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You didn't preorder the shitty reference 1080, right?
References are certainly inferior but to call it shitty is a bit too neo/v/, even for me.
It seems to be a pretty solid piece of hardware, even when you buy vanilla.
I'm holding out though.
>pre-order a fucking GPU
Why? You're just asking to get fucked in the ass.
>>339053104
>those lights
JUST
Probably going to replace my 770 with a 980 when the price drops.
>buying new cards when games havent improved in years
>>339053104
OH SHIT IT GOT NEONS
DON'T FORGET TO SET THEM ON BLUE FOR COOL TEMPS
MSI when?
Is an r9 380 decent?
>>339053407
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-cards/#?category=NVIDIA-GeForce%3Csup%3E%26reg%3B%3C%2Fsup%3E-1000-Series
>>339053610
Sexy
>>339053470
480 soon
>>339053470
lots of complaints about it on leddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4l4u23/amd_r9_380_when_will_we_get_a_dx11_fix_almost_a/
>>339053180
b-but muh hair physics
>>339052901
Whats the real difference between Armor and Gaming X? They have the same number of blades, probably the same heatsink. Only thing I can think of would be OCing, but you would need watercooling for that.
>>339053104
>colors differ depending on your mood
>>339053987
Just looked it up. Besides the size, the only different thing is clock speed with about 120hz difference.
Any Asus yet?
>>339052850
AMD plz
>>339052850
Waiting for the stupid long Gigabyte version.
>>339054437
>>339052850
God no. The only people that should are computer tech youtubers/reviewers.
>>339054592
o shit waddup: >>339054695
>>339054613
>rgb
Fuck.
>but we gotta drive the price up, goddamit!
So I'm finally building a PC this summer and I was wondering how soon after the 1080 and 1070 coming out would the 970 get a price drop, because that's the card I was planning on getting?
>>339052850
>paying extra for OC that you can do yourself with a fee program
>>339054958
the cooling on the aftermarket cards is often better.
>>339054958
I like my EVGA 980ti because the fans dont come on until 50C
>>339054958
Yeah but if you oc that reference card it's going to thermal throttle. Dunno why nvidia bother putting that peice of shit blower on there when there's cheerper and better alternatives.
If I have no intention of overclocking, would the regular card be sufficient?
Also, about how much would somebody pay for a 770 4GB that's been in use for two years? Less than a hundred, I'm guessing?
>>339054958
>OCing a reference card
>>339055106
>>339055224
Cooling yes, I was more referring to the massive SUPERCLOCKED bullshit on the EVGA box in OP's pic.
Buy the aftermarket base model with the better fan then OC it yourself.
>>339054883
Be prepared to wait a year, only to wait another year cause the 1070 price will drop.
>>339053367
I like em red cause it makes it go into overdrive and enhances performance.
>>339055554
I see. I prefer the yellow ones.
>>339052850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ePLtROm6I
no throttling even with 2.1ghz oc
based evga
The non reference cards are already available then?
>unironically buying this before any decent reviews are out
I know the first reviews are out but I don't trust them, I'd wait at least till August or something before deciding. Then again I'm personally going to skip this generation anyway.
>>339052850
>nvidia
>>339055495
The chips selected for a pre-OC'd card have better chance of staying stable at a higher clock rate
>>339055254
I sold my 570 last year for $100 so im assuming you could get $150 now for your card
>>339055936
>Vidya
>>339053470
I have a 4GB 380 that I got last year. I don't have any problems with it.
>>339052850
nah, considering i'm still stuck on a shitty laptop.
and when i build a desktop i'll probably get something like a R9 380 instead unless stuff like GTX 970 get price drops
how much is the MSI card
>>339056273
nvidia for rich people
amd for true gamers
>>339052901
Gonna buy that Sea Hawk if it's reviews are good. I love the clean look black and white give and I can't stand the edgy hardcore black and red shit all the "le hardcore gamer" shit ends up being.
>>339056843
Why does the physical appearance of a piece of hardware sealed in a metal box hidden behind your desk matter
>>339056667
nvidia for people who work
amd for pirate fags
>>339056520
934 euros for me kek
>>339056939
For the same reason people buy designer socks. Style points are the only points.
Been out of the loop for a long time, just built a new pc and got myself a 4gb GTX 980, then heard about these cards afterwards...did I just fuck up bigtime?
Bare in mind I only really play games at 1080 anyway.
>>339057408
No, you're fine.
980 will do the job for you at 1080 for awhile
I am a 970 and the "3.5 incident" hurts me pretty great. Don't get me wrong, the card runs great, I can run most modern games on ultra setting no problem.
But the point is I'm running dual monitors, and it's pretty easy to kick 970 to its "limit" while running both monitor at the same time. I can get Witcher 3 to run at full fps if it's the only problem running, but from rate drops to 30 or even worse if I got YouTube playing musics on the second monitor.
I am at the edge of upgrade, but I'm not sure if 1080 is a waste of money at this point. The specs for 1080 sounds like overkill in 2016. Should I wait for 1070 to see if this is a better alternative, or should I go for 1080 now?
Y'all niggaa should wait for Polaris, if not for AMDs stuff, then for Nvidia if they drop prices to compete.
Remember, with dx12 and vulkan, as long as devekopers are competent in using the new APIs, there wont be any drivers for AMD to fuck up.
>>339053217
>phoenix
Yeah, because when it bursts into flames it'll be like a phoenix was born from ashes.
I'm going to moving up to 1440p later this year, will my 970 still cut it at that resolution?
WHERE ARE THE MSI PRICES
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339053610
Mmmmm that looks nice.. plus it's red hexagon matches my case..
>>339058405
>you should wait for polaris
>you should wait for aftermarket
>you should wait for next gen
>you should wait for next gen aftermarket
Nah
>>339058596
I found UK prices but no $ prices yet.
>not waiting for a the 1080ti
>>339057882
yeah same setup here
if i play anything and run anything on my 2nd display, like a 1080p youtube video or a twitch stream on source quality does diminish my performance on my game
>2016
>we still have to use fans everywhere
1070 aftermarket when?
Need to upgrade fromr9 390
>>339054098
>Colours differ based on your in-game health.
I simply cannot wait to upgrade. I'm running a 560ti.
Gonna get a 1080 then use the 560ti as a dedicated physx card.
Also, I only game at 1080p. Fight me.
>>339052850
>not waiting for the 1080 ti
Have you guys learned nothing. The ti will shit all over the 1080. If you buy the 1080 you are a shit consumer. Go with 1070 or 1080 ti. Do not be a retard.
>>339059067
What cpu, anon?
What's the point
1080 is only useful at 1440p (preferably several monitors) or higher in the most graphically demanding games at the very highest settings
anythign else and you're wasting your money
It's way overkill for almost anyone desu
>still no single card that can do 4K @ 60fps
>>339058623
No. You should wait a single month for both companies to show their hands
>$920 in the UK
>>339059128
>not waiting for the 1090
Have you guys learned nothing. The 1090 will shit all over the 1080 ti. If you buy the 1080 ti you are a shit consumer. Go with 1090. Do not be a retard.
>>339059281
Feels Fucking terrible man.
Still gonna buy it.
>>339059015
>colors differ based on how long you've been playing as a safety feature
>10 mins
>green
>17 mins
>yellow
>25 mins
>red and automatic artifacting
>>339059067
>buying the best card available when you're gaming at 1080p
I bet you play wow 24/7 too
fuck i hate casuals
>>339059319
>not waiting for the 1180
Have you guys learned nothing. The 1180 will shit all over the 1090. If you buy the 1090 you are a shit consumer. Go with 1180. Do not be a retard.
>>339054770
It's actually one of the cheaper custom pcb cards. 619 for non OCd and 640 for OCd (highest confirmed boost clock as well).
>>339054770
>drive the price up
it's cheaper than reference lol
going for amd lads
I wanna support the underdog even if it means worse performance
if amd goes under nvidia cards will cost double if not more
I'll wait for the hybrid version of EVGA's card.
I hope it has additional power phases, but they usually use reference PCB, so I'm not holding my breath.
My 980ti will hit 84c under load, and I'm tired of it.
>>339059454
Nope, I just don't care. I'm currently playing Company of Heroes. Gonna start a new game of Witcher 3. I buy all multiplats on PC for muhgraphix. Again, I simply don't care. Fight me.
>>339052850
>not waiting for a ti
people don't seriously buy non ti cards, do they?
>>339052850
I'll just get a used 970 and a PS4 thankyou
>>339060110
Yep, casual confirmed. God I hate casuals.
>>339060038
it wouldnt surprise me if nvidia themselves prop up amd somehow.
If AMD goes nvidia might get slapped with a monopoly case. Would be cheaper to just give amd money to stay in the game.
>>339059497
Ill just fastforward if you dont mind.
>not waiting for the 1590ti
Havent you guys learnt anything?
>>339059393
kek
>>339060191
You'd have a point if Ti versions only costed a little bit more than standard
>>339060267
>not just picking up the 2080 when the 2580ti comes out
>who /waiting-for-the-1070/ here?
It'll be my first high-end card.
>pre-ordering hardware
What's wrong with reference cards?
>>339054883
the 1070 is like 50-100 more than the 970, you're shooting yourself in the foot if you don't just go with the 1070 anyways.
>>339060225
What about Company of Heroes is casual?
>>339052850
>No HBM to rush release
>Nerfed card
>10% performance increase over 980ti
>>339052970
not being able to maintain boost is pretty shitty to me. or do you want to let your 1080 work at 1600mhz all the time?
>>339052850
I am waiting 6 months for user reviews to filter out the shitty OC hardware and coil whine problems.
Fell for the "Gigabyte is good" meme when the 660 came out and bought the SUPER ULTRACLOCKED version that could NOT stop crashing because of a voltage issue they refused to acknowledge or fix, then a new version of the card showed up 2 months later.
Never buying Gigabyte again or trusting review sites until there is actual data backing a card as good.
>>339061179
>trusting review sites
Better lurk overclocking forums and such.
>>339052850
>You didn't preorder the shitty reference 1080, right?
Of course not. I plan on using my 660 till it dies.
>>339061795
Same but have 6870. It's been rock solid for me. It plus sandy bridge has carried me the last five years. Negligible amount of bluescreens.
I always wanted to play max modded Skyrim though. Need a card with at least 4gb ram for that. Someday.
>>339060038
>buying amd so the rest of us get a better price
you're doing god's work anon.
>>339053180
Games are getting more and more unoptimized though.
>>339052850
>still have a 680
>don't install the gimp drivers because my old ass driver still works perfectly fine
>still runs every game at 60 but might have to turn off some retarded, unnecessary, barely noticeable effects
i want to upgrade. maybe i'll buy a 1440 high refresh rate monitor one of these daysor vr
How does the 1070 compare to the 980ti?
>>339060239
i don't know if i imagined it or not but i think i remember reading a long ass time ago that intel gave amd support to keep them making processors so they wouldn't be a monopoly.
980 ti price drop when
can't afford 950$ msi 1080 kek
>>339062993
I remember reading it as well but I cant for the life of me find where I read it.
>>339052850
So what's the price range on aftermarket? I'm seeing people say 630-699$.
>>339063058
Just get a 1070. Better than a 980ti and it'll be cheaper than a 980ti even if it gets a pricedrop
>>339059497
>ever buying anything
>not just waiting
There will always be something better coming out soon, guys. Just wait, hold onto your 560tis.
>>339053180
>buying old gen models from nvidia
You'll get cucked when they release their drivers and gimmicks to make their new cards look better and gimp AMD's cards even if it busts their older card performance too
>>339063381
I hate this maymay.
>£620
£620
>£620
£620
>£620
£620
>buying gimped cards
HBM2 GPUs will be far better
>699$ us
>790 € eu
wat
>>339063595
this
waiting for 1180
>>339063595
>hbm2 will be cheap and availbe in 2016
ok kid
>>339063746
>2016
who cares
>>339063746
AMDs new cards, out in the next few months, are using HBM2.
>>339062618
Amd cards often give good performance for the price.
>>339064053
I doubt that
Probably going to go for AMD desu. I'd feel dirty buying Nvidia this time around given how much they fuck with shit.
>Buying a GPU where you need to have the fans on 80% so the clocks speeds don't throttle
kek
>>339064053
>next few months
try end of 2016
>>339064053
nope, not until Vega
http://www.techpowerup.com/220892/amd-unveils-gpu-architecture-roadmap-polaris-to-skip-hbm2-memory
>>339053610
Holy shit, I'm not even sure that's going to fit in my case.
>>339064087
not saying they don't. nvidia usually offers the card that performs the best.
>>339064232
Why? They used HBM almost a year ago.
whats the point in getting a 700 bucks GPU?, there wont be games good enough to justify the price in at least 4 more years.
>>339064053
>HBM2
While youre busy spouting buzzwords, go ahead and link data that shows HBM2 is the path to beating nvidia.
Because it's the same as saying VTEC in your shitty civic makes it faster than other cars.
>>339060487
waiting for 1080 ti / new titan rape edition
>>339063595
>HBM2
>implying those letters mean anything to me
>>339064507
resolutions higher than 1080p, 21:9 and so on
>>339060487
>gtx X70
>high-end card
it's a mid level enthusiast card m8
>>339064507
HD+ resolutions
multi-monitor
mods
stopgap to compensate for unoptimized console ports
>>339064414
>url doesn't include the ? that is at the end of the headline
got me
>>339064631
>mid level enthusiast card
no that title goes to the x60
x70 and x80 are definitely high-end
titan and x80ti are "enthusiast" since price isn't even a consideration
>>339064425
Yeah they do, but do you really need the best performance?
>>339052850
> Pre-order
What am I, some sort of degenerate now?
>>339064816
considering AMD's own marketing material doesn't tout HBM2 until Vega I'd say it's as good as confirmed
also
>what is a rhetorical question
keep that autism in check, friendo
I'm currently running a 770.
Is it worth it to upgrade to the 1080? Or should I wait for 980s or 970s to go on sale?
>tfw Canadian 980s are still $600+
J U S T
U
S
T
>>339063508
You only hate it because you know its true, AMD may be worse in performance but their cards hold up better
>>339062843
>>don't install the gimp drivers because my old ass driver still works perfectly fine
New drivers don't gimp, you dofus. They don't optimize either, but don't gimp
>>339065096
that's what you get for being a communist
>>339054883
The 970 is a piece of shit
>>339065039
it was just a jokey shitpost bruh. might want to get yourself checked.
>>339065096
1080 is $900 without tax in Canadaland lul
>>339060487
Waiting to see if 1070 will have any fuckery
If it's just fine and ends up being 400-500€ where I live, I might just be upgrading from my 760.
>>339065096
If you absolutely can't live with lowering the settings a bit on the most demanding games, yes, get the 1080. IE if youre a dumbass with more money than sense.
>>339065282
>just pretending
whatever you say
>>339064997
yeah, because i've got a good job and like nice things. having a $2k+ pc when i sit in front of the fucking thing for 40 or more hours a week isn't that bad a of a deal for me.
>>339064630
>>339064765
still thats a little too high for only a couple of cosmetic stuff, dont want to start shit but I preffer paying 400 bucks for a console that will get the job done.
I want to upgrade from my toaster, but I have no idea how longprebuiltswith 1080s will be sold. Will it be worth the wait?
>>339065378
>dumbass with more money than sense
that title belongs to anyone buying a gimped titan this gen
Going from a 7950 to this is a good idea right?
>>339065449
keep fighting the good fight of correcting teenagers on a board of technological illiterates. i'll remember no fun allowed for future shitposting threads.
>>339065501
that's fine
I prefer not to lower my standards and expectations until they're already met
>>339060038
I bought my first AMD card last year. It's suppose to be quiet, but it's louder than my 560 Ti going full speed.
I'm not sure if I want to go with AMD again if their cards are loud.
>>339052850
ordering crippled 1080 instead of full 1080Ti, which will cost like 100dollar more. When will you faggots learn?
>>339065552
>Will it be worth the wait?
no, build your own
>>339065694
i can't hear my 7870, but then I have mine in a case under my desk
>>339065141
>doesn't like the meme reason for driver updates
>doesn't like the actual reason for driver updates
i don't know how to respond anon
>>339065694
Not a fan of XFX desu, tho my 7900GT was really good until it fried
No brand is "loud" per se, it all depends on what cooler it has
>>339065818
I have it under my computer too and I can still hear it with my headphones on. It's ridiculous.
>>339065552
>prebuilt
Jesus fuck build it yourself or if you think you're so stupid that you can't follow simple instructions, pay some tens of dollars/euros to the place you buy from to build it and test it for you
>>339066207
>I can still hear it with my headphones on
post speccy with temps
>>339065694
I used to have a single fan XFX 7870 and it ran ridiculously loud and was hot as fuck. Then I installed an aftermarket cooler and the temps dropped by 30C and it was really quiet.
>>339065294
In Chile is at 1.160 US dollars
>>339059319
That guy is absolutely right though, there is almost no reason to buy the x80 in a series of nVidia graphics card because the x80ti will be way better and only a few months afterwards. I would buy EVGA if I were getting an x80 and hope that the ti comes out within the window.
>>339066363
This is my card running Divinity. If I had a more intensive game running, it would be louder and hotter.
>>339066962
Forget AMD. They are loud as fuck. Had one myself its insane loud. Never again.
Considering the benchmarks I've seen on the 1080 in 4K, it's worth the money. Solid 60fps in every game tested.
SLI Titans have a hard time doing this.
>>339066962
looks like you lost the silicon lottery
>>339067140
>Solid 60fps in every game tested.
must not have used very demanding games then
pretty much everyone agrees that there still isn't a single-card 4K solution
Hope they sell only a few of 1080 cards.
If the demand is not high, the 1070 card should be cheaper.
Thats the only reason they did not announce the price for 1070. They first wanted to see how much of you suckers fall for 950$ and then price the 1070 accordingly
>>339057228
>tfw
>>339067381
how could one post be so wrong
1080 sold out in minutes
1070 price was already announced
>>339067381
Can't wait for the 1080 ti and everyone crying.
>>339067097
I'm not a fanboy of any brands. I just don't want loud cards. If I could get a AMD card that was quiet, I'd be happy.
Sapphire has cards that are suppose to be quiet, but they cost just as much Nvidia cards.
>>339067501
>buying gimped cards
they already announced no full-Pascal chips
even the Tesla P100 is gimped lol
12gb please, also the 1080s have a high markup right now...
12gb. Please I need to run 12k.
>>339065820
I'm not sure I understand what is your point
I can probably coast along on my 390 for a few more years.
Anyone know how well the card OCs?
>>339067643
>1080s have a high markup right now
only the "founders" editions
>>339067381
that's a lucky guy
>>339067751
if only there were hundreds of websites dedicated to testing video cards and other computer hardware
>>339067693
my point being wtf do you think driver updates are for?
I'm a complete newfag when it comes to computers, but the 1080 is an NVIDIA card, right?
Why are there different companies associated with the 1080? Like Zotac and msi? Is this like a steam console thing, where each company has their own 1080, provided to them by NVIDIA?
>>339053104
why the fuck would they change the sexy ACX coolers for this gaymur shit
>>339068112
>Is this like a steam console thing, where each company has their own 1080, provided to them by NVIDIA?
yes, except the whole "Steam console" is just a name license, whereas Nvidia actually makes the chips.
>>339068112
>spiderman
>underage level question
>>>/b/
>>339067945
To optimize and fix potential issues with the current software applications. Maybe current drivers can fix the serious issues, but Nvidia doesn't optimize for older architectures for shit. I haven't seen any improvement in FPS whatsoever for years. I haven't seen the drops either: I even installed older drivers to check whether meme is real or not. It's not
>>339067281
Optimized crossfire games on a 295x2 or the double 390 card from power color are as close as you are going to get to a single card 4k solution.
I play in 3k (5760x1080) using a 295x2, was also able to run games at 4k (3840x2160) but in the end the 4gb per GPU is its weak point.
With Vulcan on the horizon there will be GPU wars still. But the 1080 needs more VRAM than 8gb....
>>339068291
Don't even reply to people like that. They don't deserve a response.
>>339068291
>being this much of an underage elitist
>on /v/ of all places
>not linking >>>/g/54765892
I only see one obvious underage here
>>339067852
I'm sorry, I was more asking about personal experience.Have a nice day.
>>339068558
>sending absolute retards to a non containment board
>underage elitist
i don't even know what you're implying here
i'd rather not.not that /v/ isn't a containment board or anything
>>339068382
sorry, meant to say single-chip instead of single card
you're absolutely right, though, 4-8GB is way too small a pool to draw from for 4K at 60+
I think the hope is that HBM will negate the need for such high VRAM requirements, but things like mods will always require more memory
The 1080/1070 cards are finally ushering in the death of 1080p 60hz monitors
If you buy these cards and don't have either a 1080p 144hz, 1440p 60/144hz, or 4K monitor you are wasting the potential of these cards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ePLtROm6I
>>339053180
guarantee you're going to run into vram problems real soon since the 1000 series have 8gb of vram. suddenly newer games are going to require 6gb of vram even though the games look the fucking same.
>Buying anything that's not Asus
how do you live with yourself?
>>339069053
for what purpose.
>>339069021
If you are playing at 1080 you are just wasting money... This card is made to specifically address resolutions larger than 1k and also to take advantage of high refresh rates.
Your 980 970 780s will still be more than ok for 1080 60hz
1070 is piss cheap. Why the actual fuck would anyone buy a 970/980/098ti/titan when that is coming out?
>>339062770
You realize more power doesn't help, right? Gta4 still runs like shit on my 980ti
>>339069508
Runs 60fps with minimal dips on my 770 even using real enb and maxing most things.
>>339069508
Civ 4 runs like shit too on big maps with lots of things going on.
>>339069474
Because /v/ is full of NEETs for who $10 makes a huge difference
>>339069119
i unironically love asus mobos, monitors (despite the shit qa), and even my cd drives but i have some phobia of buying an asus video card.
>>339069508
>>339069625
>i3 or amd processors
>b-b-but they said the gpu was all that was important
>>339069808
You're making a false assumption.
>>339052850
I didn't preorder it because it's overkill or 1080p. The new AMD line up will release a R9 390 follower with lower watt usage for the same price. And that will be more than enough for 1080p.
Enjoy your GTX 1080, it's probably only good for 1440p or 4k
>>339058871
>all these people getting absolutely cucked by Nvidia marketing
>$600 for barely better than 980ti performance
g-good goyim!!
>>339056667
>le true gamers
>>339069617
What resolution?
>>339056667
>nvidia = more than 1 toilet per shantytown
>amd = shitting in the street
>>339059454
>buying the best card available when you're gaming at 1080p
i can guarantee you there are games the gtx 1080 cannot run at a CONSISTENT 60fps at 1080p.
as in FPS never drops below 60. i guarantee it. i've no fucking clue why retards have been claiming for the past few years that the gtx X80 cards are too good for 1080p because that's compelte bullshit.
>>339069982
Even better since it guarantees that you won't have to change cards for the next 3-5 years since 4k has become a meme.
>>339070723
What games would that be
>>339069617
on 640x480 maybe
>>339069169
greed and laziness
>>339055673
FUCKING MADMAN
I like green because I am saving the Earth and shit.
>>339060378
I bought the 3080, I should had waited
>>339060487
>waiting for x70 cuckery
>>339060487
>waiting for 7GB+1GB
Waiting for Ti
>1070
>150W
Hold up
>smacks lips
You be sayin
>Checks 550 PSU
That I can play them games with my current PSU?
Shiiiiiet.
>>339069119
>buying asus graphics cards
how do you live with that artifacting?
>>339069508
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/12210/discussions/0/611696927908368911/
>average /v/ users troubleshooting ability
google is hard guys
>>339057408
Honestly, a 980 is probably overkill for 1080p at 60hz. A 960 or R9 380 or 380x would be plenty to run modern games maxed out. Unless you want to do VR meme-goggles or higher resolutions/framerate, you already spent too much.
>>339073089
What does that have to do with what I said?
>Buying a NVIDIA high end card at release
>Not waiting for the TI version that will shit all over it
KeK
>>339052970
>Worse than aftermarket cards that COST LESS MONEY
That is shitty.
>>339074037
because it seems to be a software bug with the game that has issues with cards with over 2gb memory and there's an easy fix for it. or were you just pretending to be retarded to make a point?
What's the best brand /v/? I got an MSI now, can't decide what to get when I upgrade.
>>339061926
I just upgraded to a 960. I can max out skyrim with 30+ mods. The card was $170. If you have a job, you can upgrade for pretty cheap. Hope you're not living that NEET life, anon.
How is this even possible? 120 fps on 4k? Does SLI really improve performance that much?
>>339074458
I will be getting another MSI personally, never had a problem with them.
>>339074241
>not understanding it's completely relative and depends on how long of an upgrade cycle you're interested in
>>339074458
had evga since my 8800gts never had a problem so always just kept using them. even my 680 with a reference cooler is alright if not a bit loud. the x whatever software kind of blows though.
>>339074587
Someone convince me not to go full retard.
>>339055983
Chips are only binned like that for the custom PCB cards. Border partners do not bin chips for the shitty 'pay $20 extra for a tiny boost in baseclock over reference' cards.
>>339074575
I got a job. I'm just holding out as long as I can, I guess. Before upgrading. I like to get maximum value.
My next rig will probably be water cooled. Always wanted to do that. And that's several hundred dollars more.
>>339074879
look up the prices for a 4k monitor that will do 120hzi assume they're outlandish since the 1440p 144hz with gsync is like 600 min
>>339074897
I thought almost every aftermarket card uses a custom PCB
GTX 950M or GTX 960M? Is 960 worth the price increase with an i7?
>>339074458
Stick with msi I guess, I never hear anything too bad about them.
Or if you're a top notch memer you could always get a zotac just so you can say your computer has a zotac in it
>>339075083
I actually convinced myself not to when I saw it was DX11, so eh.
I'm sure a single 1080 will still be fine for a 1440p monitor anyways.
>>339074587
Depends on the game, but the 1080 uses a new higher bandwidth sli bridge which seems to improve sli performance as well.
>>339075260
Nope. Most cards are just the reference card with a new cooler on it. The only custom PCB cards are the ones that add a decent amount to the price like the Classified, Kingpin and shit like that cards.
Explain this to me like I'm a retarded mother fucker, which I might as well be.
Why are GPU like 100€-200€ more expensive in EU region than they are in US.
Is it related to that good old $==€ bullshit? but I heard it happens with pounds as well, right?
>>339053217
>Gainward
Literally Who?
>>339075593
tariffs and taxes
>>339075593
Cultural enrichment tax
waiting for 1080ti with HBM
thatll last me another 3-4 years
>people going crazing for an expensive video card and buying it right away
whats the fucking point? no game is going to take full advantage of it.
do you really care that much to play some fucking old console game that was just recently ported to the PC and be able to play it at 4k resolution?
hell, im sure almost nobody here actually owns a 4k monitor.
>inb4 some poorfag comment
>>339053180
NEVER EVER buy an old Nvidia card. They don't gimp their older cards but they heavily optimize games for their newer architectures.
Get the latest Nvidia or AMD that's on the market.
>>339057882
1080 is not overkill, an overclocked Titan or 980Ti is neck and neck with it. Get a AIB 1080 or 1070, depends on how much power you really need.
>>339069021
Nah, My 980Ti barely maxes out Witcher 3 at 1080p 60Hz, without vsync it stays in the 70s.
>>339075997
>he plays at 1080p max
>he plays at 60 fps max
>no one has a 4k monitor so everyone has a 1080 when 1440 exists
barely anyone here plays video games but i don't see that stopping anyone from shitposting about them nonstop.
>>339060487
>I can't wait to buy this card, its so good from what marketers tell me!
>Price will most likely not be affordable for 90% of the people hoping to buy this card.
Every Nvidia release EVER.
>>339064631
X70 isn't enthusiast.
X50 is budget
X60 is mid level
X70 is low high end
X80 is high end
Titan/X80ti is enthusiast
>>339060487
Not after 970, fuck that shit. I'll jump for the 1080 and leave it at that. Don't care about the minor tweak the Ti will get.
>>339053610
price?
>>339069021
1080p 60hz is already outdated junk. You can run 1440p at more than 60Hz on a 970 3.5 meme card.
>tfw 770 and still can't see myself upgrading
970 now or 1070 later?
The 970 isn't going to drop by much anytime soon is it?
>>339056273
this guy makes 20k$/month :|
>>339078292
Don't buy 3.5GB in 2016, it's not worth it
>>339078294
>and you can too! click here to find out how.
>>339061163
Are you talking about that screenshot that showed the fan was only running at 48% @ 80c?
>>339074362
I'm not talking about the game not recognizing higher than 2 gig cards
>>339078340
>it's not worth it
Explain further
>>339078532
>>339069508
>Gta4 still runs like shit on my 980ti
>well here is why. you should have googled a fix for this.
>b-b-but what does that have to do with anything.
apparently i'm too retarded to understand wtf you're talking about then so i'll just stop responding.
>>339052850
do you guys even play games or just compare graphics cards instead of dick size?
>>339078696
Games are starting to use more VRAM. Shadow of Mordor and new doom already have settings that require 6GB or more VRAM. The 970's VRAM will cockblock you as more graphically intensive games come out.
>>339078856
>not comparing dick sizes
don't tell me you're under 6 inches anon
>>339059183
I want 60hz plebs to leave this site forever.
>>339078221
>970 for 5 months and hitching to upgrade
Before people start jumping into my asshole, I bought it knowing pascal was coming. I'll be able to resell it anyway.
Any good site that reviews these things so I can get an idea about which one to get, or at the very least which versions to avoid?
>>339078950
Have you actually looked at the nightmare setting vs ultra in Doom? Have you actually looked at the ultra textures in SoM? There's barely any difference except the VRAM requirement skyrockets.
And that's just two games. I can't in good faith tell the previous poster that it's not worth getting a 970 for those reasons. There are plenty of other reasons why I wouldn't get a 970, but this VRAM meme still isn't even close to being a legitimate concern in 2016.
>>339069429
>Your 980 970 780s will still be more than ok for 1080 60hz
He didn't say they wouldn't be, reread the fucking post
>>339075281
Please respond
>>339079920
don't buy gaming laptops
>>339078078
For most games, but not all games. Fallout 4 at max settings runs 20-40fps on my 1440p monitor.
>>339079973
fair enough
>>339079528
>I'll be able to resell it anyway
>>339079528
Do you know how many people will be dumping their 970s with the broken memory?
The market's going to be flooded with them, so good luck getting any real money from it
You better sell it soon because it's losing value every day
>EVGA
>MSI
>GIGABYTE
>ASUS
>ZOTAC
>PNY
Which brand generally offers the best after market GPU?
>>339080993
MSI and Gigabyte
>>339080993
I usually buy XFX because they have a double lifetime warranty. Dropped EVGA because some 5 years ago the caps on my card popped a month after the 2-year warranty was up.
Do the fans on the 10 series of cards stop spinning when at low temps like the 900 series?
>>339076196
Bullshit. My shitty AMD 380x pushes 55+ on a mix of high/ultra settings. No way your 980ti "Barely" maxes out that game.
>>339057408
>IM A LAZY NIGGER
>PLEASE SPOON FEED ME ALL THIS EASILY GOOGLE-ABLE INFORMATION
>>339081708
that post was literally 5 hours ago amigo. relax that autism.
>>339053987
Fan placement and heatsink size maybe
>>339078078
>1080p 60hz is already outdated junk
Oh please. Ever since "HD" exploded, the constant push for higher resolutions in games has been completely retarded, especially when you have people complaining about stuff being "unoptimized" and "barely looking different" in this thread. Fuck you assholes for making it impossible to find a replacement 1680x1050 monitor these days.
>>339082689
wtf are you even complaining about. just progress in general and defending lazy devs?
>>339082689
1440p looks noticeably better than 1080p, it's not retarded at all.
>>339083237
devs are not "lazy" for not making their games run well at 4k resolutions
4k is a great resolution for a desktop workspace, it is a retarded resolution for gaming and is pure dickwave territory. It's useful as a benchmark but to say 1080p is "outdated junk" is extreme faggotry.
>>339083609
you're a pretty impressive faggot even for this board.
>700 didgeridoos for a card to play Undertale in 4k 120fps
>>339082689
Resolution is a huge deal, 4k is fucking beautiful compared to 1080, even 1440 is a big improvement. I'd rather have higher res than some shitty AA or filter hogging resources. 1080 looks shrunken and blurry in comparison, it's like going back to 640x480.
>>339083876
>Not wanting to run Total Warhammer in 4k
Take a look at this cumgobbler.
>>339083876
In 4k 120fps Undertale gets real graphics and gameplay
Refresh Rate > Resolution
>>339084263
Everyone can tell the difference between higher resolutions from up close, but only autists can tell anything past around 100fps and they're usually lying.
>>339084263
>He doesn't play 1440p 144Hz
Pleb alert
>>339084569
>He doesn't play 4k165
Poor faggot detected
>>339052850
>>339052850
I'd love to have a spare 800 USD to drop on a new Mobo (Better overclock stability & component spacing, fucking Evo 212 cooler blocks 2 of my RAM slots) and one of these.
But alas, bills. Bills, And Moe Bills.
>>339084569
>>339084742
>They don't know the joy of playing at 720p 60Hz
ABSOLUTE MADMEN!!
>>339084742
Are you from the future? 4K Monitors over 60Hz literally don't exist right now. The display cable is the bottleneck, only today with the 1080 coming out that has displayport 1.4 does a card exist that actually has a port to support 4K at over 60 (120 FPS in the case of dp 1.4).
>>339085152
>too poor to afford a 1080
What's it like? Sounds depressing.
>>339085443
>Being unable to read that monitors over 60Hz at 4K can't be bought right now
>>339052850
>>339052901
An anon in another thread quipped that they're called 1080s because when you see them in the store you'll do a 1080 and walk away.
I chuckled.
>>339085580
>being so poor that you don't own a X34 BMIPHZ which runs at 4k100
Is there anyone on this board that actually has a job?
970 SLI or a single 980?
PC died recently and I need to get a new one.
>>339085152
So how does this work? Do you need new cables as well as monitors that support the 1.4 version as well, ontop of the 800€ card?
>>339086420
Wait and get a 1070. Is this really that hard to fucking comprehend?
>>339086420
No reason to buy either of those right now. Either buy 1070/1080 if you can afford it or buy AMD's mid end stuff that is supposed be around 970/980 tier for less money that comes out in June/July.
Waiting inpatiently for the 2.5ghz liquid cooled version
>>339052850
why did nvidia stop making dual gpu cards like the 690?
is sli just way more efficient? or is there just not a big enough market for 2k cards?
>>339086507
I'm pretty sure displayport 1.3 and 1.4 use the same cables just like HDMI 1.3 and 2.0 do. The difference is in the ports that are able to compress the more data and have it go over the same cable. Monitors, at least not budget 1080p ones, tend to come with their own cable anyway.
>>339086570
>>339086646
Is it worth buying new tech straight away when people are not aware of any problems/compatibility issues? Is it worth getting when all you play are older, less intensive games?
I'm a complete novice when it comes to this stuff. Last PC lasted 6 years so I've been out of the loop for a long time.
>>339086889
I know the pain anon, I'm feeling so fucking trigger happy about placing an order for a card right now.
>>339054958
>What is VRM quality
>What is heat sink capacity
>What are dual 8 pin connectors
>>339086889
>>339087131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-3fi1ovAP0
you aint getting to 2.5.
What's wrong with reference cards?
I still have my 760 reference and it works fine, though I am looking forward to get a 1070 now
>>339087130
It's a graphics card, not some new mystery science theater shit
>>339081393
>mix of high/ultra
Found your problem. Try hairworks and all the other shit.
>>339087130
Either lay down a hefty chunk on cards that are getting btfo by there newer counterparts now, or buy a new aftermarket 1070/80 when you can. At the end of the day it's your choice but I'd say the best choice is pretty obvious.
>>339087561
Man, does hairworks really add enough to the game to take such a performance hit?
>>339087723
No, not really. I just turn it on because I have a pretty powerful GPU.
>>339074350
That's what never made sense to me about video card manufacturers.
Other manufacturers in other industries heavily undercut the costs because there's no middle man.
Why the fuck does Nvidia/AMD do this to themselves? Sure they make some money on the aftermarket cards but obviously those are meant to be the luxurious additions and Nvidia/AMD could sell for half that price.
>tfw 1080p21:9monitor
A GTX1070 will be more than enough for me at the moment.
>>339055253
>thermal throttle
>the reference 1080 do thermal throttle at 8x°C
>its hotter than everyone thought
>reference cards
gee i wonder, at least use some external cooling help
>>339057882
god damn you are a fucking pleb and a retard
>>339087828
This overpriced reference card shit is the first time Nvidia's pulled this. Nvidia is just trying to implement an early adopter tax to make more money.
As far as why Nvidia and AMD have board partners instead of releasing their own cards? Probably because most of the responsibility is put onto the board partners, they handle warranties, distribution and all that shit. It seems weird but it's pretty common in the tech industry, Intel doesn't make computers, they just sell their CPUs to people who do, Quadcomm doesn't make cellphones, they sell their CPUs to people that do.
EVGA step up program, as long as one of these cards comes out in the next 90 days, I can upgrade.
>>339088995
Its also that they still remember that 3DFX tried it and its part of what killed them.
>>339087960
I think a GTX 1070 will be enough for my 1080p 144Hz monitor
>>339069021
>that drop to 70 fps when he shoots the explosive barrel
>on just 1920x1080
lmao
>>339053987
I would imagine the Gaming X probably has better binnings
>>339054883
>970
You should wait for Polaris, it will be on 390x level for like $300
>>339065694
>XFX
Sapphire or nothing, anon
>>339087561
Hairworks isn't part of the core game settings, it's a tacked on API that's done after the fact and tanks performance for little visual gain
A 970 can max Witcher 3 with Hairworks off
>>339078846
Can you shut the fuck up and hang ten on some bodacious waves already?
>>339080993
EVGA for nvida and Sapphire for AMD
>>339053180
>buying a 980 when you can just get a 1070
>upgrading from a 770 when you eel that way about games
quality logic
>>339057408
You know if you just built a PC you can just return the card and call it defective, the get a 1080 from some third-party vendor.
>>339053610
I can only hope it's as quiet as the 4G 970.
>>339093318
sadly that´s only in america in the first 15 days
>>339093629
i'm returning my card that i got like 3 months ago on the claim that it's busted.amazonlet me do it just fine.
