Who else here is actually learning/trying to make a game, but suck at art and music and are too poor to afford to hire anyone who's good at either?
>>342986170
I'm sure the are forums where you can find amateur musicians and drawfags who are willing to help
>>342986170
There are various resources online that will help you learn anything you need to learn.
>>342986170
I know that feel bro.
My game was going along well until I had to let go of programmer art.
It's much easier to be an artist without knowing how to program than the opposite. You can just copy paste shit from stack-overflow.
I'm trying to improve on my art skills lately but I would have no idea where to start with making a game.
My friend has tossed out the idea that we make a fighting game using Mugen. Could be fun honestly but there's a lot that goes into it.
>>342986836
You're a faggot. Don't post again.
>>342986170
I remember this thread!
>>342987565
Post
Artfag here. I MIGHT do a few things for you depending on the project.
>>342986170
who's the faggot who keeps posting this shit?
>>342986170
oh boy are we doing this?
>>342988252
it's the designated OP picture for pixel art threads now
but mods don't like the newest incarnations of the top row so the thread is probably gonna die soon
>>342986170
Just post more edits of this. That's what we're all here for, anyway.
>>342986170
I'm in the reverse situation
>>342989118
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>>342988890
>>342989010
>Both of my fetishes
Anon please, this is too much
>>342986170
I know a bit about making videogames. Atleast I am good/decent at art though.
>>342986170
Learn 3D modeling, OP. Assuming you're a programmer, you're probably better at math than you are at art, and 3D modeling is a much more mathematically-inclined art form.
>>342988890
last one is legitimately cool. looks like something out of shantae
>>342988890
This is the best one
>>342988890
>>342989010
at the end of the year there's gonna be like 500 different rows of this shit collected in one image
There is a thread for this already you dumb faggot.
>>342930494 →
>>342986170
Finding a programmer, and good leader, are the two most difficult things. If you can build a decent prototype, and aren't a complete autismo with a lot of drive, then it's butt-easy to find artists. You just have to give them the promise that a project won't fail, and they'll come flocking to you. In order to do that, you only need to build a functional prototype.
Hell, if you could build a simple arrow key moving mechanic, then artists are ready to hop on.
These threads prove one thing, and that's literally anyone can make shitty pixel art with no effort. Fuck western indie games who still use that shit as a crutch.
>>342989696
I can't wait.
wait is this the pixel art bread or not cause i'm not seeing a whole lot of pixel art here
>>342989696
Nah, I'm bored of it already.
The cowgirl version sounded nice. So maybe. But not likely. Everyone else stopped drawing them.
>>342986170
I'm the opposite
I want to help indie game companies by drawing for them
but no one really is looking for artists on my end
they all cry for it in some of these threads, but when confronted, get scared and say they'd rather work for themselves, so there'd be less complications
also because there are shitty artists out there who have better connections but are actually terrible artists that don't do their job correctly which leads programmers to believe that artists aren't even worth looking for to try and work with at all
sucks
How do I game as an artfag?
every time people review my game, they praise everything but shit on the art.
I don't have enough money to comission my friend to do everything, but hopefully a full fledged and complete game with good gameplay can raise some KS bucks to finish it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNmbHkNFZ5Y
>>342990526
go to pixeljoint. They have a job offering section.
>>342990472
Neat
>>342990526
Nobody wants to have to PAY an artist or treat them as a person at all. They say all that thinking that they're sparing your feelings when it's clear that they're afraid you'll ask to be treated like a human being instead of a work mule.
>>342990749
The battle sprites look fine, but a little... I don't want to say Flash Game-y but, it looks flash gamey.
The UI could use a ton of work, especially the font for the HP/MP numbers. And the spell icons look like shit but I'm guessing they're placeholders.
Not a fan of the overworld graphics either.
Hopefully you get a successful kickstarter, your game looks like fun. Once it's up I'll at least spread it around on my social media.
>>342990749
You could fix it up a lot just by making sure all your outlines are the same (or at least a standardized) width. You might need to do this with shaders or something.
>>342990526
>indie game companies
>companies
>>342991138
Why do these threads always lose the harsh tone of criticism of 4chan?
It's like you all are a little bunch of fragile fairies that can't handle it, but are fine dishing it out.
Despite all memes and shitposting you are not a little girl, talk to him like you normally would.
>>342990749
Your game looks like absolute dogshit. I draw like that when I was a child. Bright stupidly saturated colors everywhere. I would never play this, I don't care if it plays well. It looks like regurgitated ass. Game is so bad it looks like a joke, learn how to draw or get somebody who can.
Here's a classic
>>342986170
dumb thickposter
>>342991614
there's threads for edge and there's a threads for hugboxing
sadly for you, this is the latter
>>342991814
Didn't know I was on fucking Reddit. Your game looks like shit, by the way. Hispter retro pixel art indie shit is better than this trash.
>>342991634
Nice he kept my recoloring and learned from it!
>>342990832
I'd like to get treated like a real human bean anytime
the issue with this is that there are two things a project manager can ask you for
your vision, or your effort
vision would mean that an artist would have complete freedom over the project's design, and that everything would be laid out to look like so, while the latter would mean that the manager would want to have nothing to do with you other than your labor.
its a big grey area that really just slips into madness when neither the manager nor the artist really knows what the other one wants
I'd work for free because I'm alone and want to know how all of this works before I move on to paid work
>>342991236
groups
you can tell I'm already blind to this kind of business
I can program a little, I don't know how to make sprite art too well, but it will come in time.
>>342991634
the cape definitely makes it a lot better
it looks really generic and boring without it
>>342991614
>Why do these threads always lose the harsh tone of criticism of 4chan?
making games is hard
but I agree hugboxes are bad
>>342991614
If I thought it looked like shit I'd say it looks like shit.
I think it could use some work, so I'm saying it could use some work.
>>342989967Thenwhyaren'tyoucashingin?
>>342991634
>went from shitty indie art garbage to castlevania
woah
I'm trying to learn to draw, so that I can do art for myself, but it takes a lot of time to work on code, scenario, maps and graphics. And all I'm doing is a small RPG Maker game.
>>342991614
>WAH WHY AREN'T YOU BEING A SHITPOSTING ASSHOLE
If it makes you feel better, I'd like you to hang yourself
>>342991634
Hot damn, anon you've improved a hundredfold
>>342991971
>groups
It's probably true for some people but I feel from browsing agdg a lot games are just products of neckbeards in their basements.
>>342991614
>>342991814
Fuck being edgy for the sake of edgy. And fuck the hugboxing too. These threads are about being constructive. And in doing so, you should reinforce the good, while highlighting the bad,k so it can be fixed.
Reinforcement is a part of the critical process, because often time, people will ruin the good parts, in their attempts to fix the bad parts. You have to make sure people know what not to fuck with.
>>342991869
Sir, are you aware of how mad you're going right now?worthless faggot
>>342991614
Because shitting on someone over their objectively inferior opinions is different from trying to give someone else legitimate criticism?
>>342990749
He's right, though, the game looks like ass. And the trailer is poorly designed. And I think I saw a fucking exposition dump at the start. I wish you well, but I can't offer any advice. Its aesthetic is just awful.
>Want to make a game
>Can't draw
>Can't program
>Can't fund
>Can only write
>Probably can't write either
>>342992194
Looks traced.
>Want to make a game
>The market is oversaturated and can't think on how to improve a genre
>>342992492
writing bros are always appreciated
you can always learn the rest except funding
I want to make a 2.5D FPS like doom that is filled with tits.
I don't even know whether I should learn C# or C++, and no idea what game engine I should learn to make it.
Fuck
>>342992789
>2.5D FPS
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
>>342992492
just make a text game
the guy who made CoC is making $20 000 per month on patreon
>>342986170
I got the art skills, gonna learn Gamemaker (RPGMaker VX Ace is shit) I just need a composer.
My real problem is I cant get criticism on any of my plots. What I want most is a compelling story. But I cant fix shit unless people tell me whats wrong, and they dont want to offend me. And my places to ask for help are limited without having the story stolen.
What do you guys use for background noise while working on your game?
>>342992896
3d world 2d characters and the opposite.
Since he wants something doom styled, he wants the former.
>>342992789
Just make a doom wad.
>>342992896
>like doom
anyone need eurobeat for their game
>>342992729
I'm not sure whether I should take it as a compliment or not. Also, I'm not sure as to what makes it look traced.
>>342993004
But that's 3d with 2d sprites?
>>342992961
/lit/ has crit threads.
>>342992789
You can
>make Doom wads
>make a raycaster
>make a Doom-like engine
>make an actual 3D game
Kind of ordered by difficulty.
How the fuck do I draw, I failed art twice, I took acting instead to get my credit in high school.
>>342991971
Ahh. Hrm.
I actually tried to work with my roommate once on making a webcomic once and we really couldn't come to a decent middle ground on vision vs. effort... it wasn't so much that I disliked his art or anything, it just seemed like the wrong fit for what I'd been writing, and he felt my writing wasn't a fit for his art, so we both lost motivation and quit rather quickly.
>>342992492
I cant get up the motivation to learn that stuff.
>>342991614
being an nonconstructive hostile fuck is just as bad as being a hugbox faggot
you both contribute nothing.
>>342993110
There's an odd sense of flatness that generally wouldn't be there if you knew what you were doing.
If it's not it's still pretty good, though.
>>342991634
That Anon Who Made This here
i'm working on a walking animation based on that of Alucard, since the castlevania style sort of stuck. It's basically done but the cape is still a bit janky
it's strangely fun to make this shit
>>342992492
I'm terrible at writing and making music but atleast I'm good at the two necessary things. I wish I was a competent writer, anon. It's never too late on learning programming and art!
>>342993185
>>>/ic/1579290It's been so long since i linked to another board
Now go my son
>>342992492
>can't draw
didn't stop this guy
>>342991634
that was all in the span of like 2 week
>>342991138
Yeah, I get it all the time. First priority would be to get a good colorist, then backgrounds, hen finally better tilesets.
I'm making better spell icons right now, though, and I won't change the font anymore.
>>342991141
I was unfortunate with that screenshot, it showcases the most forcibly stretched out characters in both ways due to detail/size requirements.
in-game it doesn't look that jarring.
>>342991614
I take harsh criticism all the time, and I have no problems with it, but if it's just shitposting or telling me stuff I already know I simply disregard it.
You get better with criticism, and you get more motivated with hugboxes, we devs need these both and must learn how to deal with them accordingly.
>>342992481
i agree, I hate doing trailers, but I'll hold onto it until I get farther into development, maybe hire someone else to do it.
>>342990526
As a programmer who can't draw for shit, I would love an artist to take interest and help me with my project.
But the ones I talked too either wants me to tell them what to draw or they go do their own thing (which is similar to shit you find in the horrible corners of Deviant Art). Since I don't really have an idea of what I what I always let them design their own thing and it just turns out so awful I have to cut ties with them after telling them its not what I had in mind (to spare their feelings on how their ideas are garbage).
I'm just trying to make a SRPG in the style of Final Fantasy Tactics, but the last 2 artists I got into contact with, it didn't work out. One of them drew the stereotypical tumblr outlook (red swollen noses, multiple colored people without any consistency etc), and another basically drew a bunch of shitty sonic OC (granted the person knew their shit when it came to line-art and structure), when I asked if they could draw something else (I was okay with furry if it didn't look like fetish pandering), they refused.
I really don't know how to get artists, but it doesn't help that I provide little guidance other than what my game is. I think I need a writefag as well to make a setting
>>342993349
I'm glad you took my palette teachings to heart man. Good luck with what you're doing.
>>342991634
>>342993349
Holy shit, I remember when you posted that very first sprite in one of these threads weeks ago. That level of improvement is insane.
Fuck, maybe I should be practicing my pixel art too.
>>342993349
looks like garbage
I'm attempting to become a Jack of all trades. I am currently bad at everything.
>>342993572
>I don't really have an idea of what I what
>its not what I had in mind
R u stuped anon?
>>342993337
this anons basically telling you that you need more shading and depth. Try more of a cel shading look.
>>342993337
I'm guessing a part of that is because I don't know anything about coloring and shading and mostly just rely on a ton reference images.
I also lazied out on parts of the body and mostly tried to put detail into the torso area.
For reference https://a.pomf.cat/mmaakc.png
>>342993770
I stated that it was a lie in my post, it was what I said to spare their feelings because while its true I don't know what I want, I know what don't want.
Where does an amateur musician go to work on projects? Ideally for free since I'm not good enough to charge money.
>>342993624
thanks for the help.
If i didn't post all those updates and listened to the critizism i would've probably just stuck with pick related
Why the fuck is this shitty fucking thread allowed to be here at all times
Go to fucking /agdg/ you shitlords
>>342993572
first, show examples of their work because I'm curious
the way you get artists on board is through connections. you know people, you post your own work through forums, and spread the word. you set yourself up for a lonely failure, and thats just what you're going to get.
also, if you and the artist don't know what to do, then its never going to work. the artist and a project manager need proper coordination or else one or the other are going to quit through lazy waiting. It happened to me with two other people. I worked with a guy on steam trying to get a game going in UE4 but he didn't know what his game was going to be about at all, and he didn't hire any other artists besides me since he didn't really know what he was doing. the game failed because it was a year since we took off and he pretty much gave up and stayed in his comfy gmod server which he modded constantly instead of making the game.
also post your progress and give links, I want to see.
>>342994171
because its vidya related
>>342986170
so that bottom row is the girl gender bending into a boy right? cause those last two are not girls (female)
>>342993185
Watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs
Now here's something I drew so you can all call me a faggot.
You can tell summer is really here, all these edgy anons trying to attack it and not saying how to improve.
>>342993723
Why does it look like garbage anon? is there something that looks off? Not the person that made the pixel art but I'm rather curious why it's garbage.
>>342994019
Always criticize anon, don't be afraid to hurt feelings it's the only way improve.
Also why didn't you checked their previous work to know what you were getting
>>342994371
I drew this
>>342993986
Looks pretty good to be honest, but it looks like the head's shading is off (or not there at all) compared to the rest of the body.
Maybe just needs a slightly lighter tone.
>>342994371
thats not bad, keep it up faggot
>good at art
>can't code
>immediately lumped in with the idea guys because this is 4chan
>>342994421
More like most of /v/ have no idea how game dev actually goes. And WiP != final asset
>>342994580
>good at art
How about you prove it anon.
>>342994580
>good at art
>doesn't post art
>can't do a thing that just requires effort and practice
Weak.
>>342994580
Concetp art is cool m8
>>342994580
Alright, make a 3D crate for me
Like an actual model with textures. Show me your crate modeling skills.
>I'm not that kind of artist
Fuck off, idea boy
>>342994580
and you care what the retards on this site say, because...?
remembere we're talking about 4chan here, you're partly in the wrong for taking what people say here to heart
my art is shit but it doesn't stop me from using it in my games
not like i get paid to do this
>>342986170
this meme is f*cking awesome!!
>>342994882
>I'm not that kind of artist
But that's actually correct.
>>342994580
if you can into art youre not an idea guy.
idea guys have no tangible skills.
>>342995083
Anyone can do pixel art. I want a 3D crate.
>>342994617
This is pretty true, it's just terrible when people don't know the process of developing or drawing things. I mean I don't see anyone hug boxing in here. I use /ic/ for help and they do help. So we're in here to get help with making games.
>>342995152
Technically, anyone can do a 3D crate too.
>>342995083
so that's the good art you mentioned?
>>342986170
>>342988890
>>342989010
>>342989340
Will this ever be a game or is the original artist going to be a fuckboi and C&D any attempts by others while doing nothing with it themselves??
>>342991614
I'll tell someone with no redeeming qualities to not quit their day job or say nothing. I'll tell someone with obvious talent who did something wrong what to change. I'll compliment someone who did a good job.
Neck yourself, NEET.
>>342993857
I wish I'd knew how to shade properly and add depth. I just usually fuck around until I get to a point where it just starts looking good to me.
>>342994541
Yeah, I actually tried to make her skin overall darker, but I added too much light on her body compared to the head and neck. I'll fix that in a bit. Thanks.
>>342995197
Then let's see you make one.
>>342994580
but ivan, you must poost work before (You), no?
>>342994882
not him but I do all art besides pixels and I'm hoping that really doesn't kill me when I'm looking for work
>>342994926
living the dream
>>342993572
are you the dude that declined my work offer over gmail a couple of months ago
>>342992924
He didn't even write half that game.
He just spaghetti coded it.
>>342995285
Ya I declined you work over gmail because you can't do pixel art.
>>342995157
>to get help with making games.
Unfortunately these threads are 95% armchair devs with no experience.
>>342994882
not that guy but here's a 3D house i made
would you use it in your game?
>>342995278
Try to set up a vase or any object and put it into a room with natural light and draw it and shade it. It sounds stupid but it can help. OR you can draw a sun where the lighting is coming from and continue from there.
>>342994458
Because I'm new, it was my first experiences, and now I understand better.
>>342994278
It's been a few years and I don't remember if I have their artwork on file. I don't remember the tumblr stereotype's profile and the when I checked the other person's DA a couple years ago it was gone. The project is long dead, I just wanted to talk about it and see what I can learn for the future when I start over again.
My plan was to make a Final Fantasy Tactics like game with a heavier emphasis on clan battles with other people than story. As you progressed through the game, the clans you would fight in random battles would be other players teams rather than pre-determined builds.
I had a lot of stuff planned like classes, skills, stats, formulas, tiles, weapon types. I had a functional grid with movement, tiles with status effects, very basic combat, very basic networking etc. I wasn't using Github, but a free repository system elsewhere that shut down so I can't access my code
>>342995285
Not me, I haven't talked to anyone over 4chan about working since that Sugar and Spite 3D platformer game that died (and I didn't even work on it, I just inquired about it)
>>342991614
alright
cry me a river you faggy triggered bitch, post your own shit I'll tear you a new asshole for it you inbred cocksucker
better?
>>342993723
really? i think he looks fine in motion considering what i was going for.
please disregard the disgusting color palette, i was just quickly making a gif in aseprite and i don't really know how to transfer palettes into new files
the cape is a work in progress
>>342995659
I asked for a simple crate and you show me a house? No I would not. You can't follow basic instructions.
>>342995730
This is literally tracing Alucard.
>>342986170
>making a shit game for fun in my free time
>can't draw so it looks like shit
>don't want to pay some guy to draw shit
>nobody's gonna want to draw the massive amounts of stuff to draw for free
just fuck my shit up
>>342995659
I'd use it if I had the inclination to make a game.
>>342995778
A house is a big crate tho.
>>342995730
Give him a face pls
i can some of that stuff and kind of programing...well not much in any actually
>>342995730
It's fucking weird that the chest moves for like a single frame
>>342995946
I asked for a crate, you know what I meant, stop trying to weasel your way about it.
>>342995421
liar
>>342995692
sucks to suck. remember that connections are key.
>>342995905
I draw things for free if I get to draw cute things
>>342993130
yes
>>342996078
ohno you want a fucking plain ass box, even though anon showed you something even better.
>>342995778
>asks for a wood texture (that's all a crate is)
>post an example of wood
anyone can see how working with you would be a bad idea.
>tfw actually competent programmer and properly understand data structures and view-model relationships
>could make very in-depth and complex h-games
>0 art skill
>0 writing skill
>everybody else looking to make h-games wants to do it in rpg-maker or ren'py like retards and are the "programmers" themselves
>>342995857
basically yes
the hair is probably gonna be a little shorter though
>>342995972
i made this for you.
>>342996073
oops, that's a fuckup on my part. Will fix immediately
>>342995659
Textures are a bit rough but that's a good base. Keep at it anon.
>>342996062
Thanks for the entirely meaningless post that doesn't contribute at all to the thread.
>>342996271
>properly understand data structures and view-model relationships
You make it sounds like it's just not basic shit
>>342995730
My recommendation is to add more motion to the chest. Right now it looks like the arm just slides along it instead of it looking like the body is actually twisting and turning.
>>342995672
The vase practice sounds interesting, I'll try giving that a go. Thanks, anon.
>>342994054
/agdg/
>>342994362
I hope so
Who else here is actually learning/trying to make a game, but are great at art and music and don't need to hire anyone?
>>342996101
don't ever quote me or my son ever again
>>342996217
>>342996078
see, what anon is trying to demonstrate, everyone, is the very nature of artist vs programmer. you all need to see for yourselves that this bond is very sickly at times which is why it never works out a lot of the time.
>>342996271
I also worked for a guy making a porn game once in ren'py
I got 60 bucks a pop for each small portrait I drew of characters from the incredibles
his name was tropic from /aco/
>>342994580
Idea guys are anyone looking to offer unrealistic idea upon anything they don't know about. Being an artist makes you qualified to have ideas regarding art. Not game design.
>>342986170
I'd say a huge majority of the 15-18 crowd on /v/ think they are "learning/trying" to make a game. And then they grow up.
WHO THE FUCK IS MAKING THESE
>>342995730
You've made a very common mistake of keeping his upper body/head static. Looks unrealistic and lacks any dynamic.
>>342996330
Thanks you are a pretty cool guy
>>342989010
>>342989010
This is pretty cool. Where can I see more of your art?
>>342996503
honestly I want to know too
and does she transform into more things
>>342996413
and thank you for wasting your time doing this one.... o no , i am doing the same shit!
>>342996217
>>342996229
>Okay we need some crates for this part of the level
>Here ya go boss
>This is a fucking house
>Ya it's much better than a crate
>We need crates though, I told you we needed crates
>But this took more effort than crates did, boss. Why don't you appreciate that I put so much work into it?
>Pffft fine we'll fucking use your little houses
>>342991634
I think indie games manipulated my tastes so much I actually find dumb2 pretty.
>>342996697
I'd play it
how do i maek tlisets?
>>342996697
looks fine to me stop being a whiny baby
>>342996697
no one's going to make a 3D model of a crate just because some faggot on /v/ asked them
>>342996697
Did you really expect for someone to take time out of their day to paint and model something for you? the best you're going to get in here are examples of peoples work if that.
>>342996438
No problem, they actually taught me that one in highschool. So it's a good way to start learning how to shade.
>>342996697
I chortled.
>>342996784
>>342996865
>>342996930
>>342996934
>All of these apologists
>>342996930
But it works for yandere dev. Now make me that crate faggot while I make videos whining about time
>>342996435
was planning on maybe moving the shading as the chest moves, perhaps that would help?
>>342996535
yeah the chest needs some work, but i'm not sure if i can do anything with the head besides a forward push every step, any pointers?
Gonna need a source on those pixel boobies.
>>342996430
It is, but 99.999% of everybody who wants to make a game doesn't know even that.
>>342996503
look at how our daughter has grown
so this thread is now "get people to work whit you in a video game"?
Thought about getting someone to do Mega Man-y music, but probably end up attempting it myself. Music just takes so long.
>>342996468
Hope you enjoy working on your project for the next five years.
>>342997276
fucking diaper fetishists
>>342996779he's pretty cute
>>342997276
ignoring the fact that your character is a literal diaper furry, it looks decent
>>342997276
please change the sprite a bit, the underwear makes me uncomfortable.
>>342997368
Anon sometimes it's hard to communicate your idea
So as someone who's working on his own game, where the fuck do I find art people?
I need someone who can draw cute grill and cute boys but /ic/ came up with nothing in the self posting threads. Even the anons in this thread who post art aren't giving contact details.
I feel so lost.
/ic/ didn't get me muc
>>342986170
I have an older brother who makes quite a bit of music. He might be busy, but I will ask if he wants to make the soundtrack for my current game.
>>342986170
i have ideas for games i will never use, no one wants an idea man, so there goes that.
i like to draw, but i've been trying to get better in the last 11 or so years and so far im slightly above DA tier.
>>342986702
this
but for me, im so shit, i'd have to pay YOU for wasting you time on my "art"
>>342997276
Why not give him a suit of power armour or something instead of the underwear?
Other than that it looks good.
>>342997531
>post prototype
>get artists interested
>???
>profit
>>342997276
FURFAGS GET OOOUUUUTTT
>>342996104
the problem is that there's a bunch of shit to draw. This is a full game, so there's characters, backgrounds, inventory items, etc. and while you can draw cute shit, not everything is going to be able to be cute, and you're gonna have to draw a shit ton, because I don't want a game with 1 well drawn character and a bunch of shitty looking stickmen that I drew. Also it's not necessarily pixel art but the image sizes are really small so you won't be able to draw detailedly. I mean, if you understand all that sure, post your email
>>342997531
DeviantArt has a job forum for posting that you need work done or people offering their talents. It's where I found one of my artists whos responsible for this. Alternatively you can message artists you like and venture to other forums
>>342996976
>they actually taught me that one in highschool
I'm still punching myself that I skipped draw classes back in middle and high school.
>>342997387
>>342997429
>>342997498
Briefs, they change color depending on what sub weapon is equipped. Like Mega Man's armor does.
>>342997602
Astroboy ran around in underwear and nobody batted an eye at that. Mega Man is practically underwear + armor pieces.
>>342997656
That was my next step, actually. Not at the demo point so I figured I'd take a shot here considering the thread topic and all.
>>342986170
It's the other way around for me. Great at art design and music, but I'd be so hopeless at actually trying to make a game myself.
>>342997757
Atom was a robot and had no "underwear"
>>342997757
they look like diapers
and even if they arent, it's still a furry character in underwear
>>342997531
i'm going to be real with you, you only have two options
one is to get money and just straight up hire someone, simple. find someone competent that has worked on games before.
second is to do it yourself, actually learn to draw.
that's it. collaborations don't work 99% of the time, especially if it's done online. people disappear on you, there's too many miscommunications, people lose motivation, etc. fact is no one else is ever going to be as passionate as you about your game.
>>342986170
Try learning game design first, 90% of the shit that comes out of /v/ or /agdg/ is uninteresting bland garbage. Often it's just people trying to re make a game they liked or from their favorite genre but without actually understanding how the gameplay systems works and without trying to make any kind of innovation. It's basically these mediocre clones of great games that you see on the app store, play any of these and it's clear the devs have no idea how to make good design, they're often code monkeys who think game design can be done directly into code.
>>342997757
I can see your logic now, anon, and i take back all my hurtful statements
you're a good boy
<3
>>342997276
When you say mega-many music, you mean songs that loop and are about 1 min per loop? I can do that
>>342997276
Nice! This is similar to what I'm working on! (With more character detail that is)
http://gamejolt.com/games/cat-weapon-early-prototype-version/160379
>>342997757
Can you just ignore them and stop trying to rationalize it?
We know you're making a furry bait game. You know it's completely different than MM.
Just keep posting progress.
>>342997757
put a banana hammock on him instead
>>342997757
Boxers would looks way less disgusting, I think.
>>342997076
Add shadow to the face that moves back and force to simulate head turn and have the hair line move slightly.
>>342997276
>That conflict where you want to simultaneously shit on the furry, but also help a promising dev.
The scale of the testing ground looks to be half the size of what it should be. The character looks like a giant. Also, I know you worked hard on the run animation. But considering the speed the sprite is actually moving, that run animation is way over exaggerated.
>>342997531
are you making a porn game? sign me up
>>342997715
sure
>>342996503
I'd like to see and extra evolution of the succubus version.
>>342997757
Just make them look like not diapers
>>342997931
>>342986170
Don't listen to these retards OP.
Participate frequently in game jams and you'll surely meet a bunch of people who can help you later.
>>342997746
STOP
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THAT INNOCENT WHACKA
>>342997757
if you just want to peddle this game to othe furries the design is fine
If you wanna get the game out to the public you should at least give him some proper clothes because the average person and below-average wierdo aint gonna wanna run around as a half-naked furry
>>342997757
>Astroboy ran around in underwear and nobody batted an eye at that. Mega Man is practically underwear + armor pieces
They weren't sexualised characters meant to cater to fetishists who are fucked up in the head.
>>342997993
Gotta see how long it takes me to try do something upbeat. If I can't manage it in anything resembling a timely manner I'll probably start hunting for someone.
>>342998089
>>342998049
Me and the programmer were joking that getting a new subweapon should change what underwear he's wearing completely. But, that takes a bit more effort than just a palette swap.
>>342998106
Yeah, that tile is just from another game project. The run speed has actually been sped up considerably since I made that GIF.
>>342990832
We're just as much poorfags as you guys and with like half the social skills so cut us a break. :(
>>342996697
You're a funny guy anon.
>>342997754
I'm sad I didn't end up staying after school so my teacher could of helped me make a portfolio. I've been drawing seriously since I was 8 but man, I wish I cared more about it at the time and being like well I've never be an artist for anyone ever. Keep trying and also ask >>>/ic/ for help. It's a good way of getting basic art class.
>>342997757
It doesn't work that wayand most fursuiters wear underwear on top of their fursuit to hid the sheath so it's even worse.
>>342995730
reminds me of this
>>342998295
Not the artist here-desu. But honestly you're being very whiny and contrary over nothing. Just because something features an anthropomorphic animal, doesn't mean it has to be furry shit. It makes you look like a real jackass, thinking everyone would be turned off by it, too. People within the public are not this autistic about animals. It's just a design, and a neat one at that in my opinion, the underwear makes it kind of humorous.
>>342998524
shirtless and pants is perfectly acceptable, just like shirt and pantsless
visible underwear and buck naked is perv shit
>>342997931
Don't worry, I'm not THAT delusional. I got about 500 saved up now and have been budgeting money each month for character art.
>>342997746
Thanks, I'll have to check it out. Deviantart does have some pretty good people aside from the autists.
>>342998108
Sorry, no porn planned. Just waifus and husbandos and ecchi things.
>>342998524
he's wearing pants and shoes, not just briefs
>>342998524
This is a cartoony animal character. Not furfag bait.
While you're on the topic of art what are your thoughts on giving an artist complete creative control over their level? From enemies to its boss
>>342998524
We both know that was a different era and Crash was not lewd at all.
>>342998524
yeah crash is a bit different because
A) he's not in his underwear, he's wearing actual pants
B) he's a clear cut cartoon character and not blatant furry bait
>>342994371
>taking advice from an amatuer that's been stagnating for 8+ years
>>342998635
Oh god, this bait is so tempting. 8/10
I'm awful at everything,but I do have some ideas I want to execute,even If I have the worst drawing skills I feel like I gotta improve,even more so now that I see how much all of you are giving In to your projects,I feel like I have the responsability to athleast execute a little something I could leave the net before I bite the dust. You guys are really an inspiration,but a stressful one, I have to say.Man,your skills scare me dev anons!
I'll try and improve my drawing every few here and there,try and make up my own artstyle(there's not all that much places to learn art except weebtown) and hopefully realise to execute something I could show /v/ In one of those threads,and they'll be like ''Wow,I wouldn't wipe my ass with It,ok job anon!''
I am.
I just don't let it stop me.
>>342998635
>doesn't mean it has to be furry shit.
It literally is, though.
>>342998524
He has pants, is cartoonish and you'd have to reach really far to say he's sexual.
He was also made in a time where furries were basically nonexistent.
>>342998861
Furries have been around since the 50's. Fuck, most 70's science fiction novels featured furry girls on the cover or in the textif only you knew how many of us there really are
>>342995905
Just make it ascii and your autistic community will make the art/tilesets for you
>>342998829
When's the demo senpai
>>342998683
anime style or no anime style?
>>342998810
living the dream
>>342998753
it should be leveled to what the original project manager wants it to be. preferably, I'd say it should fit in with a narrative or story that the main guy wants to show. art is a representation of a vision, after all.
>>342998125
me 2
>>342998829
For how shit your art is it's admirable you've kept working on this for so long.
>>342998249
Don't worry anon I'm just giving him awhack
>>342998829
The rocket boots sold me.
>>342998464
>But, that takes a bit more effort than just a palette swap.
Do it, lazy furfag.
>>342999136
what kind of art do you even expect from an indie project
>>342998969
A lot of shit that would've passed just fine in the past wouldn't be okay today.
>>342998829
Holy nipples Batman.
This looks fun and not like shit.
I bought myself a graphics tablet because I needed good concept art, but kind of forgot that I can't draw for shit.
I'm getting used to the tablet now at least, but there's still a looong way to go.
Anyway, rate my ball.
>>342999104
Anime style preferably, but if the western stuff is cute/attractive enough I would be fine with that.
My main issue with western art is that is tends to prioritize style over attractiveness. Which is not bad in general, but not good for waifu/husbando bait.
>>342998969
I don't care that you are here. So long as you're not posting your disgusting fetish.And I say that as a furry artist, who hates 95% of the shit furries put out.
here's a sprite I did a long time ago.
before anyone says its shovel knight, I uploaded this on a website in april 2010.
>>342999402
I don't need to post my disgusting fetish, because nobody will fucking draw it.seriously how hard is it to draw romantic lesbian pictures without the girls being all "teehee look at us!"
>>342999237
I don't expect anything. Honestly his/your FX is pretty good, it's just the environments and the characters that look totally uninspired.
>>342999325
Why isn't the sun wearing any sunglasses?
>>342999402
here's a gif i made. what do you guys think?
>>342998829
Based Mayhem Dev
>>342999585
Left them in the car.
>>342999529
Looks like shovel knight desu
>>342999705
nigger you're just copying this bastard
>>342995730
>>342997531
There's a more sleazy route you can take. and that's start hanging out in artist streams. Because those streams are packed with other artists. And then when the topic of video games inevitably come about, mention that you're making a game. Don't lead with the idea that you're looking for artists at first. Just say your art is shit, and you're thinking about the time it would take to learn how to get good. The artists in the stream might not offer their work, but they will likely give you connections to artists they know.
>>342998793
>>342998847
It's furry shit if you decide for yourself that it must be furry shit, in which case you must be a bit of a dumb dumb.
I'm sorry but do you really think that anyone who doesn't thrive on 4chan culture will see it that way? If the designer does not intend it to be furry shit then it's not, you're just being cynical for the sake of it.
Admit it, if you were never exposed to furry culture and didn't obsess over how cancerous it is, you would NOT care about this design in that way.
>>342999554
Fur itself is a fetish.
>>342999325
learn to properly ball, squash and stretch isn't going to get you anywhere unless you learn timing and spacing first
>>342999831
Is this Doom Kaelthas?
>>342999705
he looks like he's snapping his fingers, like he's dancing
>>342999898
Doubling down only lowers the quality of the bait.
But you know what? By the time I finished reading your post, I reflexively started thinking of a serious reply. So again, 8/10.
>>342999769
reeee. I know you're baiting but shovel knight came out in 2013-14 I think. I actually remember looking at shovel knight and thinking it was the same thing. or maybe its just a really generic design
>>342998575
Yeah, I really neglected all the free time I had during my school years. Even now, though I'm a neet, I still have to deal with a lot of day to day problems which keep quite busy and don't allow me to work towards my goals as much as I'd like to.
Also, yeah, I periodically do visit /ic/, but mostly for reading material and other learning resources. I should really start hanging around there more often though.
>>342999949
Any reading material you'd reccommend for that?
>>342995659
i made a lasgun
>>343000017
yes, cyber kael'thas
>>342994580
>taking /v/'s opinions seriously
dude
this is the worst board on 4chan, that every other board uses as a synonym for newfag
Why do you care about their opinions?
>>342998829
>Prop Shredder -> Hightime
>>342986170
I tried to make a game but I fell flat more than you did
turns out I'm too retarded to code and pursuing what interests me is a hopeless task, so I should just resign myself to being unhappy and unaccomplished.
>>342997209
>our
did you make a sprite for it?
>>343000247
>this is the worst board on 4chan
That's not /tv/, /int/ or /tg/
Did a quick chicken scratch for my main character, I'm starting to like her more.
what engine would you guys suggest for a 2d castlevania-style game? I'm trying out Unity and it's working alright but tiles and such are hell to work with
i have no scripting experience whatsoever btw
>>343000362
>/tg/
>worse than /v/
You could have said /r9k/ or /b/ but you took the objectively wrong answer.
>>343000210
Oh, lasgun, WOW!
Sugoi desu!
Good job!
>>342986170
any simple pixel art requests?
>>342986170
I was making a gui based life sim/rpg but i cannot into gui art so it's dead in the water. I can code though.
>>342993234
You should post the better edit of that
>>343000621
Huge tits
>can program
>attempt to make a card game
>realize halfway that it's a nightmare to code all the effects on cards
jesus fuck
>>343000518
Every /v/ poster I've spoken to outside /v/ is actually a decent person -if a bit of a meme lord- who just throws shit around as catharsis.
Every /tg/ poster I've run into outside /tg/ is just as snobby, elitist and fucking moronic as their posts would indicate.
>>342994580
>shit at coding but good at art
>just use UE4 blueprints or Unity playmaker
>shit at art but good at coding
>shit out of luck
Stop fucking crying and go make gaem. We're all going to make it.
>>342986170
Anyone have the source on this?
>>343000710
Regardless, we're speaking about the general quality of the boards and not the character of their posters. /v/'s shitposting is a much worse problem than the arrogance and egoism of /tg/.
>>343000710
> you've run into 4chan spergs irl
How and I'm sorry for you
>>343000682
Sounds super simple unless you aren't using OOP.
>>342992492
You can try RPG Maker and a couple of plugins
>>342997757
This character seems strangely familiar somehow.
>>343000516
game maker studio
>>342995730
Way too much movement on the cape/hair, if he's only walking it should only be bobbing by a couple of pixels
>>343000818
some guy on /v/
>>342999809
>talking to people
>>343000198
>spoonfeed me when i'm capable of going to /ic/ and look in the sticky
>>342998829
Shit that looks fun as hell, those rocket boots look cash as hell
>>343000929
>he's never seen alucard
>>343000198
Animator's Survival Kit is about as standard as it gets, I'm sure there's plenty of resources online for basic animation regardless though
Bouncing ball is the usual first exercise in animation, and it focuses on spacing and timing to give the illusion of speed, gravity, etc. Its super easy, the more frames it takes to travel the slower its going and vice versa, then you get into ease ins and ease outs
>>342995972
I don't think you're supposed to give them faces
>>342998829
Jet Set May Cry
>>343000943
does he have a site or something?
>>343000965
>I won't spoonfeed someone by spoonfeeding them.
Sticky on /ic/ it is.
>>343000917
>suggesting gamemaker to anyone ever
disgusting 2simple5u hardware, you want him to make tumblrtale 2 or something?
>>343000516
learn C# and bear with Unity, it's better in the long run
>>343001174
not anything I've seen.
>>342989340
>platformer with a power-up system where she gets thicker
>>342997757
Maybe just change his hair color and forget the underwear all together.
>>343001305
dam
>>342997757
>using Astroboy as an excuse to validate a reskinned Pamperchu
Yeah how about no
>>342997757
Make it a girl and you've got me sold
>>343001228It's to pretend he has the illusion of finding something by himself ya git
>>343001113
Appreciated. I'll get on it and animate another ball with this newfound knowledge.
>>343001318
Dino-duck is dancing.
>>343001426
Sorry anon.
I want to know if anyone else does this with their process of spriting.
First I sketch out the character and the pose I want, then I copy-paste it into a new document and shrink it down but also keep the original open for reference. Then I make the sprite over the shrunken down drawing.
>>343001318
undertale?!
>>343001745
i just doodle something, see if it looks good, make a dousin copies of it next to eachother and just start fucking with it until i get what i want
>>343001828
fuck you wow
i'm going back to agdg ;_;
>>343001143
That fucker get a big af head tho
>>343001289
undertale is probably a lot more sophisticated than anything you've shat out anon
>>343001745IdoitbutIfeelashamedfordoingit.
>>342997757
Just fucking admit you're making a furshit game instead of making lame justifications
>>342998829
I await this game so hard.
>>343001289
>Shits on gamemaker
>Recomends unity
anon pls
>>342986170
>>342986170
>>342986170
You don't really need good graphix if the rest is really good.
>>343001891
> dousin
Its dozen dude.
Sorry not sorry
>>343001921
i don't think the head is as big as you think it is anon
>>342986170
I plan to make all the art assets myself and hire a programmer later to make it all work
>tfw no programmerbro
>>342990749
looksfun
but holy shit that art is an eyesore
>>342994580
>can code
>cant do any art except basic 3d models and rigging
>pixelart looks like absolute dogshit
>no ideas at all except that I want to make a game about fetishes one day
At least you're not me and can actually make something
>>342997209
>our
you didn't do anything. At all. i should know.
>>342999325
Great, you've managed to draw a ball consistent with its distance away from the viewer. This is important. What's also important is what >>342999949 said here.
Timing and Spacing is a fundamental skill that's easy enough to apply. I've taken some frames out of the bounce and lengthened the air time in order to create more of an impact.
https://vimeo.com/93206523
This is a great video about the principles of animation
>>342998829
Fuck yeah
I sorta know how to 3D model but I can't fucking program to save my life, I've been trying to follow Unity tutorials to make a basic roll a ball game and I can't even get a player movement script to work.
There's probably no hope of me ever being able to make a game. Should I just kill myself?
>>343002289
you can't claim her for yourself anon, it's not fair for the rest of the freaks who frequent the threads
>no coding knowledge
>no artistic capability
>lots of ideas without any real clue as to practicality, etc.
I'm the idea guy and that makes me fucking ill
>>342998829
i never knew i wanted something like this. A Hack and slash jet set radio. Fucking yes
>>343001745
Sounds weird. I start with the sprite directly at the desired resolution. Doing that shit you said especially when it comes to animation would take a long as fuck time.
>>343002496
Have you actually tried to make a game? Even just some shitty little platformer in GameMaker?
>>342998829
Holy shit it's something I would actually play. Don't let me down anon.
>>343002054
this guy is literally making the same project like I am
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>342999325
I give you zero because it's sort of shaped like a ball and you clearly have never seen a ball bounce before
I can code, I'm just not used to coding "games".
I've been trying my hand at some things in GameMaker Studio and though its got its own language I understand the syntax. The problem I have is remembering to account for all the different things the player might try and do, and how to get an object to act exactly like I want it.
Am I screwing myself by using GameMaker studio? All I want to do is make a simple 2D (zelda-like) game to learn the ropes with.
Any good tutorials out there that cover basic game making concepts?
this friendly looking golem holds your gfshandwat do
>>342997276
>>342997757
Are you the same person doing the Anubis game?
>>342998829
this looks trill as fuck. reminds me of a couple of sport/violence arena type games i played growing up in the 90s but cannot for the life of me remember the names of.
>>343002492
How about i just cut you off your supply.
no more fetishes unless you admit you don't own her.
>>343002806
Well then, good luck to you I guess.make a dickgirl mode pls
>>342990472
>Extra damage from behind
>Turn based face eachother kinda battle
how does that work?
>>343003038
She is all of ours not one persons.
>>343002863
>balls rest height isn't 0
>ball goes below the surface
>>343000120
>my argument is that your argument is bait
fair play anon
>>342989465
Red and Blue oni is standard in most Asian legends.
>>342986170
Reporting in.
I don't want to hire any fucking faggots though. I want to do it all myself. I'm gonna look at it and think it's not as good as it could be, but I'm not experienced enough at either to do the game justice yet.
The only part I don't want to do myself isthe fucking coding. I fucking hate coding.
>>343002297
Thanks, that video is neat as fuck.
>>343002863
Just you wait, my next ball is going to blow your mind. Now I know what timing and spacing is.
>>343002652
making a game in GameMaker and saying you can make a game is like using a stencil and claiming you can draw
>>343003149
Well tough guy. good luck, but im not gonna post any more iterations of her or my project till a week or so at most, but can you really hold off not touching yourself for a whole week anon?
I took a break from programming to work on my spritework. Not sure which legs look better and if I should outline the sash or not.
Bottom is the old.
>>343003160
It's obviously measured from the centre of the ball and the red line is the ball's centre at rest.
>>343003321
>IS NOT A GAME UNLESS YOU KNOW HOW TO PROGRAM!! >=[
>>343003038
how about you just fucking watermark her then bitch
>>343003321
Why though
>>343003235
Will anon do the thing?
Will the ball bounce real good and nice?
Will Frieza blow up Namek?
Find out next time, on Dragon Ball Z!
>>343003149
if it's just one person making the sprites, it's just theirs
>>343003382
evrytiem
>>343003448
>>343003463
Not him, but because you're using a template/generator and probably default or bought assets and basically not "making" the game, you're putting pre-made shit together.
It's like saying you're an architect because you built a house out of legos, from a "House building" lego set.
>>343003330
But anonthese threads are biweekly at most
>>343003448
game maker still requires rudimentary programming knowledge unlike rpgmaker or udk
>>343002956
retrieve arms from chest
>>343002903
>Am I screwing myself by using GameMaker studio?
No, more often than not people shit on GM for the wrong reasons. It's an easier environment to develop the early soft skills you need to make a game, being able to use better tools isn't worth much if you don't know where to use them.
The problem with it is that it's restrictive and using it too long, especially on simple mode, can lead to bad habits when moving on to better development environments.
Can you give an example of something you weren't accounting for?
>>343002054
holy fuck that imageWhen's it coming out?
>>343003635
To be fair, making anything that isn't complete shit default assets (like half of the ones on Steam these days) in RPGMaker DOES require Ruby, or with MV, Javascript, knowledge to make anything remotely interesting.
>>343003603
these thread have been every day for the past week.
>>343003593
What if i use my own assets, what then fucko?
>>343003593
>probably
>making assumptions and basing your posts on them
>Can make art.
>Can make writing.
>Can make game rules.
>Can't code for shit.
It wouldn't be a problem if I had a coder friend to help me out.
Otherwise, I'll just stick with Game Books and Table-Top.
I got a game concept I want to run by and see how much tweaking it would need for it to be fun.
Its a platformer except it's gimmick with Power Ups are songs. The way the song system works is sort of like how Time Powers in Blinx work except you have to get the right notes to play it. You get notes ranging from A to G and certain songs need a certain amount of notes to play each song.
For example, one song is played in notes E-F-A-F-C in rising, so it would require 1 E, 2 F, 1 A, and 1 C note to use the ability.
You get random notes from enemies but depending on the stage they will most likely drop the notes you need to solve the puzzles in that stages. Another thing I planned on adding were full charge items that when used give you all the notes needed for a song, those items being one use.
Also each song has combat capabilities as well so you don't only need them for puzzles.
What do you think?
My problem with making music is that I can't think of any melodies that aren't extremely similar to a song I've already heard.
>>343003093
Fuck if I know. Didn't really put that much thought into it.
Xenoblades combat would not translate to a final Fantasy styled system at all because so much of it has to do with positioning.
If anything something like live a live would be a better translation... shit think i might have to redo this
When looking at people's indie game art doesn't anyone else start feeling extremely *extremely* jealous?
Should I see a doctor?
>>343003330
Link to your blog site or something please!!
>>343003810
now there's a lie if i've ever heard one
if they were daily they'd be /vg/ fodder by now
If you stuck at music and art what are you even designing?
That's like saying you want to write a book, but suck at writing
>>343003817
>>343003819
Then that'd be a good thing and congrats on being one of the few to actually care. But 8 times out of 10 it's a lazy default tileset/asset flip.
>>343003878
can make writing
>>343003969
There is a /vg/ thread.
>>343003878
Coding is the easiest out of those to learn, because it doesn't require any finesse or muscle memory, it just has to WORK.
If you beat your head against a game engine long enough, you'll manage to get functional code. The same can't be said for good art or music.
>>342991814 >>342992056 >>342992093 >>342992205 >>342992425 >>342992481 >>342993301 >>342993505 >>342995256
He's not wrong you know
>>343003754
Someone on /g/ was posting this but got b&, he's probably still working on it though.
I guess we will all hear about it when/ifit's done.
>>343003983
That's usually a cry for help for a coder to come in and make a team.
But that would usually require a concept both of them can agree on, and both are too selfish to come to terms if it's a game for game's sake.
If money was involved, things would be different. Then you're willing to sacrifice your vision for the sake of actually doing the game and getting dosh.
>>343003561
you have to consider what kind of backgrounds your character will be standing against, and if the sash will end up melting in the background colors.
I'd say you'll most likely have to outline it.
>>343003603
but ive seen the thread 3 days in a row. idk who's posting my work, but any newer content will be held of till i get a screen shot of you saying " That sexy waifu does not belong to me"
>>342991814
4chan isn't your personal trashcan
>>342993337
>>342993110
>>342992729
>>342992194
>implying there's anything wrong with tracing to begin with
>>343003715
There was a tutorial I was doing a while back where this guy was making a shmup kind of game where you would fire at the enemy and it would shrink.
I tried to do it on my own before watching him do it and sure the enemy shrank, but then it grew again because the size variable was going into the negative. What you have to do is delete the instance of the object when the size reaches zero. I understand but it caught me off guard at the time.
I think a lot of my confusion was coming from the timing of things, like the movement speed and rate of fire. The formulas needed to determine that isn't easy to just look at and figure out right away. He used a formula to make the objects work like they should between 30 and 60 fps. I guess I'm not good enough at math to come up with it on my own.
>>343003878
Just learn and practice. It's not easy, but it isn't insurmountable.
>>343004146
>The same can't be said for good...music
Speak for yourself. I make song by bashing my head on the keyboard until they work.No I won't post them.
I want to make a cyberpunk 2d platformer and have the skills in Unity to do everything except art. I cant even make primitive animations
WHAT DO I DO
>>342993986
Anon that loli did nothing to you so why you broke her legs?
>>343004358
but there is, you're not learning anything by it. I would say using a picture as a reference to look at is learning.
>>343004707
Hire an artist so you can make a proof of concept and get the funding to hire enough art for the full game or use placeholders to convince one to join you
>tfw you're game idea is incompatible with pixelart garbage so you'd have to hire both programmers and artists
>>343004801
>you're not learning anything by tracing
Wrong.
Designing enemies for my shite arse rpg
On a rating of 1 to fuck you how annoying would enemies that eat all your MP then spend a turn cackling before fleeing would be.
If you kill them you get your MP back
>>343004667
Even if they sound good to YOU, music is still subjective. Coding is objective, meaning that it's still easier to do in a way that everyone acknowledges as good enough.
>>343004927
So money spiders? I'd be pretty fucking mad any time one showed up to specifically targeting it first every time so its gimmick would only work once
>>343004801
t.not an artist
>>343004265
Just checked with my tiles and it definitely gets drowned in lighter colors. I'll outline it in a darker blue and edit the shape a bit. Any other critique, anon? I need it.
Thanks.
>>343004309
Is it weird seeing people posting your content?
>>342997757
babyfurs should be locked up like the pedophiles they are
>>343004927
slightly less annoying than an enemy in my game that randomly takes or gives money every turn
>>343004707
>2d platformer
Why though. The age of platformers is over.
>>343005112
no. I don't care. I just like messing with that anon. He can do whatever he wants. as anyone should be entitled to but isnt privileged enough. yes.
>>343004358
As far as I've read and heard from actual artists, it hinders your progress at actually learning to draw.
You learn how to draw specific poses and stuff, but you don't learn the construction process itself, so if you ever need to place something somewhere else or change the perspective, chances are you'll face a lot of problems.
>>343004737
Well, I'm pretty bad at perspective and anatomy, as well as everything else, to be honest. Can you point me out as to what's wrong with her legs?
>>343004848
Lowpoly art is an option if your game needs to be 3D. Either that, or just textureless cel-shaded models.
Case in point: Gang Beasts was originally intended to have fully-modeled stereotypical gangsters as characters, but the artist first used featureless solid-color humanoid blobs as placeholders. People REALLY liked the placeholders.
>>343005171
So do you draw this normally and then convert the lines to single-pixel lines?
>>343005215
says who, some fag on /v/?
>can't code
>can't draw
>writing is not very developed or creative
>even my ideas aren't the best
>still wanna make games, but my only skills right now are cooking
suicide soon fellow stalker
>>343004707
>2d platformer
Enjoy the $759 you'll get from Kickstarter
>>342995730
Get some bob on that torso/head, it looks robotic.
Unless hes in a wind tunnel, tone down the hair and cape movement.
Also, it looks like there's a one frame "blip" with the left arm and right leg. In fact, you may want to redo the left arm entirely to match up with the right... Or do you rub your dick while you walk irl?
>>343005171
>Mosquito bite nipples on huge boobs
>>343005301
While you can't use tracing to learn every aspect, it does help you learn important aspects.
>>343005310
A first person survival-oriented online game intended to portray realistic stone age survival and society does not do well with cell-shaded graphics.
>>343005281
Oh I see dude, I'm glad to see you posting though. Keep up the work.
>>343005390
Yes, it's just drawn in binary lines
>>343005479
>tone down on the hair and cape movement
>>343005301
Tracing helps you see what the other artist did to make it work if that makes a single bit of sense
>>342999999
>>343005415
Just look at the sea of platformers coming out in steam that nobody buys. It's the same as people being fucking tired with zombies.
>>343005551
Have you ever made a game before? Because a first-person online survival game with crafting elements seems like quite a large project for one's first time.
>>343004591
It just sounds like something you get used to with time. It's part of those soft skills I mentioned where eventually you will just be able to logically lay out each action that an object will take (shrink then disappear) and then apply your knowledge of the toolset (delete the instance).
Basic movement should be quite simple, I assume you have than down and are looking at a more complicated example with acceleration or deceleration. If you're struggling with one method, try another instead and play about with it via trial and error until you have a better understanding of how it works. All the code doesn't have to be 100% original but it's important that you understand it so that you can later build on it if you want.
>>343005551
This is some idea guy tier scoping.
>>343005789
>Dubs aside from 00 on /v/
Are you being retarded on purpose anon?
>>343005652
>drawn in binary lines
I don't know what that means.
>>343005507
Not the one who drew it but I don't like slightly big areolas.
How do you know your game-play mechanics are unattainable?
You know what I'm talking about, as in, that point where you've crammed so much stuff in it that you've essentially reached past depth and into complexity?
And when do you realize that you've never actually thought about a game, but a story/setting or whatever?
First applies to me, as in I've found out that the my game was much more fun early on in development before I added one-too many RPG Mechanics and skills.
Second applies to my artist and writer friend, who has an exceedingly rich story, with vibrant characters and what not, but there's no way as hell that we can cram all that in the game we are making.
What do?
It's like, the world and story demands a complex, rich world and game-play, but the game-play is more fun an attainable without all those superfluous mechanics.
>>343005424
Start with something simple. Look up tutorials on coding and try coding something simple, like snake or tetris. You can still make a lot of games even without any or just minimalistic drawing skills. Just look at Dorf fort.
>>343005510
>>343005782
I guess so, but don't you also learn their own mistakes if you lack the knowledge?
>>343005989
>I've found out that the my game was much more fun early on in development before I added one-too many RPG Mechanics and skills
>What do?
Rip them out.
In what way does the story DEMAND complex mechanics?
>>343005831
Obviously not mr Sakurai-kun, i'm 100% the ideas guy and I already have pages of concept ideas written out but it's just a pipedream unless I get rich/good at manipulating kickstarter.
Hell everything I'm planning is based around VR compatability as well, I've got images of guys sitting in there living room eating pizza while their tribe throws a feast in-game. I want to go full early-WoW guilds levels of group play.
>>343006083
You can also trace your own art just to get more muscle memory
>>343005840
Thanks.
For reference, here's the tutorial I'm following.
https://youtu.be/DN6dZWXUEzA?list=PLUtKzyIe0aB2HjpmBhnsHpK7ig0z7ohWw
>>343005171
draw your own, mature, non-organic (thinking of the face here) version of Mega-Man
>>343006083
mmm but you're missing a fundamental part and it's that I just don't feel like putting in the work, I'm not sure if I am depressed, I'm working a job on my spare time but I just can't force myself to spend hours practicing skills that are integral for video games. anyway rate my comic edit
>>343005390
yeah
>>343005507
small nips are kawaii, senpai
>>343006168
Maybe start with something currently possible?
I'm not saying you'll never make the game you want to, but you're in the same position as a person who wants to be a NASCAR driver and doesn't even have his license yet.
Maybe start by making games that you don't particularly want to make, but are physically able to? Like coding Tetris or Snake or something?
Just looking at the mountaintop isn't going to get you any closer to it. You have to actually start climbing if you're serious about ever getting there.
>>342993505
>>343005989
>that point where you've crammed so much stuff in it that you've essentially reached past depth and into complexity?
It's really hard to see at what point you need to cut instead of add. I can see working without a deadline easily leading to feature creep and losing what's important or fun.
>And when do you realize that you've never actually thought about a game, but a story/setting or whatever?
Try to make a usecase of a scenario that would happen in the game. A very detailed one. If you can't describe the gameplay with it then you have on a concept of story and setting.
>>343006414
Only on DFT and maybe even regular but they don't work on xbox hueg boobs desu senpai
>>343005939
It's a brush setting for digital art that draws in single-pixel lines that are either 100% black or 100% white, it's a common way to draw pixel art as well as general digital lineart. PlagueofGripes does a lot of stuff in binary these days, for example.
>>343002956
It's really cute, Anon.
>>342986170
>Top is digusting
>Bottom makes you a pedo
>>343006432
what's the point of rehashing shit that already exists?
completely redundant concepts are the easiest way to lose all motivation after starting, there's simply no point
have an idea you want to see made, or do something else.
>>343006476
N-NANI?
You saved one of the screenshots!
But why would you post it, badly stretched too?!
Yes, I know tilesets are bad too. They're probably the only thing i'll study more and remake myself.
>>343006168
>I already have pages of concept ideas written out but it's just a pipedream
And as long as you have zero experience in actual game dev those ideas are probably going to be total shit because you don't understand the things under the hood.
>get good at manipulating kickstarter
Can't be done. Funding ideas of games phase is gone. The only way you get funding is if you ask for just a bit with an almost finished project that looks good, has media appeal and goes viral.
>>343005989
I've been in that situation and simply put the project to the side. I'd rather make a simple game to get my standings and save more engrossing stories until I'm able to make something that's worthy of one.
That being said, make sure your alternate project is something you'll be passionate about as well, else you'll constantly want to go back.
No one here can make games. Isn't it time you all just accept that you will always be broke nobodies?
It's hard since I'm more of the creative type than the technical.
>>343006851
>what's the point of rehashing shit that already exists?
Because it gives you EXPERIENCE. The point is to put you on a path such that you might one day be capable of making the game you ACTUALLY want to make. To get there, you have to make less difficult games that you're capable of making, even if you don't particularly want to make them.
Lamenting your inability to make the game you want to make is not going to make you any more able to make it.
>>343006432
I already know my skillset isn't applicable to the programming or very likely the art side of things, at most I can bring an obsessive level of detail about historical accuracy.
>>343007104
I'm not broke, but I know I'm a nobody.Doesn't stop me from making my loli exhibitionism hgame.
>>343007104
Risk of Rain was made by a guy from here in the span of a couple months and it made millions.
>>343007104
You can stop projecting any time senpai
>>343007232
>Risk of Rain was made by a guy from here
And you're not him.
>>343007269
Calling it projecting doesn't make it wrong.
>>343007232
>made millions
Sold millions, maybe. And RoR is super simple
>>343007104
Damn you must lead a sad life
>>343007269
is it really projecting if the generalization isn't really wrong
>>343007104
>t. crab mentality faggot
>>343007345
>>343007417
hint: i was not talking about the making a game part
>>343007232
>in the span of a couple months
It took like a year for him to make it.
>>343007130
>I already know my skillset isn't applicable to the programming
Which is why you LEARN, dingus! Add new skills to your skillset!
If you manage to create a basic tech demo for you game, you might be able to attract an artist. If you have an artist to make your tech demo look good, you might be able to get people to support you via a Kickstarter.
Saying "Hey guys I have this really great IDEA for a game!" is 100% guaranteed to NEVER result in the game getting made.
There are no teams of programmers and artists who think to themselves "Well, now that we're fully capable on our own of creating a game, let's go find someone and pay him to tell us what to do!"
I could make a CoC game so easily. I just can't do art.
>>343007383
And you gonna say a simple game is literally not a game?
>>342986170
>>/vg/
>>/agdg/
>>343007554
>There are no teams of programmers and artists who think to themselves "Well, now that we're fully capable on our own of creating a game, let's go find someone and pay him to tell us what to do!"
No shit, if this ever ends up being made it's gonna be by virtue of me either meeting people who are just developing those skills or else by my funding it. Learning to program pong is not going to help me.
>>343007383
>Sold millions, maybe
It sold over 1,3m copies and I'm fairly sure it has never been under 2$ in price.
>>342991634
Anyone have this image with readable text?
>>343007121
Will making a visual novel give you the "experience" to make a 3D multiplayer?
start with what you actually want to make is the point, what you don't know isn't grinded with arbitrary challenges like cloning tetris, when you can piece together anything you want with time and google
>>343007781
>Doesn't know how to cross link
lmaoing @ your life senpai
>>343007878
get some glasses
>>343007708
No, learn to reading comprehension
>>343007591
Which is why you have to make a mechanically more interesting game to make it worth the worse graphics. Don't make a porn game though because there graphics are all that counts.
>>342989010
This one is for me.
>>343007850
I'm pretty sure I got it dirt cheap from a Humble Bundle.
>>343007591
So make the game with shit art. People can stomach bad art if the gameplay is good.
You're just making excuses.
You probably couldn't even make it.
>>343007850
>he thinks devs keep the majority of sales revenue as profit
>>343007834
>Learning to program pong is not going to help me.
It is going to help you understand what goes into making a game. Right now you have no fucking idea what it is you're even dreaming about.
>>343008097
>Corruption of Champions
>good gameplay
Naww
>>343007834
You seem to have ignored the middle of my post.
Learning to program Pong will be the first step in you eventually becoming good enough at writing code to slap together a functional demo of your basic game mechanics with duct tape and glue. It will look like shit and probably not play too well, but it will be a PRODUCT that you can show people. Instead of just being an idea guy, you can say "Hey, I've got this tech demo, but it's art really sucks. Do any artists want to help me out?" You're much more likely to have people join you if you have something, ANYTHING, to actually show them. Once your tech demo gets non-garbage art, you can use it to make people want what your game promises to provide. The existence of the tech demo is evidence to them that you have the ability to deliver a final product. Then you can hire ACTUAL programmers with the money people give you via Kickstarter to make the game.
That's how learning to program Pong will help you.
>>343007187
>>343007232
>>343007269
>>343007384
>>343007438
>All these insecure replies from useless idea guys
I think I found me a new source of (You)s
>>343006169
O, I see.
>>343006320
But why is the mouse hitting the laptop out of the birds wings?
>>343006320I don't get it
>>343007834
>Learning to program pong is not going to help me
Have fun never making your game. Turns out you need to actually practice making game to make a game, who knew?
>>343008250
>only pretending to be retarded
>>343007891
>Will making a visual novel give you the "experience" to make a 3D multiplayer?
It will give you quite a lot of basic programming experience that can be applied across the board, yes.
And the point is to make small games first. Games that would be easy with a limited skillset, then move on to more difficult ones. You can't exactly have a "small and easy-to-make" 3D open-world multiplayer game.
>>343008184
Understanding the gameplay mechanics I'd want in this hypothetical game is really not that complex. Obviously I don't know what goes into programming it, but I know that nothing I want is particularly complex. It's basically a refined version of games like Minecraft or Ark, which started off as cobbled together crap held together by string.
>>343007834
>nuh uh I don't wanna learn, I'll sit here waiting for people to notice me
Have fun never getting your game made then.
>>343007232
This explains the fucking threads.
>>343008423
That meme you keep using, I don't think it means what you think it means
>>343008418
My goal isn't to be the person who makes the game, so good post there brother
I have a general idea for something resembling backstory and lore, but nothing really concrete for a plot.
Here's a dumb dungeon idea I wrote up.
>>343008551
>use memes
>get meme replies
>act surprised while using more memes
>read, read and re-read code
>can't find a single thing wrong
>doesn't work
is this just gods way of saying I should give up or what?
>>343008467
>the gameplay mechanics I'd want in this hypothetical game is really not that complex
My point being that you are in no way capable of knowing what is complex and what isn't because you don't have any understanding of what goes on under the hood. Nothing is as simple as you think it is.
A while back these threads inspired me to try pixel art. Pic related is 1st day compared to 2nd day.
Haven't done much since, but I want to mess around with actual poses shading and anti aliasing more.
>>343008512
>I'll sit here waiting for people to notice me
I love this idea that everyone itt has nothing else going on their lives but moping around waiting for money to make vidya
>>343007591
This graphics phase is dumb imo desu senpai
Need interesting concepts instead of /realistic/ games with boring guns and a handful of maps
>>343007104
>No one here is willing to make games.
ftfy
>>343008775
Most compilers/game engines will give you a particular file/line number where the error is located if they run into an error.
>>343007104
>I can't do it so nobody can!
>>343008806
Lower res versions look better because on the higher res ones you're doing practically nothing with the added pixels.
>>343008782
>you are in no way capable of knowing what is complex and what isn't
Oh yeah it's physically impossible to code a first person game with survival mechanics, that's why it's never been done before. Better spend the next 2 years learning C so I can revolutionize programming.
>>343008806
>egg wizard
I love it.
>>343008775
restart
>>343008654
>nothing really concrete for a plot
Good.
It's much better to put an interesting world together with interesting mechanics and see which way a plot could go than it is to try to make an established plot influence the others.
>>343008806
I feel like onl ythe first got better.
The rest have a bunch of unnecessary things.
>>343008897
it's not an error, it just isn't hevaing as expected
>>343009039
The more you post the more it proves how utterly fucking clueless you are about the subject.
>>343008467
>but I know that nothing I want is particularly complex
>you'll never be this retarded
And you're still missing his entire point. You get programming experience to make a demo to show off. No one wants to work on a game that is all idea and no substance. Especially if their "leader" has no understanding of how difficult good coding actually is.
Like, ask yourself this: If someone was interested in working on your game right now, what could you show them? A demo? Art? Music? Spectacular writing? Your answer right now is jackshit, and no one will want to work for a literal ideas guy when everyone is an ideas guys. You need to have something definite, and anon is suggesting you start with programming. But even if you can't do that, MAKE something concrete instead of abstract ideas.
>>343009039
hahaha you're such a fucking idiot, go make something and look back at how fucking stupid you are
>>343009170
Write some code that you can use for debugging. Like a text output somewhere on the screen that you can use to know, for example, what the values of certain variables are at various points in the code. That'll help you find the exact piece of the code that's not behaving as you want it to.
>>342998829
looks like vanquish+dmc+jet set radio
I'll fucking pay money for it anon, please finish it.
>>343008806
if you're adding more pixels, add shading to it.
>>343009236
>No one wants to work on a game that is all idea and no substance.
Where is this idea that I'm trying to get this game made coming from?
It's just an idea I'm cultivating and that if I ever do get into game design through something like Unity, I'd maybe try to do some prototype work for. I'm not actively trying to publish a videogame, I have other things in my life that keep me busy and paid.
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