They actually killed him! The absolute madmenPost best moments
>>343623332
But you could... y'know... buy the game. It'll play a legit cart
I posted this for COMPLEX MOTIVES.
>>343623343
The Boy and the Ring
>>343623709
First fragment I did. Injected and saw Eric's backstory. Knew I was in for a ride.
>>343623865
there was actually some anon complaining about that plot being wasted and yet i loved it because it tied in perfect into the "life is unfair" theme.
it was impossible forcarlos to know akane and junpei were still in the pods. at least theyretained their memoriesin the end.
So what happened during the panel yesterday? Just the 999 VA thing and a bunch of question dodging?
>Any time Eric is talking about his shitty backstory
>You have to look at that stupid fucking table or that icecream store
>While the worst music in the series plays
>Can't click spam through it have to listen.
I hate it every fucking time. Second only to door opening scenes in VLR
>>343626326
You can fast forward never before read stuff if you checked the box in the options.
>>343626503
Didn't want to risk missing good shit with an accidental click
>That empty feeling when the game is over.
How long did it take you guys? 21 hours here
>>343627440
22, but I got stuck for a while with both the executions and the name choice with Eric.
It was kinda sad when I realized just how quickly I beat the entire game.
I'm still disappointed thatPhi being Diana and Sigma's childwas true. I would have much preferredSigma and Phi ending up together. Their chemistry was too good
>>343627563
I got stuck with the executions too. In all 3 betrayals for the first time I had Q team die. Even when Q team did the betraying
Coming into this game I didn't think I'd enjoy not playing as Sigma or Junpei but I enjoyed both Carlos and Diana. Q team can get fucked though. It was always a chore to play with them. Eric a shit. A SHIT.
>>343623343
>Start to play zero escape 999
>Shortly find out I can only unlock the true ending by doing certain set path, beating the game once, then doing a different path only after that
Man, I hate the "true ending only unlocks after your first playthrough"
Are the other games in this series different?
>>343627873
Maybe if you didn't play VNs based around time travel and multiple timelines you wouldn't need to play the game multiple times
>>343627873
They're different enough.
Still not sure how I feel aboutmindhacking. Like, I get it, he wanted to make Blick Winkel a character of his own this time, but it just felt so sudden, like there was hardly any buildup to it.
>>343627873
>playing for the true end
>not seeking out every ending
People don't actually do this, right? Just play a VN for one route and drop it?
>>343627873
You don't have to redo things you've seen already much in the other two and instead you have to do lots of paths to unlock the true end.Finish 999 first though, because it gives a justified story reason for it in all games
>>343628024
What are you on about? Almost every D team route mentionsnot knowing why buttons were pressed. Even Carlos says this in the contamination room
>>343627598
I was disappointed too, I was hoping thatPhi and Diana would end up being sisters or something, explaining the hair color
>>343628010
>>343627941
Ok, I'll probably finished this one though still.
>just got to the part where ace puts himself to sleep to get left behind
>Shortly after passing through the door it dawned on me that 1+2+9=12=3
I don't know what this means but it can't be good.
>>343628214
The second play through is easier because you can skip all read dialogue.
>>343624790
More or less
>So what happened to Kyle?
>Good question, who can say?
YOU CAN MOTHERFUCKER, IT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU
>>343628050
If there is a true route, that's the only one that matters and is most of the time the most well written with the best climax.
>>343628685
Sub ending was good. Safe ending was good.
Axe ending was trash.
>>343628685
wrong
if this is how you read visual novels plz stop, you are missing out on half the story
I just beat the game.
I don't know what I think about this.
I guess Uchi did deliver on his promises. Everything I can think of is explained. There's no loose ends.
But what did you guys think? Live up to expectations? Not good enough? Better than the previous games?
>>343628685
Yeah, but the safe ending was probably my favourite in 999
>>343628829
Probably my least favorite, but that isn't saying much as they're all great. I don't know why people expected every single thing answered, because what series fully does that? I guess it speaks to the rabid fanbase; it's a double edged sword.
Fave twist was the wards. It was obvious as fuck, but I didn't realize until it happened and it caused me to scream 'Oh, shit, oh, fuck' repeatedly at my screen
The only thing that is missing in ZTD is a final escape room/puzzle.
Also, I would love to see Carlos back in a new game.
>>343628829
There's a lot of things that Uchi promised that wasn't in the game. Off the top of my head, one of the big one sis that Kyle is nowhere to be seen and not even mentioned in the game, despite the fact that VLR's ending had Akane mention that Kyle had a "very important role" to play in it. When fans asked Uchikoshi about this yesterday he just laughed and brushed them off.
Still hoping he'll give us actual answers in his usual post-game Q&A/FAQ.
>>343628753
>>343628931
Safe is necesary for the true ending though. Sub is good, but the rest are shit.
>>343628753
>>343629209
Axe ending is good too faggots. Only the knife ending is underwhelming as hell
>>343627440
what.? im 21 hours now and i still got like 5-7(?) fragments locked.
>>343629305
3 fragments arethe exact same eventand the other 2-4 could be non puzzles.
>>343629154
Good point, I realized there are quite a few unanswered questions after posting. I wonder if Uchikoshi didn't explain those because of time/budget constraints or because he didn't want to or for another reason? Here's to hoping he'll explain in that post-game FAQ.
Did anyone get the ZTD watch? Is it any good?
>>343629081
The sudoku in 999 was by far the highlight of the game, I don't know why Uchi stopped putting gameplay in the true ends
>>343629638
No one has got it at the moment as far as I know since Amazon fucking up the transport.
Last time I heard they will send the watch somewhere on the second week of July or something.
Has anyone got the screenshot ofseanasking if he should take his clothes off?
>>343629758
Really? I've seen that shit up on Ebay already
>>343629805
The watches were sold at anime expo for $50
>>343629948
Shame there wasn't one around here. I'm not paying $100+ for a watch
>>343629948
Will they be selling them online anywhere or am I fucked.
>>343630062
You can always buy online for inflated prices
I'm guessing others have asked this before, but is there nothing left after the Payoff 2 ending? It was thoroughly disappointing.
>>343630062
From akays dan twitter, he said aksys would eventually sell the watch on its own and rerelease previous watches for sale
So I just got this for the vita. First time playing a zero escape game.
Am I fucked story wise or idiot good stand alone?
Might buy the rest regardless
>>343630184
Files
>>343630210
play the other games first
>>343623709
I'm confused by the rad6 explanation. What's this about genetics?
>pick a random fragment section
>ends up being trash disposal room with sigma and dianna
>solve the puzzle
>at the end decision game asks for a password
>i don't know shit so i assume i need to do other fragments or something
>go to team select area and all the fragments gone besides the trash room one
What do? Man i fucking hate the whole system and UI compared to VLR.
>>343624790
Anybody know if Uchi will appear again in the next Aksys panel? I want to plan ahead.
>>343630470
Did you see all the executions?
>>343630470
Check the global flowchart for (!)s
>>343630250
Thanks. It didn't occur to me to check the files. Still disappointing not to get a proper epilogue other than in text.
>>343630630
What'd you mean? All i saw was Team Q executed and another situation with all teams saved.
Other members died due to something else but only had Team Q actually executed.
>>343630667
I can't hop in to other parts as they're all locked on the global chart.
>>343630905
You need to see all the execution scenes.
Anyone else tried to blame it on Gab?
>>343630905
You need to see all team executions, jump to where the vote occurs, vote and do this for the two teams... Obviously vote for C team and D team twice to get it
>>343630981
Then how does a nigga go back.
>>343631023
Who did it in that timeline anyway?
>>343631132
Go back to the parts where you push the button and just pick the opposite of what the note says for the different teams again.
On the global flowchart, there are death symbols just above the main pile of branches, it should show all the ones you're missing.
>>343623343
You know Delta reminded me of a big internet troll.
Fucking mindhacks other people into killing himself like the one where he influenced Carlos to kill Q team.
Also at the end he's like
>Hahaha, what're you gonna do? I'm behind 7 timelines you can never call the cops on me!
I just fucking love his troll character.
>>343630981
>>343631109
Oh don't worry about it, found out all i had to do was press O in the decision situation and all the fragments came back. I usually exit in the middle of the decision.
>>343631334
You should know that... It starts with a D and its a greek letter
While playing 999 I always felt like there was a single timeline and the other braches were what ifs just there to aquire knowledge allowing you to go back and do the right choice in the primary timeline thus avoiding those bad endings from happening
Kinda sad now that there are multiple timelines where everyone is dead, it makes create a "perfect ending" world kinda pointless
>>343631862
because that's what happened
in 999 there's only one timeline
>>343631862
That actually was the case in 999.
Child Akane was looking into the future through junpei's eyes using MIND HACK to make him choose things searching for the perfect timeline in which he solves the sudoku puzzle so that she can save herself.
Only in VLR when Sigma and Phi shifted did they bother having multiple timelines.
For all intents and purposes 999 was just akane brain storming and looking into the future for the perfect combination just so she could survive.
What if Yoko Taro and Uchikoshi teamed up to develop Nier 3?
I really wished eric died and mira got what was coming to her.
>>343631407
>>343631434
Yeah my bad I forgot that.
>>343632496
With the multiple possibility games are the results fixed for everyone or random?For the gun my first shot was a blankFor the poison the antidote was ADice was a failure
>>343632618
Yep to all 3.
>>343631346
I like to think Delta really was a senile old man and Gab was the true mastermind. Gab, leader of FtS, used alien technology to go back in time and experience all the timelines. He shifts into the force-stop timeline and the mass amount of information brought through the morphogenetic field somehow leaks into Deltas senile old brain and kickstarts his disabled body into moving around again. He starts yelling at everyone about his complex motives and mind hacks and kills Gab, saving the day.
>>343632618
It's random.I got the dice on my third try, how about everyone else?
How many events are actually dictated by RNG?
>>343632776
Everyone has it on the third try.
The dialogue even reveals that. Akane saying that getting it on the third throw is still miraculous.
>>343632618
My first shot was a blank too
My first antidote was E or something like that. The solution also changed when I went back to get the bad ending.
I got the dice roll on my third try
>>343631926
>>343632040
I see, that does make sense
>>343632776
That happens anyway.
>>343632835
That's what I figured, but it's not like Akane was supposed to know
>>343632840
How about the monty hall choice?
>>343632817
I want to say none are RNG but I could be wrong. The coin toss is absolutely not RNG. This is shown when Akane explicity states that getting all 1s after 3 tosses isn't that impressive. Unless somebody in this thread says they took more than 3 tosses then it wasn't RNG.
As for the gun scene; I'm pretty sure I saw all 3 different scenes in a row with no scene repeated. The two bad outcomes and then the good outcome.
>>343632985
I am certain that switching is always the correct answer since that's the entire premise of the Monty Hall problem
>>343632817
The gun was a 50/50 chance
The mask was 90/10
The dice were scripted
Don't think there were any other RNG elements
>>343632985
Oh shit. I just remembered that the lockers decision might have been RNG. The numbers were different each time AND when I picked same locker twice, it was wrong the second time. Which makes that achievement "figured out the monty hall problem!" pretty stupid considering it's luck based.
>>343633057
The coin?
>>343633052
Nope the text in the game said that you still has a small chance to get it wrong by not switching.
>>343633057
The poison repeatedly changes. My first one had no tongues go numb so it was obviously A which was lackluster as fuck.
>>343633149
That was also my first time it was A because nobody was numb
>>343632618
I really think there were NO random sections in the game.
>>343633057
The antidote decision is randomly generated.
My first one has everyone feeling numb on their tongue. While, the second one has none. I saw someone playing that two has theirs feeling numb while one doesn't.
>>343633110
Blue is always the correct answer isn't it? I got that on the first go which made for a disappointing trip to the credits
>>343633110
I think your first choice is always the correct one
>>343633097
>figured out the monty hall problem
>luck based
If you knew how the problem worked you would know you had a 90% chance of opening the right locker by switching
>>343633249
No I picked red and it was the correct answer the first time.
I think it just becomes what your very first choice was.
>>343629074
>it caused me to scream 'Oh, shit, oh, fuck' repeatedly at my screen
You should become a youtuber
>>343633326
I did it a third time and the side changed
My biggest gripe with any ending is the lead up to the VLR based one whereyou're setting up the timer. Now you think yeah set that shit to 30-60 seconds and run and you'll be safe. For no fucking reason at all they set that shit to 5 fucking minutes. Then when they get all the way to the other end of the ward Phi says they have 4 mins 20 seconds left. What the fuck. No one could overestimate the distance of the ward that much. You'd be fucking blocks away with a 5 min timer.
>>343633260
Thanks for explaining how it works so that I and others might know. Oh wait, you didn't. With my basic math and logic skills, I see it as 10% chance at first and then 50% chance with 2 lockers left.
>>343633249
The game is rigged.
You always get it right the first time no matter what you pickso the casts can SHIFT to that part later on.
>>343633217
My first was Junpei and carlos, and then I messed up on the second one because I didn't know it switched then the third was Akane and Junpei.
So fromDelta'spoint of view, he grows up raised by researchers, eventually meets someone who he learns the future from(Possibly K and thats why Akane said he was important? The "Truth" Akane learned at the Free the Soul rally could have ade her know they needed to get K back to the point where he would trigger Delta's plans)
So he works his ass off building a cult, and the Dcom Facility is a giant black box. This black box is an enclosed environment that creates timelines to1. Support his own birth 2.Unleash radical-6, saving the world from extinction and enabling the time SHIFTers to come back from the future 3.Create a known timeline where the terrorist is most likely stopped.
Now why does he give a shit about confirming a timeline where the terrorist i caught if he knows there are infinite timelines?He can't SHIFT and live through those good timelines, however he can download info from peoples brains and essentially "become" the Delta the others knew. This ties in with the whole "Is it the conciousness or memories that make the man?
>>343633446
Fuck that noice. I wouldn't take any chances too
grab all the fucking furniture and heavy items
build a fucking fort at the complete other side of the facility and then set the timer at 5 minutes.
>>343633498
>With my grade school math and logic skills, I see it as 10% chance at first and then 50% chance with 2 lockers left.
FTFY
>>343633498
When you first pick you have a 90% chance of getting it wrong
When Zero opens up 8 lockers that are guaranteed to be empty you are left with 1 final locker: If at first you got it wrong (90%) then switching gets you the mask, but if you got it right first time (10%) then switching will make you lose.
>>343633658
>still no explanation
You're talking about yourself, right?
+1 def
>>343633057
What about the puzzle rooms? I could swear people got different numbers in alien algebra.
Considering they had Delta go all the way back to 1904, I'm surprised the series never went back to the start and turned it around to the Titanic again. If Baby Delta was sent to April 1904, then it means he could have been a survivor of the Titanic - he would have been 8 years old at the time.
Though that makes me wonder why it was so hard not to just have him had gone to 1903 so he'd be 9 years old during the Titanic, for pure pottery.
>>343633796
Nah, it's the same.
Only decision games have RNG.
>>343633701
>If at first you got it wrong (90%) then switching gets you the mask, but if you got it right first time (10%) then switching will make you lose.
Yeah... I still don't understand how it's not 50/50. Neither of the 2 remaining lockers should have any kind of advantage or disadvantage. It's only 90% chance to be wrong UNTIL 8 are opened and then it's 100% divided by the amount of unopened lockers.
>>343633596
Yeah, but I feel like it should've been Akane instead of Delta.
She was the original MIND HACKER in 999. And couldn't jump as well (otherwise she'd just jump to another timeline from the incinerator one)
There was NO reason to use Delta. They could've just replaced Delta in ZTD with Akane and the entire story could've been the same.
With Akane being Phi's sister and Sigma+diana's child.
anyone else kinda disappointed that Sigma isn't as goofy as he was in vlr
I get why but he was still pretty funny before
>>343633596
Shiiit this is a good theory. Way better than the Eric dating his mother's killer theory.
>>343633796
alien algebra had the same numbers to the cards every time. The symbols themselves even had clues to what numbers the represented that some people didn't realize until after they had already figured it out the long way through using the game for trial and error.
>>343633915
> isnt as goofy
>>343633864
You can actually FEEL the difference in chance if you pick a bigger number.
For example lets say there are 1000 lockers. You pick 1 randomly. I open 998 locker doors.
You can actually instinctly feel that it HAS to be in the locker I didn't open yet.
The same is the case with 10 lockers or 3 lockers. The chance difference just gets smaller at smaller number of doors so it's harder to recognize.
>>343633864
>You pick the wrong locker (90% chance)
>There are 9 lockers left, 1 has the mask in
>Zero opens 8 that are guaranteed to be empty
>Therefor the last locker that he didn't open and you didn't pick is guaranteed to have the mask in
>>343633864
You are the Eric of this thread aren't you anon?
>>343633596
How is K relevant?
>>343634026
>You can actually instinctly feel that it HAS to be in the locker I didn't open yet.
Sorry to say but I felt that I was being fucked with so I stuck with my original choice and the gas mask was in there. I'll gladly read more about the Monty Hall problem to see why switching gives you a better chance but at the moment it makes zero sense.
>>343634091
>Therefor the last locker that he didn't open and you didn't pick is guaranteed to have the mask in
>guaranteed
That goes against what happened when I stuck with my choice.
>>343634135
>That goes against what happened when I stuck with my choice
That means you got lucky and got it right first try with a 10% chance
Does that still get you the achievement?
I'll marry Carlos!
>>343634224
Yes, I got the achievement. I don't get why I got it because I don't feel like I figured out shit. When I redid the scene to get it wrong, I also stuck with my original choice and the mask wasn't in there.
>>343634026
Yeah this, it makes more sense with big numbers but when is just 3, like in the original problem, it becomes more difficult to decide because there is a higher chance of getting the right door from the start.
>>343633596
If you really boil it down, the entire VLR timeline was created just to cause enough time fuckery that Delta could kick himself into a comfy timeline.
>>343634135
Look at the start of his greentext there. He's saying that it's guaranteed to have the gas mask if you picked the wrong locker, which you will do 90% of the time.
You're confused because you happened to have picked the right the first time, and you aren't grasping that while it did happen for you, there was only a 10% chance of that happening. You just got lucky. (While if someone did know about Monty Hall, and switched but happened to have chosen right the first time, that just means they were unlucky).
>>343634135
It's fairly straight forward to calculate the conditional probability of winning by switching door/box. I'm pretty sure the monty hall problem is covered in most collage statistics classes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem#Direct_calculation
>>343634248
mary will marry carlos
>>343634357
To be fair though, the Monty Hall problem is highly divisive even among expert mathematicians. The game even acknowledges that it's divisive - there are still esteemed scholars today who disagree with the conclusion and argue against it.
So the next zero will be Zero the Third again right? since in this timeline sigma won´t go to the moon.
>>343634098
This point is kinda bullshtit but we know Akane knows some "truth" from Zero, knows K will be super fucking important to everything, and is also known for withholding information because its important to. Delta had to mind hack SOMEBODY who knew a lot about the VLR future timeline in order to set up the creation.
How K gets hypothetically sent back that far, who fucking knows. And theres still the problem of how he figured out the terrorist problem.
>>343634429
No, the Monty Hall problem is provable. You're probably thinking of the sleeping beauty problem.
>>343633940
That's not a theory. Did you beat the game?
I have yet to start playing and I was wondering whether Chill & Rigor is still in the game? Definitely the best suspense track from the first two games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GLYF5O1gMY
>>343634497
Maybe not since the snail incident might not happen the way it did in a alternative timeline.
>>343633249
The correct answer is whatever you pick first. You will always get the good ending as your very first ending.
>>343634135
Ok I will try. By saying it as 50/50 It seems you disregard the first case of the problem and only consider the second case where there are only 2 lockers left.
At first case, you have 1/10 chance of being right. Now that Zero has opened 8 other lockers, meaning there are 2 lockers left. One is the one you picked just now (which has 1/10 being right). And guess what the other locker probability when the your currently locker's one is 1/10? Yes, it's 9/10.
That's why it's better to switch. You can keep your choice but you just have lower odds.
Doesn't mean you can only get it right after the 10th however.
>>343634564
Yes anon I did, I know about the jail scene. It was yesterday I was on the wikia for ZTD reading some trivia and that was a theory some crazy fans came up with. Which I didn't like the theory any way.
>Akane was a traitorous bitch that kept information from the others, like the entire FtS meeting, in the VLR timeline too
add this to all her flaws makes you really wonder why people like her
>>343634665
Hm... I think I understand a bit better now. The first choice stays at 10% because that was the chance it has of being the right one when the choice was made. Thanks for the explanation. It was a lot more helpful than the
>lol ur stupid
responses.
>tfw I knew abuot the Monty Hall problem thanks to offtopic /v/ threads
![fe7665edd3[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/xoTHXc6.png "fe7665edd3[1].png")
>>343634026
>>343634135
>>343634286
I have drawn the monty hall problem for you people.
With 3 doors to show you how switching always gives you the best Chance.
>>343634806
Not my fault you're just an eric
>>343634702
it's confirmed in the scene where mira murders carlos. Not the epilogue.
>>343633814
Seriously, I was expecting this too. Weird that they didn't fit the Titanic back into it when they outright reveal the main villain was alive at the time. Would have been a nice connection back to the beginning.
>>343634806
buy you are stupid and need to learn to help yourself anon.
>>343634806
If it helps I was both the first guy to call you stupid and the first guy to try explain it to you. I felt bad re-reading my comment and realizing how condescending it sounded.
>>343627440
18 hours, 17 minutes, 18 seconds.
Too short.
>>343623343
I know he he gets a ton of flack for it, but probably the whole TEN MONTHS and "If I had done that, I wouldn't have met you guys" part. He was just so naive and the game was totally judging him for being that way.
Also, it's a lot more funnier and iconic than Diana's knowingly taking a Radical-6 patient out of the facility.
>>343634936
Yes but it hasn't been really been confirmed though and still a theory.
>>343633738
Sigma was amazing in that room
>>343635348
Wtf are you talking about? Her first said the same thing are erics last words, and her first told her to smile. It's clearly erics mom.
>>343635438
Doesn't mean it's confirm.
>>343635332
If he had tried to stop Zero he would have branched it off into a different timeline where he either succeeded in stopping Zero or failed to stop Zero (likely ending up dead or something) and he would not have been able to rescue them from that timeline.
>>343632835
I got it second try though...
>>343635465
It is, unless you are profoundly autistic.
>>343635480
The craziest thing is there is a time line where he might have done those two things as the tree branched out more.
>>343634793
In the VLR timeline,Akane was the clone, she didn't have any memories of the decision game.
>>343635408
>Going into the shower a second time
>>343634870
Actually good and simple explanation.
>>343632936
She has PhD in memefield.
>>343635575
It isn't confirmed so that means it's a theory. You won't know til there is a game of it showing what happens after they break her out of jail.
>Sigma can't read the transporter and picks random ass dates twice
>Carlos picks the exact date and history to arrive in time before the game begins so he can save Junpei and Akane
???
>>343633915
The robot eye and arms were what boosted his stats in goofiness.
He's working with what he's got.
>>343633335
Yeah. Fair enough. It was just the satisfaction of being completely blindsided. I haven't felt that since the first time somebody betrayed in an AB game because I did, or the whole 'I am Zero' twist in 999. It's very rare I never see something coming but that complete shock made me feel so good.
so what was the meeting?
who si the God of that world? the player? that's why Delta knows everything? what are the secrets of the world? why I am left with more questions than answers
>>343635752
You don't know that. Could be that he was transported to years before ZTD happened.
>>343635809
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>343635535
Maybe it's scripted on the third try but the first 2 are legitimate rolls. That's kind of cool.
>>343635809
No gods and kings
only men.And ayys
>>343635752
Sigma was pressured by the fact that he and Diana are about to be injected with amnesia drug. He totally forgot the decision game has end and the drug won't be injected anymore. His old age probably played a role in here.
>>343635903
Anon is trying to say delta = you( the player)
>>343635872
He said he got there 10 months before the game started not that he waited 10 months.
>>343635972
What explains the second time?
>>343635809
>God of that world
gab
>>343635903
it's the VLR ending with Akane and Junpei, Delta tells Akane to go the meeting and he would show her the God/Secrets of that world
>>343636026
No the 10 months waiting was so the time machine could charge.
>>343635972
This is true the ones that are left behind realize that the game is over.
>>343635752
Bigger question - who the fuck was watching the alien transporty device when his clone emerged from it? Did Zero have it at that point? Or the CIA or whatever? Was it unguarded and he just waltzed out and hid away for all that time waiting to rescue Junpy and Kanny? Doesn't compute.
>>343635696
They already showed the murder in a cutscene lol. You don't need to have a character say Mira killed Erics mother, being blunt and direct with everything is bad writing. it's so strongly implied that it it's more than obvious. You're just trying to pretend it isn't real in your headcannon for some reason.
>>343636026
>What explains the second time?
You mean when picking the time for Phi and Delta?
He did mentioned distant past if I remembered correctly.
>>343636125
IIRC Delta said he got the transporter in 2009
![giphy[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/QiZKTCO.gif "giphy[1].gif")
>The alien cards puzzle
>>343627440
26 hours
>>343636183
They only showed they repeated the same thing. That's it :^). The woman met with their neighbor and died.
>>343635696
>Unless they refer to the woman as "eric's mother" and unless she has a name tag that says "eric's mother" than it is not her
>>343636426
Basically :^).
>>343628206
>>343627598
I was thinking thatDiana and Phi were sister, and not only that but they are actually Mother and daugther and Sigma still the father.
But no,Deltahas to come around and fuck up everything.
>>343636393
>He failed grade school math class
>>343627873
Yes, they are different. but still similar in their own way.
>>343628829
>There's no loose ends
>>343636393
I fucking manually calculated the ~2000 something number to base 13 with a fucking calculator before finding out the game had a machine that did it automatically for you.
I felt like a retard.
>>343636489
...are you not old enough to make basic conclusions on your own?
>>343636393
I was struggling until I had two thirds of the single symbol cards figured out and then just tried different combinations with the multi symbol cards until I had 0 to 12. Anybody who tells you it was easy probably looked at a guide. It's the Dark Souls fanbase all over again.
>>343636679
Just assume that everything Akane ever says is a lie
Why do you keep calling them aliens they are human equivalents from another universe, The One God Didn't Abandon.
If they made a fourth game, would you prefer it to be PC/console only if it had better graphics?
>>343632618
>>343632653
>>343632840
I can confirm that the gunshot is random. I failed it twice in a row and only got the blank on my third attempt. I even tried to spin the barrel on my second try, but you can't do that.
>>343636752
Might as well assume that whole VLR thing as non-canon, right?
>>343636737
I had to use a guide for the converting to base 13 thing. I had the wheels spinning and all but I couldn't wrap my head around it.
>>343636426
>>343636183
>>343636489
The only reason this true and not with coincidence of them saying the same thing and dying, is that everyone is related to each person in the game from the butterfly effect of what happen. So it's true. Mira killed Eric's mom. Which was the second thing to set off a chain of events happening to 999, ZTD and VLR timelines.
>>343636737
>>343636861
You just don't understand Akane's complex motives
>>343636861
It's not the true ending any more now anon.
>>343636403
Then how can we know if the Delta who mind hacks is actually the baby who got sent back in time? It could be a random, crazy old man with colored contacts. How can we know if Phi actually died in the incinerator? She could've just thrown a bunch of pocket sand on the ground, asking with her brooch, and escaped out a secret door.
>>343636861
VLR is canon. The true ending is the one that leads to VLR and it loops.
>>343636849
I don't fucking care what the medium will be.
Just make it back to VN again.
All these cinematic translates to less reading, meaning less room to explore the plot as a whole.
>>343634357
I don't get why staying with your original choice in a new situation isn't being counted as making a new decision in and of itself. The situation itself has already changed, the probability doesn't remain the same as a result of that.
Not changing is the same as if you had come in on the second situation and chosen something from a 50/50 chance in the first place.
>>343635987
You can't be delta because he doesn't shift, you're just looking through his glasses
>>343636979
but it still happens, is not like 999 where you rewrite history
>the post game file in ZTD where Junpei thinks about all the alternate Junpei that didn't get Akane and Akane tells him who cares
Who made Phi's brooch anyways? The only way she obtains it is by getting it as a keepsake from Sigma and Diana, who get it from her to begin with.
>>343636712
Sounds cool. How do you do it?
>>343627440
about 17 hours. still have 4 hidden trophies though, are they related to the chance games?
>>343637024
Because it was mentioned anon and seen :^). And confirmed.
>>343636849
>If they made a fourth game, would you prefer it to be PC/console only if it had better graphics?
I don't need better graphics. What I would like is being able to walk around freely, Persona 3/4 style. I feel like that would add a lot more depth to the game. It would be nice to be able to explore a bit and interact with things outside of puzzle rooms.
>>343637108
Bootstrap Paradox
>>343637121
Just do everything. If it's got a ? go do it.
>>343637108
Schrodinger's Cat
>>343636849
>Graphics for a VN/Cinematic whatever
Die
My vision on the zero escape series is that there is only a single timeline.
All those multiple timelines are still contained in a single "true" timeline. The universe just accounts for the time travel. History always had time travel in it. There is no timeline where the timetravel didn't happen.
>>343623343
REMOVE CARLOS
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If you haven't platinum VLR and ZTD, you're truly a scrub.
>>343635987
No I was trying to say that Delta knows the God of that wolrd which is the player, all the timelines where "God abandoned us" are the ones we leave because we have finished those fragments, and that's why he knows all the stuff because we know it and he can't find the terrorist because we don't know who he is for now
>>343637181
walking around added nothing to persona 3/4 which is why P3P exists and was better.
>>343633864
lmao
>>343637264
>Friendship bro!
>>343637207
but the only ? left in the global flowchart isthe one after carlos' decision to shoot Delta in the true ending
>Characters epilogues aren't made into cutscenes and are told only through text in extra notes
>no epilogue for D-Team
>>343637281
But they are in The Timeline God Abandoned, that's why alternate universe entities had to send the time machine-like thing.
>>343636849
the graphics were ""fine""
the problem was the animations are terrible
probably the worst animations i've seen in a 3D game
>>343637264
>it's an Eric has a shotgun scene
>>343637356Look under the coin flip
>>343637295
I dunno, I think being able to walk around does help out since you get a better idea of your surroundings and feel more attached to it.
I know I wished in SMT4 that they let you walk around Mikado to see what a cool setting it was, especially since they let you do that in Tokyo a decent amount.
>>343637271
Jokes on you, faggot. I pirated all three games :^)
>>343637386
Because their journey is not over anon, wait for Sigma return next summer :^)
>>343636393
You just had to play yugioh against the CPU a few times to figure out which cards were one, two and three and then it was basically done.
>>343637452
I can't remember how this got started, but I can tell you exactly how it will end
>>343636737
>Anybody who tells you it was easy probably looked at a guide.
how about not being a fucking retard
i got an 800 on the math section of the sat, if you didn't, you're a retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zAU7tZnCcQ
>Write yourself into a corner
>MIND HACKS
BRAVO UCHI!!!
Wait so...DIO was a clone of Phi, why is he male tho? also why blonde..it also say that Left and Brother were born into a poor family which isn't true.Also it would be funny to think Left was actually the kid Sean was based on and the one Delta was so attached to in there first place, but Delta was already old wen Real Sean died so it couldn't be the motivation for Free the Soul.
>>343637223
I don't see why graphics don't matter in what's essentially a 20 hour movie. But I'm sure there's a timeline where I kill myself over it.
>>343637264
Why was Eric even there?Deltaexplained that Mira was a helper of sorts, but he completely changed the subject when they asked about Eric at the end of the game.
>>343637470
Now you're not even a scrub but you're a sponge a barnacle.
>>343637452
In that ending whereDelta gives you password from the computer panel, why he kills Sigma but not Diana? He kills her easily and mercilessly throughout the whole game and now suddenly wants some time with mommy?
>>343637236
I bet you think all of Gundam is a single timeline too.
>>343637613
Left and the Dio clones were from the family Delta was adopted into, not Phi
>>343637613
Dio is a clone of delta.
>>343637613
NoDio was a clone of Left, the son of the family that adopted him. His life story was a lie for why he created FtS, his motives were more... complex.I don't know who Sean is
>>343623343
So I just finished the game.
I just need to sit down and take it all in now. It didn't end the way I wanted, but I'm satisfied enough with how it went.My biggest concern going in was wanting Sigma and Junpeis timelines to be concluded nicely and I felt the game did do that somewhat well. Sad we didn't hear anything about Quark, but it's meh. I lost my shit watching Akanes go full chainsaw massacre mode when her beloved Junpei was killed. And my man Sigma having unprotected sex with a cute drunken nurse was nice. The Phi stuff I liked, it was the Delta nonsense that was a bit silly.
God man, so much I want to say about this game. It wasn't exactly how I wanted it to end, but at it's close enough.
>>343637692
>Why was Eric even there
He's the mastermind, obviously.
>>343637609
Brothers ability tomind hackwas referenced in VLR.
It's also no more retarded than accessing the morphogenetic field or SHIFTing yet some of you sperg out just because the name sounds stupid.
BRAVO ANON!!!
