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>*flicks cape*
>*draws Uchigatana*
Nioh demo is out.
>*cuts you into thousands of pieces and teleports behind you*
Remember to turn action mode on, to improve the FPS and fill the survey once you've finished it. http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_uk
If Dark Souls 3 feels like shit to you, this one might turn out worth your while.
>>335661857
>nioh_uk
Is there a non-muslim version?
I'll post a couple of webms
POST TIPS PLEASE I fucking suck at this game
>>335662909
Dont touch the glowing red sword mounds. Completely useless mechanic unless you want an ochako for some reason
The graphics fucking suck, this looks worse than dozens of PS3 games.
>>335663545
Though touch the ones with red names.They usually drop good shit.
>>335662909
Learn enemy behaviour.
Put points in your life if you're really bad in the game.
Learn to fight properly with a weapon type and stance before moving on to the next one. I personally prefer middle stance because you get nice parry bonuses.
Looks great, if I get a PS4 this seems like a good pick up.
Ps4 exclusive?
another forgotten game that I'll never play
HOLY SHIT WHY DOES EVERYONE HITS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKING TRUCKGame is fun but I really suck right not, it is not a carbon copy of Dark Souls as many people HERE said
>>335663929But it is
Animations feel ridiculously stiff, I hope they smooth it out before release.
>600p
>you didnt buy a ps4
Seriously how the fuck is 600p ok in 2016
So I just finished the demo. Fucking awesome game. Is there a better weapon than the electric katana that the boss drops? It outdamages even my hammer by 50 points. Tried a couple more runs but other than a pretty good spear nothing new seems to be dropping.
How many weapon types are in the demo?
I heard something about twin swords but I dont know where to get them.
>>335664213
By having the competition be even worse.
i have a hard time pulling off special move but i guess i need to git gud i guess.
>>335664213
by not being true :3
>>335662518
Spears already more viable than in souls.
>>335664539
I finished it. Have only seen Katanas, Spears, Axes, and Hammers. Although I think hammers and axes have the same moveset.
This game looks like shit.
When do enemies not one shot you? I'm wearing full armor and I'm still dying in one to two hits. I feel like it's hard for being hard's sake, not fun and challenging. It seems stupid as all fuck.
>>335664714
dont forget bows.
>>335664715
A-class input. Maybe you should try it.
>>335664814
I don't own a PS4 and this game didn't convince me to buy one.
Run the game at 30 fps at 1080p or 60fps at 720p. The game looks cool, as in the combat. But it looks worse than Dark Souls 1.
>>335664787
Try using equipment and investing in Life points.
>enemy raises arms to attack
>chance!
>hit him twice but he doesn't flinch
>kills me
Fug.
Pretty good for an alpha. I feel like all they need to do is fix moving and targeting and its near ready to ship.
>>335664715
It is shit. Poor controls, poor FPS and bad combat.
Alpha and all that, but these are things that need to be hammered out early in development.
>spears
>suppose to be good on crowed control
>cant stagger for shits.
>>335664810
Right. And bows. Unarmoured headshots hit like a fucking truck.
>>335664787
Put some points into health. The beginning of the game is by far the hardest part because you have awful damage reduction. Make sure not to get hit in the back because back hits will always end you (in the second level I got hit for 1700 damage.
If you're dodging make sure to be in low stance, if you're blocking make sure to be in middle stance. Get really good at the ki bursts (after a combo your stamina bar will turn blue and rapidly fill, if you hit R1 or change stances your stamina will be regen'd instantly to the end of the blue bar).
Beyond that learn the moveset of each stance. Learn to punish enemies when they're low on stamina.
>>335661857
Can you parry in Nioh?
>>335665094
>>335665141
>people are falling for the alpha meme
So what's a good all around build for when the full release comes out? Was thinking Skill/Body with some points in magic for the talisman buffs.
>>335665426
yes, unfortunately it doesnt pave way for ripostes. Just getting behind your enemy
>>335665358
Axe/Hammer is the best for crowd control. Spin2win
>>335665426
Yes, but the parries are mostly to put you in a favourable position, as opposed to dealing ridiculous damage. Except for the bare handed parry, which is essentially an insta kill.
>>335661857
how do you turn action mode on?
>>335661857
This game is incredibly bad. Lke, I actually didn't think something this bad could be created.
>>335665039
each stance has a unique perk.
high stance is that when swinging a heavy in it you will be immune to stagger from light hits(which is most probably what the enemy did to you)
mid stance has the least stamina consumption when blocking.
low stance has the stamina recovery mechanic activation on the evades and rolls too not just on r1
>>335665545
yeah, i learned that later.
>>335665548
It's a setting you access from the main menu
>>335665613
So if I see the enemy is gonna swing down on me, I should block or get the fuck out the way.
>>335665418
>Unarmoured headshots hit like a fucking truck.
Like they should.
I was positively surprised bows were actually viable.
>>335662315
how do you do it? guarding at the fright moment?
>>335661857
Can you switch the controls to make it x to interact and circle to roll?
>>335661857
>Completed the game
>Tried downloading DLC
>It bugs out
>Can't get back to the DLC screen again
My life is suffering.
>>335665585
Amazing input, faggot.
>>335665510
but it does pave way. they just dont tell you. buy the parry from the tree that is activated by triangle in block. after you successfully parry with this one press triangle again right away and you will stab your sword in their necks
>>335665901
Kill yourself, nigger.
>>335664047
it's combat is literally completely different
>>335665832
It's a mid-stance perk. You have to unlock it.
>>335665843
I think you can.
>>335665939
no u.
>>335664047
HOLY SHIT you can roll????? possible dark souls reference????
My only gripes with the game are those crawling fucks and grab attacks. Grab attacks because they have never, ever felt right in any sort of action game (Ninja Gaiden, Dark Souls, e.t.c.); they just feel dumb and the antithesis of the what the game is actually about. Thankfully they aren't 1 hit kills in Nioh.
The crawler enemies because they don't really fit with the game and they're massive cunts. Both of their grab attacks have fucking insane hyperarmour and have priority over every other action in the game it seems. I've been hit out of mid dodge for christ sakes by one of those cunts. Also they have stupidly huge range and accuracy with those firebombs.
>>335664708
Spears are the best weapons in both games and you clearly haven't used the dragonslayer spear in das3 it's op
I really, really want to like it... but I don't. The gore and samurai aesthetic is great but the difficulty is so far up its own ass that you can tell they just wanted to say "LOOK AT US, WE'RE WAY MORE DIFFICULT THAN DARK SOULS! BUY OUR GAME AND PRETEND TO BE SCARED/ANGRY ON YOUTUBE AND TWITCH SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY MARKETERS!" and yet it's not even a legitimate challenge, it's just absurd one hit deaths over and over. I don't even care about the graphics despite how outdated they are, but just holy shit what a disappointment. With a huge tweak to the damage values and stamina, as well as better level design and enemy placement, this could actually be really fun. Probably far too late for that though and they probably aren't interested in any input that compromises their "vision" of trying to outdo Dark Souls.
>>335665776
you either just dodge/roll and make them waste stamina then wail on them. or parry the swing and wail on them
>>335664924
typical pc cuck always has shit taste
>>335665852
Check the main menu
>>335666182
how do you parry?
>>335665956
>>335666034
I bet you think Lords of the Fallen isnt a souls clone either
Fash-Nioh! Post weeaboos!
>>335666136
Well their games had always been harder than Souls even before souls was created.
>>335666096
>My only gripes with the game are those crawling fucks and grab attacks.
Goddamn this. Those dudes were fucking dick in every regard.
>>335666280
I just want to wear the Youngblood armor the whole game, but i'd die at my first mistake
>>335661857
So are katanas actually good or are spears and axes better in every way?
>>335666357
They're the dogs/crows of this game
>>335665982
any idea on how? it won't let me in the controls menu
So I beat the boat-boss and decided I wanted to go back and explore the rest of the first level. How the fuck do I get back to the level select screen now though? Do I have to completely redo the first level to get back to it?
>>335666136
no. the damage values need to stay as is or the game will be ruined. the game punishes you if you play it like you are playing darksouls and rewards you for respecting the game and learning it. toning down damage values will make it viable for you to just play it the way you play other games and it will be ruined imho
>>335666349
Doesn't work here, it's not Ninja Gaiden and does not have the same fluidity or speed as that. It's a game that is trying to be Dark Souls, and therefore the comparison is valid and obvious.
>>335666261
The dream is alive!
>>335666442
Oh, I just presumed that was the case when I was flicking around this the title screen menu.
>>335666274
your fucking retarded that's a stupid comparison nioh isn't a souls clone in any way
>>335666096
>>335666357
The crawl faggots only fall down when their stamina drops to zero. You can take distance and wait for them to stand back up again.
This seemed like a good tactic to me.
>>335666270
first press the touch pad. go to the skill learning menu and learn the one that says triangle on block. now when you are holding block and you press triangle, you will do a brief animatiom with your sword. if the enemy attack lands on you during this animation you will parry it
So how long is the alpha?
The camera when locking on really fuck in bugs me. Instead of panning with your character, you still free run like a retard. Fun ass game though, spears are great.
Stupid question: How the fuck do I use bows and throw ninja stars and shit?
>>335666280
Just got done with Nue. Man I hope we get more fancy weapons like Rakiri. If only I wasn't such a stat whore I'd be wearing one of the bamboo hats.
The 1st boss is fucking insane. The timing for dodging his ball and chains is bullshit due to the half dash you do before the roll.
>>335666136
Damage is perfectly reasonable.
Why should you be able to take two slashes from the greatest sword to ever grace the Earth, the Katana, when you're wearing a shirt?
It was MADE for cutting down unarmored peasants.
Once you get armor, only axes are a threat.
>>335666627
I just went High Stance and bodied them, but sometimes their grabs just say fuck you
>>335666357
The worst part is they're very difficult to see and they always have one lying on the ground right beside every yakoi or whatever the notOni are called. I've literally been 3/4 through the swing animation with the high stance axe heavy attack and have been grabbed out of instantly by one of those shits that was in the path of the axe.
Also what the fuck is going on with captcha and its 'multiple correct solutions required please try more' bullshit. I miss old captcha.
>>335666634
Haven't finished it in 4 hours yet.
>>335666716
Is that a dual katana?
>>335666634
Pretty fucking long, I sat down for seven hours playing it but didn't beat the second boss.
>>335666724
Stay close to him while circle strafing and blocking. You can get easy hits until the second phase. After that, you need to time your dodges correctly whenever he goes to pick up one of the balls to throw. The balls can't be blocked, but the chain that connects to them can be.
>>335666706
Bows: equip and hold L2 to aim, R2 to fire.
Headshot kills most mobs in one shot. It's so satisfying.
>>335666552
Okay anon
>>335666634
Two levels. The first one is slightly bigger since it's a small island village. The second level has more yokai encounters and feature the worst enemy type in the game: ninja.
>>335666706
the lock on is for camera only. if you want to force you char to keep facing an enemy then hold down block and move while blocking.
equip a bow and arrows and you aim with l2 and fire with r2. ninja stuff you buy the skills to use them then put them on your dpad shortcut and use them like items
>>335666634
I beat it in about six or so hours. Most of that time will be spent in the first level learning how to not get bodied by everything else in the game. Second level seemed a lot smaller and probably only took about an hour. That was taking my time and exploring every nook and cranny of both maps too.
>>335666828
>dual katana?
Unfortunately not, it's just a katana and it's sheathe. It's the one you get from the second level. Well can get, I'm not sure how exact getting Rakiri is.
>>335666761
Turn on legacy captcha in settings.
>>335666854
Nice, thanks.
>>335666879
The ninjas weren't that bad. They did barely any stamina damage while mid stance blocking and were easy as fuck to parry. Unless you were primarily using axes or hammers then I understand your pain.
>>335666706
Ninjitsu and spells have to be attuned at a shrine
Then you equip them on the quickbar
Really wish there were more than three item slots since one is always gonna be elixir
Normal Shuriken are pretty much just better Stones, but Flame Shuriken kick ass, very useful
>>335667080
Mid stance is the best stance.
>>335666629
only for katans or can spears do it to?
>>335667080
I just got ambushed several times and am a little mad. Heavy stance axe makes quick work of them.
>>335667195
Spears, katanas, and bare fist
Bare fist does the most damage but Spear parry has the most utility, Katana parry just gets you behind the enemy
>>335665545
>as opposed to dealing ridiculous damage
>backside damage buff isn't ridiculous damage
>>335667331
Spear master race
>>335667405
It's only really 1.5x damage. The bare handed parry is what I'd call ridiculous damage.
>>335662909
don't get stamina penalty, and ki pulse
>>335667195
i still have not seen any parry move in the spear tree. i am dumping all my points in the swords tree. i can tell you for sure that the initial skills to learn for spear have no parries. beyond that i do not know yet. we may have parries for spear since learning skills unlocks new skills to learn. spear parry may be deep if it exists
so spear and katana or spear and axe? which is the better setup?
>>335665039
good poise actually matters for once
>>335667514
2 kat.
Kitana and then whatever you find preferable. I kinda wish the axe's low stance had a better finisher.
>>335667514
they are all useful. spears and axes destroy crowds. katanas i found most effective on samurais and ninjas
>>335666096
luckily the damage from the grab is nothing, just poison
>>335667640
Katanas are also pretty good on the oni/larger enemies.
How to defeat the boat demon once he decides fuck it and starts throwing his balls at you?
>>335667923
low stance.
How do I join someone elses game?
once you git gud at parrying the normal enemies become a lot easier
>>335668027
What just fuckin attack in low stance?
Can you invade another world as a dark spirit?
All my shit is broken and I'm out of whetstones, what do
What is the point of those red sword things? I assume they're where other players died or something, but why does it look like you can summon them to fight? Also, fighting more than one enemy at a time is impossible.
>>335668324
How to parry? Just block being real tricky?
>>335668398
Fight with your fists
>>335668398
Farm mobs for weapons.
Use the imp blessing bonus if you have that one yet.
>>335661857
Thought that was fucked up Witcher art at first.
>>335668473
It's a skill you have to buy for spears
>Nue
>>335661857
Everyone should be telling them that there needs to be more item shortcut slots. L3 isn't used at all so they should've made that weapon switch instead.
>>335667923
that's the easy part
>>335664708
I'm actually still using my starting spear from the herald and it's pretty fun
>>335668213
Please somebody! Anybody!
>>335668610
He does look pretty much exactly like Geralt. You start the game even wearing something very similar to Geralt's basic outfit without armor.
>>335661857
How the fuck do I beat the first boss??
His ball and chain attacks have a ranom one shot me move with NO tell according my shit skills
help me
>>335668390
the way i killed him is never attack. just move around and attack only after his jump attack. otherwise keep your distance and you kill him easy like this
>>335666552
Literal map design, combat and movement controls, even fucking texture design. This is a Chinese Dark Souls clone plain and simple and the first three webms shine this clear and bright as the fucking Sun. A part time modder could have done better to hide this obvious train wreck.
>>335668795
>>335668213
Second this, how do I get summoned?
>>335668961
When you finish the first level, you can select matchmaking for either of the two levels in the demo.
>shit breaks halfway through a single run of an area, making you farm for repair items which is boring dull pointless and dumb
>stances are just a wasted mechanic when you can stun lock any basic enemy with any stance and the bosses are quick enough to make doing anything but running in for a single quick swipe and then running away a totally improbable strategy, thus making all the stances in that case functionally identical
>Has a super move that charges over a long period of time but lasts like three seconds once you actually use it, subsequently making it a total waste to use on basic enemies that you can easily kill without it
>Except you also drop it when you die, so it's not even like you could continue to charge it between deaths while you kill enemies on your way back to the boss you just died to, again, making it pointless
>Game wants you to buy your way into skill trees governing specific types of weapons, yet also expects you to be switching weapon types all the time anyway since that favorite weapon of yours will break in two fucking minutes anyway
>Dodging even on low stance feels totally ineffectual unless you dodge backwards completely away from any attack- at no point do you feel the confidence to dodge through an attack and continue fighting both because the actual move is so finnicky on if you're going to take damage, and more important because any attack turns into a combo and takes out 2/3 of your healthbar, making you not want to experiment at all
>your experimenting is further punished by the health item grinding, repair item grinding, and the bizarre act of dropping your super move when you die
>the game fully expects you to use cheap, unfun, enemy-pulling tactics to fight them 1-on-1 because fighting multiple enemies is so ridiculously imbalanced; your options are either to already have a crowd control weapon equipped beforehand, or sprint until they leash
inb4 git gud. it's just not that good.
>>335665039
High stance means they can't be staggered dummy
If they raise their arms go for a dodge and they will lose a fuckton of ki then for a finish stab with triangle
>>335669019
Where is this at? I'm at the level selection screen and there is no option for joining, and the shrines themselves don't allow me to do anything but summon visitors.
>>335669156
Highlight the level and push square.
>>335668795
after finishing the level you can get into matchmaking on the map select screen. but it is all random. no way now to join specific people/friends
>those fucking yokai zombies
>the forces of the underworld and bandits team up to kill you
This is retarded, why do the bandits ignore the fucking demons?
I like the descriptions for some of the weapons
>>335668660
Nue's easy pz. Just get your spirit to ten and have Raiken. The lightning drops go in a series of three after the initial one so just walk away. Having Kekkai talismans are also pretty useful since he's underworld zones: the boss.
>>335669226
I'm so god damned dumb and blind because I completely missed it. I didn't realize the option was at the bottom of the selected level. Thanks buddy.
>>335669489
How big is the download lads?
>>335669697
>Trying out Ninjitsu
>Shurikens are meh, just essentially rocks
>Flame Shurikens are literally explosive death, melting the heavy enemies in pretty much just one
>Leveling it up further gives you exponentially more, because the second upgrade can be equipped with the first giving you 7
>The 3rd level will be 5, meaning you could have 13
Jesus, and the best part is you still get sword levels too so you're not completely gimped when you're out. Seems like the scaling is either bad for them or bugged though, since it seems to hit for the same regardless.
>>335669797
>ni-oh can either run at 1080/30 or 720/60
>the PS4 is officially as powerful as the Wii U
No wonder why Nioh and the PS4 Neo have a similar name.
>>335669536
What's Raiken?
uhhh excuse me but I asked
HOW BIG IS THE FUCKING DOWNLOAD?
>>335669935
probably one of the guardian spirits you can choose from
>>335666274
You can see the NG influence in the game from the webms alone.
The presentation is similar to a Souls game, but the combat looks like NG3 with more weight.
>>335668446
you summon them to fight and it's also where they died
>>335670028
Ah ah ah, you didn't say the magic word.
>>335670103
please
>>335670136
It's like 3.7gb.
Game could be decent, but only after some serious rebalancing for stamina, damage, weapon and armor condition, etc. Basically, just skew the numbers to somewhere more reasonable because it's just broken and annoying as is.
>>335669935
One of the guardian spirits, the last one if I'm right.
>>335670028
It's 3.4 gbs it's taking fucking forever for me
>>335666136
/thread
only full autists would want to learn so many new patterns for a fucking demo of a fucking japshit dev
I'll stick with what I know: Dark Souls
>>335669148
the stances are an amazing mechanic. managing and maximizing your stamina. always dodge in low. always block in mid. stances also provide you with the tools you need to deal with crowds instead of pulling 1 by 1 which you can still do. grinding is never an issue and experimenting is not punished at all quite the contrary. i kept finding myself overflooded with gear that i will not use and i just kept offering them and foind that i am always full on elixirs glue and whetstones.
the spirit super mode is for you to use strategically for perfect opportunities for immense burst. no need for ut to last long. example that debunks both your spirit and stances complaints: fighting first boss. get into high stance to have access to vertical hits. hit his horns. they will break and he gets stunned. go spirit saiyan and rape him.
All your text shows that you did not really play it, just watched it and shitposting.
and if you did play it then you sound like you refuse to learn the game
>>335666136
>>335670403
Get armor you faggots and learn to block, every block in the game guards all damage even your fists.
>>335661857
I really liked it. After I beat the boss on the ship is turned it off to reflect.
I think the Diablo/Borderlands loot system works well and helps seperate it from souls. The game was challenging but fair. Every death was my fault. The skill-tree was a cool addition. I really enjoy being able to fight other player's ghost via their bloodstain.
The only things I would change so far. Either give more elixirs or make them easier to find. 3 just isn't enough considering how much they heal.
Gear breaks WAY too quickly. It doesn't make the game more challenging, just annoying. I don't want to spend time grinding gear after getting beat up by a boss too many times. I didn't see a way to repair my gear other than my weapons via whetstones. And those are still very limited.
Hopefully the full game has character creation
>>335670438
Do breaking the horns on the normal Oni enemies do anything?
>>335668893
How does low stance help here?
>>335666738
>game is actually somewhat accurate historically
>>335670682
Bee stings and paper cuts, with a greater ability to dodge and get away from him.
>>335670551
no idea. never tried it on the normal ones. but i think it is a boss mechanic and not possible with normal one. just an assumption though i may be wrong
>>335670438
>grinding is never an issue
could've fooled me you daft cunt, seeing as the game is making me use progressively shittier weapons because it won't give me a fucking whetstone, making it harder and harder to fight the fucking boss when I'm using a basic shitty spear instead of my baller-ass axe.
Go suck Team Ninja's cock some more though. Everything they do is perfect and their alpha demo doesn't have any flaws. You're totally right. Yep, they should release the full game now because it's not like they have anything to improve on. It's not like the entire fucking point of the demo was to get feedback you stupid bitch.
>>335670761
It's possible. When I was going through Nue's level and got over to Oni central, I cut off an axe oni's horns. I didn't see much change in his behavior though. It's definitely very peculiar to aim for so it might not do anything to regular oni.
When you use those red sword things to fight "revenants" is that summoning actual players in or just an AI ghost of them?
>>335670941
Ai ghosts, unless it's a dev ghost then it's still an AI but it's more like an npc ghost.
>>335670229
>>335670061
Well, that was good advice. I beat him without too much trouble once I figured out how to avoid his lightning.
>>335670941
They're summoned way too fast to be real. It makes it even more aggravating when the computer mocks me when I die.
>>335670941
i thought they where real at first
>>335671070
Yeah the lighting's deceptively easy when you get a hang of it. Now baiting him into tumbling to show his tummy is harder.
How the hell do I use skills? I bought Heaven Flash and it says to press forward and X at the end of a combo but when I do he just dodges around like normal.
>>335670941
It's an AI-controlled avatar of that player that mimicks their fighting style and wears the equipment the player died wearing. Any stuff you get off a revenant is something that player had.
>tfw fine with playing on movie mode
Yeah, it sucks, but I really can't stand playing an HD game like this at a low resolution, especially since I can't play it on a CRT.
>>335671278
Same time, if it's the low stance katana ender then he'll run up an enemy and drop down if you pull it off. It's much easier on the bigger yokai.
which is the best guardian spirit also which stats are best to level?
first frame rate test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAWm2-Od5QE
seems fire is the major FPS killer.
>>335671486
>best guardian
Isonade or Kato, though Shark is best if you have 12 spirit. Your stats depend on your weapons, same with some of the more specialized armor.
>>335671317
It makes no sense why they couldn't make movie mode be 60 fps. Memes aside, the ps4 has run much better looking games at higher framerates.
>>335671557
Yeah, far and away the worst drops in the demo were around the burning village area near the docks.
>>335671350
Thanks. I also figured out that it seems to work more often if I hold X instead of tapping it once.
>never played any Souls game
>not having trouble with this demo
What the fuck? I stayed away from the Souls games because I don't exactly enjoy too punishing games but if they are easier than this then should I try them?
Or is /v/ just fucking horrible at vidya?
Music rip when?
>>335671668
Both, it's both.
>>335671668
Souls games are maybe a little easier on the whole than Nioh, but /v/ are largely Godawful at videogames, especially for the amount of time they put into them
>>335670545
>I didn't see a way to repair my gear other than my weapons via whetstones.
Nikawa Glue repairs all equipped armour. Don't know how you considered them rare, I was always carrying 9 of both. As soon as I had to use one enemies would drop more to replace them near instantly.
>That area in the burned village on the roof where a demon and TWO other human faggots team up to kill you
LITERALLY
FUCKING
IMPOSSIBLEHELP ME
>>335671834
>not sniping the humans for ez damage and then just lmaoing at the yokai
For real though, bows are great.
>>335671646
I mean, it IS only a demo.
>>335671929
>Using ranged weapons
Other tip that dosn't involve being a faggot?
>>335671956
git gud
What if the reason weapons are so fragile is because breaking enemy weapons will be a mechanic later on?
>>335671956
stop being you
>>335671956
Hit them until they die
>>335672019
You can already break enemy armour.
>>335672019
Or what if the reason weapons are so fragile is because actual Japanese weapons were fucking fragile as shit
Man I was really hoping I would like this game.
The combat and stances are interesting, but the first boss just isnt fun, and shit breaks way too quickly.
The level design isnt very good either.
Hopefully the final product is much different because it really does have a lot of potential.
>>335672115
So then we've been lied to all this time about the katana and its superior ability? I don't think I can accept that.
>>335671780
Thanks for the info. I stand by what I say about how fast gear degrades being annoying though.
So these Ochoko's are for summoning other players I guess? How do you get summoned? Or maybe its not even implemented yet.
>>335671775
Is there a lot of backtracking in Souls?
When is someone gonna post the locations of the little fuckers to send to the shrine
8/9 on the missions screen is like a massive middle finger
>>335669790
5 Gigs or so.
Do you get anything for finding all the kodama? I missed one in the first stage.
>>335671956
You're the one who cried about shit being impossible.
>>335672214
Yes anime has lied to you
>>335672201
>but the first boss just isnt fun
>Which means i am fucking shit and i cant git gud
Its Demon Souls all over again.
See you in 5 years worshipping Ni-OH 6
>>335672234
Not often, the game has tons of shortcuts you unlock as you go.
>>335672256
Same, I KNOW where the last one is, but I don't know how to reach it. It's just sitting in that mountainous foresty area near the shrine. it looks like you need to drop down from a higher ledge but I never found a path towards it.
Just a heads up
katana means japanese sword in nipponese
>>335672319
>Not finding a boss fun means I cant beat it
Nice
>>335672356
No, nihon-to does.
Yes, that triggered me
>>335669887
It'll become the norm. The whole point is that if you buy a Neo, you'll be able to play at 1080/60.
Watch it.
>>335671956
Trygitting gud.
>Ki isn't some magic shit instead its stamina
>levelling stamina dosn't level stamina
>instead heart does
Like.
What the fuck?
Just beat the chimera. Felt really good destroying it with mid stance katana and ki pulses. Staying to the left of it seemed to work the best. Only really dangerous attack was the lightning from above.
Overall great demo and I'm still really looking foward to this. I really wish they got rid of the random loot system though. I just keep acquiring so much shit and its a pain to keep on selling and switching out stuff. Weapons and armor are something that they should've actually took from Souls.
>>335672347
You talking about the one next to the shrine after the bow shed right? Just walk to the right after surprise axe man tries to attack you and there's a drop down right there.
>>335672201
Yeah, agreed, there's a good game somewhere in this but it's definitely not there. If it releases this fall, there's no way it changes enough to become that either. Shame.
Beat the demo earlier. Took a little to get used to, but once I did it was a lot of fun. One thing I don't get it the complaint about weapon durability that everyone seems to be complaining about. Is it because you all block all the time? I pretty much never used guard unless it was against a boss, and I pretty much solely used a katana the entire time. I never really had to use a whetstone, except for maybe 2-3 times, but by that time I already had 9 of them. The only thing that was rough was fighting more then 2 enemies, but even then utilizing parrying and backdashes it's really not that hard. Can't wait to play the full game and see the different locations and weapons to get. Enjoyed it a lot more then I thought I would.
Where the fuck do I have to go for the first boss?
I activated 3 shrines and the only part I haven't completely explored is when you have to dash through the flames in the village.
Do I have to continue through the flames?
How the fuck do I kill the Oni guarding the shortcut to the shrine in the temple?
He seems the same kind of oni as the first level boss whom I killed on the firt try, but this one is wrecking me.
>>335672797
Yes you must carry on through the fire and flames.
It's the big boat in the background.
how to farm ochoco cups?
>>335672497
You need to have a strong heart in order to fight to the death for the glory of Nippon
>tfw onimusha souls is brutalizing me and I love it
It's pretty fun. Only played for an hour or so but I've enjoyed it a lot so far.
>>335669489
>>335669697
>>335669797
>>335669879
Are all of the equipment descriptions this cool?
What does "summon visitor" do in the shrine? I thought this game didn't have any summoning system other than fighting AI phantoms.
>>335663929
It's realistic! I was surprised when the first enemy one shoted my level 20 with a throat slash.
>>335672912
blood mound things
>>335672950
there is coop.
>>335672816
The door shortcut for the start or the one that need a key?
>>335672837
How do I get good at fighting groups?
If there's more than two enemies I will probably die to them.
>>335663929
It doesn't copy everything from Souls (the stances and loot systems are the most different things) but there are so many other mechanics that are lifted pretty directly from Souls.
>>335673023
the one at the start, I manged to open it without killing the oni, then the oni killed me and now the fog is there I've done about 15 tries can't fucking down it even at half his health.
>>335661857
>die from 2-3 hits
>killing enemy takes 6-7 hits
>stamina drain punished too hard
>controls are clunky
>if lock camera on enemy and go back char will turn instead backstep facing the enemy
>camera is bad overall
>enemies will follow you forever
>also they are patrolling area so they can attack you from behind when you fighting another foes
>it works awful considering your health
>quckstep take too many stamina
>block usually take nothing, incouraging standing
in block and waiting enemy spend his stamina hitting air
>fighting more than one enemy is too hard so you forced to cheese and kite
>too many useless loot making you inventory garbage can but must carry fuckton of weapons cuz they break
Can any veterans of the demo give me some basic tips on how to fucking play this game.
Because I feel like I barely understand the combat especially ki
>>335673084
Mid stance and spears or axes, learn how to pull effectively and fuck people up quickly. Damas help as well.
Quick, post your William!
>>335673084
Don't fight groups unless you have great weapons, the game even warns you of this; just run away and separate them.
>>335673130
Low stance until it does its punches. It's a one eyed one right or just a regular yokai?
>>335663545
>Parry them once
>Win
Barehanded is a bit OP in that respect. Good for grinding co-op cups that you'll never use because using co-op makes the game harder.
>>335673149
Not him but how the hell do you separate people? I got caught up with 3 enemies and ran around the whole level like a fucking benny hill episode.
>>335673084
You have to utilize backdash a lot. I struggled at first but as I continued I learned how to better deal with them. Utilize parry when one charges ahead of the pack, and maybe open him up a bit then get off him cause the others will hit you. Utilize the ki burst to restore ki quickly so you dont get stuck. Basically just keep moving and utilize parries, if you have a spear that works well too for taking on groups. Just pick them off with what I said, and take your time don't over commit to a single opponent even if their health is low. Also try not to turn your back on the others since you take more damage.
>>335672939
Only a few weapons have cool little stories for their descriptions the rest have generic descriptions like "this is a hammer made of bronze" or "this is a katana made in X village"
>>335673148
I should take these in movie mode or whatever it's called.
>>335673230
You have to run pretty far, try using cliffs and buildings to break line of sight; if all else fails, just high stance heavy swing lesser enemies that outrun the veterans.
>>335673279
Horizontal swipes from axes/hammers also work well for crowd control.
How the fuck do you repair?
>>335673279
Ki burst?
>>335673348
good to know. I didn't use a hammer once I pretty much only used katana and then spear just to test it.
>>335663545
The ones that glow yellow are developer ones, they're absolutely worth killing for their stuff.
>>335673380
Your stamina has a light blue line that restores faster than the red one; if you hold the stance button, it instantly restores your stamina up to the blue.
>>335673365
Whetstones. They're dropped by enemies.
>>335673380
you should see it on your ki meter, and also there are little blue lights that begin to gather when you end a combo. I'm not 100% on it, I just pressed R1 whenever they sort of gathered on me and it would restore ki. Tbh I don't even understand the system entirely, but I just went with what the game told me and it seemed to work.
>>335671668
Dark Souls difficulty has always been overrated.
>>335673445
You can just tap the stance button while it's blue. However whatever part is blue is what will be restored.
>>335673365
Use whetstone for weps, glue for worn armor
>>335673337
Is it easier to see shit in movie mode? Because I'm playing in action mode and everything is fucking dark as shit.
>>335673528
I wouldn't know, I saw most things clearly.
>>335668893
Holy fuck that takes a long time
>>335673528
Just... make the gamma higher.
>>335673187
yeah
>>335670779
Dude just chill out its a fucking video game.
Anyway if you go to the beach just before the boss and follow it through the cave, kill the oni there and in the cave is some nice purple weapons that will help you kill the boss.
>tfw I till can't beat that first real yoki in the fucking shed
>>335671668
difficulty of souls is so overrated it's pretty crazy. /v/ is full of shitters so they play it up, so does almost everyone else. The game's I always found are really fun, interesting worlds and lore. It's not the greatest series ever but it's fun with an absolutely god awful community. Another problem people are having with nioh most likely are adjusting from dark souls, especially since a lot of the people expect this game to just be a shitty souls clone when it isn't.
>>335673697
whats that
>>335673697
But the brightness is almost maxed already
>>335673784
Get out your TV remote, there should be an option for that too.
I pumped gamma when they started hiding ninjas in shadows and haven't had a problem since.
>>335666096
Grabs are perfect in this game though. They have enough startup for you to put your weapon down and get the fuck out. They do what souls games never had balls to do - force people away from holding L1 likr goddamn retards.
Shitty lockon system is my only gripe with this game so far.
>>335672497
>levelling stamina dosn't level stamina
than, what the fuck dose it improve?
>>335673868
Equip load.
Important if you want to keep under 30% but wear more than Scout Armour
I heard from another site that the combat feels floaty and not tight, which doesn't seem to be the case. Has someone done an input lag test? This seems like the perfect game where tight controls are needed.
Can you sell shit? My inventory is full of junk.
>>335673704
I see, well circle strafe. Admittedly a one eye is easier than an oni.
>>335673919
>30%
Enjoy getting combo'd to death. 100% or bust
>>335673930
Yeah, at the shrines.
>>335673986
>not 60%
Are you bad or something? Know how to dodge and you can survive two-three hits from Nue.
>>335673131
This. It is shit
>>335673919
huh. i thought strength did that.
its fine as long as you dont pass 70%
Souls have always been hard ONLY for those who were willing to make them hard for themselves and abandon magic, phantoms, cheese tactics etc.
In Ni-oh you are forced to get good or eat shit. It's only natural that modern "souls" community that consists of PC memers and people who got into it because PS4 had no other games except for BB are rejecting it.
>>335674041
Strength does it as well but in a smaller amount. If you look at each stat by putting a point in you'll see that body, heart, stamina, strength, and skill all kind of overlap and benefit each other.
>>335674032
>being a pussy
Take the hits head on you fucking sissy
>>335666193
> P-please buy our shitty soulsclone with bioware inspired animations
No, it looks objectively like shit and runs lije shit.
> P-PCucks have n-no taste.
Amazing
>>335673986
>Enjoy getting combo'd to death.
Seriously doesn't happen.
Outside Nue. Fuck that dog. Even then it's not the combo, it was the lightning strikes that just one-shot my ass until I got two lightning charms.
>>335673962
all i nice and good until he manages to grab me, slam me on the floor and punch me in the face, which one shot kills me.
>>335673148
The unusual set is probably my favourite. I'll most likely be using that for most of the game.
Fuck shoes. Who needs them?
>>335672816
the one with the dubble sword?
i activated my guardian and beat the shit out of him with my hammer you got from the first boss.
The viral marketing is real, holy fuck.
That being said I enjoy the game, I just hate how sleazy and blatant the shilling is.Don't even try to deny the shilling, that just leaves an even worse taste in my mouth and I won't buy the game. Honesty is the best policy.
>>335674179
>Not having Raiken so you can shit on Yokai and laugh at Nue.
Get it together.
>>335674097
>Souls is only hard if you play it properly
>>335674204
Kek mr super slueth over here
>>335674204
It's a six hour demo, man, there's a shitload to talk about.
>>335674180
Then upgrade your body or just don't get grabbed.
>>335674184
What's the description on your spear?
>>335664787
>When do enemies not one shot you? I'm wearing full armor and I'm still dying in one to two hits.
Did you read what you wrote before posting?
>>335674204
This. Every thread on /v/ talking about a new game is shilling. Nobody here is dumb enough to actually talk about games they're excited about.
>>335674282
>>335674265
>>335674264
That's it, I'm not buying it. Great fucking job at failing at your job.
>>335674204
Then don't buy it faggot.
Let us talk about VIDEO GAMES.
>>335667508
I can tell you that you are blind because the spear parry is 100% an initially available to learn skill.
>>335673142
Ki is stamina. Pull dudes carefully. Running away is fine. Take it slow.
If you don't like it don't play it, no one gives a shit.
>>335674325
So you planned on not buying it from the beginning and just wanted attention? Shoulda just been honest :^)
>>335673708
hhahaha, you mean the purple sudoku weapon.
you're a fucking moron. have you even played the game?
>>335674097
>souls
>near naked, run in aggressively
>can still near tank if you pump VIT
>ni oh
>do what you like, anything short of 2000 health and 100% armour and you ain't tanking shit
Eh. Souls games aren't difficult. And that's fine. I don't really enjoy difficult games. Even "difficult games" like Bayonetta or DMC are just perceived as such because their tutorials suck.
But then Ni Oh might be in the same boat.
>>335674325
Just fuck off. Your empty rebellion isn't impressing anyone.
>>335674325
>>335674348
>>335674398
>>335674406
>>335674472
Oh no guys! The shills have turned into "Bully the person who wasn't retarded enough to fall for the obvious disingenuous and blatantly promoting the game because they get paid posts!" mode! Now you alienate him so that you can look like he's the minority and therefore uncool and nobody should be like him!
How much do you get paid to be a professional bully?
>>335674282
the shill is strong. you can easily telll whos workin with team ninja
>>335674518
I wish I could get as many (You)s as you shitposter-kun.
How exactly do you summon people? I need help with the boat boss
>>335674518
look, another shill
>>335674560
Summoning people makes the game harder.
>>335674484
Nifty. I hope there's more weapon variety should it be released.
>>335674518
>professional
That would imply they're doing a good job.
>>335662191
>uk is full of Muslims
Nice memes
Reminder to ask for hair and beard options in the feedback survey.
>>335674518
If you don't want to play the demo, fuck off guy. lol
Why are you in this thread even?I wish I could get paid for this shit.
>>335667170
>Really wish there were more than three item slots since one is always gonna be elixir
I only bothered equipping elixirs for the boss fights. The shuriken and Japanese caltrops were much more useful and the buff talisman was insanely helpful for the early oni.
>>335674560
save your cups bro. it gets more bullshitty after that boat boss
just use ki recovery items and block
Gomenasai, my name is Ken-Sama.
I’m a 27 year old American Otaku (Anime fan for you gaijins). I draw Anime and Manga on my tablet, and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior Japanese games. (Disgaea, Final Fantasy, Persona series)
I train with my Katana every day, this superior weapon can cut clean through steel because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my sword license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.
I speak Japanese fluently, both Kanji and the Osaka dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Japanese history and their bushido code, which I follow 100%
When I get my Japanese visa, I am moving to Tokyo to attend a prestigious High School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an animator for Studio Ghibli or a game designer!
I own several kimonos, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Japan, so I can fit in easier. I bow to my elders and seniors and speak Japanese as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.
Wish me luck in Japan!
>>335674558
Genuine question.
What normal poster here would do any of the following:
>Ask to "Remember to fill the survey when you're done."
>Unironically uses asterisks to convey emotion.
>Compares and makes POPULAR GAME look worse in comparison
>Posts webm's that do nothing but make the game look good.
>Proceed to post things like "I suck at this game discuss it pls" without going into any detail
Do you know who would?A shill who was paid to advertise the game and has likely never played it.or someone who does it FOR FREE like this faggot >>335674643
Shills can easily post as different IP's too, so that doesn't count either.
>>335674426
Yeah there was a purple spear in there and the oni dropped a very nice sword not hazikiris sword.
>>335674097
Nah, this game is just shit. Dying in one or two hits to every single enemy even with armor on is not difficult, it's just bad game design. The game has the mentality of Ninja Gaiden without the speed and fluidity to match (can't even jump), the structure of Dark Souls where enemies respawn with every death or every time you pray at a shrine, the random loot system of Diablo, and weapon/armor durability. It's a mix of mechanics that does not work and it forces you to grind, cheese, avoid enemies, etc. The combat isn't difficult, it's just thrown in with a bunch of ideas that make it impossible to really progress. And fighting groups of enemies is not doable because of the camera, the movesets, and how dodging rapes your stamina.
>>335674472
>bayonetta
>devil may cry
>difficult
>>335666136
>LOOK AT US, WE'RE WAY MORE DIFFICULT THAN DARK SOULS! BUY OUR GAME AND PRETEND TO BE SCARED/ANGRY ON YOUTUBE AND TWITCH SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY MARKETERS!
I'm sure many of your criticisms are spot on but this is just retarded.
>>335674705
>or someone who does it FOR FREE like this faggot >>335674643(You)
*ding ding ding ding*
We have a winner.
The reason to fill surveys is for the devs to make games more to OUR liking. Is this a difficult concept for you, retard?
>>335668893
Fucking hard when the nigger takes those big steps straight for you to do his big punch
>>335674776
the drops are random dude
I don't know if I like the diablo-esque loot system.
I'm afraid it will lead to an awful amount of grinding needed to get the correct items/gear to beat some areas/bosses in the final game.
>pleasantly surprised by the demo
>can't state that on /v/ because then I will be a shill somehow
>>335674919
You could when the demo wasn't release in the US.
>>335674919
let me guess, you beat the demo without dying
>>335674814
>The reason to fill surveys is for the devs to make games more to OUR liking. Is this a difficult concept for you, retard?
Team Ninja is filled with arrogant egotists that could rival Kanye West in pretentiousness. Not to mention publishers will forfeit direction and niche values for money., Only a shill would actually try to get anyone to believe that the survey does anything or is worth filling out.
There's literally no reason to counter-argue you're a shill. Everyone's accepted it, it's easy to spot given shills aren't as deeply embedded into the community as the average user, and it just makes the game look bad. Not to mention youtube advertisements, actual posters, and the like will shill for you and be genuine about it.
Downloading the beta now. Tips? Basic gameplay mechanics?
>>335674915
The fact that the levels have predetermined rewards might help to mitigate future grinding if what they offer is top of the line.
>>335674915
the inventory management will be a disaster. if they removed the repair system, it would not bother me.
>>335674919
This is the first one to have gone pear-shaped, we've about 4 or 5 Nioh threads that've hit the 500+ reply mark the past few days that've actually beensurprisingly civil.
Practically no shilling accusations or platform war faggots shitting up the place, just discussion about the game and its mechanics.
>>335674472
nioh at this point in alpha, isn't in the same boat.
the game has bullshit written all over it
>>335674919
>>335675042
Here's the difference between a shill and someone who likes the demo.
Shill:
>This game is great and amazing it's so fun play it I can't explain why it's good it just is look at these webm's.
Real user:
>This game is great, I like that it does this and this (with reasons) but this and this could be done better. These parts were fun, but these parts weren't fun.
etc etc
This is so easy to differentiate that if you can't do it, then you are likely either autistic, or a shill yourself.
>>335674991
Use R1 to regain stamina after it reaches the full point in your stamina bar
Don't mash dodge
Blocking is better than you think
>>335675098
Fuck off, you dirty PCuck.
>>335675098
Also, anyone who thinks
>Uninterrupted praise = civil discussion
Is a complete retard.
>>335670403
>of a fucking japshit dev
>I'll stick with what I know: Dark Souls
Retard.
>>335674989
>Only a shill would actually try to get anyone to believe that the survey does anything or is worth filling out.
How the fuck should I know whether Team Ninja will actually read the submitted feedback or not? It's not like I lose anything for filling it.
>it just makes the game look bad
I really don't give a shit whether you like or dislike the game, anon.
Nothing personnel.
>>335675098
so to be a "real user" you have to verbally dislike some part of a game you enjoy?
are you fucking retarded?
>>335674795
>load up game
>spend time fighting dead ghosts to get the hang of everything
>move on and die and fail and the two guys at the shed
>die many times but learn the value of block, dash, sneak and lock on switch
>move on
>a whole town of gank crews ready to fuck me up at a moments notice
>interesting there's paths that givr you vantage points
>move around and draw the attention of one enemy at once
>mostly die when its more than 1v1
>get to a point where I can clear the village easily but only by routine
>go up into the forest
>sprint as fast as I can hoping tk find a shrine and i do
>now there's a new respawn point
>climb the cliff and see I can sneak behind the mansion
>also hear one of the dead souls talking about his bow
>get the bow, lessen mobs with headshots and block, dash, patiently kill the rest
>"oh this is how it all works"
You just gotta learn bro, make the game work for you. Doesn't matter if le epic anons here say they can 1v5 whole mobs they're either better than you or lying. Then if you're still not having fun just play a different game not all games are for everyone.
>>335675098
the diff is
>shill
>i beat the demo without dying lmao git gud
>actual player
>this game is shit and unfair in the dumbest way
then you have shills defending the alpha build
>>335675098
Actually, I do have a few gripes with the game (Mainly stemming from the crappy HUD design and the repair and degradation mechanics), I was just pointing out that the last few Nioh threads have actually all actually been pretty fine. NeoFAG and /r/pcmasterrace crossposters have both stayed out of them, and you're honestly the first person I've seen to go bananas over supposed shilling of the game.
>>335675203
>It's not like I lose anything for filling it.
Time.
>I really don't give a shit whether you like or dislike the game.
Even if you aren't a shill, there's so many good reasons for why you might want certain people to like or dislike certain games. If they are educated and know their shit about the game, or have similar opinions as you, then it'd be beneficial for them to be an additional fan, as the more fans they have, the more a publisher is incentivized to give them work.
So either you're falseflagging as a shill, OR, you're not actually a fan of Ni-oh and are trolling.
>>335674891
Then just go and kill enemys, collect everything they drop indiscriminately and then offer them all to shrines for whetstones and armour repair.
>>335675098
>bawwwww, he posted webms!! he must be a shill
>>335674997
yeah bit imagine an area similar to blighttown, with a lot of poison or whatever, and you need t grind poison resistance gear to be ble toe ven walk around, or like the second boss in the demo, if you have a lot of lightning resistance equipment it's far easier.
>>335675205
Yes. /v/ is a discussion imageboard. If a game was so enjoyable that it didn't have flaws, then you'd be playing it instead of talking about it here.
>>335675224
Blame the OP and the following first 40 posts for being so formulaic and pandering.
Please explain the stamina mechanics
>>335674991
Don't even bother trying to fight the guys with axes until you have armor and a better weapon, they will one shot you every time. If you try to block, one hit from them will completely drain your stamina and stagger you. Honestly, good luck, this game is the definition of cheap bullshit "difficulty" and isn't really worth the effort of trying to figure out.
>>335674989
>Team Ninja is filled with arrogant egotists that could rival Kanye West in pretentiousness.
So, basically /v/?
>>335675304
This post does nothing but makes either the shill or the players of Ni-oh look childish, which in turn turns off the players similar to how many won't play undertale because of the fanbase.
Good job.
>>335675364
Yeah, sure, but that doesn't change the point that the survey will do nothing and if you think otherwise you're either ignorant, autistic, or a shill.
>>335675269
>are trolling.
This one should be a given.
Do you actually take anything you read in /v/ seriously?
>The game follows the story of William, loosely based upon William Adams, a blond-haired Samurai and son of a Japanese lord and a Western woman
Well yeah I can totally see his japanese blood
And I can totally see a blond chick going for jap dick also.
>>335674991
>>335675362
Not true axe guys are easy.
Switch to high stance, approach axe men, wait for his swing and just press X, no direction. When he misses hit Triangle and then repeat.
This shit is so satisfying once you understand the flow of combat. I went from chucking firebombs at onis to cutting them into pieces.
Its basically like Dark Souls, only instead of crafting a cool and unique world they poured all their time into the combat.
>>335675294
>go farm dudes its no problem :^)
you're missing the fucking point. the game should not have this shit
>Try to play some co-op in the second stage
>Every host I get runs around like an idiot without a plan
>First one hadn't opened the door to the second shrine and went to the boss instead, died
>Second one went and triggered every oni he could find instead of opening the shortcut to the start, died
>Third one died
>Fourth one died
>Fifth one died
This game is going to get blasted, isn't it?
>>335675373
I don't mind looking childish or shitpost if it means there will be less people like you in these threads.
>>335675462
Depends on the thread. Super niche indie games often have good threads.
>>335675314
Well to be fair, you can use Raiken for Nue incase you eat a bolt before you figure out the pattern but yeah poison might be weird to handle. Unless they got an elixir or some sort of talisman you can slap on. I don't think gear would help that much considering they had defense vs poison and paralysis as their own stats.
>>335675347
It's like active reloading from Gears only the further along it is before you focus the better. If you do it right, you can cleanse an area of underworld impurities which hamper your stamina regen.
dasbabies
>>335675545
Giving me (You)'s only keeps me in the thread. This just further proves you're a shill as you don't understand what satisfies the average user.
>>335675486
>Geralt of Okinawa.jpg
>>335675362
The axe guys are easy, either parry their big swings or step back and let them tire themselves out. That or you can just pay attention to whether they're swinging if you're attacking and dodge out if they are, which is easier in low stance.
>>335675532
I don't know if grinding is necessarily bad on its own. If the actual process of grinding is made fun then grinding shouldn't be an issue.
I spent a lot of time grinding to level up for the boss and enjoyed all of it so I suppose of you don't like the grind it's probs just not a game for you.
>>335675486
Isn't that...! It is! He's Geraldo Rivera, right?
>>335675598
I could argue this is pretty satisfying aswell.
You're the one crusading against shills and image board toxicity.
>>335668774
Aye fellow Herald me too. I even got the Pike and Ghru Rot Spear and I haven't dropped my starting spear.
However the damage is still poor and its outclassed by dork swords and estocs. Feels underdog man.
On topic I can't get to PSN somehow. Guess I'll just lurk /v/ and/a/.
All this talk about cups man I ain't got no cups. Fuck this boat oni.
>>335675541
whats the rules for summonin? how do you get summoned?
is there a limit on summoning?
>>335669148
>>shit breaks halfway through a single run of an area, making you farm for repair items which is boring dull pointless and dumb
Blatantly untrue, you're only going to be breaking shit going through a single area if you keep dying and needing to redo it.
>>stances are just a wasted mechanic when you can stun lock any basic enemy with any stance and the bosses are quick enough to make doing anything but running in for a single quick swipe and then running away a totally improbable strategy, thus making all the stances in that case functionally identical
Except you can't stun lock youkai, they only get stunned when their ki runs out and they regenerate it after a while. It's a great system that makes them stand out from the human enemies. Nue is easily hit for several attacks in high stances from the side, and you can recharge your ki with bursts to then roll out of his attacks and hit him repeatedly.
>>Has a super move that charges over a long period of time but lasts like three seconds once you actually use it, subsequently making it a total waste to use on basic enemies that you can easily kill without it
You use it on strong enemies. What's hard to understand about this?
>>Except you also drop it when you die, so it's not even like you could continue to charge it between deaths while you kill enemies on your way back to the boss you just died to, again, making it pointless
You can call it back at the shrine in exchange for losing your lost souls.
>>Game wants you to buy your way into skill trees governing specific types of weapons, yet also expects you to be switching weapon types all the time anyway since that favorite weapon of yours will break in two fucking minutes anyway
Or you can just repair it like someone who isn't retarded.
So high stance spear is easy mode right?
Super reach, stunlock combos, and lets you pump body for both damage and survivability.
>>335675514
Can I get a basic run down of the stance system?
>>335672959
killing another players ghosts?
>>335675753
You can get cups from killing revenants, and there'll be no shortage of those around.
>enemies respawn every 2-3 minutes
Why?
>>335669148
>>Dodging even on low stance feels totally ineffectual unless you dodge backwards completely away from any attack- at no point do you feel the confidence to dodge through an attack and continue fighting both because the actual move is so finnicky on if you're going to take damage, and more important because any attack turns into a combo and takes out 2/3 of your healthbar, making you not want to experiment at all
Holy fuck, just git gud. Dodging should be your main form of defence, blocking is only worth using to buy time while preparing to parry.
>>your experimenting is further punished by the health item grinding, repair item grinding, and the bizarre act of dropping your super move when you die
Except they all drop like hotcakes and you can only hold 10 at a time as a result.
>>the game fully expects you to use cheap, unfun, enemy-pulling tactics to fight them 1-on-1 because fighting multiple enemies is so ridiculously imbalanced; your options are either to already have a crowd control weapon equipped beforehand, or sprint until they leash
Use a spear, retard. Why the fuck would you not already have a spear equipped?
>>335675815
Why are you dieing? That's weird if they do.
>>335675797
High=damage
Medium=guard/aoe/cc depending on the weapon
Low=agile/evasion
>>335674518
nigga i wish i got paid to make shitposters embarass themselves
>>335675815
They respawn only if you pray at the shrine.
>>335675541
Hopefully and rightfully so. I highly doubt it will sell, dying a thousand times to the first group of enemies in the beach area leaves a bad impression and makes the level of bullshit the devs mistook for difficulty very apparent. There's little sense of reward in figuring it out anyway.
>>335675815
They only respawn if you die or you rest at a shrine, though.
Good God, the people bitching in the past couple of threads about supposed shit in this game also undoubtedly chimp out about DSP.
>>335675872
Thanks family
>>335675774
Beat a stage and then from stage select press square to get put into matchmaking. I have yet to clear a stage but if you or the host die you get a 0.5x multiplier on your rewards, and the rewards screen lists shortcuts and shrines so it must take those into account when the host gets them.
>>335675815
what?
>>335675904
>dying a thousand times to the first group of enemies in the beach area
Have you considered that you may be bad at video games?
Dawn to my last Ochoco, have done more than 30 tries on Nue.
I think this might be the end of the demo for me.
Cannot go back to the menu and put myself to get summoned either.I am a scrub.
>>335669489
They did a great job with the localisation, it perfectly captures the Japanese settings and text and provides basic explanations for things westerners may not be familiar with, without being too liberal. My only complaint is that it uses kunrei-shiki instead of hepburn.
>>335675797
Basically, each weapon has three stances when drawn, each with their own different moveset and skills they can get. High stance gives you stronger and slower attacks that stagger people easier and make you harder to stagger. Mid stance is more balanced and better suited for defence, usually learning parries and things like that. Low stance is Ninja Gaiden mode, you can both attack and dodge really quickly with long combos but each hit does less damage. Low stance also lets you Ki Pulse on dodges as well, so you can keep moving for longer and get back in easier.
>>335675993
If you think this requires skill, then I've got some bad news for you.
>>335676049
Bruh just slap on Raiken and solo him. He's actually spongier co-oped
the brits are waking up, explains the shitposting
>>335676071
>They did a great job with the localisation
Except for the whole ki=stamina stamina=/= stamina.
If you're too lazyor suck too much, here's some gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pqh_3uIWFA&index=1&list=PLkNdu0OhiqopKjgsrJWPyxuR3UjUIbNRD
I've played every Souls game except DS3 and this in comparison is even more unforgiving, especially if you're not ki pulsing constantly and have a very sharp eye on your stamina. Weapons all feel great, and mastering the katana is really hard imho. I still haven't got the hang of it so I'm just trying to cheese everything with the axe.
>Tfw watching /v/ shit itself whenever a new game comes out
>It's an exclusive
you fucks burn yourselves to the ground at every opportunity, don't you?
>>335676119
>Souls called it stamina so that means every game with a similar mechanic should call it stamina too
Fuck off, retard.
>>335676049
Try and get around to his sides when he breathes lightning. When he's summoning lightning from the sky (Which comes in bolts of either 3 or 4), ignore him and just sprint around the area. Most of his physical attacks easily dodgeable or blockable. .
>>335675541
Sometimes hosts are good, other times they are god awful and won't pay attention to you even if you are whistling and taunting at them to come to the fucking gate to a shrine.
When you get a good one, it feels great to go through the whole level though.
>>335676094
If you died one thousand times to the first encounter, yes you're fucking shit at games anon. Most people would have stopped playing around the tenth death.
>>335671093
I had a good chuckle at that. Cheeky AI cunts.
>people getting jimmies rustled for liking games and posting webms
Damn. I need to start saving and posting webms more.
>>335676119
But Ki is your fighting spirit, and you need stamina to be able to move and fight in heavy armour, it still makes perfect sense. You're just not used to it is all.
>>335676094
You think this game is based on probability, anon?
>game is bullshit
>no its not i beat it without dying ::^)
sums up every thread
>>335676156
>Souls called it stamina
More like every game ever called it stamina.
While ki is the stats for special abilities.
>>335676104
Raiken?
>>335675872
>>335675887
>>335675930
>>335675957
Am I the only one?
I fucking kill the two guys at the scarecrow and then when I go to attack some big guy, I run back to the scarecrow and they've respawned.
And I did not pray at the shrine.
That's not the only occasion, it's happened other times.
HOW AM I THE ONLY ONE?
THEY FUCKING RESPAWN I SWEAR!
>>335671557
Holy fuck that movie mode gameplay is horrible, I can't imagine playing it like that. Sure am glad I went with action mode from the start.
>>335676156
>Souls invented stamina
Spotted the real retard
>>335676303
>alpha demo
>>335676156
Do you not know what the word stamina means?
>>335676303
Different guys perhaps? There are enemy patrols. Where is this scarecrow?
>>335676294
Guardian spirit.
>>335676303
Have not tried that, but if you found a bug you could report that of course.
>>335666136
You just have to get used to that it's not Dark Souls and not play it like it is. Stamina is even more important and regaining it with the ki pulse is crucial. Also you can't just "lol evade, spam attack to win" like in the Souls games. Plus buying and actually using the skills is important too. I died like a bitch in the first area over and over until I got my head around that, now it's going relatively smoothly, although I'm still dying more than if this actually was a Souls game.
>>335676385
Do you know that video games aren't like real life?
>>335672797
You don't have to go through the fire, I got to the boat without touching any of it. From the shrine look up the path you came down to get there, you can drop off onto a ledge and then onto the roof of the house. Then you can drop down behind the house and continue on that way through the village. You can avoid all of the demon enemies, there's one on a roof right in your way but just drop down to the ground and climb back up the ladder once it drops to follow you. It can't climb back up there to chase you. It's all pretty straight forward from there, no real way to get lost.
>>335676385
You know that VIDEO GAMES actually have an artistic freedom to use words in any way they wish?
game goes
>bullshit
>bareable
>ultra bulllshit
am i right?
>>335676434
>>335676469
Thats like calling a sword in Dark souls or another RPG a bazooka because "artistic freedom"
I'm gonna try out a different build.
Don't use the axe. Second part of second level will not like you.
>sup fuckboy heard you can't cancel out of attacks unless you're in the useless low stance
>>335676542
>he doesn't want to wield the BAZOOKA
Not helping your argument here, champ.
>>335676518
Well yeah, fuck the dual-wielding yokai and ninjas.
>>335676395
Oh... will try maybe this evening, I'm kind of tired now.
>>335672746
>. Is it because you all block all the time?
Yes. Most of your weapon degradation will come from blocking. If you spend your time rolling instead of blocking your shit won't degrade anywhere near as fast.
This just makes me wish Way of the Samurai had gore because I just want to dismember people with a katana instead of putting up with all the questionable design choices and artificial difficulty dragging this mess down.
>>335676542
Almost like calling a landmine Claymore.
Any tips for elixer farming before the second level?
>>335676619
You can do it bro. Though you'll need ten spirit for the lightning buff Raiken gives. Don't be afraid to go into low stance either if you wanna get into Nue's face. Also bust out that high stance if you get a chance to tickle his tummy since he'll get stunlocked after being tickled.
>>335676615
the ninjas are the worst part
holy fuck they never give
>>335676709
>artificial difficulty
In the early 90's this game would have been called easy.
>>335676615
>dual wielding yokai
They're not that aggressive, and they don't have much health.
Ninjas don't do much damage either and they're prone to the ol' "bait them out and bang em one at a time".
Really it's just Nui's bullshit lightning attack that one-shot you unless you stacked lightning defense that annoyed me.
>>335676709
Way of the Samurai could have also used actual crowd control, actual levels, and less grind.
I finally beat the fucking boat boss and got the mark of a conquer. It felt so tantalizing with him constantly pushing my shit in. Best game ever to be honest.
>>335676738
Get a healer's blessing from the kodama. Helps increase their drop rate.
>>335676776
All you need to do for that attack is sprint around. I'll admit that it got me a few times, but once I realized, it was unbelievably easy to avoid that attack.
>>335676846
But that's in the second level, right?
>>335676776
the prob with the ninja is hes relentless. if you aren't mid stance or have the skill to parry , its absolute bullshit dude
fuck off shill
Not being able to go back to the mission selection screen is pure bullshit though
>>335676303
The only thing that ever happened to me is that I prayed at a shrine, so everyone should respawn. I'm at the village, so I go a couple of steps and to the left behind the house there should be one of those zombie miner fuckers. He's not there though, so I go on to where the demon spawned the first time. Second miner zombie attacks me. I go a couple of steps back and suddenly the first miner zombie is there. He's not a patrolling mob, so that must have been a legitimate bug, although it was only one time.
>>335673131
>>stamina drain punished too hard
If you don't mash buttons like a retard then you don't get worn out when your stamina hits zero. With ki bursts you should also almost never be hitting zero in the first place.
>enemies will follow you forever
Not true, they just follow you further than Souls enemies do.
>also they are patrolling area so they can attack you from behind when you fighting another foes
So be aware of your surroundings, dumbass.
>block usually take nothing, incouraging standing in block and waiting enemy spend his stamina hitting air
Blocking degrades your weapons with each hit, which is something you don't have to worry about if you dodge instead.
>fighting more than one enemy is too hard so you forced to cheese and kite
Use a fucking spear.
>too many useless loot making you inventory garbage can but must carry fuckton of weapons cuz they break
Or you just repair them with the items that drop all over the place.
Why does /v/ bitch and whine about games getting too casual and then bitch and whine when a game actually demands them learn its mechanics?
>>335676906
You can with a Himorogi branch, but I see what you are saying.
>>335675217
I must have missed that shrine. The only ones I have are the one at the very beginning and the one in the burning village.
I really like parries in this game, feels so rewarding when you mange to land one.
How do I equip the bow?
>>335676940
yeah just an option "quit mission" or something like that, even if you lose all the progress if you haven't killed the boss.
>>335676852
Until he initializes it while you're nabbing an opportune hit with the axe and the recovery time for the mid stance hit+mad dash is more than the lightning attack's startup.
It sucked. And then when I DID give in, give up my shirtless look, and stacked lightning defense, he doesn't hit me with the damn attack once. Fucking hell.
>>335676905
>fuck off shill
Nigger I just stated what I thought was bullshit.
Whatever, fuck you, you don't deserve a response.
>first time fighting nue
>didn't know it was a boss thing
>thought it was a regular yokai thing
>get it to 50%
>get rekt
>once more unto the breach
>pop my super
>don't even know why
>nue had no stamina for some reason
>proceed to stunlock until death
>victory like a motherfucker
It will never not be satisfying to get revenge for all the years of being stunlocked to shit in whatever game i've played. Fuck you nue, fuck you boatface, fuck the both of you to hell. Get stunlocked fags
>>335672797
>Try and fight the oni boss on the boat like a Dark Souls boss
>Getting fucking killed over and over
>Get pissed off and fight the boss like a Ninja Gaiden boss
>Fucking wipe the floor with the faggot
>Literally drops his stamina to 0
>Get him into a corner and stab him in the ass over and over to he died
Holy shit the bosses in this are not like Dark Souls bosses where its hit 1 or 2 times and run off like a faggot.
You have to get right up in the oni bosses shit and fucking stab his shit to death and evade at the last second, ki pulse and stab him in the ass harder.
>>335676903
Nah, there's about 9 Kodama in the Isle. One for each blessing and a second one for most of them as well. Though I do believe for the third tier you do need the second level.
>>335676905
But anon, I high stanced them to death with the axe's ender. Are you saying your bad with ninja or that you couldn't see them?
Their biggest fuck you is how there's never really just one around. There's always two or three.
>>335676964
I was impressed with the barehanded parry.
I wonder if you can do this to the ninja onis.
>>335676997
Uhhhhh, equip it like any other weapon from the equip menu. There's a slot for ranged weapons.
>>335676916
Nah that exact thing happened to me and when I looked there's actually a corner that goes into a long thin pathway behind where he normally is, and I sometimes see him walking out from there.
>>335677037
>nue had no stamina for some reason
Someone said that if you hit his face while he's dishing out lightning he instantly drops to 0 Ki, that might have been it.
Went into this with no expectations and was completely blew away by its difficulty and setting. Reminds me of when I first played Demon Souls. Getting completely destroyed by the first few enemies, the slow trudge through the first level because you honestly don't know what around the corner, and the absolute joy of finding the first shortcut. I really don't get that from the Soul series anyway. I also liked how they required you to hold O to get items, prevents you from running past all the enemies to grab everything like in Souls.
>>335676997
In the equipment menu, there's a slot for missile weapons.
Who is harder.
The cat pikachu one or the guy on the titanic?
>>335677035
Oh, yeah. Axes. I forgot about them. I suppose spears are the most powerful weapon class so far, if you know what you're doing.
>>335677083
Holy fuck, that's awesome.
>>335677114
pikachu
>>335677095
I don't know about that, but he'll do a dive attack and fuck it up exposing his tummy. If you can smack the tummy during the time it's exposed he'll lose his Ki.
>>335675541
I put one of the summon cups at the shrine to try to get someone for the boss and nobody ever showed up. I waited for about 45 minutes. How do you even get summoned yourself? I've seen no way to do it, the only option in my shrine for multiplayer is to offer a cup to summon another player.
>>335677083
Im impressed that someone actually tried to do it naked , and even more impressed theres a barehand parry animation. Based fucking tecmo, that's awesome
>>335677114
Nue's a piece of cake when you figure out you can sprint circles around the arena to dodge his only real damaging attack.
>>335677095
dishing out as in firing the homing bolts, opening his mouth for the wide attack or what?
i just smashed his face in. from 60-ish % to zero
also, raikiri is best weapon
>>335677123
I'm running a new build.
>>335677114
Lightning pupper by a landslide.
>>335677148
Worried it might fuck up PvP, there's no real counter for it apart from "Be a Oni lmao".
>>335677148
there was a guy yesterday on the threads showing how to do it to spears and axes too, the webm is not mine.
Was /v/ always this bad at vidya? I've played both Onimusha and Souls games and I had no trouble beating the demo and I consider myself an average gamer.
I mean, sure, I died a few times, but where the hell does the whole "Artificial difficulty" and "frustantingly impossible" shit come from?
>>335676964
You know both sword parries have a followup attack you can do by hitting attack right after you parry someone, right?
>>335676997
Equip it from the menu, press R2 to fire, hold L2 to aim and then press R3 to zoom in. Headshots murder people.
>>335677198
I'm asking myself how they want to balance out PVP anyway, what with all the difference there are bound to be in equipment and learned skills etc.
>>335677257
I hope they just equalize "invader" stats.
>>335677064
>>335677035
dude, ninjas are morta kombat tier
quit makin shit up
i'm tired of you shills saying how easy you have it. yah i get it you beat the demo. how about you put your big boy pants on ad beat whats presented
>>335677198
can't see that you can counter a counter. so if you use spear and use the guard+square you'll immediately flip them so you get to their back.
>>335677224
my guess is that this is just the new age of gaming. things are so easy now, so when something moderately difficult comes along, everyone's ass get sore from the tender rectum loving.
It's just bad. Reminds me of Razor's Edge.
From Software got the combat down since Demon's, why can't other companies replicate it?
>>335677165
Gotta beat the level to be able to be summoned, I'm guessing most people are keen to move on when they finally win.
>>335677239
Didn't know that at all haha, just straight up press square for the follow up attack in any stance?
>>335671557
thanks fuck for the action mode
>>335677312
Okay.
Switch to low stance, dodge out of the way of a telegraphed attack, punish.
All enemies have armour frames while attack but all humanoid enemies can be staggered when not attack (that includes Dwellers, the startups for their attacks just start long before they leap at you).
That's it. There's your tactic. Give it a try.
>>335677357
You like fromsoft combat because its easy, that's all. Nioh's combat play seamlessly too but it actually requires you to git gud.
>>335677084
Shit, I meant how do I bring it out, I'm having a full on DSP moment right now, it says its equipped but I don't know how to actually whip it out and use it.
I've pressed every button.
The lock on is iffy, it's like my character is only half-paying attention to the guy he is locked on.
Shit game.
How do you level up guardian spirits?
>>335677445
Press the touchscreen in the middle of the controller.
>>335677445
L2 to aim, R2 to shoot
If you press R2 at any time it'll shoot your bow without aiming so be mindful of that
>>335677114
Oni Balls by far. If you get to Nue's sides he can barely hit you with anything other than the spinning sweep, and you can roll right through that.
>>335677443
Nah man, Nioh is just shit.
>>335677445
Fuck never mind, I had to set the arrows to a shortcut then consume them. Ok
>>335677445
There's a "controls" screen, you know.L2 to aim, R2 to shoot, R2 without L2 to quick shoot. R3 to zoom.
>>335677393
Well you can only parry with katana in mid stance but yeah you just hit square right afterwards. It looks awesome, the square parry's attack does a ton of damage and the triangle parry's attack is quicker and makes them fall down slowly so I think it's the crowd option.
New thread
>>335677548
>>335677513
You don't.
>>335677537
>get to oni's ass
>he can't hit you with anything but the sweep you can roll through
Jesus fuck, can Team Ninja ever stop screwing up?
>>335677545
All that did was equip the arrows which you can also do from the menu. Anyway, headshots on enemies without helmets are usually an instant kill. Try to be in range that the reticule is red and not yellow though.
>>335677583
>Thread's still on page one
Talk about impatient.
Who else uses unarmed blade catching? Shits fun as fuck.
>>335677426
JUST GO TO LOW STANCE bro
>>335677426
HOLY SHIT
shill is fuckin strong whens the game being released?
>>335674693
that's some old pasta
>>335661857
I thought it would be more like Ninja Gaiden in that you don't have to upgrade to get all the moveset. A bit disappointed that they even have an upgrade system really.
But it's a fun game.
>hit Stone samurai
>89 damage
Fuck this
Fuck i was getting constantly matched at 40 and leveled to 41 now it takes several failed attempts.
>>335675602
lel
>All these people complaining about one shots and its too hard
>Literally only the start of the demo is like this
>By the second area you're cutting down cyclops demons and can even take multiple hits without dying easily.
Jesus fuck is /v/ seriously this casual?
>>335678857
The people bitching about this in the past few days are exactly the same kinds of scrubs who were moaning about DeS in 2009-10.
For me this game is impossibly hard. I know people will say git gud, but I just can't. I gave up
![NiOhDemo-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/znYV7C7.jpg "NiOhDemo-1[1]")
