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www.dawnofwar.com/
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Holy fuck
ARE WE /HAPPENING/ NOW???
>Base building on DoW2's engine
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>>336293590
This some sort of God of War reboot?
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>>336293775
W40k rts m8
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>>336293980
English please.
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I refuse to get hype until I see what it is
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Started this right before I found this thread
Pls keep in last stand
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>>336294058
XD im trole like u 2
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what the ACTUAL FUCK
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>>336293590
Didn't Sega buy the rights to this?
Why is anyone hyped for something Sega makes, they gunna ruin it.
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>>336293590
BY THE EMPEROR
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NECRONS OR RIOT
DIFFERENT GAMEPLAY MECHANICS FOR CHAPTERS OR RIOT
please be good oh my god
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>>336294058
>>>/reddit/
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MECHANICUS COME ON RELIC YOU CAN DO IT PUT THEM IN THE DAMN GAME
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>>336293590
guys, i couldnt get into the wh40k universe

i like RTS games and shit my favorite is age of empires 2 but when i played dawn of war 2 i didnt like it
the top-down starcraft-esque combat scenes are nice and the factions are interesting, but the skills and the squad system is so stiff and clunky its absolutely disgusting

how do i get into these games? you all say they are great but dawn of war 2 left a terrible first impression in me
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>>336294538
Dow 2 was ok, had more fun with it
>>336294062
Is it really dow3?
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>>336293590
Reposting
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>>336294820
>he played DOW2 before DOW1
Fucking why? Go play DOW1.
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>>336293590
wow their gonna release a trailer why do i care?
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>>336295262
>wow their gonna release a trailer why do i care?

Firstly learn English, secondly we don't know the details of what's being announced and how.
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NO BASEBUILDING

NO BUY
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>>336293590
>hated DoW II
>loved DoW1

I hope this is more like the first game assuming it's a new one. The second one felt more like a moba or some shit.
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Unless I see either Necrons or Tau, I'm out.
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>>336295508
>>336295573

Go play Starcraft or some other 20 year old shit if you want that.
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>>336295573
>implying 2 wasnt better
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>>336295727
>>336295965

>not wanting to swarm the enemy with IG and orks
>not wanting to hold the line against impossible odds with your space marines
>not wanting to raid the enemy base using clever tactics and strategically destroying buildings

>wanting to have small skirmishes where squads just fall back when they get low on health
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>>336295965
I liked both, I'ved played all DOW games, but 2 was simpler
>less units to manage
>less resources to manage
>research gone
>base building gone
>maps are small
>less unit variety
>less complicated meta in general
>fewer playable races
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>>336295614
if they made every race available day 1, it would be unbalanced or take forever.
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>>336295614
>boohoo muh favourite race isnt there no buy
So what? It still has the ability to be a good game. DOW1 was GOAT and it only had SM, CSM, Orks and Eldar. Fucking babbies, honestly.
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>>336296484
The perfect reboot would be a mix of 1 and 2
>Simplification but expansion upon research
>Better troop and base management
Unless it's really, really fucking good if it doesn't have base building or it has shitty squad tactics fucking dropped
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>>336296874
bigger maps and armies is mostly what I want.
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>>336296996
DoW Apocalypse mod but less clunky and bigger maps would be paradise
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It's going to be another casualized moba-hybrid, isn't it?

If it is, it can fuck right off.
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>>336293590
Where muh degenerate heretics at?
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DoW3 with DoW1 base building please.

DoW2 mechanics can fuck off.
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It better have the IG. Best faction
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>>336297169
T Z E E N T C H


Thousand Sons a best
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>it turns out to be DoW2 DLC
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>>336297169
only fafa nurgle for me
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>>336297169
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>>336297794
I would be SO mad
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>>336297794
It's gonna be the biggest fuck you to fans ever. I'll be disappointed but I just want to see the assravaging that others will have
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>>336297169
Nurgle loves us just the way we are.
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I HAVE COME TO DESTROY YOU.
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>>336300706
>we used to rule the galaxy
>now we're firing pizza slicers at metal boxes
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>>336300561
Nurgle loves you for the bacterial flora in your colon
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>>336294062
That gave me a hearty chuckle.
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>>336294881

Not Tyranid shit again.
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>people legitimately hoping for no base building

How BAD can you be at videogames that you need the game to butcher itself for you?
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IG REPORTING IN
GLORY TO OUR LORD EMPEROR
>Better be IG Dlc
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>>336295727
Moba shit has never been good, WC2 > WC3
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>>336305937
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I hope it's not just more dlc.

I hope there's base building.
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>>336306434
What if it's base building DLC
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>Implying you can't have a good strategy game without base building

Men of war, my friends
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>>336306893
Then go play MoW.
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>>336307102
Then go play DoW 1 :^)
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>>336307159
But I already do that.
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>people's complaint with DoW2 is the lack of basebuilding
>not the awful map variety, simplistic unit variety, exclusion of races that fit the game design while including ones that don't(tyranids taking cover), total lack of mod scene beyond Elite, or that the CoH mechanics implemented are worse than in CoH
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>>336293590
THAT'S LITERALLY TOMORROW
I'M SO FUCKING HYPED

PLEASE DON'T BE EXCLUSIVELY SQUAD BASED SHIT LIKE DOW2 VANILLA
also ork campaign that's not a space marine campaign from the orkz' perspective please
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>>336306458
fuck yea please add base building back into the game.
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>>336307432
Woah there, nigga. Setting yourself up for disappointment
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>>336305163
economics 2 hard
I just want story and blow up
preferably just copy dota
--- literally every "strategy" publisher right now
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>>336307432
ITS A FUCKING TRAILER NOT THE GAME COMING OUT!

all of you heretics better calm down before the inquisition comes for you.
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I hope it's SupCom 2 but with 40k.
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>>336307703
>just copy dota
I got that bitch a 40k MOBA

Bitches love 40k MOBAs
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>>336307381
who's the fatty?
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Base building has its place.

It also doesn't have its place.

The best option is to have missions with and without it.

Also its 40K, the tabletop -never- had base building.

I mean space marines are literally made to be able to be dropped from low orbit and fuck shit up in a short amount of time before the IG and Admec roll in to set up shit.
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>>336307898
mike stoklasa
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>>336308219
Myklon B?
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>>336308121
>mfw playing WC1 and doing the dungeon missions
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>>336297169
>Slaanesh
>no penis
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>>336308251
Kike killin' Mike
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>>336308121
I'd like to see a tabletop with base building
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>>336293590
Hoping for Dow 3 with a tau and dark elder campaign, I know it's unlikely but I can hope
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>40k game based on smelly diarrhoea era 6th/7th ed instead of golden era 3rd/4th ed

I can't possibly flush this turd faster.
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>>336308310
Just for you
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>>336308346
Try Catan
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>People unironically like and demand for Tau shit
>Liking the most irrelevant race in the entire setting
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>>336308512
>the most irrelevant race
Come on now

That's probably the Jokearo
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>>336308121
>Also its 40K, the tabletop -never- had base building.
Of course it fucking doesn't. Never compare tabletop to any other media in the setting because it just doesn't work.

>I mean space marines are literally made to be able to be dropped from low orbit and fuck shit up in a short amount of time before the IG and Admec roll in to set up shit.
Space Marines DO get shit built for them using what they have available, mainly servitors. You're essentially saying every fight the Adeptus Astartes is a quick assault. Even marines need some kind of basic infrastructure and logistics for large scale operations.
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>>336308512
Tau are fine.

Also they do matter, they're right next door to ultramarines, and everything revolves around ultrasmurfs these days.
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>>336308121
>Also its 40K, the tabletop -never- had base building.
uhhh your aware that the table top revolves around rolling dice and if the game did that it would suck, video games need to be video games your argument is as autistically retarded as we all know you to be.
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>>336301489
METAL BAWKSES
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>>336308589
Don't you like the barrels of monkeys?
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>>336308674
You know what would be funny? The Tau invading Ultramar

Only to find finding the Smurfs and every one of their successor chapters waiting for them

Just look at them all. It would never happen but it amuses me anyway
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>>336308512
>>336308674
Tau are essentially contained in their little corner because they have no warp travel ability. They can expand into local space but they're fucked if they want to travel large distances, escape an enemy (Eg, a Hive Fleet), or invade someone who isn't their neighbour.
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I hope its first person instead of all this lame old 8bit top down shit from the crysis era
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>>336308809
The table top revolves around ordering units.

The game could too.

IG creating entrenched positions is as far as base building should go.

Also
>the video games don't have RNG mechanics running in the background

Im just hoping we get some large scale unit battles
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Quick, claim your model-fu before someone else does!
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>>336308512
>people take this setting so seriously they care about what races people want to see in it

Who cares? Does the sight of a blue man group member with a sniper rifle trigger you?
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>>336307468

Addendum: fuck, please replace Cadian IG graphics with Steel Legion. DKoK Regiment Pack was good as a starting act.
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>>336309173
I don't even like the tau.
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>>336309173
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So, how much like DOW1 do you want or did you like their inbetween in Retribution?

I also want to know if they are going to do the rehashed campaign stuff like Retribution, or start us off FRESH with a new squad of SPESS MARHINES. A chapter of them, and like Tau would be sick as fuck.
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>>336309879
Could use a bit more dakka, if I'm honest
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Been out of the game for a few years now

WHAT THE FUCK IS A LEGION KNIGHT THING
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>>336310146
The Knight Knight? One of Matt Ward's fever dreams
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>>336309824
Iffy on how to compromise between basebuilding. Something like CoH 1/2's basebuilding is irrelevant, but the entire removal of it feels weird. It's best to have one or the other end of the equation, and I'd rather just go back to DoW1's way of it, albeit with more variation on the way factions build things.

I'd love for suppression and squads to stay the way they are in CoH 2, where retreating is less of a get out of jail free card and suppression is a bit less wonky. Keep DoW 2's presentation and attention to VA's, and the excellent army painter. Something like CoH 2's commanders might be neat, but then again it wouldn't hurt to just stick with same old factions.

Then the hardest part of all: and in my opinion the most important is for Relic to fix their fucking pathfinding. It makes DoW 1 unplayable for me, and even in CoH 2 it's still bad. Jesus.
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>>336309879
Good luck painting that then when it's assembled.
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>>336310270
>>336310146
No he's talking about the new Imperial Knights, aka babby titans admec traded to planets for mineral wealth and are owned by noble houses who fight for the honor of their houses.
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>>336309824
DOW1 is way better than DOW2. So I hope DOW3 is more like DOW1.

>>336310375
That's half the fun anon. Besides, one word, magnets.
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>B-but DoW2 is just a skirmish between 3 squads
Stop fucking playing against AI you faggot
https://youtu.be/1i1z_7uyndE?t=28m4s
(28:04, if linking does work)
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>>336310270
is that a space marine inside of a space marine?
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>>336310030
just for you.
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DOW2 cover mechanic a shit
Strike team gameplay a shit
Last Stand a shit
DOW2 a shit
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>>336310871
The Marine Marine is what happens when you want to make a middle ground between a Space Marine and a Dreadnaught while forgetting what Terminators are
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>>336310871
Yes, yes it its anon.
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>>336294820
>DOW2 before DOW1
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>>336308121
It's a good thing DOW isn't a tabletop adaption retard
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I cant wait for more dow2 dlc, relic!

So hype to see the new dlc trsiler tomorrow
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>>336308460
>Only one penis
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H
Y
P
E

FUCK YES
BACK TO BASE BUILDING PLEASE
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>>336310756
>skip to random moment
>its a fight where one side is going to win and the other hits retreat
>skip to another random moment
>its a fight where one side is going to win and the other hits retreat
>skip to another random moment
>its merry go round resource point faggotry
Looks fun.
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GET HYPED MOTHER FUCKERS!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVnJH2scIVk
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>>336308121
>Also its 40K, the tabletop -never- had base building.
Why do people use this as an argument

If I wanted to play the table top I would fucking play the table top, or play one of the many 40k tabletop simulators on PC

People want a video game that offers them something that the tabletop cant. And thats fuckhuge fun battles with blood, guts and bullets everywhere.
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>>336311948
Slaanesh is about self discovery. You gotta break in first, get them over the hurdle, make them realize they love the dick.

Then they'll find their own way up the metaphorical and literal mountain of dicks, taking it at their own pace until they're finally ready to crown themselves Queen of Penises
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>>336308589

I have to respect them on some level because one of their laser rings saved my Rogue Trader during a game of Inquisitor.
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Do people honestly expect any kind of base building focus from a relic RTS? Even after the past 6 years? Even considering their first RTS was completely devoid of any kind of base building in the first place?
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>>336312549
>does anyone expect a repeat of that one base building game with the three base building expansions?

Well, yes
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>just want a 40k reskin of xcom
>it'll never happen
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>>336294062
if that's real, it's AMAZING

I bet they're happy as pigs in shit right now, since people seem to really like Battlefleet Gothic and Space Hulk is coming out soon
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>>336312549
There has been constant screaming about it since DOW2's launch

>>336312621
Battlefleet gothic Armada
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>>336312549
I dont expect base building, but I do expect they will go in a different direction from DoW2 and focus back on large scale fights.

DoW2 was an attempt to make a super competitive esport no fun allowed game and it failed miserably online because of it. I dont think they would bother to make the same mistake.
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>>336312804
>werkshop
Nay, anon
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>>336312807
EVERY SCREENS GONE RED!! THAT MEANS I'M SUPER FAST!!!
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>>336312761
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>XCOM 2
>BFG:A
>Dark Souls 3
>Total Warhammer
>Blood and Wine
>Mankind Divided
>DoW 3 announcement
Is gaming finally good again?
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>>336312908
Not him but I hate how impact-less everything feels like in that.

Even Starsector has more engaging combat.
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>>336312838
I won't be expecting much considering they have clearly defined their take on the RTS formula with CoH, DoW2, and CoH2.

At best we'll see something like the Brits or OKW from CoH2, and that's as high as my expectation are willing to go. Small scale (squad based) combat will be the default, at the very least.
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>>336312927
The only one that might be decent is Dude Sex 4
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>>336312838
>DoW2 was an attempt to make a super competitive esport

No it wasn't, it was an attempt to make it a vaugely balanced game. The problem in today's world is that if you -have- to balance around the top end of players, because they'll write a guide that tells everyone how to break every matchup and then your game is dead.

The only RTS that didn't have that problem in the last few years was Wargame, and that was only during the ESL tournaments when people were playing for money and keeping their strategies quiet, and it didn't last long enough for everyone to dissect that shit properly.
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>>336313289
>Small scale (squad based) combat will be the default
Lets hope not, its awful.

>>336313315
>No it wasn't, it was an attempt to make it a vaugely balanced game
Thats just a consequence of them wanting the esport scene. There was a massive amount of time and money spent by Relic trying to foster that scene which didnt exist for DoW1. And the gameplay was obviously designed around that as well.
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It's just a Last Stand DLC
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>>336312927
>Rehash
>Shit
>Rehash
>Good
>Shit
>Shit
>We dont even know what it is yet
Nope, gaming is still fucked.
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>>336313523
No it's just a fact that you literally can't not do that in this day and age or your game will die.

Wargame is the last RTS that managed to get around that and it's because it's the only half-milsim half arcade RTS around to provide milporn.

If your game doesn't meet a certain minimum level of balance within a month the dominent strategy will at least begin to emerge, and that's how the game dies. Most RTS players that aren't playing starcraft are casuals who don't want to play the same strategy over and over again. And people like all the races being viable.

Battlefleet gothic's biggest success is that it is vaguely balanced.
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It's gonna be another last stand here

You all are gonna freak the fuck out
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>>336313793
>No it's just a fact that you literally can't not do that in this day and age or your game will die.
>You cant have fun or your game will die
I dont think you know how gaming works. The last few years of RTS has been nothing but balanced games focusing on competitive esport scenes and have all failed, you are are objectively wrong.
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>>336313859
But we'll have fun doing it
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>>336306274
UNFF THICKER
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>>336313793
Gothic isn't balanced it's just the devs are quick to nerf
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>>336313793
>Battlefleet gothic's biggest success is that it is vaguely balanced.
Battlefleet isnt even mildly balanced, its a total clusterfuck.

People like it because its big ships with big guns shooting at other big ships

Also ramming
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>>336313623
literally shit taste
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>>336313921
Do you have fun if every match of say imperium vs chaos the chaos player builds X at 0:50, Y at 1:30 and attacks your base at 3:30 and you can't effectively fight back? because that's what poorly balanced games are like. In grey goo the beta vs not beta. Matchup was pointless becuase if the beta player was good he'd win and that's that.
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>>336313623
>total war warhammer
>good
nigga it aint even out yet
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2 was a better game
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>>336314025
There's no matchup that's always fucked no matter what and a variety of strategies are capable of being functional, granted the system they have means that it'll take probably a few months for any overwhelmingly powerful strategies to become apparantt.
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1 was a better game
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>>336314119
No one gives a shit what the top 1% does.

A fact lost on you and every RTS developer who has made an RTS game in the last few years which flopped as expected because they care more for esport than 99% of the playerbase.
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Regicide is the better game
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>>336314070
>eating processed shit
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3 will be a better game
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>>336314337
Not him, but you're an idiot
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Westside Connection is the better game
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>>336314416
Great ad hominem
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>>336314337
The top 1% write guides, that shit trickles down.

In wargame while no one had solved SAM, everyone adopted the ESL dominent strategies because the people that care and follow it started doing it and curb stomping, so everyone else started following suit to compete. Even gold league players in starcraft have basic timings and build orders down, even if their macro is awful.
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>>336314373
>Total war: warhammer
>Not processed shit

Okalie dokalie, neighbor
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>>336314469
Welcome to /v/, now get out
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>>336314481
No one gives a flying shit about Wargame either, stop pretending its comparable.

We were talking about how DoW2 is a shitpile of a game, stop trying to save face by moving the goalposts.
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>People just want tower defense games instead of RTS games
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>>336314548
All you're proving is that im right, if you cant even come up with a single valid rebuttal.

So thanks for that.
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>>336314661
>People just want mobas instead of RTS games

Capping victory points isn't cool
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>>336314612
You postulate DoW 2 is shit because of "esports" I'm asserting that it's not "esports" that draws them to make their game this way, it's the reality of the age we live in where information spreads rapidly, and there is a number of people who play games to win and will solve your game, and then this knowledge will spread. And that will kill your game, forcing you to make your game the kind of balanced game you say is ony made this way for esports and I am doing this with examples. It's directly relevent.
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>>336314481
>The top 1% write guides, that shit trickles down.
No it doesnt. Even in games like SC the vast majority of players really dont give a shit about what the top players are doing. At best they will know some basic strategies that might look a bit like what top players do, but the cast majority of the gameplay will be them fucking around doing what they want.
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>>336314698
To be fair.
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>>336314838
>"esports" that draws them to make their game this way,
And you are objectively wrong by Relics own doing. End of discussion.
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>>336314698
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>>336295508
WHY THE FUCK WOULD SPACE MARINES BUILD BASES THEY JUST FUCKING DROP IN ON DROP PODS.
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>>336293590

If it doesn't have fuckhuge swarms like in DoW1 I'll struggle to give a shit. DoW2 was only entertaining for the 40k fluff.
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>>336314856
Have you played starcraft since like wol? no one -just- fucks around in 1v1s

I've played almost every RTS that's come out in the last few years and they've all followed this rough patten. People start playing around shit that stomps them.

>>336314954
compelling arguement, 10/10 would submit for peer review.
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Last Stand was better than the base game of DoW2. They should have heavily expanded it instead.
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>>336315145
>Have you played starcraft since like wol? no one -just- fucks around in 1v1s
And the majority dont play 1v1s

They play Vs AI, Coop Vs AI, or 2v2+ in casual
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>>336315306
Pretty much this, I remember doing WC3 4v4's for days when I wasn't fucking around with custom games.
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NO FUCKING WAY

IS THIS TRULY HAPPENING
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>>336314856

Are you implying that developers SHOULD NOT balance the game around the player-base that know the game best?
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>>336293590
I SHOULD HAVE NEVER DOUBTED HIM

PRAISE BE HIS NAME, OUR BENEVOLENT EMPEROR
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>>336315306
There's more people ranked for 1v1 than there are for teams, and most of those people with team ranks will have 1v1 ranks.

You don't know shit about modern RTS demographics, this isn't the early 2000s anymore.
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>>336315543
Developers should balance around what would be best for the majority.

Following what only the top 1% enjoys does not make a good game. DoW 2 proved that.

>player-base that know the game best?
They know what the best is for the top 1%, not for the 99% of players.

>>336315653
Because the majority dont play ranked either. 1v1 is niche and has always been niche in RTS.
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>>336315697
>Because the majority dont play ranked either. 1v1 is niche and has always been niche in RTS.

No that's the only thing that's left for RTS. If you want a team game, you play a team game. You go play LoL or DoTA.
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>>336315653
>You don't know shit about modern RTS demographics, this isn't the early 2000s anymore.
You mean when RTS was successful because it focused on the majority of the player base which was not competitive 1v1s?

Yeah, fuck those times, who wants successful RTS game anyway.
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>>336315810
>No that's the only thing that's left for RTS
Its not, at all. The vast majority of RTS games see their play time in campaigns, vs AI, coop and in team battles in non ranked game modes.
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>>336315697
Also

>balance without thinking about the top 1% as they're the smallest portion of the population
>they start stomping with a single strategy, then the top 5% start doing it, then the top 10%, then top 20%, 40%, etc.

This shit does trickle down, there is tons of evidence to suggest this.
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>admech/skitarri faction
>newcron faction
>chaos demons
>harlequins
Fucking hype. I hope they put Sisters in it again though, they've always been my favorite. Also this is gonna be rad for tabletop simulator, we can rip the new models and have more 40k armies to play in TTS
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Bunch of special snowflake faggots I tell ya.
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>>336315974
>>they start stomping with a single strategy, then the top 5% start doing it, then the top 10%, then top 20%, 40%, etc.
I love how you dont even understand how this is an impossibility
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>EMPEROR TIER
IG

>PATRICIAN TIER
ORCS

>GREAT TIER
CHAOS

>YAWN TIER
SPESS MARINES

>CHINK TIER
TYRANIDS

>ELF FAGGOTRY TIER
ELDAR

>EDGY FUCK TIER
TAU

>THAT KID TIER
NECRONS
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>>336307812
They didn't even try
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>>336315697
>Developers should balance around what would be best for the majority

What would be best for the majority isn't balance, it's learning how to play the damn game first. If you balance based on the players that have not explored the games mechanics in their entirety, you get redundancy. literally CoH2 4v4 80% of the players I play with don't even know how to even use mines, and blob the entire game.
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>>336315974
>>they start stomping with a single strategy, then the top 5% start doing it, then the top 10%, then top 20%, 40%, etc.
Pretty hard for anyone to stomp someone who doesnt play online, which is the vast majority of RTS matches.

Fact is online play for RTS games has never been that popular, least of all in comparison to other genres. Its why AI is such a common issue in RTS games, because most people play against the AI rather than people. The only other times the majority plays with others is when they are playing against AI with their friends.
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Interestingly enough, it looks like they're pushing Tyranids right away this time, instead of starting it off as the usual Marines, Chaos reskins, orks, and eldar. I wonder what other starting faction's they'll have.
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>>336316197
>THAT KID TIER
>Puts IG above all others
Hate to break it to you faggot, but you're 'that kid' at all the shops.
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>>336316274
>What would be best for the majority isn't balance, it's learning how to play the damn game first. If you balance based on the players that have not explored the games mechanics in their entirety, you get redundancy.
Thats a lot of things you are saying without saying anything at all.

Fact is the top 1% has never been important outside the top 1%. RTS games thrived when developers made the games with the majority in mind, not esports.
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>>336315820
The demographics from 20 years ago are the same as they are now. As are the realities of game development.

>>336315952
Yeah the people playing AoE 2 and Starcraft 2 to this day are totes just playing compstomps and campaign.

I'm not saying those thigns don't exist, but it's ignoring the evolution of the general skill of the RTS player, scripted campaigns are pretty much the only way to appeal and those are expensive because anyone that's still playing RTS games are getting good at them, back in the early 2000s it was cheap to make that relatively. Unless you're willing to throw big money and hope for big returns on a fancy campaign, you'll never get campaign appeal in the same way you used to.
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>It's happening
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>>336316470
>scripted campaigns are pretty much the only way to appeal
Sheeze, you are totally detached from reality

You spend so much time focusing over what the top players do you have completely lost focus on what the majority does.
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>>336316197
roleplaying spergs:
orks
ig
space marines
chaos

irrelevant perverts:
sisters of battle
dark eldar
eldar

annoying niche fanbase that probably includes both of the above but thankfully there's not that many of them:
necrons
tau
tyranids
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>>336316470
>Yeah the people playing AoE 2 and Starcraft 2 to this day are totes just playing compstomps and campaign.
How is this even in doubt

The vast majority of people do play vs AI one way or another.
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>May 3rd
>Ends at 3pm
>Youtube video is 30 seconds long
I hold that niche game companies are much too corny to not have this be an announcement of DoW 3.
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>>336316893
i'm on to you motherfucker
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>>336316675
The only rts games that made big sales since 2006 all were expensive and featured heavily scripted campaigns. If you don't have the money for that then you fall back on well balanced multiplayer.
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>>336317026
>The only rts games that made big sales since 2006 all were expensive and featured heavily scripted campaigns
They were not heavily scripted or big expensive campaigns at all. Do you even live in this reality? Seriously, im concerned about how someone can be so detached from everything.
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>>336293706
>base building
God I hope not.
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>>336317026
>The only rts games that made big sales since 2006 all were expensive and featured heavily scripted campaigns. If you don't have the money for that then you fall back on well balanced multiplayer.
Completely false

Even games pre 2006 didnt do a 'one or the other' mentally. Or were even well balanced.
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>>336317168
What rts games do you think sold big since then?

CNC 3, Starcraft 2, Red Alert 3 games with big flashy campaigns.

Slightly behind that you have the multiplayer focused games.
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>>336316982
Anon I have no idea what you're talking about, everyone knows skeletons don't exist. Don't discriminate against me, just because someone stole my skin.
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>>336297169
CHAOS UNDIVIDED REPORTING
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>>336316197
AdMech fucking represent.
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>>336317329
None of those games had 'big flashy campaigns'

They also all had a huge multiplayer focus
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>>336317329
>CNC 3, Starcraft 2, Red Alert 3 games with big flashy campaigns.
>Slightly behind that you have the multiplayer focused games.
Nigga what, they all have shitty campaigns and more multiplayer than campaign focused gameplay.

>SC2
>Campaign focus
My sides are in orbit. The entire campaign is nothing but cutscenes and tutorials for the MP.
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>>336317492
>the game that hired Tim curry didn't have a big flashy campaign
>starcraft 2, the single most flashy RTS campaign ever made didn't have a flashy campaign

Okay good to know you're talking out your ass.
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>>336317492
>Tiberium Wars, SC2, RA3
>didn't have "big flashy campaigns"
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>>336317598
>>336317610
>those campaigns
>big or flashy
They were average as fuck, and in the case of SC2 was literally a tutorial.
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>>336317354
God I really hope Admec and Skitarii get in, I want my derpy overpowered crab tanks
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>>336317573
I never said campaign focus, I said it had one, and it does. It has big flashy cutscenes, story integration into the missions, unconventional mission design, an overarching upgrade system to mould your army over the 30 missions.

It's literally got the biggest RTS campaigns made as a whole.
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>>336297128
>no base building = moba
fucking kill yourself
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>>336317573
>>336317492

>SC2 did not have a flashy expensive campaign
nigga, if SC2's campaign wasn't flashy PLEASE tell us an RTS game that did.
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>>336317610
>>336317598
>have a campaign
>ITS BIG AND FLASHY
The only RTS with a non flashy campaign would be AoE and maybe a handful others, literally just text and a handful of voice overs. Everything else is flashy tier.
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>>336317691
>They were average as fuck, and in the case of SC2 was literally a tutorial.

>the campaign where half the units you have aren't in mp, and the other half don't play anything like their MP versions
>tutorial
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>>336317754
There's nothing I'd like better than some fucking cool microsoft sam priests to lead.
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>every single DoW thread is ruined by DoW 1 v 2 discussion
Can we all just agree DOW2 was shit and leave it at that
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>>336297169
Berserk's shitty God Hand
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Where's the ork shit desu

The best race
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>>336316197
>Tau
>Edgy
What?
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>>336317879
>Can we all just agree DOW2 was BETTER and leave it at that

yeah we can
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>>336316703
>cw eldar
>perverts
uhhhh
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>>336317938
I just recently read Berserk. It feels like it's just my autistic fan side peeking out, but did anyone else think it seemed at least a bit inspired by 40K? I mean, at least in the area of the god hand.

>>336318038
Given the recent Rise of the Beast series. I'd like it if they did serious orks, instead of funny ones as usual.
Like, give a whole DLC to the Blood Ravens fighting off some ages in planning revenge WAAAGH from Gorgutz.
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Might of the Astra Militarum Tier
>Armageddon Steel Legion
>Elysian Drop Troops

Good Tier
>Death Korps of Krieg
>Catachan Jungle Fighters
>Mordian Iron Guard
>Valhallan Ice Warriors

Want-to-See-Represented Tier
>Chem Dogs
>Acid Dogs
>Penal Legion
>Vostroyan Firstborn
>Tanith First and Only
>Harakoni Warhawks

Been There Done That Tier
>Cadian Shock Troops
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>>336318203
It's a pretty common themes. Nothing specifically 40k about it.

>>336318050
I actually liked DoW 2's campaign a lot more, felt way more fluffy having like 12 space marines do the work.
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>>336318203
http://berserk.wikia.com/wiki/God_Hand

A shitty source if there ever was one, but:

>Most of the God Hand's names are inspired by Science-Fiction novels. It is also worth noting that the design of the God Hand characters show similarity to Cenobites from the Hellraiser movie series, based on Clive Barker's novella, of which Miura is believed to be a fan.

Ubik is from a Phillip K. Dick book, the rest are from .. other sci fi shit. I think it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that Miura, being into sci-fi, would know and take inspiration from WH40K, specifically the over-the-top grimdark bullshit in it.
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>>336318203
I would buy 10 dollar DLC campaigns detailing the exploits of individual chapters/warbands/WAAAGHs/cadres/garrisons
as long as each one brought new gameplay mechanics and maps
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The base building in 1 was fucking nothing.

The basic gameplay between 1 and 2 was generally the same, you send some faggots out to cap points to generate resources to make more guys

The difference is DOW2 focused entirely around map control while DOW1 was base building and turret spam, I was glad they removed the structure grind off the req point capturing in 2 and gave turrets a pop cap.

I for one hope they focus on unit strategy and micro rather then unit spam and macro, one of the reasons I prefered WC3 over SC1/2 was because individual units were more important, and that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be base building, just shouldn't be the main focus of the game outside of basic upgrades and defenses.
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>read page source to figure out what's going on
>Curiosity is the womb of treachery
Okay, that's neat
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>>336318692
So you want dow 3 to be like CoH2?
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>>336312804
>werkshop
Can you even read?
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>One of my best DoW 1 memories
>3 V 3
>Me as chaos, other guys are tau and marines
>Work enemies down until just one is left
>IG with massively fortified base, none of us can even penetrate it
>Wait ages, get my greater daemon out, fly it behind his lines, and win us the game
Good shit, I hope this announcement is fun.
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>>336318818
I want it to be a mix of DoW 2 and Wargame.

The deck building system combined with individual unit and skill focus would be a great way to make it like the tabletop.
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>>336314198
>>336314290
/thread
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>>336318692
dumb animeposter
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>>336318804
Is that supposed to mean something?
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>>336318981
It's a comment in the page source basically saying "nice try". Also it's one of the imperial tenets, saying that curiosity always leads to ruinous powers.
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>>336312804
fucking dumb cunt
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>Man, I'll finally play some DoW1 online to celebrate today
>2v2 is probably a nice format
>I get double rushed by scouts and sisters of battle
This is why I don't try to enter older RTS where the meta has already been defined
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>>336318907
I've never touched Wargame, but from I've read it's a system similar to End War?
that would be fucking awesome
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>>336318981
It means get ready for some Iron Warriors
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>>336318907
I have never heard of anyone with worse taste than you
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>>336318818
Never played it.

But from my experience I liked DOW2 better then DOW1, and I have well over 500 hours on each game's various expansions.

DOW2 was at its peak for me when I could play shit like guard and entrench my positions or play marines and just take the point and drop pod in.
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>>336294754
the adeptus mechanicus wouldnt even be different enough. fuck off faggot
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>>336318907
That sounds really good, hope they make it customizable too
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>>336318907
I could dig it, though Wargame is very distant while 40k is a lot more about seeing all the visceral combat up close
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I dont really remember playing either game so i dont remember if they were good or not.

Should i replay 1 or 2?
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>>336319170
>Not wanting robobros
>not wanting chicken legged jousters
>Don't want radiactive basic troops that litterally give their enemies radiation poisoning
>Dont want skitarii rangers who are running around with big fucking anti-tank rifles
>Dont want derpy crab tanks
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>>336319407
Yes
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>>336318907
>wargame, a vehicle focused large scale RTS
>DoW 2, a small scale infantry focused RTS about controlling key chokepoints

this is an awful idea, and deck building is so far from the realm of either game I can't see why you would want it, or why being closer to TT is a goal when TT right now is awful

40k and Wargame isn't a bad idea, but I wish everyone would remember this is the DoW series and not CoH, Wargame, or anything else

stick to what it does good and save the rest for a different series
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>>336319424
>a third fucking human faction

no. I really dont want that
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>>336317691
I think you need to go to the head doctor anon.
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>>336319104
Don't know about end war. But the way wargame worked was you had a bunch of catagories (infantry, tank, support, etc) and those contained things you'd expect, infantry, tanks, artillery, AA, etc. You have so many points to build a deck and each slot costs a certain number of points with the first infantry unit costing 1. And each card had with it it's own cost, so it would cost 1 point to put a unit of say US Marines, which come in a transport, so lets say a humv, so the marines cost 15 points to deploy and the humv 10, so in the field you pay 25 to deploy them and you got points for owning bits of the map (mape control = economy). And on top of the cost they would have an availability. So you could have say 20 units of US marines from 1 card, or 30 units of normal riflemen, the riflemen would be cheaper, etc. Now I picked infantry becuase I'm a retard and made it more complicated.

So say you want to put 3 tanks in your deck, it costs 1 for the first tank, 2 for the second and 3 for the third, so 6 of your say 60 deck building points. And you could have up to however many cards they would let you, so the M1A2 they would only let you have 1, so you could only take one, but the M1, you could take all 3 cards of that if you really wanted.
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>>336308121
>I mean space marines are literally made to be able to be dropped from low orbit and fuck shit up in a short amount of time before the IG and Admec roll in to set up shit.

You realize in DoW1 that space marines were always dropped in right? You could deep strike them via drop pods and when you "built" them normally at the barracks a drop pod lands on the barracks, that is them.
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>>336319587
They're only 45% human at most.
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>>336319587
They aren't human, they're machines!
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>>336319487
I think he meant a deck system like wargame but the scale of coh
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>>336319725
Pic unrelated, I thought it was the mechanicus table of technobable
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>>336319587
>third
You mean fourth
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>>336319768
Basically yeah.

You could even transpose the deck "type" concept.

>play space marines
>Space Wolves
>deck restrictions change

For those that don't know, in wargame you would pick say

>bluefor/PACT
>nation
>deck type, i.e. motorised which got less tank options but could take more, better trained infantrty in wheeled transports and recon vehicles/infantry.
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>>336316197
>Tau
>Any edge at all

HURRRRRRRRRRR
>>
>all the DOW2fags ITT

I fear for the future.

All DOW3 needs to be is DOW1 on a better engine. An engine that can actually support 8 players deploying hundreds of units.
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>>336320325
>hundreds of space marines

plz no I don't want an entire chapter to die every match.
>>
Know what I want? Daemons, CSM and LatD as separate factions, all further divded by each of the four Gods and Undivided.
Bam, 15 new factions.

>>336319587
They're radically different from each other, have different goals. motivations, ways to do war, etc. It's new.
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>>336320285
>not knowing about the "Join or Die" thing
>not knowing about the forced sterilizations
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>>336320384
>hundreds
>a chapter

The Ultramarines consist of around 100k marines. I think they can afford a few hundred in an especially grueling fight.
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>>336318907
>A Wargame style 40k game
>units are lifted from Imperial Armor books as well as the codexs

Yes please
Wargame already plays like a tabletop so it would probably work really well and would probably be the closest thing we would ever get to a W40K: Apocalypse or Epic 40k game.
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>>336320561
>100k marines
No, dude. They are 1000, no more. They do have a metric fuckton of successor chapters but they do their thing independently from the Ultras.
Same applies for every chapter with successor chapters except for the Unforgiven.
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>>336320561
The ultramarines have less than 40 tac squads.

Are you high?
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>>336294881
you can see the tyranids in the bottom right corner
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Oh shit lol the amount of coverage on social media reporting this as God Of War 4 is hilarious
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>>336320285
>muh greater good

go to bed
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>>336320982
what coverage?
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>>336320556
How cruel. The Imperium would never do anything that horrible.
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>>336312373
pretty grim dark 40k/40k
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>>336320556
>>not knowing about the forced sterilizations

Literally not canon.

And join or die is rare, there's 0 reason to do it usually as what they do is they just keep trying to trade and offer protection (fringe imperium worlds are often entire generations away from any major response so deals with local alien powers to protect them is common)
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Is anyone else seeing the constantly growing pile as the Throne of Skulls?
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>>336321469
That could indeed be a pile of skulls but there seems to be a distinct lack of an actual throne in that picture anon.
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>>336314337
I agree, focusing on the ESL player base and not on the fun(koop vs KI,big battles,engaging gameplay,innovative gameplay, asymmetric gameplay, singleplayer Campaign) aspect is totally forgotten and mostly the downfall of all new age RTS games.
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>>336321469
>>336321657
bottom lower right, tyranids. But you know the chaos gods are up to something as well.
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>>336321469
>constantly growing pile
holy shit i didnt notice that it grew a bit
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>Tyranids and Chaos
I sure hope it's NOT Shadowbrink.
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>>336315489
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>>336321469
That'd be pretty interesting
People theorize that it's Tyranid spores falling, but if that's actually a clip of Khorne's realm, with all the skulls capped by his followers constantly billowing down, that'd be some cool shit.
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>>336321657
the beanbag of skulls doesn't have the same ring to it. Give him a break though its like trying to make a castle out of dry sand.
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>>336322072
Where are you looking at?
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It'd be neat if they stayed away from the typical

SM, Eldar, Orks and Chaos.

A game set on a Tau controlled human world where the local human population was turning to chaos and they were trying to control it would be cool tho.
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>>336315543
They should stop wasting resources on balance the shit out of the game so just no 100% autistic korean can't exploit the 0.001 more attack dmg one unit has over the other in a 1v1 ESL match.

They should just focus on a big and extensive warhammer 40k experience with good representation and great unit diversity and the balance should come second or third place.
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>>336293590
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>>336322092
It's kinda not bloody or red enough for that.
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>>336322246
on the mountain shape closest to you you can see the dots slightly bouncing back up. they're not falling into the crater their falling onto it.
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>>336320561
>The Ultramarines consist of around 100k marines
What is this, the Great Crusade? It's current millenium.
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>>336322246
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>>336318907
I don't like such arguments, but when you want the game to be like the tabletop, why not play the tabletop instead? In my opinion the video game segment of the WH40k universe should take advantage of its virtual nature and show us aspects of the Universe that are not possible to represent in real life (aka big ass huge battles with millions of participants)
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>>336322586
>no game ever will focus on the Horus Heresy
Even though it's top tier material.
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>>336322695
Being like =/= being the same. and keeping more tabletop elements keeps more fluff elements which are nice to have.

Mechanics that reinforce the fluff are the best.
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>>336322383
Imperium is central, tho, and the Tau are just a fringe sect for pandering to you weeaboos.
If anything, I'd be down with IG, Orks, Necron, and then Eldar. You get the Imperial Bureacracy, the savagery of the orks, the machinations of the eldar, and then the ancient evil of the necrons. Then you can shit out some adamentine balls and hold the line just in time for Space Marines to show up and steel the glory.
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>>336322092
I think its Imperial Guardsmen being dropped from orbit to secure a beachhead on some planet. A few million more and the mound should be secure enough to safely land a ship on.
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>>336322824
No one gives a shit about powerlevels, what you've just described is the most stock 40k game humanly possible.
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>>336322903
Found the butthurt Guee'abo
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>W40K is an UK franchise
>amerifats completely miss the point and think it's epic xd to slap american politicians on its key figures
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>>336323090
>they should try something different
>nah lets just make the same game again.
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>>336323117
>40k
If it worked once, we can do it again and again and again and again
AND PEOPLE WILL STILL BUY IT
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I'm going to bed now, and by the time I wake up, DoW 3 will have been announced

Today was a good day
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>>336322817
I'm biased here but, when i remember correctly about the 20 minutes i played Wargame, in both games you presented you only control a small number of units which is just like the same as the Tabletop.
I have the urge to see epic battles on a much wider scale in the warhammer videogame universe. The Ultimate Apocalypse mod scratches on that for example.
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>>336323262
Why aren't you waking up at 7AM PDT, anon?
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>>336323248
>not wanting to play an RTS/RPG game in the style of men of war where you're a few squads of tau soldiers with small amounts of armour and a battlesuit while you hunt out chaos cults and have firefights in the corridors of a hive city.
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>>336323314
I am
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>>336323332
that's xcom, not an RTS
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>>336323332
>wanting to play Tau
Anon, there is a central point I'm making here that you cannot seem to overcome.
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>>336323480
That you suck large quantities of cock?
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>>336293590

I'd be happy if it was a proper space RTS, not like battlefleet gothic armada but more like star trek armada, i.e. with base and unit building.
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>yfw it's another Last Stand character
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>>336323557
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>>336323557
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>>336323557
I'd be happy to have a Canoness in The Last Stand

not as happy as if it actually is DoW3 though
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>>336323551
The human form is perfect
How do you like the shriveled, gray form of your master, xenos bootlick?
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>>336318981
Not sure about that but the == $0 is interesting.
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>people expecting Sisters when they are all but Squat'd by now
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>>336293590
>Dark Eldar playable with those new models
I would never play another faction
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>>336323779
More like hoping for Sisters and they've just been ignored, not squated

Same used to apply to the Dark Eldar
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>>336323779
plastics soon
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Those mother fuckers....
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>>336294062
HA!
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>>336308589
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Tarellians
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>>336324045
"Plastic Sisters soon" or "Sisters update soon" is to 40K what "HL3 soon" is to vidya.

It's not gonna happen.
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>>336324434
shhhhhh

plastics soon
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>>336324061
Oh wow. Well played.
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What is going on here?
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>play BFG
>you can't go "up" or "down"
What?
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i hope its firewarrior 2
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>>336319682
Except you are forgetting veterancy which fucked everything up.

So you COULD bring 5 M1 Abrams or you can up the experience of the the abrams because the basic model cant hit shit so you get 4 with rank 1 experience. Or you can do it again and get 3 for rank 2 experience.

Now you need to juggle what units you can bring by limited deck space, expense, availability, and experience but you still need to make sure you bring units to do all the jobs needed (capture, AA, indirect, Anti-infantry, anti-tank, recon). This is all something that is decided before you have even found an opponent.

Wargame's deck system is unnecessarily complex.
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Why do Guee'aboos keep on thinking they're majorly relevant to the setting?
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>>336320814
Not to mention you have a company of nothing but Assaults and a company of nothing but Devastators because fuck Guillman was an idiot.

Seriously what the fuck is 8th Company suppose to ever do that?
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>>336323090

why did the tau put a grill on his face?
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What do you think is better for a mobile light vehicle army, Orks or Deldar?
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IS IT FINALLY HAPPIBING

>>336294062
>Werkshop
Oh...
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Does BFG have any sort of ship paint customization?
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>>336325753
It was Phaedra, not the Tau. They were barely on Phaedra, anyways. Wintertide died long ago, and the Fire Caste wanted their turn to wage war, rather than let the Water Caste hold sway on Tau expansion.
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>>336326052
Not currently but the developers posted on their road map they are working on it so expect to see it "within a few months"
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>>336323090
>You came to the wrong neighbourhood, Gue'la.
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>>336325875
Oh tabletop? DE
Assuming you use the Corpsethief Claw and a shit load of flyers / venoms you'll wipe everything off the table
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>>336326826
>Corpsethief Claw
But that's not a vehicle.
Is using a Raider and then a bunch of reavers and venoms not viable on its own?
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Do we know what the announcement is yet? Hope its dow3 [spoilers]its probably another dlc for retribution[/spoilers]
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>>336328286
No word yet, we're going to have to wait until tomorrow to see what the fuss is. I dearly hope it's DoW3, but we have to be cautious so as to not be let down. Man, do I love riding the hype train though.
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Only thing better than Dawn of War 3 would be Horus Heresy RTS game, cuz fuck the other races, power armor for all.
Also, primarchs.
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>>336294349
Alien isolation was fantastic and total war hammer looks great sega might be respecting it's IP now
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>>336328667
This
I would LOVE a horus heresy video game with all the primarch I would buy that shit even if it was 80 bucks
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Please let it be an updated DoW 1
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>>336329182
There's no way they could do all 18 legions though, right?
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>>336327880
Not really.
CC provides you with a meaty core to the list - and it's scares the shit out of your opponent and draws fire away from the paperthin vehicles.

Here's my 2k list m8 - take from it what you will, i love playin it.
>HQ
Succubus; Archite Glaive, Armour of Misery - 110

>Troops
10x Warriors; Splinter Cannon - 95
10x Warriors; Splinter Cannon - 95

>Elite
4x Incubi; Klaivex - 90

>Fast Attack
Razorwing Jet; 2x Dark Lance, Splinter Cannon, Night Shields - 165
Razorwing Jet; 2x Dark Lance, Splinter Cannon, Night Shields - 165
5x Scourges; 4x Blaster - 140

>Heavy Support
2x Ravager - 220

>Dedicated Transports
Raider; Dark Lance, Night Shields, Splinter Rack - 90
Raider; Dark Lance, Night Shields, Splinter Rack - 90
Venom; Splinter Cannon - 65

>Formations
Corpsethief Claw - 5x Haywire, 5x Chainflails 675
--2000/2000pts

But if you wanna go heavy skimmer
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Dark_Eldar%287E%29#Venoms:_Fuck_The_Win
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>>336329284
Hopefully. Something tells me that if a Horus Heresy vidya game was made then my favourite of the legions Night Lords won't be high on the list.
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>>336329284
No idea, it would be cool to be able to play as chaos, be horus, and slowly betray the emperor
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>>336308121
>Also its 40K, the tabletop -never- had base building.
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>>336308512
>alfabusa gif
>waaaah stop liking what I don't like
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>>336318358
>Astra Militarum
I will never stop being mad.
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How many hours to go?
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>>336319587
>AdMech
>human
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>>336330090
Id like to know this too
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In the grim darkness of the current vidya industry there is only war. And no base building.

I pity the fools who didn't enjoy all the games to the max.
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So how bad will you guys take it when Dawn of War 3 turns out to be a MOBA?
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>>336323557
The Necron did not have that much hype build-up.
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>>336329284
What would be the point? The Horus Heresy is a clusterfuck and not a complete story yet.

On top of that, it would be a nightmare to balance in multiplayer, and would make the single player experience terrible since gameplay would change every time you get a new legion.
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I like all the games for different reasons. I felt DoWII was a lot tighter and more tactical rather than just blob favourite units. DoW I was great for massive clusterfucks that just felt great to throw tons of units at each other.
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>>336324061
Wise counsel.
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>>336324809
>up and down
There's only one direction, towards the enemy, and there's only one speed, ramming speed, in the Emprah's Most Glorious Holy Navy!
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>>336330462
BELIES YOUR YEARS
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Who is the one making it? Sega? Who got the IP for dawn of war?
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>>336330606
How about you google it you fucking idiot
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>all those Wargame dicksuckers
>not one mention of RUSE
>not one mention of SupCom
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>>336330551
>>336330462
I hope they aren't skimping on the VA budget. How was BFG in that respect?
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>>336330090
>>336330210
About 6 bongs and 30 bings.

>>336330830
Notoriously meh.
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>>336330270
>controller
cut that shit out
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>>336330703
Where will I be able to see their announcement? In their twitter?
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I don't want to ride the hype warpstorm, but its pulling me in.
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>>336324061
Cheeky fuckers
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>>336312373
how did yall make dow 1 look that pretty? gib mod plz
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>>336318692
>Micromanagement and individual unit play in a game about large scale conflicts.

JUST
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>>336309156
You really are proving his "autistically retarded" point by dodging the main argument that hard.
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>>336300561
the thing is, you don't really want the kind of love nurgle gives
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>>336293590
This is an ad. This is an advertisement posted to 4chan.

Thats as many as four channels. And that's terrible.
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>>336331736
shitposting in a thread that's actually about video games, good job. you must be proud of yourself.
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What's the best marine chapter and why is it the ultramarines
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>>336329284
Like anyone would play Iron Hands.
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>dont want to get hyped
>read this thread
>get hyped
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>>336332390
My computer probably couldn't run a new Dawn of War, the hype hurts so much.
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>>336332143
The Night Lords, you loyalist.
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>>336332352
Fuck you
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>>336332352
I would.

>>336332496
We're on the same boat, dude. I could run DoW2 with everything at very high but I couldn't force it to give me the eye-killing glossy metal textures.
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>>336329182
I thought that was a giant armored squig at first.
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>>336297169
Fuck them, Malal's the best
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>>336332541

>The Darkhold Ambush (921.M41) - Marneus Calgar is ambushed by the Night Lords whilst en route to the Darkhold battle zone. The Chapter Master's crippled vessel makes planetfall on the sparsely settled Imperial Feudal World of Barathred. Several hundred Night Lords Chaos Space Marines make landing shortly thereafter, but Calgar rallies the planet's feudal population to defeat them.
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>>336295508
I'm inclined to agree. Conceptually, getting rid of base building would be fine. Like I guess I don't specifically find building power/barracks before playing a game fun, but no RTS that has dropped base building has ever been fun. Just did not enjoy DoW2 at all.
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>>336332718
>Malal, your fly's open
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>>336332718
Hes not real
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>downloading Battlefleet Gothic
AM I IN FOR FUN
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>>336332749
>red on blue
Stop it.
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>>336293590

>chaos will be dlc

>orks will be dlc

>necrons will be dlc

everything that isn't Space Marines will be dlc

there will be dlc blood ala TW 2

this is NOT the time I want a new Dawn of War

cannot get hype, getting hype for any game in 2016 is suicidal
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>>336332867
>getting hype for any game in 2016 is suicidal
Worked for XCOM 2 and DaS3 desu.
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>>336332867
>cannot get hype, getting hype for any game in 2016 is suicidal
Fug you im on the total war warhammer hype train and you cant stop me

Choo choo
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>>336333076

good for you and the 3 other people on board

ch-choo-choo...
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>>336332867
I want a glorious Ork campaign.
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already past 3 pm
still no announcement
lol you got trolled xD
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>>336332978

>XCOM 2

game died shortly after release

>DaS3

cool, the game with the meme t-shirts and snapbacks right?


wew lad so much hype
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>>336333271
>the game with the meme t-shirts and snapbacks
What does that have to do with the game itself?
>>
>it's revealed
>battleship gothic DLC
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>>336333271
>XCOM 2 died shortly after release

nigga what
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>>336333219
Relic lives in canada you fucking idiot
>>
all I fucking care about is last stand
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I wonder what sort of game GW will let this be.
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>>336333587
???
Fuck off, furry.
>>
Praise the Emp, and pass the ammunition
Praise the Emp, and pass the ammunition
Praise the Emp, and pass the ammunition
And we'll all stay free

Praise the Emp, and swing into position
Can't be seen by the Inquisition
Praise the Emp, we're all between perdition
And the Com-i-ssar
Yes, the warp beacon said it, you gotta give him credit
For a son of a gun of a gunner was he
Shouting, 'Praise the Emp, we're on a mighty mission
All aboard, we ain't a-goin' fishin'
Praise the Emp and pass the ammunition
And we'll all stay free'
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>>336306274
JESUS CHRIST MY EYES
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ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS!
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>>336335225
>uses "s" instead of "Z"
wew senpai
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>>336335402
Nawh youz lissen ta' me here ya grot, I'z nevvuh sez grahmma wuz mah speshutlee.
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>It's a MOBA
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SHOW ME WHAT PASSES FOR HYPE AMONGST YOUR MISBEGOTTEN KIND
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>>336335918
admech hype
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>>336335918
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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>>336335918
Can't wait to stomp shitters desu
>>
Anyone else liked both DoWs equally and would be happy for DoW3 to go either way?
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>>336335992
>shoving flesh fetishes into a machine cult
That pic makes no sense
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>>336336301
your mom doesn't make sense
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>>336336301
Not all Techpriests are so quick to abandon the flesh and its related pleasures. Those become Hereteks.
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>>336335798
s-s-s-sorry bosss
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fuck everyone, dow3 needs to be dow1 on coh's engine. anything else is bust.
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>we will never get rogue trader era model designs in a DoW game.
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How long until the drop?
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>>336336989
A bit less than 5 hours, m8.
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>>336336989
9AM CST
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>>336336962
Goddamn those are actually really cool
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So long as they include Tau
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>>336315094
Not that anon, but I could see them build just turrets, beacons, listening posts and a planetary fortress/fleet beacon.

All units deep strike into the battlefield...including their heaviest vehicles.

>>336332718
He's in retconnia.
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>>336337343
>Durrr muh weebshit
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>>336297794
Why not both?

DoW III and a new DLC for DoW II so that we can wait for DoW III?
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>>336309173
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>>336337412
That's a strong argument and a good way to communicate your opinion.
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>>336337509
Your shitty race is always on the bottom of the totem pole, cuck.
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>>336337439
Doubtful. If they're in production for DoW3, all the artists will be cranking on assets there.

Only cross-game event I could see would be a DoW2 tournament (lol) during which DoW3 information would be released, plus a sale on DoW2 during the event.
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>>336337613
I think I triggered the weebshitter
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It will be another game starring muh Spehs Mereens
It wont have any Space Nuns in it
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>>336337613

Get lost you hipster. No one wants to play with your shitty race
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Oh shit, that's today.
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>>336293590
I bet it's going to be shit like DOW2.
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>>336337539
>I need my race to be the very best in the entire setting, in every field and every way
So, how is it playing Ultramarines?
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>>336337698
putting out a 40k game without marines in it would be stupid. It would entirely alienate any newcomers.

The faction lineup for DoW3 will probably be like DoW1. SM, Chaos, Orks, Eldar.
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>>336297737
>Thousand Sons a best
>thousand sons
>not FUCKING FURRIES
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>>336336235
i'd rather have a fantastic Deathwing than a fantastic DoW3
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>>336337771
Damn straight.

In about 4 hours or so if my admittedly shitty timezone knowledge is correct.
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>>336295965
I liked the race selection in the first one much better and the unit variety. DoW 2 wanted to focus on the squad battles and pay attention but there's only so much you can do with the limited amount of units you can have.
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>>336337881
>tfw work until 8 tonight
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>>336337831
>thousand sons not best
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>>336337735
I do, they're the best playable group outside the astra militarum :^)
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>>336337698
AdSor are AdArb with AdAst look and a sliver of =][= power. Better to add a non-human faction.
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>>336337942
thousands sons a shit!
SHIT!
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>>336309636
TETSUWAAAAAAAGH
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>>336337831
What are you trying to say with this post? Do you know anything about the Thousand Sons?
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>>336337797
>Implying I play chinkmarines
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Relic insider here
It's an Overlord style game featuring a Warboss where you pillage bases and gathe Boyz for the WAGGGHHH
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>>336338068
You mean Red Skull's spooky armour bonded warriors?
Not at all friendo.
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>>336337907
That's kind of the theme of the tabletop.

Blob and you'll get kills but lose points; spread and you'll get points but lose models/squads. A successful commander tars points while using a mobile strike force to force retreats and counter blobs.

If you an do anything you want, you've already won.
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>>336338075
GREEN IZ BEST.
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>>336338161
Indeed.
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>>336337942
>dust
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>>336293590

WE DID IT BOYS!

ALSO have you heard about the GREATER GOOD?
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>>336338190
>not ' make america green again'
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>>336337698

just fuck off with your shitty meme faction
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Dawn of War
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>>336338224
>can't even fight against Ork Waaghs
>loses 4 worlds in a row
>Farsight rage quits and loses some more on his own

10/10 greater good.
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>>336338289
But anon your faction is the meme faction
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Game will feature the 5th chaos god
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>>336338104

I fucking LOVE Overlord.
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>>336338336

I'm trans-fluid-other-faction. Stop trying to categorize me.
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>>336338049
Check yourself for fleas, furball
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>>336293590
>inb4 CG
>inb4 no gameplay
if there won't be any gameplay i wont get hyped
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>>336294881
>>336320892
>>336303868
the nids were shopped in. Here is the image taken directly from the dow site
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Giff necrons and tau pls
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guard, orkz an bolter bitches plox
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>>336338551
Looks like an arena with tyranid aesthetics
Moba confirmed

Screencap this
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>>336338551
It's a new arena for The Last Stand
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>>336338624
Da ork life is the only life i know
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>>336316197
Reminder that people who put orks and ig as their two favourite races are dow only bandwagoners that don't understand that's its old school grognard bait to lampoon people who pretend to only like them ironically.


On an unrelated not DoW2 got fucked up by THQ forcing GFWL on relic because they needed the money, then continuous waves of layoffs as it went down so we will never really know what DoW2 could have been.
Assuming Sega just forces race pack dlc on relis I don't see why this game can't be great.
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>>336338737
>>336338748
If either of you guys are right I'm going to renounce the Emperor and go worship Chaos for the rest of my life.
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>>336338748
>>336338737
fuck the both of you. Don't say that. you might actually be right...
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>Dawn of War Online
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Why wh40k shitters are so fucking edgy?
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>>336338892
I pity the fool whom has not played in ye olde days of GorkaMorka
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>>336338892
>not liking guard and orkz unironically
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>>336338892
DoW2 got fucked over because of that cuntstain Lead Designer Jonny Ebbert and his awful ideas about "fixing" RTS.

He went to blizzard and worked on diablo 3. SO that's that.
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>>336338996
It's your fault. Had you sucked one less dick everything would've been different.
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>>336339050
>He went to blizzard and worked on diablo 3

Well, this explains a few things.

I don't really mind how DoW2 tried to play around with the RTS formula. But the key word here is "tried", because the skirmish gameplay was awful.

I loved the campaign, though. Felt like the proper space marine experience.
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>>336338453
Go back to your sorceries, nerd
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>>336294062
holy shit
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JUST CAME BACK FROM WORK STILL NO ANNOUNCEMENT
WHEN
WHERE
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>>336339418
Took yourself long enough to come up with this pathetic retort, were too busy licking your own asshole?
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>>336339409
Don't listen to that contrarian shit poster he was lead on Dark Crusade as well and we all know how /v/ likes to line up to blow relic's dick over that.
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>>336294062
when did Relic let go of the IP
was also surprised there are tons of W40k games that arent RTS lately
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Just 4 more hours until the cleansing begins.
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>>336339498
Fuck off bookworm, you probably don't even HAVE an asshole to lick
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>>336339452
>>336339585
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>>336339585
>Avitus was the canon traitor not this Codex shirking tacticool edgelord.

Devastators don't deserve this.
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>>336339515
I am that poster, DC was also problematic. The changed infiltration method was shit and reduced control. It introduced the new system for capping vehicles, which again reduced player choice. Necrons were super OP for a long time, and it introduced the Risk style campaign map which while it can be fun, is pathetic for telling stories.

Not to mention all the technical things that got broken moving over to DC (I was modding the game at the time).

DOW1 was established, and Ebbert didn't have a "clean slate". DOW2 was his clean slate.
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If they wanted to go all tactical for DoW II why didn't they just make a more complicated combat system with more control over what your units do and just remove cap points and HQ, have every player start with their army?
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>>336340320
>It introduced the new system for capping vehicles
This was the absolute worst. My fondest memories of DoW are playing Night Monastery in WA and spamming fire prisms or terminators over the monastery in the middle into the enemy base.
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How long until they announce what it is then?
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>>336340457
In 3.5 hours
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>>336339896
The game fucking beat you over the head that Avitus was the traitor in Chaos Rising.

He openingly says he enjoys murdering loyal Imperial citizens and on multiple occasions recommends destroying Imperial strategic assests that would result in helping the enemies of the Imperium in the long run.
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>>336340701
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>>336340582
thanks!
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>>336340428
There was actually an interview from a year ago (maybe more or less) where a guy at relic was talking about a points system maybe (I guess we'll see).

Legit question though how could they make DoW2 more tactical? A lot of units had at least two abilities with commanders and sub commanders having between 3 and 4 at a time depending on build.
How do you get more complicated then that per unit in an rts?
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I CAN'T WAIT!
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>>336313623
Why the fuck do you even bother coming on this board if your just going to pass of stuff that hasn't even been released yet as shit?
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>>336340790
For some dicking?
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