>decisions in 3
saintly vs sociopathic
>decisions in new vegas
clashing political ideologies, no black or white
>decions in 4
YES!
NV is best 3d fallout.
>>342311559
Now tell me something I already didn't know
new vegas thread?
someone make a tremors area on the world map somewhere
its only like 3 houses and a shop
>that one NPC that you always kill
>>342313107
If it's so simple why haven't you done it yet anon-kun?
>>342313713
i dont know how
>>342313851
All you gotta do is download the GECK and follow the tutorial
>>342313148
>Drumpf
fuck off
>>342311559
>Liking the New Cuckfornia Republic
>>342313573
WHY
WHY YOU BASTARD WHY
>>342314521
>liking any side
The Leave Mojave ending might never have been made but I still do it every time. Just get to Mojave Outpost and quit and move on to the next character
>>342311559
Who has the worst voice acting? I say Lee Oliver. I hate the way he runs his words together, it's unnatural.
Man fuck NCR, I hate the now california why would I help the new california
>>342316523
The guy that did 1/3 of the Male VA. Not Liam'OB or Yuri.
>>342317034
I actually liked most of those VAs and couldn't tell the difference, so I'll stick up for him. Maybe I just have shit ears, but his characters sounded fine enough to me. I didn't even realize he did both Motor-Runner and Swank
>>342316523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSqpEWtmVdU
Driver Nephi. His VA might have done some otherwise half decent work with other NPCs but he really shit the bed when they got him to do Nephi. And that's not even in comparison to Violet and Cook Cook, who have some of the best voice work from the generic NPC VAs in the whole game
>>342315289
>Just quitting
>Not taking the prize for yourself
Benny left it all for you, you were the chosen one
>>342316523
Fucking yosuke, every where I go I hear him and he doesn't try to not be yosuke
>>342319080
>wanting personal responsibility
Something will inevitably go wrong to ruin your comfortable way of life
Maybe some people just want enough to retire on, instead of being Wasteland God for the rest of their lives
>>342316523
Sunny really fucking irks me for some reason
>>342319971
Fuck man, push all that responsibility on to your robot army and sit back in retirement on top of the lucky 38.
>>342313573
>saying malcom holmes isn't the most killed npc to date
are you stupid to just give up 6 star bottlecaps?
>>342311559
>decisions in new vegas
>clashing political ideologies, no black or white
oh fuck off
>>342320602
Last playthrough I had a lighting mod that pretty much made shit pitch black where it should be and this motherfucker found me in pitch black sewers and made me shit myself three times over. Just trying to sneak along and listen for anything up ahead and then "Hello there. It's good to see a friendly face." Fucking Christ.
>>342320602
>not oliver swanick
he is guarenteed to die by a pack of rad scorpions if you dont kill him
I played fallout 4 as my first fallout game. heard all the good things about fallout 3 and new vegas so I actually went and bought them, and holy fuck is it clunky to play. every single time I want to loot something, the game pauses. FOR EVERY SINGLE THING. kill 5 people and you'll spend 10 minute looting them.
fallout 4 is miles ahead. I don't give a fuck if I have less options in a conversation, the actual GAMEPLAY is so much better.
>>342320602
They're just not worth the effort
>>342320838
him and victor are able to teleport for some reason
>>342320926
0/100.00
>>342311559
>no black or white
Thread already tainted by an Obsidrone
>>342320980
>single shotgun
>as he turns his back you stealth one shot him
"it's not worth the effort"
are you stupid? it's not worth the effort trying to find every single star cap in the mojave, or taking so much sunset soda just to get a chance at it.
big iron
>>342321149
>go into lorerape sasparilla plant
>hack festus
>never needed the star caps
>>342320926
I know this is bait, but on a serious note 3/NV's looting system was really clunky, makes me wonder how 4 does it so seamlessly.
God damn I wish Fo4 wasn't such a disaster, the sad part about Fo4 is you can directly tell that it wasn't meant to be this bad, Bethesda put a serious amount of effort into the game but they put all their effort into things people hate.
>>342321612
imagine if everything didnt have the [EMPTY]
imagine if you didnt telepathically didnt know
>>342321612
>I know this is bait, but
no butts, you're enabling him.
>>342321793
>come across [empty] container
>check anyway
>>342322038
In Fo3/NV you might pass over something that doesn't say empty without knowing it
In Fo4 you always see the container's contents
>>342322862
>In Fo4 you always see the container's contents
mod added that to new vegas.
>>342323146
I know and it's great
>>342323282
have you had any problems with it?
>>342323365
I haven't tried it yet, I'm gonna try it in a little while when I hook up my modding system to NV
>>342322862
it will say empty
dumbass
I keep getting the urge to go back but there's so much else i have to do.
>>342324316
>having a life
The biggest problem with Caesar's Memegion is that they are unfinished and your only real exposure to them is them murdering people, even if they were criminals and degenerates.
>>342320602
>not the guy who comes running at you saying he won the lottery
That's it, I'm going to kill everyone in the mojave, I'm going to do it with random guns I find that I won't repair and will throw away when they're broken, what should my name be?
Oh and is there any mod that adds all of Fallout 3's items to New Vegas's world space? I really want some things from Fo3 but I don't want to have Fo3 in my game, along with that it makes loading times ass
>>342324985
You can get every answer from anything in this game about legion, some people just refuse to read a lot dialogs and want to shoot things. No wonder they saw only generic bad guys. It tells you a lot, just doesn't show much.
>Wanna start a new run
>Don't want to go through the trouble of getting the mods I want together and making them all work right
>>342325859
Removed the repair system in 4 is such a huge mistake imo. I hate it in games like Oblivion but games with guns made way more sense.
>>342325940
Key word "tells", in NV the only gameplay you have with them is them acting like generic bad guys
>>342325859
>Uncle Sam
>>342326057
dunno, i thought about it and all the repair system did in the other games was that you either carried around more of the same gun or used different guns until you could repair.
think they shouldn't have made repairing guns so trivial, like just walking up to somebody and buying them to get it back to full health broke the system in a way.
in 4 even with the ammo perks, i constantly ran out of ammo and had to use different guns because of it, until i got a settler as a merchant, then that problem was gone too.
>>342326057
In a way it's a good thing, but I wouldn't have removed it entirely, I would have reworked it.
Instead of your weapon breaking flat out, only parts of it break, the same part on another weapon may break faster or slower depending on what the weapon is and how it uses that part, weapons would only become unusable if a core piece to using it became broken.
Like if you block with a fireaxe, the shaft will become damaged and will be unusable when it breaks, but if the edge breaks first you can still use it as a weapon though much less effective.
Same thing would go for armor and clothing
>>342325859
Name yourself The Saint, and send those sinners to Hell.
>>342326057
I like the idea of guns being able to jam and shit but after the first quarter of the game you will never not have pristine weapons so it becomes kinda pointless.
>>342326074
>them acting like generic bad guys
there's a nuance that you're missing, the game is trying not to hold your hand too much.
the game starts you up and lets you go, you can do anything and if you miss something like not caring to talk to people and get to know the place, then that's on you, not the game.
>>342325859
only one i can think of off the bat is project nevada, it adds the chinese assault rifle from fo3 along with a few others (lincoln's repeater, chinese pistol, infiltrator, etc).
it also adds cyberware and sprinting.
>>342313148
low quality bait
>>342326549
good idea, guess it could be modded out if you made more parts of the gun into mods, so the base of the gun is the core and everything else is a mod but i don't think mods have health ingame.
>mfw Caesar reading off all the things I've done to fuck with him
>>342311559
>No black and white
Nigger the Legion is arguably more "black" than the fucking enclave in 3.
>>342326417
>>342326549
>>342326604
But getting rid of skills in general was bad I didn't mind it in Skrim because I played an archer fucker but Fallout 4 just feels wrong without skills.
I'm playing through 4 to give it a chance and fuck me I enjoy the autism minecraft because who runs barter town shit but otherwise I'm not as immersed like 3&NV.
I like 3 and yes I know that makes me a faggot but it felt better than 4.
Nv is GOAT.
>>342327025
But they did nothing wrong.
So did you guystake all the gold bars?I did
>>342320602
Couldnt you just pickpocket them? I don't wanna kill a dude
i kinda miss doing quests and getting special perks like one called cyborg i remember
>>342326549
that sounds good on paper but would probably end up being even more tedious than the current system
i like the way Dying Light did it: guns don't degrade but melee weapons do and have a certain amount of times you can repair them before they break for good
>>342327095
>no "I was bored" option
Fallout really needs "zero fucks" options, imagine the horror ceaser would have felt if you told him that, you didn't care about him or anything you were doing.
You just did it because you were bored and screwing him over was good entertainment.
>>342327025
Wrong, the legion is very understandable once you actually listen to them.
>>342327107
If you understand the skill system in how it was implemented in 3, it was basically a threshold.
Like nothing happens if you have 24points into a skill but if you have 25 BOOM something happens.
4 basically removed the threshold of having points that didn't do jack shit because they were alittle from the threshold.
The problem is that some skills in 3 gave you small % bonuses that the specials also did but the skill supplemented those more.
I think that sort of perk only system in 4 could work very well, the perks they added are boring and repetitive and that system would require alot more diversity and just alot more perks.
Dunno if i'm the only one but from a modders perspective i don't like the perk chart, i don't see custom mods fit well into it at all.
>>342326074
Pretty sure every legion move has it's purpose and was justified in the end. Not just because they can, like generic bad guys do.
I guess most of the people get upset by the fact that NCR soldiers gets fucked really hard, but if you take your time and think about why those soldiers fight in some unnecessary expansion campaign, instead of defending your own home, you will understand what is the real problem and game show you that like hundreds of times and even literally tells you.
>>342327095
Is this everything? I really wanna get it all done before meeting him
>>342327569
>an egotistical cunt needed a cult of personality built around him.
very understandable actually
>play fallout 4
>get bored when I try to roleplay but keep getting reminded of new vegas doing shit better
>go play new vegas
>roleplay as a die hard powder ganger
>do the quest line
>kill all the good springs low lifes
>go to primm to get info on NCR attacking the prison
>im dressed as a powder ganger so people get mad at me
>cant get the info
>kill an NCR guy in the shroud of night
>steal his clothes
>dress up as NCR
>talk to the people i need for info whilst pretending to be an NCR ranger
>go back to eddie with info
>kill all the rangers raiding the prison
>tough hard fought battle, but i did it. We won
I forgot how good the reputation and clothes system this game has.
>>342328132
Kill vulpes inculta and I believe drop the radioactive barrels at cottonwood
>>342328202
Do you even know what the Legion want with New Vegas?
>>342328318
To give edgy faggots an excuse to feel tough and then shit their pants the moment they see a vertibird.
>>342320718
>>342321143
Admittedly the scales are tipped by having lots of Legion content cut, but it's not black and white.
Every NCR quest shows how inept and corrupt they are without your assistance.
Legion has history on their side, you need a merciless warlord to unite a country before getting bogged down in bureaucracy.
>>342328472
So you're just arguing for the sake of arguing without actually knowing anything about the subject.
>>342328768
Ok fine I will take it seriously like you.
They want it for the dam and to expand their turf.
>>342328318
Nothing because the Legion doesn't want or need Vegas or the Mojave.
Caesar wants it. And Caesar's reasoning is incredibly flawed.
>>342327975
I'm only in the beginning hours of 4 and do they have shit where I can repair bots for Big Town and shit like that I'm going to play 4 and have fun regardless because a friend got it for me and I respect my friend enough to play it. Friday said he'd give me his copy of Morrowind too. What to expect with that?
>>342327107
>I didn't mind it in Skrim
You never played Skyrim
But other than that, I had an idea the other day for a better skill system in Fallout.
Instead of having 1-100 points in a skill when every skill check is 25/50/75/100, every skill has a total of 5 points that can be put into it, you get a select number of points to put into any of those skills at character creation, you never get to decide those skills again.
Skills will work similar to how they did before, some dialog checks will show up requiring 1-5 in a skill, and weapon damage/handling will be tied to SPECIAL instead, but you'll get some new benefit to being spec'd into a weapon skill.
Perks are tied to skills and SPECIAL again, but every perk is tied to a rank of a skill(s), multiple perks can share the same skill ranks, whatever you chose at creation is what perks you're going to have for the rest of the game.
Every level you pick a perk, every 2 levels you pick a SPECIAL to put a point into
>>342329138
There's a quest revolving around robots, it's kinda funny but it bugged out for me several times and i had to repeat it one too many times.
Otherwise i don't recall you being able to repair robots like that, there's a dlc that adds robot customization but it doesn't look goo at all.
I have Morrowind too and have never launched it, have seen the combat system and it looks like hot garbage, the dialogue and quest system is bad(not the quests but the system).
Morroblivion should fix those issues and that might be the right call, dunno how well the mods for actual Morrowind do to fix those systems, you might want to check out nexus for that before starting a game up, some of the retextures and shaders look great.
>>342329147
>You never played Skyrim
Skyrim is just perks, there are no skills.
>>342329147
>Never played Skyrim
I'm pretty sure I did anon it used almost the same system as 4 apart from using a skill and leveling it up.
Do you mean I didn't play it by my combat style? I usually go stealth archer and I had fun as fuck.
Can a kind anon post the link with the list of essential mods?
>>342329757
I meant using your skills for goals it's 3 am and I'm watching Ladyhawke for first time so I'm trying to pay attention.
>NV is best
FUCK YOU FAGG-
>3d fallout.
Ok.
>>342330068
What list of essential mods?
>>342330146
Getting that angry over a random person's opinion is autistic
>>342329147
What you've described is just the same special system, just another one ontop of it.
>>342330068
>>342330205
There aren't any, use whatever the fuck you want
There's no 'essential' mods.
>>342330139
oh that, em... not really, no, not that i can think of.
>>342317878
you could talk to those guys?
>>342330068
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PXoYBg2bdanMbqN1VsCTcFnqAUl4pww307VgVugGi7c/edit?pli=1#
This is definitive, but whatever.
>That artist quit doing Fallout Fanart because of F4's shit and it's shitty DLC.
Feels bad.
>>342330376
Yeah, that's the one, thanks m8
>>342330205
Enboost
some say YUP but i never found it doing much
>>342330714
ENBoost doesn't do shit
A 4gb loader effectively does the same thing, but better.
>>342319971
Then leave it all to House.He will make Mojave great again.
>>342330376
>That artist quit doing Fallout Fanart because of F4's shit and it's shitty DLC.
who's the artist?
that's a bit extreme, people who didn't go and mod fallout 4, didn't quit modding, they just went back and modded the old games.
>>342330068
Is wasteland 2 worth playing? I got directors cut free so I'll have fun regardless.
>>342330957
>A 4gb loader effectively does the same thing, but better.
nope, Enboost is not 4GB patch, it improves the way the game runs, it's alot smother and alot more constant.
Have you tried it on skyrim?
>>342320602
where does he go after he talks to you anyways?
You want some weapon schematics? I can show you some fucking weapon schematics! You want a superheated Saturnite Power Fist? I can hook that shit up
>>342331148
Mojave Outpost, then he despawns
>>342331067
can you play coop in that?
>>342331167
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/b/b1/OWBMuggyHowManyCoffeeMugs.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20130721171946
>>342331167
awww, he's so cute
>>342331114
You don't even know what it does
It moves objects loaded into memory into a seperate process, to clear memory from the game
With 4GB loader the ram limitations are set so high that you won't be able to go past them
With NVAC, memory-related crashes are rare
I don't play Skyrim, and I don't want to. ENBoost may do something there, but it doesn't do much (if anything) in NV.
>>342328632
Legion doesn't have history on their side, Ceasar just pieced together tid bits of every totalitarian culture he could come across because there's no accurate historical records for those times in the fallout universe. They are basically just RP'ing and pretending to serve a cause that they completely don't even understand. That's the greatest part about the Legion, everything they do is contradictory and their beliefs are based on falsehoods. Yet they are completely right.
>>342331254
go away brat
>>342313573SMELL THAT AIR
>>342324789
i'm rememe'ing this, i'll post result if i get done before thread is kill.because nobody else wants to meme with me ,_,
>>342330982
A lot of people say House is the best for the Courier because he'll have you set for life but truth is you'll still be his fucking errand boy.
>>342331527
What's to stop you killing him if you get sick of his shit?
>>342331384
>everything they do is contradictory and their beliefs are based on falsehoods
You keep talking out of your ass, the legion has set goals, they wouldn't have come to New Vegas without a plan.
>>342331527
He wouldn't need you anymore because of the upgraded robot army.
>>342331186
I doubt it, I thought it was sp only.
>>342331527
>>342331603
>>342331621
House values loyalty, he wouldn't kill you if you obeyed him, instead he would let you lose and if you cross him, he would kill you.
>>342331610
Of course they have goals, they are an organization, it's just their central belief system isn't concrete because they are drawing from multiple sources, which is why I said they don't even understand what they stand for. Because it's just a amalgamation of ideas.
>>342331247
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/2/25/OWBToasterYouShouldBeAfraid.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20130720142636
Muggy and the Toaster are the best sink machines.
>>342331703
>don't even understand what they stand for
Except they do, look at Nipton.
>>342331527
His ending slide straight up says he hooks you up for life because of your loyalty
And if you're evil, out of fear
>>342331384
>because there's no accurate historical records for those times in the fallout universe
Except the Legion is based entirely around Roman history books Edward Sallow found. Any inaccuracies in the Legion's portrayal of Roman culture is deliberate because recreating Rome isn't what he intended to do.
His whole fascination with Caesar comes from reading a copy of Commentarii de Bello Gallico. The books aren't even that rare, Arcade knows enough Latin and Roman history to know Caesar's full of shit
>>342331829
It's referenced multiple times that the Ceasar's legion that they are emulating isn't 100% accurate because they have multiple belief systems within one train of thought. They think they believe in it, but they don't understand it because it's just a mesh of ideas for a totalitarian rule.
>>342331920
I interpreted it as having a job with a lot of benefits, but you still do stuff to help carry out the rest of his plans.
>tfw no post-game mission to colonize space
>>342331969
No, they believe in what Caesar has taught them. Where Caesar got the ideas is irrelevant, they follow what he says and to them it's a single, coherent ideology.
>>342331969
>emulating isn't 100% accurate
I don't see how this devalues if they believe in something or not.
If someone believes in something, it doesn't matter how accurate that might be to an outside party.
Besides the Legion isn't emulating rome 100% they're taking ideas and using them to create an identity for themselves. Sorta like the Enclave is.
>>342316523
I hate Ulysses's VA because of it's gritty drawling sound and because he rarely speaks using statements. It's grating to my ears.
>>342332849
That's a writing issue
He's much better as the Biological Research Station in OWB
>>342332849
>>342333052
never had a problem with Ulysses
>>342333052
OWB has some top tier VA man
>>342333052
Yeah I agree. Also thought he was pretty cool after you let him live and talk to him regarding Hoover Dam. He's alright when he's not being an angry nigger.
>>342333296
Only bad DLC VA isLight Switches/Stealth Suit
>>342333486
I wish the Stealth Suit had a more robotic voice like the Think Tank personalities.
>>342333486
wouldn't say the VA is the bad part more that the scripting makes it speak too often and it should have had many more lines it could throw out.
>>342333589
You'd just need to apply a filter to the voice files
>>342317878
>Goodbye
>Get fucked.
>>342324789
>>342331479
Done.Yes i suck at drawing, i'm slow.I wanted more New Vegas memes, so i transformed it into one.
>>342320602
>He comes up to me
>ignore most of his dialogue, but hear something about treasure and immediately get intrigued, thinking hes going to sell me a map
>Skip through the remaining dialogue and shoot him, loot him, and then carry on upset that there was no map to treasure
wew what a fucking disappointment that ended up being
>>342334286
His hair doesn't work so well in a new tab
>>342311559
> played 1,2, tactics, 3 and NV when each came out
> 1 and 3 are the only good ones
Sorry 17 year old nv players, you dont understand the series
>>342321034
They can swap bodies, House probably tucked a few away along the U-Turn just in case
>>342334417
i'll let it be, i'll rememe another time
>>342334564
>leaving a job half assed
>>342334436
9you0
>>342334950
It wasn't half assed, i am satisfied with the hair. If you think you can do better, go ahead and make your own rememes.
I wish there was an option to give Caesar a really bad noogie on that bald head of his.
>>342334436
Wew lad
>>342335329
i want topethis head
>>342329821
>>342329985
Late replies because my computer crashed, I tried to start it back up a couple times but something in the software is damaged beyond repair I guess, I'm on a different one right now
But getting back on topic
Skills are in skyrim and they work the same as they always have in TES, when you go to your "perks screen" as you might call it, you'll notice that every perk is on a tree named something, that tree has an experience bar. That tree is a skill and they work the same way they always have, just now you have bonuses you can choose for those skills, leveling up your one-handed without picking any of the perks does give you more one-handed damage, and so on with other skills.
But of course neither of you would ever know any of this because neither of you have ever played skyrim or any elder scrolls game for that matter, don't try to bullshit me on this subject because I have been playing these games for years and know far more about them than you ever will from reading posts on /v/. Especially beginner shit like this.
>>342335529
>>342330234
Well it's more of a redesigned skill system to make the game less of a "you'll become master of everything eventually" and more of a "here's what you are, you can only become better at what you can do"
I figure maybe there would be a perk that would allow you to put a single point into a skill you don't have
>>342335614
>oh shit he knows more about the game than I do! Maybe if I call it bait he'll lose all credibility
Nope my post is still nothing but fact, skyrim has skills and their functionality has never changed.
I want more FO content with OWB level technology.
>>342336016
The Institute?
They even had the same ass-backwards thinking.
>>342335737
>I figure maybe there would be a perk that would allow you to put a single point into a skill you don't have
there is that perk in 3 that lets you put up to 10point(i think) into whatever specials you like, it ranks up as you do it.
>"you'll become master of everything eventually"
that is really the game though, it's a casual experience and i guess that's why it's like that.
not like 3/NV didn't have the same problem once you added the levels from the DLCs into the mix.
Isn't that skyrim too though? it has a cap on 100 but with the legendary system you could go beyond that? right?
>>342336115
No, the institute and the think tank are widely different.
>>342336342
without legendary the level cap is 81 since that's how far getting 100 in every skill will get you
legendary just resets the skill to 15 so you can keep leveling, no other benefit
>>342320602
Motherfucker, Joe Cobb is about to fuck up the town and you wanna talk to me now?!
>no armor piercing 12.7mm round
reeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>342336342
>there is that perk in 3 that lets you put up to 10point(i think) into whatever specials you like, it ranks up as you do it.
This is different though, unlike SPECIAL these don't change your stats, and it would only allow the selection of skills you don't have.
>that is really the game though, it's a casual experience and i guess that's why it's like that.
Right and with this reworked skill system that wouldn't be the case anymore, the only thing you can gain are stats, if you start the game as a master of guns but have no knowledge of medicine, you'll never learn medicine unless you pick the perk that lets you put a point in it and even then it will only be a basic knowledge.
>>342336751
but that's not how it would logically work, if you don't know about something, trying to learn it will make you better at it, that's in a sense how the skyrim system works, you do something and you get better at it over time.
>>342336893
Well it's not a perfect idea, it obviously can be improved upon, but I believe I've started something fantastic here.
>>342329821
there are skills that you level up like in Morrowind and Oblivion and 100 alchemy will give you better results than 15 alchemy even without perks, it's just that perks give a much greater, more significant boost, so it seems the skill level does nothing but unlock perks
>>342336745
That's what you get for using garbage
>>342337138
i think a hybrid system would be better, one that combines the fallout 3 system with skyrim's progressive learning system.
You set your specials at the start of the game, skills are put in normally but instead of getting skill points when you level up you get them by doing the skill thing more.
If you shot with guns more you'll get better at that skill, if you use medicine more you'll get better at that skill and so on.
That way you'll have a start system that respects roleplaying and a progressive system that you'll have to invest in before you can go 100 into everything.
You could put a hard cap on it and say, okay, the max amount of points distributed across all skills is 1000(as an example), that means that if you level up other skills, you'll get worse at something else to compensate.
>>342312960
Grammar.
>>342337034
>impying I don't do explosives too
MFC grenadesblow. sniping with thump-thump is where it's at.
>>342337406
I wouldn't go that far but I don't see the big deal about survivalist's rifle after having tried it out for some time now
>>342327305
>letting go
What's even the karma system for.
First time playing and I'm finding it holds no relevance to anything
Did they just forget to disable it from the engine
>>342325859
>That's it, I'm going to kill everyone in the mojave, I'm going to do it with random guns I find that I won't repair and will throw away when they're broken, what should my name be?
Ruckus Roadstar
>>342337470
>I wouldn't go that far but I don't see the big deal about survivalist's rifle after having tried it out for some time now
It's just mostly sentimental value as the gun belonged Randall Clark, and the design reflects the history the gun has been through.
>>342337682
I can see that, it is fun to use even if there are more effective options, I like the sight and the mismatched wood
>>342337578
Cass quits if you have Evil or below Karma and you can fight Lanius one on one with you have Good Karma
That's about it, really
>>342337434
you spelled it wrong
>>342327305
>side with him because it's an option
>it's actually a game over
>forced to not side with him
Fuck Obsidian
>>342337782
Don't forget your Level 50 Perk and a few very minor tweaks to the ending.
>>342337578
they avoided doing much with the karma system, because it's a horrible system.
>>342337828
it was a good choice.
>>342337578
There's a couple bits of dialog about it
Of top of my head, there's a character in Old World Blues that will comment on it
>>342337828
Well yeah, you just effortlessly conquer the Mojave. Not much to say there.
>>342329004
>Caesar wants it. And Caesar's reasoning is incredibly flawed.
It has some merit. The Mojave has infrastructure and some amount of civilization that The Legion's territory lacks. The Legion won't survive Caesar's death as it is. It needs to be changed. This requires that The Legion take over the Mojave and then become a settled army ruling over a semi-civilized culture.
>>342337578
I'm hoping Bethesda brings it back in the next Fallout and tries to make it hold a lot of power in the game, like if you walk into a town having slaughtered thousands of innocent people with survivors who got away to report your crimes, you'll have a bounty on your head/you'll be attacked on sight
>slaughter half the wasteland
>bounty is in the millions
>people no longer attack you on sight because your presence strikes fear into them
>the only ones who dare attack you anymore are armies of mercenaries that seem to grow and become better equipped with each encounter
That's my dream karma system
>>342337938
>>342337972
>it's okay when Obsidian does it!
Fuck off, I should be allowed to effortlessly conquer the Mojave, not be forced to side against him.
This is actually worse than Bethesda because the option is dangled in front of me without it actually being a functional option.
>>342329147
This sucks. You suck.
>>342338073
that's what the reputation system is for not karma.
this is how karma works:
>you steal something
>everybody magically knows
>you kill someone
>everybody magically knows
>you can somebody fat on the other side of the planet
>everybody magically knows
the karma system is broken from the get go, the reputation system is what you want, you can take disguises and kill people and nobody will know that it was you.
>>342338152
bitch please, either it appeared in the game like that or not at all.
>>342338258
I choose not at all because as is it's a half assed option that tells you to go fuck yourself instead of doing something new.
>>342338013
Thing is, his grand plan of synthesis only applies to conquering NCR. The Mojave and Vegas are just the stepping stone for that, he wants Vegas to be his new capital but by itself it isn't much of a conquest
He has places like Vegas back in Arizona. Two Sun, for one. The only thing the Mojave really lacks is self sufficient tribal societies for him to absorb so he's going to have to spend several more years recovering from his victory before marching on NCR, giving them the time to sort their shit out and maybe put up a proper fight this time without Kimball and Oliver hamstringing their efforts
>>342337412
Before Fallout 4 came out, when we found out that skills weren't really in it, this is how I thought it would be.
I no longer have any optimism.
>>342338353
I think you'll absolutely love Fallout 4 then, you'll never get any of these "options" or "choices" it'll all be streamlined, just for you.
>>342338427
well.... how you like my idea senpai?
>>342337578
it's basically tradition at this point
FO1 and 2 had it and it had little effect
>>342338496
>using Fallout 4 as a scapegoat
NV is on trial here, not Fo4
>you'll never get any of these "options" or "choices" it'll all be streamlined, just for you.
There are no options or choices in the end of dead money, everything leads to killing Elijah
You're kinda preaching to the choir there, OP.
The only people on /v/ who say that NV isn't the best are memesters trying to stir up shit.
>>342311559
posting my list of mods that i use
http://pastebin.com/nBaNgySn
>>342338539
Essentially perfect.
That's why when I thought Fallout 4 would just be a better NV with your system, I planned to buy it.
I'm just glad I had a friend who pre-ordered it on PS4 and PC and we played through it together before I found out how shit it was.
>>342338674
>There are no options or choices in the end of dead money, everything leads to killing Elijah
There are plenty of choices, but they mostly involve the side characters.
That, and choosing to get the worst ending by reading through all of the terminal in the vault and getting locked inside forever.
>>342338713
you have way too many ESSENTIAL mods that i would call niche and optional.
>gecko have a swim animation
oh.
>>342338782
This will never not make me furious.
I'd kill Pete Hines if I could get away with it.
>>342338784
>Essentially perfect.
>>342338817
my reason for using mods is to improve the vanilla game without interfering as much as possible
>>342338782
I wonder if he or Todd know how often this reply gets brought up.
>>342338990
>streaming a game a little early is being a villain
i hate the cuck generation
>>342337823
U wrung :(
>>342338990
This is just as bad.
>oh no people are finding out our game is fucking shit
>better call on our army of drones to shut them down
What a fucking cunt.
It shouldn't be an issue because retailers will always sell games a little early if they can get away with it, but because they KNEW their game was shit, nope, gotta shut them down so people still give us billions for a game they know little about.
>>342338784
>There are plenty of choices, but they mostly involve the side characters.
None of those affect the ending, you always kills Elijah
>That, and the second game over that forces you to go back and kill Elijah
You don't get a choice, you are going to kill Elijah whether you like it or not, you are not allowed to choose.
>>342338817
>all those 2k armor mods that would probably interfere with my lewd mods
at least I've got dat ass
>>342311559
New vegas babbies are hilarious
>>342339396
On the contrary I find them incredibly annoying
>>342339306
>You don't get a choice, you are going to kill Elijah whether you like it or not, you are not allowed to choose.
He's the villain. You can either kill him, or you can let him kill himself.
I think he's the only main villain in the game that dies no matter what.
>>342339306
>None of those affect the ending
They do, just not part of the ending with Elijah.
>You don't get a choice, you are going to kill Elijah whether you like it or not, you are not allowed to choose
I didn't say you don't have to kill Elijah.
Despite having to kill Elijah, or sneaking past to leave him there, you still do have a lot of ending choice involving side characters.
>>342339396
>>342339460
Nice samefag, samefag.
>>342321034
What rifle is that? modded i presume
>>342339493
Master and Horrigan would have words with you
>>342339546
We're talking about New Vegas here.
I was going to compare his fate to the Master either way.
>>342338782
Sunset Sarsaparilla, son.
>It's okay when Obsidian does it
>>342311559
>it justwontwork
>>342339727
what are you talking about
>>342339831
IT RUINS THE LORE YOU FUCKING OBSIDRONE
>>342339996
Not that anon, but could you at least, like, explain yourself?
>>342340052
Don't reply to him, he has edged more than once in this thread already.
>>342339493
And that's EXACTLY the problem, this is fucking FALLOUT, you're suppose to be able to be the bad guy, this is shit that EVERYONE hates in Fallout 4.
You are literally defending the same thing that is wrong with Fallout 4
>I think he's the only main villain in the game that dies no matter what.
because they realized how big of a mistake it was
>>342339520
>They do, just not part of the ending with Elijah.
slideshow after the DLC ends =/= the ending
What you do with the other characters does not affect the ending in any way at all, you don't even get to take them with you
>>342339520
>Nice samefag, samefag.
don't scream samefag when you see something you don't like
>>342339996
is this one of those "i am not interested in screencaps. come back when you have a real argument and real proof" bait responses?
>>342339727
The point isn't that obsidian doesn't make mistakes, everyone does, the point is when Pete Hines (and Bethesda to a degree) is confronted with a mistake instead of humbling himself he doubles down. "lol who cares you fucking nerd" kind of attitude.
Who /NVB/ here?
>>342340052
not him, but sunset sarsaparilla feels insanely forced to the point of it feeling like it only exists because Obsidian wanted to leave their mark on the Fallout series, they didn't try to make it more believable at all it was just "well here's this new drink that competes with nuka-cola because we said so"
If they had put more effort into it I don't think anyone would have had a problem with it
>>342338990
How the fuck is this the fault of the players.
>go to retail store
>buy game
>stream game
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM
If anyone's to blame are the retailers, the people buying the game did nothing wrong. I fucking hate these people. I can understand his desire for control, what I can't fathom are the people "haha you go girl those people are villains, based authoritarians please have sex with my wife".
>>342340130
Nigger thats like saying "Well the game ends so that makes every choice obselete!!!"
So what the fuck are you saying?
>>342340386
that could be a fair point if we were to delve deeper into it but more to the point i don't see what that has to do with pete hines being a douchebag over what are perfectly reasonable questions
>>342340130
>you're suppose to be able to be the bad guy
You can though, the moment you're in the Sierra Madre, you can systematically hunt down and kill the rest of your companions, Kill Elijah and take all the gold for yourself.
>>342340386
>sunset sarsaparilla feels insanely forced
it doesn't.
>>342339521
looks like awp model ripped from CS:GO
>>342338782
I never actually properly read the text on that screenshot. Man, that's phenomenally bad writing even if it had been the correct drugs.
Stop fucking playing 3D Fallouts, even your beloved NV is a pile of shit.
>>342340827
>DELETE THIS
>>342340630
Fucking retard insulting 90% of his fan base.
>>342340630
>could have just said "oh shit you're right lmao my bad, i'll fix it in notepad and send it off to the patch people tomorrow"
>instead he calls his fans faggots and says they're retarded for liking his game
this is gaming in the 2010s
>>342340052
>>342340167
>>342340585
>>342340642
You guys are way too nice to this asshole, it'll be your undoing if you continue to just be nice when faced by people like him.
>>342340827
eat my dick faggot
>>342340509
NO, THAT IS NOT THE SAME AT ALL
Dead money has only ONE ending , it has two game overs that force you to go back and kill Elijah to get the real ending, there is ZERO choice you are forced into one choice and only one choice.
HOW IS THIS SO HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND? I Get that you're an Obsidrone but by now you should be screaming "bait" at me or trying to change the subject, you're just not getting what I'm telling you.
>>342340642
>Kill Elijah
That is NOT being the bad guy, that is being the hero, you are killing the bad guy instead of siding with him or taking the holograms for yourself.
You have NO CHOICE
>>342340891
>>342340893
you can tell he's backtracking and tries to brush it off with "noted." "enjoy the game."
>>342340898
i kill em with kindness anon
>>342340898
Shitposting begets more shitposting
Either you engage with what they're saying or ignore them.
Telling someone to fuck off will just send threads into a spiral of shitflinging and struggling to have the final word
>>342340898
If they play nice then there's still a chance that they might realize they're wrong, then next time they won't have to be wrong, they'll know the truth and will be on the winning side of the argument
>>342340980
>That is NOT being the bad guy, that is being the hero,
Bad guys aren't allowed to kill other bad guys? That's very black and white of you.
Did killing all the fiends matter when I also killed everyone on the strip.
>You have NO CHOICE
I choose to kill him, rather than let him kill himself.
>>342320602
You can easily pickpocket from him.
>>342340980
>>342340509
i think you two little queers should kiss and make up, and just accept the fact it's an unfortunate limitation in place due to the scope of the DLC
>>342340827
The first 2 fallouts aren't even that good. How is being forced to find a water chip better than being forced to find your dad or your son? And it treats joining the mutants as a game over and you can't even join the enclave. Even fallout 4 lets you join the institute.
>>342340997
>>342341027
>>342341063
>Sorrows
You guys need guidance.
>>342333486
I thought stealth suit was cute. It was nice to have someone to talk to in OWB.
>>342341140
EITHER WAY HE DIES, THIS IS NOT A CHOICE, THIS IS THE EXACT PROBLEM WITH FALLOUT 4
YOU. ARE. NOT. ALLOWED. TO. SIDE. WITH. ELIJAH.
OBSIDIAN HAS TOLD YOU "NO YOU PLAY IT OUR WAY OR NOT AT ALL"
>>342341304
>It was nice to have someone to talk to in OWB
>>342340893
I like power girls face, or whatever shes called
This thread is full of so many smoothskins. It disgusts me
>>342341475
Fucking spoiler that gored shit jesus
Is there a single place you can't get into if you kill everyone?
>>342341610
Maybe the safehouses
>>342341475
that was very interesting, i hated the repconn facility though i always have such a hard time finding the different floors.
>>342341651
think you can get the keys by killing somebody
>>342341610
think thesecuritron vault?
hmm... maybe i should do a kill everything run, i've never done one of those.
>>342341475
>tfw receding hairline by 22
who /ghouling/ here?
>>342340690
It is. It has never even been mentioned before and then suddenly we're expected to believe that Nuka Cola has had a rival that was actually widely used in the wasteland all this time?
>>342341858
me too, probably becausei don't go out muchdon't eat mucham mentally illbut i got video games so that's nice
>>342340891
"90%" of the fanbase doesn't give a shit either. They just wanna have fun in Todd's theme parks and have "emotional, relatable" storylines.
>>342341731
>>342341651
>>342341610
Safehouse keys are only generated at the time they're given to you so you can't pickpocket or loot them
The securitron vault, well, eventually after killing EVERYBODY you would have to pick up the platinum chip which is what gets you in there
What is a good SPECIAL build for a Donald Trump playthrough?
>>342341305
In one instance, a DLC, rather than the whole game.
>>342342076
Cha 10.
>>342342076
S- 5
P- 4
E- 4
C- 1
I- 1
A- 4
L- 18
i cant play this shit after playing fallout 4 and having actual functioning combat how did fallout 4 get everything wrong but combat and new vegas get everything right but combat?
>>342342076
mid cha, low int, low str, low end, low agt, high luck
>>342340980
That was my first post to you, and there are multiple endings there is one constant there and that is that Elijah dies or gets trapped. Because you can't have the cut ending slide where you side with him that was cut there is no choice?
>>342341997
It's genetic you dufus
All you can do is retard it, but there's no escaping it.
>>342342187
to be honest, the combat in 4 feels too good for an RPG
like, straight out of the vault you're an amazing marksman
>>342342187
>>342342442
>samefag fishing for (You)s
>>342341304
Stealth Suit is constantly touching your dick and balls and would touch the dick and balls of anyone else who put her on
She's a huge slut
>>342342613
Your character model wears underwear. Besides, I'm the only one who took her out of the DLC and kept wearing her.
>>342342708
Touching your dick and balls through clothing is still touching them
>>342323365
Different anon, the only problem I've had with it is when scrolling through, it sometimes puts me into third person. Other than that it's a fucking godsend.
I find House to be the best option in Vegas, mainly because he feeds you something about him wanting to send human-populated rockets into space and having that be actually achievable.
I know it's probably a case of him being either delusional or just straight up bullshitting the Courier, but it's a nice thing to strive for, especially after we've fucked up the world so hard.
After that it's probably NCR, Fallout 1 and 2 implied that for all of its problems, the western coast got transformed nicely under NCR's united banners.
And this is one thing that Vegas didn't get right, the cities in the original games actually looked nice, had grass, trees, normal looking buildings, clean streets, proper perimeters, etc. It's been hundreds of fucking years since the bombs fell, you'd think people would start cleaning up a bit.
I'd talk about Bethesda Fallouts but there's really no need, is there.
>>342342613
>>342342708
>>342342826
think nobody else ever wore her before you came
>>342343368
>him being either delusional or just straight up bullshitting the Courier
It's easy when you give yourself 100 years, have some foundation work already done and are fleecing an entire nation for everything they have
>>342343368
>him wanting to send human-populated rockets into space
except he won't, he wants to send himself into space and explore the galaxy, he couldn't give two fucks about people, aslong as they're useful to him.
>>342313573
Why doesn't he have a super mutant voice?
Man i love this mod. Fixes those ugly Power Armor colors.
Turns the light gray into dark gray.
>>342343928
Finally a mod as dark as my soul
dark gray helmet and dark green upper body
>>342343885
Because he's Michael Dorn
not really sure how the Brotherhood version of T-45d looks like because I haven't found one yet.
>>342343928
think in the first game it was shiny metallic and not dark grey
>>342344024
Why doesn't Michael Dorn have a super mutant voice
>>342343885
he is one of the Master's perfect supermutants
also Michael Dorn
>playing as mysterious sniper who just randomly shows up to help the NCR
>anti-mat rifle, 100 in guns, NCR armor w/ mask, NCR beret
>mfw
YOU'RE IN THE BULLET'S WAY
THE WHITE DEATH'S PREY
TIME TO DIIIIIIIIIIE
>>342344079
Because good Super Mutants don't sound like orcs
![2560x1920-fallout_video_game-16655[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/csCxfcg.jpg "2560x1920-fallout video game-16655[1]")
>>342343975
>>342344090
Boone plz
>>342340324
I would if the Boulder City Jail didn't fail to add itself to the map.
>>342344365
NVB2 is so bad but the last part of it's necessary for NVB3.
>Crash constantly while playing NVB2
>Gee I wonder why
>Uninstall it for NVB3 the second I find out you don't need it
>No crashes anymore
>>342344216
Boone just did fuck all in Novac.
>>342344562
Yeah, but he has the same sentiments as you. And I, when I had my playhtough. Equipping Boone with an anti-materiel and having one for yourself is absolutely game breaking, but obviously you also get ammunition problems.
>>342344759
>those glowing nipples
>>342344909
>glowing nipples
>not a depressed robot face
Should I cheat to get all the junk? I want to mod shit up but scrapping all those things is so fucking boring
>>342345058
I mean, in Fallout 4
>>342345030
i see it now
>>342345058
>>342345212
if you don't care about cheating, go for it.
>>342345058
Charge yourself quadruple price for normal things, 10x value for rarer shit
>>342345586
I do care about cheating, I would use a mod to give me all that stuff.
>>342345714
What?
>>342345918
Do what will be the most fun for you.
Whats the best sky/weather mod?
I've tried Nevada skies and URWL.
>>342341929
Sunset sarsaparilla is a small time softdrink company that only operated in the Mojave cause that is their only market.
>>342347253
>sarsaparilla
is a real drink too.
>>342341929
>what is local markets
Nobody is saying it's prevalent in all the wasteland
>>342341929
Todd, stop embarrassing yourself. Fallout 4 already sold call of duty tier numbers, what more do you want?
>>342338782
Would it be a realistic game if mutants and ghouls couldn't talk?
>>342349186
lol
>not siding with the legion every time
>>342311559
New Vegas didn't work on PS3, and I have friends (hence the ps3), so it can't be the best Fallout.
>>342311559
HATE DECISIONS
>>342349623
why would the Frumentarii want NCR money?
>>342325112
Out of the dozens of times I've started a new character I have never let Oliver survive his luckiest day
>>342311559
>NV is best 3d fallout.
>>342349687
The civilized men of the Legion need something to keep their arses clean.
>>342349687
makes for pretty good tinder
>tfw you didn't even think you'd play a second playthrough and you ended up doing it back to back with the first one
>tfw it dawns on you that you'll be doing a third back to back playthough as soon as this one ends
I mean I gotta do a legion run, I just have to. I want to do HH and kill Joshua. I want to RP a hyperintellectual who adores what Caesar is doing and sees normies as instruments of history to be bent to his/Caesars will. I gotta do it, it's quite obvious.
>>342338782
It's really hard to believe that Bethesda devs doesn't even played old fallout games. More like they're doing it on purpose. Just shitting on fallout lore and trying to make their own rules. Why? Even after fallout 3 criticism absolutely nothing change. Those people are evil.
>>342350893
> I want to RP a hyperintellectual who adores what Caesar is doing
you the real MVP
doing a raging retard playthrough right now. melee weapons with 10 strength and endurance and 1 intelligence. A lot more fun than i though it would be
>>342350893
Shame the Legion option is basically cut content.
No companions, barely any quests. It's a fucking shame, lads.
>>342351794
i dont mind the lack of legion companions since Raul and Veronica dont care what you do.
that being said, I wish the legion had more quests and locations/areas
>>342351659
What's your Luck set at?
I tend to enjoy tard playthroughs more with people being critted to death by my lucky retard flailing about.
>>342351659
Blade of the West drops pretty early on the Lonesome Road
>>342352027
I think i put it around 7 or 8 then went and grabbed the lucky shades and 8-ball
crits are nice and i can just gamble all my money problems away, luck op
>>342352193
been going with knock-knock/oh baby!, ill have to see if thats any good
BIG
I
G
>>342352358
Fucking a, man.
What faction(s), Legion?
>>342351160
Of course the PR monkey didn't play them.
>>342317878
Violet and Cook-Cook had some pretty good voice acting.
>>342352452
yea, legion seemed like a good fit
I can't find the one with BIG IRON BIG IRON BIG IRON with the group of anons talking, can someone post?
>>342352580
I never thought much about her, just being a Fiend to kill and all, but adding the option to talk to her back in, she's a real fucking qt.
>>342352583
Ave.
>>342352685
true to caesar
>>342352685
I really enjoyed Vault 3. It was neat just going around in there and to explore it. Wish it was more fleshed out, though.
>>342352678
This one?
>>342352920
Agreed, being able to join the Fiends as a smaller faction would have been neat, especially for drug fuelled maniac playthroughs.
>>342352934
Yea thanks.
Saved this from some random anon who recommended these mods, still haven't played NVon PC.
>>342343368
>you'd think people would start cleaning up a bit.
You can thank gamebryo for that.
Guys, help. Every time I make a NV character I am compelled to dress in the duster and only use the cowboy weapons. How do I break this habit?
>>342353110
get addicted to psycho so your gun sways all to shit, then do unarmed only. ballistic fist is bae
later thread
Be level 30 for Lonesome Road, or just go at it around 25-26?
>>342354178
only dlc you need decent level for is maybe OWB.
just dont be under like level 15 and you should be fine
>>342313573
I always sneak snipe a range for that sweet armor
>>342354356
Just finished DM with 2 saves and Dog/God and Christine kept talking about the other Courier and fighting him in the Divide so I figure I'll make that the next place I go
>>342355226
dead money best dlc, wish i could take dog with me
>>342355781
Couldn't wait to leave that shithole Sinclair made
![sunset_sarsaparilla_bottle_by_whatpayne-d34abz9[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2grBed5.jpg "sunset sarsaparilla bottle by whatpayne-d34abz9[1]")
what does Sarsaparilla taste like?
>>342356981
>Sarsaparilla
what did they mean by this?
>>342339521
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50805/?
>>342356981
Fucking root beer, you sheltered faggot.
Light Machine Gun
.45 Submachine Gun
Automatic Rifle
Which would be the most fun to build around?
>>342356981
Root Beer.
>>342359595
.45 SMG
wear a fancy suit and hat
>>342356981
..it tastes like sarsaparilla. It's a unique flavor, though like anons said it's close to root beer.
>>342320602
HELLO THERE
>>342313573
>SMELL THAT AIR!!!
>>342360062
No I don't want be more an Omerta
>>342353016
>JSawyer
Why does thsi keep getting recommended? It's garbage.
hanlon was wrong
>>342363547
You're garbage
>>342359595
LMG definitely.
Automatic Rifle is ass.
.45 Sub is good, do it after LMG.
>>342363702
>tfw sending as many Legion as I can to him with his Sequoia
>Kill that faggot Oliver with it too
>New Vegasfags literally make the same thread every day and discuss the exact same shit over and over again
>>342363547
What makes it garbage? It's much more challenging and rewarding than vanilla.
>>342364150
>Daily NV threads stay up all day and hit bump limit
>F3/4 threads die in 15 minutes with 15 posts
Shows which game is the most interesting
>>342338682
>memesters trying to stir up shit.
So, /v/ as a whole?
Anyone know the code to give yourself a LAER? Companion ate it as I left a casino
Also Ulysses is a fucking melodramatic faggot that deserved to die. At least Cass looks great in his duster.
>>342311559
>playing a game for the story
>not playing Fallout 4, the game with the best *GAMEPLAY*
eat a dick OP, you're everything wrong with this industry
Is Tabitha the Chris-chan of NPCs?
>>342364982
2/10
>>342342076
High Luck and Charisma.
Medium Endurance and Intelligence.
Low Agility and Perception.
Strength can go wherever.
>>342342271
>it's genetic dufus
Everybody knows this, but you can steadily increase/decrease the progress rate.
>unhealthy diet
>smoking
>lack of sleep
>overwashing
>being too vigorous with it e.g using straighteners or being too rough when you towel dry
Testosterone is the worst. If you are very hirsute, say goodbye to your head hair.
>>342311559
Correction: Fallout NV is the only good 3d fallout.
I would rather eat dog shit than play fallout 3 or 4
>>342363547
>he fell for the Project Nevada meme
>>342311559
>clashing political ideologies, no black or white
>imfuckingplying
Why do obsidianfags always try to pretend this game is just as mediocre as fallout 3 and other bethesda crap? This game is fucking garbage.
>>342366003
isn't*
>>342366157
>This game isn't fucking garbage
We know, that's why we have a thread about it!
>reading about NV development and cut content
didn't think I could hate Bethesda any more than I already did
>>342366368
>the metacritic fiasco
I'm still mad.
>>342366368
Development was butchered and rushed out in only 18 months, yet it's still far better than anything Bethesda ever made, even with 3 and 4 years for skyrim and F4, respectively.
>>342342613
I want to marry Stealth Suit!
yippppeeee yayyyyy
there'll be no wedding bells
for todayyyyyy
>>342366620
It took Obsidian 18 months to make a Fallout 3 mod and they still made it buggy as hell on release.
I really don't know what to think of this game, Fallout 4 as bad as it was, as shit as the writing was, and as broken as most of the stuff over that game is, still entertained me better than NV did
While i played through NV, it was around the time i met the Bombers that those long stretches of time where nothing happens and you are walking from conversation to conversation on the wasteland were incredibly boring, since i was siding with Yes Man i thought to myself that if i wanted to fix every faction's problems then that would mean walking from conversation to conversation again and helping people i really wasn't that interested in, but ignoring them would mean less combat, so i decided to eliminate all competition for New Vegas and eventually completed the game. I still felt empty and bored when i finished it
Fallout 4 is a bad game with a lot of problems but NV managed to bore me even more, between a boring game and a bad one i think i choose FO4, i guess i found something there that i didn't find in NV, i completed it so i could say i did at the end
Just asking anons what is it about this game that everyone likes so much
>>342367184
That's funny because Bethesda were entirely responsible for bug testing
Literally the one job they had and they still fucked it up
>>342367221
Some people aren't 12 year olds with ADD, who enjoy story and have an attention span longer than a grain of rice
>>342365962
Only thing I like about Project Nevada is the hot-keys, and the visor mode.
The re-balance can go to hell
>>342367435
>If you don't like the writing or long conversations then you are a child with ADD
Did you know that this is also a videogame?
Anons in this board complain that there is too much story and cutscenes going on lately and New Vegas has those moments all over the placae, but this game gets a free pass on that, i don't get it
Gotta hand it to Bethesda sometimes, they know what sells and what doesn't
>>342325859
Your name is Not Important
>>342354356
You can cheese the scorpians with the proton axe by just kiting them with it
>>342321034
>even the ghoul looks annoyed
>>342367317
I think Bethesda sabotaged new vegas once they figured out its the better game and they have to give obsidian their bonuses.
>>342320602
>"Not that I'd tell you if I did"
you motherfucker, you just had to say no. you didn't have to die.
>>342367718
>multiple choice dialogue
>compared to cutscenes
one requires player interaction, the other doesn't. one is optional, the other isn't.
>>342367718
I think you're missing the point. People piss and moan that there is too much "story" in game genres that don't need it, like an FPS. I play an FPS not for the story, but to shoot people.
An RPG is played for the story, and that's why we critique Bethesda's interpretations of Fallout as poor because they do a very poor job at telling a story and immersing people into the world.
>>342313573
I always kill Veronica Santangelo, in every single playtrough, sometimes i just kill her.
Sometimes i almost complete her dream of life of wearing a dress and then kill her
Sometimes i eat her
And sometimes i let the Ultra Luxe freaks eat her, i hate the white glove society but fuck that bitch.
>>342364992
Yes senpai
>>342327526
>Caesar gets annoyed because you have no ideological convictions (which is what he respects)
>NCR is fine with this because it means they can just keep you contracted and monitored
>House is also fine with this because he can bribe you with money
>Yes-Man is fine with this because he's fine with literally everything
>>342364982
>story interaction and participation isn't *GAMEPLAY*
>I just want to shoot things to loot things to craft things to shoot things to loot things to craft things to shoot things to loot things to craft things to shoot things to loot things to craft things
>>342368508
>Killing Felicia Day
You're doing God's work anon.
>>342364834
You could probably get a couple of em scattered around MT
>>342368759
Even though you are right, i still think FO4 has the best gameplay of the 3D games
It's one of the reasons why after playing both NV and FO4 i go back to FO4 more often because i feel like i have to sink a lot of time in NV to have fun when in FO4 i literally walk into a building and i got myself a firefight
Call it being a child with ADHD if you want, but it's how i get the most enjoyment out of my games
>>342367221
Interesting world, tons of choices, many unique factions, cool story and characters like Mr. House.
Discovering stuff like being able to side with Mortimer in the Ultra Luxe side quest is fun. Bethesda games feel so limited compared to this.
>>342367718
It's still far from being a walking sim or an interactive movie, it warrants being a video game. Also what >>342368352 said.
>>342368508
I killed her before I even knew who voiced her.
She has that "quirky" pixie girl stereotypical dialogue and a unique voice actor who sounds like she sat in several different laps to be relevant. This combined with her potato sack outfit and loyalty to the Brotherhood of Steel was four strikes too many.
>>342368540
>That hairline
>That dream of working on another Fallout game reduced to ashes
JUST
>>342369119
>FO4 has the best gameplay of the 3D games
It has the best shooting. Hooray.
NV literally has better game-play in every other way, dialogue, leveling, customization. Fuck NV even had it's own crafting system (that no-one used)
FO4 had the "best gameplay" of the series the same way Skyrim has the "best gameplay" of Elder Scrolls.
Dumbed down but entertaining combat and shit everything else.
>>342326028
>Rangers help im dying
everytime
>>342369538
I'd rather they never made a Fallout game ever again, Bethesda or Obsidian.
Bethesda can make Elder Scrolls and make it more dumbed down each time if they want and Chris and co. should just make their own shit.
>>342369119
Well as long as you dont argue that FO4 was better rpg then there is nothing wrong with your opinions man
>>342369119
I'd much rather play other games for action, it's not really what appeals to me about Fallout.
>>342327569
You're a fucking retard if you thought the Legion was any more than Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain tier.
>342311559
>decisions in new vegas
Pick the lesser evil
>>342369545
>It has the best shooting. Hooray.
Isn't modded NV also superior to 4? Haven't played 4 but it's what I see people say.
>>342369119
If you play F4 for the action, why not just play an FPS?
>>342369826
You have to use two, ">>" to reply to the OP's post.
One is just green text, anon.
NV is about an independent and strong-minded person, who must overthrow tyrants and decide the fate of a nation.
I can't relate to 3's main character because it's just some nerd with daddy issues, who embarks on a journey to find his dad for no reason. It's silly, it barely makes sense. Can't believe people consider this quality writing, sad.
>>342369963
F4's modding community has been poisoned by self entitled console shits. People have stopped making mods for the PC because they get flooded with messages saying "waah just upload it to the xbox please".
It doesn't help that these console modders steal other peoples work, make a dumbed down console version, then upload it without any original creators credit.
>>342369963
Yes, absolutely.
There is a mod called Project Nevada which adds customization difficulty and better shooting to New Vegas (Dynamic crosshair, improved hitboxes) and makes power armor better.
Literally no reason to play 4 about from the minecraft mode
I'm playing Fallout 1 for the first time.
Got to the 2nd town. Shady Sands or whatever.
I'm pretty bored of it, don't think I should continue, reckon I won't like it.
Should I continue?
>>342320602
Irving Cheng and his wife in Tenpenny Tower
It's become such a tradition that my band and I named a song "Kill Cheng" in honor of it.
>>342370185
>I'm pretty bored of it, don't think I should continue, reckon I won't like it.
How do you expect to enjoy a game if you get bored of it? Stop playing it.
Out of curiosity what's boring you? Is it the gameplay?
>>342369726
Oh fuck no, the only thing FO4 has in terms of RPG is "Do i help the Institute or destroy it?"
>>342369980
I still love the FO universe, i played 1, 2, NV and 4 so far. Even though 4 rapes the lore in several points i found it to be an above-average FPS. Though i haven't played much of those in a long time
>>342369963
Nah, you can make combat in NV better but you can't take away the fact that it runs on a shitty engine. It's like trying to polish a turd, it is still a turd (Disclaimer: I do not think NV's combat to be shit, i just coudn't think of a better example)
>>342370168
Pretty much this. Even though I don't like Project Nevada, if all you want is a better FPS and the ability to build your own settlement, simply download Project Nevada and Real Time Settler.
>>342319254
SMELL THAT AIR
>>342370185
Yes, continue, Fallout 1 is one of the best role-playing games of all time. It's slow moving and is more about problem solving and conversation than shooting.
Or if you have the same opinion as >>342369119 go play Fallout 4 I guess
is merging NV mods as easi as it is with Skyrim? The Uncut series takes so fucking many plugins spaces that I'd like to merge them.
>>342370359
>I still love the FO universe
>even though 4 rapes the lore
You don't love the universe. You don't get it. If you don't care for the story or any of the RPG factors, what part of the universe do you actually enjoy?
>>342370321
I don't get bored of all games.
I mainly don't like how the camera view is shitty.
I love New Vegas. And Fallout lore. But I don't know if it's worth putting up with that type of gameplay and bad graphics.
>>342330068
>>342330376
What do you guys think of the anon's Vanilla Plus mod-list?
>Vanilla Plus modlist
>http://pastebin.com/9W4PJsz2
>>342364982
>best *GAMEPLAY*
>literally Skyrim's port, complete with house building, leveled random bosses and randomly seeded enchanted weapons
>>342370525
Mod organizer has a merging tool which makes it easier than manually doing it, if that's what you mean.
>>342370695
>I mainly don't like how the camera view is shitty.
Oh man then you REALLY shouldn't keep playing. It is worth playing, but you'll just end up hating F1/2 if you have to force yourself.
The graphics are easy to push byif you actually like video gamesand I used to feel the same way but the style definitely grew on me.
I think it's charming as fuck now. The encounter with the master works because of the graphics and style.
>>342370764
Yeah, Seems like Merge Plugins standalone works fine and dandy with NV. Using this list as a base for my new game since I jumped the gun and upgraded to MO for a fresh install http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas
>>342369795
They're more of a 'ends justify the means' sort of evil.
>>342370742
Who thought it was a good idea to put fucking weapon enchantments into fallout?
>>342370742
Still sold better than NV ever did
Gotta hand it to the Toddster, he knows what sells and what doesn't
A lot of anons will probably get butthurt by this but if good story telling means "Let's interrupt the player for 10 minutes to tell our sob sad story about our life on the wasteland" that's not good storytelling. Every conversation in New Vegas feels like an info dump (I'm not saying the atrocious conversations in FO4 are good either)
Between a heavy focus on story and a heavy focus on gameplay (Wich by the way, both are possible to have, but none of the 3D games in the series manage to), Bethesda chose the latter, not only for FO4 but also for Skyrim, and guess what? They have the best gameplay and they are also the best selling games from their respective series
Call me normie fuck whatever if you want but there are simple reasons why FO4 ended up being way more popular than NV. And by the way, if you are going to argue about quality then don't bring mods to the table because in that case NV is a boring mess and you know it
>tfw put so many hours into FO4 that going back to NV is like transitioning from a decently working bicycle to one with a rusted chain, no brakes, flat tires, but has a decent novel strapped to the handlebars, which are slightly bent, and the bell doesn't quite work.
>new vegas
>no black and white
how delusional are you faggots, exactly?
>IT'S OKAY WHEN SAWYER DOES IT
>>342363760
I don't know why everyone hates the Automatic Rifle, it's got the highest single round damage of any fully automatic gun and on top of that a pretty high critical chance. The low rate of fire is mostly remedied by the weapon mod, durability isn't an issue with Jury Rigging just fix it up with Service Rifles or Assault Carbines. The spread? Quit trying to snipe with it
Played through NV on ps3, just got a beefy new computer, what mods should i install?
>>342371347
>played FO4 longer than ~20-30 hours
Fucking faggot.
>>342370185
If you're still bored by Junktown, drop it IMO.
>>342370231
I genuinely think I've heard that song, you from the UK?
>>342371317
>popularity fallacy
>Can't stand info in a fucking RPG
It's more popular because it's dumbed down and simple, the masses are asses
>>342371371
Why exactly ? Each faction has it reasons and moral sets for doing things, not just cardboard cut out GOOD/NEUTRAL/BAD
>>342371317
I actually love Skyrim and TES in general, but it's mechanics certainly don't belong in Fallout
>>342371613
Thanks.
>>342371591
Excuse me for enjoying the exploration / gunplay aspects of the game. It's nice to play something that doesn't feel like a stiff fucking plank sliding across rugged asphalt.
Daily reminder that the followers of the apocalypse have had the best waifus since day one
>>342371765
>exploration
cannot kek harder
NO ONE DARED TO ASK HIS BUSINESS NO ONE DARED TO MAKE A SLIP
>>342371660
because that's blatant cherrypicking
why does paradise falls fall under "durr evil" instead of "Slavers doing slaver things" while the legion gets a pass while being "deep politics" instead of just retardedly evil
>>342371317
We aren't debating whether or not it sold well.
People are idiots who don't know any better, and it doesn't help that you have equally stupid awards bodies and media outlets showering mediocrity with praise.
Somewhere along the lines, what should be an RPG was lost in translation. Todd knows this, which is why, alongside brand recognition and marketing, he sell sub par crap and still make a fortune. Look at Michael Bay. He was a short film director who discovered CGI and tits makes money, and now that's all he does.
>>342371806
>>342371591
>replies calling me a faggot
>proceeds to kek
>nothing worthwhile
There's only 1 real faggot here.
>>342371806
Fallout 4 might be shit, but exploring is one of the higher points of the game.
The only complaint I can give on that aspect is that locations in the city are too dense. Too often you'll find a raider camp literally right across the street from a mutant camp.
What kind of allegiance would Raiden have? And what would his SPECIAL look like?
>>342371958
Todd Howard is not an executive. Lay off the /v/ memes for awhile.
>>342371767
Image unrelated, Followers have been shit since day one. Just a bunch of wishy washy liberals out of place in a post apocalyptic setting, like American libs that go to Africa.
>>342371317
>it sold more and is more popular therefore it's better
Nah, and a new Fallout game was going to sell regardless. He also streamlined the franchise to shit to appeal to a wider audience which is why it's more popular. Also the reason why there's so much more emphasis on gameplay in 4 is because Todd and the rest of Bethesda can't write a story to save their life which is why it's literally the reverse of 3.
>>342371869
THE STRANGER AMONG THEM HAD A BIG IRON HIS HIP
>>342371926
>Blantant cherrypicking
no. Slavers and enclave in F3 are just blatant chaotic dumb, Ceaser's legion uses brutality as a way to keep order and restore civilisation
There's no deep philosophy behind the enclave or slavers in 3, maybe in 2 but not 3
>>342371767
That's not a Follower,
That's a member of the Unity church. A really hot one who had an actual voice but I don't remember what if anything she did that was significant. My last FAllout playthrough I was a retard so the only option I had with her was hitting on her.
>>342341929
This is common in the USA though. There are soft drinks like Mellow Yellow, Faygo, Mr. Pibb that are very popular in certain regions but are rarely seen elsewhere. I don't think it was ever stated in New Vegas that Sunset Sarsaparilla was a nation wide hit on the level of Nuka Cola.
>>342372102
If that is the only thing you are picking up on (which incidentally I have no idea where you cherrypicked that from), then your argument is clearly asinine.
>>342372272
Are New Vegas fans always this dumb?
I'm starting to think you guys are just tsundere for FO3 or something.
>>342372281
I thought she was undercover? Or is that a different church member?
>>342364150
no need to be buttmad Todd
>>342372281
She was a spy you silly fag.
Did you do that Legion run yet?
>>342372473
>dodging my argument and resorting to ad hominem
nah pham
>>342372134
>>342372281
>>342371767's not entirely wrong though. They have always had qt's.
>tfw Katja was my favorite companion because she was the only one decently trained in unarmed
If only they could be made to wear fucking armor...
>>342372081
Strength: 8
Agility: 10
Charisma: 1
Tag skills:
Melee
Medic
Science
>>342372340
This. It's just a West Coast thing, something which Bethesda cannot ascertain which is why they have to shove in Super Mutants, Centaurs, Caps, FEV, The Enclave etc onto the East Coast.
>>342371958
Todd acknowledges that things in FO4 didn't quite work out. It's even well known and pretty out there that one of Fallout 4's biggest flaws was that it seems to under go a huge identity crisis in that it can't decide whether it wants to be an RPG or an Action Shooter.
It's also (very lightly, I'd take this with a grain of salt) that the hiring they did last year was for TESVI, and that TESVI is going to be put on a new engine they're acquiring. Even they know their engine has crippling limitations, and having been built upon for the last decade and a half, is a jumbled fuck of a mess by now.
It would make a lot of sense if they finally decided to lay Gamebryo / Creation Engine to rest.
But like I said - it's a rumour.
>mfw Beshitsdrones
>>342371958
True, but that should show that there is something missing in games like NV, or Oblivion (Since the Oblivion vs. Skyrim argument has most of the same points)
I guess the most of the games in the RPG genre are not for me, i enjoyed games like DAO a lot wich had long conversations but they never felt like an info dump, it was a conversation about the current predictament you were in and your characters around you reacting to your decisions while still having good gameplay and action sequences
FO4's conversations and NV's conversations are actually quite similar, even though a lot of people will disagree with this.
Most of the stuff you can ask NPCs could fit well into the "More info" choice in FO4, but ultimately you decide "Yes i will help you" or "No, thank you/Maybe later". Though, there is more quality writing in NV
>>342372546
Yes. Why would I not. I had more trouble forcing myself to work for the NCR.
>>342372562
What argument?
>NO IT'S DEEP
Even Obsidian themselves admitted that the writing for the Legion was a wreck.
>>342372546
Haven't finished it, got to like level 12 on a melee run siding with the Legion with my 3 INT because only an idiot sides with the Legion. Siding with the Legion cuts you off from way more quests than it offers unless you make peace with NCR, otherwise you're either constantly getting shot at around New Vegas or you can't take to a quest giver because they're shooting at you. Also their loyalty rewards program sucks, the best thing they offer is Lucky Shades.
>>342372546
Of course.With Legion quest expansion mods though. They are a bit too bare bones in the vanilla game.
>>342372687
If obshitian is so great. Why didnt they buy the rights to the series?
>>342311559
>decisions in new vegas
>not black & white
new vegas's decisions were black & white they just weren't as extreme about it.
>>342372784
>What argument
Read my fucking early post
>Even Obsidian themselves admitted that the writing for the Legion was a wreck.
Not a mess, cut
Legion was about to be expanded greatly, then bethesda happened
what are some places i should explore that i might otherwise miss? thinking of finishing off my playthrough
>>342372828
nice b8 m8 I r8 8/8/8/8/8
>The Master's voice(s) and personality
>Frank's voice and indomitable personality
>Legate Lanius' voice and design
I guess Eden's voice was neat and his idea was okay but he was just the master 2.0.
Who did Fallout 4 have?
>>342372647
What about his allegiance? Would he be a Legion guy?
>>342372936
>Literally every bad aspect of your game
>I bet Bethesda did this!
ayyyyy
>>342372679
>Todd acknowledges that things in FO4 didn't quite work out. It's even well known and pretty out there that one of Fallout 4's biggest flaws was that it seems to under go a huge identity crisis in that it can't decide whether it wants to be an RPG or an Action Shooter.
Not doubting you, but could we have a sauce, please?
>>342372784
Sawyer said, rightly so, that they could have elaborated on the Legion but that is hardly the same as admitting the writing for the Legion was a wreck.
someone make a new thread
>>342372946
Don't forget to go to Jacobstown and visit your super mutant grandma
>>342372523
Fuck, really? How do you find that out, I had visited the church long after I found out from the Boneyard they were keeping an eye on it but she never gave me that option in dialogue, literally the only option my 4 INT gave me was was
>What kind of "services" do you offer?
>>342373016
>>Literally every bad aspect of your game
>I bet bethesda did this
They did, Bethesda is the one that did the fucking bug testing btw and cut the timeline for Basedsidian
>>342372980
Considering the ending of MGR where he disagrees with the senator I would say NCR, maybe House.
>>342373019
http://www.gamespot.com/videos/todd-howard-talks-modding-at-bethesda-e3-2016/2300-6432858/
About 6 minutes in he touches on things in Fallout 4.
Bethesda might be lazy developers, but Todd himself is very open to criticism and isn't one to just brush it off without consideration.
>>342373175
I knew /v/ warned me about Obsidrones but jesus fucking christ I didn't know it had gotten this bad.
>>342372679
That being said, I highly doubt TESVI is going to be anything amazing. Not so much Todd himself, but Bethesda and Zenimax are well aware what sells now. We won't be getting a Bethesda renaissance anytime soon.
>>342372728
>hat should show that there is something missing in games like NV, or Oblivion
There is. Marketing and brand recognition. You forget that Skyrim sold well because of the advent of "le nerd gamer" culture.
>>342373348
>Betheshill can't into basic argumentation so he resorts to damage control
eyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>342373161
Talk to Nicole then you'll have a secret password to tell Laura because I think she sends you to her I don't remember.
This unlocks more convo with Laura and she becomes a sarcastic qt.
>>342373175
new vegas was basically a fallout 3 expansion pack with 80-90% of the assets/work done for them.
how much time did they really need?
>>342373348
>Bethesda are good boys they dindunuffin.
Companies fuck over other companies all the time. Bethesda aren't any different from EA. Difference is more people are aware now of EA's bullshit.
>>342373505
new thread, todd cocksuckers not welcome
>>342373545
>new vegas was basically a fallout 3 expansion pack with 80-90% of the assets/work done for them.
>>342370098
FO3 is about an independent and strong-minded person, who must overthrow tyrants and decide the fate of the struggling societies of the DC wasteland.
I can't relate to NV's main character because it's just some nerd with revenge issues, who embarks on a journey to find some guy and his chip for no reason. It's silly, it barely makes sense. Can't believe people consider this quality writing, sad.
>>342373545
And Fallout 3 is Oblivion reskinned.
And Fallout 4 is Skyrim reskinned.
What's your point?
>>342373527
>Curious about this Laura character
>Check out her SPECIAL
>8 PER, 9 CHA, 9 INT
Wow, what a goddess
>>342373545
nice B8
>>342373784
> le oblivion with guns meme
do you think farcry is skyrim with guns too?
I'm playing as a dense tribal warrior that wants to be the barbarian king of all the Mojave. I'll probably be friendly with other tribal groups (IE, the Khans and Boomers) but how should I act towards the following?
>Legion
>NCR
>BoS
>Strip families
>>342374029
Pro-Legion/Strip families, anti-NCR/BOS
>>342372728
>FO4's conversations and NV's conversations are actually quite similar, even though a lot of people will disagree with this.
Did you hit Sarcastic?
I've played through both games myself and I would never make this comparison. Fallout 4's dialogue works and reads much more akin to Mass Effect than New Vegas, and not only in the sense that you use a wheel to select them. Your character's personality and inflections are chosen specifically for you, offering you no control in how you say things other than an estimated guess where as NV at least allows you to see what you're saying and making sure it's as close to IC as possible before selecting it.
'Sarcastic' is especially annoying because sometimes I do like my character having a bit of snark, but I would never have selected half of the Leddit-tier 'humour' Fallout 4's sarcastic option presents if I knew what it said beforehand.
Also, if there's only one or two logical choices, NV won't bullshit you with the illusion of choice, they'll put down the 1 or 2 alone, not have 4 options that all end up being the exact same with slightly modded dialogue.
>>342369119
You're a pretty chill anon.
>>342373672
Bethesda isn't BGS, idiot.
That's like saying Viscreal Games is EA.
>>342372546
Not yet. I just restarted my NV because I never finished it a while back. I'm currently doing an NCR run.
>NCR is just a bunch of monotone and mumbling scrubs
>patrolling le memejave almost makes you-- [head explodes from gunshot]
>making me run a bunch of errands
>want more electrical power even though they have the fucking Hoover Dam
>constant scrambling to handle internal affairs
>corrupt people within their government
>MARTIAL LAW
>snoozefest faction
The only perk is that the Legion occassionally sends 4 delivery boys after me that gives me all their equipment and some exp.
I imagine a Legion run to be fun as fuck even though everyone hates you. Chaotic runs tend to be extremely entertaining.
After that I guess I'll do either a House run or Independent. They both seem like they'd be as boring as an NCR run though.
>>342373527
Damn. I thought her being a reserved/shy qt was good on its own
I had a full conversation with Nicole though, she told me about how they were watching the church (hence how I knew to find it) but I never got a chance to ask about Laura as a spy or get that password, I wonder if it wasn't available due to low Int or Cha
Is there a guide of some sort to Fallout conversations where they tell you Int/Cha/Speech prereqs for dialogue options?
>>342369119
If you're into Fallout 4 because of gunfights, why both playing Fallout 4 at all? Why not play Far Cry or Stalker which handle gunplay and exploration much better than Fallout does?
ESPECIALLY Far Cry 3, that has to be my favorite shooter/explorer in terms of the options you have for getting around the island and the ways you can meticulously plan every torturous raid on a base.
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