Zero Time Dilemma - best girl edition
Other thread hit the bump limit.
>asking for help in puzzles
>C-team best team
>complaining about the ending
Mark your spoilers
Whats the 9 letter word for the blue bird?
Didn't play the game just reading the spoilers.What's the story behind Delta's eyes?
I can't believe Carlos is still single. He's a hot firefighter who looks out for his family. If I was a woman, I'd be dripping like a leaky tap whenever he appeared.
>>343147625
It'sBLUE BIRD. THERE IS A SPACE.
>>343147625Music (space) Box
>>343147625
Really nigger
>>343147118
>yfw 1/216Ok, I havent beaten the game and dont want spoilers but i saw a thread with 0 responses and wanted to get a post in about having to get 3 1's
>>343147729
it'll also acceptmusic box.
THE ALIEN TRANSPORTER ROOM IS THE MOST IRRITATING PUZZLE ROOM YET
OH MY LIVING FUCK
DO I ACTUALLY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE NUMBER VALUES FOR ALL THESE STUPID ASS SYMBOLS WITH A RNG BASED GREATER THAN OR LESS THAN CARD GAME!?!?
WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>343147889
You don't even need that when you know what prime numbers are.
>>343147889
Should have stayed awake during your math classes, faggot.
>>343147889wind = 0
sun = 1
moon = 2
>>343147889
Look at the book again for chapter two, if you cant solve it from there you don't deserve to live
>supposed to believe that Mira is some super hot goddess piece of eye candy or something
>her model just makes her look like some diseased crack whore
nah fuck marking spoilers if people don't want to get spoiled they shouldn't be here in the first place
>>343147806
the developers were generous and reduced it to 6 possibilities
>>343147687
It's not that women aren't interested in Carlos.
It's that Carlos isn't interested in anyone but his imouto.
>>343147889
Yes, or you can cheat.Sun is one, flower is 7, bird is 11. You should be able to get the rest now with the multiplication table.
>>343147889
>people actually had trouble with this
Jesus. It was incredibly easy after just 5 matchups of any random cards + the hint you got.
You can even brute force it if you only know some values.
>>343147889
What the fuck? You can deduce a few values and then work out the rest from there with the RNG puzzle. For example, the one with 3 identical symbols. I hope you realise there's only one number within 0-12 that has a cube root that is not 1.
>>343147687
If you were a woman he'd still always love Maria more than you.
>>343147889
It's not RNG based.
The card game is just there to tell you what's greater than or less than.
I'll give you a hint to begin: focus on the placement of the Sun, Flower and Birdman to start with.
Who "got the coin toss on the first try" here?
>>343148303
Reporting in
>>343148303
I think everyone did, havn't seen someone who hadn't
>>343148034
glowing green eyes
>>343148303
It's rigged.
You always get it right the first time.
Anyone got a clue to the pandoras box password. I may have missed something?!
Why does Carlos have the same story as Joey from Yu-Gi-Oh?
>>343147662
We don't know.
>>343147687
Carlos doesn't have time for a girlfriend. Read the game slower.
>>343148520In the Apocalypse endif that's the box I'm thinking of
Do I have any reason to write down every single X-Pass I hear or am I paranoid?
>>343148520
>Pandoras box
I don't even remember there is any box with that name. From which fragment is it again?
>>343148840
Thanks dude
>>343147889
You only need to check 3 or so, then you already have about 8 of the numbers. Then you can just guess the rest. Stop being retarded.
Fuck you, bitch.
>>343148869
Nope you don't. Things that you'll need to remember, the game mentions that you should remember it.
>>343148916
The damn force quit box
Still trying to figure out how to make a 8-heart. I'm hour six now
>>343148959
Complex motives:^)
>Ds
>Not Gs
Inferior.
>>343148781
>no Snake
still platinum mad
>>343148501
really? Ok, I got it first go and it was blue. Anyone get it first go and have it be red?
>>343149049
It's in C-end 1.
>>343149049
The problem is there are 3.
>>343148959
Why is her hair purple in this game?
>>343149152
<3 love you. Shitty with actual building and visualization
>>343149137
I did.If you have beaten the game you should know why.
>>343149098
Translation: We're not sure if we're getting a sequel or not.
>>343149262
I'd say we aren't but since Uchi lied about other things during the Q&A (where it was 'confirmed' that it would only be a trilogy), who knows.I don't even know why people want a fourth game other than blindly eating up ZTD and being okay with how the game was treated.
>>343148034
There's no proof that anybody other than Eric's dumb ass finds her hot.
Help with Pantry? I got the robots booted up and the screwdriver + wire cutters. Don't know what to look for next
>>343147118
I feel so bad forEric
Miranever loved him
>>343149485
Set the timer of the tube with those blue and red balls to 0 then proceed to disarm the bomb nearby the white robot.
>>343149690not according to the endgame notes
>>343149387
i seem to recall an interview where uchi said he ended the game in a way that wraps up the plot points from VLR (lel) and the ones that arise in ZTD, while still leaving enough room for a potential sequel if the fans wanted it.
...not that I can provide you a source but i read it from some other anon
>>343148869
EYE... KILL... FOOL...
Write them down anyway so we have material to fanwank some theories.
For example, it makes sense how most of the keywords relate to the characters, but I can't really see how Dream related to Carlos and I want to think it's a hint at something very subtle and not just a reference to Carlos being dreamy as fuck.
did anyone else notice howq's status picture becomes a circuit in the history after sigma and diana transport
did they just assume no one actually looked at it or that it was obvious by that point
>>343147118
MIRA WAS THEserial killer
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>343149837
A lot of the X-passes were really spoilery. I think that entire concept was handled poorly.
Apparently I haven't executed Q team yet, but I've done every possible fragment. Anyone know which fragment I have to jump to?
After the Pod Room Puzzle in Q team.Q has a shotgun pointed at him, and you have to choose who killed Mira
You can enter Gab, the dog and there are lines for it.
>>343149837
>but I can't really see how Dream related to Carlos
Maybe it's referring to his sister with daydream syndrome.
>>343149837
> but I can't really see how Dream related to Carlos
It's related to his sister.
>>343149110
There's a point where large breasts get a little ridiculous.
>>343149840
Pretty It has always been a circuit.
>>343149961
Wait till they reveal who her victims really are
>>343150012
Go back and Execute Q team by rigging the votes
>>343150225
CTRL+S
T
R
L
+
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DELETE THIS
>>343149969There only 2 I can think of are Diana's and Sigma's, but I'm pretty sure the catch is that they make you think that they are a reference to them being Phi's parents, when in reality it's hinting that they are Delta's parents. Same thing in the end, but it actually acts as a red herring.
>>343150105
>>343150025Fuck, you are right, I forgot it was also called that. There goes my Carlos is the simulation Sean playing a simulated Decision game theory.:^)
The ending made me realise that Uchikoshi must have at some point hit a wall where there were so many plot twists it was impossible for him to keep the conclusion interesting whilst not breaking continuity. I can't say I blame him, it's a testament to his skill that he got so deep into a story before it happened.
At the same time, despite what was arguably a cliffhanger ending, I really hope this is the end of zero escape. It would make much more sense to move to a spiritual successor at this point, without being shackled to 3 games worth of increasingly convoluted canon. I'd still be interested to see a sequel, even if it's just in the same universe, but I don't hold out much hope for the quality being as high as 999/VLR.
Does Delta have Alexandria's Genesis? He has vibrantly purple eyes, no apparent body hair besides his hair, slowed down aging and extremely long lifespan. It also fits the Egyptian theme with All-Ice.
>>343150570
He used that transporter to deal with a lot of the problems
Ok when I first started, I tried getting the C execution scene by voting for C with Team Q, which led multiple times to the D scene
That outcome is literally impossible, but it took me eight tries to actually get C executed
seriously what the fuck
Who do I blame for this?
>>343150570
I would like for him to try a new IP.
Zero escape is done and beyond saving at this point. Although I really hope it sells well so SC could put more trust and budget into Uchi's next work.
Give me all the spoilers!
>>343150937Q is Zero.
>>343150937
You area fairly decent person irl.
>>343147118
Who killedMira?, because whatever I write getsQ shot in his fucking daft punk faceeverytime.
HOW LONG IS THE GAME?
>>343150781
I had that happen as well, were you just jumping to the outcome after the vote?
I was able to get the ends I needed by jumping to the vote then choosing the one correct ones from there
>>343150876
The Chinese.
>>343150638
Very possible this was in mind when designing him but, there is so little information given on him it's hard to say
>>343151150
20 minutes
>>343151150
20 hours more or less to 100% it
>>343150937Phi and Sigma fucked, Diana is their kid.
>>343151148
Let it time out.
>>343151150
25 hours.
>>343150781
You have to remember what you picked the last time for all the team.
For example, if you picked D for C-team, C for Q-team and Q for C-team previously, you just need replay the D-team and pick C to execute them. Note also by doing this, you have overwritten the D-team 'current' vote so you have to adjust accordingly to other team's vote if you want to execute different team.
Hope that made sense.
>>343150876
This doomed timeline.
>>343151148You don't know who killed mira
>>343151150
9 hours 9 minutes 9 seconds
>>343150937the snail did it
So what the fuck was the point of VLR? Akane and Sigma didn't accomplish shit, everything built up in that game was pointless, the happy ending in this game is caused entirelyby Zero, not anything Akane and Sigma set up in VLR.
>>343150937
The kid with big head is not Q.
Real Q is Zero.
Q-team actually consists of 4 members, Q, the kid with a big head, Eric and Mira.
They are all in the same ward.
Q-team and D-teams watch is slowed down to 2 hours and 4 hours respectively.
Sigma and Diana fug and gave birth to Phi and Delta (Zero in this game).
>>343151340
Perhaps not show your name?
>>343151340
>Sean
>>343151448
There wasn't one.Thanks for buying the game, sucker!
>>343151191
that must have been it, can't recall
>>343150937
Carlos isa handsome and wonderful gentleman
Kyle isoff doing fuckall somewhere completely unrelated to the game
Sigmahas questionable taste in headwear
>>343147806
>>343148064
i was sure you were going to have to pull some kaiji shit and cheat the dice somehow so i put this off till later, assuming they'd show me some way to cheat. the actual solution is a bit disappointing, but makes sense thematically i guess
>>343148656
I gotta pay for my sista serenity!
>>343151510
Oh dear.
When can I pirate this is my question
>>343151148Idontknow
>>343151624
Sigmahas a bucket!
I'm actually glad ZTD didn't make an active attempt to explain everything in VLR. It'd be a clusterfuck otherwise
>>343151510
Oh yes, I can feel this is real. I have came.
>>343151715
right now
>>343151715
considering most of the people in these threads have beaten the game already with a pirated 3DS version, about 2 or 3 days ago.
>>343148959
Well it's sort of true. She has no idea what went on with Team D.
I'm pirating the PC version tomorrow, fuck you Amazon and Aksys for not shipping my copy
A fucking snail, really!
>>343151878
>>343151885
I meant on PC
I can't find a copy anywhere
>>343151768
Stage 3: Bargaining :^)
WAIT, SOGAB IS JUST A RED HERRING ALL THIS TIME?
10/10 UCHI.
>>343151981
The snail isKyle
>>343151908
She did escape with Diana. Besides, she went to meeth with Brother so even he could have told her.
>>343152301Every time either Eric or Mira spoke to Q (Delta), the camera would cut to Gab to deceive the player. I thought it was really clever.
>>343148959Is it possible that Delta minds hacked her memories away at that free the soul event he invited her too
>>343151913
Where are you pirating it from?
>>343152475We don't even know if she went to that or not.
>>343152403
OH SHIT GUESS I SHOULD REPLAY THE ALL THE Q TEAM FRAGMENT TO SEE THOSE SUBTLE HINTS.
>>343152529
>>343151913
Same, please tell me where anon
Can't find it uploaded ANYWHERE
Why was Gab chained up when you press the Decontamination Room button with Q team?
And maybe with the other teams, I dunno. I haven't done theirs yet
I just got to the story ofLuna's creationand I feel like crying.
>>343152590
PC version isn't even out yet. Of course it isn't available now, newfriends.
>>343152539
Shes wearing the free the soul robe in the End or Beginning ending that takes place on the day Delta mentioned
So did Carlos die in the VLR timeline?He seemed like he'd stay pretty close to Junpei and Akane after waiting 10 months to make a big damn hero moment instead of actually saving the day. He also could have filled in the holes in Junpei's memory. Why wasn't he in VLR
HELP! Who do Ishoot? I got Eric, Mira, Nobody? Who is the last one?
>>343152858
Because Akane always has to fucking do the same thing her future visions show or it fucks it all up
Carlos was probably helping somewhere far in the background of VLR
>>343152887Zero's real identity.
>>343152887
Keep playing
you'll find out later
>>343152887If you still can't figure it out, just let it be for now. You will know it sooner or later.
>>343152858Carlos could have died when the reactors went off. Maybe Akane thought that since he was a pretty strong esper he could cancel out Sigma and Phi which is why she didn't kidnap him
>>343152887
Q's true name.
No Clover, no BUY!
>>343152529
>>343152590
>they don't have GazelleGames or Blackcats accounts
>>343152858
he probably died fighting one of the many fires that our to come
>>343152887
>>343153040
>>343153050
>>343153082
>>343153095
Okay thanks for not spoiling. I thought there was something I missed. I even triedSean
>>343152858
>So did Carlos die in the VLR timeline? He also could have filled in the holes in Junpei's memory. Why wasn't he in VLRI'm guessing he gets drugged with the watch by Akane off screen, otherwise, yeah, it'd be impossible to explain why Tenmyouji doesn't know shit about the events of ZTD.
Quark = Carlos grandson best theory.
>>343152829
All that implies is that she took the robe but it doesn't confirm that she actually went to the meeting itself.
>>343150937Zero is Phi
>>343153226
So she just wear the fucking outfit because its comfy?
3ds, vita or PC?
>>343153465
Hey those baggy robes look like the best replacement when nuclear reactors are going crazy around you and you've lost your nightgown.
>>343153226
>but it doesn't confirm that she actually went to the meeting itself.
The fact that the explanation for the robe didn't exist until this game makes that a very counterproductive and unlikely conclusion.
>>343153465
Yeah sure, why not? Probably like a dress to her. Next you'll be telling me Snake went to the meeting too.
SIX BILLION CARLOS
>>343152683
Wait until you get D-team ending 2.
>>343153620
>I can't wait to play
3DS
>I am a graphic whore
PC
>B-But I want both
Kill yourself.
>>343148096
i solved this without using the matchup game at all. if you know that 3 moons = moon^3 and the values are from 0-12 then the only possible value a moon could have is 2 since 3^3 is over 12. the rest is pretty easy to piece together after that. a lot of them also hint at their value through the picture.
>>343153656
How she may have obtained the robe is the only explanation we were given. There is no confirmation that she attended the meeting.
>>343153662
the fuck?
>>343151769
I can confirm that it is allreal.
>>343153662
>got so utterly consumed by saving his buds that he neglected the bigger picture
What a dumb hunk. Also, this was the VLR timeline so if he had stopped the experiment, VLR would not have existed.
>>343153662
C-team was truly the best.
>Diana will try to touch Sigma's penis
>>343154132
C-Team was the best
D-Team had the biggest revelations
Q-Team sucked ass.
>>343152278
Why do you keep shitposting with that same fucking face every thread.
>>343154190
I love Sigma's dopey wife
>>343154190
WasPhi's eyebrows the same colour as Diana's ever since VLR? Can't remember had that detail before as a giveaway of sortz
I was actually satisfied with the ending and how smug Zero was about outplaying Akane.
>>343154048
NOTHING WOULD HAVE EXISTED
>>343154190SLEEP WITH ME SIGMA
>>343154310
Oh. I usually just put that face there to convey that i'm not serious
or am I...? :^)
Help with the ambidex mirror laser puzzle? Is there a hint for this or is it about brute forcing? Is there any logic to it?
>>343154310
You could sayhe has complex motives:^)
>>343154378
It was white.
>>343154378It was just a thin black line. Same for Luna, I think.
>>343154378
Nah it was only during ZTD but it should have been in VLR
>>343154394
Were you satisfied with thetext files as epilogue?Also, did you like howwe never got a chance to see what happened to D-Team after the shit they've been through?
>>343141814
What happens if you putKyle?
>>343154478
Yellow laser has to pass through the mirror on the bottom, Blue laser has to pass through the mirror on top. Work on the yellow laser before everything else
>>343154478
>Is there any logic to it?
Light reflection.
>>343154458
Why does everyone get pussy aside from Carlos?
>>343154582
Nothing sinceKyle doesn't existinZero Kyle Dilemma
>>343154582
Error.
>>343154630
What are you talking about? Carlos got the best pussy.
>>343154602
This guy speaks truth, also if I remember correctly, the green laser doesn't hit any mirror.
>>343154582
Error. Same for BW andSean
>>343154630
Because he is the purest.Crazy-ass Akane goes with crazy-ass Jumpy. Dopey drunk Diana has sex with Siggy. Mira is a fucking psycho. Maybe he could've gone with Phi, but she's too focused on muh alien tech and muh time travel to bother
Why do people keep bitching about Kyle? Uchikoshi has confirmed multiple times that ? in the ending of VLR is you, the Blick Winkel of the game universe. ? asked whether his and Kyle's consciousnesses switched bodies and Akane said yes. Why the fuck do you guys keep complaining that he isn't in ZTD when he was in your body this whole time?
>>343154190
>yfw it was revealed that Diana (spoilers about her origins)was so beta she came to the experiment so she could avoid being pressured into sex by her ex-husband
When did Akane move in with Sigma in the VLR timeline? Sigma reveals that he lived alone for years building robots and only briefly having visitors, but in Luna and Kyle's backstories in VLR, they both mention that Akane was living on the base with Sigma. Kyle pretty much calls Akane his mother
>>343154630
What are you talking about? He brought one to his prom.
>>343154985
I just wanted a cutscene of her ex running into swole ass Sigma and backing off
>Punished Sigma
>Phi injected with Radical 6
>Blue Bird Lamentation
NO!
I DIDN'T WANT TO FIND OUT ABOUT HISTORY LIKE THIS! I AM ON THE VERGE OF TEARS
>>343154893
Not that I ever bitched about Kyle not showing up in ZTD because I never cared about him in the first place, but what was the point of it if Sigma talks about how heregrets not being able to make Kyle during one of the death sequences?
>>343154985Diana was so fucking nice that she regularly let her husband berate, rape, and beat the shit out of her in front of all her friends and never did anything about it
>>343155101
>tries to run away
>Sigma whips out his eighteen-inch behemoth of a penis like a lasso and drags him back to whoop his ass
>>343155020
No idea, but in ZTD, Sigma says thathe took 25 years to build Luna. Assuming that Akane came into the base before Luna was built, there was still years of quality alone-time
>>343155020
Akane became K's mother figure when he turned 18.
>>343154579
The files were fine, they probably ran out of budget, though it's weird that there weren't any for D team.
Fuck, can't you let other people enjoy the game without complaining yourself?
>>343155253
Shouldn't it be longer now that Phi has grown a up size
>>343155253
>>Sigma whips out his eighteen-inch behemoth of a penis like a lasso and drags him back to fuck his ass
Fixed.
>>343155098
Not bad.
>>343154985
Is it pretty much confirmed Diana can't resist cock?
>>343155298
Just busting your balls anon.
I enjoyed the game throughout the first 75-85% of it, but turns out Uchi can't write an ending for shit. Not really surprised though, 'cause nobody can't properly write an ending nowadays except Yoko Taro.
started with Q team, this shit is boring
>>343155020
I think Akane only made rare appearances and was really only there more frequently toward the later years.
>>343155298
>Fuck, can't you let other people enjoy the game without complaining yourself?
Not him but hownew.ruAlso a bit hypocritical to share your opinion then get mad when someone else shares their opposing opinion, don'tcha think?
>>343155324
Nah
>VLR
Phi - C cup
Sigma - 9in
>ZTD
Phi - D cup
Sigma - 18in
>>343155351
Sigma may as well just whip his dick out like a fucking spear and ram it straight in from a distance.
>>343155430
Why would you start with the worst team?
>>343154579
I found it weird thatSeanentered the police station with his helmet.and also that Mira was nice as fuck
>>343155485
So he saves the better teams for later, duh.
>>>/vg/
this is literally a topicless general thread
mods please do your jobs
>11 hours until PC release
>already got spoiled 9 times over
>>343148781
Q56 was answered at the very leastSigma's reproductive genes had a spontaneous evolution at the moment Delta/Phi were conceived, resulting in their Shifter/Mind Hack powers, and Delta also gained an extraordinary longevity from it. It's not unreasonable to say a 20 year old man with mind reading in the 1920's would be able to form a cult.
This game needs another epilogue, there's still a lot of unanswered stuff.
>>343155485
save the best for last
>>343155458
So how does this work? Every time Phi's cup size gets larger, Sigma's cock grows by 9 inches, or does it grow twice in length?
>>343155430
>tfw started with chainsaw
>>343154893
>he was in your body this whole time
Not that it matters much, but ifthe player can inhabit Kyle's body it would have been a possibility that you had were inside someone else in 2028. It's not like BW has a body of his own in the game world.
>Why do people keep bitching about Kyle?
Essential for this mission, Sigma wouldn't leave his "son" behind, yada yada
>>343155571Was his adoptive father Lord Gordain?
>>343155430
>>343155485
>not having fun playing as a shota dealing with crazies
>>343155621BW switched with Kyle so Kyle could mindhack BW's body
>>343155571
But we never found out when FtS was created, nor the details about Left, nor when human cloning was invented, nor when the Left clones were created.
So no, Q56 wasn't answered in any way.I don't even know why you replied.
>>343155414
But I thought the ending was satisfying, it gave the series purpose and closure but it was open enough to be able to have a sequel.
It also solved most of the series plot lines, the only big question is what happened with Kyle but it's completely irrelevant and at this point I think VLR's epilogue was probably not intended to be canon.
Uchi has never been able to write mind blowing endings, just see Remember 11, ZTD is much better and does the job fine, some people (like you) just had insane expectations about the game.
>>343150549
There's alsoTWIN for Phi
>>343155569
That's what you get for waiting for graphics.
Who were Mira's victims again?Eric's mum, and like 15 other people (besides the ZTD murders)
>>343155730
In the ZE timeline VLR isn't canon so nothing in it even matters.
>>343155458
>Also a bit hypocritical to share your opinion then get mad when someone else shares their opposing opinion, don'tcha think?
I'm not getting mad at him sharing his opinion, I got mad at him being cheeky by making an ironic response to mine.
>>343155574
Let's wait for Uchi's Q&A as he tries to explain everything through that :^)
As an aside, in spite of the wonky shit at the end, part of me hopes that this is the last Zero Escape game. Not because Uchi can't write another one, but that he's very close to digging a hole he won't be able to get out off. I don't want him to turn into the next Hideo Kojima.
>>343155261
>>343155164
Diana isn'tpure for Sigma?I think I need my money back.
>>343155794
Kyle shifted to a time before the split, so his consciousness should've been around in whatever body he arrived.
>>343155621
You're not an esper, faggot. Your mind jumped into Kyle's body because he iniated the transfer.
>>343155918
But if BW switched with Kyle, wouldn't that mean Kyle is in BW's body?
>>343155954
>wouldn't that mean Kyle is in BW's body?
Yes, Akane says that this is the case.
>>343155852
>without complaining yourself?
>an ironic response to mine
Okay, anon. I see it was folly to even attempt this discussion.
>>343155954
Blick Winkel doesn't technically have a body.
>>343155726
>nor the details about Left
He was the son of the people who took delta in, his brother.
>when FtS was created, nor when human cloning was invented, nor when the Left clones were created.
irrelevant, why do we need to know the exact date?
50% my asstried shooting 4 times and each time Sigma lived
What otherwise happens?
>>343155954
I don't think BW has a body, as it's supposed to be us, the player, a 4th dimensional entity.
That's why Akane tells us we're not bound and we can travel back in time to help Sigma and Phi.
And we did, we kept everyone's memories between timelines acting as the Morphogenetic field.
Kyle was probably Gab or something, that's how it knew to stay 2 hours in a fucking shaft waiting for the next team to appear.
>>343155932
Do you even understand what the concept of BW/the player is in this context?
>>343156062
it was folly because you were not attempting to have a discussion, you were berating me for getting mad at a reply.
>>343155871
No she most certainly is not.
>>343156062
>Blick Winkel doesn't technically have a body.
According to who? To the game characters, BW is like a fourth dimensional being like the player. You don't have body in the game world, but you still have a body in the real world.
>>343156172I do not want a whore on my manwhore.I would like my money back.
>>343156103
He.. dies?
Wow. What else did you expect man?
>>343156106
>And we did, we kept everyone's memories between timelines acting as the Morphogenetic field.No, you play as delta mind hacking and reading memories. why do you think people kept choosing the wrong option and claiming they didn't know why. Also Q shoots the screen when told to shoot delta.
>>343156103
You just need to get lucky. I had trouble with the opposite outcome.Once he dies Diana kills herself and you get a game over
>Akane's hips
>Phi's legs and ass
>Diana's sweater puppies
>>343156153
BW isn't just some character inside the game. It is literally you, the person who played 999 and VLR.
>>343156293
You forgot Mira's feet.
>>343155589
>Taking this seriously
It's clearly meant to be a joke.
Phi's claims about her chests are also her way of complex having a modest size.
>>343156254
Delta is dead in quite a few timelines.
>Roll Dice
>Decision
Cool story Zero.
>>343155562
Get fucked.
From the undertale threads I know a general can be posted in /v/ up to 2 week after release
>>343156370Delta can mindhack people to throw the dice at the exact angle to get the results he wants
>>343156102
>He was the son of the people who took delta in, his brother
If you bothered to have read the image--which you clearly did not--you would have seen that was not the details alluded to.
>irrelevant, why do we need to know the exact date?
Because more information was promised in the "third game" and said information was not present.Polite sage for responding. I'll cease now as night time /v/ seems full of people who will defend Uchi's lies until entropy.
>>343156212
Blick Winkel is a fourth-dimensional entity, a literal perspective. He can inhabit the bodies of others but he does not possess a body himself. Read ever17.
>>343156386
Don't respond to obvious newfag shitposting.
>>343156369
he can read memories from other timelines as well, he doesn't need to experience them in real time.
>>343156360
>tfw I deduce right away on who killed D-team in one of the timeline from the sound of the culprit's footstep
>>343156212
>You don't have body in the game world, but you still have a body in the real world.
Yes, but that's why literally body switching is retarded. Akane is pretty vague when talking about the whole thing, so I don't think they wanted to imply that.
>>343156435
Wait, he can? How?
>>343156513
The quantum computer.
>>343156513
Same way as Akane if I had to guess
>>343156513
he reads the memories of people who have shifted in.
>>343156435
Yes, what I mean is that in quite a few timelines people retain their memories and that's because they can access the morphogenetic field, which is what the player acts as.
Remember Akane saying they downloaded their memories from the morphogenetic field, isn't she just talking about the different timelines stored on the savefile?
sleep with me, hurry up!
>>343156590Wait every time someone shifts, Delta can read their memories?
>>343156424
Ever17 isn't part of the ZE canon.
>>343156424
You've been here all day complaining about the game, just stop posting already.
>>343156638
Zero Escape 4infinity
>>343156296
Yeah but you have no body in the game's world. You're just observing through your screen and influencing decisions. The fun part of BW was that the characters in game know about you and your abilities. This was teased in the epilogue of VLR but dropped in ZTD
>>343156625
yes, that's how he knows about alternate histories in the first place, from people who come over.
>>343156638
You're right. It isn't. But it is where the character 'Blick Winkel' originated from and contains what we know about the character.
What the shit do I do in the Bio lab? I opened the pig pillow and got the stuff, but the microscope won't let me see shit. All I have is some green liquid, pink liquid, and the plate I microwaved, which doesn't seem to lead to anything yet. (The buttons on that door have red and yellow, but no orange.) Why is there a huge shelf I can zoom in on that doesn't let me interact with anything?
>>343156638
It is for him.
He has been complaining for days about how Uchi promised Blick Winkel a la Ever17 and failed to meet his expectations. And how he lied in his Q&A.
You just know it's the same guy because of how he posts, just ignore him.
>>343156739
You can't assume that it is a 'character' in VLR.
>>343156624You actually thought I was gonna lick it?
>>343156624
>breaking down after 6 weeks
I get that this isn't a lot to do but jesus christ.
>PC in 11 hours
I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight am I?
>>343156638
Sure but reading Ever17 helps to understand why some people were so hyped about ?. The idea is interesting enough.
>>343156543
How? I mean, we knowthe Quantum Computer can access different timelines but how does he look at the memories in these timelines? Does he interface with the computer?
>>343156545
Akane does it through shifting across different histories and retaining memories of each one, but this dudecannot
>>343156590
This sounds the most plausible. The problem is, people don't retain memories of the timelines they are in usually. Also,how does he know the exact time when people shift in? Is his brain on perma-scan mode for new memories? How does his brain sort out relevant information?
>>343156796
Most people have agreed already that it was simply a shitty teaser for the third game and [?] was just there so Akane could tell us "please buy ZE3".
Stop trying to reason with him.
>ost is being taken down on youtube
Damn.
>>343156780
That huge shelf contains a paper, it's on top of a box.
>>343156836
It's interesting but those guys simply misinterpreted it.
>>343156787
>It is for him
No it isn't. Don't put words in my mouth.
Feel free to ignore me, though, since I don't approve of Uchi's lying behavior.
>>343156796
What term would you prefer I use? Are you merely being pedantic now, for lack of any other response?
I understand that Blick Winkel--in VLR--is the player since it was confirmed in that one tweet but all I was saying is that ever17 contains all the other information we know about him, including his lack of body due to being a higher-dimensional entity.
>>343156809It is six weeks with no sun, the same horrible food every day, no internet, and the smuggest dog in the entire world taunting you
>>343156780
There's a centrifuging thing with instructions somewhere that can separate liquids or combine them. There's a note lying somewhere that asks for a certain combination of liquids to be put into a machine. Also, when you separate all the liquids (so now you have 4), use the microscope. That gives you the hint for the locker with the colors.
>>343156907
well he is running the game and reading the minds of only the8humans in the game. I'm sure he would notice if someone suddenly had a bunch of different memories.
>>343155518It never said sean didnt have his head did it.
And that Mira thing was fucking stupid. A sociopath/serial killer suddenly repents as is good? Get fucked
Not from a story-telling perspective but from an in universe perspective, is the Blue Coin ending a Good Ending?
If the decision game doesn't happen does anything bad happen? I am not done the game yet but I have seenMira steal the Radical-6
>>343157035
I know right, I would've gone crazy on probably the third or fourth week and just fucked Diana nonstop, with or without her consent.
>>343157026
Your problem is that you're assuming VLR's take on BW is the same as Ever17's.
You misinterpreted BW's purpose in VLR's epilogue and you applied Ever17's rules to it (even though there was no indication it was the same kind of entity), making you expect something that was never going to happen.
>>343157151well presumably delta would find some other way to infect the planet with radical 6.
>>343157167
If I was on team C, do you think Carlos would allow me to fuck Akane in the ass without her permission?
>>343157026
>including his lack of body due to being a higher-dimensional entity.
He (you) lacks body in the game world of Ever17. You still have your body here in the physical world. What BW can or cannot do depends on the mechanics of the game they are playing (decided by Uchikoshi). Perhaps in Ever17 BW is able to jump into the characters bodies because that is literally how the game is played. ZE games are more of a third-person experience and the things the player can/can't do are different.
>>343157013
Of course I tapped the box with that sheet, it just wasn't the pixel the game wanted.
>>343157036
Finally got the damn sheet. Thanks anons.
>>343157151No it's the worst ending because the terrorist destroys humanity.
>>343155430
What? I liked playing Q team's the most and was most hyped for getting back to them. Though by the end of it the end of the other teams always ended up being fucking insane.
>>343157245
>even though there was no indication it was the same kind of entity
I misinterpreted nothing. It will never become true no matter how many times you repeat it.
Will you continue to tell me I misinterpreted this or will you come up with a different incorrect reason to adamantly claim I am wrong?
>>343157136
Yeah, it explains his knowledge of all the timelines that happen as a result of the game. But it doesn't explain how he's able to track all the timelines and decisions that happened before or after, how he's able to pick up why the runner changed her path for example.
I love how you can input Gab as an answer whenever you're asked for a killer and the game takes you seriously.Eric even has unique dialogue laughing at your retarded answer
>>343157276
Of course, but only if you let him join in.also have fun with that chainsaw
>>343147118
D team is the best
Best team dynamic, best cuties, best 28 inches
>>343157403
>Uchikoshi would never lie to us
>>343156923
Personally I don't mind people being disappointed with how "Another Time" played. Let them vent their frustration. But don't argue thatBW is in ZTD because you are playing it, Kyle is in your bodybecause makes the whole game even more disappointing.
>>343157151
It's the worst ending possible.
The whole purpose of that coin toss is generating a quantum superposition where the game never happened yet also happened,possible thanks to the presence of shifters. If you never play the game then there is no split where shifters can come from, and so they can't save the world and delta will have to simply release Radical 6
>>343157508
Did you misquote, anon?
>>343157462
Only if he takes her mouth, I already claimed her ass and balls might touch if he goes vagina.
>>343157423
He doesn't really track does he? his behaviour is always based on the actions of that particular timeline and the memories he see's. In the final timeline all the participants know everything so as a result so does he. He acts smug and taunting in timelines he is dead but he is dead for real there, he can't shift.
>All that stupid shit Akane starts talking about after the Dice roll
Also
After the biolab puzzle
spoilers, faggotHow does Q inject himself with Radical 6 if he's a robot?
>>343157553delta truly is the real hero of zero escape.
>>343157462
>>343157593
>>343157276
I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU
>>343155430
I did the same and ended up disliking the game until I finished all of their fragments and moved on to D Team.
Don't play it like me, mix it up every once in a while, switch the team you play as and you'll start to enjoy the game more
>>343157403
How does that tweet disprove anything I said in my post? Everyone agrees that [?] Is Blick Winkel, the player.
What you misinterpreted was BW's role in ZE, you expected it to work like Ever17, even though VLR's epilogue didn't give any indication that it followed the same rules, just because it also happened to be the player entity.
>>343157534
I would never argue that, I find that theory silly.
I think that Uchi simply forgot about Kyle.
Where did Junpei's cool ass jacket from the concept art go?
>>343157674But isn't he supposed to be the bad guy?
What the fuck is it? I was gonna go back and replay other fragments to see if I could find out, but I'm stuck on this part.
>>343157853
From a certain standpoint he is.
He did release Radical 6 in another history.
>>343157508
Akane clearly mentioned that Kyle and BW would have important role in helping Sigma and Phi at DCOM.
Uchi literally lied to us.
>>343157836
Sigma literally calls out about him when he dies in one of the endings.
>>343157245
>>343157761
>VLR's take on BW
Well, there was no real take, as the whole thing played out in around 20 minutes with Akane teasing something, which could have been expanded upon in ZTD but they didn't, so [?] is not relevant at all.
>>343157890
Get D-end 2.
>>343157890
Check a bit to the left in the global chart, should be an exclamation mark there.
>>343157853
well he does still want to rule over humanity as brother. Just because he doesn't want humanity wiped out doesn't make him not the leader of free the soul.
It's funny how ZTD would be way better if the final scene in VLR had just not happened.
>>343157890
I don't know either.
Apparently the password is told in a cutscene somewhere. I'll find it eventually. You should too.
>>343157534
But most the people who are okay with thenonexistence of Kylesupport that theory.
>>343157916
Don't even bother. "Lie" is yet another term given its own personalized definition now.
>>343157582
>>343157916
I think you guys can't understand Irony.
And BW did have an important role, he's us, playing the game (plus according to a recent tweet it's also the morphogenetic field).
Kyle was dropped from concept, like many things do between sequels.
>>343157963
Yes, but that's not (yet) the Kyle that traveled back in time.
>>343158026
So he released Radical 6 in the VLR timeline because he couldn't get them to stop the terrorist? But in the good end of this they're set up to stop the terrorist and everything is good now, aside from the whole cult thing?
>>343157963
I meant that he forgot about Kyle's role, not his character.
>>343158076But we're playing as Delta
>>343157987
Got it, thanks anon!
>>343158076
How was that ironic in the least? I'll be the first one to say that Uchi is a liar. Refer to the Q&A questions earlier in the thread.
>>343157916
No, she never said that. You better find direct quotes from her before trying to argue back.
>>343157607
The problem with that line of reasoning is, do the participants know everything? We don't know that for certain. We, the players, know enough to piece the hints together, but do the participants know? If they don't, then Delta must be able to read memories from wherever the fuck he is.For example, is anyone able to figure out that Eric's mum is the runner who took a detour because of the snail? We, the players, are able to but what about the participants? If the participants do not know, Delta must have read it from the runner herself, which indicates an ability to track memories across space and possibly time.
Unless Delta is breaking the 4th wall and reading US.
Then that brings up another point. Who is the US in this game??
Fuck, this is making my head hurt.
>>343158143
What was Kyle's role really? We just had psycho bitch Akane spout a bunch of nonsense for 10 minutes.
>>343158201Is BW mindhacking Delta?
>>343158131
because of the events of ZTD following VLR they are ready to find and stop the terrorist. if they aren't able to them I'd imagine delta would find out about it from people shifting away from human extinction and try some other plan.
>>343157971
Exactly, BW's role was just appearing in VLR's epilogue for Akane to tell us to play ZE3. The one that was teased to be in ZE3 was Kyle, not [?].
Anyone expecting anything else were simply overthinking the issue, even more if they tried to apply Ever17 rules to it.
>>343158062
>But most the people who are okay with thenonexistence of Kylesupport that theory.
Really? I don't think it adds anything to any of the games and makes Sigma look like an asshole.
So when can we expect another Q&A with Uchi?
How long did it take for 999 and VLR Q&A to be posted on their official website?
>>343158218
He was being ironic by saying that Uchi could never lie to us because he clearly did.
This is not hard to understand, are you autistic perchance? Autists have problems understanding irony.
What do the borders around certain fragments mean?
Just beat the game on the 3DS. I liked the ending. I won't say it was good, but I think it fit narratively and it was actually a bit complex:^)since there's no real winners and losersExcept for the cast that got transported to the exploding DCom against their will, they got fucked
How much better does the game look on Vita? Because fucking hell it looked terrible at some points on the 3DS
![[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.18_[2016.04.02_11.21.07].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9YW79lg.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 06 [720p].mkv snapshot 16.18 [2016.04.02 11.21.07]")
>>343147118
I like how VLR was supposed totrain you for the ZTD missionand the ZTD mission istraining you to save the world.This shit is all filler
>>343158273
I don't think Kyle was needed for this game, that's probably why he was cut.
Though I don't think Eric was needed either, aside from being a good source of tension.
>>343158030
I agree. I don't even know why it was included. There were other problems with ZTD but this is the cherry on top.
>>343158232
Not him but
>AKANE: I doubt you know how much the doctor loves Kyle. He raised him on his own. Kyle is irreplaceable. Do you really think he would go back to the past and leave Kyle behind here? I know what I told the others - that Kyle was Doctor Klim's spare - but that was not his only purpose. Kyle's consciousness is integral to what we are trying to accomplish. This new mission begins on Christmas, and ends on New Year's Eve, 2028. Its purpose will be to infiltrate the test facility and prevent the spread of the virus. For this to happen, Kyle is absolutely necessary.
>Kyle's consciousness is integral to what we are trying to accomplish.
>For this to happen, Kyle is absolutely necessary.
>>343158273
We don't really know since it didn't happen.
>>343158386
Yeah. Beats me as to why but they'll swear up and down that Kyle actually is present but he's in our body because Blick shenanigans or some other stupid shit.
How the fuck do I do any of the rec room
It seems like a ton of shit like, writing down this, then decoding this and that
I'm bored in this room. I already burned the box and put the fire out. Now what.
>>343158537
Completion
>>343158549
>Vita
Looked much better.
>>343158646
If you haven't been to the transporter room yet you're in for a fun ride
>>343158616
In case that you haven't noticed, Akane is a compulsive liar. She couldn't tell you the true motivation behind having Kyle switch bodies because it could have changed the future and made you not buy the sequel.
>>343158667
Ah, okay.
Is completion of every single branch necessary to get the true end?
>>343158537
Something might change if you go back to the initial vote, pick something different and then re-enter that fragment.
I've justwatched that long as fuck cutscene about Diana and Sigma making two twins, then got the Delta ending for the 3-way showdown for Q team,after that no more scenarios unlocked, any tips on what to do in the most spoiler free way? I'm guessing there is something, like a password, I should be able to use at this point, but at theDoor of truth it only asks me for numbers, while I think it implies the password is somewhat Delta and Phi I think,and I'm positive I have not met anything that could work for the red blocks, so I don't really know where to go now. Did I meet one of these passwords already or did I miss something that would have unlocked them for me?
Oh my god those eyes holes on his helmet are speakers
So thetwo items I need to place into the Force Quit box are brooch and what? I accidentally got spoiled on both of them but I forget the other
>>343158030
It's not even relevant, the only change would be that Kyle wouldn't be a plothole.
It doesn't really upset me so I thoroughly enjoyed the ending (aside from the lack of an epilogue for D team).
The only people really mad are the ones that expected BW shenanigans and people who take the Zero Kyle Dilemma way too seriously.
And then there are those who wanted every Q&A solved, they are crazy if they thought everything from the Q&A would be explained.
>>343158752
What a surprising post!
>>343158868"Music box" or "Blue bird" will both work. Be sure to include the spaces.
>>343158823
You're correct. When examining that same door as Eric and Q, didn't they point out something small written on the door? Something that is expressed as numbers?
If you don't have the path to examine the door as Eric and Q, you've got to have Carlos tell you to Check the Family Portrait.
>>343156424
BW is NOT in ZE for the last fucking time.
It's clearly stated that ? has a body that he switched with kyle in vlr.
Uchi is a fucking hsck and couldnt figure oht how to write it in, so he just resorted to reusing his same perspective gimmick.
>>343158616
>Yeah. Beats me as to why but they'll swear up and down that Kyle actually is present but he's in our body because Blick shenanigans or some other stupid shit.
You should stop assuming everyone who disagrees with you subscribes to this theory.
I simply did not give a fuck about what happened to Kyle.
>>343158823You've seen everything you need to do Diana's force quit box password but that won't unlock anything new for you.
I'm assuming you've voted and killed all three teams already. Has C team been to the reactor room yet? Have cleared Mira's killer yet?
Why was Gab chained up?
I'll take crazy headcanons if that's all there is because this is the only thing that's eating at me.
>>343159115
Zero doesn't like dogs.
>>343159115To keep Sean from leaving. It'd be pretty bad for Zero if his robot boy wandered out into the real world.
>>343159184
Heliterally chained himself to that dog
>>343159231But he did leave in some endings, like in the one where Mira killed Eric as a result of the standoff.
How much is it suppose to cost on steam?
One questionWhy Phi did not shift in the timeline where Diana refused to shoot Sigma?
>>343159302In that ending Zero leaves with them, plus Mira knows who he is already.
>>343159331
Why the fuck would you ask this here? Go check Steam.
>>343158987
>>343159109
Nevermind fixed it
That Diana endingWhere Zero's calling her out on his mind tricking ability used on her and how she's trying to get out of being punished for it.The dude's fucked up.
>>343150925
He would still use the same 4 gimmicks that he always uses. I admit they're pretty good gimmicks but Uchi is a one trick pony. Hell he even wrote an anime that used those exact same fucking themes.
>>343159449
There is no one else doing it so I'd rather have him rehash his gimmicks.
COMPLEXMOTIVATIONS:^)
>>343159374Mind hacked
>>343159449
Hey, multiverse fuckery is his...punchline
>Q team Mexican Standoff
>Who will you killme
You can not commit suicideQYou must enter Q's name
Maybe it makes sense at the end but right now that's just weird.
>>343159563DeltaSean
>>343159498
Be careful what you wish for. Danganronpa v3 is taking a leaf out of Zero Escape's book by introducing bracelets infused with the power of asspull.
>>343159563Robotscan't commit suicide.
>>343159563
That's what you call foreshadowing my friend.
>>343159563
It makes sense,it's related to the big twisttry saying that sean killed mira
>>343159431Why do you think he used his mindhack for that? It would make more sense that he called her out exactly because she was acting on her free will.
>>343159051
There was an additional tweet that confirmed he was the player but I can't find it. It was posted in a thread either yesterday or the day before. I looked on twitter itself but that was no luck.
>>343159635
You mustlower me into the steel
>>343159615
Danganronpa is shit though.
Any game in the ZE or Infinity series shits on DR.
>>343159635
OH SHIT IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
>>343159683
for you
>>343159814
Thanks, anon.Fuck me. I actually knew what the username of the person who asked was referring to so I should have remembered the username and could have possibly searched it that way but I had forgotten.
>>343159814
>20 NOV 2012
Yeah no. What even is this shoehorned Blick Winkle shit. Where was he in VLR?
So what? Is shootingDeltajust a :^) ending? Because if you don't do it, you won't miss anything
>>343159976
Lurk the thread.
>>343160007The game implies that Delta is shot, since the player is Delta, and the screen fades out.
>>343154378
>yfwPhi's eyebrows in Steam version of VLR will be red
>>343160007>implying that Carlos can do a morally wrong thing
Akane and Jumpe are so fuckin boring. What can be worse than average edgy school boy and average anime childhood friend? Poor Carlos.
>>343159976
"Another Time" epilogue [?] posing as Kyle.
>>343160007
Yeah basically. That ending is actually pointless
>>343160038
I have been. But i dont remember where he was in VLR. Isnt he just an imaginary placeholder for the player from a different universe? Why does he need to exist besides Uchi's marketting?
>>343160148
Lurk harder, specifically for an image that explains this.
Holy shit, I just got my second actual, credits roll, ending. So excited.
>>343158780
Nearly every single branch, yes
>>343159274Sean says they're forgetting someone
He's talking about Q
>>343155485
C team is worst
>muh Jumpei
>muh Akane
do i have to play 999 to understand the series
i dont have a flash cart and dont want to bother emulating it before i play vlr on my 3ds
>>343160074
I'm referring to the Q team mexican standoff not the true end
>>343160339
Yes
>>343160339
this was worded poorly, what I'd rather ask is there some kind of synopsis i can read or something to get a feel for what happened in 999 enough to play vlr and ztd? obv i'd have to know the events in 999 to understand vlr and ztd
>>343160339
You'll miss a bunch of stuff, and also 999 is tied with VLR for best game in the series. So yes, you should play 999
>>343160407
You will miss a lot. What the fuckin wrong with 999? Not enough graphics?
I love how we all thought VLR was bad and that ZTD was going to be leaps and bounds ahead of it but exactly the opposite happened.
I'd love to see the look on the brother=snake fags face's when the all the Delta shit went down.
>>343160597
read my intial post, i can play both vlr and ztd on my 3ds but i dont want to buy a flash cart just for 1 game and playind nds games on an emulator on my pc is ass, has nothing to do with graphics senpai
>>343160350
then yes, it was just a"the old guy really was there all the time"ending
>>343160407
Just go watch the "Safe" ending and the "True" ending on youtube.
>>343160680
There's also an iOS version.
>>343160678
>implying anyone remembers who Snake is
>>343160680
>and playind nds games on an emulator on my pc is ass
Even toaster can emulate DS. It's just VN
>>343160407
Why the fuck would you not want to play it? 999 is the best game in the series. If anything, play 999 and get synopsis for VLR and ZTD.
>>343160678
>VLR was bad
>>343160680
If you have an android phone (even a shitty one) you can emulate it. DS emulation is miles ahead in Android than on PC.
>>343160853
ass as in the resolution is shit on most nds emulators and i just don't like emulating portable games in general (aside from monster hunter) games run perfectly fine but dont play very comfortably
>>343160678
I think this is better than VLR.
VLR had a great ending but was overall pretty weak, ZTD has a decent ending and is amazing most of the game.
999 is better than both.
>>343160678
We didn't expect TZD to be good. We just hoped it wouldn't be worse than VLR.
>>343160881
>999 is the best game in the series.
VLR and ZTD are much better. 999 is just ever17 without any new ideas
Ok i just re-read the epilogue in VLR and fuck me does ZTD miss alot of stuff
>Phi is the patient 0 - yet she manages to survive until april the following year to be frozen
>why didnt they just get the vaccine and bring the forumla back to the past
>How did clover and Alice get their bodies and minds back to the past (if it was teh transporter, then was that implied by the schrodinger's cat)
>Kyle was 'absolutely necessary' but wasnt used in ZTD
>I thought You couldnt inhabit other people's bodies with a different conscienousness, but Kyle did it
>Kyle wasnt born in 2028, why would he need to be there
>Who is [?] >If [?] is BW, why is he BW. Why does he need to exist
Seems to me that ? is some over powered magic Shifter that couldnt possibly be in the new game because it would have broken the entire concept
>>343160881
guess i'll have to shell out some moneyfor a flash cart then, prolly won't play the series for acouple weeks then
>>343161012
There were anons that seriously expected this to be the best game in the series.
Some even expected it to be like Ever 17.
>>343161030
>999 is just ever17 without any new ideas
This is the most retarded thing I've ever read.
>Phi's brooch came from Phi, who gave it to Diana who birthed Phi who sent Phi to the past, who was then sent to the future so past Phi could raise future Phi, then past Phi will give future Phi the brooch
Also what the fuckSo VLR Phi shifts into ZTD Phi, and then in the timeline where radical 6 is released into the populace, the Phi consciousness originally from VLR takes part in VLR again?
>>343161035>Phi is the patient 0 - yet she manages to survive until april the following year to be frozen
75% of people are immune to it.
>>343161035
Ignore the Another Time epilogue, it pretty much ruins the trilogy now.
>>343160678
I'm not sure how to feel about a lot of theories discussed about ZTD being better than what we actually got.
>>343161035? = Blick Winkel = morphogenic field = player.
>>343160291
But Carlos is pretty good though.
Jumpy and Akane both deserve each other. Crazy ass people I tell ya.
Tenmyouji > Jumpy > Bored-ass fuck Junpei.
>>343161097
VLR is ever17 though
>>343161104
VLR epilogue:
KYLE: Please don't dodge the question. About five hours ago, Akane attacked you with a knife. That triggered something, which sent your mind back to the past, correct? Specifically, you were sent to point D - April 13th, 2029. On that date, your body was already in Akane's custody, although by then you were in cold sleep. You wouldn't have regained consciousness, but your mind was now inhabiting that body. That pod was your home for forty-five years. You slept there, frozen, until the time was right. Then, on January 25th, 2074, you were finally thawed out, even though you didn't wake up. Still unconscious, you were carried to the AB Room. That was when your consciousness changed bodies again. A version of you from December 25th, 2028 arrived, pushing you out, and sending you back to December 25th, 2028. This is when you finally woke up. In 2028, you found and joined forces with Sigma, whose older mind was inhabiting his younger body. Together, you attempted to infiltrate the Mars mission test facility. Unfortunately, your plan failed. The Radical-6 did escape on New Year's Eve. That failure determined the path you followed. Instead of going along the line that branches out to the right from point E, you headed straight to point D. Point D being April 13th of the following year. That was the day that you made your way to Akane's hideout and asked to be put into one of the treatment pods. Another consciousness enters your body around that time, from the future. It is, of course, the version of you that left your body when Akane attacked you in the garden. This caused the two versions of you to swap places. And you moved forty-five years into the future, where you woke up on the garden floor. That put you on the line that comes here. So if we discount the time you spent in cold sleep, for you, only three and a half months have passed since that happened - "That" being when you were sent back into the past from the garden.
Oh, motherfucker, I forgot to write down the X-Passes forthe "Kill two teams with acid button" ending with the Q team. I know one of them was QUARK, does anyone remember the other 5?
>>343161079
Ever17 is nothing compared to Remember11
>>343161097
999 was your first Uchikoshi's game?
>>343161227
Use the LOG. It's in the game for a reason
>>343161153>? = Blick Winkel = morphogenic field = player.So, Kyle went back in time, to inhabit the player, while ? (who didnt need to exist) went forward in time for no reason
Thats extremely unnecessary
>>343161138
>75% of people are immune to it.according to zero, radical-6 has a 75% kill rate
Why are people so fucking stupid and put their meme arrows within spoiler tags constantly?
How do they not know that it fucks up the spoiler tags?
I wasn't spoiled on anything, I just can't stand how stupid the people who are trying NOT to spoil are.
>>343161283
It was a just a hook telling the player to buy the sequel if they want to find out what happens. Don't read too much into it.
>>343161251
Oh shit, didn't think it went back that far. My bad.
>>343161283Kyle was not in ZTD but yes, I think the inclusion of Blick was silly since nothing major was done with it.
>>343161227
you dont have to write them if you dont have to type the codes after they're announced
>>343161138
It's 25%, not 75%.
>>343161323
>expecting newfags to lurk
If only.
>>343161283
>So, Kyle went back in time, to inhabit the player, while ? (who didnt need to exist) went forward in time for no reason
It's not really explained where Kyle was supposed to go. As ZE3 doesn't say add anything about him it's better just to ignore the epilogue
>>343161234
Remember 11 is worse than Ever 17.
Some people expected this to be like Every 17 in the sense that they expected BW shenanigans and some mind blowing twists that lead to a conclusive and happy ending.
People who have played Remember 11, however, would know to not expect something conclusive from Uchi ending a trilogy, specially when budget is running out.
>>343161187
Fuck I get it, that stupid time jumping map from VLR was such a clusterfuck. Thanks
>>343161323>ok, autismo-kun
>>343161429
>>343161294
Yeah, got that mixed up in my memory there.
So what's the best game in the series?
999 is best a separate entity, VLR is best as a part of the trilogy
>>343161567
VLR for me.
>>343161567
ZTD
>>343161567
VLR.
I wish the ending was more conclusive, but I do like what we got. The whole story of the first to games was using the morphogenetic field to make sure things happen, but as it progressed it became something more. Using it proactively instead of reactively as the ending and game overall shows seemed like the logical conclusion to the trilogy
>>343161567
999 for the atmosphere and a good ending
VLR for TWISTS and Dio shenanigans
ZTD for... um...ayyliens?
>>343161567
999 > ZTD > VLR
VLR has little to offer aside from that amazing buildup and ending on the last leg of the game.
It's like a reverse ZTD, but ZTD still had a satisfying ending on top of that, it was just too short.
>>343161567
I agree with your assessment, but argue that ZTD serves as the balance between the two. It concludes the overarching plot while being it's own thing. If it were more of a trilogy entry, people would like it more I imagine
>>343161567
999 is my favorite.
Still not sure if I like VLR or ZTD better.
I think I'd say VLR.
I genuinely like them all, but I think ZTD didn't do a great job as a closure for the series.
>>343161796
Is ZTD really that short?
>>343161796
>ZTD had a sastysfying endingYou literally accomplish nothing in this game. The whole plot was to get all the espers are in a proper state of mind.It sucks.
Are you excited for the ZTD Q&A where Uchi will beg people to shill the game so we can get a 4th one? Uchi is playing us like a fiddle, he's this fucking close to losing his job.
>>343161474
>People who have played Remember 11
Ever17 is overrated. It's worse version of 999 with retardism. But rabu rabu elements win audience.
>>343161931
around 20 hours
>>343161995
>Uchi
>proper closure
Pick one
I tried playing Ever17 but I couldn't tell what the fuck was happening in the first 2 hours
>>343161995
I doubt he'll even answer most of the hard questions.
>>343162028
Ever17 is "ok" to "boring as fuck" depending on the route until you hit Coco's which makes you forget the terrible slog you had to go through. It's easy to forgive pacing issues if the payoff is great.
>>343158838He can speak without helmet too though.
>>343161995
Can't you bozos just enjoy a simple game God fucking damn.
>>343162028
I think the pacing is abominable but I have yet to find a harder mindfuck anywhere.
>>343161992Lel what does "getting the espers in a proper state of mind" even entail? Akane Sigma and Phi have already demonstrated that they're willing to put their lives on the line to save 6 billion lives, let alone 8 billion. Carlos fucking risks his life every fucking time to save one or two fucking lives. Eric and Mira are not espers so fuck them. Diana will follow Sigma's cock wherever he goes. Junpei follows Akane's vag wherever she goes. ZTD really was stupid. Or perhaps too fucking complicated for me to understand
>>343162245wireless speakers
>>343162298
>Lel what does "getting the espers in a proper state of mind" even entail?complexmotives
>>343162273
Hmm. Uchi's english isn't this good. Is that you Karen? Uchi hyped the fucking game as the finale. He said it was the big fucking finale to the series, who has really dedicated fans. Fucking spoilers, it wasn't we got played like a god damned fiddle. Uchi is this fucking close to getting that pink slip. By having fans beg for a follow up game, he's basically trying to give Spike Chunsoft/Aksys bad press if they don't allow him another one.
>>343162393Explained in the next few sentences
Is there a video of full endings uploaded somewhere yet?
What happens ifyou tell Eric that Delta killed Mira?
>>343155730
remember11's ending kind of works in how unsettling and mysterious it is. it leaves you wanting more. ztd's ending is basically just "alright here are the answers to the mysteries. we done here? k peace." of course neither are as satisfying as ever17's perfect catharsis. i can't think of a better ending than that.
>>343162298
Because it's important, I assume, thatthe Old Sigma and Phi from VLR's events stop the le terrorist, not just any incarnation of them.
>>343162602
Remember11's ending only works if you read the blog
>>343162561Probably the "you are not making any sense" -option
>>343161992
That's like saying you didn't accomplish anything in VLR because it's a closed time loop just purposed to train Sigma in a failed timeline.
ZTD had a satisfying ending,you reunite Junpei and Akane, you get to know the mystery of Brother, Phi, and see how VLR was set into motion. You get to see Old Sigma finally getting his happiness with Diana. You also stop Radical-6, which ended up being simply a countermeasure to not stopping the terrorist (which required the espers to be in a proper state of mind).Plus doing it all while using quantum superposition as a gimmick is really cool.
I could understand if you found it underwhelming, or even inconclusive because it didn't solve everything, but saying you don't accomplish anything is simply false and stupid.
>>343162665
>>343162561
Just did it
"I don't know who the hell that is"
>>343162561
something along the lines of "It's clearly impossible"
what are all the options in the three way standoff?
>>343162297
It's probably because of classic "VN" romance. It's give you more "self-insert" feelings. That's why plot twist hit so hard for first time. But I will not lie, I like romance in e17
>>343162561
He says, "I don't know who the fuck that is!"
>>343162695
What if you saySean?
>>343162561
>>343162738
What's more interesting is what he says when you input Q
>>343162742SO IT WAS YOU
they know his name, just don't mention it on screen :^) Please enjoy my tweeest
So is this game a conclusion to the series or not? It might have already been said in this thread earlier but I'm trying to avoid reading the thread because of spoilers.
Why did junpei turn into such an asshole?
>>343162650
The discussions in /jp/ were more fun than reading blog
>>343162791
Isn't thatthe correct choice?
>>343162793
Why do you even keep posting in these threads if you don't like Uchi twists.
>>343162742
>>343162695
>>343162561
>>343162665
If you typeQhe says "That's clearly impossible!"
If you typeSeanhe says "I see, I knew it was you!"
>>343162650
you mean the extra TIPS at the end? i mean, clearly it was an unfinished game, but i still got some enjoyment out of the shock value of the very last scene. objectively, it's not much of an ending but i still really enjoyed it for some reason. what blog are you talking about?
>>343162812
No, they still have tosave the world
>>343161796
Was brother even mentioned in this game and how its related?
>>343162812
TL;DR: It is supposed to be and they are advertising it as the conclusion to the series, but it still leaves things unanswered.
>>343162812
It is.
It doesn't answer every Q&A and leaves out what happened toKyle, however.
>>343162706
Probably so. I honestly haven't read many VNs and I read 999 before ever17 but I only like VNs for mindfucks. I made the mistake of readingthe Muv-Luv trilogyfor the mindfucks and boy that was a bigger disappointment than ZTD ever was.
>>343162845
Not him, but the other twists at least affected the characters in some way. This one is just for the player.
>>343162892
Of course he was, he's literally the center of the whole plot.
>>343162839
no, the correct choice issaying nothing and letting the time expire
>>343162892
Yes ZTD mentions BrotherIt shows Brother's birth, who his parents are, who Left is, who his twin is, and also Brother is Zero in this game
>>343162951
Sigma being an old man doesn't affect anyone other than the player however.
>>343162819
It makes sense why when you realize/learn what he went through.
>>343162868Why does Eric think it's impossible for Q to have done it?
>>343162892
Yeah but honestly, it's as if the Brother from VLR and the Brother in ZTD are completely and utterly different people. Probably because ZTD was to cater to newcomers to the series.
>>343163035
Not really
>>343162426
I don't give a fuck what you retards hyped into. I played VLR 3 years ago, signed some blue bird facebook shit, then played ZTD without looking into any drama. It's a great game, not the best climax but im ultimately satisfied.
Like i said, try to just play and enjoy a game you stupid fuck.
>>343163016
It does affect Sigma. He thought he was his young self.
>>343163091
Are you retarded?
>no kyle
>diana is a dumb, submissive whore
dropped
>>343163069
They don't seem like different people.
ZTD's Brother does have a cult and he is ruthless as fuck.
>>343163013
ZTDdoesn't mention Left at all. Don't lie to him.
>>343163035
Plus he gets over it fairly fast in-game.
>>343163091
Are you so sheltered that you have never experienced any traumatic event and have only known blissfully ignorant happiness throughout the entirety of your life?
>>343163013
Wait a minute. They never showed who Left is.
>>343163060
This answer spoils the game.Q is the name of the old man/delta/zero/brother, not Sean (the robot wearing the mask)
>>343163060Q is, to Eric's knowledge blind, deaf and can't walk. It doesn't make sense for Mira to die, and there was a struggle at some point. On that note, how did Delta kill Mira? Maybe I just forgot. was itMINHACK?
>>343163173
Sure but it's never used in-game and barely even mentioned. And the Brother we got felt completely... off.
>>343163174
>ZTDdoesn't mention Left at allDelta mentions his not blood related brother
I miss K from 2nd game. He was a cool character.
>>343162870
There was japanese blog with explanation of everything. It based on interviews and other shit as I remember. Here original http://f9.aaa.livedoor.jp/~glassun/ is dead already. English version is not fully translated tho. Only russian one
>>343163237It's alwaysMINDHACK
>>343163275Who is not confirmed to be Left.
>>343163132
But anon, sigma is the player.
>>343162298
>Or perhaps too fucking complicated for me to understand
It's really simple yet you still didn't get it. The game in ZTD serves more than one purpose, all those timelines were needed for Phi and Brother to exist as they are, he says this literally.
>>343163316
>one spoiler decides to not work
Thanks 4chan.
>>343163291
Apparently Uchikoshi didn't miss him.
>>343162912
Read Root Double/YO-NO. Muv Luv is not about mindfucks
MIND
>>343163291
Akane is in ZTD though
>>343163397
I've heard of Root Double. How does it stack up mindfuck-wise to ever17? What is YO-NO about? Hell, what is Root Double about too?
>>343163241
He didn't feel off to me, he was the ruthless, manipulative guy I expected him to be, only he had good motives instead of evil ones.
Plus we learned shit about his cult anyway.
>>343163316
Did you really need the game to spell it out for you? It was obviously Left.
>>343163332
Are you high? I'm questioning the purpose of "getting the espers in the right state of mind". Not the fact that there are multiple reasons.
DAMN
>>343157035
that's not an excuse.
>>343163487
Gotta put the piranha in the tank so the koi's survival instincts kick in.
>>343163476
>Did you really need the game to spell it out for you?
Yes since Left was so important to Brother that his death caused Brother to create the entire cult in the first place. And then "a non blood-related brother" is casually mentioned once.
Sean is Left
>>343163332
>sigma is the player
Do you understand that there is a difference between
>a character in a story (and you through his perspective) realizing he's old
and
>you realizing you're playing an old man
>>343162971
You can also answerI DONT KNOW
Anyone else enjoyed having Dianapush the yellow acid shower buttonand thebomb button?
Also, her facial expressions are hilarious, I need her high res screenshots
>>343163487
I thought you meant ZTD as a whole was stupid or too complicated, not just that one purpose of the game.
And getting the espers in the right state of mind is pretty much what VLR did with Sigma, wasn't it? ZTD had to happen so the shifters learned to work together for the future of humanity, call it training if you want. Sigma also trained in VLR, but what he trained was the magnitude of his powers. Different training, but similar concept.
>>343163661
Huh.
I wasn't aware of this.
Thanks.
>>343163663
We'll have them tomorrow morning
So is there any purpose toDelta being in the Q team? Why wasn't it just Eric, Mira and Seanother than to serve the own game's story by having a tweest.
>>343163572
It's irrelevant if he was non blood related, someone raised alongside you as a brother will be your brother regardless of blood ties.
And I don't feel like Left would've been relevant for the plot, we already know all we need about him.
The little bonus for everyone's late watch is fucking $20 amazon credit. I thought it was gonna be something cool. NOPE
>>343163643
I wasn't even the anon you were replying to.
But on the subject, the presence of Sean did affect other teams.
>>343163823
>$20
Only $10 for one copy.
Also, it's better than nothing.
>>343163823
Wait what? Has Aksys posted anything about the bonus gift?
I thought that the credit to our Amazon wallet was given by Amazon as a way of saying sorry for the miscommunication fuckup.
>>343163895
The presence of Sean wasn't the twist.But Sean not being Q was part of it, which everyone already knew, even Sean himself
>>343163998
It was.
There was some tweet about including the mini-OST and an artbook, I think.
So when did sigma have the time to rape you know who and pop out some youngins
Page 8, someone make a new thread.
>>343163753
not really, he could have been in a hidden room all the time and the plot would still work
but there wouldn't be aforcedtwist and apparently that would be bad
>>343164058
play the game retard
>>343163998
As far as I know, Aksys hasn't confirmed that this was the bonus.
He's only making an assumption. It's most likely true imo.
>>343164057
I thought that was regarding the Steam preorder bonus.
>>343163684
Now that you mention VLR, Sigma's "training" got thrown out the window. He was supposed to be training his Shifting powers so that he could retain his memories while he jumped. But in ZTD,everyone retains their memories anyway.
>>343164057
To be honest, while Amazon did screw up their message, I really can't expect CSRs to get anything right.
Now, I'm just waiting for Aksys to finally own up to their mistakes instead of blaming Amazon for the delay in our Limited Edition's shipment. And I do hope that they get their shit resolved soon.I was hoping that they'd just send out codes to all LE buyers, but alas. Thank the heavens the 3DS version got leaked, or else this would have turned into an even worse clusterfuck than it already is
>>343164123
fuck u nigger
>>343164263
Did it ever explain why they did?
>>343164285
Well I meant that the tweet from Aksys that included that is supposed to be the 'reward'. The Amazon credit was separate and wholly from Amazon.
>>343147889
It's the easiest shit in the world
The max value is 13
What FUCKING humber can be multiplied times itself 3 times and still fall under the range 0-13? THERE, YOU FOUND OUT WHAT NUMBER THE MOON IS.
The person as well if you're not retarded.
>>343164350They resonated with each other:^)
>>343164137
Really? Well that fucking sucks if it's true, 'cause I spent a sizable amount of my day today talking to some Amazon reps about it, which is why I got my shipping cost removed, got upgraded to global priority shipping, and got that $10 credit.I live in Canada, and online chat with an Amazon US CSR isn't available to us, so it's a fucking hassle to continue the conversation with various reps because most of our communication is done via email.
>>343164416
max value is 12 you mong
>>343164491
Could still be something different. Why not try asking Aksys Danny or AksysGames on Twitter yourself?
>>343164502
Ahh yes, my bad, max value was person, moon, moon.
I'm stuck and dunno wtf to do after doing all the shifting withcarlos and junpei saving akane and trying to uncover who Q really is
I found out thatQ is Sean and zer gave me a code which is 8 digitsbut i dunno how to input it anywhere at all? Its not for the force stop boxes or the truth door. I already saw all teams excecuted I dunno what to do. How do I make Q teamcheck behind the zero painting? I went back to the puzzel room and examined it but nothing
I really dont know how to proceed please respond with hints
>>343164703Did you finish the "who killed mira" decision?
The solution is:To let the timer run out
>>343164703
Check story locks. If you have already uncovered the mystery of the Lounge then the flow chart should make it easier.
>>343164998
Shit thats probably what Im missing. Is there a hint or am i just stupid for not doing that
>>343165291
Whenever there's a timer, always remember that letting it run out is a valid option.
