Zero Time Dilemma thread
Anyone got a link to the AX panel with uchi that just happened yesterday ?
>everybody refreshes, nobody makes the damn thread
Hey guy stuck on the Q Force Quit Box, you in here?
>she's not in this timeline
>>343609685
how can you even stuck in those for quit box fragment? they are not really puzzle
if you did the necessary steps and play other fragment, you get the password for it 100%
ther
>yfw sheasks you to sleep with her
so why was junpei so aggressive towards akane for most of the game if he came to Dcom just to propose to her?
So am I fucked here? I have seemingly nowhere to go
Spoiler filed picture if you're not close to the end
>>343609931
blueball
>>343609586
So, what are your guy's fav games in order? Mine's:
999 > ZTD > VLR
I actually ended up liking the campy-ish cutscenes of ZTD, and the journey for me was on par with 999. VLR I didn't like as much, because I didn't like the sometimes straight up retarded plot twists, and the shit ending. Ending goes the same for ZTD, I want another game just to wrap everything up once and for good, but I have a feeling if they do, they'll only fuck it up even more.
>>343609956
Did you do all 3 executions?
>>343609865derp
>>343609865
Drunk Diana was best girl by far
>>343610006
That fan art is fucking disgusting. Get that shit out of my face.
>>343609956
your tree lacking something
did you do those top 4 scenarios yet?you have to kill each teams by the 13:3- vote and save all of them with a draw vote
>>343610032
Yes but onlygreen is highlighted.if that matters
>>343609956
>Perceptive End
wew I'm so sorry.
>>343610006
I agree completely with this
VLR was the ugliest game and had my least favorite cast
Why was the last thread saged?
>>343609865you don't have the balls
>>343610157
>yes i did all of them
>but only one get highlighted
then you didn't do all of them yet
>>343610006
999 >>>>>> VLR/ZTD
shouldve ended after the first
>>343610006
999 > VLR > ZTD
VLR rates higher for introducing Phi, one of my favorite characters in the series, but the rest of the game isn't great.
>>343610184
probably because some fucking retard phrased it like a general thread
>Guy with naruto purple eyes and over 100 years old
>Story about some falsely accused guy and his wife that killed herself that's actually revealed to be Akane's parents is NEVER mentioned again
>ALIEN TECHNOLOGY
>a blood-thirsty murderer suddently turns herself in, marries an icecream man and gets regular visits by a fucking robot
>Kyle, Alice, Clover never mentioned as stated here 1000x times already
>Sigma loses his eye and arms in the most retarded way possible (I was really expecting some decision game for this)
>Akane and Junpei hardly have anything similiar with their old personalities
>Gab is killed because who knows why
Oh well, at least is wasn't as bad as MGS V. I probably just had way too high expectations.
>>343610157
you've only activated both vote scenarios. Go back and vote again to trigger the executions.
>>343609956
You should be able to do theDoor of Truthat this point.
>>343609865
Made me rock hard.Sigma could do better than her though.
>>343610169
lmao i noticed that too
how the fuck he got that one and didn't get the 3rd one, must be spoiler
>>343610157
So no, you only did one. Get them all highlighted. It's by far the most common roadblock that people face, I was there too bro.
>>343610261
>>343610230
Oh, motherfucker. So I have to keep voting until it does all the shit I need. Ok then. Guess that will solve this then
>>343609865
Why is Sigma so naive when he named his daughter phi and sending her to a different timeline that he wouldn't think its possible that it is same person?
>>343610439
Because if he wasn't, that wouldn't be her name.
>>343609931
Did you read the prologue in the art book?
>yfw you realize that all the English voice actors were injected with Radical-6
>>343609865
Everything leading up to that part was really sad, so her saying that really disturbed me. One of the best dramatic points in the game.
>>343610006
I liked 999 and VLR the most, for different reasons. 999 was enthralling and the character art was fantastic. The mystery was compelling and the tone was creepy and dark. But playing it over and over from the beginning got tiresome.
VLR improved in terms of gameplay and had some shining moments. The AB game felt impactful. I couldnt take the decisions lightly and the repercussions were fun to see play out. The art and models were bad but the dialogue and voice work were fine. I liked jumping timelines with new knowledge. And the reveals were really mindfuck-y.
ZTD was okay. I didnt like the stilted animations and the dialogue felt unnatural because it was tied to the scripted sequences, unlike VLR's dialogue boxes. There were some interesting ideas but they didnt handle Akane and Junpei well imo. I also didnt like having to hear the same things explained three times each.
>all these people didn't take every option just to see what happened when voting
I had the thumbs-up before I even knew I needed it.
Akane's love for Junpei was too much for me mates.
Killed me.
>>343610430
>>343610353
>>343610261
I'm free now. Thanks niggas.
>>343610246
vlr had cool twist at the end with ? and K. But it got scrapped so I might agree.
>>343610853
>Killed me.
carlos? :^)
>>343610497
or he would know and that is why he would do it. That mofo is suppose to be a genetic engineer.
>>343610853
Anyone else find Junpei incredibly sexy in ZTD? Something about that voice.
Also why does he look so shy in the promotional material when in the game he's anything but?
>>343610853
>super hardcore machiavellian the ends justify the means in VLR
>MUH JUNPEI WE CANT KILL OUR OTHER VERSIONS WHY DO I CARE ABOUT DYING WHEN IN VLR I WAS SUPER NONCHALANT ABOUT BEING STABBED TO DEATH IN EVERY TIMELINE
What the fuck happened? Did the writers other than Uchikoshi never play the other games?
>>343611000
I thought Carlos was the hottest. Junpei kind of looks a bit too emo for me.
>>343610259
The decision games fucking sucked. When I saw the chart with FBR and Radical-6 death chances, I thought you were going to have to choose to infect a bunch of people and try to morally justify it either way.
>>343611000
I'd rather fuck Sigma's 18 inches.
>>343610006
I just want to erase VLR and ZTD from this timeline and live on with only 999. I didn't dislike VLR at all, I liked it almost as much as 999, but VLR existing leads to ZTD.
I was in line for that shit at AX and was turned back when I was nearly in because it was full.
Life is simply unfair.At least I nabbed a VLR watch.
>>343611217
I want to jump to a timeline where VLR and ZTD got the same time, attention to detail, and budget 999 did.
>>343611050
wait, why do you compare vlr akane and ztd akane?
that is stupid, she didn't get her conscious send back like phi and sigma
her personality in VLR is the result of what happen in ZTD
i keep seeing people making this mistake because they think vlr is the 2nd game that mean everything happen in vlr happened before ztd
>>343610803
Gotta agree with you on the VLR AB games. I remember feeling legitimately bad for betraying people I didn't want to betrayLUNA
I also really liked some of the characters as well, but for me, story was by far the weakest, at least imo. Like I said, just too many stupid reveals, and it didn't fit the same tone as the first game. The first game was by far my fav, because it just had me hooked from the start, wondering, "What the actual fuck is happening?" which just isn't the same in VLR, or even ZTD. Like you said, the art was great, and I honestly think it could've easily just been a standalone experience, if they just tied up a few loose ends.
>>343611050
That's future her, it's explainable. Now what I want explained is her setting off the reactor and fucking killing all of D team, remember when she did that?
>>343611050
3 things:
Being a timelord that can see almost every reality for 45 years will fuck your head.
She had to destroy what little morality she had left to enact her master plan.
Whatever the fuck was in that Free the Soul meeting probably broke her.
>>343610439
Sigma was generally dumb as fuck in ZTD.
>>343611369
I remember seeing Luna standing menacingly outside of your voting room and it was probably the uncanniness of the models and her just standing there silently that made me hit betray. She was just too good to be true for me, until I learned more about her.
How's ZTD's reception in Japan?
I want some porn of them ASAP. Pixiv, please.
What did he mean by this?
>>343611363
>she didn't get her conscious send back like phi and sigma
fuck i feel stupid now
>>343611734
I WILL HAVE WALLED OFF 6 BILLIONS
What did she mean by this?
>>343611734
DIANA = TRUMP CONFIRMED
>>343611734
Well, the original 999 characters were based off of personality archetypes (can't remember which system atm), so he was probably explaining where the ZTD characters come from.
>>343611363
This doesn't explain Sigma and Phi being emotional when someone dies since they are just save scumming.
>>343611880
Who knows.
>>343611734
>Akane "YOU KILLED JUNPEI" Kurashiki is logical
>Eric "This is my boomstick" is positive
Really?
>>343611734
Literally nothing there makes sense. What a hack.
>>343611734
He's definitely full of shit.
why did akane run to turn off the lights during the axe-chainsaw fight
that was the dumbest shit ive ever seen
>>343609865
YOU
DON'T
HAVE
THE
BALLS
COWARD
>>343611734
COMPLEX MOTIVES
>>343611734
where is the source?
Okay, we all know the budget for this game was rock-bottom. Like, $20 and some lint at most.
As-is, it's sold 10k~ on Steam, and far, far more on 3DS and Vita, all at a $40-$50 pricepoint. Steam takes 30%, and we can assume that retail would take roughly the same amount. So 30 bucks of profit a pop.
ZTD 3DS had 32k preorders in the US alone. Vita probably had a fifth of that, since there's five times as many 3DS as Vitas. So, probably 6k-8k
Trail sales for the next couple years (esp. with 999 and VLR being ported) would probably be around 1.5x+ what we had now (esp. since we're still in the first week).
That comes down to 2.2 million buckaroos. Given the (mostly) reused OST, animation/clipping issues, bugs, rushed puzzles (not anywhere near as much variation as in VLR/999, lotta repetitive 'fit x in y or 'rotate this' puzzles), rushed ending, plot threads hanging everywhere (Kyle/?), contradictory characterization and so forth, it's probable that most of the budget was spent on seiyuu, even if they were mostly fairly cheap ones except for best girl (Miyuki Sawashiro).
They spent probably something like 200k on seiyuu, 100k on outsourcing (most of the) pazurus, and the rest on programming, and the rest on an engine Windows port, art, coding, and writing. Mostly coding.
Basically 1.5 mil in pure profit. Still, Danganronpa is more popular globally, so there's an opportunity cost to devote their resources in this direction.
>>343612167
See, Akane shutting off the lights makes no sense. If Carlos had done it it would have been somewhat reasonable. In a regular chainsaw vs ax fight, the chainsaw user has the advantage. But by shutting off the lights, Akane had no way to track him, but he could still hear her chainsaw and run away/towards her.
>>343611734
>mira
>emotional
kek
>>343611734
>junpei "lets kill them before they kill us" tenmyouji
>emotional
>>343609685
there's 3 answers.
>>343612262
>literally pulling number out of the ass : the post
>>343611734
I wish Akane's characterization had actually followed this chart.
>>343612298
Jesus christ really
>>343611880
does she ever call him jumpy in ZTD? Is she ever called june? it's a better name for her, seeing as she looks white as hell.
>dude switch on the monty hall problem lmao, you have a better chance of winning
>my first choice was right
fuck you /v/
Who the hell killed chopped Jumpy? How the hell did a 1000 year old grandpa strangled a serial killer? Why do characters mention things that are never talked about again?
Why is this game missing so many explanations?
>>343612469
Nope, I was waiting the entire game for one single mention of either Jumpy or Kanny. They don't call each other anything then Junpei and Akane
Oh shit I just realized something thats probably super obvious and everyone probably already knew about.
Someone last thread pointed outThe reason its the Decision game and not the Nonary game is because there are 10 players. Thus 10 -> DeciBy that same line of logic. The reason it is the X door instead of the 9 door is because X=10
>>343612297
the chainsaw doesn't have an advantage you fucking idiot.Chainsaws are not weapons. they are too slow to swing and take too much time to recover and are dangerous to the user.
>>343612501
Even the game tells you it's all random chance but you have higher odds in switching.
>>343612501
It's still a game left up to chance. You don't automatically win by switching, it just ups the odds.
>>343612469
I don't recall seeing June or Jumpy, but one of her X-Passes was 6, which wasnother number in 999
>>343612469
>>343612548
They themselves don't use those names, but Jump and June are some of the X-Passes for them,
>>343612548
Seriously I think the only time they had any cute banter like 999 was in the first puzzle room.
>>343611208
It was bloody hilarious seeing Uchikoshi get called out on his tweet at AX.
>This is an all ages panel.
>>343612501
>get to monty hall
>switch
>its not there
>dont switch
>its not there
>repeat 4 times
>still not there
I seriously thought for a moment I had to get a mask in an alternate timeline because that was some bullshit.
>>343612670
Sounds prettyunfair
>>343610853
DELETE THIS
SHE IS P U R E
>>343612390
Vgchartz has the number of 3DS sales, and Steamspy gives you an estimate on Steam sales. Steam does indeed take a 30% cut, and it does indeed cost 40~ bucks. Retail takes roughly the same as Steam does, since Steam demands fairly high cuts since they can afford to.
>>343612545
>Who the hell killed chopped Jumpy
Zero literally said it was Mira, pay attention.
>How the hell did a 1000 year old grandpa strangled a serial killer?
He has psychic powers, purple eyes that probably means alien shit, and was probably a Nazi, idk.
>Why do characters mention things that are never talked about again?
That's a fair point, it does feel like there's a bunch of exposition missing.
>>343612576
Anything can be used as a fucking weapon. A chair is a weapon. A stick is a weapon. A shoe is a weapon. If Akane actually had any muscle somewhere beside her ass, she could have stopped Carlos with one swing.
>>343612775
Good job ignoring all the other numbers you made up
the quality of these thread went down fucking fast after the game came out
didn't help when this is australian hour
>>343612656
anybody have the tweet?
>c team SHIFTing to the timeline where they get obliterated by gatling guns and shielding akane with their lifeless corpses as they SHIFT out
Lmfao
>>343612548
Those names were made up for the US version.
Reminder that the Nazis had alien technology and are definitely ruling the world in another timeline if they ever figured out how to use it.
>>343612545
>Who the hell killed chopped Jumpy?
Mira, it's literally explained, she gets to roam free while the others are knocked out.
>How the hell did a 1000 year old grandpa strangled a serial killer?
M I N D H A C K
>Why do characters mention things that are never talked about again?
>Why is this game missing so many explanations?
because uchi is a hack
>>343609865
she remind me about the robot girl from the second game for some reason.
>>343612640
June is one of Akane's X-passes
>>343612906
The series became shockingly popular, which means lowered quality. I mean, look how fast these threads are going, I still don't believe it. The quality might increase once things slow down.
>people asking how come there are still things still don't get explained
life is unfair, faggots
Well?
>>343611734
>sociopath whose entire background revolves around the fact she literally does not understand emotions
>emotional
Is he fucking retarded? Not a single thing on this chart makes any sense at all.
>>343612545
Every unexplained death is just "Mira because I exempted her from drugs :^)"
Why? It was probably just to increase the espers survival instincts like the Piranha in the Koi Tank scenario.But its still stupid.
>>343613092
Is there a gif or webm of diana pushing it and the aftermath?
>>343613025
Luna was modeled after her. They tell you why in the game.
>>343613105
She doesn't understand emotions, but she acts on impulse and emotion (her need to feel hearts).
>>343611734
Here's the one he put up right AFTER I posted this one.
>>343612840
Chainsaws are not proper weapons.Then again neither is a wood chopping axe, but it's much better than a chainsaw.
You have no understanding of hema. muscle has nothing to do with something being too heavy or improperly balanced to use with any dexterity.
an axe is more dangerous. It doesn't take much to kill or incapacitate someone, the chainsaw is intimidating but not very useful.
it wouldn't be able to chop of a hand cleanly like a fucking sword either as the whole point is it eats with the teeth.
>>343612548
Jumpy was just the localization of Junpei-kun. Akane calls him Junpei-kun if you play weeb mode.
Smilarly Kanny comes from Akane-chan, but Junpei is too grown up to use such childish honorifics.
>>343613039
Guess I'm just retarded, thanks.
Remind me again why this weebshit is so hyped here?
>>343613043
>47 IPs
>page 6 on steam top sellers already
>shockingly popular
>>343613043
it's not popular it's the same 100 people in all the threads.
>Damnit junpei if this doesn't work i'm killing you
Oh Carlos you've all already killed each other :^)
>>343610006
God tier: VLR
High tier: ZTD
Mediocre tier: 999
>>343609586
So is this game worth buying? $39.99 seems like a steep price for this type of game.
>>343613043
not a single one of these threads gets above ~100 IPs, popular my ass
>>343613168
Ah, I see. I think she have the same japanese VA too.
I didn't care for q and d team endings.
>>343610439
Because he sent her to 1904?
>>343613341
Pretty much only if you've played 999 and/or VLR.
The less you have played, the less you should pay.
>>343612656
Did somebody record the whole thing? Didn't get to go because the room was filled up.
Will Qbeing an old man in a wheelchair who is with you the entire timehave as much evidence and make as much sense on a replay as Sigmabeing olddid in VLR?
The whole thing about a terrorist causingMUH 8 BILLIONis the most retarded thing ever.
Even if we assume Delta isn't making shit up and he has actual knowledge of it happening (probably from some SHIFTer), we're supposed to believe that it will happen in EVERY SINGLE FUCKING BRANCH originating from this timeline without his intervention? There could literally be a stupid snail causing the terrorist's car to crash and killing him in the process, saving humanity. No we need to make 7 SHIFTers take the future into their own hands. Is this DanganRonpa?
>>343613341
you need to play VLR. 999 is less important.
You can play VLR before 999 but you really need to play 999, it makes the game more of a mindfuck playing VLR first.
honestly you can start with any game bu ZTD
>>343613523
There's little hints, but it's not as well integrated as the Sigma twist, IMO.
>>343613523
Barely. Only like two or three lines that you see again and go "ohhhh", and at the same time there are parts that make no sense at all with that in mind.
>>343613287
>>343613305
I want you guys to check the fucking archive and see how popular the threads were before. Barely any of them reached the post limit, unlike now.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/Zero%20Time%20Dilemma/type/op/order/asc/
Change the search terms, it doesn't matter, Zero Escape is way more popular now than it was before.
>>343613409
I like how young Phi was raised by old Phi. You think old Phi was bitchy too?
So, 999 HD was announced exactly for what platforms?
>>343613513
I'm pretty sure there were cameras so they should be posting it sometime.
There was a thread where I posted what was going on as it happened. Not much to talk about since he was mostly showing off his slides and only took a few questions at the end.
>>343613578
I think Uchikoshi has been hanging out too much with DR's creator. Have you seen the DR3 anime plot? Seems like they've influenced each other a little too much, Uchikoshi in the wrong direction.
>>343609956
for the Q one with 4 paths the one you're missing isno one
>>343612084
He was pretty optimistic in his future with Mira. In his escape end, he was pretty happy living with her until she got bored and killed him
> Never get to see the consequences of shifting directly by watching completely confused teams wondering what the fuck is going on before utter annihilation.
>>343610259
Kyle at least gets acknowledged by a dying Sigma who says his name in a fragment.
Still a disappointment though.
>>343613638
of course people didn't want spoilers. The community is small but dedicated. The game probably won't sell more than 100,000 copies in it's life time.
>>343612921
Pic related
>>343613645
None but the video they showed had only one screen with an "ADV Screen" button. Most likely PC but maybe Vita and possibly 3DS.
>>343613432
>>343613581
so wtf is wrong with these guys releasing this game first if the previous ones are integral to the story? guess i'll just wait for them to release the previous games before getting this one.
so wait, what was Diana's reasoning for knocking out Phi and escaping at the end of Apocalypse ending? At the time she only knew that doing so would be the death of 6 billion people, right?
>>343613578
It's a pointless endeavor, really. Especially after touting the many worlds theory so much. But I guess they need to feel like they have all this control over this thing that may happen.
>>343613523
It has way more foreshadowing than Sigma's twist.
Even Q's X-passes point to the twist.
>>343613645
PC and implied for Vita.
>>343613754
I was really surprised that never fucking happened. They suddenly bring up the morality of SHIFTing when it previously wasn't a problem at all, and then never capitalize on it beyond an entire cutscene about Back to the Future.
>>343612548
> Lack of Ben Bateman.
>>343613797
But Phi is a D cup. So his dick is even bigger than that.
>>343613194
that's pretty cringy
he has not learned the ways of kek
>>343613754
This is something I wouldve liked to see. Like after winning the coin toss and leaving you're suddenly in the lounge and the entire facility blows up.
>>343613824
The previous games have been out for years masterdisgrace.
>>343613523
There are lots of hints, but they're kinda weak. The entire twist was really lame and completely failed to live up to loli screen or muh face.
>>343613824
I meant that for $40, it wouldn't be worth it to play if you've never played the previous games.
It's like MGSV where you can play it and go through it but you won't really connect as quickly or as deeply with the characters unless you know the lore.
>releasing this game first
The other games have been out for years and they were on a tight budget.
>>343613941
He only recently learned what memes are, let's cut him some slack.
>>343613941
Mira being emotional is pretty funny. As is Carlos as liberal when he is a caricature of american patriotic conservatism.
>>343614018
What the fuck are you talking about, who's teaching him about memes? Stop it, stop it before you ruin this man.
>>343613523
I seriously doubt it. Him being there the entire time but never being shown is one of the biggest asspulls ever.
>>343614087
His twitter asked what memes were. It was cute.
>>343613826
Muh kindness. She can't sacrifice an individual for the greater good.
>>343613824
Steam release was an afterthought after much begging.
>>343614018meme-o-genetic field confirmed for next game
>>343613578
There are infinitely as many timelines the terrorist launched an attack as there are where he didn't, just like how there are infinitely many timelines where Brother released Rad-6
>>343614145
Some anon in previous threads compiled a list of like 30+ entries with foreshadowing about the twist.
Old Sigma was much more of an asspull, though I was surprised by both twists.
>You will never be so loved that your soulmate makes a replica of you that amplifies your strengths and removes your flaws
>>343614210
It's because it's her daughter dingus.
>she doesn't know!
she does deep down inside, as does phi with sigma and her electra complex. They are irrationally loving and bonded to each other when they really don't know each other well.
>>343612984
*uchi is a mind hack
>>343614183
The Japs should never learn our Western memes, it never ends well
I really enjoyed my time with the game. Totally satisfied? Nope, but this is a better package than VLR, interestingly enough.
999 is one of the best self-contained stories in the medium, only marred by its lack of quality-of-life improvement that VLR and ZTD have (an accessible timeline + skippable dialogue). VLR is built on promise of something more. I didn't like the shitty poses. ZTD isn't that much better, but it has camera angles. Even Eric's static smile is explained. 100x better than Clover in VLR.
I'm not totally satisfied. Why aliens? Why not even fucking question anything about aliens? Why not fucking question Mira? But what we got, on pretty much a shoestring budget, that we didn't think we'd get, is great. I have ~20 hours and I enjoyed all of it.
But seriously... Alice? Who actually made radical-6? Why the fuck was Left in a fucking lion tamer suit? what the fuck
How did Carlos know to send Gabletter 4 (pic) when his consciousness at the time had no interaction with Q team or the pod room?
Most stupid little details get explained as you go through more fragments, but I'm near the end of the game and this sticks out to me as something that makes no sense
>>343614334
Time lines have to be created though decisions. There is the possibility of infinite timelines, as is stands there is no reality where no one died. The goal of the games is to create it,
>>343614439
I have no idea what you're talking about
>>343614348
Can somone post this?
>>343614484
that doesn't even look like carlos' handwriting, you sperg.
>>343614356
>all your perfect imperfections
>love keeps no record of wrongs etc
Sigma tried to replicate her as best he could, he wanted the flaws, but probably loved her so much he had rose tinted glasses.
>>343614348
I'm not saying there wasn't foreshadowing, but you could never explain why he was never fucking shown once and only referenced.
Maybe it would've been better if they didn't use fully rendered scenes.
>>343614524
Here you go
>>343612545
>Who the hell killed chopped Jumpy? How the hell did a 1000 year old grandpa strangled a serial killer?
Mira, Mind control.
>Why do characters mention things that are never talked about again?
You mean the parasites and stuff like that? Red herrings and interesting trivia like the previous games had.
>Why is this game missing so many explanations?
Most things that needed to be explained are explained though. I guess the terrorist or the transporter could be better explained, but they're not really needed to. And the biggest unexplained thing is left from VLR, we don't know where Kyle is.
>>343614390
>she does deep down inside
epic
>>343614462
The fact that your main problem with VLR is the graphics shows how much of a pleb you are.
The camera angles were bad in ZTD because it makes the twist that you are looking though Qs point of view even more unbelievable.
>>343614484
collective morphogenetic field
Where can i read the prologue?
>>343614760
Actually, the twist makes even more sense with he angles, because it meant that you were looking through the security cameras.
>>343614653
>imgur.com/a/44wYR
ok that's pretty cool
>>343614731
Then she was mind hacked and couldn't do it because delta wouldn't let her as that would mean muh 8 billion. fuck off.
>>343614486
You don't need a game for that. A simple decision made by the terrorist could cause him to die. You're telling me that will never happen in any timeline?
>>343614883
Not for Q team. The shooting delta scene confirms you are looking though his pov.
>>343614893
yeah it was set up well, it;s just a pretty pointless twist that adds nothing to the plot.
>>343615013
He can still use the glasses to see through the cameras when he's with Q team.
>>343614730
>the terrorist doesn't need to be better explained
>the thing that directly caused ZTD and indirectly VLR doesn't need to be explained
Get out, apologist.
>>343615013
Isn't it both?
Cameras for some scenes, through the cameras for the others?
>>343614760
The facial expressions in VLR (especially Clover) were awful. At least there was some reasoning behind Eric and Mira in this game.
You're a fucking retard for thinking top-down views are from Delta's POV.
>>343615112
I meant his eyes for some scenes.
>>343615095
>>343615112
Why is he hiding from the cameras?
>>343615013
>>343615095
>>343615112
Do the high angle shots conflict with the idea of him being present in the room, though, or are they more careful than that?
>>343615013
>The shooting delta scene confirms you are looking though his pov.
Not every scene tho.
>>343615108
>apologist
How so, because I disagree with you?
We know enough about the terrorist, at least I didn't feel the need to know more. I would've liked more closure about he issue instead.
>>343615005
They don't know, the ability to make decisions doesn't mean you will make them. It's the idea that even if you were to go back if you don't retain any new knowledge history would not change because free will is an illusion and you will always make the same decision if you have the same knowledge in that same environment.
>>343614653
number 27 actually fucked me up
when can i get off this ride?
>>343615206
He's not hiding, you see, he is really shy and has an inferiorityCOMPLEX
>>343615005
The terrorist is an esper, shifter, mind hacker and all around careful guy. There is literally no timeline where he fails because of mere bad luck, he has to be physically stopped by 9 people filled with the desire to change fate. Coming summer 2021, ZE4 (pls buy ZTD).
>Phi 5 minutes earlier
SIGMA THINK ABOUT HOW DIANA WOULD FEEL IF YOU HAD HER SHOOT YOU
>After Sigma dies
DIANA YOU MURDERER, MURDERER!
>>343610707
Is there a link, Anon?
so, what are everyone's thoughts on the overall game?
I've been seeing a lot of complaints today but honestly I'm really happy the thing just came out. I think it had a bunch of twists I liked and a couple I wasn't fully satisfied with, but nothing I was unhappy about. You can definitely feel the budget on this one, far more than VLR or 999 with the absolutely horrendous animations and limited lip sync. Lots of good music and top-tier atmosphere. Also liked the general setup of the plot and the facility.
Overall I think it's the 3rd best and a pretty good conclusion to the series, but 999 will always be my favorite.
>>343615393
Would've been funny if Diana tried to shoot herself with a blank.
>>343615393
Yes the point is that she is bargaining to die instead of risking sigma dying and then it goes to anger. stages of grief.
Guys can someone do an typical example of a 999 puzzle, a vlr puzzle and a ztd puzzle?
>>343615393
panic fucks with your brain.
>>343615393
>I ONLY TRIED TO THROW YOU OUT OF THE WAY SO I CAN PUSH THE BUTTON
>I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU PUSHED IT
it's almost like extreme stress can make you seem unreasonable and defensive
>>343613523
sharin no kuni did it way better
>>343615496
A point blank blank will still kill you.
>>343615303
We are already off the ride. It's over.
>>343615457
Really good, I'm very satisfied with its place in the trilogy, storywise.
The budget limitations were evident, but I'm just so glad we could see the final piece.
>>343615510
999 puzzle
>more akin to a point'n'click adventure game
>some math skills necessary
>occasional pixel hunting
>repeat puzzle room 10x to get to all endings
VLR puzzle
>more or less a collection of individual puzzles that are themed in a way
>usually to get a room to activate and reveal something about the facility
>skippable
ZTD puzzle
>pretty much the same as VLR.
>>343615550
>999 remaster
Not yet, Junpei! It's not over yet!
>>343615457
It was very fun, but a terrible conclusion. Story is filled with unbelievable aspects and many twists are arbitrary and sweeps way too much under the rug/characters are not expanded upon enough and the puzzles are a step down from VLR. Weakest in the series but still a great game.
The main thing is the game was a wild ride, It doesn't hold up to a thorough critique, but it can be so cheesy it almost seems self-aware of it.
>>343615457
Lip sync is less shit if you play it with Jap voices, though it's still very primitive.
>>343615457
I agree with most of what you said. I think it works better than VLR as a package, though. Budget is definitely felt, and maybe because I knew that coming in (and not with VLR) I'm more sympathetic toward it.
I beat it in ~20 hours. I had a great time. I'm showing my buddy it too after trying fucking explain the entire plot which is absolutely fucking crazy when trying to tldr... and he's actually enjoying it. I love how it came out on windows. The first game I played in this series without a single spoiler.
So when Carlos and Junpei were about to have a successful AB game, why did Akane feel the need to blow up everyone in the facility just to demonstrate SHIFT?
Is there some extra reason or is she just retarded?
>>343615762
She is retarded.
>>343615762
Akane's thirst for blood is her best quality, Anon.
>>343615762
I think they were trying to get to a timeline where no one died. The successful AB game wasn't important to her because of that.
>>343615457
>>343615718
>It was very fun, but a terrible conclusion
Pretty much my opinion too. As a game, it's good. As a Zero Escape entry, it's still good. But as a conclusion to the series, it's bad.
>>343615293
This conflicts with the final decision of the game, whether toSHIFTor not toSHIFT. Both decisions are made in-game with the same knowledge in the same environment.
>>343615457
After I finished it, I definitely didn't feel even half the impact of 999's True Ending.
I am probably one of the few who didn't care for the FtS/Left stuff so that didn't bother me, but completely dropping Kyle after he got hyped up felt pretty bad.
However, I still did enjoy the ride to the end much more than VLR and about as much as 999
>>343615457
Disappointed, but probably due to the cliffhanger in VLR and overhype since ZTD was announced.
My biggest complain is the consciousness swapping, it's fucked up and would create a ton of problems but no one seems to care.
>>343615717
I honestly fucking laughed. I was doing a ton of sudoku when I finally ended up playing 999.
Considering that, and how I did the correct path first in 999+VLR, I'm probs a SHIFTer.
>>343615760
>The first game I played in this series without a single spoiler.
same, just beat it yesterday. I picked up 999 on my own after briefly hearing about it on /v/ and through a couple game sites. Fucking fell in love with it and beat it over a couple nights before bed. Immediately bought VLR and had it fucking spoiled for me on /v/.
>>343615457
I finished it in 4 sittings so it at least managed to be consistently exciting and it had some top tier moments, but it's easily my least favorite and the more I think about it and discuss it, the worse the aftertaste gets.
>>343615762
how else were all their lives going to be in-danger?
>>343615871
I didn't think it was a bad conclusion at all. I don't know why everyone is saying it is.
>>343615717
>think back on this post
>everyone buys 999 remaster
>they remaster VLR to fix the fucking animations and retarded transitions
>everyone buys VLR remaster
>they remaster ZTD so it the animations aren't too shit
Ooooh boy
>>343615876
The player makes the decisions and has the knowledge.
>>343616086
>they remaster VLR to fix the fucking animations and retarded transitions
but anon, that would require somewhat of a budget
>>343616086
>tfw I find ZTD's animations charming on their own way
>>343616086
>baseball cap faggot was in every single picture
Fuck this guy
The Junpei doll had his heart in half and this nigga blocked it.
>>343615949
haha pretty much the same. The spoilers I heard were about Zero's identity in both and what Luna was.
VLR spoilers were my own fault because I made a 999 thread just after beating it and someone just had a list of VLR spoilers as the 2nd response.
The game story is honestly best when you consider the VLR lead up endings canon. Like an infinite loop. It's not happy but it wraps up the best.
>>343616129
Don't add the player to the equation. That whole concept was dropped, it's not part of the story.
And even if you insist that the player did it:
What about that one time whereDiana has a 50/50 chance of killing Sigma. Same knowledge, same environment, same player decision, BUT: different timelines
>>343616220
>VLR spoilers were my own fault because I made a 999 thread just after beating it and someone just had a list of VLR spoilers as the 2nd response.
Was that the one where they posted a picture with THE spoiler of the game?
I might have been in that thread.
>>343616223
Yeah those D and C ends were my favorite parts because I was really impressed at how Uchikoshi could link them into VLR (Diana's call seemingly contradicting the amount of alive characters in VLR) without doing anything too dumb
>>343616083
It's being received well. The only reason people are saying otherwise is because it doesn't scratch every itch.
>>343616342
>That whole concept was dropped, it's not part of the story.
Nope, though Zero would sometimes alter the decisions people made, he was dead in several timelines when you still had decisions to make. Player input is valid.
>>343616014
>>343616305
Why is she so ambivalent about destroying herself and the other participants at first, then starts yelling when Junpei plans to get himself and Carlos gunned?
Plus, she manages to SHIFT after the shooting stops, how much danger does she actually need?
I think it's down to her being fucking crazy, applying logic doesn't work.
>>343616485
nothing else matters when you lose the one you care about....
THE MOST
>>343616342
>Don't add the player to the equation. That whole concept was dropped, it's not part of the story.
No it wasn't. player existence is alluded to by some zero akane talk I believe forget the quote. think it might be at end game scene.
It's bad writing because it's not actually RNG. The bullets being in different chambers in that universe makes no sense, even the dice rolls should always be the same without shift knowledge because you would roll with the exact same force every time.
>>343616485
>Why is she so ambivalent about destroying herself and the other participants at first, then starts yelling when Junpei plans to get himself and Carlos gunned?
Because they all live in her version. In the rec room she gets to experience Carlos and Junpei being fucking shot to death. Regardless of how many times you see it, seeing your childhood friend killed is probably not a nice thing to see.
>Plus, she manages to SHIFT after the shooting stops, how much danger does she actually need?
Does she? I thought she had something to do in that timeline, otherwise why would Carlos and Junpei try and save her?
>>343616376
only thing is carlos not having a role, but he could have just died from the virus.
>>343616637
She was supposed to get the X-Codes for their deaths so that they could leave after SHIFTing back
>we're going to protect you from the bullets with our bodies!
>>343616637
>I thought she had something to do in that timeline
Yeah, she had to stay behind and listen to the X-Passes, but then she just hops to where Carlos and Junpei are at will, after the guns power down.
ayy lmao
>>343616741
C U T E
>>343616354
I believe it was schematics of a Luna robot. I immediately checked out of the thread when I recognized it.
But honestly... Spoilers often entice me. I know I tried 999 a couple times before.... but it never grabbed me. Hearing that your childhood fried was the antagonist actually got me to play through it. And I'm still saying this is the most intriguing story in video games.
So what was the importance of the "become me" picture of Zero in the Pod Room?
Before the 1 Ward Reveal, it was assumed there were 2 vents to each Ward that Gab went through. But knowing it was only one ward, how did Gab traveling between wards and coming out the correct side work? I know there was a little room with a bed for him, but did both tunnels lead to it?
Did anyone else think that Gab was a robot at first? I was hoping the really stiff animation would be part of a reveal, rather than just animation on a budget.
>>343616746
perhaps she used another method to threaten her own life and shift? We dont' actually see her leave do we?
But how would a 999 remaster on anything but a 3DS work?
>>343616741
Carlos never asked for this
>Junpei if we die i'm gonna kill you
>immedily gets machine gunned up
>never kills junpei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTt0DJn0_CU
>yfw
Rank the following twists by how hard they blew your mind:
Zero's identity (999)
Dual screen twist
It's not a boat
muh face
Tenmyouji's identity
Moon
Phi's parents
Sleeping cycle and wards
Lmao there was an old guy in the corner
>>343616786
>So what was the importance of the "become me" picture of Zero in the Pod Room?
You gotta make the numbers on the board zero.
>Do you want to feel my chest?
How thirsty is she?
>>343616786
>Did anyone else think that Gab was a robot at first?
kek yes, I thought it was one of these
>Akane you will join me in the Free the Soul gathering in April
What did he mean by this?
>>343616786
>So what was the importance of the "become me" picture of Zero in the Pod Room?
it was a hint for the spinny number puzzle.
>how did Gab traveling between wards and coming out the correct side work?
You said it yourself, there was only one ward. There was only one room with two vents leading to it.
>Did anyone else think that Gab was a robot at first? I was hoping the really stiff animation would be part of a reveal, rather than just animation on a budget.
If you came into ZTD expecting good animation you deserved to be disappointed. It's a miracle we don't have the game in novel form.
>>343616853
I'm always fucking enamored with anyone who says that first quote. So lame but so great. Carlos is top tier.
>>343616861
>tenmyouji not obvious
biggest mindfuck was sigma robot arms before it was explained.
>>343616860
has someone uploaded the OST somewhere?
>>343616850
They probably just abandon the whole "bottom screen is akane" thing. At that point it's not too hard to replicate, as it wasn't a MASSIVE part of the game aside from the ending.
>>343616861
Sleep cycles+wards and Delta were easily the most impressive in execution, to the point that I had to stop and laugh and go over previous scenes in my head and laugh about it
The updated flowchart and the attention to detail with the status screen and x-pass monitor are brilliant, even if the twists themselves are silly
>Dual screen twist
What, the upside down puzzle? It's hardly a twist, it's completely irrelevant to the plot itself
>>343616463
>>343616463
>Zero would sometimes alter the decisions people made
Why does he need to if the player is there?
>he was dead in several timelines when you still had decisions to make.
Yes, but that could easily explained as people making decisions of their own. There was never a time where people wondered why they decided one way or the other when Zero was dead.
>Player input is valid.
But never hinted at in ZTD. Many-worlds theory could be just as valid.
>>343616861
I think for me, it's a tie between DS and Delta reveal. Delta reveal, I actually had to text my gf because I thought I was going insane. DS made me realize I fucking loved 999 though.
>>343616861
Dual Screen
Zero's Identity 999
Sigma's Face
Moon
Tenmyouji
Wheelchair man
Phi's parents
Ward layout
>>343616994
less cheesy due t multiple timelines where he could kill him
I thought that was going to be his motivation for killing junpei in the freezer scene.
>>343616861
From harderst to almost no fucking called it:
>Dual Screen twist
>Moon and all that gravity shit
>Lmao old guy
>Sleeping cycle and wards
>Zero (999)
>muh face
>Temyouji
>It's not a boat
>Phi's parents
Granted I played ever17 and R11 after 999 so I was on full alarm to find out Sigma's face the whole time.
>>343616861
Dual screen > not boat > sigma > sleeping cycle > Q > tenmyouji >> phi's parents
I thought the coolest thing from VLR was howthey already all had Radical6
>>343612084
Akane's logical in every aspect except Junpei.
Love is one hell of a drug.
>>343616861
Mindblown
>Loli screen
>muh face
>Akane = 0
Rest was either really obvious, kinda meh (not a boat) or dumb (wheelchair guy)
>>343616984
>If you came into ZTD expecting good animation you deserved to be disappointed. It's a miracle we don't have the game in novel form.
I'm just glad we can even argue our opinions over this game.
>>343616861
Nigger those aren't even the best twists
999oh shit the morphogenetic field actually alters the way you talk in the cutscenes! Also you remember shit from other playthroughsHORY SHIT SNAKE IS ALIVEZero's Identity
VLRHOLY FUCKING SHIT THEY CHANGED THEIR ANSWER AND MY CHARACTER REMEMBERS THE OTHER HISTORY?Muh faceK's identity
ZTDDelta is your son and Phi is your daughterSean is a robitMira is a serial killer
>>343616634
>No it wasn't. player existence is alluded to by some zero akane talk I believe forget the quote. think it might be at end game scene.
Can't remember anything like that at all. You sure there is something like that in the game?
>>343616861
>Actual "Holy shit" moment tier
Zero's Identity
Muh Face
Dual Screen
Not a boat
Sleeping Cycle and Wards
>Saw it coming tier
Tenmyouji's identity
Phi's Parents
Moon
>Wat tier
Ayy lmao old guy in the corner
>>343617290
Yup. Even on a shoestring budget, we bought it. Because we almost didn't have it.
>>343617113
>What, the upside down puzzle? It's hardly a twist, it's completely irrelevant to the plot itself
Are you fucking serious? I honestly don't know what to say.
>>343616861
During VLR kept me in a state of unresolvable discrepancies. I knew part, or hints of a twist, but I didn't have the whole context and I didn't know how to resolve the inconsistencies at the time. Like Clover being young, but Tenmyouji looking for Akane. I thought he might be Junpei, but then why is he old and everyone else young.
ZTD had a bit of that, mostly with Phi and her parents. I figured that Team D was a family, but I didn't know how it worked out.
VLR and ZTD's twist each had a foundation of an earlier game, while 999's twists were a bit more stand alone, so there wasn't any discrepancies between the information I was given and truth.
>>343617079
>aside from the ending
Which is a pretty massive part of the game.
>people think muh face was a better twist than robot arms
face was way to unbelievable, he could have looked in the water for god sakes.
I really thought he was a robot for a while which blew my mind.
also K being sigma when unmasked was pretty crazy.
>>343617195
are those games worth playing? Or is this trilogy good enough?
>>343617334
>>Saw it coming tier
>Moon
Yeah I don't know how anyone was surprised by this. It was obvious as fuck
Literally watched her mum blow her dad's brain out before offing herself soon afterwards.
Schadenfreude!
>>343617230
oh shit, honestly forgot about that.
>>343616861
I'm also honestly forgetting the moon twist. Without googling, it's earth, right?
>>343617121
>Why does he need to if the player is there?
The player isn't a character in the universe, the player is playing as Diana, Sean, or Carlos. Zero alters their decisions to set the clockwork for the ending. It requires a multitude of different experiences including ones where he dies. This is why characters will say "I didn't do that" but not mention it when doing the "right choice".
>Yes, but that could easily explained as people making decisions of their own.
It's seriously just Zero doing trial and error, knowing that in some timeline he will succeed.
>But never hinted at in ZTD. Many-worlds theory could be just as valid.
It's valid because you're not playing as you, you're playing as the characters. It's still player-input.
I just finished this shit. Hit me with all the little things you loved.Sigma calls Junpei TenmyoujiSigma and Phi can't lift the Force Quit Box but Sean is shown manhandling the shit out of it laterAny discussion about how Zero 1 isn't related to Zero 2That we saw the Muh 6 billion timeline
Those are the main ones I remember
>>343616861
Sleep cycles/wards and phi's parents were predicted by /v/ back in April so that wasn't very impactful.
Sleep cycles/wards and Delta reveal didn't really affect the story in any meaningful way in my opinion. Honestly, Delta could have been holed up in a surveillance room the entire time and it wouldn't be really that different from the story we have now.
>>343617391
Unless I'm forgetting some other "Dual Screen" twist
The upside down display for the puzzle was seriously my least favorite thing about 999, it just struck me as an abstract way of conveying the morphogenetic connection between Junpei and Akane. If it was supposed to be impressive or emotional or surprising then it failed miserably in my opinion.
Enlighten me; Why are people saying it was good?
>>343617517
How is she so sexy. It's unreal.
>>343617471
Yes, those two are easily one of the best Uchi's works. Ever17 pacing can be a drag but once you get to true end you're in some serious shit.
Now get the fuck out of here before someone spoil the game.
>>343617113
Either you didn't play 999, or you simply didn't understand it. In order not to insult your attentiveness or intelligence, I will assume you just skipped it and jumped straight to VLR.
>>343617471
play the first one, its the most standalone. If you like it, play the second. At that point you'll probably want to play the third one.
>>343617331
Yes, fuck someone mentioned it and I hoped he would be in this thread to remind me. it's only a passing comment during one of deltas monologues. Not even sure if he was addressing akane or if it was akane who mentioned it passingly when talking about that meeting.
I don't understand why someone necessarily has to die when your body does. There are infinite universes, and infinity plus one equals infinity, right? So the consiousnesses just continuously jump, right?
Also, a lot of people feel that mind hack was a cop out. But wasn't it basically the theoretical ability that snake described in the library?
>>343617471
I really enjoyed both games
The shitiness of the non-true routes in E17 and the ending of R11 are overexaggerated in my opinion
>>343617585All text displayed on the bottom screen is from Akane as a child.
>>343617374I pirated it because i'm out of a job atm ;_;... will buy as soon as I can
>>343617439
It is, but it's not impossible to port over.
>>343617591
It's because she's an E-cup
>>343617662
>>343617585
That. It was a bit abstract, so I don't blame you for not fully getting/feeling it. It fucked my shit though.
>>343617560
>Sigma and Phi can't lift the Force Quit Box but Sean is shown manhandling the shit out of it later
Holy shit I didn't even think about that
I really hate Phi being Sigma's kid. It's just so fucking dumb. Characters having secret family relationships are the worst plot twists ever.
Literally just finished the game, and I've gotta ask, am I a complete retard for not understanding whereDelta suddenly appeared from?I swear there was no fucking mention of an old man in a chair at all up to that point and suddenly he's just there and everyone's acting like it's the most natural thing in the world? Nevermind him also being in the library for the Perceptive End
Someone please explain this shit to me if there even is an explanation
>>343617585
The point is the whole time you're playing as Akane who is accesing memefield through Junpei.
Top screen is Junpei PoV while bottom screen is hers. Notice the narrative from bottom screen sounds more childish compared to the top one since Akane was still a child and her vocabulary of complex words is limited.
This literally blew my anus.
>>343617662
Thank you
I completely missed this assuming it was indirectly revealed in the end
I never went back to replay it so I never picked up on it afterward either
>>343617608
Insulting me with an answer would be better than wasting replies with empty shitposting
>>343617859
He's been there the whole time you just never get to see him. The characters in Q-team are fully aware of his existence
"imagine this computer with infinite realities being processed within it, if someone could operate such computer... 61404091, keep this number in mind"
>Holy shit, Uchikoshi is a genius, the player is operating such computer, the number is the password to the Door of truth in the alternate timeline!
>mfw it was just the password to open Q's helmet, and it was revealed right away
>a totally pointless thing since we already knew Q was a robot
Goddam this game...
>>343617859
There are hints here and there, you can see his shadow in some cutscenes. Don't forget that no one seems to mention Sean by name and that when Q is mentioned to be dead no one specifies a kid.
>Zero Escape 4
>Start the game
>You get shifted to a timeline where you die instantly
>Reloading the game just gives you more death scenes
fund it
>>343617559
I agree with all the points you made. But doesn't that mean, from a story perspective, that the characters sometimes make different decisions with the same knowledge in the same environment, as seen in the final decision?
>>343617859
It's contrived, but whenever the characters talk about "Q", they are referring to the old man. The robot boy is called Sean, and was never known as Q apart from in the promotional material for the game.
>>343617601
>>343617638
>>343617660
Is it easy to play through, though? Like, I don't want to watch the same cutscenes and not be able to fast-forward/skip them
>>343617859
the "Q" known by the cast and registered in the X-pass system is Delta/Zero, who is always offscreen because he's feigning being blind, deaf, and dumb. He's dead weight to Q team and thus he's ignored
All implications that robot Sean is Q are deliberate to throw you off
>>343617859
I realized the reason for this later, but I was annoyed during the library seek because whenever I would turn the camera, it was actually moving in a circle rather than just rotating. Obviously that's where Delta was sitting, whereas on other teams, they could simply have been moving around.
They pretty much just ignored him after a point since they didn't feel he was important. Honestly seems pretty reasonable to me. They did mention him a few times, after all. But it's not like they expected him to help.
>>343617970
>zero escape 4
>actually set in the DBZ universe (carlos blue aura)
>get is set around finding the dragon balls to learn the identity of the fanatic
>>343618016
More-or-less. The whole theme of the game is about decisions and how we seem to just try all of them so we can get all the endings. Now, at the end, there's a new origin point as opposed to a dead end. The choice may not matter, since there is now an infinite number of new possibilities that are possible.
Phi is a B-cup *at most*, right?
>>343618119
She's a D-cup! Why would she lie?
>>343618119
Yes
C-cup pregnant
>>343618048
You can fast forward previously read text in both and R11 has little/no repetition in it
>>343618119
She just dresses modestly
>>343618048
Once you beat the game, then when you replay a section you have already done, you can fast forward through all text. And any puzzles you've already done are also super easy, you can skip certain parts of the rooms even if you know the right codes and stuff like that. You might end listening to similar dialogue on different routes, but that's pretty minimal
Also leave the thread before you get spoiled
>>343618119
she's wearing bindings, she's easily an F-cup.
>>343618119
Yes. I can't believe people take her seriously when she claimed hers are C and D in VLR and ZTD respectively. Sigma was clearly being sarcastic at VLR.
>>343618149
>lies about size
>pants actually gets caught on fire and she dies in an incinerator
poetry.
>>343617827
fuck, i don't recall any of your first spoiler.
I still call Akane "June"
Her (June's) sweater is the cutest thing in video games.
You may only sex one girl.
Who?
Akane, personally.
Even though the animations were garbage I loved the character designs so much besides Mira. Phi's outfit is so fucking good
>>343618048
Actually, don't listen to me. I'm dumb and thought you were talking about ZE, not R11 and E17.
>>343617638
>>343618210
These are me talking about 999, cause I'm dumb
>>343617929
>>343617942
>>343617967
>>343618020
>>343618089
>>343618090
ok that makes a little bit more sense then, I'd already had the idea that Q was the kid from before the release. Still completely threw me off at the reveal, I honestly thought I'd just missed some plot point earlier on
>>343618119
If you look at the swimsuit pic which I think is canon she isn't flat like it's implied. Probably actually is C cup.
Although with uchi twitter account the fanart actually has some fairly big boobs.
>>343618297
Definitely Phi
>>343618297
Phi would be the only enjoyable one because everyone else is either a dope for another person or a fucking murderer.
Also, I love me some d-cups.
>>343618297
The answer is Phi, right?
It's not really up for debate.
>>343618297
Phi because the other girls are loved genuinely by someone else.
>>343618297
phi is a cutie pie
>>343618109
Wait, you aren't the same Anon as >>343615293 , are you?
Because I was arguing against
>free will is an illusion and you will always make the same decision if you have the same knowledge in that same environment
the whole time.
>>343618241
Something that particularly triggered me aside from the usual bullshit was Diana walking right into the incinerator shortly after it erased all that trash including a screwdriver and other metal shit and destroyed it all without a trace and then picked up a tiny little piece of metal with her bare hands and rolled it around in her palm. Even assuming there is a good reason the metal still exists how is it not searing her flesh?
>>343618349
That's the goal
You were confused in the exact way that Uchikoshi intended
>>343617560
Some of the cutscenes (unintentionally?) used the bad animation to make some moments much funnier
for examplecarlos's reactions to junpei's hot dog joke or 10 MONTHS
>>343618483
I am not, in-fact, that anon.
>>343615457
imo
999 > ztd > vlr
but ztd and vlr are really fucking close
vlr had more shitty moments but i felt like the twists were better executed and aside from the blatant cliffhanger ending they wrapped up a bunch of mysteries
i enjoyed my time a lot with ztd but so many things just went completely unanswered
like wtf happened to the aliens and why was gab just randomly killed
also im a little pissed at the ending, at least let us have the decision of killing delta or not
>Mira on screen
>have to resist the urge to fap every 2 minutes
sometimes censorship is a good thing
>>343617859
Yeah, this was me when I was at the beginning of the end.
>>343617560Q's X pass is eye not because of the Eyeball shaped helmet on Sean's head but because he's the fucking eyes for the player
>>343618687
>like wtf happened to the aliens and why was gab just randomly killed
COMPLEX MOTIVES
> at least let us have the decision of killing delta or not
you missed the point of the ending.
999 on Vita and PC is cool. But how are they going to do the 2nd screen? Just scrap it like VLR on Vita?
But the 2nd screen in VLR was Sigma's robo eye.
>>343618827
yeah its open to interpretation and let the characters have a choice for themselves or whatever
but really what was the point of even showing that cutscene
at least the cinema files elaborated a tiny bit
>>343618827
It might not be aliens, it could be some Atlantis advanced tech found shit.
>>343618687
I thinkGab randomly being killedis sono one worries about leaving him behind when they all SHIFT
>>343618576
Well shit. Completely agree with your view on the player and Zero btw.
>>343618901
The could just split it up like an emulator but it would be pretty suspicious.
>>343618297
Akane. She is so cute!
>>343618901
I hope they don't just scrap it since it's so important for the tweeest. I guess they'll have to find a way to implement something similar naturally, but it'd be difficult to pull of I imagine
>>343618910
The point is that the choice doesn't matter at this point. It's the origin point of the "save the human race" timeline. Zero says it himself, he created a timeline where Radical-6 is not released but a possibility of 8 billion casualites exist. By creating more espers he now has made a timeline that has an infinite number of possibilities to stop the extinction from happening.
>>343618901
What's the bottom screen on 3DS like for ZTD?
>>343615545
There's no point to russian roulette, then? Since all of them be it live round or not will kill you?
Can we all agree that Eric is hands down the fucking worst character in any of the ZE games?
>>343618901
>the 2nd screen in VLR was Sigma's robo eye
never heard of this but it makes sense i guess
>>343619087
seconding this question, i played on PC
>>343619130
no disagreement here
I really wanted Sigma to deck him when he was kept pointing the shotgun at everyone.
Just finished it. Am I retarded or did Kyle and ? not play any role in ZTD?
Also how did they make Carlos so fucking pure and perfect?
>>343619130
Better than Alice
>>343619079
ok i guess thats cool thanks anon
>>343619130
vlr clover and alice are definitely worse than eric
although eric was fucking nuts he was a little sympathetic because of his fucked up life and how sometimes he was a bro for sean
>>343619130
>not Delta
>>343619130
>eric is the worst ZE character in any of the games
that's not how you spell alice
>>343619196
You're straight tripping balls.
>>343619130
No, pointless characters like alice and lotus exist
eric is annoying but interesting and somewhat tragic that he turns into his father
>>343619195
They do not have any role.
Carlos is all American.
>>343615681
>skippable
How is it skippable? Is there a panic button for each puzzle room?
>>343619130
mira dragged eric down with her
he would be somewhat fine if he wasn't so hung up about her
>>343619243
lotus at the very least has some use in the story. She's there to be sexy and is also good at computers.
>>343619162
Notice the scan lines.
>343618337
kek
>>343618171
Okay, I heard it's pretty much the same story as VLR/999 but I'm still intrigued.
>>343619130
He's at least a little bit sympathetic despite what a loon he can be, so I find him way more interesting than Alice for example
>>343619305
andher kids were part of the original experiment Akane was involved in
>>343616223
All endings are canon in multiple timelines story like this.
>>343619305
alternatively, they could have not had info locked behind a computer because they had no reason to for that one puzzle.
Only connection is her daughter being in the first game. At least alice had urgency with the bomb but she could have been replaced with a god damn calculator.
>>343618480
This. Her ZTD makeup would look godawful with red hair though.
Carlos for top husbando though.
Finally finished it, Not great but it got the job done. I really feel like this game would have worked better if it wasn't a direct sequel to vlr. The twists would have packed more of a punch and would have kept you on your toes a bit more.
Also my waifu is a !
>>343619275
In VLR there is a safe in each puzzle room with two codes. One for unlocking the exit, and one for bonus files. The codes are stored in your files and can be revisited on consequent playthroughs, so instead of powerplaying through the mini-games you can just enter the password and be done with it.
>>343619306
>>343618901
huh, never seen anyone mention this.
neat
Can someone tell me why the fuck in the final segment everyone just ignores the fact thatMira is a serial killerdespite claiming they have memories from every timeline
>>343619561
because they are more worried about how eric and his shotgun will react if they mention it.
>>343619482
>calling your waifu a !
You don't deserve her
>>343610169
>>343610316
I actually got that one because I finished theTwins endingand thought that the kid's name wasDelta
The moment was pretty wtf when I gave it a shot
>>343619689
i kekd
>>343619130
Have to agree with the others. Mira is much worse than him. Definitely near the bottom.
More of an argument would be who's best. It would almost definitely be Sigma though. Phi close 2nd.
>>343619859
Erotic
>>343619859Depressed and desperate Diana a best/spoiler]
>>343619691
Her model is way cuter than her art. It should be the other way around!
>>343619195
Carlos is dumb. Like Jumpy and June said, why the fuck did he just wait 10 months?
>>343619859
Mods ban this sicko
>>343619957
Those fucking dopey eyes
>>343619894
Sigma and Phi when the bants are flowing
Crazy Akane.SHIFTerCarlos
>>343615681
I think other than shitty character expressions, the biggest thing I hold against VLR is how it would lock you out of the main key if you got the alternative key (or whatever) and vice versa.
>>343619306
>sigma never mentions "my eye looks fucking digital"
>never touches that eye
Uchi pls
>>343619859
DELETE THIS
>>343619072
>Seek a way meowt!
Cute!
>>343619869
>>343619689
This shit bothers me but OP isn't wrong.
>>343620181
yeah the eye was stupid. being old sure if there was no water.
all he needed was robot arms
>>343616861
>It's not a boat
After they mentioned a replica and something about the gigantic sinking, I just knew they weren't on a boat.
>>343620254
The real answer is they are more concerned about delta at that moment and she turns herself in and goes back to the past to not kill anyone after magically being cured anyway.
What the fuck?
I can't see past this post >>343619859
I see it has 4 replies, and I know I've made at least 2 after this. Never had this problem before.
>>343620404
press F5
>>343619859
LEWD
>>343620404
Did you get all executions?
>>343620439
he cant see your post lol
>>343616861
>Moon
When I got Dio's end I thought we were on moon for a good while.
>>343619129
In Russian Roulette only one chamber is loaded.
>>343620404
HE WAS MINDHACKED
ABANDON THREAD
>>343620439
I was on chrome. On FF now and no problem.
Weird.
>>343620404
Clear your cache or fix your internet connectionIf you ever have the same problem as this guy since he can't read this
I'm stuck in the Healing room.I'm missing pictures of the A and B piano keys. I have four room patterns unlocked. I haven't solved the pitcher and glass puzzle. I have no idea how to progress.
>there will never be a mecha anime with Carlos and Junpei as the protagonists
Life's unfair
>>343620565
Put all the keys who's holes you have unlocked, into the machine. New room.
>>343620565
Have you gotThe chair key picture. The blooming flower key picture, the cup in the circular pattern picture?
>>343620550
>>343620547
negro.
>>343619978
He probably did and didn't is my opinion on it.
Him deciding to stay or stop Zero would have been a choice he made. The thing is we only see the timeline where he stayed.
>>343616861
The boat will always be the top tier twist.
>>343620730
but he clearly came to the site with two ambulances and in full firefighter gear.
>>343620624
Thanks, that did it.
>>343620404
update on my chrome for science.
>>343620793
The ambulances and gear was probably from when D Team left. Remember, they got transported to the timeline where they set the bomb but did so after the ceiling had collapsed, which means that they arrived after D team left and already called for help.
I do wonder what happened to Carlos in the VLR timeline. Was he one of the 6 BILLION or was he able to avoid dying because of SHIFT?
>>343610923
I just realized something. If you just do the votes were everyone lives then you don't need need to do the others assuming you know the passwords.
>>343620939
carlos is quark
>>343620697
Fuck that blooming flower, I hate these kinds of puzzles. I sat there for 20 minutes till I realized all you have to do is press the pink fields once each.
>>343620898
oddly enough, i do have 4chan whitelisted.
>>343620904
i don't buy this. Carlos would have mentioned something.
OFF-TOPIC
Carlos and Sigma had best VA, right?
Anyone else disappointed with the Radical-6 explanation?Like the location had nothing to do with why Radical-6 was there, and it is almost singlehandedly spread because of Mira jabbing someone with a syringe for shits and giggles. It's really dumb that it entirely hinges on an obsessive emotionless killer to completely abandon their MO, despite having killed over 18 people the same exact way for a specific purpose over the course of years and even in this game still wants to kill so she can remove a heart and understand emotions. Doing that with Radical-6 does NOTHING for her obsession.
>>343621003
I fucking tweeted at twinfinite because their fucking walkthrough just said "solve it" --
why the fuck do they think I'm there? Fucking christ.
>>343621028She was dying and she wanted payback
>>343621019
>Carlos and Sigma had best VA, right?
Naturally. I also like Delta's.
>>343621028
>VLR
>RADICAL 6 GUYS EVERYONE IS DEAD!!!!
>GET TO NEVADA!!!!
>ZTD
>Anyway here's that virus or whatever.
>>343621028
Actually the better question is where it came from and is axelavir from vlr just that other virus?
>>343621028It was revenge for D team blowing them the fuck out
>>343621095
phi was good, voice suits her
>>343621145
>>343621095
Did Eric remind anyone else of a wannabe Yuri?
>>343609586
Kojima letting people know he’s not “a gay” (Jesus Christ, really?), and doesn’t want people to get the wrong idea just because he’s wearing a rainbow-patterned New Order T-shirt. By itself, this tweet comes off as homophobic, but others have claimed that Kojima’s tweet is an answer to questions of whether he was homosexual for wearing the rainbow-patterned shirt, to which I’ve found no evidence. Still, earnestly informing people that you’re not gay because of how a T-shirt looks is pretty gross, but it could have been grosser. I can think of analogies to show how problematic this way of thinking is, but it just makes me feel worse.
Even if someone can come up with apologia for the homophobic tweet, there’s still this transphobic shit in the Policenauts game he wrote and directed before he did Metal Gear Solid, anyway
Any moment that had Blue Bird Lamentation kick in was god tier. Fact.
did people really have -that- much trouble with the heart puzzle?
Once you figure out how to fill the white spaces in the upper right and lower right it's ez pz
do most people just focus on how they're going to make the heart instead of how they're going to fill the white parts instead?
>>343621213
You understand, that the chambers in russain roulette aren't blank, but empty? Hence the click.
>>343621095
Delta and Zero were great, although I had a really hard time to understand Zero in the beginning. He sounded way too muffled, later interactions were clearer though.
>>343621192
Eric was awful.Do you get to the cloud district often?
>>343621280
I played on PC with a controller and that was my first seek a way out. I couldn't access the control instructions (every time after, I could) and I had no fucking clue you could rotate.. or that you couldn't select and rotate with the bumpers. Seriously awful.
>>343621280
It fucked me up for ages. I was so happy when I finally got it
I haven´t finished the game yet but why is Phi such insane paranoid bitch?
>Oh shit we are poisoned
>Oh look carlos sent us antidote
>wait what if he sent poison to double poison us?
>why would he do that
>y-you decide Diana
>>343621280
Personally my problem with it was that no piece had only a single place where it could be. The other puzzles where you have to put the items in boxes with the blue/red Xs, there was at least one item that could only fit in one place.
It's no Transporter Room but still.
>>343621335
I only just recently got back into Skyrim and only took a break to play this game. I don't know if I should laugh or hate you. Is that actually the same VA?
Someone help an anon out here, please. C team, infirmary, I searched all over the place, gotthe spray, the barcode reader, the stethoscope and the syringe.Now what do I do?I'm stuck.
>>343621483
She's worst girl, that's why.
The post-game epilogues reveal that in this final timeline, Carlos' sister recovers from an illness and also gains the ability to jump between timelines. Carlos has become a brother figure to Akane and Junpei, who are to be married, and the three of them vow to stop the religious extremist. Mira has turned herself in for her killings and married Eric, but Sean breaks her out of prison so that they can use the transporter to stop Mira from committing her murders in the past. It is revealed that the 1904 version of Phi is speculated to have become a researcher who studied the transporter well into her 100s.
Where the fuck was this? I don't remember this at all
>>343621513
Yes, Keith Silverstein also standard voice for several Dunmer and other named people.
>>343621516
Spray the lockers
>>343621526
Files
>>343621019
>>343621192
>>343621335
I just realized you might be talking about the English dub. >>343621095 meant the nipponese ones (Sigma and Carlos had big name JP VAs).
>>343617319
>Mira is a serial kller
>twist
People called it before the game was even released. Even in game, it was unsubtle as fuck. When Eric mentions the serial killer, the camera "mysteriously" focuses on Mira's slight smirk.
>>343617319I'm not going to say I knew it 100% but I really thought she was the Heart Ripper after they talk about this person in Ward Q and 2 of her X-passes are "HEART" and "RIP". It didn't come as a big tweest to me.
>>343609586
I legitimately thought that Carlos had lost his mind or was being mind hacked during this whole part.
>>343621521
yeah I can see that. She is paranoid about absolutely fucking everything, she has to nitpick every single thing like autist. Really makes me think of /v/
>>343621607
Thanks, anon.
I never noticed the jiggle
>>343621624
yeah. Is JP good? I only didn't like Q team's VA but I feel like the intentional vibe from them is to be off-putting.
>>343621649
After the execution round the very first thing I triggered was that whole Mira spiel. Also, that fucking crossbow ending. Just shut up, we get it you're insane!
>>343621521
>cute
>worst girl
I'm not following
>>343621516
Fuck this part to be honest.
I spray the luminol into the floor leading the exit and didn't get any reaction while somehow spraying it to the locker while having your camera shifted to it reveal the blood trail.
Stuck for almost 15 minutes. Fucking bullshit.
>>343621723
I only spotted it 4-5 times throughout the whole game.
It didn't really do it for me, Mira as a character is just too offputting for her to be sexy.
>>343621672
>BTW I can hack people to do what I want but it only works with Eric or maybe Diana but only when she is killing people.
Mind Hack is bullshit.
>>343621801
She wasn't even cute. She just had tits. Lotus was best oppai girl
>>343609865
>you
Quitimplying we are anyone but Delta.
>>343621801
I'm not someone for disliking fanservice but that outfit was more annoying than anything else. Who the hell walks around like that.
Also, was it a bug or did anyone else notice that most of the time Miras eyes were open when they were put to sleep?
>>343621798
>>343621516
Huh. I had 0 problems with this room.
It was only the transporter room where I felt like a complete retard, especially since I study engineering.
>>343609956
You have to see all the FMVs ofthe bombs strapped to each teams neckYou do that by going back and repicking the team you aren't supposed to after you've done them all at least once.
Was there any actual mention of Dio, aside from that one bit about how Brother has a brother? I thought I read somewhere that Dio would show up or be mentioned but not in the way we know him.
Quick question, have any of you done and had fun with subsequent playthroughs?
I've had, I think, the main twists of the series spoiled by a friend, but it still seems like a fun series to play through.
I haven't had the specifics of the puzzles spoiled, just the key plot points, and don't know if the ride will be as much fun knowing what that I wont be shocked by key twists/notice things you should only notice on a second play.
>>343621940
I got stuck on the pill capsules in Biolab... But didn't have a problem with any of the others.
>>343622134
I replayed 999 once. I would do VLR but I'm not deleting my save for that.and I still have flashbacks of the door opening simulator
>>343622000
Nice trips.
But seriously. Like how the dice game goes, just try some scenarios multiple times. They should be obvious. Especially if you played VLR.
>>343622092
Nope.Dio wouldn't be alive at that point anyways and he wasn't a SHIFTer. What bugged me is they never mention Kyle (who supposedly jumped to 2028 according to VLR's epilogue) and ignored the fact that Tenmyouji will never meet Quark ;-;
>>343621926I think she's just faking the sleeping, if I remember right she wasn't injected with drugs
>>343622227
But he does in one timeline. All those timelines exist.
>>343622092
There was a brief mention of a second "we" -- right? The 2nd being Phi?
>>343622228
>>343621926
yeah,Delta mentions that near the end of the game that he let her run train on the other participants. She killed Sigma, Phi, and Diana that way. She was obviously the cloaked figure.
>>343622227
Luna got mentioned more by name and implications. Fun times.
>>343622134
Well, tell us how much you know, since there is a lot to figure out.
>>343621506
Actually, the piece that goes in the upper left can ONLY go in the upper left due to its shape
It can -technically- 'fit' into one other spot, but it leaves such a wide strip of white it's impossible for any piece to fill the narrow 4-5 spaces of it, leaving the upper left the only place it could be
knowing that, it means that the construction of the upper right can only go one way as well
it's the lower left/right that tend to absolutely fuck people up afaik
>>343622227
I think one of Junpei's X-codes was Quark, I liked that
So I've never played this franchise before but it seems interesting.
I've a hacked 3DS as I assume the game is on 3DS aswell?
Or should i just go for the steam version?
>>343622303
That cloaked bit was really badly done. I mean, who has black fingernails in this game we've seen several times now?
So how did Delta know about these alternate timelines in order to set all these things up?
>>343622360
Don't play this one first then
get 999 and VLR and play them in that order, THEN get ZTD
>>343622402
MIND
HAXORZ
>>343622140
Yeah, I got that instantly, how they were numbers.
Did no one else have any trouble with the transporter room?
>>343622360
You're really going to want to start with 999 which MUST be played on DS. No exceptions. I played through VLR on 3DS and it was great. However, ZTD was a little rough on 3DS. There is a major drop in the quality of textures and you still experience severe frame drops at times. And that's on a New 3DS.
>Gab isn't walking to the other wards he just eats his cheese then sleeps on a blanket for an hour before wandering out to repeat the scenario
Fucking lol
>>343622402
mindhax
>>343622421
you can play VLR before 999, you can even play ZTD before 999 but not VLR
>>343622191
kek. Now that you remind me....
>>343622360
Play 999 and VLR first, and try to not get spoiled.
Seriously, Zero Time Dilemma won't make much sense without playing the other ones, and even if it does it spoils the other two heavily for firsttimers imo
>>343622386
Yeah and you can hear the clacking of her heels when she walks away.
>>343622402
Literally mindhax
>>343622481
He was Mind Hacked all along!
>>343622421
>>343622482
But to do that, we would've had to met someone who knew about everything that happened. Which does not fit the bill for any of our heroes.
>>343622437
Transporter room drove me nuts. I had to bust out post it notes to sort that out. Worst room was the Reactor for me because I couldn't see how the smelting worked. Once I figured that out it was cruise.
>>343616861
The Moon twist was made even better with the DIS DA FUTURE reveal. That's my top pick
>>343622437
Naw. Comp Sci major so number conversions are extremely common with binary and hex. Math after converting came very easily for me. I DID right it all out on the memo pad though.
>>343622534
>we
I-I meant he
Someone make a new thread
>>343613523
1) Literal shadows from Delta in most Q team scenes (here are the shadows from Pop-off, for example).
2) "The old man in the wheel chair" dialogue
3) If you try to select "Q" in the "who to shoot" scene, it will say to select Q's real name. If you input "Sean," it will give an error. If you choose "me" or "myself," the game will say "you cannot commit suicide." - Credit for expanding this goes to overchargext
4) If you say that "Q" killed Mira, Eirc will say "that's impossible!," and if you select "Sean," or "me," he'll say "I knew it was you!" - credit for expanding this goes to Ro9ge
5) "The truth is invisible" anagram
6) The parasite discussion
7) Carlos/Diana not knowing why they pressed the decontamination button, or the bad execution choice (mindhacking). Sean never claimed he didn't do it, as he can't be mindhacked.
8) The anagram about the 10 that Akane finds
9) The scene after the radical 6 is chosen to not be injected where Eric talks to Gab and calls him "Old man," he is actually talking to Delta. Both Eric and Mira are looking to the screen (to Delta), and Sean asks if they could speak. - Credit goes to untuned of the Something Awful Forum, and to Ro9ge for elaborating.
10) Q never has a portrait in the status screen, but there is one of Sean inside the Study - Credit goes to YoshiOfYellow of the Something Awful Forum
11) "Even Q ... he couldn't see or hear when" (when talking about Q team execution) - Credit goes to voltcatfish of the Something Awful forums)
12) Sean in Pop-off says "you are all really important to me" rather than "you both are really important to me," despite the fact he only knows Q team.
13) When Akane/June transport to the VLR timeline, Zero reveals that he has a little sister
14) When Zero tells Sean about the "old man" who visited him.
15) Eric says "I know the leader's supposed to decide who to vote for but...", because Delta is believed to be blind and deaf
>>343621926
Just to be clear, Delta deliberately says he let her free roam the facility and didn't inject her with any amnesia drugs.
>>343622307Someting about Akane in 999, can't remember that was a longer time agoSigma is old in VLR, sends his mine back in time for ZTDPretty much the end spoilers of ZTD, who Delta is etc
It's my own fault for not telling my friend to shut up, but it was an interesting story to hear about. Now I just don't know if it's worth playing through.
>>343622437
I didn't have trouble with the transporter room but I thought thatthe numbers on the 10 sided shapes had to be multiplied instead of being directly the number, I didn't find a way of getting the number I wanted so I just went online and used a base-10 to base-13 calculator.
>>343622524
>>343622481Why did Delta shoot Gab in the second to last timeline?
>>343622360
Emulate 999 on PC or on 3DS if you can first.
Pirate VLR on 3DS next then Pirate ZTD on PC last.
Get the fuck out of here before you get spoiled.
The game relies heavily on plot so if you get get spoiled might as well skip the fucking game.
Was there ever a puzzle in this game that was more bullshit than the Q-room's dice puzzle?
Overall, did you guys think the puzzles were easier in this one?
Fuck the flow-chart unlocks, though, those were some obscure bullshit with how you should see all executions first.
>>343622641
Same reason Eric shothimselfMind Hacks!
>>343622603
here you go dude
>>343622571
>>343622571
>>343622360
yeah, emulate 999, LEARN ABOUT THE SAVE BUG IN VLR, then play ZTD.
hope you can join us in waifu discussion at another point.
>>343622628
16) Eric is suspicious of Sean because he isn't on the X-passes - Credit goes to Ro9ge
17) If you try to shoot Mira, she will shoot twice before the X-pass notification comes on, because she also shoots Delta - Credit goes to Ro9ge
18) Despite the fact that Carlos seems to know Q, he doesn't recognize the robot that looks like Sean - Credit goes to zatchel1
19) Towards the end of the C-team ending, when listening to the recording of Zero, Zero specifically says that he's dead in this timeline, and that Carlos executed him. This is also the timeline in which all of Q-team dies because Carlos decided to execute Q team. - Credit goes to Ro9ge
20) After Phi and Delta and delta are born, the status screen shows Q and Phi alive. Status before birth and status after birth - Credit goes to YouWithTheFace
21) Decision game starts with "deci," which means ten - Credit goes to ultramario1998.
22) When Sean decides to stay behind after pressing the Decontamination button, he is staying behind for Q, and it becomes clear with close examination that Q is also chained, and Q is the one staying behind. Sean is looking at the Camera (at Delta) when he says that he stayed behind because of him. And when they try to unchain Q, they are always trying to get it off the pole, and not off Gab's paw. Here is an image that demonstrates this.. - Credit goes to Ro0ge, and BloodTrain for the image.
23) In the ending of the VLR timeline, Sigma asks "a child?" When he sees Sean's corpse, despite the previous indications that he knew Q was handicapped in another scene. Q doesn't show up as dead in the status screen. - Credit goes to Thisisalsomypass
24) Generally, throughout C and D team fragments, they indicate they know Q at least somewhat, despite the fact that if you win the coin toss, it is revealed that no one seems to know Sean. - Credit goes to Ro9ge
>>343622641
For shock value
>>343622628
3 got me good.
After learning of Sean I was really confused why it just gives an error.
>>343622590
I'm on to you, complex motives
>>343622727
That doesn't make any sense. The players the collective Morphogenetic Field and Delta (who has consciousness from it like every other human) was the means for the player to affect the choices in ZTD. So Delta never mindhacks himself. He deliberately killed Gab and the reason is never really given.
so is left the brother that delta refers to as not being related by blood? i need to revisit dios ending in VLR to do some fact checking.
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>>343622751
So 999 which is on DS, can it be played on the 3DS without these DS carts that are necessary to play DS games?
>>343622951
Emulate it on PC if you want to
>>343622939
Yes. I believe left was also an esper.
>>343622939
yes
>>343622845
It was a joke you dolt.
>>343622951
Not sure what this is asking, but 3DS is backwards compatible.
>>343623087
10/stupid joke my man
>>343623165
In all honesty, it was almost liked they cared more for the damn dog than for anyone else.
>7 people got murdered
>GAB YOU'RE OKAY I'M SO GLAD
Probably just another reason to make them SHIFT.
>>343623014
ill check it out, thanks
>>343623098
What I meant was that a hacked 3DS cannot play DS games without a special "jailbreaked" cart, you cant simply download DS games and play them.
>>343611880
She still knows how to make Junpei flustered
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>>343623343
New thread
>>343623528
already one up
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>>343623578
Shit. I missed it. Gotta put zero in the OP
>>343622574
Fuck, eh. I study electrical, so i'm used to hex and binary, but I didn't even think that this would go base-13 (despite fucking playing these games) and I fucking hated how the 'war game' only had 3 cards that seemed to play at random order.
It was like 3 am when I was there and I was tired of bullshit. Fucking aliens.
>>343622570
My desk is covered in notes. A post-it covered in X-passes before I knew they wouldn't work in alternate timelines.
>>343623578
>not putting ZTD, Zero escape or zero time dilemma anywhere.
>>343623791
I know. That's why I accidentally made the new one.
>>343622639
I know exactly what you're referring to, but I still don't fucking get it.
I actually feel like retard for not getting that room.
