>kiddies suddenly hate everything Japanese
What the hell happened? Remember when games like Donkey Kong, Pac-Man and Samurai Showdown were the coolest shit? When most people owned a Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis? What led to this change in opinion on Japanese games in the west? Am I misinterpreting something, or do younger kids not have an appreciation for the country that used to be on top of the console vidya world?
>>337077824
Imagine if they marketed Fatal Fury as a fps
No one actually thinks Uncharted 4 is a batter videogame than The King of Fighters 98.
>>337077925
lol
>>337077824
No one cares about your weeaboo shit grandpa
>>337077925
In Mexico, you're right.
>>337077925
KoF 98 was made 20 years ago. I really doubt that young kids or the people that started playing video games when it became the popular thing last gen care about it.
>>337078203
Feels like the only SNK game the mainstream cares about now is Metal Slug, and that's only because of F2P mobileshit spinoffs.
>>337077925
You poor fool.
>>337077920
So Terry would shoot power waves at South Town thugs?
>>337077976
>>337078024
The games reviewers like, Bioshock Infinite, Uncharted 4, Shadows of Mordor, Dragon Age Inquisition, will be in no ones collection in 10 years, no one will play them, and if someone stumbles in the future with an hd remaster collection of those games, they will only see something that aged like shit.
those games are as disposable as a newspaper.
>>337077824
>What the hell happened?
Anime. They're right to hate it if this is all they're going to make.
>>337077824
I like Japanese games, just not weeb games. I'd rather see my amnamay than play it.
>>337077824
If you grew up in the PS3/360/Wii era, you didn't get to experience the Japanese golden age of games circa 1990-2006. They've been swayed by brown-and-bloom shooters, MOBAs, and Ass Creed.
because Japan hasn't been producing quality games on a consistent basis.
>>337078361
But Japanese games were "anime" back then as well. Street Fighter has a bull fighting ninja and a bunch of asian guys throwing kamehamehas. Legend of Zelda is about a stoic swordman that cuts down evil with his magic powers. Phantasy Star has a very distinctly manga-esque artstyle and guys flying around in space shooting each other and time traveling. Mega Man was supposed to be an Astro Boy game.
>>337078741
>But Japanese games were "anime" back then as well
If you think anime back then is the same as anime now, you're too young to post here.
>>337078430
What's the difference? Is Metal Gear Solid a weeaboo game? It has giant robots and caucasian ninjas. Is Gran Turismo not a weeaboo game because it's about cars?
>>337077925
Take me to your world senpai.
I want off the ride.
>>337078838
Metal gear is weeb westaboo game
>>337078807
Anime was always pandering to the dicks of weirdos. Did you never watch 1973's Cutie Honey?
>>337077925
If you had said XIII you would have maybe possibly been right
>>337078807
>im fucking plying
>>337079046
No one played XIII
>>337079012
>i have a screencap of one scene of one show to generalize decades of a style
>>337077824
>/v/
>contrarians
We had this topic a million times already.
>>337079116I did
>>337079012
I fucking love you.
>>337078838
I'm referring to things like neptunia and other games that have an anime art style. Mgs is nice though, but not exactly what I meant. I still love jap games bby.
>>337079135
Yeah, just like you're doing now. Except you don't have the courtesy of providing a screencap, you're just talking out of your ass.
Wall Street got involved.
>>337079135
There were a lot of shows like that. This was a genre even back then, yes. I know you probably haven't watched much anime and are probably American rather than Mexican (Ranma 1/2 was big there), but look at a season chart. Also, it's not just one scene from Cutie Honey. The show was pretty much just stuff like that. I mean, look at the OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCX77Je16fk
But yeah, 1975's Time Bokan was most known for lots of panty shots and bath scenes, 1984's Dirty Pair is all about slutty girls running around half naked, Pero Pero Candy (actual hentai) was released in 1985, Urusei Yatsura, a show about a girl in a tiger skin bikini from space doing retarded shit, premiered before Zeta Gundam, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Anime was always full of stuff like that. People only care to remember the good stuff.
>>337079339
What is an anime artstyle? Keep in mind that Japanese animators can and have done things in multiple different styles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IyU02E9bdM&
>>337079776
What did they do?
>>337079339
Is this anime?
>>337080146
Not if I like it
>>337080128
Made the western gaming industry into a huge Hollywood-esque mega money machine that's out to crush all competition.
>>337077824
i don't know i guess it's because let's players rarely play japanese games
actually they don't even play games they just watch people play
same think happens with cartoons, all the cartoon fandoms are full of teenagers and adults, the other day saw a pilot for a new disney cartoon based on a let's player from spain, i didn't get any of the jokes i guess all of them were references to his videos
>>337080248
This. I think Naughty Dog is the best example of this. They got way too far up their asses with shit like TLoU. Jak 2 was kind of edgy, but not nearly as bad.
>>337077824
>What the hell happened?
Japan stopped making good games. Compile stopped making cutting edge shmups like the Aleste series, because they didn't make any money. They now make Neptunia games, which actually generate profits. This is true for many, many, many companies.
>>337079012
That honey really is a cutie.
>>337078203
My 16 year old wife's son loves KOF 98
>>337080470
Did the Mexican bull convince him to play it or you?
>>337080357
Too much Niche Japanese Pantsu quests and too many Japanese game devs with games that doesnt causes the press to have an ulcer giving gaijin the finger.
What do you expect from 4 years of mediocrity? Same with how people lump jpop with AKB48. They are gonna look elsewhere
>>337079948
For fuck's sake. Stop being such a sanctimonious cunt. You know damn well what one means when they say "anime artstyle". The distinctive look of anime is obvious to even small children. Even if there are different variations and styles, an anime artstyle is an anime artstyle.
And, Protip: Claymation is not anime. Anime is by definition hand drawn or computer animation.
Oh look it's another "what counts as anime style" thread.
>>337080852
>sanctimonious
hahaha what? I just asked a question, nigga. Oh but really, what do the artstyles of say, Kaiji and K-On have in common?
>>337080758
You have to understand the science of making money. Companies are out to make money first and foremost. You make money by making a good product. Good in this case can either mean mass appeal or solid concept, occasionally both. So you make a game, and it sold well, what do you do? Make another one, but change a few things, maybe make the gameplay a bit deeper. It too sold well, but not as well as it could. The clearly the mechanics were at fault, since it was the only thing that changed. Now you make game 3, and you add a few more characters, two of whom target the waifu audience. This game is the best selling game in the series, until you make game 4, where the entire cast is for the waifu audience. Every single girl, every single 'girls look surprised as they accidentally grope the other's tits' scene, every stutter, every single god damned thing about the girls was focus tested to appeal to as many people as possible, and generate the highest possible profit. But the gameplay has not changed at all, because fuck it, no one buys games for gameplay.
Hell, for fuck's sake, even the blasphemous baka gaijin westerners used to make good games. It affects everyone, it just so happens that Japanese games are inherently worse because of how the budget is allocated. Is Bioshock Infinite better than System Shock 2? No. Is Neptunia better than M.U.S.H.A.? No. Is Bioshock Infinite better than Neptunia? They're both shit for different reasons, and they're both given free passes for various reasons. BSI is given free passes because of how 'artsy' and 'deep' it is, Neptunia is given free passes by fedora clad neckbeards on Soviet Propaganda broadcasting centers. However, there's more of the former than the latter.
>>337081010
This is a regular thread about Japanese games. anime/anti-anime autists are just using it as their soapbox for an arugment no one cares about like usual.
>>337081629
I thought that liking Neptuina was a meme and no one actually thought it was good.
>>337082095
Apparently it does well enough for CH to keep making them, almost outpacing Call of Duty.
>>337081629
Understandable. It felt like we should be getting the GvG series for consoles since it has the FGC potential. Mind you Sony made an effort to show good Japanese games still exist with Y5 but it is an uphill battle for localization of non CH titles
>>337082531
I'm positive Yakuza is really a niche title, and it just so happens that its biggest niche is in Japan. Weren't the first two games something of cult classics in the US? They should've kept people informed of them, instead of just vanishing and then popping out of thin air.
>>337082531
>GvG
What?
>>337083541
Gundam vs gundam
>>337077824
There's been a concentrated effort over the last 10-15 years or so to destroy Japanese gaming as a viable option in order to promote the more compliant western devs. Cultural marxists worm their way into everything and will play the long game to slowly chip away at that which they hate in order to then rebuild it in their image. Vidya is no different and since Japland is safe from social justice shit it had to be destroyed and something "better" errected in its place.
>>337078336
Sounds more fun than most modern FPS games.
Yeah man japanese games suck, give me some of those western games!!!! xD
>>337083939
So the jews did this?
>>337084307left side looks cooler
>>337078350
>Implying those faggots keep collections in the first place
>Implying they aren't actively trying to turn the entire industry into digital only
Now I'm getting depressed
>>337077824
"AA" development has become increasingly niche and Japanese business models clash like nails on a chalkboard with AAA development.
It was the shift from 6th gen to 7th that did them in. As videogame audiences demanded prettier graphics, costs and risks fucking exploded, a demand most Jap developers weren't able to cope with.
The ones you see survive are the ones that stick to their niche and production values anyway (Koei Tecmo, Namco Bandai) or ones that were EXTREMELY western/internationally leaning to begin with (Capcom, Square).
So it's been a terrible, terrible industry post 7th gen and it's only gotten worse. Because a risk-averse entertainment industry isn't one that should exist.
>>337078350
These reviewers live in the moment. They don't care about the longevity of a game, nor do they look back at old releases anyway. They'll just stick with whatever is currently popular. I know that's kind of what you're saying, but that's also why I'm saying they won't care.
No one on /v/ knows about video games made before the 5th generation OP.
>>337085242
Even that's being generous. I think a lot of people on /v/ has the Xbox as their first console.
>>337085242
I've found that /v/ discussions only turn up nill if you try to get one going about pre-Atari crash games.
Which is like second generation. Not that bad.
So did anyone here actually own a Neo Geo? I wanted one, but my parents always told me it was too expensive.
>>337085665
Most people here are either too young or didn't have older siblings to get hand me downs from.
>>337079046
>Implying XIII is better than 98
Fucking lost my shit.
>>337086302
I think he was just implying that more people have played it recently outside of Korea, Japan, and China and Mexico.
Because fuck those chinks.
Support the west, support America!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFz8oOAPM-c
>>337086609
What if I'm Italian? Also, Japanese people like wrestling as well
>>337086236
Pft, no. Only played Neo Geo games in arcades. That shit cost mad bucks.
>>337087074
>Italian
Italia è parte del mondo occidentale.
>>337086236
I don't think anyone in here owned one. You had to be rich to own that
>>337087265
Ma l'Italia non è l'America.
>>337086609
I would if America still still made shooters like Japan does. When will the west have another boxed release of a game like Tyrian?
>>337077824
Kojima explained it well, Japanese games were simpler in former times and adapted to our culture better. Nowadays with better technology and stuff it's a product that is distinctly foreign. That and western games became better and the Japanese game market did sort of stagnate. Think they were better working within limitations
>>337077824
It's a cycle, first you love, then you hate, then you love again just look at the world now:
>before: freedom is bad, violence is bad, sex is bad
>then the rock age came: freedom is good, violence is good, sex is good
>now: freedom is bad, violence is bad, sex is bad
>>337088569
>became better
"Prettier", yes.
>>337088569
>western games became better
In what sense? I still view Deus Ex as one of the best games ever developed in America and that was released 16 years ago. What recent game even compares to something like that?
>>337088609
>violence is bad
So why did they use war to solve everything? Why did they wipe out the native Americans?
Also, the puritans escaped to America because they wanted freedom in the first place.
>>337088781
Freedom to enforce their own views, their problem was that the rest of England didn't share their puritanical beliefs.
Would neo-/v/ call Galaga or Gradius weeaboo pixelshit if they were new IPs released today?
what happened?
Otaku/Fujoshi pandering.
Waifus/kawaii/husbandos things dont sale for shit here.
>>337089147
Super Robot Vulkaiser was viewed positively.
>>337088569
>western games became better
bahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>337089186
This. This is the biggest disappointment to me. I miss JRPGs when they were fantastical.
I don't really give a shit about waifus and whatever. I don't mind that they exist, it's just they exist at the exclusion of everything else.
Also sick of Gackt, but japan likes him, so oh well.
>>337089186
Japanese games had otaku/fujoshi pandering back then as well. They just didn't localize those ones.
>>337089186
Nice meme you clueless fucktard
There's shit that's Japanese but relatively normal (Zelda, Final Fantasy, MGS) and then you have your Underaged Panty Quest that most people will hate on, if only as a knee-jerk thing because of how weird it is
You know how hard it is trying to convince someone to give Senran Kagura a shot?
>>337089643
Yes if a game looks realistic people will give it a try but if it looks like anime it's icky and bad
>>337089643
>MGS
>relatively normal
Most of my friends still remember the scene of the guy shitting himself in MGS4
>>337089717
Don't lots of normal people like Minecraft? That's not anime, but I wouldn't call it realistic either.
>>337089497
Ni No Kuni
Trails of Cold Steel
Xenoblade X
>>337089497
Literally a game made to pander to nostalgiafags like yourself
>>337090161
What is this even about?
>>337091258
JRPG made by a new dev team that Square opened up. It's ATB and looks a lot like Chrono Trigger battle system wise.
>>337088672
Tackling morality, avoiding extreme isekai tier escapism, the stuff that would still convince Japan has potential has been stuck in Japan.
>>337089806
Can't be as bad as most panty quests
>>337080357
>the makers of super aleste made the neptunia games
My childhood is deaaaaaaad
>>337091402
>Tackling morality
>he believes that third grade level stories written by liberal arts college washouts have true merit
>>337089806
MGS makes up for the weird shit(and there is a fuckton of it) with everything else. Like, Game of Thrones has incest and homosex and, recently, granny tiddies but the plot and characters redeem it for normals
Nintendo and Sega went to shit and everyone else started selling generic anime shit. Every JRPG now looks like a tie-in to a light novel or a shitty anime no one outside Japan even heard of. Also games are really expensive these days.
>>337080357
>Niggerposter talking out of his ass
James Watson was right about you.
>>337091705
And what did JRPGs used to look like?
>>337091705
>everyone else started selling generic anime shit. Every JRPG now looks like a tie-in to a light novel or a shitty anime no one outside Japan even heard of
Kill yourself
>>337091705
>Every JRPG now looks like a tie-in to a light novel or a shitty anime
No it doesn't you dumb fucktard.
This whole thread is three retards spewing uninformed shit.
>>337091775
Are you really gonna sit there and try to tell me Dragon Quest ever mattered outside of Japan?
>>337091895
Okay, what about Chrono Trigger? They literally got some anime guy to design the characters.
>>337079826
UY is good though
>>337080852
shut up, faggot. anime literally means anything animated in japan. you can't have an outside culture's definition be the golden standard. americans have only seen maybe 10 shows and don't realize that there are tons of shows which don't fit the "standard" style (Doraemon, Gu Gu Ganmo, Nintami Rantaro, Ojarumaru, Shin Chan, Sazae san, Anpanman, in fact all but one of those are some of the longest running sows ever), especially before the 90s.
>>337091895
Dragon Quarter is often used as an example of one of the worst RPGs ever made. :^)
>>337092130
I didn't say it was bad.I just mean that I jacked off to it a few times, so it's totally possible.
>>337080470
>16 year old wife
Livin the dream
>>337092130
all those are family shows / for very small children
>>337091895
what JRPG mattered outside of japan then, besides Final Fantasy, which obviously had an anime style?
>>337079112
>greentexting in 1994
Holy shit
>>337092369
Please be bait
Anime is such a useless fucking buzzword in this context anyway. All of these shows are animated in Korea now, so what does it matter? I guess Justice League, Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot, and Men In Black: The Animated Series are "weeb shows" because DR Movie animated them as they also animated Kaiji, Hunter x Hunter, Cardcaptor Sakura, and what the fuck ever else Madhouse does. Would you faggots honestly compare Jonny Quest with Spongebob just because they're both American cartoons? Are you going to compare Wakfu and Asterix just because they are both French comedic fantasies? No? Then why the fuck are you comparing any given Japanese thing to to "anime" as a catchall term? Anime is quite varied anyway. I mean, shit, are you people going to claim that Shitcom and Naruto are the same thing just because Japanese guys came up with the idea?
>>337092132
But that's BoF, not DQ. Funny that you mention that, though. BoF is another series with character that /v/ would describe as looking like "anime"
>>337092409
They're literally greentexting in the exact same manner that we do. I don't understand how you can see it as anything else.
>>337092260
It's not about looking like Anime it's about not looking like some generic shit like Sword Art Online or Altelier which exists solely to pander to lonely virgins.
>>337092254
And? Are you going to say that Songebob isn't a cartoon because it's made for children? What does being for a younger audience have to do with it not using the style you're familiar with?
>>337092468
Stop posting retard
>>337092260
Pokemon, which is most known for its anime.
>>337092468
Define generic. Most Americans think of the DBZ style of drawing when they hear anime, most Mexicans and BRs think of Saint Seiya, Italians and French probably think of Mazinger, et cetera.
Alright this thread is shit. Here's what actually happened:
Japan was at its strongest right at the end of Gen 6. They were really efficient at the PS2 and had reached a level of production values that could reach an international mainstream audience. What happened after? In Gen 7, big western publishers started to make games that were geared towards very casual players (CoD, Ass Creed and so on) that didn't really require investment. And those games made it big. Meanwhile Japan struggled to find a convenient platform as PS3 wasn't the hit everyone wanted it to be, 360 was too western-centric and Wii had unpredictable third-party sales. So they ended up in this weird limbo where resources got divided and the air of insecurity held them back.
Generally speaking, westerners are better businessmen and Japanese are better developers. The businessmen of Japan made some pretty bad decisions. But in terms of games, Japanese games aren't worse today than they were 10 or 20 year or so ago. If anything they're even better in some regards. You cocksuckers obsess over Neptunia and other niche games so much as if it's the only Japanese games of the past decade.
>>337092509
mean really small, like preschool age. spongebob's demographic is older, we're talking like blues clues nick jr.
>>337092468
They should pander to you instead, a clinically retarded fuckface?
>>337092653
/thread
>>337092721
So Peppa Pig isn't a cartoon?
Because Japan used to make games of all kinds, both visually and thematically.
The only recent "serious" japanese games (both visually and thematically) I can mention off the top of my head are the Souls games.
Whereas during the SNES era, we had Demon's Crest, Terranigma, Actraiser, Contra etc.
The japanese have always pandered to certain demographics, true, but never has it been more widespread as it is now.
>>337092868
>muh srs games for srs gamers such as myself
>>337092868
What about Metal Gear Solid?
>>337092816
not familiar with it but things like doraemon are still distinct from western cartoons. shit look at stuff like speed racer, that was infamous for having bizarre lip syncing if nothing else
>>337092897
You misunderstand. I have no problem with more lighthearted games, but when that is pretty much all they produce, there is a lack of variety.
I've always felt that the arcades were a way to showcase current-gen jap skill. Arcade games were always a healthy step ahead of consoles and oftentimes even PC gaming, and the general lack of western devs at the arcade helped show us there was a bigger world to consider.
>>337092950
Forgot about MGS, though to be completely fair, even that is borderline campy instead of being played completely straight.
>>337092868
That's because you're a fucking retard that spends all his time on /v/ instead of actually playing Japanese games.
What about Monster Hunter? Or MGSV? Or Dragon's Dogma? Or Yakuza? Or Nier? Or Ace Combat? Or Bravely?
>>337092984
>>337092868
How do you determine what a "serious" game is?
If it doesn't look anime?
>be a small village in finland
>notice that there is a circle of kids who like and are good at retro vidya.
>faith in gaming restored
>>337093053
Do you think western games where you mindlessly kill millions of people are more "mature"? Even kiddy Japanese shit has more thematic depth to it than whatever M-rated western game intended for functionally brain-dead dudebros.
>>337092868
Disaster Report 4 is looking to be more serious when it comes to the issue of natural disasters that occur in Japan. Maybe you aren't looking hard enough.
>>337092965
You are literally moving goalposts. First you state that shows for kids don't count for having unique artstyles, and then you proceed to claim that these shows aren't unique anyway. Please tell me how you could instantly recognize The Adventures of Lolo the Penguin or Little Lulu and Her Little Friends as anime. And like >>337092409 said, what about Shitcom?
>>337093062
>Monster Hunter
>A game where you hunt monsters wearing retarded, oversized armor and wielding ridiculously massive weapons all the while accompanied by a comic relief cat person
>MGSV
>A campy B movie in videogame form
>Dragon's Dogma
>Legit example that I forgot about, good job
>Yakuza
>Fights so ridiculous that they are funny
>Nier
>Another one I forgot, nice going
>Ace Combat
>Arcadey dogfighting in a melodramatic, almost soap opera tier setting
>Bravely
>Yet another JRPG where a band of heroes defeats a great evil because they are such good friends
>>337093428
dunno what you're talking, first post was >>337092254, don't know why you're going out of the way to be polarizing and antagonistic
only argument was that kid's shows and anything from japan is "anime" and is going to seem bizarre to any normal, adjusted person in the anglosphere
>>337093062
>Monster Hunter
weeaboo giant sword unsheathes katana psssh nothin personnel kid shit
>MGSV
Fulton system. Do I even need to say anything else?
Dragon's Dogma
Stupid Berserk wannabe shit that is way too camp with dude dragons lmao
>Yakuza
If I wanted to watch the Sopranos, I'd watch the Sopranos.
>Nier
hurr dur so sad story muh drag on dragoon continuation about muh tragic sanstesticles father and his dickgirl best friend
>Ace Combat
Super duper flying Macross plane shit
>Bravely
Loli shit
>>337093635
How would a family show seem bizarre to Americans?
>>337093618
Alright, now name some "mature" western games.
My point is, determining a game's quality after its maturity is really subjective and also sort of childish because violence doesn't have to mean mature. If anything, violence is what immature people confuse for depth. I'd rather take a light-hearted RPG with some nice music and charming story over grim-dark MATURE SETTING MATURE VIOLENCE game any day of the week.
Well the only genre that still interests me is fightan and the Japanese are still on top of that market but honestly when looking back, i used to almost exclusively play Japanese games and never even thought about it. The only western games that i can remember really liking is is platformers like Crash and Jak and Daxter, a few D&D games, Everquest (RIP) and Mortal Memebat when it was still good.
>>337077824
The Xbox happened.
>>337094013
Fighting games have managed to retain some level of gameplay quality simply because the Japanese have had such a strong hold on it. It's very much a Japanese genre. MKX is a failure in terms of gameplay in comparison. And that's the biggest western fighting game.
>>337094013
MKX is the closest Mortal Kombat has gotten to remotely being good.
>>337093721
shin chan for example was localized as an adult off color comedy in the vain of samurai pizza cats
>>337093864
Planescape: Torment
Max Payne 1&2
Last of Us
System Shock 1&2
Red Dead Redemption
>>337091543
More merits than NAKAMA GA MAMORU!
>>337094218
>Last of Us
lel
>>337094219
in jap games / stories you are supposed to sympathize with the characters, not the general ideas they represent
>>337094218
These are some good games but generally speaking also very rare for western devs. Planescape is from the 90's and MP1-2 is also older than a decade. Nowadays, when a western dev tries to be "deep", it's usually just a code word for more fashionable gender and race agenda being forcibly shoved into a setting where it doesn't belong.
>>337094218
>Planescape: Torment
>Last of Us
Shit games, not really supporting the maturity = quality idealogy.Yeah I fucking said it Planescape played like ass and perpetuated this shit idea that gameplay plays second fiddle in RPGs.
>Max Payne
2 yes, 1 absolutely not.
>System Shock 1 and 2
Those games got plain goofy, they had stretches of seriousness at most.
"Nah".
>RDR
Idk I haven't played that one.
>>337094218
>the last of us
I'll give you the other ones (even though only RDR is relatively recent) but come on, now. That game uses the same shitty techniques to get you to care about characters that anime does. The pain of losing a child is such a cheap tactic and relying the physiological need to protect them is a sign that you're not a good writer. The ending is actually the worst part of that whole charade. Killing innocent people just because they're in the way of muh daughteru? Even though they're trying to help the world overall? You're going to be selfish enough to keep your petty attachment to your adopted child and screw humanity over? Also, there's that whole thing about how they try to present killing as an action you have to think about and determine whether or not it's moral.... a few scenes after you get done mowing down tons of human enemies.
>>337094219
You do realize that's not a good thing, right? That's like saying piss is better than shit. Yeah, The Walking Dead is a better show than Naruto, but why would I want to watch either shitty example of genre fiction instead of something that's actually good?
>>337094437
The japanese aren't much better with history, to be honest.
>>337077824
Two nukes were not enough.
>>337094554
I'd rather watch Naruto over TWD BELIEVE IT
>>337094219
You're the type of nigga that would get fucked by two hobo junkies in a dumpster and then brag to his friends about getting laid.
>>337094654
CARRRRLLL
>>337094636
its not world war I or 2, it's its own world which is SIMILAR to ours, they barely invented planes in this game
>>337094636
That's a fictional setting. Not in any ways a historical game. Meanwhile DICE is legit trying to pass off their SJW propaganda as being representative of WW1.
>>337094636
Yet we don't claim that Japanese games are trying to be realistic. Westcucks complain anime "anime" games being unrealistic/gay/stupid all of the time.
>>337094718
>>337094719
It's quite clearly inspired by WWII
>>337094786
inspired BUT not our world hence there may be some similarities but thats is all there is.
>>337094786
But it's still a fictional setting. It's not WW1 or WW2. It's not historical.
>>337094437
Why would anyone set a military FPS in WW1.
By far the most miserable fucking setting you could go for.
>>337095063
Too make people feel sad with their totally deep plot
>>337095063
It's a miserable setting but our socially aware Swedish devs will find a way to turn it into pop-corn entertainment as they shove in more and more 2016 "gender is a social construct!" politics into it. It's basically fanfic from the perspective of a Swedish SJW more than it is actual history.
People became too obsessed with story in games. It's why you see people praise shit like Uncharted
Over time it seems many people have forgotten the most important ingredient to a good gaming experience: The good game.
And by game I'm not referring to shader effects, high polygon counts, compelling story, or any of the other irrelevant nonsense I don't give a submarining fuck about. I mean the actual gameplay. The part where you control stuff and have it interact with other stuff and then your brain generates fun.
If I wanted a compelling story I'd read a book. There's only a few million of them already in existence, majority of which were written by people whose talents compare to the best video game writers, the same way Kobe Bryant's penis might compare to that of a poorly endowed tit mouse.
If enduring 90 minutes of CGI cutscenes dubbed with pornography-grade voice acting sounds exciting to you, I suggest you immediately open up your web browser, browse on over to your friendly neighborhood torrent site, and start downloading something called a MOVIE. Any of them really, because apparently you're very easily satisfied.
Perhaps I'm romanticizing the past here, but but I remember a time when most games were about being challenged to explore new gameplay mechanics, about learning and solving new puzzles, about improving your skills against all types of adversaries and about feeling proud of your accomplishments.
Now they're mostly shiny particle effected vessels guiding any soccer mom caliber gamer through a generic 3rd grade level story where anyone with a brain the size of a steroid shrunk testicle can pretend to be a hero and maintain a fantasy of NOT SUCKING BALLS AT VIDEO GAMES.
>B-but I need a reason for what I'm doing, motivation for my character, a back story!
Would you really need a backstory to play Atari games, you twat? How about football? Or Poker? If the process of playing a game isn't fun for you, then maybe you should find a different hobby.
Normies and reddit happened who are a very real threat to /v/ since 2015. The people who concerns this know exactly what I'm talking about, anyone denying it is part of the problem.
>>337095231
Fuck me, I see people praising the Turk's "actions" during Gallipoli these days.
>>337095308
But Japanese games never have good gameplay. Go on. Try to name one that isn't grinding weeaboo shit or button mashing anime fighting shit
>>337095308
Good gameplay still exists. It's just that nobody really cares. Discussion is usually boiled down to graphics/story/frame rate and it ends there. Because talking about gameplay actually requires you to play and understand the game rather than passively consume it like most people love to do these days.
Uncharted and those other western AAA wannabe movies are actually pretty bad stories too. They're only praised because the people that praise them haven't read many books or watched many movies.
>>337095597
>button mashing anime fighting shit
This is where you oust yourself as the retarded dudebro fucker you are. You would not be able to ever understand a fighting game with this brat mentality.
>>337095698
No you don't understand, he beat his friends by slamming heavy attack/projectiles over and over so all fighting games are trash.
>>337095698
>>337095824
To quote Yahtzee, "I tend to think something's wrong with a genre where you can spend decades learning every little nuance of the gameplay and still get beaten by a kid whose just randomly mashing buttons"
>>337096091
>To quote Yahtzee
>>337096091
If you play a fighting game for a decade and actually learn the game, you most definitely can beat any scrub by simply utilizing cheap shit that throws beginners off. Fuck Yahtzee. Fighting games, next to RTS's are probably the most skill-oriented genres out there.
>>337096091
>still get beaten by a kid whose just randomly mashing buttons
There's a reason why people say Smash isnt a fighter
>>337096091
Ah yes, to quote the casual who has literally never touched a fighting game outside of story mode ever.
Not how it works buddy. Beating a button-masher is a case of learning how to punish, which takes 30 seconds, and then you wipe the floor with their pre-pubescent asses.
If someone claims to be good at fighting games and eats shit from a kid farting out random attacks, they haven't even played the fucking game.
>>337089186
>i have no idea what PC98 is
you're genuinely fucking retarded if you think there was somehow "less" waifus in the 90's
>>337077824
Weebs and waifufaggotry pushed everyone away. They're the bronies or TGC neckboars that ensured the fad stayed among faggots with a few exceptions.
But I think that's mostly anime. Japan fames still sell the same pretty much and what used to appeal to westerners (Mario and Resident Evil) still do. One of the few genres that really take a hit was fighting games, but they kept adding and marketing waifufaggottry.
>>337096091
yahtzee is terrible at video games and you're an idiot if you take him seriously
>>337096597
No you're just a brainwashed westacuck
>>337095597
mgs
>>337096597
This retarded opinion has been posted and proven wrong in this very thread 3 or 4 times already. But I'll humor you a bit. Tell me how some fucktard you don't like affects your enjoyment of a single player game? I hate lout spics, but association football is still one of my favorite sports.
>>337077925
Kof98 has major flaws and is unbalanced as fuck. It's a fun game, but it's technically unimpressive. I have no idea how UC4 plays, but I know my fighting games and the dickriders on /v/ are no better than the hipster cancer who dickride pixel art games.
>>337096771
Does anyone on /v/ claim that KoF 98 is balanced? I don't think any of the praised fighting games here are. I mean, people love Turd Strike and MvC2 for some reason and those games are imba as fuck, but does anyone claim that they aren't?
>>337094437
>>337096597
Why don't you read the thread instead of proving yourself the retard we suspected you to be?
Just admit the west is blowing the fuck out of Japan and weaboos when it comes to good games. You degenerate fucking weebs .
>>337096942
>got BTFO earlier in the thread
>b-but we have sales guise
>>337096771
actually KOF98 is pretty balanced, almost every character is viable, of course some are easier to use than others though.
>>337096771
So I'm not allowed to like it because it's not really viable at a pro level outside of 4 or 5 characters, thus making it worse than a game that has basically no gameplay and a mediocre story as it's main selling point?
>>337077824
Because based Japanese companies like Capcom, Sega and SNK are dead.
Nintendo's still doing their thing, sort of. As much as some people think otherwise, Nintendo was never the be-all and end-all when it came to videogames.
Also what this anon said >>337096597
>>337096091
>To quote Yahtzee
into the fucking trash
>>337091402
Nigga western games don't tackle morality
>>337096942
What exactly is a "weeb" game? The term weeaboo has seemingly lost all meaning and I don't even know what it denotes anymore. Would it describe any of the following?
>has crazy over the top fighting and action associated with anime? (e.g., Devil May Cry)
>about Japanese mythology or history? (e.g. Nobunaga's Ambition)
>about "normal" stuff that just happens to take place in Japan. (e.g. 98 Koshien)
>developed by Japanese people, even if it isn't about Japan or features Japanese characters. (e.g. Operation Europe)
If so, I can see problems with all 4 of those definitions.
1. So is CoD Advanced Warfare an anime game? I mean, it has characters surviving multiple shots and still running full speed, not to mention jet packs.
2. By this board's definition, wouldn't Japanese mythology or history only be interesting to weeaboos? How is an interest in samurai less "weeaboo" than an interest in, say anime or Japanese pro wrestling? Because it actually happened? The same could be said of numerous deplorable events in history, but you're not studying the Tuol Sleng Genocide and glorifying Pol Pot.
3.Couldn't it be argued that you only care because it's about Japanese characters? How likely would you be to play a game that's the Indian or Kenyan equivalent of a game like Yakuza?
4. It was still developed by Japanese people, so shouldn't that "taint" it?
Is this just simple racism now? Have we reached the point where weeaboo no longer means an obsession with Japan's superiority but just anything associated with the country's output at all?
>>337094218
Those are some ancient fucking games
>>337094219
you're 15
>>337096771
So what's your favorite fighting game? Is it also what you consider the most balanced fighting game?
>>337097262
weeb is "anything Japanese that I don't like". Meaning it's an empty phrase coined by retards.
>>337096729
Fads are dictated by society.
If a house is built in a bad neighborhood it's price will be lower than a house built in a nicer neighboorhood. People that associate with an object help dictate that object's worth. Shoes and clothes go out of style mainly by the people who wear or don't wear them. If the cool kids aren't playing X game and talking about it then it isn't cool.
>single player games
Most if the best sellers are online MP games because westerners love to socialize. Most of the successful SP games are WRPGs for WRPGfags who traditionally never enjoyed Japanese games or their style. Everything else is niche.
>>337096682
And you're a brainwashed weeb. Better save up more money to spend on Grandblue Fantasy.
>>337077824
24/7 negative marketing by westaboos game makers and racists.
>>337077824
>>337097262
I remember a thread earlier today where people were dismissing Raiden V as weeaboo shit just because it's a Japanese game. You're right OP, I have no idea how we reached this point.
>>337097009
We have SALES because we have QUALITY and DEPTH. Notice how barely any Jap games are given good review let alone attention? It's because they suck
>>337097468
It's a tragedy. I thought atleast 4chan would be spared from the retardation but it has spread even here.
>>337097346
strangely enough most anti weebs are actually bigger weebs than the average anime fan if use the original definition
>>337097262
Weeb = Japanese made garbage. It also refers to their garbage taste shit eating fans
>>337097595
Kill yourself you ignorant newfag cancer
>>337097501
>we have QUALITY and DEPTH
You got the publisher dick in your mouth, that's what you got.
>>337097102
You know UC has had numerous MP and alternate modes since UC2 right? Crying that the story mode tells a story isn't viable when there are modes that focus on ganeplay.
>>337097331
I like MvC2 because it's broken as fuck. SF1 is the most balanced fighting game.
>>337097612
add more buzzwords next time, that will show anyone that dares insult the Glorious Nippon
>>337096940
I'm actually right. Weebs are really stupid and can't seem to handle the idea that people like to play with friends with what's popular.
>>337097614
Explain how any of those games don't deserve their spot. Show me Jap games in that period that surpass. Don't bother Because you fucking can't
>>337077824
>kiddies suddenly hate everything Japanese
jap games have longevity and collecting appeal, not just here BTW.
no one cares about western shit on the hipster/gamer facebook groups i belong to,
everyday here and there (facebook, leddit) there are multiple threads here of chrono trigger, FF6, fft, Persona, SMT,dark souls, Sonic, Megaman, MGS. etc and zero or 1 thread of Last of Us, ASSCreed Syndicate, Dragon Age, Fallout 4, Mortal Kombat X
>>337097736
Proving everyone's point, that you're just a bitch following popularity trends
>>337097698
you're a hypocrite
>>337097789
Are we talking Jap Games or Weeb games? Because there is an important difference here, most people enjoy Jap games but are negative towards Weeb games.
Most of the games you mentioned are Jap games. Weeb games are the shit with the titty ninjas and what ever the fuck FE is turning into.
>>337097946
see
>>337097262
Clueless fucktard
>>337097946
The difference is anime. Anime games are garbage much like anime itself
>>337097438
So what you're saying is that you hate black people and wouldn't by anything they make because they're poor? That's really all I could get out of this. I think you're way too concerned with the opinions of others. This may be a hard concept to grasp, but even if something has bad fans, the average person won't know anything about it. Do you think that some guy that watched Catdog on TV is going to know about furries? You have to look this shit up to even get mad about it.
>>337097828
Are you really stupid? I don't play any of the best sellers and I'm strictly into PC games and primarily waste more time modding than anything. I'm just pointing out the obvious to idiots who couldn't even sell food to the hungry.
>>337097632
So KoF 98 is bad for being broken, but that's why you like MvC2? Is it because the latter is much more obviously broken?
>>337097632
The gameplay isn't really that good either. It's just a console third person shooter. Can you even use a mouse and keyboard with it?
>>337097763
>watch dogs
self explanatory everyone hates it
>COD AW
this is fine because its the first cod game in ages thats actually different and not a rehash
>FIFA
its the same game thats rehashed on a yearly basis
>destiny
self explanatory everyone hates it and bungle
>asscreed
dying franchise that getting fewer and fewer sales
>far cry 4
its a rehash
>>337098002
I ignored that post because its a shitton of words about nothing you fucking delusional weeb.
It's common knowledge now that most Japanese Devs are going for the lowest demonating with their games because it rakes in cash hand over fist. Once they really were on the cutting edge of game development, peaking in the mid to late 90's but now it's all trash. Nothing but panty quests and dating sims with blank state protagonists so you can self insert that much easier.
>>337098039
if a Japanese video game has cutscenes that makes it anime because it was animated in japan
>>337098072
Yeah there are people who won't buy shit from black people. It's a lot less of struggle than it was a century ago, but don't expect Tyrone to sell much in certain towns.
Thanks for bringing up racism though. More evidence to show weebs and tumblrites are one and the same.
>>337098306
>I ignored that post
because it proved you wrong. Keep being an ignorant fucker on purpose.
>>337098306
>i know nothing and i'm going to broadcast my ignorance for the thread to see
Embarassing.
>>337077824
Memes happened.
>>337098306
Eh, I'll condense it for you.
>Is Gran Turismo weeb, it's a Japanese game about race cars?
>Is 98 Koshien weeb, it's a Japanese game about baseball?
>Is Devil May Cry weeb, it's a Japanese game about sword fighting guys shooting at things in slow motion?
jap devs have artistic integrity, their industry is not completely dominated by the suits (except for Capcom)
>>337077824
reddit invaded with normalfags and sjws everywhere. no really it's the actual reason.
>>337098146
Said Kof is fun, but I wouldn't call Kof or MvC2 technically good. There are flaws that bother me, but could bother people more alert.
>>337098306
how old are you?
>>337077824
something about western games competing for market share from japanese games so western companies try to copy japanese as well as run propaganda campaigns against them
>>337098359
>>337098367
>Japanese devs are as good as ever shut up shut up I can't hear you la la la la la
Trends in gaming of changed so much and most Jap devs just couldn't keep up. They either went under or just marketed shit to the guaranteed cash cows (ie, horny teenagers and weebs)
>>337098348
>I'm racist but you're still bad for pointing it out.
>>337098106
So you're a weirdo neckbeard yourself that can only enjoy game via breaking them, but then looks down on WRPGFags?
>>337096771
>unbalanced as fuck
other than the bottom 8 characters (so, shit like Lucky at high level -- he styles on people who are bad but can barely hit Iori or the other high-tiers when played by someone decent other than luck, Brian -- who has literally two good moves and the rest are garbage (at least screw body press is retarded good), Rugal -- who is gimped as fuck in an effort to be "fair", etc), you can play anyone and expect to win
like, sure, Iori/Chizuru/Daimon are fucking retarded, but KOF98 has more viable characters than most games have characters, period
>>337093618
>>MGSV
>>A campy B movie in videogame form
I really wish that were true
>>337098446
>mobage
A lot of Jap games shove in shit that will be popular in their home country. You think it's artistic, but all I see are statistics. Cap com tries to appeal to the west with some if their IPs.
Does every thread about Japanese games have to devolve into angry Americans yelling about how much they hate anime? Are you people going to start calling Crash Bandicoot retarded looney tunes shit next or something?
>>337098525
You're just proving me right
>>337098516
if you don't read what they say no one is going to take you seriously
>>337098659
no, they're going to call it weebshit
>>337098106
What do you mod that isn't WRPGs?
>>337094158
and it's still a massive lump of shit.
>>337098348
if /pol/ was deleted would you leave this site?
>>337098442
how many of those game you just menioned have 13 year old girls with double D's showing off their panties?
People still like good Japanese games. This isn't a debate. The problem is that the market is getting more and more dominated by otaku pandering, which is a direct parallel with modern anime trends.
Now this is the part where you say
>lmao how old are you newfagot XD
>thats always been there
And sure, it has but never at the main focus of the gaming trends. It's never been so big that it forced devs not making those type of games into making pachikino machines or whatever
>>337098725
What does Crash Bandicoot have to do with anime?
>>337097946
So it's not weeaboo if it has no sex? Is God Of War a weeaboo game?
>>337098817
It would be painful
>>337098828
>The problem is that the market is getting more and more dominated by otaku pandering
Why is this a problem?
Because they're not pandering to puritans like yourself?
>>337098887
if /pol/ and /tv/ were deleted would you leave?
>>337098659
Start a thread with a passive agressive tone and you usually get aggressive responses. Is that a hard concept to grasp?
Please go here and tell Hiro you're sick of westfag shitposters and want /v/ to be split into west and jap /v/
>>>/qa/521603
>>337098929
It would be extremely painful
>>337098828
But it has. Enix basically only stayed afloat at first because they made hentai games.
Also, are you really trying to claim that something is only anime if it has fanservice? Is Legend of the Galactic Heroes not an anime? I mean, yeah, there's no women, but would this game not be considered weeaboo shit by angry westaboos just because it has guys with poofy hair?
>>337098817
I'm not /pol/
>>337098906
name some okatu pandering games that's game play is as good as Megaman X or Grand Turismo or Devil May Cry
That's the problem those games are all flash and no substance. And they can just churn them out by the truck full. No new ideas are coming out of Japan, that innovation that once put Eastern games in front is fading fast.
>>337098996
>start a shot posting thread
>get btfo
Wahhhhh Hiro!
>>337099143
>And they can just churn them out by the truck full. No new ideas are coming out of Japan, that innovation that once put Eastern games in front is fading fast.
Splatoon came out just last year and was a very refreshing shooter.
>>337098991
OP here. I appreciate all of the varied and interesting responses I am getting in this thread. How was I being passive aggressive, though? Because I said kiddies? (English is not my first language) Hm... in hindsight, maybe I could have phrased that better, but this is really something I've only noticed very recently. Even my friends that didn't really like stuff like Saint Seiya when we were teenagers 20 years ago didn't become violently angry about it as I've seen people do now. I just assumed that this was people not familiar with this kind of stuff taking it very personally. Is it actually older people that have become more jaded and violent? Why would actual adults get this angry about video games or cartoons on the internet?
>>337099143
Castlevania Rondo of Blood
Really this depends on what you define as 'otaku pandering' though.
>>337077925
Confirmed black person
>>337079112
>>337079227
What the fuck is up with these 'old school' elitists hating Sailor Moon? It's the best series anime had produced at that point, there's nothing to get uppity about. The fact that it can be mistakenly seen as just a repetitive MotW based shoujo takes away nothing from the actual depth it has.
>>337099143
Sengoku Rance (not that you'll even give it a chance)
Nitroplus Basterz (not that you'll take the time to master)
>>337099143
FF XIII-2 was awesome and also had a hottie pink haired protagonist plus DLC costumes from fucking AKB48 and even mass effect armors
>>337099180
I didn't start this thread and it's not for shitposting. You people are just way too defensive about simple questions about why you like or dislike something. Go ahead and ask me a question of a similar nature (Do your parents like you? Why do you enjoy pizza with pineapple?) And see if I sperg the fuck out like you.
>>337099143
Bayonetta is clearly otaku pandering right?
I mean she's a sexual character and sexuality is bad for my puritan eyes.
>>337099260
Americans are always this pissed off over petty shit that doesn't matter. You should watch Jersey Shore. They're like that all the time.
>>337099143
Kamidori Alchemy Meister
Rabi Ribi
>>337099260
See
>>337098996
This is a place where passion trumps everything.
>>337099276
Only spics care about KoF. Black people play SF.
>>337099281
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsus was much better.
>>337077824
Its much easier to market games made in America (obviously). Most people only buy whats popular, which has a massive overlap with whats marketed the heaviest. Just casual plebs being casual plebs as usual
>>337099415
I haven't sperged out though. I've actually had some of the most volatile responses (you included lmao). You guys are being aggressive and then wondering why other people are aggressive.
>>337077824
Censorship happened. That is why people hate the jap games when they come here.
>>337099640
But Japanese games have always been getting censored, much like anime. DBZ had a bunch of episodes cut in its first U.S. dub.
i hate any chink game with kissless virgin pandering
>>337099640
Censorship has existed on both sides for decades and games still sold.
>>337099725
So what kind of games do you like?
>>337099452
Is the Sexual Content really the first thing that comes to mind when you think Bayonetta? Not the 100% Certified Batshit Fighting System?
![S02E01.AC3.DVDRip.DivX-SFM.avi_snapshot_28.34_[2016.04.20_09.20.32].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WBitSF4.jpg "S02E01.AC3.DVDRip.DivX-SFM.avi snapshot 28.34 [2016.04.20 09.20.32]")
It's an [UNSOLICITED OPINIONS ON ANIME] episode
Anime was always shitty otaku pandering garbage or simplistic shows for kids. They just didn't license those shows back then and they didn't get fansubbed as much.
Seriously, look at some of these charts showing how much garbage was dispersed between the good shit
http://anichart.net/archive/summer-78
http://anichart.net/archive/winter-88
http://anichart.net/archive/spring-98
I mean, do the people posting these retarded opinions like "anime used to be cool but it's gay now" only have knowledge of what came on Toonami or whatever? Of course they'd only choose the best shows.
>>337099914
So the issue is "contemporary anime lacks duration that caters to this demographic"
>>337079227
>Ranma was best girl even back then.
kek
>>337100000
WITNESSED
>>337099990
But there are plenty of long shows still.
>>337099281
>It's the best series anime had produced at that point
I like sailor moon but let's not get ahead of ourselves here
>>337100000
Thread over
>it's a butthurt weeb episode
>>337078350
"games reviewers" also don't like games, they like movies, for them story come first. Video games crash when ?
>>337099281
it was new and popular, not as cool as what was new and popular when i was a kid
>>337100109
Look carefully at who started the shitposting.
>>337100317
OP by making this pathetic, embarrassing thread?
>>337077824
>Samurai Showdown
I was just playing Samurai Shodown III(my fave) in NeoRageX just now
Otakufaggots in Japan ruined everything
>>337096210
>and actually learn the game
That's the problem, unless you have dedicated practice partners who are also as serious about the game as you are and are willing to look up extra shit about the mechanics, it's really easy to play for years and still just not know how to counter basic shit.
Fighting games are ass at teaching their mechanics and you absolutely need excessive specialized practice to just not get fucked up by basic shit.
>>337096230
Ironically, Smash is the exception; it's easier to shut down people doing random shit in it than it is in any 'real' fighter because the game gives you the tools to move out of any given situation without needing much specialized knowledge.
>>337099772
ill give anything a chance as long as it doesnt have what i just listed. hell monster hunter is one of my favorite fucking series ever. i dont have a problem with every jap game i just HATE those that so blatantly pander to kissless neckbeards. i mean look at doax3, the game is fucking terrrible and is basically a softcore porn simulator with abysmal gameplay. why not just go to gelbooru and have a wank to shit like that? i will never understand buying shit tier games like that.
>>337100368
Way to disprove that anon's point by being completely buttmad.
What's so "pathetic and embarassing" about OP's post
>>337100368
He's just some spic that wants to know why Japanese games are irrelevalnt now
>>337100532
i'LL KISS YOU
>>337093618
>>337093638
>We hate fun.
Go and suck your latest CoD and Battlefield cock, faggots.
>>337077824
It's the direction that anime took in the 2000's-2010's that's influenced how most people feel about Japanese entertainment. Anime (and games) used to be targeted towards a wider general audience back in the 80's-90's, whereas now otaku are the main target, and no one really likes them. That's why we get a lot of the shame shit nowadays.
>>337100997
Nice meme
>>337077824
>Sega Genesis
It's called the Megadrive, people!
That was the original yapanese name!
>>337079012
Are you seriously comparing Cutey Honey to million LN/harem adaptations we get now?
>>337100997
Anime was made to sell shit to children in the 80s. You know that MSG 0079 wasn't even supposed to be about robots, right? Most of the well known hentai was created in the 90s. Bible Black's VN, Cool Devices, Adventure Kid, Angel Blade, et cetera. I think what you mean is that you now have access to fansubs of all of these shows, so you can see how shit a season really is.
>>337101046
You know, that would have been even funnier if they didn't also call it Mega Drive in Europe.
>>337101046
These people go to so much trouble to style their hair and buy the exact stuff they want, but somehow losing weight or getting ripped enough that they don't look ridiculous is off the menu.
>>337101030
It's just an observation from someone that's been watching anime since the 80's.
>>337101086
To be fair, more anime is being produced now in the first place. Due to the amount of Koreans willing to work for little to no money, it's obvious more shitty shows are going to be made. That's like saying that kids behave worse now just because there are more of them due to the population of the world increasing. I'm talking about the ratio. While there are more bad shows, there are also more good shows. The ratio has stayed about the same. Besides, you know that Cutey Honey led to a lot of similar shows getting made, right? >>337079826
>>337101321
Name one good show in the last year
![[HorribleSubs] Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.16_[2014.08.19_16.28.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/x4ICerB.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance - 06 [720p].mkv snapshot 16.16 [2014.08.19 16.28.18]")
>>337101131
No, I mean exactly what I said. The way people view anime and who it's generally targeted towards is different now. A harem from the 90's is far different than one from today. Pic related, we didn't have stuff like this back then. We had Ranma, Tenchi, and the like, but you can't even start comparing them to the dime-a-dozen otaku wishfulillment anime and games we have now.
>>337101426
You'll obviously dismiss adaptations of manga (or anything else, really) it as crap to prove your point, even if you would have been more lenient on it if it premiered a few years before, but sure.
Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans
Prison School
One Punch Man (fanbase is irrelevant)
>>337078741
Except the games themselves were not alienating towards foreigners
There's a difference between a game like Persona 4 that is targeted towards weaboos/otaku and a game like Chrono Trigger which has far more broader appeal
>>337101506
How is Ranma much better? It's still for weirdo virgins and normal people wouldn't give a shit about them.
>>337101682
>normal people
>only "weirdo" virgins can enjoy Ranma 1/2
Your perspective on life is too narrow-minded to bother explaining too. Even if I bothered typing it out, you wouldn't understand.
>>337101670
CT is a game that takes place in a fantasy world that vaguely has parallels with Europe, Chrono wielding a katana aside.
Persona 4 is not targeted towards "weeaboos." I hate this meme. Japanese people don't make games for foreigners that like Japan. They make games for themselves and don't really care whether or not Americans care about them. More importantly, Persona 4 actually takes place in Japan. Is this inherently wrong? Was Total Overdose: A Gunslinger's Tale in Mexico "mexiboo pandering shit"? Is The Witcher "slavaboo pandering shit"? Is Breaking Bad "Some retarded shit that only Amerifats can comprehend?" No, these are simply pieces of media about certain areas. Is info or subtext about foreign cultures really this unsettling?
>>337101974
People who are successful with jobs and lives do not watch anime. If you had a wife and money, do you really think you'd be wasting your time on shit like this? This is the lowest form of escapism for terrible people like you.
>>337099520
Lactating homos is a dryly written, poorly directed show with weak villains that gets elaborate praise because its a really fucking long and complex OVA focused on pol/sci issues. It's unexceptional both as a drama and as an animated work.
>>337100052
What would you say had surpassed it then? Only films of the likes of Ghibli were honestly able to match or exceed it at its best.
>>337080146
Not necessarily
Anime is primarily defined by how the characters are drawn and I can't get a good look of the characters there
But the fantasy landscape there is not exclusive to Anime
>>337102098
And Sailor Moon is a repetitive slog about a girl that can't stop crying and panicking when faced with any sort of danger. It's just a shittier version of Saint Seiya, but with girls that didn't even have to train beforehand.
>>337101637
>Prison School
>One Punch Man
Kek.
No.
>>337101670
This.
Some fucking weebs on this site have their heads stuck up their asses so much they can't see the difference between Persona 4 and Final Fantasy VIII.
Check it out:
>Both are RPGs
>With Anime character designs
>About high schoolers
>Who save the world
>With mechanics based around mythical creatures
>And major subplots based around romance
But you'd be stupid to not notice the huge difference in design between the two games. Persona 4 is weeb wish fufillment, with most of it's influences being anime or Japanese teen trends.
FFVIII may be a poor game, but it's influences aren't limited to things that only Japanese players and weeaboos are interested in. It mixes typical anime concepts and cliches, with western mythological and visual ques.
Japan started making games that strictly targeted Japanese players, instead of trying to branch out and use diverse influences. The only games that tend to do well in the west are older, established franchises, or games about Martial Arts/Samurai/Ninja/Warlords/Yakuza AKA: Japanese shit that westerners actually like
>>337102042
>>337102042
>That projection
Whatever helps you cope with existence I guess.
>>337102185
But no one liked FFVIII even at the time.
>>337102185
And you have proven my point by giving no explanation of why either of those shows are bad. Come on, at least humor me with some bullshit reasons or a long paragraph that basically amounts to "the fights are bullshit" or something along the lines of that. Simply typing no isn't satisfying.
>>337077824
Don't worry. Greatest ally is just trying to dominate vidya like they do movies and music.
>>337101984
Because "japan is le weird and le wacky xD"
Americans are afraid of other cultures. Probably because they don't actually have any of their own.
>>337102524
this is some good bait
>>337099914
The funny thing is, there a heap of interesting looking shit on your charts that I've never otherwise heard of, along with the standard harem stuff you're pointing out. I know for a fact from watching it that, for instance, ESPer Mami is a damn good anime despite its obscurity, even if it is perverted as all fuck.
>>337102169
>And Sailor Moon is a repetitive slog about a girl that can't stop crying and panicking when faced with any sort of danger.
And I'm not even denying this or any of its myrad other problems, but it has more god tier episodes than any other anime I'm aware.
>>337090161
except it looks like shovelware
>>337101136
>but somehow losing weight or getting ripped enough that they don't look ridiculous is off the menu
These people generally just don't know how to work out.
>>337102524
>because they don't actually have any of their own
this
>>337077824
donkey kong is uk, you fuck
at least what your target market knows it as
samurai showdown is a poor fighter, neogeo is dead, the better franchises jumped ship in a strange fit of self awareness
terry will always live on
>>337084307
are you seriously trying to compare stills with each other? Western devs are graphical powerhouse. You need to stick to arguing over which genres and styles of games you prefer. DICE alone destroys any Jap game in the graphics department, but Battlefornt is probably the worst game on theretied with offline MMO for the WiiU of course
>>337092091
Dragon Ball is not weebshit you idiot
Akira Toriyama's art style has mass appeal worldwide
It's why DBZ is so popular worldwide
>>337103067
He said Donkey Kong, not Donkey Kong Country
>>337102524
Why are you saying this when Europe buys more CoD than America and less Japanese games like fighters.
>>337103194
Europe has muslim culture
>>337103194
That's still a foreign culture to Europe. How many people in Germany do you think knows what trailer trash is before playing something like GTA V?
>>337092441
Breath of Fire's art style has broad appeal
It's not otakushit
>>337103146
>DBZ isn't weeb
Based on a Chinese novel, set in a very asian world with lots of asian characters and puns on asian foods, even in the American adaptation. When you have characters named Gohan and have people walking around with the Japanese word for turtle written on their backs using east asian martial arts to save the Earth, it's a weeb show.
>>337103246
Well they know what white trash is.
>>337092653
>Japan was at its strongest right at the end of Gen 6.
Disagree
Japan was it's best in Gen 4
>>337084307
probably never. both sides implement repetitive gameplay, but one side looks better.
i will give the japs credit though. they are quite good at writing stories focused on pseudo philosophy.
>>337103224
well memed my friend
>>337103147
we both know what genreswap he was waxing poetic on
>>337103304
DBZ was the only show to really blow up in America and it's a huge Superman and DC Universe parody down to "Kal-El" not practicing his martial arts and just powering up through unconventional means.
>>337103271
So it's not otakushit if you and your friends like it?
>>337103461
Exactly
>>337093001
There was plenty of western games in the arcades
>>337103431
Pokemon also got huge in America, though. Also, what about shows that are popular in Mexico like Saint Seiya? It's a bunch of gay looking bishounen running around punching each other.
>>337103518
But what if one of your friends doesn't like it?
>>337103673
Mexico is a shithole and they need to be weebs to cope, just like Russia.
Pokemon was a straight up drug. Collectathons have always grabbed attention and Pokemon came at the right time when pogs were dying.
>>337093001
>and the general lack of western devs at the arcade helped show us there was a bigger world to consider.
what?
>>337103431
dbz is garbage
but america had a hero, that was born just a little odd, and spent 40 years honing himself to a fine point, he practiced mercy he shouldnt have and paid for it later
he learned what loss was in a world were death was inconvenient at best
he is broken over and over, burned alive, impaled, and keeps going
i thought it was a good influence on america
it was pretty dumb, but its heart is what made it big here
america is a unique market
we love giants, flawed giants
give me a man with his gun smoking and a bullet in his arm, make troy or nolan voice him
>17million copies
there was a point where we adored those that earned the strength they had
and as life imitates
now we all want to be born special and great, we no longer had to earn it
we gave up on the thing that made us great
infinite diversity and infinite potential
now all the weebshit is about unearned power and harem
its sad
>>337094013
>not playing Jazz Jackrabbit 2
Nigger you cray
>>337103810
How is Russia weeaboo?
>>337103996
What the hell you tryna say nigga?
>>337104041
Not exactly weeaboo, they just love degenerate escapism. Apparently a huge chunk of the bronies are from Russia and we all know they love their drugs.
>>337102191
Even your precious anime agrees with me.
>>337104185
>degenerate
Back to /pol/ with you.
>>337080852
Even Metal Gear and Dark Souls have some very japanese looking shit in them. Those are probably anime games as well.
Also anime literally means 'cartoon,' so even Spider-Man is anime, really. Many western cartoons have had Japanese studios working on them.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10174749
>>337092641
>>337099260
>>337102169
>>337103673
Could someone please explain to me what the fuck a Saint Seiya is?
>>337089186
>Waifus/kawaii/husbandos things dont sale for shit here.
kekarooni you think it's just the nips making Fire Emblem sell better than ever before and move hundreds of thousands of units?
>>337077824
You mean just on here or are you talking about places thats not /v/?
I wouldn't say kids hate everything Japanese. It's all marketing, these days now that's western devs are popular and making some of the most graphically impressive games it's easy to market them visually. Couple that with the fact that it's easier to market western games to westerns (just like it's easier to market jap games to japs) and that there are more people living in America than Japan it's kinda obvious. Back in the day outside of computer games there weren't a lot of really popular devs and games for that kid market.Hell, the first really popular western console didn't come till the xbox, several generations into the console market.
>>337105595
people in solid gold, zodiac themed armor
Japanese games peaked in 2005. The old masters retired and didn't pass on their optimization magic. Sony became effectively an American company, even to the point their HQ moved overseas. Nowadays JRPGs are mostly doujinsoft, with even Final Fantasy having made the transition to ARPGs.
It'll get real interesting when J-devs can no longer use the 3DS as a crutch.
>>337106047
You do realize Fire Emblem is sold to tumblrites, right? They aren't exactly to main market and 300k is generally indie game sales.
>>337078807
I just come to /v/ normally to browse and rarely participate. But your post has hit me right in the feels, the creator of Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo has went from doing legitimately good stuff to whatever the fuck Space Dandy is.
Don't get me wrong, that show isn't terrible but it's nothing compared to Bebop and Champloo.
Anime has largely become massive amounts of pandering to the lowest common denominator when it used to be a breath of fresh air since it used to largely be a niche market that behaved like a niche market. Now they just try to pull the most consumers possible, which means being generic as fuck, dull, and mind numbing.
Same thing happens in Hollywood all the time, shit like Blade Runner or Donnie Darko do really poorly as far as movie studios are concerned, if it doesn't spoon feed the plot and messages to the viewer and constantly make low brow jokes and have sex appeal in it constantly it more than likely won't happen.
>>337106696
Outside of OVAs being dead as shit, anime is about the same. Did you read the replies he got?
>>337106619
>Fire Emblem is sold to tumblrites
nice meme
>>337079012
Go Nagai is a hell of a drug
>>337079012
>Go Nagai makes one sexuality based comic
90% of his other writings are dark as fuck and over the top action romps, they occasionally have sexual content but it's not a major focus.
Can't say the same for 90% of the shit coming out of Japan now. It almost all exists to sell sexuality to a nation full of thirsty men who want nothing to do with society and dating.
>>337104120
in that sad part of our shared spool?
that america needs a hero that has earned what he has
the composite batman
who cares though, were going into the fire, and i bet half of us call it a friend
>>337106890
Lots of Go Nagai's works are very pornographic. Hanappe Bazooka, Harenchi Gakuen, Kamasutra et cetera. He wrote doujins based on his serious works, even. Yes, that includes Devilman.
But you're right, he really doesn't give a fuck. I mean, Violence Jack only exists because parent teacher groups were getting upset about Harenchi Gakuen.He's my favorite mangaka, btw
>>337106797
it's true
>Nintendo also said, without revealing specific sales numbers, that buyers picked the more beginner-friendly Birthright over the more challenging Conquest.
Enjoy your casual tumblrites
>>337104120
are you fucking deft?
>>337097102
>mediocre story
There is no story in '98 or 2002, they're dream matches
>>337107649
I don't know what song he's trying to sing.
>>337107728
I was talking about the mediocre story in Uncharted. No story at all is better than a crappy one.
>>337107739
STUCK IN PERPETUAL MOTION
>>337105595
Its pretty good. But uses the "power of friendship" sometimes. But you should try it if you can find.
>>337096729
>association football
>association
kill yourself you cuck
>>337107930
Forgive me for not liking a skill based sport that isn't just guys crashing into each other.
>>337107134
He is a pretty fucked individual, I'm pretty certain that he is a more fucked up version of the guy who writes Gantz.
I'm certain if you could hand Freud anything done by either of them he would have a fit. They project so much of their hatred for their lives and the world around them onto their work.
>>337107795
played the first two and it's alright, just a cheesy action movie starring nolan north and it conveys that well
>>337077824
Japan changed. They went from cool creative westaboos to isolated losers, fermenting the worst their shitty brand of escapism has to offer.
>>337102185
You've already lost by misusing the word weeaboo. Fuck off, shitposter.
>>337104368
Kaiji doesn't seem like the kinda guy who likes anime.
>>337106765
If you think that you don't watch enough anime.
I've not watched a modern show to completion in years besides Jojo. That doesn't count because it's technically from the late 80s and 90s, and the anime was just recently attempted basing it entirely on the old manga volumes.
The last show I watched that was recent was No Game, No Life. It was ripe with the modern trends I hate but still enjoyable since it's core concept was still interesting enough to keep me around. To bad it's never getting a proper continuation.
The only anime I've enjoyed it recent years has been films, OVA is dead as is television anime serials for the most part.
Movies are the only thing that seems to be holding itself together, even if it's all redundant as fuck and predictable. At least it's executed well and largely lacking what makes the rest of industry awful.
>>337108328
He sits around jacking off and gambling all day, so I'm sure he watched at least some anime.
>>337108281
But what about Dark Souls?
Why do people hate wish fulfilment so much?
I like 2deep4u stuff, but sometimes after I'm done with the stress of tests and exams, I just wanna unwind with some anime babes and be pandered to.
>>337098306
this
anyone who tries to say otherwise is just a hipsterfag trying to look smart
>but m-muh PC-98
Fuck off nobody cares about that niche shit that never made it outside of Japan
The Quantity and Quality of Japanese Games in the 90s was a million times better than now and that's 100% factual
>>337108404
Exception to the rule.
People want different things out of video games. Before, video games were primarily aimed at kids, but now a more adult "mature" audience plays games.
The cartoony sorta games that Japan makes aren't wanted because people want realism now
First Person Shooters
Japan simply never jumped on the FPS craze that took over during the 6th generation so as time went on the public just sorta turned
their head away from Japan as "the makers of games that you want to play" since people wanted to play shooters and Japan just wasn't making them. That's just how Japanese business has always been, very traditional, it works and it doesn't work. Even the companies with mass appeal like Capcom and Square don't quite know how to make a shooter.
>>337108486
So because you didn't see it, it doesn't exist? Imagine if the Japanese claimed that the west is more inventive now than ever just because they only played shit like Battlefield and had never experienced Unreal Tournament.
>>337108486
>he didn't play officially released eroge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XE8BY2JUOY
>>337079227
>around 9000 messages
So this thread is about
>it's only anime if i don't like it
>anime started with cowboy bebop
>i never watch anything pre-90s
>i never played unlocalized games
>weeb/anti-weeb pissing contest
Am I right, senpai?
>>337108809
This too
Japs just don't make the call of duties or Battlefields.
>>337109076
Pretty much
>>337089186
>>337089497
>"I never played or watched anything before the mid-90s" starter pack
Behold, casuals in the truest sense
>>337109076
It was supposed to be about the Japanese video game market, but yeah, it's basically devolved into people that only played 2 or 3 games released in their region 20 years ago thinking their experts on everything. I guess I know all about Polish games because I played the Witcher.
>>337109204
Slav games suck now, remember when we they made awesome games like Tetris?
>>337109204
Does Poland even make anything other than Witcher?
Genuinely curious.
>>337109076
>i never played unlocalized games
If you're implying what I think you are, they were the niche ones in the 80s and 90s. But you know that, you're just fishing for (you)s.
>>337109290
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Video_games_developed_in_Poland
A few notable releases on there, particularly Call of Juarez
>>337109246
At least it's better than Finland. All Finnish games are Angry Birds shit now.
>>337089497
>comparing manly actors to club hosts
This image will never stop being shit.
>>337109413
>Poles did Painkiller
Neato.
>>337109485
>>337089497
It's especially funny since homosexuality used to be very common in Japan. Samurai would rape young boys all of the time. Not to mention the unprejudiced rape of women, children, and men that occurred during the Nanking massacre.
>>337109204
Oh man, PS1 and SNES babbies are guilty with this with Chrono Trigger, FF and etc.
>>337105595
Mexican DBZ
Isn't it kind of stupid to lump entire countires together? I mean, American games could mean anything from System Shock to Shantae, so how is it fair to talk about Japanese games as this all encompassing term?
>>337109413
>Call of Juarez
>Dying Light
>Hard Reset
>Painkiller
Why do they get the fame for that medieval turd again?
>>337109916
Because people only started caring this much about a developer's country of origin recently and Witcher was released around that time. I think that's the entire point of this thread.
>>337109913
>I mean, American games could mean anything from System Shock to Shantae
Except they're decades apart.
>>337109913
Because reddit merget with /v/
>>337110003
I was talking about the first Shantae, but alright. American games could mean anything from
Sunset Overdrive to Undertale.
>>337110003
SS2 came out in 1999
Shantae came out in 2002
Decades?
>>337102098
Oh please, sailor moon has definitely been surpassed many times. It's not even the best of its genre, CCS does a much better job. It's iconic because it was popular, not because it was a masterpiece.
>>337110115
>System Shock is a 1994 first-person action role-playing video game developed by Looking Glass Technologies and published by Origin Systems.
>Shantae is a platform video game developed by WayForward Technologies and published by Capcom for the Game Boy Color in 2002.
Point still stands. I haven't read the whole thread, but the discussion should have turned about cultural changes over time, which is the whole reason people aren't so happy about Nippon anymore.
>American games could mean anything from Sunset Overdrive to Undertale.
Yeah, pretty depressing. And they're not even that different, thematically speaking. Both upbeat childish games relying on toilet internet humor.
>>337110529
>Both upbeat childish games relying on toilet internet humor.
Give me some examples chief.
>>337100997
Anime is targetted to a much wider audience than it ever used to be, it's just that you didn't grow up with the current anime. There is easily three, four, five times or even more the amount of anime that is produced every season, even historically dead ones like winter get decent anime now.
>>337110837
Not surprising since they pay animators less than McDonalds workers and there are rumors they outsource to China like a lot of Japanese companies are being accused of.
>>337110632
I'm not talking memes here, mind you, but the type of humor. The tall skeleton I forget the name is a prime example of lowbrow humor, plus the writing has that nasty habit of beating you with the joke over and over, maybe intentionally. Honestly haven't seen anything from Overdrive besides that Reddit reference, but that by itself says a lot already. Maybe I'm just jaded from years of toilet internet humor exposure, so heavily reliant on poor humor and references, but fuck, that stuff really does nothing for me.
>>337109657
way less than the romans did
>>337100114
It's happening now anon.
How do you beat Revolver Ocelot in MGS1 on Extreme without getting hit? If you can't answer this question you don't know shit about videogames.
>>337111128
Do you know what toilet humor is?
>>337078350
Uncharted came out in 2007 so it's almost been 10 years for that game and people are still buying it's remaster.
>>337111309
Apparently, I don't. Luckily I can hide behind the fact that english isn't my native language.
>>337111281
>one game dictates whether someone knows games
it's like saying if you can't do a ROM infinite with Magneto you don't know video games.
>>337111017
>rumors
They actively get Korean studios to make stuff for them, so how would that be a secret, per se?
>>337111151
>I sucked 5 dicks, but my friend sucked 10 so I'm not gay
>>337112753
Korean studios are different from Chinese. The Chinese were a lot cheaper and practically slaves.
>>337099272
RoB is very tame by today's standards and you know it
>>337099281
Sailor Moon was shit
>>337099452
>Bayonetta
>good
>>337077824
Last gen happened. I don't know if they couldn't keep up with the tech, or if budgets just got too big, but it took them too fucking long to develop big games, while the West just kind of ran away with it. Then, they misunderstood the situation, and made the mistake of trying too hard to appeal to the West. They either tried to develop Western-style games themselves (which was usually a mistake), or letting Western developers make entries in their established franchises (which was an even bigger mistake).
It seems like they're refocusing, and starting to recover, but they are certainly taking their time.
>>337113657
But some of the best Jap games are westerned style, E.G. Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma.
>>337095360
They happened before. 2012 was the last good year.
Just look at all these Dark Souls 3 threads NOT in /vg/, while still reaccuring with the same OP and most likely even the same pictures. This is undertale level of autism posting and /vg/ can't contain it.
Mods don't even care at this point and Moot also left.
Nobody givesa fuck any longer
>>337077824
Toonami died.
>>337114380
But Toonami is alive again and still no one is happy. Is the magic just gone?
>>337080146
I wish
>>337095360
>people on /v/ run the entire industry
??? If you're bitching about /v/ being normie did you forget the nuzlockeshit, ragefaces, etc. Do you remember the Street Fighter and Blazbluefags fighting each other and devolving into some of the earliest generals?
>>337114496
Do kids watch it?
>>337114318
Bro, 2008 is the official "/v/ went to shit" year.
/b2.0/
>>337114736
Yeah, but i couldn't believe, it even got more shit.
The jews convinced everyone that playing western-made military FPSs are the ultimate form of video games and the goy bought that shit.
>>337116026
Is there anything the jews won't do for profits?
>>337077824
>Donkey Kong
>>337116913
Yes, Donkey Kong.
>>337101984
Ok I used the wrong term...I meant Otaku(the basement-dwelling ones)
I know that Atlus is a small company that makes niche shit primarily for the Japanese audience and that the rest of the world is only a 2nd market at best for them
Holy fuck. This thread has it all.
>angry racist shitposting
>xenophobic tripe
>rage filled pure hatred of slight differences
>>337102524
>because they don't actually have any of their own.
this is bullshit
>>337102185
Honestly I disagree with you on FF8 here
Squall is a self-insert character for the emo audience
And a lot of people cried at that cringeworthy final scene so FF8 ain't any better
>>337102042
>he bought into the marriage meme
top cuck
>>337117127
Compare America's 300 years of existence to England's 2000+ years.
>>337116961
I fucking hate that game.
>>337103067
>samurai showdown is a poor fighter
bullshit
>>337103304
No it's not
Just because it isn't directly targeted at westerners doesn't mean it's weebshit
>>337103461
Confirmed for not ever playing Breath of Fire and talking shit
>>337117772
So yet again, it's not anime because you like it? I've played BoF 1-4. Sure, not every character has an "anime" face, but most of the humanoids do.
>>337106391
>.Hell, the first really popular western console didn't come till the xbox
Holy underage
What the fuck is an Atari 2600?
Kill yourself you fucking idiot
>>337117495
get good
>>337107978
No you fucking faggot
Why are you calling it "association football" just call it "football" you fucking retard
>>337118597
Because the many Americans on /v/ will assume I'm talking about handegg
>>337102524
>Probably because they don't actually have any of their own.
But the problem with American culture is that it gets pushed fucking everywhere, not that it doesn't exist.
>>337118549
You see, this is what's wrong with western video game culture. People play crappy pixelshit on camera and they've convinced themselves that this is somehow better than "those dirty Jap games". Looks like >>337080313 was right.
>>337108893
You're retarded
I'm just pointing out all the cherrypicking
Those games were never the main market back then like they are now and you know it
>>337077824
>What the hell happened?
Memes
But people like Dark Souls, Metal Gear Solid, games made by Platinum, Nintendo games.
>>337079826
What's that show from the pic?
>>337119112
Read the filename.
>>337077925
That's not fair. You are comparing a game (systems, mechanics, risk and reward, mastery, etc) with an interactive movie. People nowadays don't want games. They want "imabadass" simulators.
It's like comparing chess with LaserTag
>>337118759
Yep, the top LPer are pretty much just casual memers who can't find a game without consulting the flavor of the month AAA or indieshit steam greenlight. When they do get a Jap games it'll get "lol Japan is weird", overshadowing any other aspect in a game
>>337094195
Spain got the original untouched since the series beginning and it continúes up to date.
>>337118191
There's nothing anime about it besides the design
The games are usually set in what seems to be a fictional universe inspired by medieval times in the Western Hemisphere(Europe mostly) and are inspired by Western Myths
It's not targeted at otakufags/weebshits who think "Nippon is the greatest"
>>337118649
Who cares what they think?
>>337119687
So it's western if it takes place in Europe and is about cool dudes? Queen's Blade also takes place in Europe and is about guys Sword fighting while beings of western legends exist in the background influencing things. They even write in Cyrillic.
That aside, most popular anime has very little to do with Japan anyway. Most DBZ characters are Chinese.
>>337101637
>Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans
>Good
No.
>>337103431
>pokemon,naruto and sailor moon were not big in the west
News to me senpai
