>30 fps
>720p
>no AA
>no anisotropic filtering
whelp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtfbm0HDhiU
>>342250307
>wii u version
>stream footage
(You)
>>342250471
so it'll be downgraded even further?
also, you can't (You) a (OP) post newfag.
>>342250307
will still be GOTY
>>342250307
> Analyzing stream footage
> Of a game that is almost a year away from release
Jesus Christ DF are desperate for (you)s.
and that is the version with missing shit like towns
it will be even worse on release
>THE P-P-POP IN WAS CAUSED BY THE S-S-STREAM, G-GUYS
HAHAHAHAHA
>>342253852
> muh grayfax
> e3 demo build
> wii u version
>>342254085
>first trailer
>looks amazing
>gameplay is out
>looks shit
>IT WILL LOOK BETTER ON RELEASE!
>>342250307
Hopefully the NX version will be better.
>>342254178
Yes it will
If you care that much about framerates in a Zelda game, get the NX version.
>playing the aborted version
Why would you ever buy this for Wii u over NX?
>>342254356
It will look worse then they add in all the shit that was missing in the e3 demo.
>these framerate drops
Absolutely unacceptable
>720p
>can' maintain 30fps
>terrible pop in
This could have been GotY if it was running on decent hardware.
Isn't Zelda always 30fps or less?
>>342254616
>>342254414
>>342254225
Fuck off, no one is falling for the NX meme.
>>342254178
>first trailer
>literally a cinematic
Retard
>>342254834
*when they add
>>342250307
still has more "technology" that other new games
Someone post the lewd blue outfits nintendo had the girls wearing. I need it
>LTTPfags got OoT
>Gameboyfags got DX
>BREATH of the wild
>WINDwaker
>mfw Windwakerbros finally get our game and it's the best one yet
Arent these the guys that made it seem like Bayonetta 2 had HORRIBLE fps?
>>342250307
>Wii U version
>>342250307
Way better than you PCFat will get (0 FPS, 0p)
>>342255246
>>342250307
Should be comparing it to how well MGSV ran and looked in PS3/360. Both are open world games with a lot of technology. I don't recall the framerate MGSV ran on the older systems but I know the engine was quite optimized.
>>342255056
>NX version inevitably will perform better than the Wii U iteration
>FUCK OFF NO ONE CARES ABOUT THAT
Well this isn't going to go anywhere then.
Seeing as this is a shitpost thread, might as well leave this here. Have at it, guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6lY7cWY3O4
>>342255605
45 fps isnt playable
>it ain't about hardware
>but it isn't about performance either!
Why does anyone like these Jews? It's clear they just maximize profits by cutting costs every chance they get, can't even be fucked to give the fans 60fps and a decent res on their underpowered hardware.
Don't even get me started on their shitty special snowflake Nintendo game "prices" on all their shit. Nintendo are the biggest money grubbing Jews in the industry, enjoy your 2 games on inferior hardware and still under 60fps.
>>342255309
POST LEWD NINTENDO GIRLS
>>342255878
As someone who's played the PS3 version, it runs sub 30 fps at 720
It's still playable and I enjoyed it, but when I when I built my PC there was a stark contrast.
>>342255723
If CEMU continues along it's path, it'll probably be running at full speed a few months after release.
That said, I'll probably get it on WiiU then play it again on CEMU.
>>342256115
Then Zelda being 720/30 on WiiU shouldn't be a surprise to anyone when the Fox engine couldn't do better on the other systems. That engine ran MGSV like butter on weaker PCs.
>>342255932
fake and gay
>>342250307
looks like a cartoon
It's literally okay when Nintendo does it.
>>342250307
>Basing it on stream
>Basing it on a demo
>Ignoring that Nintendo games get better since E3, unlike everybody else
People are really trying desperately to get rid of the fact that Breath of the Wild won E3
>>342256317
Well of course it shouldn't be a surprise, but people are going to shit things up as usual because they can't find anything worthwhile to do.
>>342253852
why does everything have to look foggy
>>342256602
it's the lack of color saturation. Don't know why they went for that look
>>342255969
>it's about games
>shows 2 games
>drones go wild
please calm the fuck down this game is literally coming out in 2017 and its JUNE.
>mfw fire propagation will be cut to fix the FPS drops
>>342256903
I know right, it's the only game coming too so hopefully they work their asses off
I literally don't know what's so special about this game. Forza Horizon 3 and Steep look leagues better.
>>342250307
sonycuck
>>342250307
I wish autistic pcfags would fuck off. we need a pc board.
>>342255002
OoT was 24 I think.
>>342255917
We still don't even know what the NX is exactly or what the specs will look like.
im not even memeing, but graphics are for shit games. the reason people chimp out over Ubisoft graphical downgrades is because the games are shit so without the amazing graphics, there's no reason to play the game. zelda games are fun and look good even with "shit graphics lmao" which is why i'll never care.
>>342256785
personally I like non-dull colors in my games
>>342257182
The fact that PC is an objectively better platform hurts too much does it?
>>342250307
HEY YOU BETTER WATCH OUT OP.
THIS THREAD MIGHT GET DELETED BY THE NINTENDO OVERLORDS
>>342254834
People always post this image when talking about framerate drops but there isn't a framerate drop in that webm. There's plenty of examples of it dropping, this is not one
>BotW hype after video
4/10 I don't even want this game anymore.
>>342257243
Try 14
>>342257978
It drops drastically right before the cut and when the arrow is charging.
>>342257978
Except it does when Link's in the airconsolefag
>>342257672
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/341379103
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/341744009
>>342257587
>have a personality so shallow that you have to find meaning to your life by circlejerking artificial "superiority" on an anonymous internet image board
pic rel it's you
Ocarina of time 240p 16fps
>best game evahhh
Breath of wild 720p 30fps
>worst piece of shit
>>342257357
Bad graphics can affect the aesthetic too unfortunately. Especially things like no anisotropic filtering or a low 720p resolution. It just results in a nasty muddy presentation. There's framerate to worry about too.
>>342256602
stream. it actually is at fault this time. game looks better in videos people took of themselves playing the demo. looks crisper and brighter, more colorful. the nintendo stream did the game no favors when it came to looks
>>342258156
The drop in the first clip might actually just be an intentional frame skip to show that the enemy died. All of the 3D Zelda games have done that.
Not trying to be the Nintendo Defense Force here, since I don't expect the WiiU to run a game like this very well to begin with, and that arrow charging is definitely unintentional, but that's what it looks like to me.
>This thread
>>342258330
>holding a game from 98 to now standards
Doesn't work like that. Nintendo is pure lazy and doesn't care about their users. They work around them with their garbage Fisher price hardware and poorly ran exclusives and lousy prices.
It's an open world game on the WiiU.
It's absurd to expect 60 frames per second.
Its very rare an open world game is 60 FPS. Only time I recall is MGSV and that game had and exceptionally empty world (not that BotW won't, looks like it fell into an identical pitfall)
>>342258667
The standards in 98 were 10fps?
I dont remember that
>>342250307
It's a last gen game dude
I bet you're the same kind of person who defends console exclusives on last gen Sony machines
Skip to 1:09
This is a footage they showed off just a few months. What happened since then?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=03WTfKyiu_g
What is that pizza doing in a zelda game?
>>342257489
Then why didn't you buy battleborn?
>>342258813
Nintendo was never known for graphics.
>>342250307
Yeah it's a console game? What did you fucking expect?
A game's graphics can only be as good as the hardware and consoles are running on 5+ year old hardware.
>>342258809
>10fps
The damage control is astounding
>5 year old hardware that was outdated at release
Realistically speaking the game is going to probably have a dynamic resolution to help resolve some performance issues along with patches a'la xenoblade for it to even manage a locked 30 on the WiiU
That being said if the NX is as powerful as current gen consoles it's more likely to run with an increase of overall performance given the simple geometry compared to other Open world games.Still worried about the inevitable stupid gimmick it'll come with though
>>342258973
It had to function as an actual game and not just a rendering test.
>>342258813
>entire thread shitting on nintendo
>minute-and-a-half long 2fps drop from bloodborne gets posted
>nobody cares
Looks to me like it's only not okay when Nintendo does it.
>>342250307
>no anisotropic filtering
>no
>anisotropic
>filtering
Honestly, this is just unacceptable. Not sure how DF can tell it has 0x AF vs 2x or 4x. But if it's genuinely bilinear/trilinear or whatever, that's fucking awful.
>>342258809
They were actually, most 3D games ran like absolute trash.
Sega/arcade games were the exception at the time.
>a system with hardware that just barely trumps the 360 doesn't deliver good resolution or framerate on a graphically expensive game
>An open world game with dynamic lighting and physics has pop in issues while running on 2 GB of RAM
Holy shit, stop the presses. This is front page news
Holy shit this looks terrible
>>342259312
>deflecting to sony
It begins.
>>342259349
>Honestly, this is just unacceptable
then don't play it.
>>342259034
>0.54 cents were added to your Paypal account
>>342250307
The fact that they managed to invent a new type of game where there's a living breathing world with everything in it existing in a closed eco system is already the most impressive and innovative game we've seen in decades.
The game will run better in time, the fact that they've managed to take gaming 10-20 years forward in game design means this game would require more work to make it look better.
>>342259312
People shitpost about BB's framerate all the time. Quit being a moron.
>>342259569
When did I mention Sony? Bloodborne was developed by FromSoftware. That's a game that people like, that has terrible framerate issues.
>>342259804
>Stalker CoP never existed
>Neither did shit tons of other games
>>342259804
>they managed to invent a new type of game
W-Wait for the NX version
>>342250307
It was okay when Bloodborne did it! Stand strong Sony bros against the tyrannical PC fats! We will shoulder our less fortunate Nintendo refugees as any superior group should.
>>342259569
Don't deny it, /v/ is filled with /fromsoft/ circlejerk.
I like games
>>342259804
>The fact that they managed to invent a new type of game where there's a living breathing world with everything in it existing in a closed eco system is already the most impressive and innovative game we've seen in decades.
This is what happens when you only play Nintendo games. Open world is a big fancy new exiting type of game.
>>342250307
The video that you posted actually gives the game pretty high praise.
why is everyone being a graphics whore?
I think people seem to forget what Skyward Sword Looked like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMkvcKhVCEk
The game could do some HD (720p) but it was designed to play at SD
I mean just fucking look at the AA in this trailer footage. This was the last 3D zelda game released before the HD remakes.
In terms of Zelda, BotW is an insane graphical leap for a series that doesn't seem to give two shits about graphics.
and don't give me shit about how OOT was a graphical masterpiece. Banjo Kazooie and even fucking Mario 64 looked better than OOT.
I just don't see how a Zelda fan would be turned off by bad graphics if the entire series has gone through being somewhat middle to lower ground until now.
>>342250307
We already had this thread this morning.
We came to the conclusion that the Wii U should not be pushing such modern technology on its hardware, and it's very impressive that it seems to match almost PS4 levels of performance in similar games for being a console as powerful as an Xbox 360.
>>342258156
That's an issue with the webm. Those drops aren't there in the real footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prI1xTQ1jbo
>>342259095
>SNES
>N64
>GameCube
>not graphicwhores
>>342250471
I-it's the compression goyims
This is bait. Actual graphicwhores are too busy playing interactive movies to complain about good vidya
>>342260028
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! GRAPHIX ONLY!
>>342260157
It's just PC players. They do that to all games when the only thing that matters is how fun the game is.
This game is Nintendo's lifeline for the NX. It is the console seller to sell the NX. If Nintendo has any sense at all they would make the NX visually more impressive than the Wii U counterpart to sell the system. They would be stupid if they want to sell people on the NX with this single game yet when compared with the poorly performing Wii U it looks to replace performs and looks exactly the same.
But this is Nintendo so i wouldn't be too surprised. Also another sign of potential worry is that the trailer shown likely is how the game will look on NX because the game is developed along side both systems and clearly they will show the superior version for the trailer. Safest bet would be visually around the same but better performance.
>>342255878
It was locked at 30fps on PS3 and 360.
>>342260028
no you don't you just like life even less you escapist whore
>>342260389
cringe.
>people using the "but it's coming out in 2017!" excuse
>meanwhile a game that's also slated to come out in 2017 looks like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4h8o4pWECI
>>342250307
>LMAO 30FPS@720P?? DO U EVEN KNO WHAT ANTI-ALIASING IS BRO? HAVE FUN WITH YOUR POP INS AND JAGGIES BRO, I'LL BE ENJOYING A TRUE NEXT GEN GRAPHICAL EXPERIENCE ON MY PS4
>S-specs don't matter you PC c-ccuck! Real g-gamers don't care about graphics or frame rate! We play for the story and the gameplay!
>>342260518
>a fighting game where each rendered environment is 2-6 character models and a mid range sized map running on a PS4
>Looking better than an open world game on a Wii U
woah...
>>342259934
>>342259947
>>342260039
It has things never seen before in a game.
A level that's actually not closed off and allows the player to traverse through it without load times. The fact that the game has actual physics in it combined with that is already mind blowing. Then you add in a full scale deep crafting system that allows you to collect anything and craft a new object in the world.
The game also contributes to the gameplay with emergent decision based gameplay where you can decide whether to fight or stealth your way through the enemy camp and then use your varied amount of tools to defeat them. Not to mention the fact that the puzzles represents a innovation in design where the sequences of solving the puzzles can be done through immersive gameplay using the world's environment.
Rather than go from point A to B, Zelda BoTW create a new type of autonomy for the player where the player does not need to follow a set path but allows for experimentation and using the varied amounts of mechanics to bypass areas and to progress through the game faster.
Zelda: BoTW represents an innovation in game design and has literally never been done before. and I'm shocked /v/ isn't loving the game because it represents what the future of games could look like.
>>342250307
>drops to 24 FPS in combat
>>342260716
you're right. I can't wait to enjoy The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, fellow Nintendo fan. :)
>Wii U matching graphics of PS4 at the same frame rate and resolution for similar games
Top kek
>gameplay looks like shit
>b-but the graphics are super good! l-lmao console cucks
>gameplay looks amazing
>b-but the graphics are shit! l-lmao nintendrones!
like pottery.
>>342260518
It's almost like a pre-rendered trailer for a fighting game on stronger hardware would look better than uncut open world gameplay on a yet to be optimised game.
>>342261019
it rhymes
>>342256785
Wii U has limited range color output, which results in a washed out image. TVs are usually able to compensate for it, but on a computer monitor it's very obvious something is wrong with the image.
>>342256317
I'm still pissed that the Fox Engine is locked away. All that potential used for Pachinko.
I'm excited about a '3D' Zelda for the first time in my life. I loved the first game on the NES, and really loved the SNES game, but after that I never really wanted to play the new games. This one looks very fun and is much like the older games. I can't wait to go secret hunting. My WiiU will actually be turned on next year.
>>342260290
>modern technology
>720p resolution
>anti-aliasing
>anisotrophic filtering
indeed, such modern rendering technology has no place in a nintendo game
>>342260716
Wait seriously, it does all that? Sign me up!
>>342260716
You just described far cry 2
>>342261310
it doesn't have the best uncompressed pixels
so 9+ months of this huh?
I think I'll just go get a job.
>>342260294
Exactly
>>342261456
what potential? what makes fox better than ue4?
all these engines seem more or less the same.
>>342256554
>Nintendo games get better since E3
>#FE
>>342250307
WHO CARES? WHO ACTUALLY FUCKING CARES? IT LOOKS FUN! WHAT IS THE FUCKING OBSESSION? JESUS, JUST ENJOY VIDEO GAMES PLEASE?
>>342260716
this sounds alot like mgs5.
>>342250307
this looks like it's full of things you'll do once or twice and never again. I really hope the open world is just a nice aside/supplement, and not the main thing. I'm still getting a bad feeling about this though. like they'll do something that ruins everything.
>>342258640
Pretty sure the hit stop thing only started with wind waker.
>>342259095
I found teh underaged faggot, guys.
>>342258165
You mean the time slow power?
>>342259804
Is this b8, or are people genuinely this deluded?
>>342259312
Bloodborne got at least 10 shitposting threads of its own every day for like 4 months leading up to its release, and there was plenty of FPS criticism in there. Nintendo is getting a lot of shit because they stubbornly insisted on showing off Wii U footage that looked and played subpar instead of just trotting out the NX and doing the game justice. They could've done a side-by-side comparison to drum up hype for the new console, but just didn't for some reason so now everyone assumes Zelda looks like ass.
>>342262198
that's what I'm thinking too.
meh.I'll probably just watch a chuggaaconroy LP or something.
>>342256554
WiiU owners can't play majority of the games at E3, which is why they can only talk about Zelda and Cowtits, Quite pathetic really while other gamers from other platforms have several games that they are interested in which makes their social media activity scattered.
>>342262776
agreed man *fistpumps you*
This is the one game you don't give a shit about the grafix.
OoT ran at 20FPS and is still hailed as the GOTYAY.
>>342258007
same. this is gonna be terrible.
why couldn't we just have another OOT/MM?
hell, even WW was better. at least they tried a new aesthetic/theme. this is just another boring empty field. and people complain about WW ocean being empty.... apparently it's alright when lttp and every other Zelda with a field does it.
>>342262738
you are the problem with gaming.
>>342262970
>OoT ran at 20FPS and is still hailed as the GOTYAY.
Yeah, but OoT was graphically very impressive in 1998.
BotW looks like shit AND has a terrible framerate too.
>>342262970
You really need to learn about the concept of relativity.
>>342263183
maybe when games stop trying to be movies and aimless sandboxes like this I'll care.
>>342263323
>>342263220
What is an individual opinion?
does anyone believe this will be anything other than a shamless TES clone?
Nintendo has shown time and time again they ran out of original ideas years ago and instead poorly implement whatever the current trend is, usually poorly. remember how broken and nonsensical the shield stamina was in SS?
>>342263220
>>342263323
What I'm saying is Zelda games don't really look need grafix to do their thing, that's why Nintendo wisely chose cel shading for this game. OoT wasn't that impressive compared to Half life 1 for example. You play a Zelda game for the gameplay.
>>342263620
>shameless TES clone
Opinion discarded
You can't do half the shit you see on the gameplay trailer on a TES game.
>>342250307
>If it's linear it's garbage
>If it's sand box it's garbage
>If it's realistic it's garbage
>If it's colorful it's garbage
>If it's PC it's garbage
>If it's Nintendo it's garbage
>If it's Sony it's garbage
>If it's Xbone well no surprise it's garbage.
I genuinely pity the mentality of people these days, it seems that even if you're an idort you'll be put on blast.
>>342263620
Yeah, identical.
>>342261770
Not him, but Far Cry 2, Just Cause 2-3 don't have any progression for the character. What you have at the beginning of the game is the same that what you have at the end of the game.
Zelda will have a progression for its character but also means to sequence break, something that Metroidvania are praised for.
You can't sequence break in TES 4-5 because the enemies have the same level that you have and MGS progession is based on weapons/tools only and you can beat the game without any of these.
Zelda seems to introduce a completely new formula honestly.
>>342258330
if other current consoles run their games 720p@30fps they got mocked by whole entire Nintendogaf and we another "it's okay when Nintendo does it" thread
>>342263673
>You play a Zelda game for the gameplay.
but they're always middling in every mechanic. only worthwhile thing OOT had was time travel, which was done better in CT anyhow.
>>342264013
No, they get mocked by PC fags, who are also Nintendofags in many cases.
>>342264053
How is time travel a gameplay mechanic?
>>342264013
it is. Nintendo is like your senile grandmother. just go easy on her. remember the good times and remember that she isn't what she used to be, but there's still some life left in her. or a kid running in the special Olympics. the bar needs to be set lower for them because they don't do certain things as well as their competitors, but they have the most spirit/heart, something the competition almost completely lacks.
>>342263846
if you like anything, you'll be put on blast. /v/ isn't for video game discussion, it's pretending each and every release will have ToR levels of backlash and then patting ourselves in the back when we think we're right; which is always/never
>>342263846
>If it's Xbone well no surprise it's garbage
This is the absolute WORST offender unless we are talking about the Xbone (or gen 8 in general). I can't stand the people who think the OG Xbox or 360 don't have games just because it's marketed towards dudebros.
>>342264329
tatl is a cunt.
>>342264137
Playing as young link and older link and switching between them. The differences between the world after time travel.
>>342263673
>OoT wasn't that impressive compared to Half life 1 for example.
Bollocks. Half Life was impressive, but OoT was the best looking game in 1998.
>>342258287
More like I feel bad for people being ripped off because of their ridiculous fandom.
>>342250307
An interview with reggie Said That graphics dont matter and they they Will focus on gameplay. My fucking god
>>342262097
I can run TPP with a gt 440 and a g1820 with everything on high except post processing and shadows at 30 fps. The engine is a beast.
>>342264528
OoT's textures are muddy garbage.
>>342254356
>>342254085
There's no way you're this stupid. You honestly think that it's going to look better than a demonstration? Even after the original footage was far better than what we have now?
>tfw you realize Zelda is largely mediocre and it's mostly just leftover nostalgia from playing OOT when you were a kid and you keep chasing that dragon in vain, while in the back of your mind you realize it'll never come again
>>342264472
And that's why she was one of the best companions in 3D zeldas.
>>342264515
That's a storytellying mechanic, a gameplay mechanic would be Z-targeting.
>>342264528
Go play both
>>342250307
So it's that time? We hate this game for these reasons, because the gameplay portion looks incredible, but people still have to have some reason to shit on it?
D-Don't worry nintenbros NX will fix everything!
>>342257343
It's already confirmed to be the same as an xbox one
>>342264662
Yes, because Nintendo games actually get better with time.
see >>342256554
>>342264528
OOT wasn't even the best n64 game.
banjo looked much better. Nintendo is pretty inept even with their own hardware.
>>342260716
I need more convincing because all I'm seeing is an empty open world with some kinda cool fire effectst (that was already done in farcry 2)
>>342264687
>Go play both
I played both, chum, in 1998.
Its always fun to watch the Nintendrone reaction when they finally get a game. It's like a battered house wife defending her man
>>342264684
I only played OoT 2 years ago and thought it was dated as fuck and had very very little to enjoy anymore.
I decided to give Windu Waker and Twilight Princess a chance afterwards and loved both of them.
>>342264614
He didn't said it idiot. Go search for the video to understand the context, imbecile.
>>342264684
Go playe ALBW and tell me its nostalgia
>>342264684
Everyone who gets mad at Zelda is mad that the series both didn't "grow up" with them, but also can't make them feel like kids again.
>>342264975
what other things has this game copied?
let's see, it took the gravity gun from half life
>>342250307
>inb4 seven thousand comments baselessly implying the NX version will be dramatically better
We already discussed this before
NX version will be the definitive one, Wii U owners will get cucked.
>>342265003
>mad nintendo literally won E3 with a single game
>>342265002
do it again
>>342265080
why can't a series grow? why can't we see actual blood for a change? not saying they need to turn it into god of war, but enemies exploding into smoke looks so dumb.
>>342265193
Here is the delusion in question
>>342256785
that's not how it actually looks on a TV, the Wii U had a shit HDMI output with a weird color range that is not supported by many monitors
>>342252903
>it's just a beta
>>342265192
It's the exact same situation as before with TP man. TP was a gamecube game they ported to the Wii, same with BotW. The gamecube game is the definitive one here, why would it be any different?
>>342265067
That doesn't help your case, buddy. ALBW is a pretty mediocre game riddled with ALttP fanservice. It also achieves non-linearity in the laziest way.
>>342265192
>trusting Nintendo after throwing their loyal fanbase under the bus for the Nth time.
I really don't understand their mentality. they're like a child with ADHD and too many toys. they know the wiiu has failed, yet don't seem to realize it's not because it's underpowered, but because it has no worthwhile software. what the fuck is NX supposed to solve? they outright said it won't even be a powerhouse, and it probably won't even have an interesting gimmick. well, at any rate this will probably be their last console.
>>342264662
stop being so epic!
>>342265193
E3 '16 was a total bust. There wasn't anything outstanding on any presentation and it's sad how most flock to 1 or 2 console exclusives now.
>>342265329
Not really
Gamecube and Wii were pretty much similar in hardware, Aonuma already stated that the NX versions will have improved visuals.
>>342265249
BotW was the most talked about game of all E3.
What game makes people do this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMRnlWf2P0
>>342265329
>GCN
>defninitive
haha no.
>>342262125
>no reply
He's probably crying right now
>>342260358
So what does this have to do with Zelda?
And it will still be GOTY
>>342265193
I don't care if they had gotten Half Life 3 as an exclusive, it's fucking embarrising that they had ONE game that looks like an 8/10 at all of E3. Explain how they won. Zero horizon looks like the same thing except not from 2006.
>>342265687
Are you seriously trying to say that Wii's TP was better when that was a horrendous mess?
>>342250307
>issues maintaining 30 fucking fps in battles
Consoles was a mistake. Holy shit. I'm glad they are being phased out in the future.
>>342253852
jesus christ, why don't they just look at how Just Cause did it
>>342265193
Yep they sure won alright, getting not even half the media coverage as Sony or Microsoft
>>342265721
what else is coming out 2017? it'll probably win by default.
>>342250307
>will be fun to play anyways
Fine by me.
>>342256554
Those all look like shit? Literally PS2 quality.
>>342265921
except it wasn't? It was the same shit with some wagglin on it
>>342265978
Also Breath of the Wind wasn't named best game in show, that title goes to Battlefield 1
>>342265892
>8/10 while praising the most generic game in existence
Well most media and people in general placed Zelda as the best game of E3, so your opinion seems to be wrong :)
>>342263620
Nintendo doesn't even have to try, their fanboys will buy their shit because of muh nostalgia regardless of the quality or lack thereof.
>>342266013
Dude no, it was a terrible port job that had more glitches than the GC version.
>>342266002
suddenly framerate doesnt affect gameplay
>>342260716
>A level that's actually not closed off and allows the player to traverse through it without load times. The fact that the game has actual physics in it combined with that is already mind blowing. Then you add in a full scale deep crafting system that allows you to collect anything and craft a new object in the world.
Literally Minecraft
>>342264013
>>342258667
A better example would be 3D World
Shit controls worse than SM64
>>342250307
Game looks better in videos not from the Nintendo stream.
>>>/vg/146172596
>>342265892
seriously. but it'll be shunned because it's a new IP, and features a female protag. just goes to show the power of mindless fanboyism. same thing with FFVII when it was first released back in the day. people who were fans of the series thought it looked amazing, but everyone else was wondering what the big deal was. it's a matter of looking better than past games in the series, and not everything else around it.
>>342250307
>gaming is all about technical specs comparison
>>342265540
Literally all Nintendo has to do is mention new Zelda and people will talk
>>342266076
>number of articles
nice false statistic
>>342265020
>Tried to play TP recently
>Started the intro
>Got the horse
>Remember having to heard those cattle like 3 times cause of the intro, hear piece, and some other upgrade
>Get ptsd
If only I could get past that I'd probably enjoy the game.
>>342266290
That's what happens when you take care of your IPs.
i guarantee if rockstar had revealed RDR 3 it would've been comparable to Zelda in the amount of talk generated.
What did people expect with ~180 GFlops
>>342265456
That's not an argument. You can't make a ridiculous claim and then just say "YOU'RE BEING EPIC" when you're called out
>>342265192
"NX version will be the definitive one"
>Doesn't even know what the NX is, nor its real name.
>Implying it will not come with yet another controller gimmick
>Trusting Nintendo with a home console after this blunder of a gen.
>>342266076
>Battlefield 1
the "half of German soldiers were black" game? You fucking kidding?
>>342266256
See, I want it but there's no fucking way I'm buying a PS4 when the neo is on it's way
>>342266557
haha just epic my man, just epic
>>342266339
>social media
>>342265329
Wrong. With twilight princess, they basically saw that the wii was coming out and just decided to port the gamecube game to the wii. This one has been developed simaltaneously with the wii u version and was one of the reasons it was delayed.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/06/delays_with_the_legend_of_zelda_breath_of_the_wild_due_to_physics_engine_and_dual_release_decision#comments
>>342256554
Oh man, that arwing on the far left looks fucking, pic unrelated:^)
>>342266275
well you have to stare at the game while you're playing it so it should at least not make your eyes bleed
>>342266843
What other way of measuring audience interest is there that is more reliable?
>>342266786
Dude, generation leaps back then were fucking mindblowing when you compare FFVI graphics to FFVII. The prerendered backgrounds and 3d models/animations in combat blew everything away.
ugh. this is going to be SS all over again.
>>342267065
>back then
they're more mindblowing now.
>>342266661
>this gen
more like the past 3
snes was the last good Nintendo console. why can't they just make another one of those? do they not like staying relevant/money?
>>342260430
While it might not be a system seller, Pikmin 4 is gonna be announced as a launch title as well.
>>342267310
Sure they are when games released at the start of a generation have a version for the old gens. That is a great indication that the technology leaps are in full effect. Take the release lineups of PSX and N64. NONE of those games could run on SNES or Genesis.
>>342266171
what glitches? besides that one room and maybe the blue rupee thing I can't think of any. plus it looked way better, shorter load times and had fun waggle controls.
>>342263620
I remember pretty well Mario Galaxy changing yet another time the conception of what a 3D platformer can be. The only bad 3D zelda was SS. The others always tried to change at least partly what Zelda was.
>TP had its 3 hour long dungeons that were solid
>WW introduced a wider exploration exploiting the GC hardware to avoid loading screens and using cell-shading to make it look good without taking too much resources.
SS is the worst because it forced its narration and had the different regions of its world built like stars from the 3D marios. follow the slope, run to this wall, explode this or that. There was no interactions with NPC, or barely the minimum.
They learn between two games. Especially with 6 years to develop this one.
Why are toddlers backpedaling on their "standards" when it applies to Zelda all of a sudden?
>>342266223
or xenoblade.
>>342266249
Yes, Reggie says "This is not the final version, don't see this as the final product" At 06:14
https://youtu.be/JWVdUsQFZYw?t=11m22s
>>342250307
>>no AA
But it does have AA. Why would you just lie like that?
And how come no one called you out on it for almost 250 posts?
>>342267519
>what is starfox
I don't understand, am I supposed to suddenly not be excited for the game now?
Nigger what the fuck is wrong with you I've played Dragon's Dogma on ps3, this is nothing. Game's going to be amazing.
what would happen if aonuma/miyamoto/the director dropped dead?
>buttblasted fanboys are so desperate they have to use framerate tools to find anything to shitpost
Wouldn't it be grand if a trailer came for the NX version at like November or something, showing the game at like 1080p 60fps? It probably won't happen but i'd be something.
>>342267896
Starfox 64 does NOT look anything like original Starfox. If you think the jump between PS3 and PS4 is more impressive than the 16 bit to 32 bit era, you need help.
>>342268172
how will that make the gameplay better?
this isn't bayonetta. framerate doesn't matter. actually high framerates make me sick.
>>342267054
Certainly not by using a key phrase algorithm on social media sites because it can give you false positives. Did you know there is a book called Breath of the Wild? Did you know there is also a movie called Breath of the Wild? How does the algorithm distinguish passing reference of the game to actual discussion about it? How does it distinguish positive word of mouth to negative?
The key problem with such statistics is you can't know if they are accurate unless you actually read through every single post to see whether they are even relevant. Furthermore even if that statistic is relevant it doesn't tell you how popular the game actually was as it doesn't tell you how much of the discussion on the game is positive and how much is negative. Lets assume that for the sake of argument it was primarily negative discussion instead of positive, then the game would actually be unpopular yet if you only go by the number of people talking about it you'd think that the game was popular.
The number of people talking about something on Social media isn't a great indicator of how popular something is.
>>342250307
What the hell did you expect?
It's open world, this is going to happen no matter what. I mean how many console games have you even played? I just don't get the surprise and ruckus over it honestly. The visuals still look fine, probably plays fine. And this is just what console games are like, especially open world ones, where the worst case scenario on limited hardware has to be globally accounted for.
Seriously, I don't get the complaints over graphics and performance when game design is generally much less accounted for. Where are the priorities...
>>342268243
doom ran in snes
it was capable of 3D just fine.
compare uncharted 2 to 4 though. it's night and day.
>>342268303
It wouldn't, but at least people would stop making bait threads on how "NINTENDRONE WILL DEFEND DIS!"
Personally i'd be ok with 720p 30 fps and they focus on mechanics and content.
>people expecting Zelda to look mindblowing
what? more than half the games are on underpowered handhelds and look like absolute rubbish. what is this a new meme?
>>342264285
I have mixed feelings about your analogy..... 11/10
>>342265519
>Aonuma already stated that the NX versions will have improved visuals.
[citation needed]
>>342265540
That's sad that Wii U owners only get 1 game worth playing that they have to stampede or wait in a queue for 4 hours.
>>342264137
>PCucks are also Nintendogaffer
>Implying those mustard graphics elitist faggots play consoles
Nintendo is like in other end of the spectrum, why would PCucks associate with a console faggots, that doesn't make any sense, your comment is more pathetic than a xbone user who coattails with the PC mustards
>>342261310
>>342265304
You mean that the HDMI doesn't output full range RGB? That still doesn't explain the general fogginess of everything. It could be a factor though.
Also if that's the problem why the hell didn't they setup their demo properly at the fucking E3? It should be obvious that something's wrong.
>>342250307
Still has an amazing art style
>wii u generally agreed to be under-powered hardware by Nintendo fans and shitposters alike
>BREAKING NEWS: wii u game looks bad, can you believe it?! nintendoomed!
I don't understand shitposters, man.
>>342263182
>another OOT
you are the fans killing the series
>>342268493
I mean, Horizon and Battlefield sound much more common on regular talk than the hrase BotW. There must be a measure to prevent false positivs from surfacing.
positive and negative discussion is still interest in the game. And I doubt much of the discussion about BotW was negative.
Again, what other way is there to measure audience interest in the games at E3?
>>342268808
That's sad that E3 only had 1 game worth playing that they have to stampede or wait in a queue for 4 hours.
>>342266339
Again, read this.
>>342262776
>>342268493
>The number of people talking about something on Social media isn't a great indicator of how popular something is.
Not him, but can't you just project trends for #BreathOfTheWild or similar terms from before E3 dropped, then take the difference now?
I'm not too big on statistics, but I know there are ways to do it.
>>342266478
But we haven't had a good Zelda in a while. It has nothing to do with taking care of and everything to do with once upon a time there was a very good Zelda.
>Tfw Zelda is so great that shitposters have to resort to graphic complains
it looks fucking awful and nobody should be excited about it.
It's literally just an empty open game engine sample project ala No Man's SKy
THERE IS NO FUCKING CONTENT OR THINGS TO DO JUST WALK AROUND THE FUCKING TERRAIN AND FIGHT BOKOBIOKOBOLINS WHICH MANGAGED TO LOOK EVEN GAYER THIS TIME.
Look at the trailer for Twilight Princess, it has many things and scenes from the game. A rich, breathing world.
There are no scenes in Breath of the Wild, because it's literally just Minecraft without building and a zelda skin.
Fuck all these shills.
>>342268940
If you made a survey on /v/ I guarantee you more than 50% of nintendofags also have a gaming PC.
People with PCs just like to shit on sonyggers because they are the ones shitting on Xbros and nintendofags about grafix even when their shit cinematic experiences only look marginally better.
>>342262776
>>342269162
But I own a Wii U and a PS4? Why can I suddenly not play the 'majority' of games at E3?
Oh wait, this is projection from someone's who mommy could only afford one console.
>>342269279
A link Between Worlds and Hyrule Warriors were good.
>>342269162
Wii U owners generally have other consoles/a PC to play on though
>>342260014
I don't think anybody ever said fromsoft were good at optimizing games though. Ever since demon's souls they've been incapable of avoiding framerate drops.
But at least their games look pretty good (besides some areas in DaS2). This new Zelda looks very last-gen.
>>342268243
you're right. amazing difference. how could I have been so silly?
>mfw Breath of the Wild only sells 4 million copies on the Wii U and NX combined
>>342268067
His wish would be granted
>>342264591
>>342264591
>>342264591
Given how fast CEMU is progressing it's very much possible that we'll be able to emulate this game on day 1. I wonder how Nintendo would react to that.
>>342269721
You really think Doom is a good game to do console comparisons? It's like comparing the PS3 and 4 by using DaS 2.
>>342269313
>graphics aren't relevant if it's Nintendo
>>342265313
It literally is, not to mention a whole other version.
>>342269891
you'd be able to emulate it, hell I'm sure you could emulate it now but there'd be some kind of fuck up along the way
>Framedrops
>broken textures
>fucked up audio
But if you can live with it be my guest.
>>342269980
Except that nobody expects good graphics on the Wii U
>>342269313
I'll await the 8.5 from gamespot.
>>342269980
you're right, aesthetics however do matter.
>shitposters shitting on BotW
>still gonna pirate it anyways
lol
>>342269980
Graphics aren't relevant anyway, especially when the game is large and complex enough to justify it.
>>342269746
I just want a Zelda like dark souls. why does miyamoto have to be such a cuck and pander to 8 year olds and soccer moms who don't even like/play their games anymore? why can't the series just evolve already? at least put in a hard mode ffs.
>>342265313
It is a E3 version you retard, this is not the final product
https://youtu.be/JWVdUsQFZYw?t=11m22s 06:10 Reggie confirms.
>>342270082
Given how popular this game is going to be I'm sure those issues could be ironed out pretty fast. Besides you'd probably get better resolution on a high end PC (especially a high end PC from 2017).
But anyway, I don't really care about that, I'm just curious to know what Nintendo will do to prevent it if it turns out that CEMU is capable of running the game when it releases.
>>342270356
can you pirate wiiu games now?
huh. well that's good. I pirated SS and glad I did. what a steaming turd.
>>342270520
it's more or less final. they wouldn't show off something too unpolished. that's not their style. they don't announce games 10 years in advance like SE.
>>342270551
read the post again
>>342250307
>720
Whyyyyyyyy
I have a big ass tv and anything below 1080 looks like complete dogshit
Nintendo please.
>>342266076
>Also Breath of the Wind wasn't named best game in show
>>342250307
>Jog/run animation hardly going anywhere and being that jerky
That's just going to bother me until I get used to it.
As an owner of Sony consoles, vita, ps3 and ps4. This looks like a fun game and i hope it does well.
>>342269723
>>342269723
re4 sold much less than re5. sales don't indicate quality. unless you want a good game to fail, in which case eyou're a cunt.
>>342270682
He literally said it wasnt final. Theres alot you can do in 9 months. People got the general gist of the game.
>>342270535
It's not having a powerful computer that's the issueto a degreethe main issue is getting the emulator properly coded and that'll be a bitch to fix.
I don't think nintendo will give a fuck given their stance on dolphin.
>>342250307
If they just changed that hideous cel shading on the characters I would be ok
>>342251272
>you can't (You) a (OP) post newfag.
Are you baiting or an idiot?
>>342269746
kek
>>342253852
All consoles have pop issues anon.
Fuck, even some PC games have em.
If these are the best complaints you can come up with then you're doing a poor job of quelling my excitement.
>>342250307
>m-muh graphics
Graphics whores are the worst.
Get out of my hobby you whiny, shallow cunts.
>>342258813
>point out facts
>gets deleted
lol
>>342270370
Truth. I'm not a nintendo fanboy but I am a fan of open world games such as Elder Scrolls and Fallout, or Witcher series and they rely on you being too distracted by all the things to do and wjats going on, to not stop and look closely at how ass much of the graphics actually are. Even games as gorgeous as Witcher 3 has its share of low res textures and special effects designed to obscure lower rez textures. Its necessary to sacrifice resolution to lower the demand on the graphics processor so the framerate doesn't nose dive. Not everybody can afford the greatest graphics card, and not every console has the resources to render high resolution textures without sacrificing framerate, so for open world games lower rez graphics is excusable.
>muh graphics: the post
Gameplay looks good so why is it a problem?
Just imagine when nintendo goes third party and releases a WiiU classics collection.
>>342260201
>"W-WELL SKYWARD SWORD LOOKED BAD AND THE Z-ZELDA SERIES HAS NEVER REALLY BEEN A GRAPHICAL MARVEL S-S-SO ITS OKAY GUYZ!!!"
No, fuck off. Zelda does not get a free pass for being behind the times, all the time. They need to catch the fuck up. Don't settle for mediocrity.
So this is going to be /v/ for the next months.
Just shitposting about Zelda visuals
I'm a little upset about the FPS, but other than that who fucking cares? Go take your pepto and fuck off.
>>342269891
it proves my point.
>b-but it's not valid!
whatever
WTF
I hate consoles now!
>>342250307
gameplay looks fun, like every zelda, but god damn its a fucking EYESORE
>>342271582
Like when they went 3rd party after the n64? Oh wait you mean the virtual boy. Or the GameCube?
>>342271107
Not as bad as that though.
>>342270881
Hey I wasn't trying to be a cunt, I just think all the hype for Breath of the Wild is overblown. It'll be successful for Nintendo that is a given, but will it sell like over 20 million copies and get millions of people to buy the NX, I have my doubts.
>>342271838
>Too big to fail!
>>342271964
Those were all failures, along with the wii u. They just haven't done anything buttfuckingly retarded like sega yet. And i doubt they will any time soon.
huh.
>>342271940
what sold 20 mil?
>>342272204
why is wii u a failure?
>>342270895
9 mos is nothing. literally. they've been working on it 5 years.
I'm used to 1080p 144hz so it's going to be painful for me, but I'm sure I'll still play it and enjoy it. If the NX version is 1080p 60 fps I'd probably give in to nintendo's jewry and get one.
>>342272204
You have yet to realize the industry is different. Now 1 failure count as 5.
>>342272717
It sold one tenth of the previous Nintendo console.
It only sold around million more than the Dreamcast despite being sold and supported for over a year longer now.
>>342271964
People seem to forget that it is ultimately not the age, past successes or fan base of a company which dictates its success but rather its reputation with shareholders. You remember Sega? That could just as easily happen to Nintendo if they lose the confidence of their shareholders by releasing failure after failure. Even if the NX fails I doubt that'd be enough though, I think it would take a console made after that failing to be the last nail in the coffin for shareholders.
>>342273132
why?
>>342272893
it'd make more sense for NX version to come out first. might as well just spit on wiiu owners more, really rub their face in it.
>>342273329
Simultaneous release.
>>342272467
I call bullshit on the grounds that the photo of Oblivion is from a modded version of the game. The colours in vanilla Oblivion aren't that vibrant or draw distance that clear without a third party mod such as imaginator and the game also is obviously using a high rez texture mod.
I would still play the shit out of it if it was 480p 20 fps, feels good to play games for the gameplay and not technical aspects
>>342272617
Idk its just some random number I pulled out of my ass. Point is I think Breath of the Wild will be successful but I don't think it'll be so popular as to drive people to run out and get an nx/wii U allowing it to sell tens of millions of copies. I think more realistically it'll sell between 4-8 million copies, a big win for nintendo but hardly the most popular game of all time or necessarily for the year as some of the hype is claiming
Nintendofags on suicide watch.
God, Bloodborn runs around 25 FPS on "Superior" console, and that game has no physics engine to it nor does it even come close to the same kind of hit detection this Zelda game seems to have. So how come people are shitting on this game when bloodborn was heavily defended?
Oh, wait
>It only matters when nintendo does it
>>342267769
>that "interview"
Jesus christ. It's terrible.
>>342274686
Nice victim complex fag, no single game on the history of /v/ was shitposted more than bloodborne
>>342274686
>and that game has no physics engine to it nor does it even come close to the same kind of hit detection this Zelda game seems to have
What the fuck are you on about
>Same thread day in day out
>People are trying this hard to drag a game down they aren't getting
Last time I saw this happening on such a scale was Bayonetta 2 and if we put two and two together it's fairly clear why these threads exist.
It's laughable really.
>>342275161
Its a PCuck tradition at this point
>>342275028
MGSV gives it a run for its money, even if it's more flawed than Bloodborne
>>342275161
I'm seeing a lot of valid points.
>>342273619
where does it say that? that's terrible. it should either come out first or way later, about a year from release.
>>342273726
It is vanilla oblivion. Everything you said is bullshit, vanilla oblivion has vibrant as fuck colors. The grass is nuclear green for the longest part of the day. Those are the default textures, also.
The draw distance is also unmodified and if it were, you wouldn't be able to notice on that picture.
As that comparison picture was posted, I was thinking of the same: TES Oblivion looks so much better than Zelda BotW
>>342270682
>>342272892
Content and features are going to be locked down at this point, yes. But optimization and debugging typically happen at the tail end of the development cycle. It's completely reasonable to expect some degree of improvement, but there's no guarantee they'll achieve a rock-solid 30fps. It wouldn't be the first open world game (or 3D zelda game) to have framerate issues.
>>342273215
no response.
huh. but I guess we know why...
>>342274686
>and that game has no physics engine to it nor does it even come close to the same kind of hit detection this Zelda game seems to have.
New meme phrase.
Can't wait to buy the NX and this game bundled together, and enjoy it~ Hope you PCucks enjoy the shitty emulators, i heard they almost perfected the N64~
>>342250307
>have a 30fps monitor
>high res, but I don't give a shit.
>low-end pc
>Don't give a fuck about AA and anisotropic filtering because I can appreciate that it looks good without pixel-pushing
>>342276348
>have a 30fps monitor
Either your monitor is very old or one of the newer 4k models which actually do have a horrendous 30hz refresh rate but since you said you have a low-end pc I have to ask.... Why did you even buy a 4k monitor if you can't benefit at all from having it due to having a shitty low-end pc?
>>342266076
That graph shows number of articles, not number of best game in show awards. Can you read?
>>342277064
nice ps3 version
next time try turning the graphics up and see where that gets you
Are you fags complaining about frame rate on a zelda game? Kys
