a complete standstill then you may have had a point, but it isn't and you don't.
>>343640629
Mira injected Phi as revenge for bombing them. Zero told them it was D-Team who planted the bomb.
And Diana can't sacrifice 1 person even if it means killing 6 GORILLION.
>>343640629
>Why did Mira inject Phi with rad6?
Pretty sure Phi's team just blew up Q team so it was just revenge.
>Why did Diana insist on taking Phi outside?
Didn't want to lose her best friend, I suppose.pretty sure that timeline's Diana didn't know Phi was her daughter
>>343640512The reveal was weak especially that they were saying that Delta was you watching around Q Team. I didn't like it.I'd rather have a reveal that a character in-game was that someone instead of what they did. The execution was kinda wack.
>>343640748
If you're the anon who posted >>343639736 then that makes you quite the hypocrite
"Get over yourself" is as about as nothing a response as I can imagine, to be honest with you. Let's not turn this thread into a flamewar because you're upset it exists.
I'm gonna quit with the meta garbage now, I hope you can too.
>>343640629
To get back at the people who set up the bomb and practically kill the whole team
Her good will nature got the better of her and ended up to precedence over logic
I think some of the stuff was MH like
>why did you do that
>I don't know, it wasn't me
everything else was just alternate choices or feelings of the characters in those timelines
>>343640579
>And wasnt there suppose to be a great June plan
I think ZTD was meant to be her motivation rather than the execution of her plan. Young Akane doesn't have any reason to know what the fuck is going on.
But you're right on all other accounts, they dropped the ball a bit when it came to wrapping up plot points.
>>343640240
Carlos pretty much embodies all the traits of a cool best friend,borderline Mary Sue tbqh
DAMN BRAT
>>343640186
>Needed story wise. But, not much else to say.
I swear all the big-titty characters are just there as a plot device and contribute nothing to the overall dynamic between characters.
Is Uchikoshi trying to tell us something?
>>343641907
STOP
>>343641462
but Akane knows what it's going on she says they are there to stop everything
also she is the leader of a secret group but acts like a retard most of the time, without counting all the "you killed junpei!" moments when she should know that those games are always full of these fake situations considering she organized one or two
>>343642034
Lotus was good, but I don't think he was even trying with Alice or Mira
>>343642076
MIND HACKING
>>343638301
>Am I the only one who hates Carlos?
No, obviously.
>>343642192
*BANG*
>>343641013
Following those chain of comments, one anon told you to get over yourself because you're coming across as a bit preachy and snarky, and under the assumption that you're correct and the other anons aren't.
Honestly, telling you to get over yourself is still saying something, that you're acting as if you're above the others in your viewpoint and dismissing the criticisms directed at you, which is true, because one anon specifically said that the threads up are diverse in no way and might as well be in the same thread, and you seemed to ignore that and stated that they allow for different facets of discussion to specific parts of the game, which isn't really true when specific aspects aren't specified in either OP's and they are left open as a vague discussion, so they might as well be on /vg/.
Whereas what he referred to as "nothing response" was pretty much that, you contributed nothing to the argument other than getting in a last word.
Ultimately, both/all of you fuck off with this bullshit and try not to spam up the board with multiples of the same thread. You wanna talk about something specific than do that by being specific in the OP, otherwise check the catalog for general discussion.Now let me go fucking hang myself because I hate meta shit
Phi's dropkicks have had pretty severe impacts on the timeline so far.
>>343642327
The OP of this thread is pretty specific. It doesn't infringe on any other existing threads' existence and to this moment I'm not sure why some people are angry it exists.
>>343642576
every time the camera pans to her ass it's like a gift
>>343637695
Returning cast were all good.
New cast was split between Carlos and Q being excellent, and Eric and Mira being really subpar.
>There is an alternate timeline where Phi is the most useful character.
Guys, we all need to band together and SHIFT!
>>343642848
DON'T DO IT ANON
YOU WILL KILL YOUR OTHER SELVES
THINK ABOUT THEM
>>343642992
I'd rather my current self enjoyed more Phi screentime than imposters pretending to be me.
>>343639178Well Mira killed Eric's mom. Delta knew this and allowed Eric into Dcom.
>>343642848
Phi is born useless. There's no timeline where she contributes.
>>343642992
He'll welcome it.
Ok so the plan is we all take guns close our eyes and begin spinning around and shooting aimlessly.
We'll all get such a fright by maybe being shot that we'll end up here in about a minute without necessarily needing to die.
>>343642735
>Carlos
>Excellent
Jumpei, pls.
_____S
U S E D
_____O
_____O
_____G
>>343642318
this is too silly
>>343643331
She comes up with the idea of using the bomb, creating the VLR timeline, which allows ZTD to exists and Delta and Phi to be born, creating timelines where 2 billion people survive thanks to rad-6 and a single timeline where 8 billion survive thanks to complex mind hacking
>all that sexual tension in VLR
>Phi is his daughter and he loves Luna as another daughter
I'm not sure how to feel about this.
>>343643583
Sounds useless to me
Just managed to get a platinum trophy. What the fuck was that ending? I don't get the whole Delta/Q/Sean thing, why didn't anyone mention him at all?
>>343643548
If she wasn't used then Sigma's dick would have killed her.
All part of the complex plan.
I miss best girl
;_;
Why didn't Sigma grow a beard after 10 months?
>>343638301
>I didn't spend 10 years as a firefighter only to make the wrong choice now
I remember when we all thought he was going to be chad tier and make jumpei more miserable.
>>343643712
Animating the beard would be too COMPLEX
>>343643693
>raped by her ex all the time
Used goods.
>>343638538
>english junpei
>english carlos
>english akane
>english eric
I don't see how anyone could have stood the english voices for more than like 5 minutes
>>343643693
Then hush puppies jiggle
>>343643712
The same reason Diana got pregnant without her abdomen swelling.
>>343640801
They know they are family instinctively, hence phi's electra complex in VLR and the hug with diana and sigma knowing diana is luna.
>>343639430
poor phi, almost all of the final segments take place when she's dead. i had honestly kind of forgotten about her until she showed up again at the very end
>>343643656
Most of his mentions were made to be assumed they were talking about the dog i.e. "We can't forget the old man."
Also most of the shots after votes show everyone looking directly at the camera when talking about it.
Also you can see his shadow in a couple places.
>>343643658
Just leaves Alice and Clover then.
daily reminder that Gab is infected with Rad-6 that's why he is so slow
>>343643712
he's only 22, although he should have some facial hair at least.
If you are still waiting on your delayed Amazon watch pre-order, they are going to send the previous bonus watches to you as an apology for the fuck up.
>>343643693
I also miss Phi.
>>343643927
Alice is the surgeon, Clover was the taxi driver.
>>343643615
>Sigma had 1 waifu
>3 daughters
>2 sons
>1 robowaifu that he considered a daughter
>1 clone that he considered a son
>1 AI that he considered a pet
Best family head
>>343638959
life is simply unfair
LE COMPLEX MOTIVATIONS MAN was literally the worst character and plot twist in the entire series, with Diana being close second.
Alright, where the fuck was this?
>>343643693
>Slut
>Alcoholic
>A little bit retard
>Literally doesnt give a shit about his son
>Best Girl
Sigma, pls.
The whole nonary game in VLR relied on Sigma being stupid enough not to notice that he was an old fuck.
The whole Decision game in ZTD relies on everyone being stupid enough not to care about the old fuck.
Why is Uchihackosi such an ageist?
SEND ME YOUR FAVORITE CUTE DIANA SCREENSHOTS
played on the 3DS and I want HD pc screenshots of my ultimate girl
thanks
>>343644043
He isn't. Remember it affects people of smaller body sizes fasterWhich is why Quark always snapped first in VLRand since everyone in the gameWakes up in 3 hours incrementsGab would've gone rabbid/died by the 3rd vote.
>>343644256
10 M O N T H S
>>343644092
>Couldn't get the original watch in the 10 minute windows happening at 7:14am or 5:18pm from last July to September
>Still need a red VLR watch
Fuck just let me buy it from their site before they become $100 again
>>343640579
>The same can go to Sigma and Phi, sometimes they act like they don't know why they are here.
Gotta agree with you there.
I was looking forward to a wise old sigma getting down to business with a youthful body.
Instead he just seems like a boring asshole who rarely brings anything constructive and just has to argue the other side of Dianna's choicesLike seriously, I can't believe a 62 year old man of all people would want to press a giant ass obvious trap that says DONT PRESS"
>>343644297
Well, he was also supposedly blind/retarded or some shit
>there are people on this board who think the Delta twist was actually handled well
>even though there are multiple moments in Q team where you should be able to see him (since you can see his shadow) but he for some reason isn't there
>even though he's in the archive room during an escape section and you can't see him at all
>>343644256
Looks like when D team sets up the bomb and someone goes in to stop it wearing the protection suit.
>>343644256
Sigma defusing the bomb
Oh right one thing I didn't understand
Why was Junpei different clothes when he was cut into pieces?
I remember doing that puzzle room and saying "this isn't Junpei's arm he wasn't wearing long sleeves"
Was it so I thought that for more shock value???
>>343644256
isn't that diana in the protective suit?
>>343644349
maybe animals only manifest some of the symptoms or Gab was chosen because it is part of the 25% that survives the virus
>>343644482
They could've put the parts in the freezer first to cool down, and then put them back out so they weren't leaking blood all over the place.
>Tfw Eric is Delta's son.
>>343644407
kek
>>343644482
after junpei got iced, did zero come up with a puzzle idea with his body right on the spot?
>>343644557
>not a virgin in her mid 20s anymore
>DURR USED GOODS
>locked up in a bunker for months without sex
>with a person you find attractive
>get drunk
>ask for sex
>HURR WAT A SLUT
Fuck everyone hating on best girl
Does the PC version have a nice framerate to go with the resolution?
>>343644759
Why did Zero include puzzles at all?
>>343638538
I only played with the English voices for a little bit before switching back but C team was just weird to listen to for me because it sounded like Carlos and Junpei's VA's should have been switched around, since Carlos has a more boyish voice despite looking a lot more manly than Junpei.
>>343644407
i saw it coming, thanks anyway anon
>>343644557
would if she asked me to but sigma and her are too perfect, best part of the game
thanks anon
>>343644594
B E S T G I R L
more screenshots pls
The real question is when can we expect the akane cat toy to go on sale?
>>343642848
Let's go and find the timeline where that Phi exists.
Friendly reminder you can write DONNO in the WHO KILLED MIRA question
>>343644837
Fuck off Diana, you were the worst and ugliest character.
>>343644759
he got it from reading the mind of the Carlos that went back 10 months in the past, literally everything is set up that way because of that
>>343644837
I'M WITH YOU ANON
B E S T G I R L
>>343644852
yes
>>343644407
What's up with her eyes? Why do they look like clocks?
>>343644910
I thought the common way of saying it was dunno instead but donno was used quite a few times in VLR.
>tfw I actually liked Carlos' voice a lot
>>343645051
Yeah, it's a meme because Bateman changed them all for donno because "Don't know doesn't have a u"
>>343644837
It was actually weeks and not months but still, people here act like they themselves wouldn't have fallen for Bigma
I'm really dissapointed that the timetravel 3dprinter was used like a normal time travel machine every single time with the exception of the Diana fugs Sigma ending
They could have done so much cool shit like having 10 MONTHS Carlos rescue transporter Carlos so they could interact
Clones caused by time travel are always one of the most fun things that can happen in a time travel plot
>>343644297
>image
Should've included "Life is simply unfair"
>>343645191
fuck you're right that was underutilized
>>343637695
The returning characters although it's tough to say this...I didn't exactly like how they were portrayed either. It probably had to do with the change to the shift to the cinematic style.
I definitely felt like most of the new cast could disappear and I wouldn't bat a eye. Ideally, I'd keep Carlos and would prefer the four open slots to be full of returning characters. The one newbie could then be an element of entropy rather than an amicable, sometimes SHIFT-happy lunatic, dude.
Why didn't Phi just shiftinto her newborn body and tell her parents to kill delta?
>>343645059
I did, too. It suited him and his warm, more easygoing personality.
>>343645045
she's a robot
Yesterday Uchikoshi had like an hour long panel about Zero Escape stuff at the anime expo. Anyone been able to find a video or transcript of the panel?
>>343644092
Proof?
>>343645191
It was the perfect opportunity for someone in the main cast to get sent back in time or fucked over in a significant way and end up planning the game themselves. Instead we got a literally who memelord who was there 'WHORU TAIMU'
>>343645312
>>343645191
There is a possible time line that did happen.
>>343645191
The ending where it explodes after Carlos throws the robot against it is especially bizarre because neither Akane or Junpei got out of the import pods
>It's another narrative trick episode
>>343645524
You are probably knocked out for a while upon using the pods, so the original Akane and Junpei were likely killed.
>the only proof the "8 billion people" die timeline is even real is the rambling of the guy that organized the entire game
>>343645386How does a robot have babies?
>>343644407
anyone else hoping that she'd end up shooting a blank?
>delta lurking around whole time we happen to just not mention it LOL
Fuck this game is worst out of 3 just for that.
>>343645059
Sugita's voice was fucking perfect for him
>>343645729
All but them camera angles and context clues.
>>343645641
In ZE ramblings tend to be the truth.
>>343645729
the bad thing is how no one ever said Sean before but the moment you point out Delta they start calling Sean by name
>>343645401
>Diana realises that the Decision Game has to exist for Phi to exist
>Diana becomes Zero
Bam, she's already willing to kill 6 billion people for Phi. Why not make her Zero too?
>>343645729
They did mention it several times
>>343638301
I also hated Carlos, he was the ultimate Chad whereas I thought Sigma would be in VLR but pleasantly wasn't whereas Carlos fulfilled all expectations of being some hot douchebag with his imouto to make him seem sympathetic. His reveal as a shifter is awful, he makes stupid decisions, offers no intelligent or insightful input, has no distinct personality, just overall so boring and unneeded to the plot.
>>343645729
Sigma as the mastermind was the biggest bullshit twist, though.
>>343638959
What do people want to see in a Zero Escape doujinshi?
I'd make a doujinshi with an equally mindblowing plot to the actual games.
i like the part when eric was using a grenade launcher during a point blank mexican standoff and nobody said anything about it
>>343645897
"Hey, Akane, you're pretty hot"
>>343645864
Its supposed to be an audio trick. To keep the player thinking that Sean is Q
>>343638538
I loved Junpei's english VA. Sounded manly as fuck, and he was chewing the scenery amazingly.
Him and Albert Wesker were the highlights of the game VA wise.
I also liked how Akane's VA managed to switch between cute, crazy as fuck and in control.
>>343645821
English* voice
Wait a minute....
>Aylien pods can send back any item, it just takes longer for humans.
>ten month charge
>item always arrives at the destination
>Akane in VLR KNOWS this exists as she hints sending clover and alice back this way
Why the fuck didn't Akane just take a bottle of Axelevir and put it in the pod then? It would arrive at 2028 and someone would find it, and use it to cure the Radical 6 outbreak.
>>343638301
we love carlos
but we all want to fuck sigma
>>343645897
This. Literally the most boring character of the game.
>>343645963
I liked how they make Sean explode with a grenade at point blank rage and they come mostly unharmed
>>343645994
I understand that everything is set up to keep the twist alive and all but it reaches the point where too many convienent things have to happen to keep the thing working.
So is there just no reason why Akane looks so fucking different?
>>343646116
Its justone coincidence after another
>>343645963
When you shoot nobody and he just fires that shit at your feet I thought he fucked up big time. Kind of dumb how it shows them hiding in the corner afterwards.
>>343646017
>Using the dub for C team
B-baka
>>343646087
>we
Speak for yourself. He's shit.
>>343646127
She is the golden child or zero escape who can't do anything wrong and always has to look pretty and desireable
>>343645956
I want to see Sigma plow his daughter and Diana at the same time.
>>343646127
to complement Jumpy's monochromatic color scheme, that's literally the only reason, don't think too much about it
Should I play these games, and in what order? How many games are they? Can I emulate them all?
I really love Danganronpa 1&2 and the Phoenix Wright series so this seems right up my alley.
>>343646080
Akane is working with Delta, she went to the FtS meeting and she become part of the plot.
As usual she is keeping secrets and manipulating everyone.
>>343646127
Akane only wears brown hair when she's doing Zero Shit. Her pink ponytail is her casual look.
>>343646116
It's another case of "Sigma didn't look at a mirror", yeah.
>>343646127
Plastic surgery.
>>343646087
He fucked used good sluts as a 69 year old inside a twenty something body
He became irredeemably shit
>>343646185
you ever see someone play Worms for the first time and they tap the button with the bazooka instead of holding it? that's what i was thinking when he managed to shoot that grenade and have it only plink on the floor.
>>343646198
>Speak for yourself
No I speak for this entire website
We can all agree this is the worst of the 3, right?
>>343645897
As far as actually getting shit done, Sean, Junpei and Akane were by far the most important characters in the game.
>>343646080
Everyone is a complete retard in the VLR timeline. Akane could've just sent a bunch of killer bots to murder Brother any time she wanted to.
In fact, no one from the VLR cast ever does anything to stop the R6 outbreak, find out who Brother is, or stop FtS. They just want to escape.
Junpei and Seven do more harm to FtS before the game starts than Sigma, Phi or Akane ever did. It's also very telling how all three of them know that Brother is this ultra powerful and wise mega-old esper, and NONE OF THEM suspect the weird blind deaf mega-old guy that's right there with them on DCOM, AKA the place where they know Brother would most likely be.
For 5 days.
>>343645864
Also how the fuck does Eric know Sean's name when not even Sean knew it and needed Zero to tell him?
>>343646270
That doesn' change anything. The "plot" is to stop radical 6. That should be first and foremost.
>>343646263
It's miles better then DR, DR was inspired by ZE.
>>343646270
Wait what was all that stuff with Delta wanting her to go to their ritual anyways?
>>343646263
Yes
999,. VLR, ZTD
Only 999 is emulatable. Also ZTD being made at all is a miracle, please don't be a nigger.
>>343645729
Why would they mention him 99% of the time?
They believe he's deaf/blind/crippled. There's absolutely zero point in trying to interact with him at all, if this is true.
Mira is in cahoots with him, so she has probably been told to not mess with him or divert attention away.
Eric is an unstable moron, who would rather shoot the "outsider" to his group, given that Sean has a bracelet.
Sean has little reason during the game to mention him, but does go back for him+Gab during the yellow button end.
>>343645543
Shu Takumi was right.
>>343646287
but that was actually explained, there are mirrors in VLR and if you analyze them it says they have all been obfuscated or broken
>>343646401
My first though with that was she was going to go and he would talk about ? at the ritual
>>343645829
when? I never noticed but on top of that my issue is he did wear a bracelet so wouldn't they mentioned him when dividing up teams
>>343646387
Zero only say that the boy was called Sean just like him. Sean don't say anything like "oh so that's my name."
>>343646401
The ritual of Free The Soul that Akane took part in will be a revealed during ZE4
Please look forward to it
>>343646127
Some people's hair colors tend to change with age. I think her hair got a more purple-ish flar is she got older, but she died back to her childhood color for 999, because she needed Junpei to fall for her all over again.
That's my headcanon
man that whole friendship monologue at the end of ztd is so fucking cliche and stupid
like, Mira is literally standing right there. she killed some of them in other timelines, is a serial killer, and is basically the reason why everything started in the first place.
not to mention, FRIENDSHIP :-) being used here doesn't look or feel natural at all when, for the past 20 hours, everyone has been separated from each other in groups, with very little interaction with each other.
and I don't think we can call Eric frantically pointing a shotgun at everyone multiple times to be 'friendship'.
i really doubt uchikoshi wrote that and i'm angry at whoever thought that would be even a remotely good idea
>>343646080
Why didn't Akane + crew use the pods in the ending leading up to VLR? It was just written like "I must now make the AB Game. Fuck off Junpei." It would have only been a 10 month wait.
>>343646426
I'll buy ZTD cause it's on steam. I just don't know if I want to buy a Vita just to play VLR.
>>343646478
Yeah, but in a facility like that it's hard to believe there aren't ANY reflective surfaces. I mean, there was water, and one of the puzzles involved staring right into it.
>>343645956A Decision Game puzzle leads to Sigma's dick getting amputated. 10 months with no way to get fucked is too much for the horny drunk Diana to bear, so she SHIFTs to a timeline where he still has a monster dong.
>>343645963
Eric has super speed though. I was expecting Mira to call him a retard for firing that shit once Sean dropped the gun but they managed to make it to cover safely
>>343646560
>>343646293
>>343646209
>>343646256
Then why does she look normal in VLR when she wakes sigma up and the bombs go off, isnt that right after ZTD?
>>343646127
junpei and akane both look so different it's fucked up
>>343646587
3DS version is okay but don't save in the puzzle rooms.
Alternatively, wait for the Steam release of VLR
>>343646605
Uchi pls go
OK, riddle me this Ushitkoshi:
In VLR, Brother was supposed to be some faggot edgelord that wanted to purge humanity because his MINDU HACKINGU powers let him see that people were shit. It set up his reason for releasing Radical 6 as some cleansing holocaust.
NOW, it's him trying to SAVE 2 gorillion lives, and in the true end, he's acting like giving the 9 players the will to save all of them was his keikaku all along. Which is it?
And while we're at it, what was the deal with that seekrit club meeting in April Delta told Akane about?
And while we're also at it, why include Eric in this? At all? What importance does he have whatsoever?
>>343646581
The ending that leads to VLR makes no sense.
She wipes the memory of a dude that is a pwoerful esper devoted entirely to her for no reason, and who could've helped her immensily for no reason, and never even thinks to use the transporter to change the past and undo the horrible timeline.
>I let a serial killer do whatever the fuck she wanted
>I killed the serial killer because she's a bad person :^)
What did he mean by this?
>>343646681
They... grew up
>>343646580
if anything it shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he wrote it because Japs literally don't know how to write endings and the entirety of VLR and ZTD were written an around the shifting gimmick (and he basically admits this in post VLR interviews) so it could only go down the shitter eventually as being wacky and crazy
>>343646116
Pretty much this. While there are hints and foreshadowing it just breaks the suspension of disbelief that Delta is not referred to and talked about in a believable manner.
>>343644404
the truth is invisible
he was literally invisible to the cameras
>>343646354
I'm not really sure what the problem even is. Uchi fucked up with most of the characters of ZTD in one capacity or another. Carlos isn't the sole, or even the biggest, crux of this problem.
>>343646656
retcons are a bitch
>>343646656
That's because she knew "?", as in, us, were looking, and she had to look like she did in 999 because that was the last time we had seen her.
>>343646781
Complex....Aaah I'm tired of this already.
>>343646605
OH, WHOOPS, OOH.
I think we're all missing the most important question here.
https://www.strawpoll.me/10655520
>>343646681
Junpei looks a lot like his 999 self, just hunched over and with a different chin.
Akane looks like a completely different person.
Why were Wesker's eyes purple?
>>343646809
i don't know. he wasn't the lead writer for ZTD; he had two other writers listed in the credits as the same position as him. not to mention that the scriptwriters for 999 and VLR are not the same as the ones for ZTD. i feel like that had to do with a lot of the bad writing here, aside from the budget of course.
>>343646753
The info they had on him was wrong anon.
Sikret Club is unknown
Eric is like Lotus, he's there to find out the truth about his life, i.e. Mira killed his mother, which technically started it all.
>>343646753
The brother plot point is an obvious "gotcha" since it's basically the bad guy not being as bad as you thought he was. Do I find it awful story telling? Yes but then again a lot of ZTD felt painfully rushed so the Zero escape trilogy could final be put to rest
>>343646287
Considering the whole crux of the game is"There a millions of branching timelines where multiple things happen, so we're just gonna re-roll till we get the one we want"
The mirror thing didn't bother me.
Because the rules of that game basically ensure thata timeline where siggy never looks in the water has to exist
>>343646765
she wipes junpei memory because she has to as that is how VLR timeline goes. He gets old with quark and agrees to join AB game to find akane.
it's a paradox, like delta making his own birth.
The real fucked up this is she puts saving the world before being with junpei, where as junpeis primary motivation is just being with akane world be damned.
>>343646603
I thought the same with Ever17 where a character isn't who he thinks he is, but never sees himself in any of the glass or water that makes up 100% of every hallway.
>>343637695
why wasn'tQ-DOG endinga proper ending but a bad end? Especially since it's one of longer game over cut-scenes, if not the longest.
>>343646965
no he doesnt wtf are you blind m8
Just finished the game.
Did anyone else feel Blue bird lamentation was overused? Two or three times would be ok, but it was used like 8 times.
And about the snail storyEric's mom was killed by Mira, they framed Akane's dad and he and her mom ended up dead, and the surgeon that got in the taxi and in the accident was the one that was going to perform surgery on Sean?
Also, noClover, I'm disappointed.
>>343647021
>so the Zero escape trilogy could final be put to rest
You're kidding, right? Not with the way STD ended.
>>343646809
>Japs literally don't know how to write endings
ever17 has the best fucking ending
>>343646681
Yeah for only a year. in 999 they looked young. I can't believe they were 21. I assumed they were college freshman and 18.
>>343646781
Delta cannot shift, so therefore he has a slightly different personality in each timeline. In that one he got angry enough about Sean's death so he strangled Mira
>>343646127
Are you familiar with Mega Man Zero, the third game specifically? The thing there is that supposedly the characters are the same looks-wise, meaning that to the characters of MMZ Zero looks the same as the X Zero, just that the art depicts them differently.
It's stupid line of reasoning, I know.
>>343647048
Yeah, Ever17 is an even big offender.
Honestly they need ZE 4 to undo this.
ZTD is a solid story mired with my opinion, a bad reveal.
>>343646127
Because she is a traditional Japanese girl and brown is too dark. We can't have her being dark like Junpei.
(Black color represents hidden dark side. Chains represent the things that constrict her.)
>>343646753
AND AND AND
How does Delta know about the terrorist if he can't SHIFT? No one else in D-Com did, so he can't have read their minds.
>>343646850
You probably shouldn't have repeated "problem" twice. Anyways, I know. Mira and Eric were annoying as fuck.
>>343647265
makes me upset that I WANT a fourth considering I wanted ZTD to be the last game
hey guys.
I learned just now that Q's name isSean. but when i try to put it inthree way stand off.it just says error.
>>343647397
You can't suicide silly.Try Delta
>>343647105
Especially with the way ZTD ending. Japs literally only know how to write open-ended fauxlosophic epilogues
>>343647265
a ZE4 really should happen
will it, though? very likely not. i'd have more hope if this wasn't advertised as The Final One
i wish this game could get a do-over more than anything, honestly.
>>343647265
>Honestly they need ZE 4 to undo this.
There won't be a fourth game. ZTD is doomed to be a commercial flop.
We're in the timeline God abandoned.
>>343647048
>>343647217
The difference with Ever17 though is that the guy didn't really take it in until he tried to really "look" at himself. If you get what I mean.
>>343647397
You should probably get out if you don't want to be spoiled.
>>343647397
There is a reason for this.
It will make sense later.
Just go back to one timeline and all the others being bad ending that get overwritten by the main one, this multiple everything just makes everything feel pointless.
After 999 it felt like we accomplished something, after VLR it felt like there was a chance to fix things but now what? We created a timeline where things are fine (if we catch the terrorist) but there are infinite timelines so who cares.
Anyone else waited all game for other 999 characters to make an appearance?
>>343647462
>>343647445
>>343647373
in what timeline has this happened before?
>>343645716
It would've been funny but it'd still kill her if the gun was pressed to her head
Why was the dialogue in the escape portions so vastly different from the dialogue during the rest of the game?
Where are the Metal Gear memes guys
>>343647425
lol. i didnt read the spoiler
>>343647495
>>343647508
ok. i'll just keep playing/watching movie. feels bad no more room escape anymore?
>>343647627
You should have given up on that after Junpei's mini plotdump in the Decontamination room
So, /v/, I've been wondering...what happened to Uchi? Did his whole concept of Zero Escape get fucked up or something? Is it like some sort of mix between a wrong idea of what Americans and his fans want and what they care about, along with a shift of his own mindset? I also can't tell if it's an issue of him just having too much on his plate and being unable to properly accommodate it into the medium.
Honestly, I would've waited another two years for something better than this.
>>343647627
h-hey guys remember me?
They should just make ZE4 where they are trying to find the the maniac who plans to bomb the world to oblivion.
Then we can see the return of some 999 characters and maybe some of VLR as well.
YO I GOT HYPED. MAKE ZE4 UTCHI
>>343647626
That's how I feel, they can basically shift as needed to fix any mistake even though it creates new timelines. I also wanted an answer for how they decide to let which awful things happen to alternate versions of themselves which would've been an interesting plot point and logistical issue. Is there a dominant consciousness or dominant timeline that the characters wanted to preserve more than others? Why are they so willy nilly about letting so many alternate versions of themselves die?
>>343647889
get back into the coffin
>>343647831
He blew his fucking load on VLR and introduced too much shit with too little time/money to actually wrap that all up.
I still love ZTD though.
VLR is my favourite in the series, but it didn't need to exist.
999 is my favourite standalone game of the 3.
>Delta was using mind hack to hide himself
>Sean is the only one that can point him out because he is a robot
>after being pointed out the "spell" is broken and Delta can't hide anymore
Is there an official soundtrack for this game?
Or a gamerip of the PC version?
>>343647831
Where would he get the development time and budget from?
>>343647265
you just don't understand the COMPLEX MOTIVATIONS
>>343647336
anyone else have an idea on this?
Seriously, this is driving me nuts
>>343647731
Because there's no time for banter in the new movie-style cutscenes
>>343643693so do i
>>343648069kickstarter
>>343647926
I'd rather get a reboot, Uchi makes the game setup while someone more competent does characterization and story. Hopefully this time without time travel.
>>343646489
They did his name in the game is Q and everyone knew the robot as sean.
Speaking of time and money
Did the special effects in the cutscenes make anyone else laugh every now and then?
>>343648059
But Delta says he can only mind hack for a very short period, so it's still bullshit.
>>343648112
I'm trying to figure it out but I can't. I'm gonna think that the alien machines came with a warning, why else would they send them but to stop the calamity?
>>343647831
He grew arrogant. He started thinking that the producers were limiting his vision when they were keeping it coherent. Without their guidance, he can't keep a story together. It shows that when he doesn't have people telling him what to do, ZTD is what we end up with.
>>343648112
The Older Phi probably shifted into Our Phi's body at one point then came back and told him.
>>343648223
> Carlos going super saiyan
>>343647336
Some shifter shifted back from that timeline and Delta read his mind.
It's the only explanation.
Or he sent himself a note using the transporter. Or the Quantum computer calculated it
>>343647336
He has a quantum computer and unlimited SHIFTer Seanbots
He can pretty much use them as scouts for all timelines
>>343648163
>he thinks kickstarter funds games
it's just used to show investors there is interest.
>>343647046
The real fucked up shit is how she completely forgets about saving the world every single time Junpei dies, just to go "Ah fuck it" in VLR's timeline.
>>343647336
>>343648112
Dude was old as hell. Probably met someone who knew.
>>343648223
Carlos going SSJ God made me laugh.
>>343645871
no they didnt. When?
>>343647934
Yeah, the whole final decision got dumb when C-Team's whole plan was jump around throwing alteenate bodies at problems until things got fixed.
You have been throwing yourselfs under the bus all game, why does it matter now.
So when someone does something uncharacteristic like melting the other teams by pressing the yellow button, this is because Zero used Mind Hack® on them right? Or was it actually Zero just viewing from the perspective of the player (?) who is making them do it?
>shifting now is shown as blue orbs falling from the sky
>>343648069
I know, I'm just saying that I easily would've waited years for it.
>>343647831
>Honestly, I would've waited another two years for something better than this.
Agreed, all I want is a do-over.
As for your other points, there's several reasons
1) Obviously, the budget. VLR had a much better budget because 999 was such a success in the west; VLR was considered a commercial failure, so this one barely happened and didn't have a great budget as a result.
2) Development time. VLR was developed for 3 years; ZTD was developed for about an estimate of a year an a half? Which is uncertain. We do know though that the script was written in one year.
3) Weird and wrong ideas about what the West wants, so the pandering was unsuccessful. Think most would've been fine with the old typical VN formula
4) They watered down a lot of shit in order to try and be welcoming to newcomers, which was stupid as most newcomers won't play this first anyway. Really terrible decision.
5) Uchikoshi is not listed as the Lead Writer in this game; he has two other writers on his level. Also, script writers for 999 and VLR were not the ones that were the script writers for ZTD. It feels like all the new staff additions didn't honestly know what the fuck Uchi's story actually was, so they butchered it. He must've compromised a lot in order to make this game happen.
I can't get mad at Uchikoshi. I've played the Infinity series, consider Ever17 and Remember11 some of the best games/visual novels out there, and 999 and VLR are my favorite story games. I've been a fan of him for years, and some scenes and lines just didn't feel like something he'd write, at all. I do trust him. I am angry at the circumstances more than anything.
Remind me again why so many people here seem to love Carlos? He's as bland as he could get, with far less personality than we would expect from a ZE game, no impact on the overall plot aside fromSHIFTing from one timeline to the other, and even then most of the time he followed Junpei and Akane's plans. He came off quite Gary Stu-ish to me. It's not BAD, I don't think there are any such characters in this game, but I really don't see any particular appeal. Curious to see the reasons why so many disagree.
>>343648132
So why does Phi have the best bantz while locked up in the incinerator
Post favorite songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm7SWtJMWrw
There's just something about Sad Piano songs that I really like.
>>343648450
When you think about it, the narrative reasoning doesn't matter as much, because it's just the player trying all options available to advance the story.
>>343648451
This bothered me more than it should have.
>>343647336
quantum computer allows him to see all timelines
which doesn't make fucking sense as to how he doesn't know WHO the terrorist is
Help me understand one thing please.
There is an ending where we see Sigma and Diana escape while Sigma reassures Diana but as far as I have noticed that's not connected to anything else
>>343648327
She only does that because it's a trope and they don't have clover. Same reason why every game has a big tits esposed girl.
for the last time,deltais invisible to the cameras, but his shadow is visible when he's out of frame
the truth is invisible
>>343648319
I guess this makes the most sense, although I'm still mad that in a game where he ties up possibilities like "you can't use X-Passes from other histories", he can't drop us a line about this.
>>343648482
Because he's a filthy memer just like us
MORE DIANA SCREENSHOTS PLEASE
I need to fill this cruel. sad. and angry void
someone tell me how the fuck to play yu-no offline
>>343648482
His dumb shocked face.
>>343648789
I too am angry over how disgustingly ugly she was.
I mean who the fuck wears clothes like those in the fucking future?
>>343647101
I feel it was used as Sigma/VLR's general theme, so it kinda makes sense.
Much like Morphogenetic Sorrow (piano ver) is used whenever Akane is on screen without a chainsaw or extinguisher.
>>343648352
>>343648301
how come we don't have gifs of this yet
Ok, let me try to fix some of the issues I had with this game:
Before the game starts:
>Kyle jumped back to months before the game started. Santa knew it and was waiting for him
>Present time Akane has no ideia about this, because Santa knows she would against using Junpei in her plans again.
>Kyle is the one who leaks the info about Free the Soul, Brother and Akane's possible location to Junpei and Seven
>Junpei's "underground detective" organization is actually a front for a militarized arm of Crash Keys.
General stuff:
>The coin toss is rigged for you to always fail.
>R6 is released in every single ending except the true and final one
>Brother wanted to clease the world because his mindhacking got out of control as he got older, and there were far too many voices
C ending that leads to VLR:
>Brother tells Junpei that he'll be the caretaker and protector of the one who'll inherit FtS in the future
>Gives Akane the robes and an paper invitation to the FtS meeting
>He then injects both Akane and Junpei with the bracelet mind erasing drug right before Carlos shows up, hence why Akane has no ideia what happened there in VLR, and why she never thought of using Junpei and Carlos, two powerful as fuck espers to help her, or using the transporter to change the past.
D ending that leads to VLR
As you finish solving the puzzle with the two ball bomb, it says that the moment whoever is touching the device takes their hand out of it, it'll blow up, taking out the room, but opening a passage on the other side of the wal to the elevator
>Sigma trades places with Diana, she and Phi leave the room, the thing blows up, Sigma loses arms and eye, the device also had R6 stored within it.
>Phi tells Diana that by taking the elevator they'll kill the world
>"I dont care, I need to help Sigma"
>"I killed 6 billion oh well"
cont
>>343648523>Phi accepting her death in the incinerator
;_;
>No ending whereEric and Akane finds out Mira killed their parent(s)
Uchikoshi is a HACK
What was the reaction when everyone found outDiana was married before
>>343648254
Any time they notice him he just mind hacks himself out of their perception just long enough for them to forget.
>>343648908
She probably got beaten up by her ex when she wore more revealing clothes.
>>343648908
;_; she was still cute
we can't all be perfect
Anyone got a steamaargh mateylink
>>343649112
Those would've been such good pressure points. But no, SHIFT spamming and friendship and MIND HACK reigned more important apparently
>>343648450
>>343648587
I can buy the mind hacking, but I always thought of it like since there are infinite timelines, there must be ones where people act completely different compared to what would be in character. Obviously the player does it for curiousity and to advance the story, so we're shown the histories where the reasons are often not explained very well, since they don't really have to be.
>>343649161
buy the fucking game or uchi will be fired
>>343647731
i want to cum inside phi
>>343649137
Nothing. Well just made me go "oh?" or something. I mean, should I really go "eww" or something for that?
>>343649112
> we never find out carlos is actually dianas abusive x-husband
wtf uchi
>>343649137
i was surprised. you don't expect that type of dark history based on the archetype that you see. really like how uchikoshi writes his female characters, it made her feel very real and not like just an anime character.
>>343649062
>rigged to fail
no it isnt you fucking retard
>>343648789
Sure, as long as you're fine with sharing her pussy.
>>343649137
>welp I guess she's not very cute anymore, phi truly is the master waifu
>>343649337
Has ANYONE gotten three 1s on a roll before the 3rd time?
if carlos survived in the vlr timeline I wonder why he didnt play a bigger role.
>>343648462
The other writers were just responsible for the C and Q routes, along with the escape dialogue. They can't be blamed for the worst of the writing. It was Uchikoshi's leadership.
>>343648268
Kojima syndrome
>>343649337
he's trying to fix the plot as it actually was by making changes, not headcanon resolve the unfulfilled plot threads
>>343649078
That was Blue Bird but damn that was one of the many scenes that made me sad.
>>343649450
He said coin
>>343649137
I was scanning my brain to see if it was possible that this was another character
>>343649450
Some people got it on the second one
>>343649460
That's funny, the general consensus on this faggot hellhole is that everyone hates Eric but I thought he was surprisingly well written with a truly horrifying backstory
>>343649450
I got two ones on my first try
I'm pretty sure you can get all three on your first try, but good luck with that 1 in 216 chances.
>>343648908
I dunno, I kinda liked her layered clothing look
>>343648491
Phi pretty much has the best bantz of all characters, especially with Sigma.
I could play another three whole games of Phi and Sigma escaping rooms while making nothing but snarky and/or deadpan remarks at each other.
>>343649112
Bothered the fuck out of me that we're supposed to treat her like SUPAH JUSTICE WARRIOR in the true ending when all she did was fucking kill people.
Hell, same for Eric, all that fucker did was jerk off a shotgun and slap Sean around. I really get the feeling those two were just slapped in there to round out Delta and Sean's team.
>Even Eric and Mira get a happy ending.
>>343649137
Made me feel bad for her. Was expecting a squeaky clean background for her since she was the most optimistic character aside from Carlos.
Then I cried when Sigma poured his heart out to her and admitted that he believed her when she said happiness could be found in the shelter
>>343649649
Nah, it should rig at least failed roll. Otherwise Akane can't infodump on probability theory.
>>343649521
I thought some melancholic theme like the piano track played during the final exchanges.
Still very sad consideringSigma was forced to watch Phi burn alive in that route
>gatling guns bullets can't pass through bodies
Sure
>>343648482
I think a lot of it is because he's pretty much what he says he is.
He doesn't have some previous backstory of child abuse/being a serial killa/being zero/time shifting
Just a sick sister.
Also I know he can come off as gary stu-ish but honestly I think that's just because he somewhat competently tries to figure things out, compared with the main cast at least. (which is really embarrassing for Akane, Siggy and Phi because they all have a specific reason for being there and should be acting so dumbfounded by the bracelets or the concept of being trapped in this way.
Like when he goes on hisone man shifting mission to save junpei and akane
>>343649705
I feel the same way anon. There needs to be a Phi & old man Sigma mystery solving spinoff series
>>343649460
Source?
D team is the only one that didn't feel bad or convoluted at some point, but that's just me.
That's possible. Maybe a mix of some bad decisions and the constraints of the circumstances.
>>343649831
Carlos is at least ten times denser than an average human
>>343649520
Oh nevermind I cant read then
Sorry
>>343649831
Carlos is buff, and Junpei was powered by the power of love.
>Never calling the Kid anything but "Brat".
>Suddenly goes "What did you do Sean?"
The fuck?
>>343649856
>bantz
>nothing but dad jokes and incestuous quips
i'm not against it i guess.
>>343649796
But it's exactly her talk about probabilities that make me think there's a way to get all ones during your first try, since she mentions how it would be truly miraculous to get it on the first try.
I guess we need to ask or look at the coding to see if it's truly possible, or someone autistic enough to keep doing the rolls until all ones appear on first try.
>>343649856
OLDMAN AND CAIMAN ON THE BEAT
[slap base intensifies]
>>343649856
Carlos = fred
Phi = velma
Diana = daphne
Eric = Shaggy
Sean = Scooby Q
Sigma = Old man Jenkins
>>343649450
I don't see why it wouldn't use the real odds, considering Monty hall did.
>Junpei is more at ease, and does better and more calm use of SHIFTing than Akane, who is a time goddess.
Akane was a mess in this game. Junpei in 5 seconds came up with a plan to save them, meanwhile she was just throwing shit fits.
is Akane supposed to be retarded? she is the leader of a super secret organization and acts as a kid and also acts as she has never been in one of these situation when she organized one in the past and is always ready to go full Clover on Carlos
>>343649724
I haven't watched the epilogues yet, but won't Mira just eventually literally tear his heart out?
>>343649989
When Sigma runs over to the incinerator and asks Phi what she's doing in there and she responds "Cutting my next album, what do you think I'm doing?" I quite almost literally fell out of my chair from laughing
I really hated doing Q Team's fragments.
Didn't like the characters there.
Eric and Mira (although she's important to the story) felt just tacked in just to say they have new characters.
>Phi and Sigma realize that there is a timeline where they fucked.
>They download memories from it.
>>343650090
>>343650118
It's k she's a qt patootie
>>343649864
http://gamequalia.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-98.html
This is the official site of the team the writing was outsourced to. It says Ken Shimomura did the C route and Makoto Yodawara did the Q route.
>>343650090
I will never understand people who don't think her character was inconsistent here. The only part where her character felt consistent and true to how we know her from the end of 999 was in the prologue of the premium booklet.
>>343649856
Siggy & Phido best zero escapes
Huh, someone counted up all the deaths in ZTD, looks likeSigmaGot shit on the most.
http://putodio.tumblr.com/post/146841388208/all-the-deaths-of-you-zero-time-dilemma-edition
>>343650214
>sigma is vlr tells phi he wants to put babies in her
>>343650119
she turned herself in, and eric became her conjugal visit bitch
>>343650119
Goes to jail, begs for forgiveness and they get married.
Sean then breaks her out and uses the transporter to create a tmeline where she doesn't kill Eric's mom, Akane's parents don't die and the real Sean lives.
What is the japanese Sean voice like?
Cause the english version was just a middle aged woman trying to voice a little boy and it made me want to pull my own teeth out.
>>343650119
She should! But shitty writing she magically gains a heart and turns herself in.
>>343650193
Sean was the only good character on the team. Eric's main problem is that he's insufferable for 90% of his screen time. The remaining 10% he seems like a nice enough guy(when he talked about his past and the start of the pod room)
>last thing i need to 100% the game is a puzzle hint to a puzzle that was solved hours ago
something about this is anticlimatic
>>343650271
>sean
>·Shoot by Eric
>·Shoot by Eric (again)
>·Shoot by Eeric (once again)
>·Shoot by Eric (this time controled by Delta)
>·Shoot by Eric (for saying to not fight)
>·Shoot by Mira
fucking Eric
>>343650271
>Shoot by Eric
>Shoot by Eric (again)
>Shoot by Eeric (once again)
>Shoot by Eric (this time controled by Delta)
>Shoot by Eric (for saying to not fight)
Fuck Eric so much.
He didn't really died though right?
>>343650216
>>343650239
I think the implication is that she doesn't want to live in a timeline where Junpei is dead, even if it means that the world is saved.
Basically I think she wanted to live in a timeline where:
>World is saved
>Junpei is alive
>They get married.
She basically manipulated countless people, and risked or even killed many more, just to be with her husbando.
That's some serious Yandereness.
>>343650090
She thinks up a plan to guess the antidote and calculates insane numbers in less time than it takes to grab a chainsaw and cut Carlos up.
Then she proceeds to lose it completely as she sees Junpei on the ground, grabs the nearest fire extinguisher and proceeds to pummel said Carlos to death with it.
It felt weird at times.
>>343650497
Eric was turning into his father, it was tragic.
>>343650217
I see, thanks! Makes sense that they'd have 3 writers for 3 routes to split up the work. The characterization of Akane in particular always felt horribly off, so that makes sense.
Different script writers probably had to do with a lot of the bad writing, as well. And not sure if Uchikoshi allowed these things to pass because a) bad leadership at moments b) time/budget c) compromises so that he can do the game at all d) a mix of all
>>343650426
wow everything turned out okay!
So is there one singular timeline they all want to preserve? Because they just keep throwing alternate timelines under the bus as the needs arise.
Or is it just hackjob writing and none of the events in the game actually matter in the slightest?
>Force Quit Box: D
>>343648482
What are you talking about? People have been dragging him throughout the thread more than love him.
Personally, he's my most boring favorite ever.
>Gives off good vibes in an otherwise stressful situation and team. I actually don't even like most of the other characters. If this was different, then I wouldn't really have given him a second glance. He's like the silver lining of ZTD to me
>Actually stays sane in rough situations while most of the others sperg out. I can appreciate this
>The "10 months" thing was a huge exhibition of his flaws, including his naivety and "saving people" tunnel-vision
>He actually has a lot of hilarious moments
I feel as if he suffered a lot for being another obligatory vector for new players. Having three protagonists (along with the cinematic style) was a mistake, and this is only aggravated by how little development that all the characters got.
TRAP HACK
>>343650584
>>343650607
fucking meme fields
>>343650618
Sounds like Yukari to me :^).
>>343650691
Pretty much
>>343649450
I got really close
>>343650618
Well I mean that's different from OP's point
her characterization really was a mess here
>>343650652
I agree. My favorite Eric part is actually when he unlocks his repressed memory of his dad strangling his brother and Eric starts doing the same to Sean
>>343647731
Different writer
Uchikoshi didn't write any of the escape room dialogue, another writer did
>>343650271
isn't this missing akane with the extinguisher?
>>343650618
She gives no fucks about jumpei's that never got to be with her when junpei is thinking about them. She literally says lol fuck em.
She puts saving the world before junpei
>>343650691
According to VLR, there isn't a single timeline where R6 isn't released, and their entire plan was to create one.
Then this game starts and Carlos creates one by winning a coin toss, and you realize it was all for nothing.
>>343650841
That sent chills down my spine. just the dark forest background and hearing Eric cry as he buried his little brother. Beyond fucked up
>>343649450
The odds get better ever ytime you replay the scene, it's explained afterwards
>>343650907
Just looked over it, yea they forgot to put the fire extinguisher
>>343650217
Wow, this is fucked up. Wonder if Uchi was the one who pulled the plot twists or not.
>>343650987
>buried
he tossed him in the lake
More games need to be multiplat, this thread is 400+ posts old and no one's shitposted
>>343650693
THIS.
I was expecting Diana to pop up the brooch and the bird and put them in the box.
What I got instead was a teary, warm family hug. Fuck the box, it can wait.
>>343650924
I wasn't talking about the different versions of HIM.
I mean she literally wants to be in a timeline where they're together and the world is saved, the other Junpeis and Akanes can go fuck themselves.
The moment the world is fucked she'll throw that reality's Junpei under the bus, and the moment Junpei is dead, she'll say fuck the world. That's why she never even bothers to come back to the shelter in the twins ending.
>>343650937
some people act like this game doesn't retcon what VLR set up and it's like
it literally does
in VLR we're led to believe that we're going back in order to find and create that timeline that exists without radical-6
in ZTD we have one timeline where it exists and gets any sort of attention. just one. and overall it's barely emphasized.
could someone please explain to me how the game fucking works?
I did the execution part with all teams, resulting in Q team dying, then I picked a fragment where I found out that D team was executed, not Q.
So, is there no linearity to this game, the story just goes with which random fragment you pick out? Why didn't my decision matter at all when I fucking saw everyone from Q team dying?
>>343651112
The twists were certainly Uchikoshi's. He was directing the whole game and the other writers. And, well, they're obviously the standard kinds of twists that he uses.
>It's a blue bird lamentation plays episode
Fuck the sound director, almost ruined the song for me
>>343651227
I really think the going yandere is just to keep up a trend with the series because clover isn't there.
junpei would be happy with any time line with akane. he'd be happy as a clam if he got to starve to death with her like sigma and diana.
>>343651248
T I M E L I N E S
>>343651248
anti frustration.
probaly in early development you had to unlock the fragments but they decided that people grew sick of the voting scene and decided that they give you all the basic fragements after you have done voting with 3 characters
>>343650217
>Different writers for different routes
>Some paths are clearly better
Huh, sounds familiar.
What is the origin of radical 6? Where does it come from? It's just in some needles at the base.
At least we can agree that Akane and Junpei are the worst and most selfish characters in the entire trilogy and only 999babbies defend them or cucks with a MUH CHILDHOOD FRIENDSHIP XDDDD meme ingrained in their brain
so who's the biggest asshole in the series /v/
my pick is dio
>>343651656
Has the Emi path author done anything else? He was legitimately talented.
>>343651718
COMPLEX
>>343651718
literally nobody knows
>>343650509
moe!
Instead of the horrible CQD end we got, we should have just got three definitive ends for each team.
>C team
C team confronts brother
Carlos does something stupid
After long winded talk, brother reveals the 8 GORILLION TERRORIST
Akane agrees to help, junpei tries to go with but she says no. Junpei then musters the courage to propose to her right then and there swearing to follow her no matter how dangerous. Akane reluctantly agrees. and they go off to find this terrorist
Carlos goes back home to maria and tells her the story
>Q team
Eric shoots brother with a shotgun
They all leave
Long winded analogies about snails
Mira confesses to eric about his mother
Eric confides in her that he still loves her
Mira tells him goodbye and turns herself in
Sean busts her out and takes her to the transporter room
>D team
Confront Brother
Argue about the radical 6 front
Phi does the running kick to his noggin
leave facility.
Diana ad Sigma go home together,
Years later Happy family life, Sigma ordering a pizza because Diana doesnt want to cook and phi complaining about toping choices when sigma suggests liverwurst
>>343647101
Yes, I think I'm numb to Blue Bird Lamentation. If it was saved for whenSigma and Diana send Phi and Delta through the transporterthen it would have been an 11/10 moment, but I had already heard it like 4 times by that point
>>343651718
Delta probably created it.
>>343651737
I'm sure there's a timeline in which you aren't a shitposting faggot, try SHIFTing to that.
>>343651737
>I have no concept of love
>>343651737
999 practically exists in a separate continuity from the rest of the series. The Akane and Junpei from VLR and ZTD are totally different characters, though at least VLR made their transitions believable.
>>343651738
Snaily the Snail.
>>343651603
Considering there's only one fragment unlocked by forcibly skewing the vote towards a team, I take it to mean that the vote COULD have resulted in any of the fragments unlocked.
Thus, the one fragment you unlock by forcing the vote towards a specific team is a scenario that could only happen if the vote DEFINITELY went that way, instead of just possibly.
In scenarios where the vote could have gone either way, often times the leader won't be able to remember how they voted.
>>343651859
How is that shitposting? Try playing the games, everything Akane has ever done is just for her own gain and Junpei has no problem killing other people for his personal gain multiple times.
While I can understand people's complaints about how it all panned out.
I will say that I think that the coin toss at the start was neat.Having everything go back to that one split in the timeline, and having to decide whether or not to throw themselves under the bus was an interesting moral problem.
Though I was disappointed when everyonedropped that whole moral dilemma as soon as they were free
>>343648451
>carlos goes super saiyan when rider seanbot does anime attacks
I couldn't stop laughing at how fucking stupid that scene was. Why the hell did they think that was a good idea?
This was fucked up.They literally started to play this like it's super meat boy or something
>>343651854
I guess. How is this anon fanatic so fucking godlike he can avoid detection from a quantum computer that knows all realities and makes a mindhacker resort to killing 6 billion for just a 75% chance of getting rid of him but is too dumb to be one of the two billion that survives rad 6?
>There was a snail on the path
Woman, you''re jogging, jump the fuck over it. This all happened because you were a retard snail apologist.
>>343651845
Almost all the moments it was used were good moments, the problem was that it was used in all those moments
You know, I was thinking for a moment at the end that the "final decision game" was going to be you choosing 5 of the characters to kill (besides Delta) so the rest could escape through the X Door. I think it would have been neat if they did that instead.
>>343652012
they are literally Eric and Mira counterparts
>>343651737
They were likable in 999 and presented in a way that was believable. VLR and ZTD skewed them too much the other way, making it hard for me to connect and believe that they're the same characters. I mean, that's partly intentional, but it goes to some extremes in ZTD.
>>343651845
>>343647101
>999's Morphogenetic Sorrow is never used
>Unary/Ambidexterity is only used for Decision Games, barely remixed
>there is no final escape room with every character while a new version of Ambidexterity plays
Like, fucking fanservice faceplant. You think I care about gore, Uchi? I want REAL pandering.
>>343651845
I was thinking:Transporting babiesPhi in the incineratorForce quit box:D hug
>>343639063
Ever17 and Remember11, both were written by Uchi, and both are equal to, or possibly even superior to Zero Escape (in my opinion).
>>343652153
>never fucking thanked carlos who had no real emotional investment at protecting june at all costs
unacceptable.
>>343651248
The fragments you have access to at the start basically have the same starting point from the characters' own POV, which basically boils down to:
- The vote ended at 13:30
- They were put asleep
- They lost all memory between 13:30 and the time they're in
- Oh god, I have to get out of this room
For all starter fragments, you don't exactly know where you are in the timeline until the end of it. When you start getting the complete picture (literally, as displayed in the timeline), things get interesting.
As some point the timeline reorders itself, too.
>>343649831
>implying mere bullets can penetrate the thickness of a superior nippon body folded over 6 billion times
>>343645339
8 billion lives
>>343650784
KUYASHII
>>343652190
My guess is that the terrorist still hasn't thought of that at that point and Delta knows about this because the alien pods came with a warning of the bad future, why else would they send them?
>>343652210
>Life is so unfair.
More like goddamn woman just jog over it or something holy shit.
Eric's mom is the real mastermind.
Anyone have spare Junpei/Akane and Zero Steam cards?
>>343648451
I don't think it was the best way to show shifting but I do agree that we needed some sort of visual indicator for it
>>343651112
>fucked up
Agreed. I know Uchi had to make a lot of compromises, but now that I'm learning that he didn't write a lot of the game - plot twists aside - I genuinely feel foolish...not that I wasn't already after finishing the game. This is just an extra layer of it.
At least I only begun waiting for ZTD four months ago.
Anyone else not actually want jumped and akane to hook up? I always wanted jumped to get a "Goodbye" instead.
I really wish Mira and Eric died or was killed for the true ending because fuck them
>>343652294
morphogentic sorrow is used multiple times. It's C teams blue bird sad song.
I'm just glad ZTD was made. I mean sure the ending was lackluster and left a lot of plot holes but the ride was intense and they managed to put this together on so little a budget. So overall I loved ZTD, even if it wasn't my favorite in the series. It had the best characters in my opinion.
Seriously, Clover was annoying in 999 and then not only was she back in VLR they brought Alice the "Sweetie (:" betraying bitch. I'm glad we were given new good characters, like Carlos and Diana.
>>343652451
Well that kind of happens in VLR anyway.
>Love these games
>Love the story
>become so involved in the story I stop giving a fuck about puzzles, just following guides so I can get more story faster
I'm glad they took puzzles out of the 999 Mobile port, puzzles are the worst part of the series
>>343652406
No, no, it's the snail's fault. The serial killer waiting around for someone whose heart she could rip out was just pulled in by fate.
I was really hoping we could jump to the 999 events in one of the timelines.
Is no one going to mention how the ayy lmao transporters were the single most egregious use of deus ex machina in commercial fiction?
>thousands of times where Eric lowered the shotgun during his insane rampages
>nobody had the balls to tackle the fuck
It's baffling how such a terrible character can be written, literally no redeeming qualities.
>>343652346
he was too busyproposing to the gal after she had seen his shredded to bits body
just what the fucking fuck
>>343652294
The piano version was fine. See also >>343649003
>>343652596
Everyone has
In every thread since the cia was leaked
>>343652541
It's funny how Mira is a better person in the game than fucking Alice.
>>343652654
Junpei has shit taste in jewelry by the way. Where'd you get that, from a cereal box?
>Pre-ordered the game more than a year ago
>Pirated the game day 1 and played through it
>Amazon still hasn't shipped it and I'll probably never the watch
>>343652415
I got 3 "Team Leaders" cards. At least there is no badge for this game.Not sure if that is better or worse.
>>343652596
it's just a fax bro
>>343652579
Eric please leave, nobody likes you
>>343652327
>Ever17 and Remember11
>Superior to ZE
WAAAAAAAY too slice of life-y and CHICKEN SANDWICH to be remotely enjoyable. Only the ending is good, and you have to sit through 4 mediocre endings just to get to it.
>>343652723
are you retarded?
TELL ME ABOUT SEAN
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK
>>343652723
Nope, there is
>>343652153
>the bar counter didn't stop the bullets
>but their bodies did
What a load of bullshit.
>>343652432
I would have gone with eyes flashing blue for a moment.
The consciousnesses is traveling through a dimension we can't observe.
Having a hadoken physically moving through the air is a bad way of representing that.
I can live with it though, doesn't ruin the game for me or anything.
>>343652294
>>343652674
To append to my previous answer, I do agree with not liking the lack of final room. It felt disappointing.
I expected a big puzzle mess like in the previous two games.
>>343652784
Eric's Dio only not evil; I liked him.
>>343652825
>>343652846
When I checked yesterday or 2 days ago the "View badge progress" button didn't appear in my inventory. Thanks for confirming it.
>>343652528
They never used this version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQfY47pFNs
This was supposed to be the final ZE game. The ending. 'Bam, we're done, wow that was cool.' Music plays a big part in tying things together emotionally. If you don't understand that, never work on a series.
>>343652446
Not to mention he probably had to adapt the story to get fixed to western audiences with some bad ideas about what the West wanted, along with budget and time constraints
such an unfortunate mix of circumstances and had they been different, i think we would've had a conclusion that was satisfying and true and great. that doesn't happen for a lot of games out there, i feel, and it's really sad this one couldn't get it.
I think I finally have this figured out.
>like 999 more than VLR
>Sigma and Phi have better story in ZTD
>>343638354
This.
Sean is easily the best.
>>343652839no face
>>343652446
People are taking the game too seriously. It was tongue and cheek and more of a fun wild ride than a genuine attempt to wrap up everything neatly. filled with paradoxes, bad endings just to do something fun, meme bait the game has a broken story but It seems self aware.
The real place it falls flat story wise is in the banter during escapes and not mixing up teams so they can develop off each other like in 999 and VLR
>>343652851
THE FUCK!?!
>>343652983
>This was supposed to be the final ZE game
and it wasn't. because life if truly unfair and we were given the game we needed not the one we wanted.
>>343652153
>x-passes from alternate timelines aren't applicable
i felt sweet schadenfreude at junpei's outburst then
>>343653009
It fine as long his lower parts are there.
>3 suits of armor
>Not one of them thought to each get behind a suit of armor that CAN'T TURN during the crossfire
Real smart jumpy.
>>343653014
what do you mean people are taking it too seriously
people were promised that most things would get tied up, and you naturally expect that in such a story heavy game like this one. that's just how it works.
and it really doesn't seem self aware. never got the hint of that.
>>343652596
it's not a transporter, it's a COMPLEX 3D printer that receives info from the morphogenetic field
>Stuck on flowchart
>Didn't think of letting "who killed Mira" timer run out
I'm a retard
I'm sure Uchikoshi has released a perfect ending to ZE in another timeline.
How do I shift?
>>343652979
http://www.steamcardexchange.net/index.php?gamepage-appid-311240
here's the badges if you want to know what they are.
>>343652851
Carlos is so dense that it translated into the actual physical property known as density
>>343652706
An abusive serial killer with no redeeming qualities or reason for her actions is a better person than the government agent who allies, gets betrayed, and dies in every single timeline but one? Just because Alice betrayed Sigma, she's a worse person than the one who decided to cause the Radical-6 outbreak just because it would be "interesting"?
>>343653328
same thing happened to me, because eric killed me like 20 times, I assumed he'd do the same if I let the timer run out
So when they SHIFT to another timeline to save themselves, what stops the alternate timeline selves from just SHIFTing back and starting an eternal loop of SHIFTing back and forth?
>>343653328
Don't worry, I was stuck on the same thing for a while.
>>343653330
>Gab has a puppet
well that's neat
I like VNs as much as the next guy but the times where the animation and directing actually clicked... I think I preferred the movie scenes.
I'd like to see a fresh series built from the ground up that uses this style.
But I doubt they'd ever get a budget where they could do it justice.
To give them credit though, the models were pretty nice.
So umm, why didn't Carlos let Akane and Junpei die, and then jump back to his past before he put the alternate timeline X-passes, and just used the correct Junpei and Akane passas from that same timeline, but from the future?
They could jump to their own past, right? Not just to different timelines?
>MFW finished the power room puzzle to walk in a room with a screen sayingRules of the AB Game
>>343652591
I was thinking yesterday if junpei and akane could have just shifted into the 999 timeline in order to escape
>>343653330
>only 3 backgrounds
fuck everything
>>343653329
Time to persona 3 it up.
also Akane had no problem with making a reactor explode and kill D-Team with it too
but apparently pointing out she is an asshole makes you a shitposter in these threads
>>343653330
>nyakane in swimsuit
>>343653464
Because they shift right at death's door, when the other consciousnesses won't have time to even realize what's going on
>>343653514
Maybe the intercom would stop announcing X-Passes since they tried to use ones from alternate timelines.
>>343653195
Probably the most tense I felt playing that game.
Theevil black robot in hindsight was pretty laughable
But it kinda gave me a little Ghost Trick vibewith the game being aware of your actions
>>343653329
You gotta become the fanatic, man. Bring the SHIFTers together.
>>343637695
Everyone was great except for Eric and Mira. Especially Eric.
Why didn't Junpei just shift to his 999 self, and met up with Akane, and briefed her na dAoi on everything, and then they could've spent the last year chasing and stopping brother before any of this happened.
Like, was there any point where they decided that they could just shift within the confines of this single incident?
>>343639063
Yu-No , a time-travel related game released in 1996 and there's a 2011 Translation of it fully voiced. First game ever to use a Flowchart.
>>343638294
>4
>Delta is the 4th letter of the alphabet
UCHIKOSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
what the fuck. they had sex. also, im barely looking when it showed the date. what's thetwins birthday again? 11/??/29
>>343653195>Write down all the x-passes
>They don't actually matter
UCHIKOSHI
If Akane, Sigma and Phi could shift, why didn't they just jump back to DCOM the moment they found out who Brother was, and went HEY BLIND DEAF OLD MAN, YOU'RE BROTHER AREN'T YOU?
wait.
so is it implied that delta was in the cell with everyone at the coin toss, just out of frame? but then who was zero?
>>343653775
eric and mira are just akane and junpei without fanboy's glasses shielding them
>>343653779
They never established why they couldn't just get out of the games, yeah. However, with that line of thought and infinite timelines, there's basically no reason for anything.
Just something you have to accept with time travel stories, I guess.
>>343654020
wasn't there, showed up afterwards
yeah
>>343648862
Very similar to Zero Escape games, Yu-No has this Flowchart system where you keep items when you go back in time to let you visit other branches. A 1996 game translated in English in 2011 by a group.
Protagonist is the same voice actor as Adult Link from OoT.
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>>343653014
The real thing that bothers me that the few things that it does wrap up were done so in such an unpleasant way, paired with how so many of the most interesting concepts/ideas were dropped or even outright denied.
While it feels like VLR left a lot of fun things to think about, ZTD just felt like it closed a lot of doors without leaving any pleasant lingering ideas. At least it's not the same level of sequelbait, but still...
it is unfortunate.
>>343654020
that was never implied which is why carlos said "I know... you are..." referring to delta
>>343654020
I don't think so. I don't think there was anyone other than Delta wearing the Zero suit. That would be why he shows up in front of everyone there, but in recordings elsewhere.
As for why nobody would find it suspicious that the old man was gone when Zero appeared, then came back after he left... mind hacks?
>>343654183
Every time someone mentions a voice actor of Link I feel like I'm getting bullshitted.
>>343653967
I realized quickly that the x-passes didn't match up, so I stopped writing them down after a couple of announcements.
IF YOU DIDN'T CRY WHEN SIGMA AND DIANA FINALLY HUGGED PHI AFTER REALIZING ALL THAT SHIT THEN YOU'RE A MONSTER
>>343654316
except it's true, I could point it out better
>>343654353
I didn't.
I was more moved by the ring scene with Junpei and Akane.
Just finished the game yesterday, and I'm amazed by the amount of clues and foreshadowing.
ENDGAME SPOILERS:How Q's wheelchair shadow can often be seen in Q-Team outside the camera.
>>343654313
They were given the drug that makes them lose their memories after the coin toss, I think
>>343654501
>I was more moved by the cliche moment
Cringe
>>343654313
>As for why nobody would find it suspicious that the old man was gone when Zero appeared, then came back after he left... mind hacks?
Carlos did find it suspicious.
>>343654282
>>343654170
i forgot that they got their memories erased nevermind that makes sense now
>>343654731
You say that like the hug wasn't just as cliche.
>>343654353
scene where they hold hands is better. Phi is just a normal little girl
>>343644161
>>343654501
The worst moment in the game? That scene made no sense other than serving as an awkward proposal.
>>343654501
But that was absolutely awful
>>343647101
I thought Sean was Delta's step-brother from the early 1900s?
>>343654731
I felt it was odd that Phi instantly realized what was going on.
>>343654796
I didn't shed a single tear throughout the game, and more often than not I was questioning the the characters' actions(having babies while not having food? how cruel can you get?).
>>343654973
No, Sean isn't Left. Sean comes from the same time period as Mira's serial killings. Left is just irrelevant.
