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>he uses spear
Gomenasai, /v/!
I don't hear any YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in the menu.
>he uses axe
>>336120520
what is it you're sorry for?
Your spiritfu?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10098905
http://www.strawpoll.me/10098905
Katana is best. All the stances are useful and it is fast.
>the only good game we got this year so far is a fucking alpha demo
the fuck happened to this industry
>>336120594
You can hear one in game if you do a bare handed parry.
>>336120667
>use high stance
>attack, finish with triangle
>I should hit him with the roll but I deal no damage
Spears need to be nerfed in the full game. If they have to change anything, this is it. No more do you need to be mindful of your surroundings, and be careful that you don't get overwhelmed.
>oh shit I pulled 4 ninjas at once by accident
>SQUARE SQUARE SQUARE SQUARE SQUARE
>lol easy game
This shit needs to stop
>look up nioh on google
>/v/ is one of the top links for nioh discussion
do any other websites like this game? seems like neofag and gamefags both hate it.
>>336120667
God why have you not killed youself yet. Fuck off.
>>336120770
Shut up mid stance cakeboi
>>336120843
no, all other sites mostly hates it for the difficulty
>>336120762
Spacing is important, I guess.
>>336120667
>takes 1000 folded attacks to kill a guy that dies in a hit by any axe
at least spears are stylish with their combos, katanas are gay and retarded
>>336120979
High stance Katana does pretty significant damage while not being glacier slow like axes. Plus every katana stance is useful meaning you get way more utility. Also, dem parries.
>>336120921
That's the thing, mid stance spear is broken and trivializes the game, but the other stances are just outright inferior to your other options. high stance spear is not nearly as fun or effective as high stance sword/axe. i wont even mention low stance. Spear is the worst weapon and I hope something is done about it.
>all these weebs talking about which weapon is the best and im here throwing fire shurikens and poison at people
>huge Souls fan all the way from DeS
>finished DkS3
>can't for the life of me start ng+
>alpha Nioh is miles better than Soulsborne in terms of gameplay
Don't get me wrong shitposting about Souls, the atmosphere doesn't put a scratch to Nioh but I feel it's a genius to let Team Ninja do a Souls-like game, just like Platinum doing Nier.
>S-S-S-Stylish! tier
high spear
>folded 1000 times tier
high katana
low axe
mid spear
>gomenasai tier
mid axe
mid katana
low spear
high axe
>gas all weebs tier
low katana
hammers and axes fall under the same category right
>>336120718
No you don't.
Will we not be able to access the demo at all after the 5th?
>>336121523
mid axe and mid katana are way more fun to use than straight swo...mid spear
>>336121138
That was her original plan, but as they traveled together they began to actually fall in love for real and realise how important to each other they were.
>>336121274
But high stance spear has the leg sweep or spin which are both useful as hell and huge damage from the stabs, while low stance has quick moves, big sweeping triangles, the flip and the backstep attack from guard which are all great.
>>336121615
Yeah, same with katanas/tachis and spears/cross spears. The difference is that they scale differently with stats.
>>336121765
lame
>>336120651
I chose Raiken because I've always been a lightning-fag (the element, not the character). And out of all the mythological creatures, Raiken is the only one I was familiar with, assuming Raiken is supposed to be Raiju. For some reason, TN seemed to have slightly changed all the names for the creatures.
>>336120924
But it's not that hard. I'd consider myself a filthy casual and this game seems perfectly fair to me.
>>336121308
>exploding shuriken
Gee these might be alright, good for setting things on fire I guess.
>it only takes two to kill a statue, you can hold up to 12
Holy shit I am death incarnate
>>336121449
I feel the same my nigger.
>>336121765
This is worse than nazi germany. I want to play the demo some more, why does it have to be removed?
>see little cyclops oni
>that lil faggot tongue attack me
>chase that lil shit
>tongue me again
>small cyclops oni suddenly became BIG CYCLOPS ONI
>it regen all its health
welp...
>>336121728
Togame herself admitted that her desire for revenge and scheming was stronger than her love for him. unless you're one of those people who think she lied for some reason even though it undermines her whole character and a big part of the show
>>336122173
Only the strong and fast are allowed to obtain the Mark of the Conqueror, anon.
>going through the whole demo high stance axe and just using (Square, Square, Trangle) and (Triangle x1)
Fucking stop me
>tfw finally getting the hang of Nue's pattern
>tfw making progress on him
>watching his health drop
>tfw you realize that you've got him and it's just a matter of time before you get that good run and beat him
>That moment where you're feeling that magic happen
>Everything lining up
>Stunning the shit out of him without even using the cheese method
>Dodging the lightning
>Getting that good mixture of dodges and blocks
>Landing that final strike
>Watching him explode into loot
Oh my god this is gonna be a day 1 buy for me. It's been a while since I've gotten this kind of endorphin burst from a game
>>336122281
She could also have been lying so that Shichika would be able to get past her death and not go on a suicide mission.
>>336122343
that or many hours of dying and trail and error to figure out what actually works
>>336122343
I got the mark already. I've already done two playthroughs. I want to play more.
>>336121201
>glacier slow like axes
learn to zone
And low stance katanas do garbage damage, they're only situationally useful.
>>336122220
I found firing your bow without aiming to be extremely useful against them, just lock on and Press R2. Instant stagger, then you can just low-stance them to death.
>>336122281
Of course she'd lie in an attempt to protect Shichika's feelings and deny her own when she's about to die, far from undermining her character that stays true to it and shows how she's developed over the journey because she's using her lies to protect Shichika instead.
I pretty much only leveld heart, stamina, dex and spirit.
>>336122472
Did my 4th playthrough this morning before doing some jolly co-op. I've never woken up and wanted nothing more than to play an alpha demo before.
>>336122381
yea, that's how I beat the demo originally and it was no fun. plus, once the game comes out and PvP becomes a thing, you're going to regret not learning how to properly use the high stance spear.
>>336122474
>low stance katanas do garbage damage
Hitting your opponent is only half the battle, you should know that since you're bringing up spacing. Besides they hit like sanic, meaning you get way more chances to hit and are great for status.
>>336121934
>statue
Could they be any less fun to fight?
>>336122573
I got 12 points in Spirit for Sharkbro's lifegain passive and then put everything into Heart except for the one point in Body for Veteran armour set. Proably will play my first character like that in the full game but I am interested in magic as well; that stam regen spell card is amazing.
>>336120358
That's not Kencichi thats Rawhide Kobiyashi
>>336122573
I leveled with the intention to try out everything and still did good damage. No real sense in trying to focus on a specific build when it's a demo.
>>336122546
It doesn't protect shichika at all. He was going to go on a rampage either way and Togame knew it. She just reflected on what she did for her whole life when she was on the brink of death. It's also a way to spell it out for the viewers who might not get what Togame is really about, even though there were many hints of it
>>336122743
Statues are fun, just kick them. It takes like two kicks and their ki gauge is already empty and you can cut them up forever.
>shark triangle
UNF
Is there a level range on who you can summon?
>>336122917
She might have thought he would have but she still tried to in the end because of how much she's grown to care about him. If she was truly that deceitful and didn't care about him why wouldn't she say the opposite and use her death to fuel his rage even more so she can be sure her revenge will be fulfilled?
>>336122381
I was like you halfway till I figured out that Heart boosts your Katana damage, & rng Gods blessed me with this Katana.
>I use Katana
>High Stance Only Motherfucker
Am I cool?
Also is there a chest and torso for the Unusual armor?
I got the Mask and Arms/Legs from the first shrine in Level 2.
I wish I could beat Nue before the demo dies but I have work all week.
This game is GOAT.
hey check these videos out
>2005 trailer for the PS3 version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j14e9zTnVbk
>2015 PSX trailer,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5UG7AMhOY
This trailer shows the levels we have in the demo extensively (as well as two other it seems), but the second level is missing the rain. Also, I would just like to point this out, but I feel like this game is going to lack in diverse enemies. The second level reuses a lot of the first's enemies. This trailer doesn't show off any new enemies unless I'm missing something.
Also I remember a while ago watching an interview for this game, I'm pretty sure it was TGS. Can't seem to find anything of the sorts though.
>>336123314
>restricting to only 1 stance
>not switching stances during battle getting free Ki plus looking flashy as fuck
pleb
>>336123196
It's true that she could have been even worse with shichika if she wanted to, but that doesn't make what she said about her need for scheming untrue. She was dying, and realized at the last moment that her revenge was ultimately meaningless. Had she not died, though, she probably would have stuck with it to the end.
stance switching is the most stylish way of dealing with a group of enemies.
someone should record themselves taking on six guys at once switching stances between each kill. It seems like, for the katana's case at least, low stance is the best for spears, and high stance is the best for axes.
>>336123050
You will always be mad because I will always be calm.
We learned from each other, you and I.
I learned the ways of the deceitful. You learned that not everything is controllable.
Anyone can throw money and influence around.
How about dodging attempts at breaking your mind by the highest denominator in existence?
Aristocracy, I wish I never knew ye.
>>336123245
>400
NIGGA WHAT
>>336123503
Yeah if she had survived they would have continued the plan but afterwards? She couldn't part with Shichika even if she wanted to because of how they both felt and that's why her revenge really is meaningless, so it very likely would have ended the way the series actually did, except with Togame in Hitei's place. Like how it should be.
>>336123245
>999/999 Familiarity
Nigga how?
So i finished the demo and got the mark of the conqueror. Then I sold my PS4 because I'm moving overseas. Can I get it back later? I don't see it in my download list.
>>336123985
>So i finished the demo and got the mark of the conqueror.
You only beat the first level bro.
>>336124054
Is there another reward for clearing the 2nd level?
>>336124105
More game.
>>336124105
Yeah you unlockfun and satisfaction
>>336123985
>I'm moving overseas so I sold my ps4
>I want it back later
>>336123910
But she wouldn't need shichika around anymore once her revenge was fulfullied. Hell she even mentions it, that shichika could become more of a hindrance than anything. it's not like her plan was actually to do all this just to end up travelling the world with him afterwards. She would've gotten caught up in another power struggle for sure
>>336123919
I think familiarity is bugged so that if it's at anything less than max it shows as 0. I've got some stuff I've had for ages and some of it is at 999 and some is at 0
>>336124193
Gotta have all the cash I can get to uproot and resettle elsewhere.Also my business needs as much cash as possible.
>>336123245
>400 damage
>999 familiarity
TN is that u
Guys I actually need your help, you all seem to be having fun so surely the game isn't as broken as I think it is. The first boss has tells but running seems to get me hit, rolling gets me hit, and guarding breaks all my stamina, it's incosistent how much damage he does sometimes doing about half and sometime OHKOing me, and it feel like there's no reliable way to avoid his attacks.
Am I just too reliant on iframes from Dark Souls?
>>336123791
Heart nigga, heart.
>>336123919
It could be bugged, all I did was sell all equipment I see so I don't run out of whetstones & glues. Don't think we're 100% sure how it works.
I actually just realized it's maxed. Just keep using Katana all the time or keep switching stances in the middle of a fight. Maybe it could work.
>>336124336
Use the same tactic. Dash right or left and do hit and run attacks; dash in, hit once or twice, dash out, wait for stamina to recover.
>>336124336
I use the same timings I would use in DaS and never have trouble.
A lot of the time I'll dodge into him, or dodge sideways while strafing to circle to his backside so I can wail on him when he wiffs an attack.
Blocking should not be breaking your stamina; make sure you understand and use Ki Pulse, which is essentially Active Reload for your Stamina gauge,
My skills say that my katana uses a sword-ki when I attack an enemy after a combo with triangle but all it does it a kick.
What gives?
>>336124336
Yes, there is little to no iframes in this game, you physical have to move out of the way of attacks.
Stick to his side/back, other than his grab, all of his close range attacks either do little damage or have easy tells.
>>336124336
Dodge the slams, block the first spin, then back pedal out of his range.
Regular dodge seem to lack iframes so keep that in mind. burst dodges do have iframes though.
>>336124203
She didn't have any other plan outside of get revenge since she was so focused on it. She spoke about travelling the world before as something she wanted to do to get away from everything else but also since it was the only thing she could come up with. And how could Shichika become a hindrance to her doing anything related to warfare? As an asset he's one of the strongest warriors in the country who would be loyal to her until his death and long after hers, as shown by him living her dream. That's just more proof that she was trying to hide her feelings.
>>336124502
Sword ki is for low stance
You must be in middle stance when you're trying this, which only does kick
Don't forget, the combos and finishers are very heavily dependent on which stance you're in
>>336124502
you have to swap the kick skill out
go skill customisation and swap the triangle skill around
>>336124336
Standard rolling has much less iframes than rolling after you attack, and his chains do far less damage and take less ki to block than the iron balls, which are unblockable. You should be able to dodge his overhead slams, just stay close and dodge earlier if you feel you have to. Also his spin move is better blocked than dodged I think, just make sure you stay close.
>>336124710
>>336124691
Ahh, what the fuck.
I played through all two stages without ever taking a look at that menu.
How do I always ram my mighty katana in an enemy that is lying on the ground? It feels so random.
>>336124691
Sword Ki can be set to all stances actually, while Kick can be set to mid or low stance.
>>336124857
Walk up to it and hit triangle
>>336124910
>>336124926
Sometimes I still make the foward slash.
>>336123183
It's fucking party time then
Time to take Raikiri and split some yoki skulls
Would it be good to just focus on one weapon if I want to use more than one stance? Generally when I use two weapons I only use one stance for each of them because there's not that many skill points to go around
>>336120667
Plus it scales the most with Heart so if you go full heart you can have 200+ Ki and ~450 damage at lvl 40-45.
>>336124683
WTF? A Ni-Oh thread that's somehow talking about Katanagatari? Fuck I loved that series (books were alright, anime was amazing).
Togame was a bit of a mystery till the end imo, but I've always read it as the fact that her eye changes when she tells him she was using him and planned to kill him as proof that she was lying. Her eye's only change when she's scheming, or when she's being decietful.
She was trying to make Shichika throw away his love for her, so he would live for himself and not seek revenge.
It didn't work ultimately, but hey, we got an awesome as fuck battle out of it. And the death of Emonzaimon, who I didn't like all that much to begin with. Fuckyes.
>>336124683
It's implied she was caught up in many schemes previously, like her rivalry with Hitei. There would be no reason to get rid of shichika as long as she needed to actually use force to get what she wants but it's kind of hard to say what she would have needed, depending on her goal
>>336120358
>not using the best weapon of its time
>>336120606
What if it says NIOOOOOOH
>>336124336
Here's the first boss moveset.
>PHASE 1
Double Chainball smash - unblockable, dodge to the side for 1-2 free hits
Left/Right hand chainball smash - blockable, but easy to evade by simply be near him and walk one step left if he attacks left or vice versa then hit it once. Will follow up with either alternate hand or...
Spinning attack - Will spin twice, 2nd spin is unblockable if you block the 1st spin. Best to block the first spin then dodge back.There will be a small window to get a free hit.
Stunned counterattack - If you break its face it'll be stunned for about 3 seconds then swipe at you if you get too greedy. Can be blocked.
Back swipe - usually happens when you're behind him, may get hit by the balls when trying to dodge. Blockable.
>PHASE 2
Ball throw - just dodge
Jumping Smash - unblockable, dodge out of the way. Will create a field that slows ki recovery.
Left/Right hand smash - Blockable. I swear to god this attack has some fucking bs homing when I try to dodge to the sides, best to dodge back or block.
Body smash - unblockable. Get the fuck outta the way
Combo attack - finally hit ends with a body smash which is unblockable. If you see both hands glow run/dodge the fuck away until the combo finish.
Grab - Unblockable for obvious reasons. Will start with both hands glowing black and attempt to grab, take a bite at you then throw you to the ground for massive damage, dodge the fuck away.
>>336124857
stand near then, stand still, then tap triangle
>>336125019
Yes, less wasted stats, plus your skill unlocks tend to be weapon and stance specific
>>336125164
Emonzaemon did nothing wrong
>>336125019
You can if you want to, but keep in mind it's a demo and the actual move skills are the cheapest to learn. You'll get a ton of skill points as you level up so don't worry too much about trying to get damage or whatever, it'd probably be more fun learning to use all the different stances with weapons.
>>336125280
He and his girl had the sexiest voices.
>>336125280
He fucked up the Maniwani, and he killed Penguin. I didn't hate him, I could understand his motives after what happened between him and Phoenix, but I didn't like him.
Plus, killing Togame == Doing something wrong.
>>336125414
http://exhentai.org/g/340341/b2ef31f294/
Pic related to above
>>336125497
He's just doing it out of love for Hitei. Shichika killed a lot more people than he did.
Do I have to wait at the shrine for someone to come or do they randomly join as soon as I offer that crap?
>>336125164
I didn't even think about the eye, it's been a while since I watched the series, thanks for the backup with proving best girl. Boss rush was hype as fuck and Emonzaemon was ok except for that one act.
>>336125218
More reason for her to want to get away from such things by travelling the world. She enjoyed the trip with Shichika too and she'd at the very least need some defence no matter what she decides to do. Also, loooooove.
>>336125646
Did he? How many people did Shichika actually kill by that stage in the series? Probably not more than 10 or so.
>>336120651
shark is best but you kind of have to equip the dog for Nue otherwise his lightning will one-shot you.
>>336125785
Well we never see how many people Emonzaemon actually killed, but he kills a lot less people on the show. Shichika would probably kill a lot more if Togame asked him to as well, it's the same principle.
>>336125646
Emonzaemon's been serving Hitei as a ninja for who knows how long. Shichika hadn't even left his island or fought someone outside his family before the series begins, and if I remember right he doesn't even kill all of the sword wielders throughout the series.
Katanagatari video game adaptation with Ninja Gaiden style action gameplay and Souls style exploration
Don't tell me this wouldn't be the perfect game
Katanagatari is one of the best anime of all time.
>>336125860
Or just don't get hit by lightning
>>336125860
or you can just drag him into the corner near the gate, he can't use his lightning there.
>>336126019
>fast paced combat with awesome combos and parries
>totally unique bosses each with different mechanics and strategies you have to figure out before fighting them
>cute girls
Only question is why it hasn't happened already.
So, some of the dead guys often have different colored equipment. Do I have to get a chance at getting it when defeating them?
>>336124989
I think it doesn't work if the enemy is getting up, so you have to do it while he's prone.
>>336126550
Yes
>>336126796
Isn't that stupid?
>someone finds the most powerful equipment
>just keeps dying all over the place so people can grind his corpse
PSA you can get the best spear in the game, the tombo-kiri or whatever, before killing Nue twice. It's actually on top of the roof of a house before the Nue fight
>>336126861
I think it scales a bit to your level. I saw someone get a Raikiri in the first level but it only had 250ish attack or something. Although he could have just had a crappy one.
>>336127002
>I saw someone get a Raikiri in the first level but it only had 250ish attack or something
How do you know? Can you inspect players?
>>336127101
No I mean like I saw him kill the guy and he dropped a Raikiri.
>>336127002
>>336127101
>>336127219
I think Kou Shibusawa's revenant drops a crappier one in the first level.
>>336127101
>>336127002
>336127002
Correct me if I'm wrong fellas, but I'm also pretty sure revenants are randomized, on a timer and don't respawn.
So grinding someone's Revenant would be a slim deal
I'm worried that the final game will just have level 100 revenants with the best possible equipment dying all over the place in the first level just so you can get super OP equipment right off the bat
>>336127568
You think you'd stand a chance?
>>336127323
Nah it was someone on the beach
>>336127548
Yep they don't respawn and it'll probably be harder to get them to drop rarer equipment so it might work out fine in the end. It's not like early characters could use half the stuff anyway, they might make the weapons much weaker if you don't have the stats for them.
>>336127669
Yeah. It would take a while to whittle them down though.
>>336127568
>>336127568
Anona they're literally probably be doing like 160k damage in one swipe.
You wouldn't be able to farm a fucking lvl 100 Revenant at lvl 1.
>>336125253
This is pretty much the strategy I used. It definitely works.
>>336127730
>>336127730
That's exactly how it works.
Sub-Par states reduces shit to like 30% effectiveness.
I've seen swords and spears just 150pts of damage beyond what they were at as soon as I met the Stat Requirement.
>>336124502
Don't underestimate that kick skill though, it's really useful for making the enemies run out of stamina so that you can grapple them.
>>336127789
You could, if you don't get hit.
>>336127568
They might do some kind of scaling, so you can only see bloodstains of players within X levels of your character or something
>>336127872
Yeah I meant like they could make that scale further with stats so that if you're too low it would be 10% or something. There might be some form of level scaling too, they'd have it for coop so they could have it for revenants too.
>>336127964
>>336127964
Yeah no.
If someone bothered grinding to lvl 100, they would have like sub 30 Encumberance and enough stamina to turn into goddamn Raiden himself.
You'd be fucked, quit with your goal-post moving faggot.
They'll probably implement a Revenant level limitation.
At Soul Level 27 I wasn't' getting any revenants higher then around lvl 35.
>>336128210
>goal-posting moving
stop using words you don't understand. Also why are you so angry? revenants are piss easy and it's perfectly possible to not get hit against them
>>336123417
How do you gain ki back from stance switching? I just started. Will the game tutorial tell me or is it something you have to figure out?
>>336128374
Are you taking about Ki Burst?
After a combo, when the ki cloud is swirling around you for a brief moment, press the stance button at that time (you don't actually have to switch stances, just press R1). Your recovery segment on your ki bar will disappear right away instead of you having to wait for it to wind down before your ki starts recovering. You'll hear a "schwing" sound effect when you do it successfully.
>>336128374
The game mentions it when you check one of the tutorial corpses and in loading screens but it doesn't go into the Amrita Memories after you find it. When you attack, watch your stamina bar and you'll see it fill up white before it actually starts recovering. Press the stance button and it'll cancel the end of your animation and recover your Ki up to where the white bar was. If you do it perfectly when the bar is all the way it dispels the dark pools left behind by Yokai that slows your Ki recovery.
I've beaten both of the demo's missions multiple times and found all the Kodama in both. As far as I know, I've explored every nook and cranny in each mission.
However, there is one mystery to which the answer still eludes me. How do you use "jutsu"?
Since the game has skill trees for unlocking them and a shrine menu that allows you to ready them, I'm assuming that there is some way to use them - some elusive button combo or something.
Did anyone ever manage to use one?
>>336120358
Anyone else find Nue to be easier than Onyroki
Nioh alpha threads have a real Demon's Souls import thread feel to them
>>336129180
When you ready them, they appear in your usable item list.
>>336129180
If you have them readied via the shrine, then the items pop up in your inventory
Gotta hook those bad boys up to a shortcut key like you would elixirs or stones
>>336129180
You can use the shurikens and the talismans by binding them to your equipment slots. You know, the D-pad up, right, and down buttons.
>>336129180
Ayy lmao
You ready them in the shrine menu and then they're in your inventory. They refresh whenever you visit a shrine.
>>336129290
>>336129327
Ah, neat. I looked in there before, but I guess I overlooked them or just thought they were regular items.
>>336129258
Coincidentally I haven't been hype for a game like this since Demon's Souls
>>336129258
Thread discussion, yes, but lacks them comics. Better not I guess, bet it'll be cringey as fuck.
>>336129470
In my opinion, Demon's Souls felt a little too "only one tactic works" for me. Nioh at least allows you to use many different weapons.
Oh, and another thing I like about Nioh so far: in the first level, the shortcut you open up next to the ship allows you to go back to the boss fight faster after you die. This is way better than Demon's Souls where you have to backtrack through the entire half of the level after dying at a boss. I hope they keep this feature for all of the levels in the final.
>>336130246
Well, given that Nue has the shrine right next to his door, the key of which you can find by doing a little off-the-path exploration, so they seem to be down with that concept (As am I).
Been thinking about doing this, so list of shit people probably haven't noticed or figured out yet, starting with the one people always ask about.
>after doing an attack your Ki starts to refill up to a certain point close to where it was before actually recovering, pressing R1 will do a Ki Pulse and recover up to where the white bar is. Waiting until it fills up fully then Ki Pulsing will also clear the pools left behind by Yokai that slow your Ki recovery.
>The sword parries have followups, square parry does more damage and lets you continue attacking, triangle parry makes them fall down for a stab or to buy time
>To do Tempest, press L1 when the enemy blocks something at low Ki while you're in mid or low stance
>If you hold triangle, you can keep Windmill going until you run out of Ki
>At the Make Offering screen, press the touchpad and you can select multiple items for offering at once. Offering gives you extra Elixirs, stuff for fixing equipment, etc.
>inflicting two elemental statuses at once causes them to combine into one that reduces the enemies' Ki to zero
>The original stats for something that you can't use/is broken are shown underneath the extra effects of the weapon/armour, look for where it shows two numbers.
There's probably other stuff but I can't think of it right now, trying to strike a balance between beginner tips and stuff that you wouldn't think about or notice.
Ran out of arrows, going into mountain level, how do?
>tfw someone is gay around you and you just want to tell them to fuck the heck off.
>>336130436
That's great to hear. It's one of the things that really discouraged me from playing more of Demon's Souls.
>>336130476
>>inflicting two elemental statuses at once causes them to combine into one that reduces the enemies' Ki to zero
What really? fuckkk I played through the demo 4 times now and didnt know that. Is onboard weapon element and a different weapon buff enough or do I need to do 2 weapon buffs (does that even work?)
>>336120358
>he uses katana
lol faggot
>>336130596
I started again after realising how much I fucked up my skills
What levelling would you recommend for someone who got shit on and couldn't beat the first boss
I'm a huge Souls-fan ever since DeS, the demo is downloading right now. What should I expect before starting?
Oh fuck me. I managed to get through the entire first level and up to the boat but didn't open the gate yet and died like a bitch. And again on my way back. Everything is lost.
>>336130705
You can pretty much do it with anything that causes elements, but you can only do one element at a time with a weapon, using the weapon buffs will replace the current element the weapon has and you can only have one buff on at a time, so you could use a weapon with a element until it does the status, then use the buff.
>>336130916
To actually die again.
>>336130931
I feel sad for you. Did you forget about the gate when you first got to the shrine and looked right?
>>336130916
Don't jump into it expecting to be able exactly like Souls/BB. Just play conservatively until you've got a feel for the mechanics and combat system. Also, before you start, go into options and set it to "action mode".
>>336131108
To be able to play it like Souls/BB, rather.
>>336131108
Is that the 720p/60fps mode? I was already planning on using that considering it's a fast-paced game, but does it make a huge difference?
Demo is downloaded in a couple minutes I'm just wondering.
>>336131053
The last two guys killed me before opening the gate shortcut to the shrine. Now I'm level 9 and pretty much just in front of the boss. Meh.
>>336130964
Ah ok thanks. I will keep that in mind. Fuck I was thinking of doing another run with either Ninjutsu or Magic focused but that seals it. Defiantly will go with Magic focused and test this out
>>336130916
The thing you'll poop yourself over at first is the lock on. You can full on, back turned, run away when you're locked on, when you lightly tilt you can strafe around an enemy (blocking let's you strafe around as well). Also if you move the stick in one direction when locked on you'll kind of attack in the direction you point, so try to keep the stick neutral when attacking.
Being a Souls-fag, that's what threw me off the most when starting. I ended up enjoying it. I might buy it.
>>336131241
Yeah, it's not perfect, but it makes it a lot better.
>>336131241
Action stays mostly around 50-60, only really goes down when near flames though, while movie keeps around 30.
>>336131334
Ninjutsu can do it too with flame shurikens as long as you have at least one weapon buff or a weapon with native elemental powers that isn't fire, like the Raikiri. I just levelled up with the intention to try out everything, builds seem kinda meaningless in a demo and you get skill points so easy.
Its amazing how you faggots pretend this game is a Dark Souls rip off.
>b-but Dark Souls didnt invent that!
Jesus
>>336131773
Usually I go with a bit of everything. Have enough Ninjutsus for fire shuriken if I feel like it and Magic so I have slow and KI buff. Though I usually Keep my magic low. Maybe I should pot points into it to see how good it scales.
>>336120358
How do I kill the first boss? Should I be a certain level? Should I use a certain weapon or buff like water or earth?
>>336132507
Just hit him until he dies.
>>336132609
>_>'
What do each of the different elemental magics do? I see some sort of status effect being applied to them but I can't read it anywhere to what those status effects actually are.
>Nue in co op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tXiSnLiqCE
kek
>>336132727
Anyone else think the guardians are all broken as fuck?
>>336132507
rub your dick with fire
Kick him to burn away his stamina for ez stunlock damage
Dodge whenever he smashes, back up until you're out of range when he gets all spinny
Second phase is much easier. Just dodge behind him for most of his attacks and slap his ass with your dick
>>336132825
Of course.
>>336132502
If it made the buffs last even longer that'd be beyond overpowered, I've only got like 6 Magic and the kekkais last forever.
>>336132678
The only ones I've figured out are fire is damage over time, lightning slows movement, and earth reduces Ki recovery
>>336132826
Best weapon and stance?
>>336132992
Katana mid, personally
You need mid/low for kicking, and low just sucks in general
But I'm a vanilla faggot who enjoys missionary position under covers for the purpose of procreation, so do whatever you feel most comfortable with
>>336132825
Nah, just the living weapons thing. I think it is fine too, it just needs to be less effective against bosses.
>>336132992
You can do that with any Weapon any build honestly. I think the faster weapons he is easier but even with the Hammer he is pretty easy once you figure him out.
Here is a run with hammer for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXolDtipUNs
>>336133131
For the soul porpoise or recreation
is just ran in circles around Nue and there was nothing he could do to me. strafing around mobs in this shit is even easier than n dark souls. plus, if you hit him after his lighting breathe attack he will be instantly discharged
Hoping they show real pvp at e3 as well as customization.
Just because I just realised it, for the new guys. If the status effects are grey, it means you may not have the stat requirements for the weapon (at the bottom red means you don't meet it)
I still dont know what the elements do. I tried the bird spirit and he sucked shit,
>>336133856
The spirit select screen tells you about all their extra abilities and how their Living Weapon works. Bird gives you better drop rates, dodges cost less Ki, and the spirit gauge fills fast as fuck, but it runs out quickly and can't take a hit.
>mfw I just found the game has a filter at the offering shrine
I was selling everything one by one. Now its so much easier.
KATANABOYS WW@
>>336134209
>All those bonuses to low stance
I'm so sorry for your loss, anon
>>336134336
>he doesn't know
Does ninjutsu power even do anything? Meme shurikens seem to scale off of the enemy rather than me. Maybe I'm crazy.
>>336134728
Fire shuriken are great, the ground ninja stars can be good in 1vs3 situations and cheaper runs/rolls are always good. Also Having like 12 Fire Shuriken completly destroys PvE.
Shit I should've mentioned how equipment weight works.
>Only armour affects equipment weight, not weapons
>There are 4 levels of Agility (as the game calls it in stats), A is <30, B is <70, C is <100, each one has it's own colour so you can tell at a glance what you're at
>With a lower equipment weight class, your dodge goes further and dodging, dashing and attacking costs less Ki to perform, but the higher the weight is the less Ki it costs to block attacks and generally heavier armour has better defences
I'm sure this will all be lost to the wind anyway but that's for the future to decide.
>>336134728
Fire shuriken are strong as hell, Makibishi inflict slow, and normal shuriken can be useful for luring people over. I didn't get much use out of the poison and paralysis things though, they just didn't inflict the status fast enough and enemies just ran out of the clouds but I could see them being powerful if you had more and could consistently get them to take effect.
>>336133313
>>336133131
I did it. Fucking finally. I'm finally getting the hang of things now.
Thanks anons
>first boss
>he loses all his KI
>keep attacking him
>that white thingy appears under him
>as soon as I see it I press x to retreat
>he regains his KI and makes a jump attack
>I die
That's kinda too fast to react when you were in the middle of an attack as the white thingy appeared benath him.
>>336136676
Both bosses seem to have a certain amount of time to recover from their vulnerable state. You can predict it after you see it happen a few times
Guys, just a few more days until we are no longer able to play it again. What are we supposed to do until it comes out?
Also complain about the shitty "skill tree" in the surveys, please. It's fucking dogshit.
>>336137950
What's shitty about it? I think it's fine, I just want even more skills which will likely be in the full game.
>>336138206
It won't look like a skill tree at the end anymore because you just skill everything.
>>336137950
Protip: The skills have a completely unused 4th tier. Obviously the skill trees are temporary for the alpha
>>336136676
You can remove it with a perfect ki burst.
>>336138610
That shouldn't stop you from bitching about it. You just assume that it's not shit. Tell them that what you've seen so far is shit. That's the point.
>>336120667
of course ninja gaiden devs
japanese katana folded 1000 times
>trying to help people get mark of the conquerer
>they constantly summon phantoms
>or they don't help fight yokai
>or they never use their arrows
I only want to help
>>336120770
just make it take slightly more stamina for each enemy hit
>>336138782
That's not constructive criticism, might as well complain about there only being two levels in the alpha.
>>336138286
I don't understand how being able to learn everything if you level up enough is a complaint. Also it'll definitely be changed up in the full game, I don't see them giving you so many extra attacks on the first tier, unless they had a ton more for you to learn which would be cool as fuck.
>>336122573
all spirit seems ok
>>336139003
>I don't understand how being able to learn everything if you level up enough is a complaint
Aside from the fact that every character that you create will end up being the same except maybe the main weapon type that you are going to use? Yeah, no big deal. Right? Endless motivation right there.
>>336123329
story should be decent right?
William? Really? Just give me the nip name, please.
>>336130916
Prepare to be freed from your mortal coil.
>>336139150
I don't know if you know this, but you can actually spend points to "level up" for "stats"
>>336120358
>has a fucking lunar staff flurry of blows fron Ninja Gaiden and a stripper spin attack
Go back to Souls threads if you want to shit on spears for being boring/cancerous.
>>336125860
I beat Nue with the shark. Slow him with magic, use Shark living weapon and he basically dies right then.
>>336139150
Not unless you level up to something ridiculous. You need to level different stats to get points for the different skill trees. and even now with things geared for the demo they take an awful lot of points to get everything.
>>336133131
>low just sucks
amazing for evasion and defense, I hope they add a still that lets you nullify blocking ki cost if you parry it
>>336139714
Wew, lad. So the next time your spirit refills faster and lasts longer? And you might end up using the fire enhancement compared to the water? Shit, so many possibilities..
>>336139884
It's pretty much very likely to completely outskill your weapon tree, at least for the stances that you want to use.
How does summoning work?
I assume Ochiko cups are for summoning people but offering them doesn't seem to work. And is there an item you need to use to be summoned?
>>336134728
probably poison/paralysis effects scales
>>336130476
>>At the Make Offering screen, press the touchpad and you can select multiple items for offering at once. Offering gives you extra Elixirs, stuff for fixing equipment, etc.
You can hit triangle to checkmark items too.
>>336140008
Summon people from the shrines, be summoned from the mission map
>>336138846
>Get host to shortcut ladder
>stand next to ladder
>whistle a million times
>they move on and spawn a yokai
>walk into flames to suicide
I'm not whistling for my fucking health you dipshits
>>336132507
I used a katana low stance and constantly use sacred waters to dodge and run away from him without running out of stamina.
>>336139949
eh, sounds like you want more "rpg stats", doesn't mean the system sucks, just you personally don't like it
i mean even dark souls pretty much boiled down to what you just said
I'm assuming at some point the "power" stats will actually do something to how abilities scale
>>336130671
DeS has shortcuts on like half the levels
>>336139904
That's kinda what katana mid stance already has.
>>336139949
I'm at level 46 in the demo. It costs 600k Amrita for me to level up again and I still haven't maxed out the katana tree. The skill trees are nowhere near finished either since they're going to have more skills in the real game and the numbers will be different all over.
>>336140229
9 times out of 10 gestures don't animate properly to your partner. So it probably just looks like you're standing still.
>>336140229
Gestures don't always work, I think it's based on connection but most connections suck so most of the time they can't see them.
>>336140308
so midstance instant block into ki burst?
doesn't also the kill tree only have 1, 2, and 3 petal options? the 4th isn't in the demo
>>336140308
>it's just a beta!
>they'll fix it before launch!
Glad to see this meme is still alive.
>>336140270
>i mean even dark souls pretty much boiled down to what you just said
No, you've got many possibilities in DS that I don't see here. Hell, you had at least to decide if you want to go weapon enhancement or magic, here you just level it with you.
>>336120594
One of the loading screens does it.
>>336122220
Use the charged triangle shot with the spear. Aim them towards a wall and just stun lock them with the repeated attacks.
They really, really, really need to make the tough fight music harder. Like when you fight the oni cyclopes or whatever. That music is so cool but simply not loud enough compared to the rest of the environment and music.
I really really want to like this game but oh boy does it feel like a chore to play. I have no idea how the game expect you to fight 4-5 enemies at once.
>>336140731
I never had to fight 4-5 enemies at once, senpai. 2 at most.
>>336140464
It's a skill you learn where if you block just before they hit you they stagger and lose all their Ki. I don't remember how much Ki it costs you but it'd probably be the same or less as blocking. Also yeah the 4th row isn't available but it's not like they couldn't build further downwards or just add more rows.
>>336140468
>this demo only has two levels
>that must mean the full game will only have two levels
I didn't know common sense was a meme now.
>>336140842
The gate leading to the house with the demon inside, the moment I go near the entrance I aggro like four guys, one of them being a hyper-armor samurai. Been stuck on it all day
>>336141000
You could have pulled all of them out 1 by 1. That reminds me of the YOLO picture of DS2 with the narrow passage.
>>336132727
How do you gain back Ki when using a Living Weapon? Can you Ki Pulse and I just haven't been doing it?
>>336140731
you can't post a picture like that without giving source
>>336141128
He can do whatever he wants, redditanon.
>>336140468
>They won't change anything because muh ms paint comic!
Glad to see this meme is still alive.
>>336120762
>Post a """"stealth"""" pony image while trying to be on topic
>>336141000
Stones, arrows, or come around from the other side and do the same thing.
>>336140731
High stance can cut them down one by one with sheer damage if you play carefully.
Mid stance has better defences with the parries and the square attacks hit horizontally so you can catch multiple enemies.
Low stance can dodge in and out and poke at them over and over.
You can also use items or the bow to thin them out before or during the fight, or just run to spread them out. You very rarely are forced to fight multiple enemies at once.
>>336141062
They're behind walls? How do I aggro one enemy when they're in symmetrical positions behind a wall? I don't even need to go PASSED the wall to aggro them.
>>336141000
There's another path that leads to the back of that house/git gud
>>336140229
>>336138846
>host wants to go ambush way, don't follow
>they refuse to follow me but refuse to push on without me
>after 20 minute staredown they follow me the right way to the new shrine
>they see the shrine, turn around, and head back to the ambush
>>336141251
Aggro the guy looting the corpse, then play peekaboo with the camera until you can lock onto one of the guys behind the wall and throw a stone. Then repeat for the other side.
>>336141251
Jesus, anon. What the fuck. Use a stone to pull one out. You never pass the wall, you stay behind it and throw it from the side.
>retarded ape turds like that complain about the game being too tough
The industry is fucked.
>>336141187
>psg
>pony
How new?
>>336141090
When you get Amrita in whatever way the gauge refills depending on the Guardian Spirit you have. Hitting Yokai when they have no Ki gives you Amrita, that's how people can sustain it. Ki Pulsing doesn't do anything unless you do a perfect Ki Pulse, which sends out an elemental blast that does extra damage. You gotta get a feel for the timing though, I never saw any onscreen indicators like the normal Ki Pulse.
>>336132825
Yeah. If anything needs to be toned down it's this, not the difficulty.
>>336141251
You could just take the other path around the mansion.
>>336141521
>Hitting Yokai when they have no Ki gives you Amrita, that's how people can sustain it
Really? I must be missing something. I haven't experienced this. Typically my Amrita runs out while they have no Ki left.
>those blacked out options in the shrine menu
Invasions? Possibly?
Being an Underworld servant makes more sense than alternate timeline souls stuff anyways.
>>336141692
>invasions
>clan
>...
>>336141654
It's really obvious on Nue. Honestly I'm not 100% sure it happens on the others, I'm mostly assuming it and haven't bothered testing it in detail but I'm pretty certain. You can also use Spirit Stones if you want to be really cheap.
>getting killed in one hit
I'm assuming this game is trying to be a bullshit version of Dark Souls.
>>336141908
Its just poorly balanced early on. Don't worry though, later enemies/bosses won't OHKO, they'll just stunlock you and then kill you in 2-3 hits, its much different.
>>336141908
Try picking up and equipping a single piece of armor before quitting and whining about it
>>336141692
The final game will have clans (covenants). Underworld clans and normal clans (good vs evil) You can play the role of a demon samurai invading the other clans to collect their heads. Underworld clans will have monster girls, demons and other yokai as masters while normal clans will have real historical figures as their masters.
I completely made that up.
>>336141908
That's not even true unless you get hit in the back by an axe.
>>336141908
Are you ready for a world where devs just ramp up the difficulty to be LE EPIC HARDCORE and no one can criticize it without being told to get good?
It's fucking genius
>>336141908
Maybe you shouldn't turn your back on the guy with the big axe when wearing a shirt.
>>336142053
Maybe you should try blocking instead of trying to dodge and then assuming nothing works when that doesn't.
>Wow how was I supposed to know a enemy was there
>Game has a radar telling you every position
>_>
>tfw when you finally get the Mark
I just can't figure out Low Stance with Katanas. It honestly is complete garbage. Killing shit fast and in as few hits as possible > lots of quick yet limp wristed attacks with an awful reach.
>>336142265
>Game has a radar telling you every position
Only as sharkbro, no?
>>336141908
Gettu guddo
>start up demo for the first time
>beginning looks just like the tutorial of witcher 2, geralt included
UH, NIOHBABS?
>>336142413
You go fast.
>>336142413
I only use it for escaping. The damage is absoutely shit. I can only assume the final game will have status effects you can apply and stack them. Like bleed or poison in DaS.
>>336142413
Don't use square, you can cancel your attacks with dash and that works as a ki pulse
>>336142413
Yeah but you can Ki Pulse just by dodging. I only use it for the cyclops kids and the weird skinny demon dudes who crawl on the ground.
>>336142436
Well yeah but why would you use anything else?
>>336142695
To have your personal semen demon buff you? Like >>336120651
>>336142595
Each element has a status effect, they're already in the demo.
>>336130916
To die a lot. While the game certainly takes a lot of elements from the Souls games, the style of combat isn't really one of them. It takes getting used to.
>>336141167
are you his boyfriend?
Bros, someone said that you get your spirits from boss fights.
Do you think the boat boss drops one of the spirits already available? If so, which one? Does Nue drop the lightning dog?
>>336141187
You're a legit retard
>>336120667
I've literally only used high stance. What are the other stances good for?
>>336143042
Mid has a lot of parrying options, High is damage and Low is for speed.
>>336143042
Mid stance for not being a slow shit.
>yokai with dual katanas
literally impossible
>>336142983
You start with the lightning doge
>>336143346
>use your spirit
>slash him away
>nothing personal, kid
or
>use a bomb / exploding ninja star
>watch him burn
>>336143429
I still have no idea how to use ninja shit
>tfw you made a fantasy pirate and just wanted a scimitar
when does the demo end? is it tomorrow?
>tfw beat first boss
>can not make it past swamp and no arrows
Enemies cut through me like paper.
How far is shrine to shrine difference?
>>336143623
There's one shrine right next to the boss, and a shortcut across the stage that opens the gate next to the first shrine.
Gamespot was complaining about the difficulty and said they dont want to play the final game if they keep it like that.
>>336142836
But the game doesnt tell me what it does. I know fire foes dmg over time because I can see them burning but I dont know about the rest.
>>336143938
>Gamespot
Is that even a thing in Japan?
>>336140731
>tries to take on 5 guys at once and gets shit pushed in
how about you start slow fempai
>>336143346
They can be a pain but just low stance to keep up with them then high stance when they flip to take advantage and do damage. Or aim for the Ki gauge.
>>336143573
They're like items, after you ready them from the shrine you equip them to your shortcuts. There's also an option to put them on the shortcuts right from the Ready Jutsu menu.
>>336141000
can lob bombs and have like a half of die chasing you down to the beach
>>336143346
Have you tried using Ninjutsu? The fire shuriken and slow debuff destroys yokais like they were nothing. I also heard you can parry flippy ninja.
>>336144034
Just have to figure them out for now. So far I know fire does damage over time, lightning slows movement and earth slows Ki recovery but I haven't found out about the rest yet. Also inflicting two at once makes them combine and empties the enemy's Ki.
>>336141461
>>336142990
I would normally say "I hope you're baiting" but I don't want ironic shitposting anywhere
This shit is old
If it's PSG or that hat duck from some shit show it's Ponies
>>336142075
Where can I read more about them? Were there any interviews or what? How many clans are going to be there? Any source, pls.
>>336142075
>Underworld clans will have monster girls, demons and other yokai as masters while normal clans will have real historical figures as their masters.
>I completely made that up.
That was cruel, anon.
>>336120358
I fucking hate Nioh.
It's hard for the sake of being hard because of Dark Souls and the director wants to make his own Souls game.
IT even has bonfires equivalents for fuck sake.
Difference being the Souls series are fair. Hard but fair, with ballanced gameplay and level layout.
Nioh is hard because it wants to be hard and have people bragging in forums about how Nioh is cool because is "muh hardcore game".
>>336142518
This game is witcherborne : onimusha edition
Am I the only one or did anyone else get the feeling that not-Geralt isn't going to be the only playable character? When choosing the level there's no reason to have your character portrait and name take up half the screen, unless it's so that you can switch to a different character. Since this is a Team Ninja game and there wasn't a SINGLE big titty ninja I'm going to guess that there's going to be at least one playable character which is possibly going to be a large breasted qt. Maybe a Ryu Hayabusa secret character.
>>336144430
Lol scrub.
>>336142871
Yes.
>>336141908
play depriaved and get hit a non mook enemy
>>336144436
This game literally has nothing to do with The Witcher aside from idiots claiming William looks like Geralt. Which he doesn't.
My Nioh picture folder already grows.
>>336143938
Even DSP managed to beat it though...
>>336144517
That's what I'm assuming too. Maybe even have the different characters use different weapons or have different move sets with those weapons.
>>336120358
>he uses a morning star
>>336142413
try blocking/dodging then sidestepping into high stance change into triangle
>>336144732
Yeah it doesn't have anything to do with the witcher but come on, the protagonist actually is geralt
So if you get the Mark of the Conqueror by beating the first level, what do you get for the second?
>>336142695
nerfcity
>>336144530
How the fuck are his arms so skinny? If he swings around that sword as much as he says he should have SOME mass there.
>>336144920
Fun?
>How DARE they making ME play a free demo where I don't get something every time I beat one of their shitty stages.
>>336144920
The game for free.
>>336144920
Fun times and some kickass weapons.
>>336143346
fire and slow him
>>336145013
he has dex you fag
enjoy your slow movement
NERF SHARK
>the little tiny shrine boys
Why would I collect the missing ones once I finish the are? I'll move along anyway and I have to search them in the new area again anyway, no?
>>336145213
Why not buff the rest, you fuckboy.
![0e5758c347581427abb2217e44a5aa13[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/duDLmgt.jpg "0e5758c347581427abb2217e44a5aa13[1]")
>>336144517
>>336144430
>hard but fair meme
Never gets old, I actually wonder when and how did it start.
Souls games are not hard in general and when they get hard people shit thesmselves and yell "artificial difficulty" under the misconception that everything they've done so far required immense amounts of tactical thinking from them and the game is just being unfair at this point, because they want to have the privelege of playing a "t-tough but fair!" game but without having to be challenged. Good examples include: O&S, Fume Knight, Pontiff Sulyvahn and other casual filters that force people to go on some anime bulletin board and post hateful messages for other people to laugh at.
Thing is, all difficulty is artificial, there is no such thing as "natural difficulty", so either adapt and play the game by it's rules or stop playing because you're shit.
>>336145368
It would make everything too easy. Shark is just too strong. Please understand
>>336144890
but gaijin would love to play as the alpha weeb
>>336143346
I gave up on trying to fight them normally. I'll basically only attack then exclusively after they finish attacking now because I can't deal with them any other way.
>>336121912
See. This is one thing I have to get straight here.
Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were created to not hold your hand, but otherwise had its challenge and not be bullshittingly difficult like everyone seems to think and the way Souls or anything FROM related is marketed (thanks retards SO HARD!!11!)
As you know, Nioh has been in development over 10 years and it's had numerous iterations. The creator/director/whatever has openly stated that he wanted to make a "hardcore" game and based a lot of its elements off Demon's Souls, completely missing the point.
The result is starting the game where you get killed in two hits by the first handful of enemies. Fantastic. Absolutely wonderful and you have retarded marketing and fans to blame for that.
The worst thing is that I've beaten the demo and enjoyed the fighting mechanics and the setting thoroughly, it's the need to pander to being TOO HARD and now we're gonna get retardos saying "it isn't hard" when it's actually designed to stack the odds against you unless you make any and every fight 1v1 until you level up some, to the point where the challenge is gone because you have to self monitor the difficulty yourself.
But I'm going to get ignored and my post disregarded because I need to "git gud", even though I've beaten the demo and enjoyed what it was.
It's just a god damn shame that they need to cater to "SO HARD" so openly when they were doing difficulty before FROM with Ninja Gaiden. I am a little upset, yes. FROM's games are never gonna get away from being "SO HARD" shit and this game is going to focus on being hard too. It ruins it, they could have plenty of challenge.
TL:DR Souls games weren't designed to be bullshit or overly stacked against you until you levelled up; marketing and fans could ruin a very good IP for it being "too hard" and then e-peen wavers getting off on "not hard" when the game forces using a bow or rocks until you overlevel
FYI, I beat the demo lv 27 with some 275DMG Katana
>>336145072
>>336145073
>>336145086
chill senpai, just wondering if there were more bonuses
>>336145272
The more little guys you have the stronger their effect will be.
1 little guy - 5% armor drop
2 little guys - 10% armor drop
Etc.
>>336145670
But only in the stage where you find them, no?
>>336145374
>Momiji can be used instead of Geralt.
P-Please.I can already see the DLC.
>>336144517
Tokugawa Ieyasu and friends
>>336145752
Nope, it works in both stages.
>>336144436
>>336144732
>>336144890
I heard that the concept of NiOh and William sprung into the existance before Witcher games became popular, but I don't have any kind of source and would actually like to be more informed on that.
Also
>accusing TN of stealing ideas from FROM when it's been a thing for a while now
japs often make bootlegs/borrow concepts from other japs, shit's nothing new.
>>336145752
Not sure.
>>336145973
So, you might end up with +100% and the end of the game?
>>336145563
Not reading all that shit
But having the katana samurai having hyper armor using the same exact moves you have (that lack hyper armor) is pretty fucking lame
On the axe enemies it makes sense
>>336145992
Ninja Blade was a shitty fun game.
>>336144517
>yfw they will go full fanservice just for the sake of outdoing FROM in terms of waifus/husbandos
>tittymonster/milf character
>loli character
>2,5 meters tall musclewizard character
>trap character
>>336146185
Maybe. I think they put a cap and introduce new little guys instead to increase other stats.
>>336146185
Possibly if they kept the same numbers, but I think they'll spread out the kodama a bit more and make them not give 5% each.
>>336145563
I agree with you.
I really hope this game has a sick one on one boss fight with a rival samurai.
>>336146393
>Team Ninja trying to out fan service another game
Anon please these guys making a living selling virtual lingerie in DoA5
>>336146393
too bad there's no really known kunoichis
No ninja honkers no buy.
>>336146393
From can't hold a candle to team ninja in terms of fanservice
>>336146196
I deliberately ended with a TL;DR, or are you new to the phrase? I shortened my fleshed out post to a single line as best as I could
I agree on hyper armour on katanas too. It's silly enemies get it and you don't.
>>336146676
The Takeda clan had a whole squad of them.
>>336145563
So we're getting a better/more casual pandering version of NG3
Found the first waifu.
>>336146881
>More casual than NG3
Lol literally impossible.
>>336146196
This. I fucking loathe it when a games difficulty is based on the fact that enemies play by different rules that don't apply to the player. It feels pretty cheap how some of these enemies can't be flinched yet anything can sneeze on you and that completely interrupts your combo.
>>336146904
She's got a rather large bust.
>>336120651
Yo where my wind niggas at?
>>336145563
I fucking wish souls games legitimately catered to the mythic "so hard" audience as you make it out to be, I really do. Maybe that way we'd have a decent community. If soulsborne games were actually hard all the way through on top of having retarded "lelsohard" marketing policies it would've been fine.
And I remind you, 37% of people never managed to get past Gascoigne, and Fume Knight Raime had 93% winrate at one point. There is nothing wrong with filtering out shitters, and I sincerely hope the game stays as challenging as it was in the demo.
I hope you all mentioned this in the survey.
>>336147471
What is this?`
>>336147051
yea this; you could solve it with heavier sword class but then also the issue comes up that some bigger enemies will just have insane poise. The problem is that people automatically think normal humans types can have to use the same rules (not magic/demon/etc)
>>336147471
I hope you all mentioned the bad UI!
>>336145563
>when it's actually designed to stack the odds against you unless you make any and every fight 1v1
Wow, if only the game gave you the tools to make every fight a 1v1.
>>336147537
Objects can block the camera instead of turning transparent.
>>336147371
Nigga, when you are a strong nigga you don't need to fear some fucking wind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9wChrdCD54
>>336147398
The problem with the game right now is that it's pretty hard in the beginning but becomes easier as you progress. I hope the full game will have some much harder sections to counterbalance how strong you can become
>>336147471
hopefully alpha, think ninja gaiden doesn't have this problem
>>336147051
Bloodborne had the same problem and I hated it. World hunters with 99 on every stat and that faggot cunt in the cathedral who can 1 shot you with his gun. He was harder than most bosses.
>>336147371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-lWxz5fc9o
>>336147471
I'll remember to tell them someone can't keep track of his surroundings or control the camera well.
>>336147051
I think you can do the same thing if you wear heavy armor though
>>336147771
I think that mostly has to do with the fact that there are only two levels, and the second is scaled to level 25. You can easily get to 40+ just fooling around in Multiplayer a while.
Link to survey?
>>336148198
I'm wearing the same armor as the heavy guys are and I can't do it.
>>336148489
Google nioh survey
Oh boy I love when my weapon hits off of a wall but the enemy's clip through it
>>336148354
Well another problem is that the shark trivializes the bosses among other things
>>336148572
Enemies weapons hit walls too. I have seen it happen all the time with axe and spear wielders.
>>336148591
How does it trivialize the bosses? The levels, sure, but the bosses?
>>336148591
How? I'm using the Shark but I'm not noticing any major differences compared to when I was using lightning dog.
>>336148591
>shark trivializes the bosses
How so? Only used the bird.
Guys, how likely is it that Sephirothsword57 makes a review of the demo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71gG754VYlw
>>336148591
I think that's a bug exclusive to Nue. The shark has some kind of life steal mechanic, and I believe that is triggering on Nue and extending the living weapon indefinitely because of it.
>>336148726
>>336148746
>>336148782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd4Xhg49caM
>>336148591
just learned you can instantly stagger bosses hitting them at the right time
>>336148889
It's just that the shark living weapon lasts extremely long I think. I should try it on other big enemies. It seems overpowered though.
>>336148726
When Nue runs out of Ki, you're able to stunlock him and get Amrita for it like other Yokai. However, his Ki gauge works like the stone soldiers, in that as long as you're able to continue attacking, it won't refill. If you give him any space he recovers it. The Living Weapon gauge refills as you absorb Amrita even while active so if you put all that together you can destroy him if you can keep up the assault.
>>336148889
No bug, the shark just has the longest time and reduces the least with Ki usage.
I'm missing a kodama in the first area, looks like one of the Oracle ones. Any idea where that would be?
>>336147398
Sorry pal, but the marketing and the fanbase see that. They have to make an element of nonsense. Dark Souls II is a gleeming example. Dark Souls III had its moments of stupid shit too.
You don't seem to understand what I was getting at, at all and that appears to be part of the problem here.
>>336149048
That's Nue exclusive. It's not just a shark thing.
When you hit it's head and stomach you have a good chance to stagger.
The range you get off Living Weapons let you hit both, increases your chance to stagger it infinitely.
Your meter never goes down because when you hit Nue's stomach it gives you souls, which give you meter, thus causing an infinite loop.
Both bosses are weak to Water, so using Shark is a good idea. But stunlocking Nue isn't Water Summons exclusive. I've done it with the bird as well as the shiba.
>start the demo
>controller vibrates
>HYPE
>it literally never vibrates again
>>336149048
I don't understand. How does that make Shark easy mode? Nue just happens to be weak to his element. That doesn't make it any stronger or weaker than the other Guardian Spirits. What about the boss fights where the Shark won't be so effective anymore?
Also that's kinda lazy that using a Living Weapon gives you a laser sword instead of a corresponding weapon based on what you are using.
>>336149048
The same happened with lightning doge.
>>336149530
Just go and buy a vibrator already.
>>336149454
Did you get the one behind the fire on top of roof? After you beat the yokai and get a key, that area, once you progress enough. They're all in very obvious places mate.
>>336149492
Well I think something needs to be done about the potential stunlocking on most bosses with the summons then. Like some way for them to recover after X amount of hits, without attacking instantly after recovering
>>336149625
>>336149048
makes sense that they would actually use the counter elemental spirits super effective
>>336149625
Shark also last for the longest time. But still, if that's possible with every summon then summons are OP in general. I hope the next bosses will have better defenses against them
>>336149625
Shark is considered easymode because while it takes the longest to fill up it takes a really long time to run out, so it makes the strat even easier since even if you mess up and get hit it'll last long enough for you to get the weakspot again
You actually do get a spear and axe Living Weapon if you're using them though, and they each have their own different moves.
They should watch out before nerfing the spirits too much. The entire stat will be useless when they are too weak.
>>336149794
It was just an oversight as Nue has two stagger points, head and stomach. Oni has two as well (two horns) but after you break them his staggers points are gone and you have to go the traditional method of wearing his ki down.
But with Nue, when you slap his face and he gets staggered normally you can't restagger him if you wail on his head. But if you go for his stomach it will cause him to stagger. Then you just alternate, between the two.
I doubt something like this will remain in the real game, or in the beta if that comes out after the alpha.
>>336149951
Shark also takes the longest to build up.
>I hope the next bosses will have better defenses against them
Wishful thinking, but we can hope.
>>336150114
Do the spirits give passive stats?
>>336149767
I got the one on the roof,
>>336150114
You get a shitton of HP from the Spirit stat.
>>336150158
Yeah but you don't skill spirit for the passives. Hell, I don't even think it's affected by the stat.
>>336150158
They do, you can see what they give you on the menu for selecting them and in equipment. Some of the bonuses need you to level Spirit to unlock them. Also the Guardian Spirits themselves will be able to level up in the real game so they'll probably be more balanced then.
>>336150251
The same as heart. So, why skill spirit when the spirits as nerfed to death?
>>336150184
they're all very easy to spot
I'm sure you've levelled up and have some decent equipment too so just try looking around a little
if it's an oracle one, it may be on level 2 at the very start (behind you) or behind the first archer in the tree
if it's not there, just go back to the first level and look around; walk off buildings and check around every corner
Can someone explain to me this "Hard but fair" meme?
What is unfair in Nioh?
Can I make a cute female samurai?
This is important
>>336150251
Actually, scratch that. I wasn't aware that Spirit unlocked new passives for the Guardian Spirits and the Shark passive for 8 Spirit is +100 more Health. That's why I thought Spirit gave a lot of HP.
I laughed at this.
>>336150502
You can't make anything as the characters are pre set, but it's pretty obvious that there are going to be multiple characters in the full release. Since this is a Team Ninja game, a playable qt female is a given,
>>336150480
I found it, it was the one surrounded by zombie yokai
Quick question, for the Souls series we have typically compared it to things like Berserk and Lovecraft, what works would you say Nioh draws from or has similarities to it?
Other than the Souls series of course.
>>336150651
Momiji as DLC.
>>336147958
Not just Bloodborne. Pretty much every Souls game has had some sort of hollow that has some sort of crazy uninterruptable flailing attack with infinite poise.
>>336150720
Kurosawa would be the most obvious one.
>>336150651
>characters are pre set
Dropped so hard
>>336150501
Don't worry anon
Its just a bunch of Conquered.
https://youtu.be/kCMecReCjC8
Fuck I'm doing this just to find nue.
Level 27, should I just use light armour?
>>336150939
So, instead of git gud we make fun of them being conquered in these theads?
>>336149625
>>336150506
This reminds me, Shark's passives are focused around defence and survivability unlike the others, so that's another reason why it can be seen as the easier pick. Of course it's all just down to how you want to play at the end of the day
>>336149065
That's how I beat Nue. Run in every time he does the laser beam attack and combo the shit out of his face, breaking his lightning, then get the fuck out before he spins.
>>336122220
They will revert to their little oni forms after a while, without getting their health restored.
>mfw clearing out an entire level with just bare handed parries
Who /doing1500damageinonehit/ here?
>>336150983
>has kekkai talismans
>doesn't use them
>kicks down the tree when he isn't going to use it
That guy doesn't know how to go fast.
>should I just use light armour
Depends on how you fight, if you're more aggressive and want a decent dodge then it's better, but wearing heavier armour makes blocking cost less Ki so if you're more patient it could be the better option. Weapon choice is probably a factor too.
>>336150983
Armor doesn't matter if it's light/heavy. Focus on the passive stats of the armor, remember you don't get the benefit unless you have the stat requirement to use it.
Also pay attention to equip load.
Below 25% = A Agility, furthest dash distance, lowest stamina consumption for both attacks an evasion.
26%-50% = B Agility, far dash distance, low stamina consumption
51%-75% = C Agility, Meh dash distance, meh stamina consuption
76+ = D Agility, Shit dash, and highest stamina consumption
100%+ = F Agility, no dash, and all your stamina consumed causing instant fatigue
So how do I use ninja/magic shit? Cause the game clearly doesn't want to tell me
>>336125164
>Katanagatari? Fuck I loved that series (books were alright, anime was amazing).
Possibly one of the worst animes I've ever watched.
It's not even so bad it's funny. The characters are shit, the script is shit, the story is shit and it uses so many overdone tropes that even other anime like Tower of Druaga makes fun of it.
>>336150720
Imagine like Kurosawa's Seven Samurai, but the samurai got the village late, the villagers all died by the bandits or they become Oni and want to kill everyone.
>>336151754
You gotta ready the jutsu at the shrine.
Once you read it, the talisma/ninja weapon will appear in the inventory and you can put it on the quick select button.
>>336151754
Load ninjutsu. Then equip this shit in items.
I can't beat the first boss.
How are you supposed to take out something with THAT much health?
Is it because i'm using a spear? I normally do like 300 damage per hit, but against the boss i do like 100
>>336151754
1. Level up and spend points in ninjutsu or magic
2. Got to your skills me unlock the stuff you want
3. A nee Ninjutsu/Magic tab is now unlocked on your shrine
4. Equip the stuff you unlocked and put them on your items shortcut like it was a rock or elixir.
>>336152049
cheese him with bombs, Living Weapon, fire tally, etc.
>>336151649
Actually it's <30% for A and <70% for B, and as I just said blocking in C costs less Ki. It's like less than half the cost compared to blocking in A, makes a huge difference. Being over 100% is hilarious though, you just can't do anything.
>>336152049
Bait for ground pound, hit 1-2 times, get the fuck out of there, repeat until dead.
>>336152049
Once you take down his Ki bar, he takes more damage.
>>336150842
>>336151849
This may sound like heresy but I never watched Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai. I watched the Magnificent Seven but I doubt that will make up for it.
>>336152049
Your weapon is probably fine, just be patient and take opportunities where you get them, and change stance where it's appropriate.
so how do I obtain this game?
I looked on steam but couldn't find it
>>336151649
>100%+ = F Agility, no dash, and all your stamina consumed causing instant fatigue
heh
>>336152497
PS QUADRUPLE EXCLUSIVE BITCH NIGGA
>>336152403
Imagine Magnificent Seven, but he got to the village late, every villager has died to the outlaws, you can hear their last thoughts and who survived became chupacabras.
Now put a Katana in their hands and make it be night all day long
>>336152497
repeat after me: never ever
>>336152049
Get the level 2 Kekkai Talisman and pop one before the battle starts. Then do what this guy says>>336152319
Note to do this with either High Stance Katana or Mid stance staff.
When he breaks his chains try not to back away as much for he can chuck those balls at you pretty hard and fast.
Just get in on him, don't forget to pop Kekkai talismans and you should have him dead in no time.
>>336152248
what so C is better than A at blocking.. interesting
>>336150720
Legend of the five rings
>>336152248
>blocking in C costs less Ki
Source? Are you sure you're not confusing it with the "Guard KI consumption reduced by x%" in talents
>Realize the game rewards blocking over dodging so much more
>Game becomes 10x easier
>>336152049
Tried for a day and only beat im after learning to ki strike faster than light and dodge roll.
Get sloth and explosive bombs, utilise dolphin, make sure to use ki strike and dodge after hitting once or twice. Keep distance when doing it avoid his spin.
>>336152778
Doesn't C also have poise? It looks like lighter isn't necessarily better in this game
>>336153128
Yea I feel like it might be stats from the armor that is doing that
>>336120358
>>336120601
>hating on spears and axes when they are all around best melee weapon
>>336153145
blocking is also smartly balanced out by weapon degradation
>>336153147
What's ki-strike?
Do you mean Ki pulse?
>>336153128
No, I tried it myself after I was curious about what heavy armour might give you. I also compared the effects on both and they were about the same, with neither giving boosts to blocking. It's definitely being heavier that does it. I really like it cause it gives a clear advantage for going heavy that extends beyond the event of you screwing up.
PLEASE tell me that the big nig in front of the huge door in level 2 doesn't respawn
>>336153579
Right right, sorry.
>>336153604
would make sense that heavier armor set lowers ki on block but lighter armor recovers ki faster.
In a PvP sense it would balance out as faster person will be able to strike several times whereas big enemies just strike once (except fucking ninja oni)
>>336153669
he doesnt
>>336153669
The cyclop? He doesnt. All of the onis with the white circle on the ground do not respawn.
>>336150720
>what works would you say Nioh draws from or has similarities to it?
Japanese folklore and history is like 95% of the inspiration.
>>336122474
Still WAY too slow. Have fun getting destroyed online when the game comes out, since you'll never be able to "zone" anyway with your shitty weapon. Axes are trash.
If the game explained half the mechanics properly, it wouldn't have such an access barrier to new people.
>>336122474
iirc my first character (high level?) did like 240~ on backturned bosses
>>336154797
Also the moment you put on a single piece of armor you instantly take like 50% less damage
>>336154797
That's the fun of it. It slowly teaches you the new stuff and because there is so much of it it doesn't blow your fucking head in.
That and it's a fucking demo.
>>336120651
>hes not a swordsmen of the sky
get aload of these fucking plebs Bird for life.
>>336152049
Use high stance. Anything but high stance strong attacks does almost no damage to him unless you are severely overleveled and overgeared. (like coming back after finishing the second mission)
>>336155065
Show me a bird that can kill a shark. Oh wait, such a bird does not exist.
>>336155183
Show me a shark that can kill a bird.
>>336155256
sharks kill birds all the time when birds dive to catch fish
>>336155256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dNxcXtnpKA
TO: literally impossible people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmUPfN33a8
>>336155110
>people not using bird
>allows good drop rate for gear and items, especially with a blessing
>fills up fast
>perched on your sword mound
If only it lasted longer. Or had radar.
What is its effect?
>>336128351
Probably because you don't seem to understand English. A level 100 repentant would have far more stats than any revenant you have fought so far. It would rape your ass, even if you had eternity to practice.
>>336150890
is reading the full sentence this hard?
>no tiger spirit
maybe later
>dsp killed the first boss on his third try
>/v/ still cant beat him
>speed run game
>beat in 24 minutes
>grind multiplayer games with bird
>get 460 damage spear
gg easy game
>>336155470
Oh my god that looks so cool. Now I want to play low stance only.
>>336155470
Low stance is incredibly stylish, but I find it to be pretty ineffective in most situations compared to to the others.
>>336155413
Son of a bitch.
>>336156238
pretty good at closing the gap honestly you get a strike into sidestep for almost free putting you inside and you can switch to stance/weapon then
>>336155962
>tfw worse than DSP
I swear I saw some fag with a cape. How do I get a cape?
>>336156758
some armors have a cape
>>336155962
What level?
>>336156758
rare drop fight those revenants
Post the build you use to defeat Nue.
>>336156758
Young blood
>>336156758
The Youngblood body armour has a scarf.
>>336155582
Actually it would be the exact same thing as the other revenants with more health and damage. even if you're too shit to beat one at level 1 it'd be perfectly doable at level ~30 or so with a good weapon and decent armor
I really wish they just copy/pasted Dark Souls gameplay. I like everything about it but the core gameplay, feels so clunky and messy.
>>336156898
2nd character, lower level than the first
mostly on spirit which i'm not good with or rarely use living weapon, just gave decent amount of samurai/ninja points
>>336157660
>spirit
you do realize spirit stops working in the demo correctly after like level 10?
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