Nioh Alpha Demo
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Gomenasai, my name is William-Sama.
Spearbros where we at?
So bros, what weapon you using? Sword here, feels like it's not that great most of the time. It shines in 1v1's but in group combat I get my shit pushed in. I'm almost always in mid stance so I block a lot and combat goes slower than I feel the developers intended it to be. With all the movement and cuhrazy moves I feel like I should be going fast all the time but if I try that I pretty much just get my shit pushed in.
>>336091864
I tried out every weapon type and I thing the sword is best. I mained mid stance and subbed high stance.I never had any issues with it.
>>336091691
Spearbro in high stance reporting in
![fbe55e4f605e835f754fadf558c6a57b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/L7sBAmr.jpg "fbe55e4f605e835f754fadf558c6a57b[1]")
will we get a full ninja weapon? daggers, flips and shit, and izuna drops
>>336092249
Shinobi '02 was great, it really did deserve more sales than it got.I'm sure I'll get murdered for saying this, but I absolutely loved Inafune's Yaiba designs. It's all the more annoying too, since that and Soul Sacrifice prove that he has still has some great ideas in the bank, at least visually, but he chooses to go for all thart sleazy Kickstarter nonsense.
The game isn't very good. It's loaded with useless mechanics that shouldn't be there and has problems on it's own. Maybe on sale but it's definetly not a $60 game.
Reminder: Wind spirit is a hawk.
No matter what it turns out to be, The Mark of the Conqueror is significant.
Before I say why I need to divide the Souls community into two general groups - Conquerors and Conquered - and quickly define both.
Both have basically been around since Demon's Souls, but the very nature of the Conquered demands that the Conquerors come first. Why? Because Conquers beat the path and light the way. Afterward, like mold or a rot, the Conquered seep into the community, ever at the heels of the Conquerors.
How is that? Either by a lack of information upon release or due to a self-imposed restriction, the Conqueror goes in blind. Conquerors embrace the challenge From Software has extended with each release in their Souls/Bloodborne Series while the Conquered abhor it. While Conquerors scratched and clawed their way through levels and boss fights, the Conquered poured over FAQs, Strategy Guides, Wiki Articles, Google Search Results, Let's Plays and How to Videos.
Therefore the Conquered subsist by virtue of the illumination spread over From's games by the Conquerors, entirely dependent on it. Overtime they've let themselves forget this, fancying themselves old hands as they bring their borrowed knowledge and tactics to bear on each successive release.
And then here comes fucking Nioh, reminding the Conquered who they really are. And with little to no documentation in sight they hide behind shitposts so they can cling to that "gud" status they worked so hard to attain. Eventually they'll be back. Once the Conquerors have shown the way, that is.
And that's why The Mark of the Conqueror is significant. No matter how superficial, uselessly cosmetic or quickly outclassed it is, it stills says I'm not this nigga >>336092639
No, I'm a Conqueror.
>>336092639
Try actually explaining things instead of using vague buzzwords.
>>336092712
this 2bh
>>336091691
Its shit.
>>336093168
You're shit.
>>336092737
The whole loot system is garbage and unnecessary micro management that slows down the game. I don't want to compare 2 fucking swords with each other to see if one might have better passive stats like itemfind or damage against certain types of enemies. It also is a fucking mess once you finally get around to vendor all that garbage you don't need. They should at least seperate different weapon types. Also having armor / weapons with double the def / attack modifier dropping right in the next level makes it so you don't actually want to rerun the levels because you gain almost nothing from it.
Then there's the fucking enemy placement. It's just cheap. And I don't mean in a way where you just have to be careful, it just has enemies around every single fucking corner. It gets especially bad in the second level where the enemies are fucking placed inside of bushes and almost completely invisible. If you want to avoid being gangraped you have to literally spam the lock on button to find them.
The bosses also feel incredibly weak, the whole summoning shit needs to be balanced. There's nothing stopping you to almost kill the second boss by activating your summon and bashing his fucking head in because he gets staggered after like 5 hits and never breaks out of it until he's dead.
>>336093331
>Being THIS conquered
>>336093449
What the fuck are you even talking about?
>>336093449
I like this maymay.
Is this game like bloodborne where the first area is the hardest because you don't really know what you're doing? I hope so, because I've been playing the demo and that first area is beating the crap out of me. I haven't gotten to first the boss yet
Everybody else feel they need to add another shortcut for items?
>>336092712
>No, I'm a Conqueror
ur a faget
>>336093747
lol no
2nd area is ridiculous
>>336093794
It's just shitty copy pasta.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/No%20matter%20what%20it%20turns%20out%20to%20be%2C%20The%20Mark%20of%20the%20Conqueror%20is%20significant./
Pc when
I was having some fun playing it, but it made me wish I was playing either Onimusha or Bloodborne instead.
>>336093918
Fug
>>336093543
>git gud
That's what he's saying
Is there any way to break out of being stunlocked? I feel like every single mistake I make leads to me getting killed in one combo.
>>336094117
Okay, so complaining about a lack in difficulty means I'm not good enough at the game? Is that some sort of abstract shitposting?
>>336093747
Honestly, I thought so. The second level throws quite a few powerful enemies at you, but it's nothing too difficult, assuming you're comfortable with the combat system by then.
>aggro range: the game.
Get more then one? Just commit sudoku.
The demo is pretty fun though. Prefer sword now that I have the parry, but spear seems to be the only answer to groups.
>>336094153
Learn to Ki pulse and never dodge when you're blinking red.
>>336093331
>Then there's the fucking enemy placement. It's just cheap. And I don't mean in a way where you just have to be careful, it just has enemies around every single fucking corner.
How is that a bad thing at all? It's an action game, long stretches with nothing going on are boring. It also fits the setting well, which is obviously during a time of war.
>If you want to avoid being gangraped you have to literally spam the lock on button to find them.
Gangs are fun to fight if you aren't shit at the game.
>>336094153
Don't fight three enemies at once.
Addendum: Don't run out of stamina, and never ever turn your back on a fight because flanking damage is nuts.
>>336094238
>Get more then one? Equip a spear.
ftfy
How do you get back to the level select once you select a level?
Nioh has fantastic mechanics and level design.
I pray that the final release maintains this level of quality.
This may be the best demo since BF1942.
>>336094372
beat the boss again.
>>336094372
Use a branch or complete the level.
>>336094372
Beat it
>>336094267
I'm not talking about running out of stamina, I mean I take one random hit and I'm staggered repeatedly, can't dodge/move until I'm dead.
I was suspecting I might be able to do some street fighter bullshit, by trying to block right as one of the followup attacks is about to hit me, but I've had no success.
>>336094295
>How is that a bad thing at all?
Because it's done badly. You know what would've been a good way? Put enemies in places where you can hardly see them. Not places where they're impossible to see and you have to press the fucking lock on button so your character activates his fucking ESP and auto targets them for you. And that every 5 fucking steps.
>>336094424
Ah, THATs what the branches do.
By the description it sounded like they work the same as travel amulets.
>>336094546
Yeah, I was wondering what the deal was with that as well until I just sucked it up and used one.
>>336094547
What does anything of what I said have to do with dark souls or bloodborne?
>>336093331
>The whole loot system is garbage and unnecessary micro management that slows down the game.
This is fair.
>Then there's the fucking enemy placement. It's just cheap.
No, it's not. You just need to be more aware of shit and stop trying to YOLO rush shit.
>>336094238
It's easy to fight a few enemies at once, as you don't do something stupid like aggroing a ninja demon in addition to other enemies.
>>336093331
>summoning
You're literally a fucking pleb
Git gud
The inventory system in this alpha is awful, I really hope they refine it in the beta/full game
>>336094153
like a fightan gamestop pressing buttons and fucking block
>>336094716
Did you not read my shit faggot. I said there should be a second set of shortcut for Items or ninja skills.
>>336094710
I hope you know that I mean your fucking guardian animal and not other players. You know what, fuck it. Go try it out right now. Pick the fucking shark, get to the level 2 boss and tell me you don't take at least 70% off his HP by standing right infront of him and spaming square.
Did the real William had a Japanese mistress?
>>336093331
drops so shitters can actually proceed eventually
>>336094718
I'm blocking pretty liberally. I feel like I'm getting the mechanics figured out reasonably well, I'm just perplexed that any time I fail a parry or a dodge that it seems to be a dearth sentence.
I'll continue experimenting. I'm certain there's something I'm missing.
>>336094910
He wasn't allowed to return home and see his wife and son by order of the shogun he was under, but he kept in active correspondence with them via mail (And he more or less sent her child support) and she gave him her blessing to move on and remarry. He eventually married a Japanese woman and had several kids with her.
>>336094952
ki impulse: r1gears quick reload
>>336094452
But in a game where you can easily dash, dodge, and block, it doesn't matter if it's impossible to see everything. There's nothing you can't react to in time, at least from what I've found so far.
>>336095029
'yea uh sorry honey, they said i couldn't leave and sent me all these bitches'
>>336094153
Block, I think the dodge doesn't have invincibility at the start so you can't dodge out of hitstun like dark souls but you can block
I like the ideas in Nioh but I don't know if I actually like it in practice.
It feels even slower than Souls and I don't know if I like that. I would've preferred some Ninja Gaiden levels of speed an action, I guess it was just not what I expected.
>>336095339
It's a actually a lot faster than Souls once you get use to it.
>>336095173
Ah, shit, okay. I get it. I've been trying to pull off street fighter parries and getting nowhere, so this makes sense. I'll have to give that a shot. Thanks.
SHARKBRO'S
WHERE
WE
AT
How exactly does Ki Pulse work?
>>336095651
Now that my spirit is high enough, that 5% heal is pretty damn nice, hopefully in the full game when it can get upgraded it will get even better.
>>336095768
tap R1 when the stam bar goes up
>>336095029
Why didn't she just come to Japan instead?
>>336095829
When it goes up? Also, what EXACTLY does it do?
>>336095768
when you attack part of your ki turns red. Then a white bare starts to fill over that. Tap R1 when it gets ear to the top. You instantly regain that stamina, and it can dispell underworlds in you are standing in one when you do it.
>>336091864
Did an axe str build on my first run, could have just been the learning curve but i struggled hard with axe. Did a 2nd playthrough with heart spec katana and destroyed Nue first try. Haven't tried spear yet but it seems good.
>>336095918
You get stamina back. If you don't use it, you'll lose alot of stamina. Its a required skill to use or you'll get rekted.
>>336095918
There's a white bar fill up faster than normal regen after you end your move Google Ki Pulse
>>336093331
Dude, just push L3 to sort items and if there aren't any at the top of the list with high def/dmg then push the touchpad, select all and sell. It literally takes a few seconds.
I agree with your point about bosses being stunlocked though.
>>336095997
Is there anywhere to get an axe guaranteed? I know it can probably drop but you start with a katana and there's a spear not far from the beginning, but I don't think I've gotten an axe outside of random drops and generally after I started speccing other weapon skill points.
>>336096219
>push L3 to sort items
R3 i mean.
>folded 1000 times tier
high stance spear
>gomenasai tier
everything else
>no fun allowed tier
low stance sword
high stance axe
is High Stance easy mode ?
>>336096342
>low stance sword
real ninja samurai tier
>>336096376
Nah low stance is
>>336091864
Sword because it reminds me of Onimusha and occasionally Ninja Gaiden.
I fucking love this demo. I just hope they can get the performance issues ironed out and that the game isn't short. If it has a good amount of content it could be a contender for GOTY for me.
>>336096376
I'd say it's like 2 handing in Dark Souls.
>>336096376
high stance axe is easy mode. every enemy dies in two hits. high stance sword I haven't really tried too much. high stance spear is as stylish you can get. Game turns into a platinum game if you go high stance spear due to all the combo finishers and shit you get. high stance spear also has the windmill and I think the multi jab attack as well.
>>336096503
Well it's still in alpha, so I don't expect it to release until later this year, but I can easily see it having a lot of content considering the Demo, depending on how fast you got through it, still had about 4-6 hours of content.
>>336096376
pretty much other stances have to to attack much more that it doesn't balance out the damage/stun and leaves yourself wide open against high poise
>have ninja skill tree
>ninja enemies
>no dual knives
>ninja tree doesn't have any cool sword tech or cool ninja shit, only fucking use items
Your character doesn't go to the second level right? You start with a premade character during the second level?
I've made two characters so far. A stamina/strength axe build and a heart/dexterity spear build. Both from the first level. Would really like to use these characters again or in PvP. Which btw, is pvp even in the demo?
>>336096376
I would probably say no, it doesn't seem like any stance is really "easy mode". High stancing my Katana felt like it was leaving me way too open for not really a whole lot more damage.
>>336096920
Nope, you have your character in the second level as well. I don't think there's really any PVP so to say outside of the revenants.
>>336093331
Your assuming the first area and second area will come one right after the other in the final game. There could be a few areas in between. Or maybe they just tweaked it to drop higher end gear so demo players can get a taste of them. I mean in every loot-heavy game ever you find better gear in the later stages than you do in the early ones. I just hope the game let's you take on hard mode versions of each area after completing the game, similar to how PSO did it. I'd greatly prefer that over the barely noticeable increases in difficulty that the Souls games do for new game plus.
>go to the second mission
>dat rainy atmosphere
>dat music
Seriously, though. The music in this game is pretty fucking stellar. If the entire game is gonna be seeping with this much class, it's gonna be GOTY.
so how many hours do you have in the demo. I feel like I'm bordering on 20 or so.
>>336097070
How do you check?
>>336096631
Yeah, odds are it will be fine in that area. I'm just wary because I've played awesome demos that ended up being better than the full games before, like Halo 1 and Stranglehold. It's always something I worry about when a demo really impresses me.
>>336097127
Well, I'm just assuming, but I think the PS4 probably has that data somewhere? Like in profile? And if it doesn't, I'd really like it if the PS4 added something like that, nintendo platforms have had track records since the ds and I like knowing how much time I've put into a game.
Kusarigama when?
>>336097070
I'm at level 48 now so probably a fucktonne.
>tfw no greatsword
>tfw No onimusha weapons
I miss onimusha
Real talk, huge props for Koei Tecmo for releasing a demo with so much fucking content.
>>336091864
Hammer and Katana
List some things most people who played the demo missed:
>the first oni you encounter breaks down the wall of the house if you leave it
>if you knock an enemy off a ledge, they do a funny animation and scream as they fall
>you can take more damage based on how you fall. If you jump off a ledge and land on your feet, you may not take any damage at all, but if you are knocked off a ledge, such as getting shot by an arrow as you climb a ladder, you will take a lot of damage when you land
>in the pause menu, you can set what combos and combo finishers you want to execute. I missed this on my first playthrough. I forgot if this is true exactly, but I think there's stuff for combos like if you press square square triangle, you can choose to execute some attack like whirlwind for the spear, which usually triggers when you do a half circle triangle. Someone should go to the menu to see if this is true.
>>336091691
Spear/Sword best combo. Range, damage, and speed when you need them. That spear mid heavy attack is fantastic for range + ki damage, but the katana really shines against human enemies in every stance.
Honestly though, any combo is fine as long as you aren't a 2Kat loser
>>336097969
>any combo is fine as long as you aren't a 2Kat loser
whats the point of two katanas? can you dual wield?
>>336097926
Might have to check that last one simply because I hated having to try and mash out half circle triangle, if you could incorporate it into a combo like God Hand that'd be great.
Speaking of which, that menu really kind of interests me, because it really does give off a God Hand feel to it, imagine being able to select the way you attack with certain stances.
>>336097969
Spear sucks. Rather have axe
>>336097926
>if you knock an enemy off a ledge, they do a funny animation and scream as they fall
you can air juggle/get juggled before falling to death
>>336091586
What does calling back your spirit do? Do you lose out on your souls?
>>336098150
Yes, and also it seems like there will be an item loss mechanic as well or something related to it.
>>336095768
Its Gears of War active reload for your stamina after any attack you do
Hit it too early and you recover less or no stamina
Hit it too late and you get nothing
Hit it at the right time and you get back like %80 of the stamina you used + you clear any demon fog you're standing in
>>336097926
Another thing that most people have probably seen unless they chose to cheese the oni. The oni can cause a puddle of that yokai fog. If you stand in the fog, your stamina can't regenerate. I feel like people will miss this because if they did beat the oni they probably killed it too quickly to have seen this attack.
>>336098150
Yes. You lose your souls and I think you lose all the power you saved up to unleash your spirit's living weapon attack.
>>336098320
I actually tested this and there is a major grace period if you wait for it to fill up.
>>336091864
Spear with katana as my sidearm like a true samurai.
What's even the point of barehanded revenants when revenants don't dodge or parry?
>>336098050
I saw people in other threads who only wanted to use the katana and had two equipped for when one ran out of durability
>>336098079
The axe is good, but spear is great too. Seriously though, try abusing mid heavy attack, it's really great
Whats the best build and why is it heart/magic spear?
Spear feels cheap as fuck.
>>336098603
That's like three builds at once.
>Magic gives you the fucking ability to slow down all enemies
>Ninjitsu gives you a fucking worthless paralysis bomb that only works on humans and they have to be inside the range
Well I'm fucking ignoring ninjisu in the final game
>>336098649
It's just a katana with more range, damage, parries if you need them, and an automated plunging attack while being able to dodge-cancel out of any attack - actually yeah maybe it is a bit OP.
>>336098735
>Ninjitsu
Sorry I can't hear you over these 12 exploding shurikens.
>>336098079
Ace is too slow. Spear does crowd control just as well and isn't slow as shit. I do spear for crowd control, sword for everything else
>>336098603
spear is gay as fuck
spear is without a doubt the best weapon
>you can sweep people's legs, knocking them down instantly
>multi jab attack does a shit ton of damage to onis
>has a *teleports behind you* move
>has an attack that actually regenerates stamina
>the best weapon for crowd control, especially the windmill attack
>and obviously the most range
>>336098871
sword does fine with crowd control. You can also use the bombs.
>>336098871
Problem with Axe - the REAL problem - is not being able to dodge-cancel mid or high recovery frames.
And low stance is nodamage norange
>>336097606
This. It is fucking awesome of them desu. I don't usually praise modern video game companies but its nice to actually have a demo that shows what the game really is.
So is anyone else helping their fellow Williams and running newbies through the first level? I have gotten about 10 new players through the oni boss and about 30 to the short cut for him.
>>336099173
I gave up on Coop after every single person seemingly just non stop spawned revenants.
Sword for real honabru gaijin, everything else is baka.
>>336098967
I have never had a problem overcommitting with axe attacks honestly since everyone is pretty much insta staggered by axes. I just make sure not to commit more than two attacks at a time to onis and bosses and it works out pretty well. I really don't see the reason for the shit people give axes and hammers
>>336099264
If they do that I just let them die or kill myself
Can you summon the animals in the demo?
>>336099505
yes triangle and circle when your meter is full.
You can switch out which ones at the not bonfire.
>>336099393
>everyone is pretty much insta staggered by axes.
No they aren't, and especially when combating groups with enemies that have hyper-armour the axe simultaneously requires hit and run tactics and committal to every action.
Using the spear I feel like Cassius-fucking-Bright.
This shit is great.
>>336099460
how do you kill yourself? I tried to quit but didn't know how.besides getting killed
>>336099683
Key Items > Harakiri Sword
>>336099834
ty cutie
>>336099950
is that pandalee
>>336100212
yes
SOMEBODY HELP ME KILL THE FUCKING FIRST BOSS.
GOD FUCKING DAMN.
>>336100486
Hes easy like the second boss
>>336100513
NO HE FUCKING IS NOT
>>336099668
>no they aren't
They are for me. It takes away human stamina in basically one hit. And you shouldn't be commiting more than 2 mid stance attacks to an oni no matter the weapon.
am I doing something wrong or does the first boss fight take like 100 hits to kill? I have a katana that does like 100 damage and I tried with an axe with 150 damage too, but when you have to dodge 100 attacks to win the fight and one wrong move can instakill you (since it's like 5x damage when you're dodging), I dunno man. I'm like level 10 or so.
>>336091864
I just use sword because it looks cool. I change stances depending on what enemies im fighting because the hitboxes in this game are pretty strict and you'll whiff alot otherwise on certain enemies.
>>336100612
>since it's like 5x damage when you're dodging
You're getting hit in the back more likely, since it does like double damage when you do.
>>336100612
>since it's like 5x damage when you're dodging
No. Its about 2x the damage when your back is turned. Pressing x without touching the left thumbstick allows you to jump back without turning your back so do that from now on.
And as for him he takes a while to kill. Try using your living weapon and some bombs.
So are they keeping the item degradation in the final?
I really don't know how I feel about it, it's kind of a hassle to switch all my gear out every 10 minutes.
>>336100798
Hasn't been an issue for me. I usually find better gear before my old stuff breaks. And when I don't I have plenty of repair items.
>>336100798
I'm assuming it'll stay, but we'll have shops to buy whetstones from rather than having to go by RNG drops.
>>336100798
It hasn't been an issue for me at all and I can appreciate the little bit of micromanagement it adds to the game because I love dumb shit like that. But at the same time I can't really come up with a reason for it to be a necessary mechanic in the final build, it just adds some grind basically. Some people despise it. I dunno it's really been a non issue for me.
>>336100798
Yes, but there'll be a blacksmith in the final version.
>>336101149
If it had a better inventory system, it might be ok. It's basically diablo with extra menus and no mouse.
>>336100798
Honestly, if they just let me use currency to pay for repairs at shrines, I'll be fine
>>336101245
I'd just want them to tone down the dorp frequency a tad. Loot treadmill can be addicting as fuck if they don't go overboard with drops.
>>336101363
It's fine as it is if we have to continue shrine offering as much as we do.
Will there be more weapon types? Three seems low. Four if you count hammer but it shares the same moveset as an axe
>>336103342
How many weapon types do you really think Japan would have in the sengoku period?
>>336103342
I'd rather it stayed low.
having extra fluff like darksouls is kind of boring. I just want all the good weapon abilities on only a few weapons.
I've reached the point where I need 100k amrita to level up. Holy shit.
>>336103435
Nunchucks, scythe with ball and chain, a fan, dual daggers, etc
>>336094449
Have you tried just holding block instead?
>>336103435
Shit load between staffs, staffs with swords, swords, nunchucks, caltrops, throwing stars. Just play ninja Gaiden or tenchu
>>336103697
Oh maybe even a gun
>>336103832
> caltrops
> throwing stars
You mean ninjutsu?
>>336103342
I'm expecting there to be at least two more, a ninja sword/kusarigama type and dual swords. I'd be ok with that many considering it looks like each type will play really differently and get a lot of unique skills.
>>336103605
>not being level 46 and needing 600k
The cost shoots up so damn much but I don't even know what I'd want to level up now,
>>336104530
I need to level stamina and it sucks.
HIGH STANCE SPEAR MASTER RACE REPORTING IN, BITCHES
SQUARE - TRIANGLE ALL DAY, E'ERY DAY
>>336104660
Shit don't remind me. The game's been giving me nothing but really good light armour that outclasses everything else, but the stuff I like the look of most is mid which I never get and even wearing the one part puts me into B agility.
>>336091586
Where the fuck are you you little green fucks? I've been through this level a dozen times and i still dont know where you are damnit
Quick Kick or Sword Ki explosion? For me its the explosion not sure why someone would pick kick
>>336105541
What hats are you missing and in which level?
>>336105584
Kick is good for one on one fights and I feel compliments mid style more than low.
>>336105584
I have Sword Ki on mid for the better actual damage and aoe and Kick on low for the speed, while with high I stick with Morning Moon cause that style/ki pulse/damage. I think both are pretty good and compliment those stances but I just like having all of them to use as well.
>>336105719
>>336105891
oposing opinions but that means it comes down to preference. Though I think you guys are on to something, since we have 3 stances put kick in atleast one (I would feel it to low but needs to test)
>there are people here right now who don't know that William Adams is a real, historical figure
>>336106397
No
There are people on twitch, tumblr, twitter complaining about white washing because apparently it's cool now because of kusonagi. They're also trying to start shit like petitions and have thousands of birds flocking around them agreeing
>>336105719
Red hat first level, haven't done second yet
>>336094359
that's what he just said though, idiot
>>336096342
low stance sword is actually really cool, you can slash up and dodge and GAIN stamina
I just checked out the demo earlier, seems like a ton of fun. I think it's a bit of a shame it's a PS4 exclusive, since I just managed to build my first PC, and have would have liked to not have to choose between framerate or graphics, but whatever, I'll probably still get it, maybe not right away, I'll wait for a bit of a price drop.
I'm going to reroll as soon as I start back up on it, because I got to the first boss, and my stats are fucked, and he's wrecking my as I do almost no real damage to him. I'm going to grind it out, and make a heavy armor tank sword guy.
>Mfw I realize bow headshots seem to instakill regular human enemies
I hope they get some kinda scimitar in, I know it's japanese but gimme a curved sword
>>336106778
>Mfw I realize bow headshots seem to instakill regular human enemies
>the bloodsplatter
I love how visceral this game is. Everyone was full of dust and shit in darksouls and bloodborne was just exploding ketchup. loving this tho.
>>336106540
what the fuck are you talking about?
I've spoken to a few people who really don't know that William Adams was a British guy who went to Japan and became a samurai and the main character, is called William Adams (at least for now)
I hope they keep that because it's really funny
>>336106603
If it's the one I'm thinking of it's near the second shrine closest to the lord's manor where you find the first oni. You follow the path, deal with the axe bandit, and then drop down and deal with the archer. Once they're done, go back under the cliff to find some boxes. Destroy them and you'll find the red hat one.
>>336106878
Yeah, I love some good visceral kills in games.
Can you chop off limbs, or is it just heads? I always see head get lopped off with heavy attacks, but I don't think I saw a single arm go flying.
>>336107126
Limbs fly when you parry I believe.
It might even be context sensitive so where you cut them maybe.
>>336107126
open your eyes, nigger
you can cut off arms and legs
>>336107126
You can chop limbs off. It's fucking great. You can cut the head, arms, and legs off people and yokai. I remember one time I was fighting a ninja oni and I sliced his head off in the middle of him doing a flip.
Zombies seem to be the only things that are hard to dismember.
>>336106397
I could buy that, he's not super well-known outside of Japan and history buff circles. Clavell's Shogun and the spin-off series were pretty popular in their day, but that was in the 70s and 80s. I'd honestly be surprised if everyone in these threads was aware of him pre-TGS last year.
What's silly is people automatically just calling him a Geralt knockoff on the basis they both have pale hair and similar hairstyles.
>>336106927
Some faggot streamer on Twitch was bitching about William for a few minutes the other day, and some Slav watching the stream was so incensed about it that he's been going berserk and bitching on and on about it on /v/ constantly since yesterday morning.
>>336107126
It'd dependant on how many hits you can get in on someone during their death animation. Using the light attacks means you can usually get a few limbs off them, at least.
>>336092712
The anon that wrote this, and the anons using it as pasta are doing God's work. Keep at it brothers.
It is good but fps is shitty, and low res with high fps. Too bad it is ps 4 exclusive.
>>336107209
Maybe I've just gotten really unlucky with it?
>>336107175
Holy shit you can parry? Do you just block right as an enemy hit connects? I didn't try it, but now I want to.
>>336107224
That ninja oni that's down the way and around the corner past the shrine right as you leave the residence area with the first oni fucking spook'd me, since I went through the alleyway first, and triggered him as I killed the zombie guy.
I managed to kill him with my spirit weapon buff thing, though.
>>336107398
> Do you just block right as an enemy hit connects
did you not find the skill tab?
You have to unlock it, but yeah it's block and then press square.
>>336107362
It's kind of strange how easy it is for me to adjust to the FPS difference between it and, say, PC DaS3.
I think it's because I spent such a long time on console, and only recently made the transition to playing almost entirely on PC, with my recently first self-built PC.
The difference between store-bought and self-assembled is pure sex.
>>336107457
Or triangle.
>>336107398
>>336107457
I believe axes are the only weapon that can't parry if you're using them, also there is a perfect block for Katanas that involves blocking just as the enemy hits and it pretty much knocks them back with all, or almost all stamina drained.
>>336107506
Is that even a parry, what does that even do differently?
>>336107526
Do you mean the normal block that has the "explosive" description or something?
>>336107585
Square and triangle both send stumbling in different directions.
>>336107457
>Skill tab
Oh my god. I feel so stupid.
>>336107506
Does that initiate the visceral attack thing? I found that heavy attacking an enemy that is out of breath did a special animation that usually ended up executing normal enemies.
>download demo expecting a good souls clone with a new, fresh environment with the whole japanese mythology thing
>get an extremely shoddy souls clone with incredibly dull environments and enemy design
I was hoping for so much more
>>336107626
If they're out of stamina you can do that by holding down triangle it's called "grapple" and you start out with it. It also works if they're on the ground and you just stab them normally.
>>336107626
>initiate the visceral attack thing?
Yeah it's a grapple, though I'm pretty sure it's only doable on human enemies.
>>336107585
>Is that even a parry, what does that even do differently?
If you do the follow up attack to triangle's parry it knocks them down allowing you to stab them.
nioh is a souls game made competently
This game feels a lot like god hand now that I think about it.
>>336107703
it's bloodborne but made from the ground up, like bloodborne should have been.
>>336107680
Souls players are cancer.
How does he refill it in this webm? I know that killing enemies refills it. Do KI blasts work? Or is it something shark related.
>Souls fans are going to ruin this great game with their bullshit complaints
I should have known we can't have nice things. Half the comments are "White samurai? Dass Racist!" even though he's based on a real white samurai, and the other half are "You mean I can't just leeroy jenkins everything and win? I actually need common sense?! ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY!" The whole point of the demo was so that Tecmo could grind Team NINJA's faces in the feedback and say "See? We told you no one likes NES tier Difficulty anymore. Now make it Souls of Duty and give the game iframes and a six hour tutorial!"
>>336108061
>game is garbage
>blame it on the fanbase of the game it's shamelessly copying
>>336108136
but it's actually really good
Like REALLY good.
>>336108136
(you)
>>336107970
I think it might just be broken. The refill that happens with Nue doesn't happen with the boat oni. Boat oni also doesn't get infinitely stunlocked.
>>336107970
Getting hits while in living weapon refills the meter a bit, he got in on Nue's stunlock opening and just wailed on him.
>>336107970
The spirit meter for the super mode? It's something spirit related. It most likely has to do with Isonade's living weapon stats in comparison to the others.
>>336107526
Yeah axe can't parry but instead they get a charging move that lets you block while moving, you can use it as a ghetto parry
>>336107585
To cover all the other "parries" in the game:
Sword square parry and it's followup does big damage and leaves them standing letting you continue pressuring and attacking
Sword triangle parry is the fastest animation and the followup stabs then quickly making them slowly fall to the ground. You can stab them when they're on the ground but I think this is best for putting an enemy out of commission in crowds.
The perfect block is just blocking right before the enemy hits you, if done right they fall over and lose almost all their Ki. Probably the safest option since no whiff animation.
Spear's parry takes longer to start up so it can be harder to time but when it works it floors them for a free ground stab and you can learn a skill which gives an attack boost on successful parry.
And unarmed sword catch is about the spear's timing or later but fuckin disarms and stabs them with their own weapon for a one hit kill which is cool as hell.
Don't think I forgot anything, there's a ton of stuff in this game that people don't realize but is really cool.
>>336108136
> shamelessly copying
> the only direct "copy" is the way the exp system works and bloodstains
> everything else has been commonplace in Japanese action games forever
> but souls players are too young to know PS2 era action games and too poor to know vita and psp action games
You fags are literally the halo fandom of action games.
>>336091864
High stance axe just feels the most satisfying and efficient to me.
>>336107970
Getting Amrita in whatever manner refills the gauge, and hitting Nue when it's Ki has ran out gives you Amrita so you can just wail on him and keep it going.
>>336108314
>And unarmed sword catch is about the spear's timing or later but fuckin disarms and stabs them with their own weapon for a one hit kill which is cool as hell.
Holy shit
Does it do like a two hand clap thing because this sounds amazing.
>>336091586
>tfw you won't get the dlc level because you are a scrub
Feels pretty bad but I suck at this game compared to souls.
>>336108393That's exactly what it does.
>>336108393Yes.
>>336107970
Blue form has refilling every time you hit an enemy who is out of ki, essentially making it infinite if you keep hitting a stunlocked boss
>>336108435
>>336108456
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuJfNBmF5C0
>>336108393
It even comes with a complimentary background 'YOOOO' when you land the barehanded parry.
>>336091691
Hi.
I've stopped using swords at this point.
>>336108581
STOP
I CAN'T
>>336108427
Don't give up, what are you having trouble on? One thing that's universally important is learning Ki Pulse and using the advantages of different stances where they'll help the most. Also use your items and bow.
>>336108510
Every spirit animal gives you that, shark just has the longest timer and goes down the least when you're hit in exchange for taking the longest to fill up to use.
>>336108651
Hawk fills fast, goes fast.
Dog fills okay, goes okay.
Lightning dog is shit, might as well kill itself.
Shark takes a while, goes literally forever.
Neat secret I found by accident. You can knock rocks into wells for items. There's a few wells in the village. This one gives you sacred water, but there's one near the end that gives out an elixir.
>Play Nioh demo
>Can't get past the first level
People think this is GOOD?.........................
>>336108875
Ah thanks. Though i agree with the doge one. Hawk is much better for grinding and the shark/wolf are much better for fighting.
The higher item drops on Hawk is really noticeable and since it fills so fast you can use its A+ weapon buff really often and kill enemies faster.
>>336109005
Sorry anon, but it's not the game that isn't good.
>>336109005
Conquered
>>336108875
>lightning dog >shit
Did you even use it? Sure it has pretty crappy bonuses but it fills fast and lasts almost as long as shark does. It's the balanced one of them all but is slightly above average with everything, firedog does the most damage but can go out pretty easy too, though not as easy as bird.
>>336109005
It's great isn't it?!
the first encounter was so sudden I almost felt like I was supposed to lose but I barely beat the guy while I was figuring out the controls. Then they start to tease you with two guys that are stupid powerful and it forces you to try to look around so you learn about alternate paths.
And then the next area is nothing but alternate paths. All the while you keep learning new cool abilities that you can try on enemies while you slowly get better and slowly crawl your way up a mountain.
Oh man I love this game I hope it does well.
>>336108928
Yeah, I just hit it on the basis of the well doing a similar thing in DaS 2 and was pleasantly surprised.
>>336109180
Do you ever revert back to souls controls on accident?I've tried dashing with circle way too many times
>>336109252
Initially, absolutely. I'd been playing BB and DaS 3 a bunch up until Tuesday, so I kept dying from stupid shit that was a result of me just hitting the wrong button.
Though I still keep accidentally opening up the gestures menu as opposed to the inventory thanks to it being the opposite of BB and how I have my DS4 configured for DaS 3.
>>336108875
>Dog fills okay, goes okay.
It's a wolf, you twit.
>>336095135
To be fair, he did send money home to support his wife.
>>336095651
Sharkbro for life
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Samurai
>you flash back to a children's novel when you heard the game
What am I doing with my life?
why is no one posting characters?
>tfw mid spear guard poke
loving it
who /ninja/ here?
>tfw you freeze the boss and you bombard him with arrows and fire shurikens
>>336109742
Cos every character looks like a weeaboo roleplayer from Dark souls
gosh i wish 4chan would increase webm size. I want to upload some webms for this game. they're nothing that special but I personally love seeing people tackle scenarios in different ways and I feel like nobody plays the way I play.
>decide to kill the boss of the 2nd stage again
>summon someone for it
>he does something and he has no KI anymore
>just square him to death
What. I didn't even need to do anything but attack him. He couldn't do anything.
>full game will have rifles and sickle & chain
>>336110060
Fire shurikens are OP as shit, it's hilarious. Not the greatest on the two bosses we have but it wrecks normal enemies and yokai.
So we all agree that if you used Isonade you didn't really beat the game, right?
>>336110239
If you hit him in the face during his breath attack, he loses all his Ki and gets stunlocked by hits.
>>336110326
or spear.
>>336110239
You can break Nue's guard through several ways. Booping him on the snoot when he's doing the lazer.
When he does the air tackle/dive and misses he'll expose his tummy and you can tickle it causing his guard to evaporate.
Another way, and possibly harder, is that when he rears up with some Ki, you can tickle his tummy with a vertical strike and he'll freak out via losing his ki shield. Going into super mode might also force him to lose it.
>>336109410
He's talking about Raiken (yellow), not Kao (red).
>>336110341
>stunlocked
I just stood there and hit him until he was death. I literally just hit him. Nothing else. I didn't dodge a single time in this fight. This is fucking stupid.
>>336110326
>MFW I beat that lightning fucker before finding out about that exploit
>Now I use it for every single co-op game I join
I'd be more interested in this game if I could play as a QT girl like in most Japanese games.
>>336110465
you mean when he said lightning dog?
>>336110341
It's actually his belly whenever he does any kind of thunder attack. You can tell when you can hit it because it glows yellow. Then you can stunlock him for as long as you possibly can. If you give him any kind of space he gets his Ki back but you can actually kill him in one combo this way.
So did William come to Japan to kill demons or some shit?
>>336110326
>>336110427
t.Pussies. Try beating the bosses without super mode.
>>336110465
Bruh he called Lightning dog shit, which is Raiken. Kato's a fire dog(wolf)
>>336110551
Yes, and also to find gold for the queen's coffers.
>>336110517
What exploit?
>>336110551
No, to fuck all the semen demons.
>>336110635
Basically, if you knock down the second boss down to having no ki and then use Isonade, you can keep hitting him with infinite stun lock and infinite energy recharge to make it so that beating the boss is just mashing square
>yfw William is the OG weeaboo
Just beat the first boss, any reason to continue since i got the mark of the conquerer?
>>336110551
>>336110634
First level sounds like it's about when he first arrives in Japan to me. Real William originally went there to trade goods or something if I remember right.
>try out multiplayer
>disconnects everywhere
Can I limit it to my region or is the demo server just shit?
Testing out webms. This webm will probably be way too small. But anyway, the PS4's recording app is awesome.
>>336110696
Doesn't even have to be Isonade, Raiken can do it too, and Daiba-Washi can refill itself instantly and reactivate even if you end up running out. I'm pretty sure Kato can do it as well but it's the hardest to keep going, maybe it'd be better when at low health before activating.
>>336110742
Well yeah, you got a whole new level to play through. What more reason do you need?
>>336110885
Jesus that is tiny.
>>336110918
/v/'s file limit is 3 mb. /vg/ has 4 mb I think.
>>336110903
I'd prefer to play as blind as possible when the game is officially out.
>>336111076
Probably won't come out until winter bruh, so you could willfully forget everything about the next level and be safe.
I they won't change the camera system to make it more like Dark Soul because some of you fucks asked for it
The camera is perfect, it's like ninja gaiden and it allows you to fight multiple enemy at once instead of a 1vs1 borefest like Souls
>>336110558
>hatin on spear
>>336111049
has nothing to do with the file size, your encoding settings are wrong in every way to produce a 2.65mb file of that length with that size
>>336091691
High stance onryoki kill reporting in.
As a fellow conquerer the only things I would like changed are:
>SLIGHTLY LARGER TEXT SIZE IN THE GAME
I feel I have to squint a bit at times.
>Better indicator of when you can use your guardian spirit special attack ( [ ] + /_\ )
Trying to see when I could use fox-kun got me killed a lot of times. I also don't know what triggers the possibility of me being able to use the spirit power. Is it the Spirit stat requirement?
>Indicator telling you how many kodama are left to find at a level.
Also maybe some unlockable Team Ninja characters ehehe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCCGEI6Ynq4
>mash r1 to win game
woah
>>336111270
>Indicator telling you how many kodama are left to find at a level.
It tells you on the world map
>>336111196
>perfect
Small ennemies can litteraly hide in front of William because of the angle, good luck parrying them when you can't see their movements
Bonus point when a small ennemy is near a wall
>>336111216
bruh I understand the spear love but it's just too strong and it abuses the fuck out of AI.
>>336111374
Never happened to me
>>336111216
Read who he's calling pussies.
>>336111270
>I also don't know what triggers the possibility of me being able to use the spirit power. Is it the Spirit stat requirement?
Spirit stat req is largely for the passives they give you. To actually know if you can use the super mode, look at the guardian icon next to your health and see if it has a sheen to it. If it does, then you can use super mode. You can see it fill up as you acquire xp throughout the level.
>Indicator telling you how many kodama are left to find at a level.
There kinda is? There's one you can see in the level selection when you select a level, and another is under Kodama blessing, I think. It'll show X/X in the level while the mission select shows which hats they are.
>>336111416
But I can't go back at this point, I forgot how to use sword and axe too slow for me compared to dindu lance.
And I like heavy weapons.
>this is the only game where spear bros get happy about.
>>336111416
Spears are overpowered in real life as well, that's why I chose it. I prefer to kill goons without getting my armor all bloody.
>>336111270
It's pretty obvious to see when the spirit bar is full actually (there's a big glowing light that circles round it), but they could make it a little easier to tell how full it is before it's usable.
The bar itself fills whenever you get Amrita, so by killing enemies, hitting Yokai when they're out of Ki, checking stuff and using Spirit Stones. The Spirit stat makes it fill up easier and makes Living Weapon stronger when you use it. Also it tells you on the world map how many kodama are left in each level.
>>336111453
Thanks. But I do often make the mistake of trying to activate the spirit guardian thinking its ready because its shining, only to have William-sama lunge forward and die. I guess there's "empty", "filling up" "shining but not quite full", and "super shining, ready to use".
I hope there's a clearer indicator in the final game. Like have the icon go on fire if fox is equipped, start a water animation if shark, etc.
>>336111453
>>336111446
>>336111339
I'm hoping that in the final game you start at the map so you can see how many kodama there are.
>>336110239
The first boss was pretty much the same in coop. What the fuck is wrong with this.
Nue is ripped off from Shin Megami Tensei. Along with Onis.
The demo is pretty good. I downloaded DaS III last week but I don't feel like playing it at all, especially since it's the 5th fucking time they're rehashing everyhting. That Nioh demo, though, just beat Nue and I want more. Shit feels more tense, combat is faster and feels more responsive, enemies are reckless and when coming to a new area you actually feel vulnerable. That first Oni took me like 15 tries I missed being shit at video games.
Hopefully the full game will maintain that level of quality. Just add some waifus, slap some AA and stabilize the framerate in Movie mode all while giving more of what we got and it's going to be my goty.
>>336091586
Only thing I really hate about the game right now are skills familia
>>336111665
>I'm hoping that in the final game you start at the map
Very unlikely. There's nothing wrong with replaying a level anon.
>>336111696
>this bait
Can't conquer me bud.
>>336111696
Nice bait.
>>336110458
I wonder if using an arrow again Nue makes it vulnerable or Joke OHKO(look up myths)?
>>336111665
If you look closely it fills up a little brighter but doesn't really glow. Use some spirit stones and look at it and you'll be able to notice. They should make the bar have a stronger colour or something though I agree but once it's actually full it's fine, although more unique stuff is always cool.
>>336111698
this
I havent touched Dark souls since the Demo launched. Will be hard to come back to, because it will take like half a year or even more before release
>>336109775
William... had a hard life.
>>336111696
I laughed.
>>336111698
>didn't find shortcut first time round
>had to go in from front
>feelin triumphant
>Look for key
>Oni kicks my shit in
>>336111696
>Nue is ripped off from Shin Megami Tensei. Along with Onis.
Silly anon, they ripped off Breath of Fire 3.
>every enemy drops three items
>you have to pick them up because they just might be better
>it takes half an hour to sort through all the shit and throw out all the garbage
My only real complaint. Although the game could be less punishing, instead having more complex enemy movesets. I'm not a huge fan of when games make themselves hard just by having the enemies take off half a bar of health with each attack.
Still, fun game. Have yet to start properly on the second level, but the first was fun.
>>336112068
You know that you can sort after strength and shit?
>>336112068
Press R3 and you can cycle between newest, strongest (which also sorts weapons into their types) and rarest. In the Make Offering menu, you can press the touchpad to select everything to offer it all at once. Also enemies only do huge damage when they should and when you have no armour, some enemies have a lot of moves and even different stances like you.
>>336112068
>>336112143
this. Just pick your strongest weapon and triangle mass sell everything else. Same with armor and you can do this in like half a minute
>>336112068
It gives you plenty of defensive and offensive moves to not get hit though. I agree that it's pretty frustrating when the first mob kills you in one hit but once you get a grip on the combat and start getting gud it's incredibly rewarding to go through an area without getting hit once because you made use of all the skills available.
>chest armor
>109 defense
>9,7 weight
Was I just lucky?
How is Nue pronounced?
Hey guys I noticed that there was a "lock" that you can place on items when selecting them in the character menu.
I suppose this prevents you from selling stuff you want to keep by accident.
I accidentally sold William's shirt, pants, and boots. Now I'm wearing random soldiers' smelly gear.
>>336112343
"niew"
>>336110885
I usually go 640x480
and keep them to about 15-30 seconds long.
You can play around with settings a little to try and make it better.
>>336112401
As did i but i was wondering if it was maybe 'New or Knew'
>>336112343
>How is Nue pronounced?
Nu-e
No (like in Noodles) e (like in exceptional)
Not a native english speaker, but that's the best I can explain it.
>>336111447
I do think the camera needs to be changed, just swing it slightly to the left of William when locked on.
Its fine usually but sometimes it just stays right behind you which means you can't see your enemy and don't know when they are attacking.
>>336107970
Wait the fuck is this? I finished the whole demo and didn't see any of this spirit stuff.
What did I miss?
>>336112343
Like "New" but with much less emphasis on the N. Or like a quirky teenage girl saying "noooo" in a goofy way.
Is Nue possible to beat in the demo?
>finally get gud with parriying, stance changing in combos and KI blasts in general
>nice well time to play around with the Axe
>...
I really miss my Katana, dont get me wrong I think its really good that you dont need to kick as since all the axes attacks drain KI really strong but the pseudo parry is just not the same.
>>336112425
How do you do the counter after the parry?
>>336112551
triangle and square when you collected enough of whatever.
Where can I get the bomb item outside of blessings?
>>336112401
Just fight level 1 renevants at beach.
>>336112551
The circle in the top left of your hud is your psirit animal, killing things fills the circle.
When its full it pulses and you can press triangle and circle to unleash your chosen spirit animal.
One of the tutorial things you find tells you about it.
>>336112551
Triangle + Circle, what do you think those cute animals were for anon
>>336112609
Only if you use the bow.
>>336112609
Both possible to beat and possible to cheese the hell out of if you use the right strats.
>>336112609
No its literally impossible like the Abyss Watchers and Pontiff
>>336112637
Press an attack button while the counter is happening.
Triangle counter is good for when someone you are not locked onto attacks, you can just let them go past you or counter attack which does small dmage but makes them fall over for a little while.
Square parry is best for finishing off low health people or just doing good chunk of damage, it does high damage.
>>336112637
Just hit any attack button right after.
>>336112649
>>336112638
Right, I was wondering what the fuck that was. Pressed a bunch of buttons but didn't think to do combination of triangle and circle.
>>336112671
I knew it was there to do something but I couldn't figure out how to use it. I must've clicked passed the tutorial.
>>336112775
It told you to press triangle and circle...
>>336112825
> I must've clicked passed the tutorial.
>>336112775
The Amrita Memories option in the menu goes over every lesson you found in better detail. The only thing it doesn't tell you about is Ki Pulse, but there's a dead body thing that tells you about it and the loading screens tell you sometimes too.
So if you can beat Nue how you do it?
>2 stages and you are already 30+
The game is either going to be super short or the max level isn't 99.
>>336112905
They are all readable at anytime in your menu.
>using any stance other than high stance
>>336112929
Bow, shoot arrows at it.
Is that a spirit that I can pick in the demo?
>>336112929
Use the roof of the entrance to hide form lightning if you cant run from it, dodge past the lightning breath and wail on its head until its Ki is gone and you can pop spirit animal
>>336112969
>glass cannon and no parry
>expending Ki that fast
>>336112947
I could never find Ki Pulse again.
>>336112929
Don't get hit and hit it till you die. It'd be easier to offer tips if you say more about what's making you lose. I'm willing to bet you're not Ki Pulsing enough and getting hit by lightning though. Ki management is really important and using Ki Pulse helps a ton with that, and he always shakes for years when he's going to do lightning, it loosely tracks and sends a max of 4 at you, so just keep moving. Honestly don't know how people get hit by that move since it's so easy to see coming but it always happens when I join people. The rest I'm sure you can figure out yourself though anyway.
>>336112941
I think they don't have Amrita values balanced right just yet, probably because it's the alpha and they want you to be able to try a bunch of stuff.
>>336113151
>an electric shibe
nice
Is there a Youngblood headpiece? I'm really liking the design for the set so far.
>>336092712
>in the future there'll be autistic NIOH fanboys who will legitimately think of themselves as being better simply because they played and finished the demo
I'll smash you're pussy in PvPonce the PS4K comes out.
>>336113089
>glass cannon
no, you can still block and roll evade
>expending Ki that fast
dont spam attack, use items, Ki Pulse and talisman
>>336112994
>>336113151
My spiritfu. Don't touch her.
>People whine about the first boss
>he too hard
>no you do this instead
>but but I use a slow hammer and not the fast spear/sword
>hmmm ok well i do a axe only run and see how it goes
>completely devastate it
So are whiners drawn to big weapon or is everything just a excuse. Just did the whole demo with Hammer and its good.
>>336113442
Hes hard because the Iframes feel different from the dark souls roll. People go in spamming with the hammer then fail at dodging his big black balls
>>336110265
>sickle and chain
>pistols
Wait, what era was this again? Will pirate cosplays be viable?
>>336113442
I just suck at this game even with other weapons.
My stat allocations were stupid.
>>336113320
>Right now there are people who give others shit then say they will beat them at somethign that doesn't exist.
What pvp?
I've only finished the first level but for a game like this I'm surprised by how few annoying things I encountered. Off the top of my head
>Definitely need a way for swordfags to deal with multiple opponents other than running away.
>When the boss does that "throw his ball at you" move, it has an insane level of tracking down to the last second of the animation. It's frustrating but also surprising how rare I encountered spinning-top levels of tracking.
>Low stance seems pretty useless. I leveled all the low stance skills yet a combo of the limited range and low damage meant it was still outclassed by a completely unleveled mid stance that honestly doesn't attack much slower in comparison. I never even leveled high stance but ended up spamming it on the boss because of how useless low is.
>>336113250
Looks like a puppy, cute as fuck.
Is the game's FPS inconsistent in battles? It looks like there's a ton of effect all over the place and I have a hard time believing it's staying somewhat steady.
>>336113553
Yeah his spin 2 win was fucking me up. Eventually I just rolled away after a couple hits
What's your favorite spirit in the demo?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10098905
http://www.strawpoll.me/10098905
>Oh man, these Kodama are cute, I wonder what the original mythological design they had
>Google images give me creepy gray fuckers with black holes in their faces
Damn, well I guess that means KT can make merchandise of them
>>336113723
i'll fite u irl my dad can beat urs
There has to be some sort of PvP though, right?
>>336113651
1600s so maybe? If it is, it'd be nip pirates not western pirates.
>>336113779
I kept underestimating his spin count. Every time i would lunge in after dodging only to be hit by the other ball as it came around again. Found him much harder than Nue
>>336113442
Axe would be the better weapon for Onryoki really. He takes so long to recover from his big swings you'd have plenty of time to wind up for your own then block if he does the gaytwirl. It's also pretty good for Nue since low stance can hit the weakspot so easily, it's just harder to stunlock so the ezmode strat doesn't work so well but you can just do it over and over anyway.
>>336113727
>Definitely need a way for swordfags to deal with multiple opponents other than running away.
See >>336112425 >>336112751
I know the webm isn't very action based but this is he best thing you can do, midstance has horizontal swings which can hit multiple people, 2 parries and your ki recharges even when holding block, thats all you need for multiple people
>>336113890
Damn.
Also there's no actual character customization right? The MC is the blonde foreigner no matter what?
Kek, just tried the Nue cheese in multiplayer. That's ridiculous. I hope they're aware of things like that and patch them.
>>336113651
It's in 1600
The first firearms were made in the fucking 13th century. People seem to think that samurai were these ancient things, but they're actually pretty modern.
Japan still had samurai when the US was dealing with its civil war.
>>336113946
I could never get parry to work but I was probably doing it wrong. Care to spoonfeed me?
>>336113951
>Also there's no actual character customization right
Outside of armor and the weapons, yeah? There's some hope for different hairstyles and that there'll be a few different characters we can choose from because of the way the mission select looks.
>>336113951
Mark of the conqueror DLC will make your character a black man
>>336113727
High stance can poke and kill people by thinning them out, mid stance's squares hit horizontal, is better at blocking and has the parries and low stance can float like a butterfly and dart between them hitting quickly. Also you have a bow, items and the choice of when to start the battle most of the time.
Speaking of low stance, it's good. Being able to put out that many hits then Ki Pulse on your dodge is really handy, and the side dodges are spins that recover really fast so you can start swinging again right away. You can also step forward to keep close and cover for the range.
>>336114123
A trans black man.
>>336114073
Cool.
>>336114070
Nothing to spoonfeed man.
Hold the block button and press either square/triangle button depending on what parry you want, getting the timing down will take you a little while, but thats it.
I you successfully perform a parry press any attack button when the animation is happening and you will do a counter attack.
doesn't matter which attack button you press for the counter hit, it will always do the same damage depending on which parry you used.
That second post and the webm go into more detail on which parry to use when.
>>336114142
this. I was thinking lowstance is bad too but after using it for a while its actually pretty strong. KIblasts with dodges and most dps out of all stances can really shine in 1vs1 or when guys are drained out.
>>336114221
Fuck, I was trying to time my block press as I was about to be hit, then press the attack button after I parried. I knew I must've misread it. Thanks.
>>336114006
It's definitely going to be redesigned for the final game, that's the main reason why they made this demo, to see what parts of the kitchen sink design work and what needs to be fixed
No wonder people say this game is too hard. Every host I join runs headlong into shit and tries to fight everything he aggro'd at once.
What do all the elemental status effects do?
>>336114326
That kind of blocking actually is in there as a different skill.
>>336114342
It's actually hilarious how ridiculously op everything that isn't just swinging a sword is. Fire shurikens do a ton of damage, makibishi inflict slow, kekkai talismans last for years and clear puddles by walking into them, and sloth talismans work on everything and have huge range.
>>336114625
Fire=Dot
Earth=defense reduction
Lightning=slowed movements
Water=stunted ki
Wind=Interrogation mark.
>>336114625
Hard to tell, so far the only ones I've figured out are fire doing damage over time, lightning slowing down movement and earth reducing Ki recovery. I should find revenants with elemental weapons and just let them hit me to find out that way. Also inflicting two elemental status effects at once makes them combine and drop the enemy's Ki gauge to zero for however long it lasts.
>>336114707
But thats good I think, those items while they can be filled at shrines are a rarity, and I hate when items arein games but it feels like there is no point to them because they are so weak.
>>336113151
2 confirmed semen demons so far? Spirit + the old hag from the trailer.
>tfw you're helping shitters get their mark of the conqueror
kekeke
How does one get summoned? I didnt even think to try when i played.
Has anyone else bumped into a bug while co-oping other people's games where they get knocked down and then their bodies are stuck in that position? The player is still moving and attacking but is invisible while his visible body is still stuck in one spot
>>336115081
Yeah it's just right now they seem just a bit too powerful. It should at least take a little investment in the stats for them to work this well. I'm hoping that the later levels and enemies will be so hard that it requires them being that good though.
>>336115170
You mean joining other games? You have to do matchmaking from the mission select screen
>>336115221
>they get knocked down and then their bodies are stuck in that position?
I got that while fighting a sentry in the temple. I was about to die when we both struck at each other and since I was fast it died while in the middle of it's attack. The attack registered and William-sama acted as if he died and got stuck on the ground.
Couldn't move or anything until I left the demo.
How the fuck do I avoid Nue's lightning strikes?
I wonder if we'll ever have a game like this where the online isn't an awful, desynchronized mess?
>>336115384
Do a three-sixty and walk away.
>>336115384
don't stand still
>>336115247
Ohh, good thinking.
>>336115384
Move. Or stand near the building in back and it'll strike the roof instead.
dont mind me just posting the only objectively good souls games
Multiplayer would be really fun if it wasn't for the fact that either the ping or the network code is dogshit.
>>336115507
Bit early to tell with Nioh but I definitely agree with the Souls. 2 is awful and 3 is mostly just pandering.
>Every Souls game gets easier and easier
>Nioh comes out
>Souls fans realize they've gotten soft
>Rant about how shit Nioh is
>>336115384
Watch his body, if he starts shaking his body like a dog trying to shake out water from its fur, either start moving, don't need to run but just keep moving until the fourth strike
But if you are very close when he does it, strike him to put him in a no ki state to be stunlocked
>>336115443
>>336115465
>>336115492
>>336115680
I've been trying to move
Fourth strike always seems to get me
>>336115538
They released this Alpha specifically to test and fix this
>>336115660
>use the same tactics for 5 games in a row
>something new comes up
>can't succeed doing the same tactics
>"it's shit"
>>336115719
Dodge the initial one and then start running. It comes down in a group of four consecutive strikes after the starting one.
Tomorrow is the last day guys.
>>336115815
I thought DSP had died, he barely got any views on his videos last time I checked, I remember that stream where he whined for an hour. Did he change his shtick or is he still "WOOOOOOW INPUT LAG IT DROPPED MY INPUT WOW HOW COULD I KNOW THAT HAUGAHGAHAHGUHAH"
Legit, I think I'll buy Nioh anyway even if the game is like 6/10 just because it takes some serious balls to release a demo with THIS much content. Can't think of another time when a demo actually had more content and replay value than most modern games.
>all these people with two weapon types
>not mastering two stances for your weapon of choice
>not rolling for two of the same weapon two stance bonuses
I have a mid ichimonji and a low osafune. I pity you if you're using multiple stances with one weapon and losing out on bonuses.
>Dark shitters try to stir shit on reddit
>Nohfags respond to the bait on 4chan
>Threads are going to become shitflinging contests and discussion is going to be lost in a sea of shitflinging
I'm not looking forward to these threads when the game releases. One fanbase is utter shit and the other is looking to mimic them
>>336115830
Bruh it said the fifth of may. That's Thursday.
>>336116024
I wonder how big the final game is going to be.
>>336116090
oh shit, i could have sworn it was the second
>>336115730
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Many have relased betas and shit and never fixed shit.
>>336116137
Nah, it's the fifth. Though interestingly that's found when downloading the mark.
>>336116262
I think he should ease off the autism and try to get a bit more serious, it's gotten real old with the being total shit at the game thing. I've watched some of the Nioh video now, and it's not like he's "good", it's just that so far it's a solid simple strategy to go against the normal enemies(they attack, he dashes, free attacks, rinse repeat). He still hasn't blocked or parried or anything, and whenever there's more than 1 enemy he starts to get fucked.
>>336116094
Depends on the route they're going.
If it's only William? Probably 15 to 25 stages.
If it's multiple characters? Probably 15 to 18 stages with some sections changed for other characters.
>>336116510
But there's only William in the demo? Where does the other characters thing come in?
>>336116557
The level select looks like one involving multiple characters.
>>336116557
Wild speculation.
>>336113828
BIRD ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>336116628
I wonder what the point of that's going to be, I mean the island's the same place, maybe they'd have other abilities or something.
>>336116510
Stages are going to have different missions as well, going by the stage select screen.
>>336116287
You're right, they released around 6 hours of content for free before even a release window just because.
>>336116734
So you pick a mission and then once you complete that mission you go back to select screen? There's no hub or something?
Why are so many people complaining about the difficulty of this game? I thought now that the Souls series was popular people would realise it's them and not the game
>>336116768
Yeah that's how the game's gonna work it looks like. The castle option has the shrine and will probably have the shop and skill trainers too.
>>336116828
If anything the full game may be pretty easy. The demo sure is once you get your loot up.
>>336116754
>before even a release window
2016. Not much considering that their "skill tree" is absolute utter dog shit and the loot system isn't satisfying either.
>>336116694
Most likely and they could be taking place concurrently with other missikns. Like Adams-sama is doing one thing while at the same time the ninja character is doing another in the same area.
When will we learn that just because "IT'S A DEMO!!!" doesn't mean anything will actually change for the full release. It happens time and time again and no one ever wises up.
>>336116828
I've gotten to the point where I can beat the first level with going to the shrine only once. Once the game clicks with you, it becomes really easy actually. Although I am using spears and ninjutsu, which people are claiming to be OP. Ninjutsu, by the way, is probably the best crowd control. I thought spear was going to be, but the enemies die before they can even get to you with the shit ninutsu can throw at them.
>be pc bro
>fake surveys saying that it's too hard
Enjoy your game, fags.
>>336117037
Doing God's work. Thank you
>>336117037
What's that quote from that nip dev where he said the game testers thought the game was too hard so he made it even harder? There's a big collection pic with that dev and two others, I think it was Kamiya and the kids and Kojima.
>>336116970
Onmyo magic is really strong as well, the buffs last forever. I like that there's different skill points to spend on the different skill trees.
>>336117037
You're kinda weird.
>>336117148
>You're kinda weird.
How so? I make tons of fake surveys with shit feedback to ensure the game is going to be garbage. I go in great detail why x and y is shit in my survevys.
>>336117037
About as hard as a hacker going into your game and softbanning you?
>>336116886
This is a game that was announced 10 years ago. They aren't past another delay.
And they asked for such detailed feeback, they absolutely will do something with it. Redesigning an UI and changing loot values won't take even a month too.
>>336117037
>>336117090
>so butthurt he went ahead and filled out a survey for a game he won't EVER play
>gook devs won't even give a single shit about any of the "too hard" complaints
>>336117245
I'd say you have autism but I think even autistic people would realize that one survey out of thousands makes no difference
>>336117109
It's the former Team Ninja dev actually, and their games got actually even harder since he left
They won't listen to "It's too hard!!" fags
So, do you unlock dlc for beating this? Is it like a code at the end or what?
>>336117397
It's going to be a pointless cosmetic or a shitty weapon but yes. After you beat the first boss it takes you to the store and you download it.
>>336117245
Well for a start Togame is better.
>>336117359
Actually, their games got pathetically easier since he left. Hell, the sigma ports of his games while he was there were pathetically easy.
Nioh the exception.
>>336117245
>he filled out TONS of fake surveys that team ninja will simply trash like they always do with difficulty complaints
sit down and think about your life for a second, maybe post some more anime when youre done
High stance axe is the real ninja oni destroyer
square + triangle = dead ninja oni
>>336117467
And then NG3RE is the hardest in the entire series
They were lost for a while yeah, but they're back full force
>>336117443
Togame is a dead slut. Hitei won. She's also cuter
>First boss
>His flail attacks are pretty predictable
>Thank fuck it doesn't pull it back and damage you as the lizard in Das3 does
>got to his second phase
>run out of elixirs
>get his hp down to 1/4
>running out of options
>realize my spirit bar is full
>unleash the fuck out of it and stunlock the boss to death
>tfw beat the first boss on first try
I still can't fucking believe it. I get absolute wrecked by those axe wielding faggots and twin nodachi oni but somehow managed to beat this boss on my first try. Great game tho. Definitely will buy day 1.
Also, I missed one kodama in the first stage. Where the fuck is it?
>>336117594
>>336117480
>taking the false flaging bait
>>336117609
Well Ninja Gaiden 3 was shit so I never touched anything beyond the original release for 10 or 20 minutes.
>>336117636
Which hat is it?
>>336117704
Has your opinion ever mattered?
>>336117704
Razor Edge is okay. It got the original battle system back and everything, while the mission mode cut most of the cinematic bullshit
>>336117675
I just had to btfo him real quick
>>336117771
If I'm not mistaken, I only have one each for the last two kodama at the bottom and the first of the list.
>>336117626
Now you're just being objectively incorrect. Hitei's the slut for being so desperate that she forces herself into the journey.
>>336117636
>Definitely will buy day 1.
See, I am probably going to hold off. If the game is like the alpha is then it is a definite buy. The survey has me nervous though.
>>336117771
Clearly, it matters to you.
>>336117780
What did it do about the quick event shit?
>>336117878
Wait, I think I have two from the top of the list, not one.
>>336117929
>What did it do about the quick event shit?
They made a non-issue after you beat the game once. They changed the climbing too, it' much faster
It's still somewhat present but you can just mash whatever during boss
>>336117878
So Oracle and hunter? There's two in the first level and one in the second. One's behind some dwellers, another is near a shortcut in the burning village. Not sure where the third one else is in the second level. No idea on the hunters.
>>336117923
Togame forced herself into Shichika at the beginning. Hitei isn't nearly as desperate; she just follows him for fun
>Stage selection says William
Does this mean we get to play more characters? Hopefully they share equip and everything.
>>336118274
>Not Yasuke
they really dropped the ball there
>>336118118
She just asked him to be her bodyguard, purely business, unlike Hitei coming in without asking. She can't even style her hair by herself, goes short when Togame's ends up like that while Hitei is nothing but a pale imitation.
>>336118456
Yasuke was like a hundred years earlier, wasn't he?
>>336118510
So what? you got demons and shit running around
>>336118456
You never know, he might be in despite the time difference. I don't see them sticking too closely to historical accuracy though.
>>336118560
Well if it was that close I could see it then.
>>336118509
>purely business
Actually no. She explicitly asked him to fall in love with her.
Also Hitei is cuter than Togame with short hair, that's just a fact anon
>>336118759
Yes so she could trust that he would do his job. Everyone knows you can't just ask someone to do that though so it's obvious she meant it in a pure way because she didn't understand.
Hitei doesn't even cheerio.
>>336119051
>she didn't understand
What a bald faced lie. You're a worse liar than Togame
Hello??
>>336119545
Is it me you're looking for?
Daily reminder using Spears in Nioh is the same as using Straightswords and R1 spamming Dark Souls 3.
I was hyped for this ever since I saw the little E3 thinking it'll either be Onimusha with another name or Nip Souls.
I would've been glad with either but gitting gud in this game is more satisfying then it was in Dark Souls, I still need to finish the demo but god damn am i enjoying it
>>336093331
>It gets especially bad in the second level where the enemies are fucking placed inside of bushes and almost completely invisible.
>wooooow how was I supposed to know Ninjas were stealthy?
>>336119741
Sad but true. Spears are for losers really, unlike axes. High stance axes.
>>336119787
Same here. It is the first game that I have legitimately enjoyed in a long time, and it is only a demo.
>>336119871
I use the armorcrusher axe and I never change from high stance. Shit is so good.
>>336119902
Can't wait for your faggotry to ruin the generals like you did with the souls games.
>>336119871
Nice to know the actual analogue to straight sword is viewed so favorably.
>>336119372
But that's exactly how it goes. You can't just ask someone to fall in love with you like that unless you're pure and don't know how it works. Meanwhile Hitei had her own ninja she used and tries to move onto Shichika when she has to. Slut.
>>336120073
Spears aren't viewed favorably though, everyone knows they trivialize the game. You should stop relying on your crutch.
>>336120246
Guess again, I use only superior nippon steel to deal with dishonorabru curs.
>>336119741
>spears are op
>axes are just swing until things are dead
Katana master race, who else in the fold?
>>336120230
She just takes advantage of Shichika's strange personality. He calls himself a sword after all, so proudly telling him that he should follow you until the end of his days is exactly what he wants to hear. The whole point is that shichika is an idiot
new thread
>>336120358
>>336120361
Pretty cheeki
>>336120361
I don't know. I prefer katana too, but they seem just as easy.
>>336120396
>Shichika is an idiot
Yeah no arguments there but he's got some cool techniques. Also she said it completely innocently without any inappropriate connotations in mind.
>>336120957
She didn't, really. or maybe she did. But part of her knew that she was really just using shichika to fullfill her goal, and the love thing was secondary
Played a couple of hours of this. Thought it was a really derivative Dark Souls knockoff at first. But once I got around how the combat system works, it kind of felt a bit like its own thing.
My only real complaint is that the first boss is really tedious. There's something really off about the hitboxes in that one. It feels like it should be simple due to how predictable the moveset is, but the attacks just don't feel like they act as if they should be from what I'm seeing on screen.
