I honestly don't think there's anyway to get past this meat grinder of aimbot bullshit without specifically coordinating what each of your team mates characters are using. And even then you have to rely on an extremely small window of opportunity just to pull out a victory.
Don't even hit me with the "Just use Pharah/Junkrat/Widowmaker" bullshit. Maps like Volskaya make it impossible for snipers to get a clear close view without being turned into swiss cheese. I chose Pharah specifically for dealing with Bastions/Torbjorns, but the moment you take out one of these Mini-Me fucks, there are still the others, and by the time you take out another turret, they're already building another one. Even on youtube there aren't many videos of defeating this team without sheer chance, one of them was only won because the team were idiots and none of them were on the point.
>>341998461Get gud
>>341998461
Reinhardt is a Torbjörn hard counter.
>>341998461
if the enemy is playing a all "blank" comp, your team should just go all counter.
SO if they're stacking 4 torbs. stack 4 pharas and 2 riens.
git gud scrub
>using teamwork in a team based game
WOW!
>3+ torbs
>1 symmetra
>Defending
It's the very definition of anti fun
>>341998461
I had a team do this to me in a pub the other week.
I just went Lucio and kept on healin'
Team mates eventually worked out what they could use to counter the endless molten cores, and we pushed to a win.
Coincidentally first time I've ever felt robbed for not getting one of those shitty cards at the end of a match, 91% of the match on fire as Lucio, no one voted for it.
>>341998461
2 reins
2 pharahs
some sort of healer and a rat works well.
but in general hero stacking should'nt be in the game, its abusive as fuck and ruins the entire point of having a diverse cast when only 6 are taken at most at high levels of play.
>>341998461
>pick D.Va
>find a spot that's in sight of as many turrets as possible
>fly there
>press Q
Just use 1 uber on a good demoman or 2 ubers on two mediocre demos. You'll be able to crack any defense then ;)
>>341998461
the problem is volskaya. volskaya is literaly torbjorn industries, almost impossible to lose with that hero in that map
>>341999309
Even playing with people who know what they're doing and communicating through Discord, I've yet to completely stomp a full Torbjorn team on defense.
>>341998461
that's because quick play is just the casual aspect of it all. competition mode will only allow for two of the same heros
>>341998461
Just pick junkrat and shoot around the corner
>>341998461
Pharah (ulting) + Zarya's sheild
Rein too for tanking the bullets
Winston helps too with his bubblesheild and well timed rage mode to knock torbs away from the sentries
The problem is that most teams are fuckin retarded and go some useless fucking class like hanzo
>>341999721
Can somebody tell me why Symmetra's sentries are capable of slowing you down? They're meant to be a pester mechanic to chip away health as you try to run through, making you easier to pick off by the rest of the enemy team or by Symmetra herself. Instead, walking into a hallway of 3+ often turns into a guaranteed death because they slow you down too much for you to back out.
hullo there console kiddies
>>342000069
Pretty much, we've always been able to get the first point but God save you from ever getting into objective B
>>342000069
You pretty much need a flyer like Phara or D.Va to get around to the back while a Rein comes in with a shield and the rest of your team to get the turret's attention. If they have multiple Torbs though, then I have no fucking idea.
I still do not understand why they ever allowed more than two people to pick the same hero because some characters that aren't broken by themselves become broken as all fuck as a team of many.
>>342000454
Why can't Hanzo's ult destroy turrets? it's not like It's difficult for a torb to make a new one.
>>342001259
I don't understand how they shipped maps like Volskaya, Hanamura and Anubis. Some of the worst map design I've ever seen in a game period.
>>342000778
Because she'd be worse then dirt if she couldn't at least set up a kill zone.
She's only semi decent in combat, and the +25 shields to team mates is decent but often not game changing.
Think of them like junkrats trap. If you walk into it you are probably going to die.
>>341998461
No shame, let the salt flow
RINEHEART
>>342000783
Hey there PC neck beard
How's that virginity treating you?
>>342001415
Temple of Anubis is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. Absolutely retarded. I dodge it every time if I have to attack it.
Isn't Genji a hard counter for Torbjorn?
>>342000778
Because they are made out of tissue paper and die to literally anything sneezed at them. Over half the cast has an ability or weapon that can easily clear a nest.
>>342001456
Torb is my most played too, feels good man.
>tfw whining for turret nerfs even though they don't do shit for damage and die in 2 seconds
>>341999934
If you think a single demoman could take out 6 level 3 sentry guns, you are sorely mistaken.
Even 2 would be hard pressed to get them all down plus the engies, and if a single one had the short circuit you'd be fucked.
>>342000113
It's the mode in general. Defense is too easy to win, a lot of changes will need to be implemented. Just had this game and we all played like shit just holding R2:
https://youtu.be/uRdcHEvgK6E
I'd say you shouldn't be able to pick a hero more than once in a team, akd maybe some heroes need to be bound to a mode or something. Also nerf turrets on console because Torbjorn is bullshit.
>>341999012
Not really. The shield is torn to shreds with turret + Torb also attacking.
>>342000410
Low range, many maps this is impossible.
>>342000454
Has to actually get the ult, and then not be instantly killed by Torb shooting her.
This big issue is that the turrets are easily replaced, quickly upgraded, and Torb's own gun is also fairly strong. Plenty of strategies for dealing with one or two Torbs. But not 3+. You're especcailly screwed if the they have a single Reinhardt or Widow on their side.
>>342001614
that moment when you hit your lvl 1 4 times and it gets shot from a DVA a mile away for 1 damage and your FULL SWING goes to repairing that 1 damage while the junkrat is on his way to shoot it down before you can react because it's a fucking level 1 that dies with a slow gust of wind.
>>342001501
at least he can beat torb
>>342001612
>>342001614
You do realize that level 2 turrets have more HP than most of the cast, right?
And killing a level 2 turret will likely take out a large chunk of your health whereas Toblerone can easily set up another one immediately.
>>342001713
Attacking is harder until you hit high levels of play and then its too easy to win. Uncoordinated teams have issues cracking a final defense point because of the nature of going in 1 by 1 or not coordinating, this goes full inverse at higher levels because all it takes is one good coordinated push/wipe to completely cap a 2nd point.
This game is horrifically imbalanced at all levels of play.
>>342001456
Man you are one scummy player I'll tell you that
>torb spam
Go Dva dipshits. If the enemy team spams a character, you spam the counter. Once you have 2 or 3 dvas dropping nukes, torb spam is over.
>>342001880
You heal 50 hp a swing, there are few things that Torb can outheal. They also take like 7 seconds to upgrade and that's if you don't have anyone shooting at you while you're trying to build it.
>>342001713
They didn't go winston for the easiest games of their lives. Her turrets even when there are a billion of them stand zero chance for a couple of monkeys causing trouble
>>342001986
>can't shoot while defense matrix is up
what's even the point
>>342001826
At least I can get laid.
>>342001880
My post was about sym turrets, not torbj buddy.
>Enemy team is 2 Bastion and 2 Torbjorn
Even if you beat them, they just make the match no fun allowed zone
>>342001931
Problem is also that they didn't counter like >>342002034 said, I was expecting to lose this because I was sure they'd switch to Winston but they kept rushing in with random heroes without thinking about how to counter the turrets.
>>342001614
>Die in two seconds
They have 300 health
But singularly Torbjorn is fine even with his bullshit aimbot. It's when he's stacked upon is when he becomes flat out broken. At least on defense.
>>342002010
>sticking on your turret when your main gun is as strong as it is
>not just MOLTEN COOREing when the enemy team comes to call
>>342002124
My bad, my point about >>342001614 still stands though.
Sentries are the ultimate casual filter, pretty much in any game
Torbjorn's shit isn't nowhere as strong as the Engineer in TF2 either, he's even easier to take out
>>341998461
just use junkrat. he owns scrubs like U
>>342002198
Mine was a general post about the flow of the game overall, not directed at your sym game. High MMR games favor the attacking team on cap maps so much it's not even funny. To the point where comp play doesn't even touch them.
>>341999721
>Do this
>Somehow still lose
Ill never know why or how
Is there a more satisfying weapon than torbs? something about the slow projectile speed, projectile drop and damage just feels so good.
Pick Dva and shield while your team shoots them.
This isn't even putting Torbs ult into account. The moment their team Senses a hint of a strong push they can just molten core and stop the push dead.
>>342002058
Literally everyone else can. Not something to be bragging about.
>>342002449
It'd be more satisfying if I didn't feel like I was shooting softballs at people instead of rivets. His gun is highly undervalued. Its probably too good.
>>341998461
Fight this plus Bastion all day. The key is to use Soldier 76.
His rockets + burst + heal are enough to take one sentry quickly and survive it.
>>342002394
Guessing this has to do with team composition. I often see games without Reinhardt or healers on the attacking side, which is a loss from the start.
>>342002221
300 health is nothing on a stationary target that does shit for damage and heals incredibly slowly.
>>341998461
5 Rienhardts+Lucio is an easy Team Torb killer
>>342001985
and why would that be, the most cancerous characters are at the bottom
>>342002525
>tfw 26yo kissless virgin
>>342002610
More to do with the mechanics of the game itself. It takes all of 8 seconds or some shit to cap a point if you have 3 people on it, so a wipe on the 2nd point for the defense is a lose 100% of the time, no reaction, no counter to it other than don't die. At lower mmr and shit yes, your statement stands, people can't composition or play as a team so defense stands a huge advantage because they spawn on the point so unless you wipe they just come back and defend it.
>>342002541
he shoots rivets? I thought it was like globs of molten steel.
>>342002732
29 here, you're not the most pathetic kv in the thread so chin up.
>>342001423
A kill zone is a zone in which you are much easier to be killed. When Symmetra sets up shop in a hallway, it becomes a zone that straight up kills you.
Yes, when you get caught in Junkrat's trap, you are more than likely to die, but somebody actively has to pull the trigger on you. Nobody has to touch you when Symmetra puts up sentries because they practically hold you in place in kill you on the spot.
There's a degree of fault on your art if you get caught in just about any other trap because you could have seen them ahead of time if you were watching where you were going. With Symmetra's sentries, you could be treading carefully and peaking around every corner to spot them but if you poke your head around the corner to check, odds are they will see you first and slow you down too much to back out and you die. Your only hope is to kill a few of them so your team doesn't suffer the same fate but depending on where the rest of them are, Symmetra could already have gone back in after you died and set them all back up. The amount of damage they do is fine but slowing you down is not because you have no chance to get out and reapproach the situation.
>>342002049
Even if D.Va could shoot while it was up, she'd still be garbage.
>>342002723
>that general chat
Way to go.
Posted in /owg/, looking for opinions here too
Besides Mercy (who I already play) which heroes have relatively low skill caps but have a high impact on matches? I'm an oldfag with shit reflexes so I can never play Widowmaker at an appreciable level, just looking to be useful and actually contribute to wins when I play with friends.
>>342002820
You're not pathetic!
>>341998461
You playing on console?
>>342002732
>>342002820
The hell are you two doing? There's 'dating' apps now. No excuses.
>>342002889
I don't even know what it does or who is in it
>>342002992
I'm an overweight jobless dude with an art degree and a man bun. There is no hope.
>>342002992
I'm a short ugly guy who lives with his mom and has no job. I really dont think girls want me.
>>342003063
>overweight
>jobless
Your fault
>art degree
At least you have a degree
>man bun
Cut that shit, please.
>>342002916
Reinhardt or any tank that isn't Zarya
Symmetra if you know where to position
Mei for counterpicking
>>342002807
Sounds like high mmr is pretty intense.
Doesn't that mean that people go for high offense exclusively to wipe a team and immediately take the zone though? Sounds like there's a set team for this.
>>342002916
Toblerone is pretty good, and while you might not land his M1 effectively, his M2 is really good for taking out targets close by.
Lucio is also really decent as his potshots have such a huge hitbox you will almost always hit people.
Winston/Reinhardt can also be fine as it's very easy to hit with their attacks and don't require too much reaction time.
Far as offensive characters go, your best bet might be Pharah, though her splash damage is so shit she mostly has to rely on direct hits to perform well.
>>342003063
At least you live in a country where Overwatch does not cost half of school teacher's month salary.
>tfw just got 4 gold medals
>as Lucio
>>341998461
It's hardly because of Torb himself,it's blizzard can't design maps for shit and so there's no way to avoid chokepoint clusterfucks.
>>342003338
Congrats on existing on the objective.
>>342003169
Yeah well art degree won't do you any good if people want 5 years of experience for drawing logos at a buck an hour. Also I'm balding and this bun is my final stand, it's already graying too at 29.
>>342002723
You play easy characters.
Characters that just sit back in safe area and rack up kills. The only front line character you play is roadhog and that's because if his massive health and ability to refill it mid battle.
And then you have mei. One if the most, if not, scummiest hero in the game.
You're just a coward that sits back and likes to pretend he's good because his auto aim got him 10 kills.
Fuck you.
Am I salty?
Pssht of course, who wouldn't be when you have assholesblike you ruining the esperience for everyone.
>>342003323
I think it was €70, €35 for me because ps4 gameshare. Please do this if you have a ps4 ajd a friend who has one too.
>>342002525
>/v/
Then Why dont you, friends?
>>342003140
Prostitutes dude prostitutes.
JUST
>>342002723
>76 and the tank are cancer
Wew
>>342003502
Fuck Mei. I play Pharah and if this bitch is in my team she constantly kills me by placing walls right in front of me.
>no one picks the russian pink hair to power up off all the turrets
It's like people haven't figured out the fire button on turrets is stuck.
>>342003557
I make 800$ a month and I'm rich as fuck compared to most of the people here, so I'll be fine.
It's just that every time i see someone living in US writing a rant like that I want to punch him in he face. You have this option to choose your profession mate, art degree can get you a decent job and you can even afford your own car. The only thing that art degree can get you here is a shitty appartment and a lack of meat in your food.
>>341998461
Just played against an all Torb team. Was Zenyatta, popped transcendence and got the whole team on the point and then we won.
>>342003309
There's not much Pharah can do against six Torbs alone. She can easily take a turret and a Torb idiotic enough to stand next to their turret like a doofus, but there are still going to be five others. 6 Torba basically makes it 12 vs 6
>>342003960
Read the post I was replying to, it had nothing to do with the 6 torbs.
>>342003887
I'm from the Netherlands.
Yeah there is work here, the problem is location based kind of. I live in the southern part which is pretty much dead jobwise, would have to go to Amsterdam or something to find something in the sector but fuck that area in general. Where do you live if you don't mind me asking?
>>341998709
This.
I killed Toblerone turrets with Mercy's pistol.
>>342000454
Thats a terrible idea, Pharah's ult has no range and we are assuming there are multiple toblerone turrets spread out, at least one s going to molten core during this. Tops you get one down
>>342004212
>Still thinking I have issues with Torb one on one.
I already said, Torbjorn isn't an issue if there's one or two.
>>342001702
Depends really. If they would be clustered together, one ubered demoman would be able to take them out with ease.
>>342002723
I've played against you a few times, you were kinda shit
>>341998461
>not using the ironforge strat on volskaya
>6 torbjorns on defense
>never leave the second point
>just let them take the first one and build defense on the second point
It's annoying for the other team, but it's so much fun to do.
>>342002838
The turrets have 1 hp just change to winston once and she needs almost 30~45 sec to get them all back up
>>342001456
>6 Hours Lucio is my most played
I don't even do anything with him, I just skate around the objective or be a cheap cunt on ilios.
>>342004145
Ukraine. Everything IT related pays reasonably well, if you're skilled middle or senior developer you'll live like a fucking king here. Other than that, it's always been pretty shitty here for common folk and only got shittier since 2014 for obvious reasons.
>>342004457
Maybe if the nest was in an enclosed area that the demo could attack without getting hit by much, but you're underestimating the knockback effect of 6 fucking sentries.
>>341999012
... reinhardt is specifically having problems with multiple tor/bastions, he is too short range. He can't get to them without dying if there are muldiple. His shield goes down too quick under that kind of fire.
>consolefags
try zarya if your team is too stupid to stop playing reaper and genji for 10 fucking seconds
>>342003338
is that suppose to be something special?
>>342004647
Move to the Netherlands, we need good people here.
Blizzard must do something against fuckers who leave to not lose and put you in their place.
Is there a range of view for the turret like with the engineers sentry?
>>342004907
As soon as I'll be able to move my ass and do something productive I'll try to jus Iceland and chill. Fuck videogames.
>>342005078
they get an exp penalty, and you don't get a loss on your record if you join a game late.
>>342001713
>nobody thought to take the cliff entrance with flying/dashing characters to circumvent all that shit entirely
>>342005249
Iceland yes. The true last bastion of comfy.
>>342001760
>The shield is torn to shreds with turret + Torb also attacking
Not really. The turret does really low dmg to the shield. By the time the turrets and torbs rip through it, your teammates attacking from behind you should have long cleared the place.
Bastion is the real shitter. He can rip through the shield in 3 seconds...
>>342002865
Nah She'd be pretty good if she could shot while it was up.
>>342005463
Yeah, but that entrance is largely unused in general. Almost seems like people don't explore maps.
>>342003338
I know you didnt get one in damage.
>>342003683
I hate Hanzo players. Literally cancer. All of them.
If you play Hanzo you should LITERALLY KILL YOURSELF
>>342004726
>he is too short range
You're not supposed to be attacking the turret you fucking turkey. You're supposed to be shielding your allies who are.
Jesus fuck it's like nobody understands that a tank is supposed to have a sense of teamwork
>>342003247
>any tank that isn't Zarya
What? How could you place Zarya below Dva and Winston when it comes to tank?
>>342006091
Because Zarya needs decent reaction time and the guy asked for simpler heroes.
>>342005765
What if i play hanzo on defense and only if we have no snipers?
Why is he so perfect?
>tfw bomb jumping at sanic speed and raining death from above
>get in a game with some players with stars under their name
>they're basically level 130, they've played so much
>>>>>>they're the worst players I've ever seen
>2 of them pick pharah and spend the entire match in the air
>the other picks Genji
>AND NONE OF THEM EVER SET FOOT ON THE POINT WE'RE ATTACKING
>one of them tells me she'll rain justice on my Zarya ult next time it's up
>say my ult is ready
>they say their ult is ready
>make sure they're right behind me, say "understood" then turn around and fire it on the point
>get 5 of the enemy team in it
>see pharah launch in the air and throw a barrier her way
>>>>they don't use it until mine is over and the enemy team is spread out
I just don't understand how someone who has played 3-4 times as much as me can be so much worse. Let alone 3 of the fuckers.
>>342006467
If you can actually get kills and not be a useless piece of shit, maybe.
I have only seen one good Hanzo player, ever.
>>341998461
Literally DVA. Her ult will kill all the turrets, then your team can swoop in and clean up.
>>342006689
It is even worse when you have Mei and you keep telling them your Ult is ready.
They should know you want them to group up with you and kill all the frozen enemies.
>>342006624
>>342006779I average around 15 kills a game with hanzo and dont just sit back and take pot shots from corners. I stay about 5-10 feet behind the line and try to pick off flankers and tanks with tri arrow
>>342007024
Then you are fine. I'm talking about the guy that picks Hanzo EVERY GAME, even though he sucks with him. Fucking annoying as shit.
>>341998461
Play shitty game get shitty results
>>342007024
>I average around 15 kills a game
yup, just like he said. only one good Hanzo player
>>342007176
Poorfag detected ;)
>>342006973
is that a druid
>>341998461
4 genjis
4 widow makers
4 Hanno
4 mercy
Get good
Why do high level players play like garbage?
>>342006779
>When you get killed by a Hanzo, only to see through the kill-cam that he killed you entirely by accident as he misses all of your team mates.
Having 4 friends with you all picking D.va is a good way of countering the turrets at least. Have fun killing the fucking midgets though
>>342005660I did. my team just sucked and we still lost.
>>342007390
This. If they're dedicating such a huge portion of their team to one strategy and your team can't do the same, then your team deserves to lose.
the range of the turret should be reduced Tbh
>>342007387
6goodZarya teams. You can't beat them. Impossiburu.
i think reinheart's ranged attack should do massive damage to machines. Only minor change i would make.
It would only affect bastion and torb turrents
>>342007594
counter for zarya teams isdecent reaper teams
it sounds crazy but it does work. Some zarya will always chase down a immortal reaper while other reapers attack from behind and they can hold their fire for bubbles to drop.
>>341998461
Zeny with Transcendence
Reinhardt for shield
Junkrat Genji maybe a Pharah
>>342007418
What's worse is his fucking anime shit garbage dragon he shits out. His fucking ult is so retarded.
Its almost always POTG.
>>342007594
Imagine a coordinated team of Zaryas where 5 of them play support and chain shields on the designated tank Zarya, literally making them invincible.
And you can't just sneak around and kill the supports because they're all fully charged Zaryas
>>342007512
It's bullshit that it can chip-off snipers. The whole point of snipers it to pick people off from a distance. Yet here is this fucking turret that can kill a Widowmaker before she can finish it off.
I think Blizzard did mostly everything right, but they should explain or reward people for switching and then doing good. They can reward switching and ending a killing spree for exemple. so sick of people staying with the same hero for the whole game, even with level 100+
Roadhog should be able to hook/relocate enemy turrets in to useless positions
>>342007460
What classes were they? I find that hard to believe unless you are god-tier.
>>342007901
Yeah I think you are right. It should be a good match to witness.
>>342007982
>Yet here is this fucking turret that can kill a Widowmaker before she can finish it off.
what
the gun does 14 damage a shot
>charge up
>peak around corner
>shoot turret for 150 damage
>repeat 1 more time if turret isn't getting healed, 2 more times if it is
>turret is dead
>you've only taken 40-60 damage, assuming it targeted you over your teammates
>>342008079
Would you be able to pull it into spawn? I can see a lot of things that could go wrong with this.
what if a torb turrentcould walk around on mechanical legs?
>be mercy
>attack on hollywood
>enemy says fuck it full torb
>team cant get past bullet wall
>follow a mcree who ended up in the back flank of the first point
>heal him up as he pops in an out of a corner to kill a turret on the lift
>Enemy notices this
>Midget army activate
>I switch from heal to damage increase back and fourth as that Mcree systematically starts wrecking torbs coming inches from death every few seconds
>It has become personal to the midgets
>never ending waterfall of angry manlet flesh.
>I dance around the back, flying to and away from Mcree as they try to murder me first but random Mcree is too quick to let em.
>Our team apparently makes a push while we are desperately trying to survive the munchkin revolution.
>we take the point
>systematically plow through every defence they try to set up on the way to a victory
That shit was intense and I thank god for that laser focus Mcree and all six of those bumblefuck torbs.
>>341998461
Get good at Reaper. You can teleport in out of their line of sight, round a corner to meatshot the turret twice to kill it, shift to phase out and escape, then rinse and repeat.
Simply keeping the toblerones busy is enough for a semi-competent team to make a push through to win.
Basically, they nerfed the wrong character. McCree's little instawin combo was annoying but at least it takes some element of skill and he's still vulnerable in all the other ways
Torbjorn on the other hand is bullshit. The turrets have 360 degree attack radius, insane range, and turn Pharah (one of the characters meant to take them out) into Swiss cheese before she can fire three rockets.
Even fully leveled up turrets in shit like Killzone can only attack in 45 degree angles of what's directly ahead of them. That you can't sneak behind one of Tor's turrets and attack it safely is just ridiculous. Not to mention that molten core makes the man himself really difficult to kill at all, forget his fucking turrets
If I play 10 games, id say 7/10 have Tor with the PotG.
D.Va buff when?
Seriously, her damage is completely shit you have to bail out at every engagement.
>>342008467
Good shit, would read again.
>>342008521
>McCree's little instawin combo takes some element of skill
who know that "not being a complete and total fuckup" was a skill
>>342008440
>turrent
>>342008324
No, because the turret would still be firing, potentially killing the one trying to hook it. It would mostly be for quickly dragging it out of a defensive point or over a ledge, leaving Tor either clueless as to why he isn't getting assists anymore or having to rebuild.
post em
>see turret
>peek from corner and shoot
>hide when it shoots back
>peek n shoot
>turret ded
wew
How about this idea? Torb turrents can not look up or down, only straight forward. It makes pharah able to counter them easier.
>>342007418
Hanzo is literally the most scummy hero in the game, there are no "good" Hanzos, only lucky ones.
>>342008695
I just meant in relation to setting a turret and watching the elims roll in
>>342008857
pharah can already counter them extremely easily if she has one ounce of awareness
>>342008884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVrkxK6-7Qo
>tfw my favorite hero because while she has low damage, has great synergy with a lot of heroes and can potentially turn the game around
>can't really play her to her full potential in random games because she requires teamwork
The one time I got randoms to work with me, did a 5 man wipe but Mercy tele'd in and rezzed everyone. I never felt such despair.
>>342009385
>Low damage
Max charge Zarya does 50 damage per second, her damage potential is through the roof.
>>342009202
I main Pharah but it's tough to counter turrets on console because controllers are shit. Turrets on pc are fine but on console they're too OP.
>>342009561
150*
>>342009385
>she requires teamwork
>>342003338
Objective time and healing done are guaranteed on Lucio, so you got eliminations and objective kills?
>>342009385
>She require teamwork
How can someone be so wrong.
>>342003338
>tfw 5 as soldier 76
A turret and bastion covering each other is way more gay desu
>>342008745
>>342010203
oops that's not what I meant to do I'm an idiot
>>342009385
>low damage
>requires teamwork
>>342010203
>windowed
why not borderless windowed?
all the benefits of fullscreen with none of the downsides
>>342010380
How about windowless bordered?
A Reinhardt with two or three Solider 76 and a Lucio or Mercy with Ult ready can break through the bullshit Torbjorn Fortress, that is assuming none of the Torbjorn's has Molten Core and your team knows how to coordinate
>people who main attack characters
>especially flankers like tracer or genji that can't stand on the objective for more than 2 seconds without dying
Absolutely disgusting
>>342008101
I've played games as reinhardt where I literally sat there blocking shots for my team so they could freely shoot the enemy team, and they missed EVERY SINGLE SHOT and I got gold medals just hammering anything that got too close. You underestimate how bad people are.
I'm a garbage shot too, its why I prefer characters where accuracy isn't a big deal, but there are people much worse than even me.
People who play as Reinhardt and stand in front of a Turret deserve to die. Thank god Symmetra's energy ball goes through his shield. It's a shame though though that Torbjorn can undo the damage in two swing of his hammer. Tbh they should go back to Torbjorn needing scrap to heal and build his Turret.
His turrets snap to target way to fast. They either need to nerf the range or nerf how fast they can snap
>>342003502
>sit back in safe area
If your playing Torb like that you're doing it wrong.
Your ass needs to be on the front lines his gun eats up tanks.
>>342009780
She really works best with a coordinated team. Yes, you can get by just self shielding. Yes, you can just RMB to get loadsakills with her ult against squishier teams, but its not really easy to do. Her ult works best with strong aoe damage ults from other heroes doing the majority of the damage, and its much easier to build her shield with other players fighting with you.
>>342010667
But tracer and genji can zip around while staying on point...Thats what they excell at
>>342001986
>Once you have 2 or 3 dvas dropping nukes, torb spam is over.
Yeah, I don't know about dva specifically, but the funny thing is full team shitters are VERY quick to drop their gimmick once you start pushing their shit in even a little. The lack of commitment is so sad.
>>342011238
My favorite part of playing symettra is when a mongoloid reinhardt player feeds me to my ult in 30 seconds
fucking hate reinhardt
>>341998461
stop playing on console. Problem fixed
>>342011374
They excel at getting behind enemy lines and killing snipers and supports. Yeah, they are really nice on Egypt and stuff where the enemy "line" is usually way off the point and you can break them completely by just dashing through, but only for those specific objectives where enemies form a line away from the point.
How will the meta ever evolve if Blizzard is too afraid to give characters new abilities and/or weapons?
>>342011628
It'll eventually turn into TF2 and then we'll have hat meta
Fun FACT
Even if you're the best player in the world you will some day somewhere literally randomly die from one of Hanzos scatter shots
>>342011750
No...that's not true...that's impossible!
![ca3[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/vxpKh2v.png "ca3[1].png")
> Playing a game last night on Hollywood - Attack
> Someone from the other team in game chat types "Welcome to the Harambe Memorial Overwatch Server"
> When the doors finally open we are met with 4 Winstons surrounding and meleeing a Lucio while a Widowmaker is shooting at them all
>half of the strats presented here will seriously not work on VOLSKAYA
>durr go widows/hanzo ->no line of sight
>Bounce junkrat nades-> too far away
>Dva ult-> turrets spread out/good luck getting charge
>flank with reaper/genji-> good luck taking down all 6 turrets that can be rebuilt in 7 secs with manlets ready to molten core
>pharah spam/ult->minimal line of sight/ youre gonna get shot down the moment you try to fly
only real way I see to to this is 2 rheins making a wall 3 pharahs folowing and a healer even then it's gonna be hard fought cause of 6 molten cored dwarves if you don't take out the turrets fast enough they will shred you at distance, if u get close enough youre gonna get shotgunned.
if they mix in bastions to shred sheilds or a half decent widow youre gonna have a bad time
>be torb
>turret targets wraith form Reaper and people with Zarya shield on when their entire team is pushing
suffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLcOo8mFeUk
I dunno guys. Shit looks dumb
>>341998461
I wonder if Torb worked for Saab in the past.
>>342011750
Simple geometry
>>342013363
>consolefags
>>342014724
It doesn't change how dumb the turrets can be aiming wise
Try to contribute more next time
>>342013363
>D.Va player
That turret is doing's Kami-sama's work senpai.
>>342003832
I've tried this. What happens is you get a good charge of your personal shield and and do some damage to the turret. Then the entire enemy team drops on you as soon as your shield drops, you die instantly, and none of your teammates even try to support (wouldn't want to give you any targets for your e now would we) because they might die and dying is icky.
>consolefags
