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Does a videogame finally do Ken-Sama justice, /v/?

Remember to fill out the feedback survey when you've finished it, you Korean homosexuals.
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_uk
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First for it isn't Souls and git gud
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>>335677548
Third or so for crying about the difficulty.
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Blind gameplay without a faggot commentating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pqh_3uIWFA&index=1&list=PLkNdu0OhiqopKjgsrJWPyxuR3UjUIbNRD
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The lock on is shit, can't even begin playing like this.
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>>335677643
>Blind playthrough
Who would want this?
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Why is the main character white blonde blue eyes
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>>335677670
Then do the survey and comment on it, you memespouting shitlord.
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>>335677548
>http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_uk

Why do you keep posting the muslim version?
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>>335677670

The only gripe about it is that if you're locked on to an enemy and you kill it, it doesn't automatically jump to the next one.

>>335677695

Because he's a dirty gaijin.
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I won't be able to play it until more than likely thursday morning
Give me your impressions so i know what to expect
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>>335677695
Because he's a 27 year American otaku (Anime fan for you gaijins).
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>>335677695
Apparently its historically accurate as far as I've heard. One of the last true samurai was a foreigner. So the Last Samurai movie wasn't actually katana cultist pandering as I once believed. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.
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So what does the DLC actually give you for the main game? Also release date when, I'm hyped.
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>>335677695
Japan still isn't over the one time Hitler called them honorary aryans.
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>>335677729
It's fun. Playing with the different stances and getting new skills (and learning how best to use them) makes it replayable af.
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It's Razor's Edge all over again.

What a let down.
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>>335677695
Because he's based on this guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29
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>>335677764
He's Eurasian in the story, but he's a loose pastiche of William Adams, an explorer and Protestant missionary from England who went to Japan in the early 1600s and became the first ever white samurai. He remains something of a cult hero in Japan to this day, so there's quite a bit of fiction based on him.

>>335677771
No one knows yet. Probably just some special equipment or a unique Kodama or something.
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>>335677771
>So what does the DLC actually give you for the main game

An unbreakable lv3 katana.
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>>335677729
a lot of key mechanics isn't explained that well, control and system takes a bit of time to get used to.
if you play it like its dark souls you're gonna get rekked.
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I hope everyone is suggesting changeable hair in the survey
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>>335677764
William Adams was the first (western) samurai, not the last one.

But yes it's historically "correct", up to Adams not being a shipwrecked diplomat but an Oni hunter.
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try to find a more cheese attack in the game than the triangle attack for the axe overhead stance
you can't
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>>335677789
Hory shit I raughed
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>>335677729
Lock on is virtually useless, so half of the time you'll be trying to find a target rather than doing actual combat.

Wait until they fix it.
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>>335677725
Personally I'd like the lockon range to be wider, instead of only really being able swap between people in front. It'd make parrying when dealing with crowds easier and cooler since then you can drop one guy and stay looking where most of them usually are.
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>>335677850
Much more important than cosmetics is more item shortcuts.
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>>335677850
Yep, I asked for different hairstyles and facial hair.
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>>335677840
I would be furious as I laugh.
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ANYONE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE CUTE KODAMAS?
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>>335677695
He's based off of William Adams.
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>>335677859
>sweep and dash lower stance of the spear

literally an auto-win button
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Is evasion supposed to be a joke? Is it there just to troll you?

Shit game anyway, hope they fix it.
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>>335677926
Screw that, we need a webm of them sparring with sticks on the title screen.
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>>335677764

Just no. There were a couple of foreigners who were granted samurai status, as far back as the 1600s though. What do you define as "one of the last true samurai"? There's no such thing, as formally, the samurai class was abolished all at the same time. There were rebels who fought back in the Boshin war (what the Last Samurai is based upon) and there were foreign advisors on the rebels side too, but they were not "samurai".

If you're wider in your definition, there are still samurai existant today, what with direct descendants from former daimyo families, such as the Takeda, or direct descendants from widely known samurai such as Sakamoto Ryoma. Also heads of sword schools, etc. etc.

Also you could say that sumo wrestlers are the last true samurai, as they completely abandon their lives to train and fight all day and they are the last people still allowed to wear the chonmage, which samurai had to cut off when their class was abolished.

Fun fact, the 17th direct descendant of Oda Nobunaga, which even /v/ should know, is a retired figure skater.
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>>335678012
There's i-frames out the asshole, the only joke here is your sexual performance.
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HOW THE FUCK DO I AVOID THE SPIN BALLS ATTACK OF THE FIRST BOSS


FUCKING

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>335677912
>facial hair
This. I need to cover up that shovel face.
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Main characters look not based on the Shogun series.....

Wew lads.
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>>335678064
attack once then press R1 at the right time to regain enough stamina so you'll be able to just block his attacks. Thats what i did
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>>335678064
You can block the horizontal sweeps if you're facing them, which consume about 40 points stamina.
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Game seems like it'll be fun. Camera feels floaty and weapons lack meatiness, but conceptually it seems like it'll be a hot potatoe on release.
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>>335678064
Roll through them.
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>>335678042
Neat. I'm happy the bloodlines survived. There was just a time when I doubted the Hollywood adaptations and therefore Nioh too because it felt as if they distorted history. Glad to know its founded in truth, at least historically.

Looking forward to the game.
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Why would anyone play in movie mode?
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>>335678235
I'm assuming you don't know that Nioh has its origins in a half-finished Akira Kurosawa script?

Though sadly it doesn't seem to be based off that beyond the core anymore, sadly
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>>335678339
Because I'm not sensitive to framerate.
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So this is literally filthy gaijin teleports behind you in medieval Japan?
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>>335678380
Mighty whitey goes to the east to show em' how it's done.
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>>335678339
The framerate is stable enough on movie mode for me, and it looks fantastic


picture completely unrelated
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This was great. Lots of QoL-improvements they need to make for the final game though.

Stamina management in this game with the Ki-blast stuff is amazing.
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I fucking rage quitted at the first boss.

Good job Koei. You are the first in forever that made me do it.
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The anon of the other thread that couldn't defeat the Nue...

I did it!

Going low and punishing + Raikiri really did the trick, thank you for the advices you gave me guys.

Yes I'm playing on streaming mode from my PC.
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What's a safe level to stay at to ensure matchmaking? I was thinking 40 but it might be too high.
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>>335678510

Doesn't the delay fuck you over?
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>>335677871
>>335677725
>>335677670
i felt no issue with the lock on. just had to get use to that youd turn your back on the enemy and retain locked on and holding block made it so youd stay facing
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>>335678510
Congrats man, now go to bed.
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>>335678510
Now give me some tips for the first boss on the boat because i am getting ass-cancer.
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>Watching a walkthrough of the game in youtube
>Player dies constantly
>"The combat system doesn't convince me, I'm gonna give it another try before going back to Dark Souls"

Soulsfags confirmed for casuals, holy shit.
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>>335678623
Use the Slowdown talisman. Buff weapon with fire.
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>>335678339
>>335678373
>>335678446
i did. framerate never hit low enough to bother me
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>>335678510
Good work! I think the only thing in that boss fight that's giving people hassles is that they haven't figured out you can just sprint to avoid his lighting summons.

>>335678623
Bait out his two vertical strikes and dodge around to his back and land a few hits. Make sure you have some stamina left and either dodge away from his horizontal sweep counter or make sure you're facing him and block it (Which consumes about 40 stamina). Second phase is a whole lot easier, just roll out of the ball of his wrecking balls and go bananas when he falls down from his jumping attack. He's also weak to fire.
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>>335678703
>dying constantly
>learning skills, adapting to the combat system, trying different weapons
>git gud and enjoy the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pqh_3uIWFA&index=1&list=PLkNdu0OhiqopKjgsrJWPyxuR3UjUIbNRD

Just shows that soulsfags are casuals. ARE YOU PREPARED TO DIE LEL SO HARDCORE FOR HARDCORE GAMERS SUCH AS MYSELF PRAISE THE SUN FGT
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>>335678703
it actually only seems really hard if you dont switch your play styles. if someone goes in LULDARKSOULS theyll get theyre ass handed. its much slower and methodical. after i got it used to it, i had a lot of fun
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>>335678623
Circle strafe and go high when he's in the middle of a combo and your safely behind him. Avoid doing enders while you're in high so you have more room to dodge. Second phase go low or mid, but realize you'll be baiting his strikes so you can attack.
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>>335678838
>PRAISE THE SUN FGT

50hrs in dark souls 3
every area theres sun PRAISETHESUNMESSAGEEPICKEK
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>>335678623
Breaking his horns gives you a one time stagger, dodge the overhead swings and block the chains on the gay ass balltwirl move, low stance is very useful for being able to weave in and out between his moves.
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>>335678568
No, just that I'm locked at 720p and 30fps, but it goes well enough, it looks much better on the tv though, I am more comfortable playing on my PC rather than in the living room.

>>335678616
It's 13 pm where I am anon.

>>335678623
Roll through his attacks, strafe to his back and literally kick his arse. That one I killed on my first try.

>>335678820
there isn't even a need to sprint just run and don't try to heal meanwhile.


The trick for me on the second boss was actually stamina management though, using the battlefield better and place the ki draining pools in a way that wouldn't fuck me over when I went to attack the boss.
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>>335678851
>go high when he's in the middle of a combo and your safely behind him

Going high in his first phase is suicide as he will immediatly do the Spin2win attack and you will not have any stamina to dodge because high stance.
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>>335678623
Dodge
High stance katana
Prepare firedog special when his chains break, Hit him until he dies by your fire sword, he gets staggered by it.
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>>335679051

Ki pools affect yourself too? Gee.
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Literally artificial difficulty
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Do you guys think they'll keep the difficulty like this for the full game? I mean I know they're giving out free dlc to whoever finishes it, which has me kind of worried that they intentionally made the demo harder and that the full version will be toned down in some way.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid though. Really hoping it ends up living up to the difficulty of Team Ninja's older games.
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>>335678446
I thought it looked the same in movie mode, the movement is just more choppier.
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>>335679201
aw, they think theyre opinion is good and it matters
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>>335679214
If they'll listen to the majority, they'll make it easier. Everyone's complaining about it.
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>>335679073
Well suicide is debatable but it's definitely possible since that's how I got the phase change. Though admittedly I might've been at his side or flank instead of on his ass. Anyway I suggested no enders since that'd lock you in and leave you vulnerable.
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>>335679201
I admit that at begging it was fucking hard but giving up because of it is the biggest faggotry I have witnessed.
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>>335679303
>i dont understand the systems and mechanics of the game
>its hard! change it!
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deleted that shit
tries too hard to be dark souls
ninja gaiden is my favorite game of all times
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Why am I doing such pathetic damage to the first boss? It looks like he might be healing some of the damage too. I have a blue quality katana with 120 something damage and +13 earth damage, buffing it with the fire talisman. I also have 200 something damage purple quality hammer but it's too slow to safely use against the boss. Basically all I'm doing is baiting his overhead ball swings and hitting him in the back once or twice with heavy stance, ki pulse, then switching to mid in case he spins to win so I can block it. Also using the buff item that regenerates ki and dispels the dark energy fields. I can get to phase 2 but just run out of healing items. 3 just isn't enough, maybe I can cash in all this shitty gear I've found for more elixirs. The videos I've seen of this first boss they were all doing pretty decent chunks of damage and I'm getting nowhere near that.
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>>335679374
(you)
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>>335679201
>>335679248
>>335679303
These are exactly the kind of scrubs who were complaining about DeS back in 2009-10.
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>>335679303
We need as many people as possible to say that the demo is too easy and the main game needs to be harder.
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>>335679214

I don't see how they could tone it down in any significant way, except maybe give the human enemies less HP. The main thing that fucks you over in the beginning is not being used to the ki pulse system. I do think it's overly hard to fight against 2 or more enemies though but I don't know how they could change that except, again, giving them less HP or not hitting as hard.

I think the full game will be easier than the demo in the beginning but rev shit up to about the same level once you're in a bit.
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How does this ki pulse thing work?
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>>335679354
>>335679365
>>335679413
I even tried posting there. Got downvoted instantly
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>>335679391
Maybe your stats suck. Katanas scale mostly with Heart.
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>>335679443
Like active reloading from Gears. Only instead of a damage boosts it cleanses the environment.
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>>335679303
He sort of has a point in that it seems ridiculous for these badly equipped peasants who can barely swing three times before stumbling over to be doing more damage to you in one swing than you are to them. At least before you reach the burning village and have found decent gear. The main character does know what he's doing, you'd think he'd be hitting harder than the basic bandits.
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>>335679214
I get the feeling (or am at least hoping) that the DLC thing is partly so they know who to actually listen to with that survey thing. Hopefully the opinions of people that can actually play the game will carry more weight.

That said the real game will probably ease you into things a bit more, with the nature of alphas they wanted to just drop people in without even a set of armour and let them fend for themselves I think. Difficulty wise though I think the game should stay how it is, you only really hit a big stumbling block at the start since again you have no armour at all and it teaches you the hard way how you should be dealing with and picking your fights.
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How the fuck do you do ki bursts, and what's the point of the spirit animal meter filling up
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>>335679391
Level? How heavily armored were the players in the video?
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>>335679303

Fucking casuals. Would it kill them to let us have one challenging game? I mean I'm not even particularly good at this demo and I'm still enjoying all the beatings I'm getting.

If they have to tone it down, I hope they at least keep the current difficulty as an option for those of use that want it (though that would probably fuck up the online stuff...fuck).
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>>335679585
>I get the feeling (or am at least hoping) that the DLC thing is partly so they know who to actually listen to with that survey thing. Hopefully the opinions of people that can actually play the game will carry more weight.
It's a shame they don't have any system of checking, though. I'm sure the whiny babies will lie about it for exactly that reason.
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>>335679504
It's not even so much a "lol pleddit scrubs" thing either; exactly the same thing is just as apparent pretty much everywhere, including here. Those posts could be copied and pasted into some of the Nioh threads we've had over the past couple of days and they wouldn't be out of place at all.
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The matchmaking system synchronizes you with the host, so you cannot go all OP at lvl 30+ and just wreck everything on the first mission for example.
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>>335679214
I hope so, it's not even really that difficult even on the second level once you start getting into the groove of things, the only thing I would maybe say is echoing that multiple enemy fights are usually ass rape for you.

This whole bullshit about Artificial difficulty is either people having REALLY shit luck finding armor or people so bad that they're just trying to poise attack their way through the game like in a souls game.
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>>335679642
>any system of checking
Well the mark is a download, though that could probably be exploited in some manner. Either way they could just compare the numbers to get a rough idea.
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>>335677926
BUMP!
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>>335679601
When it's full and you press triangle + circle
it element buffs your weapon HARD. I killed the boss using it.
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>>335679606
I don't remember my level and don't feel like starting it up again to check at the moment but I know I have 11 strength, 11 heart, 9 of whatever that stat that gives you more stamina/ki is and close to 160HP. Most of my gear is pretty good, 3 purple pieces with high defense and two yellow with good defense. Got a purple accessory that increases lightning defense and restores stamina faster plus higher drop rates and a blue one that gives higher fire defense and drop rates.
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>>335679413
This game is closer to Dark Souls 2 than demon's souls
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>>335679354
at first I mostly died bucease I was trying to sue the souls games or bb buttons and control scheme, so I died several times because I did not attack an enemy right in front of me by pressing R1 or didn't doge because I pressed circle instead of x.
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I'm hearing it's clunky as fuck. What I liked about Souls is that you could play slow paced or you could up your stamina and play aggressive as fuck. Everyone is making it like you have to play a certain stance for different encounters and you have to play slow. That's fine for PvP, but I would prefer to not have some bots that read your inputs or enrage if you don't play a certain way because that's what everyone is making it sound like.


I'll download it over the weekend, but I don't like being pigeonholed into a certain approach unless I'm fighting a live opponent.
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>>335679391
120 isn't that great, maybe pushing average but he's a big clumsy guy so naturally he's tanky as hell. Maybe it's your stance or stats, don't forget about using Living Weapon either, it can do a shitton of damage. Also yeah always offer your shit, since the demo has no shop it's one of the best ways to get items and helps so much.
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Gameplay is slow and clumsy. Loot system is annoying. Getting knocked down over the slightest hit and then getting axed while down is idiotic. Graphics are shit (DF said action mode runs at 600p). Camera system is ass. Stamina meter is fucking stupid. Leveling up stats has no place in a TN game. Mechanics are poorly (or rather not even at all) explained.

Game was an extremely mediocre disappointment. Tried way too hard to ride the Souls wave of success rather than doing its own thing.

Here's all the things Nioh ripped directly from Souls:
>different rolls and speeds at weight thresholds
>picking up your "souls" off your bloodstain where you died previously
>other player bloodstains
>stamina bar
>gestures
>shortcuts
>weapon and gear system just like Souls
>level up system just like Souls
>weapon degradation (which has no place in a game like this)
>bonfi- I mean "shrines"
>estus fla- I mean elixers that refill at the "shrines"
>the tagline "Ready to die?"

I know Souls didn't "invent" (most) of these things, but it really is embarrassing and a bit sad that the pioneers of the 3D action genre have to ride the wave of another franchise's success and copy many of its key mechanics rather than doing its own thing.
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>>335679818
Anti-Denuvo and Fromdrones are mad as fuck that a sequel has already been confirmed. It's a better, Western take on the Souls formula with greater than Japanese production values that blows Bloodborne out of the water.

>A LOOSELY Souls style game with INSANELY better graphics.
>Motion-captured animations.
>Westernized/European aesthetic and ideals.
>Dynamically placed, ambient music cues
>A FULLY REALIZED, immersive story with a set character that's actually voiced.
>FULLY voiced audio notes
>Mouths actually move when characters talk
>Stops at NG++.
>Much harder, REALISTIC fighting.
>Metroid/Castlevania style exploration.
>Crafting
>Don't have to worry about retards interfering with your game
>A much MORE rewarding Level-up system that emphasizes risk versus playing it safe.
>No retarded marathon runs to get back to a boss
>Boss weapon drops are dependent on how you battle/kill a boss, making strategy VERY rewarding.
>It's on PC
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>>335679804

You don't have to. I'm mainly playing middle stance axe and doing just fine. On the contrary, in the beginning I played around a lot with the katana and the stances and had more problems than now. Find an approach that works for you and use that, I believe everything is quite viable.
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>>335679779
Then it might be your skills. You have been implementing your skills, yes? Skills being the menu where you got parry and enders.

Oh or it could be your lack of spirit or a weapon. Spirit gives you a bonus against you ain't though whether it atk+def or def is another matter. There's also some kats that deal additional damage against yokai/humans or general close combat damage buff.
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>>335679303
>Samurai based game
>die if you get sliced by a katana twice

I don't see what's wrong here.
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>>335679763
Man I can't believe I missed that. I looked really hard for explanations for it but couldn't find it anywhere in game
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>>335677815
It's based off of wrpgs and gearlt cause scars are cool to gaijins.
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>>335679937

A lot of things are explained pretty late as you go on and find amrita on dead bodies.
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>>335679642
Yeah I'm a little worried about that, didn't even want to bring it up to give anyone the idea but perhaps the actual wording of things will give it away, the way some people complain can be pretty transparent.
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>>335679937
Living weapon might be in the second level though the tool tips can have it as well.
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>>335679928
Yeah, I've completely filled out everything for hammer and katana mid/high stances. Haven't bothered with low stances yet since I only used it for the dweller things so I could stunlock them and dodge for ki pulse to stay on top of them.
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I downloaded the demo knowing nothing about it because katanas and shit and it's just another souls game.
Welp, this shit is not for me.
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>>335679741
There you go, I took this right from the title screen.

>>335678025
I've captured the footage of them sparring, I'll get to making a webm of it later.
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>>335679642
>>335680031
>Get to the DLC prompt
>558 likes

Jesus christ, I know the likes might not be how many people downloaded it but still, that's REALLY low.
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is there a way to see my playtime in the demo? I bet it's over 15h.
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>>335680092
Yep that's why your kat damage seems sub-par.
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>>335679818
>>picking up your "souls" off your bloodstain where you died previously
>>other player bloodstains
>>bonfi- I mean "shrines"
These are the only things that are actually lifted from Souls. Everything else is basic as shit.
>estus fla- I mean elixers that refill at the "shrines"
And here is where you confirm that you haven't actually played it and are speaking out your arse.
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>>335680163
Not them but I thought you always started at 3 when you left a shrine, but found more from enemies.
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>>335680125
Well that's about 200 more than when I got to it last night.
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>>335680204
Yeah, it's not like Estus shards or anything, additional ones do stack up to 9, but if you burn through those, you're back to 3 if you go to a shrine.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE RED POT/HEALING SPIRIT IN THE FIRST LEVEL I SEARCHED THROUGH IT FOUR TIMES
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>>335680204
Yeah maybe? By the time I got to Nue, I regularly had 6 on me every time I prayed. Might be tied to Kodamas perhaps. You can start with more via offering but that's a one and do everything thing.
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>>335680246
Damn. Combat's pretty good. But that's expected from Team Ninja,
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>>335679073

High stance but be patient
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>>335679818
Nice pasta faggot
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>>335680239
Ah, so that's what you meant, and it actually stacks up to 10 unless there was something I'm missing, because I was up to ten in the second level and couldn't pick anymore up.
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>>335679261
aw, you think it does not.

also,
>theyre
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>>335680246
If you change to low stance while you're in attack animation you can take advantage of the dodge stamina recovery with the other two stances.
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>>335680406
Oh no, sorry anon, I wasn't the guy you were talking to, that was just my understanding of it.
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So should I just give up on getting whetstones? I've been having trouble with the first boss and 2 of my good weapons broke so I went around the entire area twice and did not find one.

Then I offered the random loot I found and did not get one. Is the best way to just be using the random weapons I get instead of repairing?

Also, why is my familiarity not going up with any of the weapons I'm using?
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>>335680406
Ten's the cap though you might be able to upgrade your starting amount through some means.
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>>335680476
I wish you could pay money or notsouls to repair shit, it's so annoying.
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>>335680125
I didn't even notice there was a way to like it or anything, and that's only after they beat the boss so I dunno if I'd really take that as a judge of popularity at least right now.
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>>335680476
I don't think familiarity is implemented yet.
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>>335680476
I don't think familiarity is implemented at all yet outside of the number and the starting equipment. Also whetstones are the only major complaint I have in the demo, I'm assuming there will be a shop in the main game where you can buy them but if RNG gods want to shit on you, you'll never be able to use your good weapons again.
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>>335680612
Can whetstones drop from enemies? I've only seen one from a chest so far.
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There's probably going to be a shop-menu at shrines where you'll be able to buy items ( including whetstones and glue ) with gold in the full game. Money is pretty useless in this demo right now.
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>>335680764
Yeah they can
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>>335680612
I've read that quite a few people (Not just here, either) have been requesting buyable whetstones and glue from the shrine, or basically just having a blacksmith there so you can repair your gear for gold. Though maybe they've already thought of that, since the amount of gold you're getting far exceeds anything you'd be likely to spend it on in the demo.

>>335680764
Yeah, though they're not hugely common.
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Did Team Ninja actually make a good game this time ?
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Guys what is a ki burst and how do you do it?
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>>335680476
Weapons in the beginning aren't all that great, if your broken weapons really can't keep up then swap out, eventually you'll start picking up more and more stuff you can offer while killing everyone and then you'll be rolling in stones. Although if you're really at the first boss you should be getting tons of stuff just killing the people in the village. Maybe you need more equipment that boosts drop rate or something.

As for the familiarity thing I'm not sure, I didn't pay attention to it since no smith in the demo yet but I didn't have problems maxing it out, could be because the weapons are broken.
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>>335680989
Woah. Didn't know this was possible.
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>>335680906
Here's the best explanation I can give:

When you attack, your stamina essentially does a fighting game bar thing where you have your green bar, a red bar, and your completely depleted stamina. Now when you're done attacking, the red bar will fill up with a "ghost" white bar very quickly, and hitting R1 while the bar is there will give you back that much stamina, but if you don't, you'll lose the red bar of stamina.
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>>335680476
Clicking help on the familiarity thing says "Indicates how much you have used an item. The higher your familiarity, the better a chance at finding the Smith Amrita when you disassemble it." That means that disassembling items are a thing, perhaps to get the ability to smith specific pieces of armour. It's unclear right now.
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>>335680906
When you do a combo you will see you ki bar drop and part will turn red, then that red part will start to quickly turn white, pressing R1 will instantly get you that white bit of your bar back, instead of your bar having to charge that bit before charging the rest.

Its not anything you really gotta worry about in small fights, but you can tell with quick enemies and groups it will be important.
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>get summoned
>host standing int he shrine not moving for 10 mins
>no way to end the session except for dying.

welp here I go to drown myself.
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WHAT KIND OF NAME IS WILLIAM FOR A JAP
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>>335679873
how much time do you have on your hands

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/anti-denuvo%20fromdrones/

seriously
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>>335680842
It's a bit of a silly thing to request really, it's obvious there's going to be a way to buy items and fix your weapons and the game mentions a blacksmith.
>>335680906
After an attack your ki starts to "refill" to a point where it was at before, hit R1 and you instantly recover your ki up to that point, otherwise it'll start to actually refill from where it's really at.
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>I don't get how the game works, therefore the mechanics are shit and the game is bad

Literally all the complains that I've seen are like this. Getting 1-2hitKO without armor and with it lasting 3-5 hits makes a LOT of sense. You're a goddamn human being, not a chosen one half-dragon half-angel.

The things I will change is give stamina a different color than Health, fix camara issues and improve the resolution, otherwise it's pretty fucking solid.
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>>335681136

that might have been me

when did that happen? now?
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>>335681076
so it functions like bloodbornes regain system but its for stamnia and ki bursting allows you to instantly move after an attack so it skips the time between final attack animation>normal standing animation????
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>>335681119
Impressive gameplay. The stances make it look more dynamic.
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>>335681207
Kind of yeah, I don't know about the animation canceling part though, it might do that but I'm using a katana so it isn't too noticeable if it does or not.
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>>335681136
that's why they gave you harakiri sword.
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>>335681207
It's not so much like Bloodborne since it doesn't come back from attack but that second part is more or less right yeah, it cancels the very end of the animation and the longer you wait till you cancel it the more ki you get back. It's a lot easier to understand when you just watch the bar and see it done.
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How to the "stick forward + X" combo finishers work? Is there a specific timing I'm not getting? Because I'm pulling them off successfully about 10% of the time.
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It's overly difficult just for the sake of cashing in on the DaS3 hype. Not a fan of one hit kills.

Anyway, I beat the boss. Is there a reward for beating the second area?
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>>335681313
That was me just fucking around when it first came out, didn't really understand the mechanics.

But once you understand things like ki bursts and stance swapping you can pull off some really cool shit.
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>>335681445
I've seen someone say that it works like souls kicking mechanics, where it has to be at the same time, and someone else said that they also had better luck when they hold X.
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>>335681462
you mean like bonus DLC? no.
but the 2nd boss drops an amazing lightning katana.
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>>335681445
>>335681512
Also much easier on bigger enemies since you run up them.
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>>335681186
yeah, the username looked like japanese though.
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>>335681445
You need to be close to your opponent I've found, really close for the katana one. Next time I play I'll probably experiment more with landing them but that seemed to be the deal with them.
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>>335681567
>lightning katana
pic related.
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>>335681462
I did. Thanks.
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>>335681462
Stop showing the enemy your back. Back attack damage is insane in this.
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>>335681462
>Cashing in on DaS3 hype
>Game isn't coming out for awhile

Yeah totally. Also what one hit kills are people even talking about? Is everyone just not wearing armor or are they not realizing that you need stats to equip certain armors and that you don't get the bonuses when you don't?
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>tfw you finally git gud and game is easy
I want to take it back, I want to struggle again.
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>>335681639
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>>335681697
Just wait til the full game. Imagine the weapon variety and all the possible yokai.
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>>335680764
Offer items to the shrine to get tons of them.
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>>335681512
>>335681576
>>335681593
Yeah, holding X works a bit better but it's still unreliable as fuck. And you really don't want this specific move to come out unreliably because you'll end up dashing right into the enemy and his attacks.
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>>335681653
Could you stop using logic? Thanks.
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>>335681790
And all the new combos + spells.
Fuck this is the hypest game of 2016.
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>>335681840
When are you doing it? I was able to do it pretty consistently after two light attacks. Yokai mid-attack were the only thing to really hinder the ender but it's better done from the flank on them.
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The menu seems to imply that you can have different combo enders depending on the combo.
I guess that's something we'll see in the full game?
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>>335681950
The irony in that pic is so strong, because the game gives you exactly that from the start.
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This is a gold mine. But it still makes me mad how people can be this stupid.

>>335682110
You can learn skills and there are a few combo finishers in the demo.
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>>335682110
Possibly. I know the kitana can change their triangle or one of their enders to be an aoe stun if you get the skill. Not sure about axe or spear.
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>>335677850

I asked them to make the game easier. I am tired of try hard pretentious games. I dont have time to learn all these stupid mechanics. I just want to have fun.
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Does anyone knows the difference between the katanas? I noticed there's two different icons for katanas but i was about to leave so i couldn't check if there was any difference.
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>First enemy was easy, but can't figure out how to get past #2 & 3.

I thought people were joking when they said they can't get past the beach.
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>>335679538

What do you mean in cleanses the enviroment?
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I hope Team Ninja just looks at the shitters and go "we're not changing anything". And in the end, these shitters will learn and praise the mechanics instead.

Then comes the new "hard game" and the process continues.
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>>335682192
Yeah, but you can only have one combo ender active at the time.
The katana can either have aoe stun or kick, but I'd like to have for example square+triangle be aoe stun and square+square+triangle be kick, isn't possible.
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>>335682059
I mean, you don't need an enemy to practice the move, you can pull it off just slicing air. I honestly just don't get it.
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>>335682372
those gray zones yokai put down slows your stamina regen, doing Ki pulse will remove them.
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>Turns out Dark Souls was not as hardcore as these people thought
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>>335682379
>And in the end, these shitters will learn and praise the mechanics instead

Hahahahahaha, that was a nice joke m8.
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>>335682294
need to have it hotkeyed so you can save your honor in a pinch.
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Everyone complaining about difficulty should fucking kill themselves.
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>>335682371
geez there people, learn ninjutsu and thow a suriken at one
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>>335682372
You'll see it more with yokai but they can drop these zones of monochrome that stunt your stamina regen. You do a pulse and the zone disappears. All of Nue's lightning drops leave monochrome zones.
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>>335681653

I finished the demo and 9 out of 10 Bloodstains were all in lvl 1. People dont know they can level in the shrine and activate skills.
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>>335677764
Yasuke, an African, became one of Nobunaga's retainers in the 1500's.
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>>335682371
>Literally a corpse with 3 rocks before the 2 people.
>Well don't know what these are for, lets go fight these guys 2v1

What's funny is you don't even need the rock, you can easily pull the first guy without getting the second one.

Like what the fuck, how have you played a souls game and not understand what the fuck a rock would do.
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Can't blame people for trying to play it like a Souls game since it borrows so heavily from them.
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>Watching streams and youtube walkthroughs
>All these dumb shits running out of stamina and getting punished when they stop to take a breath
>Waaahh this is too hard

These retards are all spamming attack and dodges like it was Ninja Gaiden or Dark Souls.
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>William is a master of the katana just from his Japanese blood
So this is the power of yamato damashii......
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>>335682549
I've seen level 15's on the beach.

THE BEACH
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>>335682713

"Playing it like souls" should mean managing your stamina, being patient and taking time to learn the mechanics. People complaining arent doing any of that.
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>>335682810
I know I fight revenants a whole lot when I start fresh, could have been me.
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>finally beat the Oni in the boat village after almost 50 tries
God, I love this game already.
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>>335682810
I came back to the first level after killing Nue at level 38 to practice parrying and got killed. Don't judge.
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>>335682924
Souls games usually don't have one hit kills though.
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>>335683146
you wont die from one hit if you're wearing armor
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>an alpha build of this game has better PvP than dark souls ever had
Pottery
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>>335683146
If the net's to be believed bosses do, whole the enemies just stun lock you to death
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I think the biggest problem in the game is that it tries to be realistic in some aspects and totally unrealistic in others in a way that makes it feel really annoying. You die from a few hits and your stamina depletes after a few hits while the enemies take twice as many hits and use less stamina per hit.
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>>335683269
Get out of high stance.
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>>335682327
Please respond
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>>335683213
Samurai and many of the demons can one shot you while in full armor.

Damage output is out of control.
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>>335683336
Doesn't matter. Even low stance and mid stance drain stamina HARD. I've pumped shitloads into KI and between dodging, blocking, and attacking William is gasping for air in moments.

The game is fucked and adjustments to the values have to be made behind the scenes.
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>>335683393
Yeah. In Souls games you are incredibly fragile and die in a few hits, but so do most enemies. It's a bit strange here that enemies kill you incredibly easily but you are comparitively very weak.
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>>335683473
Are you doing ki bursts? Because it sounds like you're not.
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>>335683473
wat. Katana Low-stance + Ki burst dodges means you'll be comboing for an eternity.
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>>335683269
>>335683473
Please, the axe wielding mooks swing like retards and exhaust themselves in 2 swings while you can swing at least 3 times and can regain your Ki with Ki burst. Look at this Webm for some guy dicking around and not mastering the system yet.>>335681119
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NEW THREAD
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>>335682382
Ahh, I haven't looked into the combos that much, but if it isn't there you can try suggesting it in the survey. After all it is in alpha.
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>>335683504
Case in point: The second area.

Nearly every fucking demon in there takes forever and a day to kill. Even the little grey fags that crawl on the ground will halve your HP with two hits.

The transforming kid demons? I don't even bother. They can two shot William while it takes him ages to kill them even with a buffed 302 attack Axe using High Stance.
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>>335683725
>233 posts
>new thread
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>>335682382
You can do that. I can't remember which tab but that's totally possible. You can even set different finishers for different stances.
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>>335681119
KI Burst makes no sense.

That needs to be removed from the game or incorporated into some other button. Pressing R1 randomly while also having fingers on L1, face buttons, analog sticks is retarded.
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>>335683867
Oh? I tried that in the menu but it changed all of them.
Maybe I did it wrong? I guess I'll test some more.
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>>335682924
This is not a Souls games.

Souls games aren't this punishing outside of SL1 runs.
No Souls first boss is as hard relative to the player as Oniryoki.
No Souls game has the first dozen enemies one-shot you.
No Souls game has such minuscule stamina gains per point invested.
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Most people still dont know you deal double damage if you attack them from behind, you can exhaust their fatigue for finishers and deal massive damage as well as parry them.
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>x is confirm, o is back out in menus
>o is interact in the main world
Why?
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>>335683658
Low stance is a waste of fucking time. 2 slashes in mid will do more damage than a dozen in low, and for less stamina too.
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>>335684061

And thank god for that. Dark Souls 3 felt stale and boring as shit. I want something new and this is great.
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>>335684073
Most people don't read the menu tips or the amrita memories. Those same people will complain about things not being explained.
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>>335684073
>Most people still dont know you deal double damage if you attack them from behind, you can exhaust their fatigue for finishers and deal massive damage as well as parry them.
Due to the way lock on works, most people will never find out because of lock on + the enemies are on a fucking lazy susan.
By the time you exhaust any worthwhile enemy's fatigue, you will be exhausted too. I've tried everything on the Samurai in the 2nd area. Doesn't work. It's better to wait for him to exhaust himself with high stance memeshit.
Attempting to parry in a game swinging from 60 to 20 fps and back again at all times is a fool's errand.
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>>335683952
Nigga you just press R1 when finish the attack animation.
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>>335684248
Amirate memories don't mention KI Burst or explain it well.

KI Burst also doesn't work properly. Why the fagging fuck would you stand in a Yokai zone flailing your fucking sword to clear it? It doesn't make sense at ALL, not even in-universe.
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>>335684140
Less people would have problems with the bosses if they'd actually use the superior Low stance dodge, so there's that.
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>>335684340
Doesn't work reliably. Same thing with parries. Anything dependant on timing in a game whose frames are being rendered (randomly) at anything from 16.6ms to 33.33ms or worse makes timing nigh-impossible.

Also, attempting to parry in a game where everything and their mom 2 shots you is fucking stupid.

Sounds like something Farron Greatsword users would do.
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Anyone know where my last Kodama could be on stage 2? I've killed every single enemy and still cannot find the little shit.
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>>335677548
Still have to fight Nue. Wish me luck.
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>>335682537
Me on the right
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>>335684401
Now this I'll agree with. The only worthwhile thing in Low Stance is that sweet evasion. Pretty sure it has better i-frames than the other two.

I didn't need anything more than simple running in the Nue fight, though. It's the Oniryoki fag that necessitated things like that. What a godawful fight.
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>added game to my PSN account last night
>26 hours later it hasn't even started downloading
What is this "rest mode" for then?
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>>335684374
It's the only way to clear it to stop the Youkai from regaining his KI shield when you run outta Charms. The game rewards you if you play aggressive as fuck like Bloodborne.

>>335684481
You don't have to even time it unless you want a perfect KI burst. Just mash R1 when you have 0 stamina and you will recover enough to avoid the depletion mechanic.
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>>335684481
You get a visual cue telling you when to press the button...can't get much more reliable than PRESS BUTTON NOW
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