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Does a videogame finally do Ken-Sama justice, /v/?Remember to fill out the feedback survey when you've finished it, you Korean homosexuals.http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_uk
First for it isn't Souls and git gud
>>335677548
Third or so for crying about the difficulty.
Blind gameplay without a faggot commentating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pqh_3uIWFA&index=1&list=PLkNdu0OhiqopKjgsrJWPyxuR3UjUIbNRD
The lock on is shit, can't even begin playing like this.
>>335677643
>Blind playthrough
Who would want this?
Why is the main character white blonde blue eyes
>>335677670
Then do the survey and comment on it, you memespouting shitlord.
>>335677548
>http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_uk
Why do you keep posting the muslim version?
>>335677670
The only gripe about it is that if you're locked on to an enemy and you kill it, it doesn't automatically jump to the next one.
>>335677695
Because he's a dirty gaijin.
I won't be able to play it until more than likely thursday morning
Give me your impressions so i know what to expect
>>335677695
Because he's a 27 year American otaku (Anime fan for you gaijins).
>>335677695
Apparently its historically accurate as far as I've heard. One of the last true samurai was a foreigner. So the Last Samurai movie wasn't actually katana cultist pandering as I once believed. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.
So what does the DLC actually give you for the main game?Also release date when, I'm hyped.
>>335677695
Japan still isn't over the one time Hitler called them honorary aryans.
>>335677729
It's fun. Playing with the different stances and getting new skills (and learning how best to use them) makes it replayable af.
It's Razor's Edge all over again.
What a let down.
>>335677695
Because he's based on this guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29
>>335677764
He's Eurasian in the story, but he's a loose pastiche of William Adams, an explorer and Protestant missionary from England who went to Japan in the early 1600s and became the first ever white samurai. He remains something of a cult hero in Japan to this day, so there's quite a bit of fiction based on him.
>>335677771
No one knows yet. Probably just some special equipment or a unique Kodama or something.
>>335677771
>So what does the DLC actually give you for the main game
An unbreakablelv3katana.
>>335677729
a lot of key mechanics isn't explained that well, control and system takes a bit of time to get used to.
if you play it like its dark souls you're gonna get rekked.
I hope everyone is suggesting changeable hair in the survey
>>335677764
William Adams was the first (western) samurai, not the last one.
But yes it's historically "correct", up to Adams not being a shipwrecked diplomat but an Oni hunter.
try to find a more cheese attack in the game than the triangle attack for the axe overhead stanceyou can't
>>335677789
Hory shit I raughed
>>335677729
Lock on is virtually useless, so half of the time you'll be trying to find a target rather than doing actual combat.
Wait until they fix it.
>>335677725
Personally I'd like the lockon range to be wider, instead of only really being able swap between people in front. It'd make parrying when dealing with crowds easier and cooler since then you can drop one guy and stay looking where most of them usually are.
>>335677850
Much more important than cosmetics is more item shortcuts.
>>335677850
Yep, I asked for different hairstyles and facial hair.
>>335677840
I would be furious as I laugh.
ANYONE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE CUTE KODAMAS?
>>335677695
He's based off of William Adams.
>>335677859
>sweep and dash lower stance of the spear
literally an auto-win button
Is evasion supposed to be a joke? Is it there just to troll you?
Shit game anyway, hope they fix it.
>>335677926
Screw that, we need a webm of them sparring with sticks on the title screen.
>>335677764
Just no. There were a couple of foreigners who were granted samurai status, as far back as the 1600s though. What do you define as "one of the last true samurai"? There's no such thing, as formally, the samurai class was abolished all at the same time. There were rebels who fought back in the Boshin war (what the Last Samurai is based upon) and there were foreign advisors on the rebels side too, but they were not "samurai".
If you're wider in your definition, there are still samurai existant today, what with direct descendants from former daimyo families, such as the Takeda, or direct descendants from widely known samurai such as Sakamoto Ryoma. Also heads of sword schools, etc. etc.
Also you could say that sumo wrestlers are the last true samurai, as they completely abandon their lives to train and fight all day and they are the last people still allowed to wear the chonmage, which samurai had to cut off when their class was abolished.Fun fact, the 17th direct descendant of Oda Nobunaga, which even /v/ should know, is a retired figure skater.
>>335678012
There's i-frames out the asshole, the only joke here is your sexual performance.
HOW THE FUCK DO I AVOID THE SPIN BALLS ATTACK OF THE FIRST BOSS
FUCKING
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>335677912
>facial hair
This. I need to cover up that shovel face.
Main characters look not based on the Shogun series.....
Wew lads.
>>335678064
attack once then press R1 at the right time to regain enough stamina so you'll be able to just block his attacks. Thats what i did
>>335678064
You can block the horizontal sweeps if you're facing them, which consume about 40 points stamina.
Game seems like it'll be fun. Camera feels floaty and weapons lack meatiness, but conceptually it seems like it'll be a hot potatoe on release.
>>335678064
Roll through them.
>>335678042
Neat. I'm happy the bloodlines survived. There was just a time when I doubted the Hollywood adaptations and therefore Nioh too because it felt as if they distorted history. Glad to know its founded in truth, at least historically.
Looking forward to the game.
Why would anyone play in movie mode?
>>335678235
I'm assuming you don't know that Nioh has its origins in a half-finished Akira Kurosawa script?Though sadly it doesn't seem to be based off that beyond the core anymore, sadly
>>335678339
Because I'm not sensitive to framerate.
So this is literally filthy gaijin teleports behind you in medieval Japan?
>>335678380
Mighty whitey goes to the east to show em' how it's done.
>>335678339
The framerate is stable enough on movie mode for me, and it looks fantastic
picture completely unrelated
This was great. Lots of QoL-improvements they need to make for the final game though.
Stamina management in this game with the Ki-blast stuff is amazing.
I fucking rage quitted at the first boss.
Good job Koei. You are the first in forever that made me do it.
The anon of the other thread that couldn't defeat the Nue...
I did it!
Going low and punishing + Raikiri really did the trick, thank you for the advices you gave me guys.Yes I'm playing on streaming mode from my PC.
What's a safe level to stay at to ensure matchmaking? I was thinking 40 but it might be too high.
>>335678510
Doesn't the delay fuck you over?
>>335677871
>>335677725
>>335677670
i felt no issue with the lock on. just had to get use to that youd turn your back on the enemy and retain locked on and holding block made it so youd stay facing
>>335678510
Congrats man, now go to bed.
>>335678510
Now give me some tips for the first boss on the boat because i am getting ass-cancer.
>Watching a walkthrough of the game in youtube
>Player dies constantly
>"The combat system doesn't convince me, I'm gonna give it another try before going back to Dark Souls"
Soulsfags confirmed for casuals, holy shit.
>>335678623
Use the Slowdown talisman. Buff weapon with fire.
>>335678339
>>335678373
>>335678446
i did. framerate never hit low enough to bother me
>>335678510
Good work! I think the only thing in that boss fight that's giving people hassles is that they haven't figured out you can just sprint to avoid his lighting summons.
>>335678623
Bait out his two vertical strikes and dodge around to his back and land a few hits. Make sure you have some stamina left and either dodge away from his horizontal sweep counter or make sure you're facing him and block it (Which consumes about 40 stamina). Second phase is a whole lot easier, just roll out of the ball of his wrecking balls and go bananas when he falls down from his jumping attack. He's also weak to fire.
>>335678703
>dying constantly
>learning skills, adapting to the combat system, trying different weapons
>git gud and enjoy the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pqh_3uIWFA&index=1&list=PLkNdu0OhiqopKjgsrJWPyxuR3UjUIbNRD
Just shows that soulsfags are casuals. ARE YOU PREPARED TO DIE LEL SO HARDCORE FOR HARDCORE GAMERS SUCH AS MYSELF PRAISE THE SUN FGT
>>335678703
it actually only seems really hard if you dont switch your play styles. if someone goes in LULDARKSOULS theyll get theyre ass handed. its much slower and methodical. after i got it used to it, i had a lot of fun
>>335678623
Circle strafe and go high when he's in the middle of a combo and your safely behind him. Avoid doing enders while you're in high so you have more room to dodge. Second phase go low or mid, but realize you'll be baiting his strikes so you can attack.
>>335678838
>PRAISE THE SUN FGT
50hrs in dark souls 3
every area theres sun PRAISETHESUNMESSAGEEPICKEK
>>335678623
Breaking his horns gives you a one time stagger, dodge the overhead swings and block the chains on the gay ass balltwirl move, low stance is very useful for being able to weave in and out between his moves.
>>335678568
No, just that I'm locked at 720p and 30fps, but it goes well enough, it looks much better on the tv though, I am more comfortable playing on my PC rather than in the living room.
>>335678616
It's 13 pm where I am anon.
>>335678623
Roll through his attacks, strafe to his back and literally kick his arse. That one I killed on my first try.
>>335678820
there isn't even a need to sprint just run and don't try to heal meanwhile.
The trick for me on the second boss was actually stamina management though, using the battlefield better and place the ki draining pools in a way that wouldn't fuck me over when I went to attack the boss.
>>335678851
>go high when he's in the middle of a combo and your safely behind him
Going high in his first phase is suicide as he will immediatly do the Spin2win attack and you will not have any stamina to dodge because high stance.
>>335678623
Dodge
High stance katana
Prepare firedog special when his chains break, Hit him until he dies by your fire sword, he gets staggered by it.
>>335679051
Ki pools affect yourself too? Gee.
Literally artificial difficulty
Do you guys think they'll keep the difficulty like this for the full game? I mean I know they're giving out free dlc to whoever finishes it, which has me kind of worried that they intentionally made the demo harder and that the full version will be toned down in some way.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid though. Really hoping it ends up living up to the difficulty of Team Ninja's older games.
>>335678446
I thought it looked the same in movie mode, the movement is just more choppier.
>>335679201
aw, they think theyre opinion is good and it matters
>>335679214
If they'll listen to the majority, they'll make it easier. Everyone's complaining about it.
>>335679073
Well suicide is debatable but it's definitely possible since that's how I got the phase change. Though admittedly I might've been at his side or flank instead of on his ass. Anyway I suggested no enders since that'd lock you in and leave you vulnerable.
>>335679201
I admit that at begging it was fucking hard but giving up because of it is the biggest faggotry I have witnessed.
>>335679303
>i dont understand the systems and mechanics of the game
>its hard! change it!
deleted that shit
tries too hard to be dark souls
ninja gaiden is my favorite game of all times
Why am I doing such pathetic damage to the first boss? It looks like he might be healing some of the damage too. I have a blue quality katana with 120 something damage and +13 earth damage, buffing it with the fire talisman. I also have 200 something damage purple quality hammer but it's too slow to safely use against the boss. Basically all I'm doing is baiting his overhead ball swings and hitting him in the back once or twice with heavy stance, ki pulse, then switching to mid in case he spins to win so I can block it. Also using the buff item that regenerates ki and dispels the dark energy fields. I can get to phase 2 but just run out of healing items. 3 just isn't enough, maybe I can cash in all this shitty gear I've found for more elixirs. The videos I've seen of this first boss they were all doing pretty decent chunks of damage and I'm getting nowhere near that.
>>335679374
(you)
>>335679201
>>335679248
>>335679303
These are exactly the kind of scrubs who were complaining about DeS back in 2009-10.
>>335679303
We need as many people as possible to say that the demo is too easy and the main game needs to be harder.
>>335679214
I don't see how they could tone it down in any significant way, except maybe give the human enemies less HP. The main thing that fucks you over in the beginning is not being used to the ki pulse system. I do think it's overly hard to fight against 2 or more enemies though but I don't know how they could change that except, again, giving them less HP or not hitting as hard.
I think the full game will be easier than the demo in the beginning but rev shit up to about the same level once you're in a bit.
How does this ki pulse thing work?
>>335679354
>>335679365
>>335679413I even tried posting there. Got downvoted instantly
>>335679391
Maybe your stats suck. Katanas scale mostly with Heart.
>>335679443
Like active reloading from Gears. Only instead of a damage boosts it cleanses the environment.
>>335679303
He sort of has a point in that it seems ridiculous for these badly equipped peasants who can barely swing three times before stumbling over to be doing more damage to you in one swing than you are to them. At least before you reach the burning village and have found decent gear. The main character does know what he's doing, you'd think he'd be hitting harder than the basic bandits.
>>335679214
I get the feeling (or am at least hoping) that the DLC thing is partly so they know who to actually listen to with that survey thing. Hopefully the opinions of people that can actually play the game will carry more weight.
That said the real game will probably ease you into things a bit more, with the nature of alphas they wanted to just drop people in without even a set of armour and let them fend for themselves I think. Difficulty wise though I think the game should stay how it is, you only really hit a big stumbling block at the start since again you have no armour at all and it teaches you the hard way how you should be dealing with and picking your fights.
How the fuck do you do ki bursts, and what's the point of the spirit animal meter filling up
>>335679391
Level? How heavily armored were the players in the video?
>>335679303
Fucking casuals. Would it kill them to let us have one challenging game? I mean I'm not even particularly good at this demo and I'm still enjoying all the beatings I'm getting.
If they have to tone it down, I hope they at least keep the current difficulty as an option for those of use that want it (though that would probably fuck up the online stuff...fuck).
>>335679585
>I get the feeling (or am at least hoping) that the DLC thing is partly so they know who to actually listen to with that survey thing. Hopefully the opinions of people that can actually play the game will carry more weight.
It's a shame they don't have any system of checking, though. I'm sure the whiny babies will lie about it for exactly that reason.
>>335679504
It's not even so much a "lol pleddit scrubs" thing either; exactly the same thing is just as apparent pretty much everywhere, including here. Those posts could be copied and pasted into some of the Nioh threads we've had over the past couple of days and they wouldn't be out of place at all.
The matchmaking system synchronizes you with the host, so you cannot go all OP at lvl 30+ and just wreck everything on the first mission for example.
>>335679214
I hope so, it's not even really that difficult even on the second level once you start getting into the groove of things, the only thing I would maybe say is echoing that multiple enemy fights are usually ass rape for you.
This whole bullshit about Artificial difficulty is either people having REALLY shit luck finding armor or people so bad that they're just trying to poise attack their way through the game like in a souls game.
>>335679642
>any system of checking
Well the mark is a download, though that could probably be exploited in some manner. Either way they could just compare the numbers to get a rough idea.
>>335677926
BUMP!
>>335679601
When it's full and you press triangle + circle
it element buffs your weapon HARD. I killed the boss using it.
>>335679606
I don't remember my level and don't feel like starting it up again to check at the moment but I know I have 11 strength, 11 heart, 9 of whatever that stat that gives you more stamina/ki is and close to 160HP. Most of my gear is pretty good, 3 purple pieces with high defense and two yellow with good defense. Got a purple accessory that increases lightning defense and restores stamina faster plus higher drop rates and a blue one that gives higher fire defense and drop rates.
>>335679413
This game is closer to Dark Souls 2 than demon's souls
>>335679354
at first I mostly died bucease I was trying to sue the souls games or bb buttons and control scheme, so I died several times because I did not attack an enemy right in front of me by pressing R1 or didn't doge because I pressed circle instead of x.
I'm hearing it's clunky as fuck. What I liked about Souls is that you could play slow paced or you could up your stamina and play aggressive as fuck. Everyone is making it like you have to play a certain stance for different encounters and you have to play slow. That's fine for PvP, but I would prefer to not have some bots that read your inputs or enrage if you don't play a certain way because that's what everyone is making it sound like.
I'll download it over the weekend, but I don't like being pigeonholed into a certain approach unless I'm fighting a live opponent.
>>335679391
120 isn't that great, maybe pushing average but he's a big clumsy guy so naturally he's tanky as hell. Maybe it's your stance or stats, don't forget about using Living Weapon either, it can do a shitton of damage. Also yeah always offer your shit, since the demo has no shop it's one of the best ways to get items and helps so much.
Gameplay is slow and clumsy. Loot system is annoying. Getting knocked down over the slightest hit and then getting axed while down is idiotic. Graphics are shit (DF said action mode runs at 600p). Camera system is ass. Stamina meter is fucking stupid. Leveling up stats has no place in a TN game. Mechanics are poorly (or rather not even at all) explained.
Game was an extremely mediocre disappointment. Tried way too hard to ride the Souls wave of success rather than doing its own thing.
Here's all the things Nioh ripped directly from Souls:
>different rolls and speeds at weight thresholds
>picking up your "souls" off your bloodstain where you died previously
>other player bloodstains
>stamina bar
>gestures
>shortcuts
>weapon and gear system just like Souls
>level up system just like Souls
>weapon degradation (which has no place in a game like this)
>bonfi- I mean "shrines"
>estus fla- I mean elixers that refill at the "shrines"
>the tagline "Ready to die?"
I know Souls didn't "invent" (most) of these things, but it really is embarrassing and a bit sad that the pioneers of the 3D action genre have to ride the wave of another franchise's success and copy many of its key mechanics rather than doing its own thing.
>>335679818
Anti-Denuvo and Fromdrones are mad as fuck that a sequel has already been confirmed. It's a better, Western take on the Souls formula with greater than Japanese production values that blows Bloodborne out of the water.
>A LOOSELY Souls style game with INSANELY better graphics.
>Motion-captured animations.
>Westernized/European aesthetic and ideals.
>Dynamically placed, ambient music cues
>A FULLY REALIZED, immersive story with a set character that's actually voiced.
>FULLY voiced audio notes
>Mouths actually move when characters talk
>Stops at NG++.
>Much harder, REALISTIC fighting.
>Metroid/Castlevania style exploration.
>Crafting
>Don't have to worry about retards interfering with your game
>A much MORE rewarding Level-up system that emphasizes risk versus playing it safe.
>No retarded marathon runs to get back to a boss
>Boss weapon drops are dependent on how you battle/kill a boss, making strategy VERY rewarding.
>It's on PC
>>335679804
You don't have to. I'm mainly playing middle stance axe and doing just fine. On the contrary, in the beginning I played around a lot with the katana and the stances and had more problems than now. Find an approach that works for you and use that, I believe everything is quite viable.
>>335679779
Then it might be your skills. You have been implementing your skills, yes? Skills being the menu where you got parry and enders.
Oh or it could be your lack of spirit or a weapon. Spirit gives you a bonus against you ain't though whether it atk+def or def is another matter. There's also some kats that deal additional damage against yokai/humans or general close combat damage buff.
>>335679303
>Samurai based game
>die if you get sliced by a katana twice
I don't see what's wrong here.
>>335679763
Man I can't believe I missed that. I looked really hard for explanations for it but couldn't find it anywhere in game
>>335677815
It's based off of wrpgs and gearlt cause scars are cool to gaijins.
>>335679937
A lot of things are explained pretty late as you go on and find amrita on dead bodies.
>>335679642
Yeah I'm a little worried about that, didn't even want to bring it up to give anyone the idea but perhaps the actual wording of things will give it away, the way some people complain can be pretty transparent.
>>335679937
Living weapon might be in the second level though the tool tips can have it as well.
>>335679928
Yeah, I've completely filled out everything for hammer and katana mid/high stances. Haven't bothered with low stances yet since I only used it for the dweller things so I could stunlock them and dodge for ki pulse to stay on top of them.
I downloaded the demo knowing nothing about it because katanas and shit and it's just another souls game.
Welp, this shit is not for me.
>>335677926
>>335679741
There you go, I took this right from the title screen.
>>335678025
I've captured the footage of them sparring, I'll get to making a webm of it later.
>>335679642
>>335680031
>Get to the DLC prompt
>558 likes
Jesus christ, I know the likes might not be how many people downloaded it but still, that's REALLY low.
is there a way to see my playtime in the demo? I bet it's over 15h.
>>335680092
Yep that's why your kat damage seems sub-par.
>>335679818
>>picking up your "souls" off your bloodstain where you died previously
>>other player bloodstains
>>bonfi- I mean "shrines"
These are the only things that are actually lifted from Souls. Everything else is basic as shit.
>estus fla- I mean elixers that refill at the "shrines"
And here is where you confirm that you haven't actually played it and are speaking out your arse.
>>335680163
Not them but I thought you always started at 3 when you left a shrine, but found more from enemies.
>>335680125
Well that's about 200 more than when I got to it last night.
>>335680204
Yeah, it's not like Estus shards or anything, additional ones do stack up to 9, but if you burn through those, you're back to 3 if you go to a shrine.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE RED POT/HEALING SPIRIT IN THE FIRST LEVEL I SEARCHED THROUGH IT FOUR TIMES
>>335680204
Yeah maybe? By the time I got to Nue, I regularly had 6 on me every time I prayed. Might be tied to Kodamas perhaps. You can start with more via offering but that's a one and do everything thing.
>>335680246
Damn. Combat's pretty good. But that's expected from Team Ninja,
>>335679073
High stance but be patient
>>335679818
Nice pasta faggot
>>335680239
Ah, so that's what you meant, and it actually stacks up to 10 unless there was something I'm missing, because I was up to ten in the second level and couldn't pick anymore up.
>>335679261
aw, you think it does not.
also,
>theyre
>>335680246
If you change to low stance while you're in attack animation you can take advantage of the dodge stamina recovery with the other two stances.
>>335680406
Oh no, sorry anon, I wasn't the guy you were talking to, that was just my understanding of it.
So should I just give up on getting whetstones? I've been having trouble with the first boss and 2 of my good weapons broke so I went around the entire area twice and did not find one.
Then I offered the random loot I found and did not get one. Is the best way to just be using the random weapons I get instead of repairing?
Also, why is my familiarity not going up with any of the weapons I'm using?
>>335680406
Ten's the cap though you might be able to upgrade your starting amount through some means.
>>335680476
I wish you could pay money or notsouls to repair shit, it's so annoying.
>>335680125
I didn't even notice there was a way to like it or anything, and that's only after they beat the boss so I dunno if I'd really take that as a judge of popularity at least right now.
>>335680476
I don't think familiarity is implemented yet.
>>335680476
I don't think familiarity is implemented at all yet outside of the number and the starting equipment. Also whetstones are the only major complaint I have in the demo, I'm assuming there will be a shop in the main game where you can buy them but if RNG gods want to shit on you, you'll never be able to use your good weapons again.
>>335680612
Can whetstones drop from enemies? I've only seen one from a chest so far.
There's probably going to be a shop-menu at shrines where you'll be able to buy items ( including whetstones and glue ) with gold in the full game. Money is pretty useless in this demo right now.
>>335680764
Yeah they can
>>335680612
I've read that quite a few people (Not just here, either) have been requesting buyable whetstones and glue from the shrine, or basically just having a blacksmith there so you can repair your gear for gold. Though maybe they've already thought of that, since the amount of gold you're getting far exceeds anything you'd be likely to spend it on in the demo.
>>335680764
Yeah, though they're not hugely common.
Did Team Ninja actually make a good game this time ?
Guys what is a ki burst and how do you do it?
>>335680476
Weapons in the beginning aren't all that great, if your broken weapons really can't keep up then swap out, eventually you'll start picking up more and more stuff you can offer while killing everyone and then you'll be rolling in stones. Although if you're really at the first boss you should be getting tons of stuff just killing the people in the village. Maybe you need more equipment that boosts drop rate or something.
As for the familiarity thing I'm not sure, I didn't pay attention to it since no smith in the demo yet but I didn't have problems maxing it out, could be because the weapons are broken.
>>335680989
Woah. Didn't know this was possible.
>>335680906
Here's the best explanation I can give:
When you attack, your stamina essentially does a fighting game bar thing where you have your green bar, a red bar, and your completely depleted stamina. Now when you're done attacking, the red bar will fill up with a "ghost" white bar very quickly, and hitting R1 while the bar is there will give you back that much stamina, but if you don't, you'll lose the red bar of stamina.
>>335680476
Clicking help on the familiarity thing says "Indicates how much you have used an item. The higher your familiarity, the better a chance at finding the Smith Amrita when you disassemble it." That means that disassembling items are a thing, perhaps to get the ability to smith specific pieces of armour. It's unclear right now.
>>335680906
When you do a combo you will see you ki bar drop and part will turn red, then that red part will start to quickly turn white, pressing R1 will instantly get you that white bit of your bar back, instead of your bar having to charge that bit before charging the rest.
Its not anything you really gotta worry about in small fights, but you can tell with quick enemies and groups it will be important.
>get summoned
>host standing int he shrine not moving for 10 mins
>no way to end the session except for dying.
welp here I go to drown myself.
WHAT KIND OF NAME IS WILLIAM FOR A JAP
>>335679873
how much time do you have on your hands
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/anti-denuvo%20fromdrones/
seriously
>>335680842
It's a bit of a silly thing to request really, it's obvious there's going to be a way to buy items and fix your weapons and the game mentions a blacksmith.
>>335680906
After an attack your ki starts to "refill" to a point where it was at before, hit R1 and you instantly recover your ki up to that point, otherwise it'll start to actually refill from where it's really at.
>I don't get how the game works, therefore the mechanics are shit and the game is bad
Literally all the complains that I've seen are like this. Getting 1-2hitKO without armor and with it lasting 3-5 hits makes a LOT of sense. You're a goddamn human being, not a chosen one half-dragon half-angel.
The things I will change is give stamina a different color than Health, fix camara issues and improve the resolution, otherwise it's pretty fucking solid.
>>335681136
that might have been me
when did that happen? now?
>>335681076
so it functions like bloodbornes regain system but its for stamnia and ki bursting allows you to instantly move after an attack so it skips the time between final attack animation>normal standing animation????
>>335681119
Impressive gameplay. The stances make it look more dynamic.
>>335681207
Kind of yeah, I don't know about the animation canceling part though, it might do that but I'm using a katana so it isn't too noticeable if it does or not.
>>335681136
that's why they gave you harakiri sword.
>>335681207
It's not so much like Bloodborne since it doesn't come back from attack but that second part is more or less right yeah, it cancels the very end of the animation and the longer you wait till you cancel it the more ki you get back. It's a lot easier to understand when you just watch the bar and see it done.
How to the "stick forward + X" combo finishers work? Is there a specific timing I'm not getting? Because I'm pulling them off successfully about 10% of the time.
It's overly difficult just for the sake of cashing in on the DaS3 hype. Not a fan of one hit kills.
Anyway, I beat the boss. Is there a reward for beating the second area?
>>335681313
That was me just fucking around when it first came out, didn't really understand the mechanics.
But once you understand things like ki bursts and stance swapping you can pull off some really cool shit.
>>335681445
I've seen someone say that it works like souls kicking mechanics, where it has to be at the same time, and someone else said that they also had better luck when they hold X.
>>335681462
you mean like bonus DLC? no.
but the 2nd boss drops an amazing lightning katana.
>>335681445
>>335681512
Also much easier on bigger enemies since you run up them.
>>335681186
yeah, the username looked like japanese though.
>>335681445
You need to be close to your opponent I've found, really close for the katana one. Next time I play I'll probably experiment more with landing them but that seemed to be the deal with them.
>>335681567
>lightning katana
pic related.
>>335681462
I did. Thanks.
>>335681462
Stop showing the enemy your back. Back attack damage is insane in this.
>>335681462
>Cashing in on DaS3 hype
>Game isn't coming out for awhile
Yeah totally. Also what one hit kills are people even talking about? Is everyone just not wearing armor or are they not realizing that you need stats to equip certain armors and that you don't get the bonuses when you don't?
>tfw you finally git gud and game is easy
I want to take it back, I want to struggle again.
>>335681639
was meant for: >>335681567
>>335681627
>>335681697
Just wait til the full game. Imagine the weapon variety and all the possible yokai.
>>335680764
Offer items to the shrine to get tons of them.
>>335681512
>>335681576
>>335681593
Yeah, holding X works a bit better but it's still unreliable as fuck. And you really don't want this specific move to come out unreliably because you'll end up dashing right into the enemy and his attacks.
>>335681653
Could you stop using logic? Thanks.
>>335681790
And all the new combos + spells.
Fuck this is the hypest game of 2016.
>>335681840
When are you doing it? I was able to do it pretty consistently after two light attacks. Yokai mid-attack were the only thing to really hinder the ender but it's better done from the flank on them.
The menu seems to imply that you can have different combo enders depending on the combo.
I guess that's something we'll see in the full game?
>>335681950
The irony in that pic is so strong, because the game gives you exactly that from the start.
This is a gold mine. But it still makes me mad how people can be this stupid.
>>335682110
You can learn skills and there are a few combo finishers in the demo.
>>335682110
Possibly. I know the kitana can change their triangle or one of their enders to be an aoe stun if you get the skill. Not sure about axe or spear.
>>335677850
I asked them to make the game easier. I am tired of try hard pretentious games. I dont have time to learn all these stupid mechanics. I just want to have fun.
:^)
Does anyone knows the difference between the katanas? I noticed there's two different icons for katanas but i was about to leave so i couldn't check if there was any difference.
>First enemy was easy, but can't figure out how to get past #2 & 3.
I thought people were joking when they said they can't get past the beach.
>>335679538
What do you mean in cleanses the enviroment?
I hope Team Ninja just looks at the shitters and go "we're not changing anything". And in the end, these shitters will learn and praise the mechanics instead.
Then comes the new "hard game" and the process continues.
>>335682192
Yeah, but you can only have one combo ender active at the time.
The katana can either have aoe stun or kick, but I'd like to have for example square+triangle be aoe stun and square+square+triangle be kick, isn't possible.
>>335682059
I mean, you don't need an enemy to practice the move, you can pull it off just slicing air. I honestly just don't get it.
>>335682372
those gray zones yokai put down slows your stamina regen, doing Ki pulse will remove them.
>Turns out Dark Souls was not as hardcore as these people thought
>>335682379
>And in the end, these shitters will learn and praise the mechanics instead
Hahahahahaha, that was a nice joke m8.
>>335682294
need to have it hotkeyed so you can save your honor in a pinch.
Everyone complaining about difficulty should fucking kill themselves.
>>335682371
geez there people, learn ninjutsu and thow a suriken at one
>>335682372
You'll see it more with yokai but they can drop these zones of monochrome that stunt your stamina regen. You do a pulse and the zone disappears. All of Nue's lightning drops leave monochrome zones.
>>335681653
I finished the demo and 9 out of 10 Bloodstains were all in lvl 1. People dont know they can level in the shrine and activate skills.
>>335677764
Yasuke, an African, became one of Nobunaga's retainers in the 1500's.
>>335682371
>Literally a corpse with 3 rocks before the 2 people.
>Well don't know what these are for, lets go fight these guys 2v1
What's funny is you don't even need the rock, you can easily pull the first guy without getting the second one.
Like what the fuck, how have you played a souls game and not understand what the fuck a rock would do.
Can't blame people for trying to play it like a Souls game since it borrows so heavily from them.
>Watching streams and youtube walkthroughs
>All these dumb shits running out of stamina and getting punished when they stop to take a breath
>Waaahh this is too hard
These retards are all spamming attack and dodges like it was Ninja Gaiden or Dark Souls.
>William is a master of the katana just from his Japanese blood
So this is the power of yamato damashii......
>>335682549
I've seen level 15's on the beach.
THE BEACH
>>335682713
"Playing it like souls" should mean managing your stamina, being patient and taking time to learn the mechanics. People complaining arent doing any of that.
>>335682810
I know I fight revenants a whole lot when I start fresh, could have been me.
>finally beat the Oni in the boat village after almost 50 triesGod, I love this game already.
>>335682810
I came back to the first level after killing Nue at level 38 to practice parrying and got killed. Don't judge.
>>335682924
Souls games usually don't have one hit kills though.
>>335683146
you wont die from one hit if you're wearing armor
>an alpha build of this game has better PvP than dark souls ever had
Pottery
>>335683146
If the net's to be believed bosses do, whole the enemies just stun lock you to death
I think the biggest problem in the game is that it tries to be realistic in some aspects and totally unrealistic in others in a way that makes it feel really annoying. You die from a few hits and your stamina depletes after a few hits while the enemies take twice as many hits and use less stamina per hit.
>>335683269
Get out of high stance.
>>335682327
Please respond
>>335683213
Samurai and many of the demons can one shot you while in full armor.
Damage output is out of control.
>>335683336
Doesn't matter. Even low stance and mid stance drain stamina HARD. I've pumped shitloads into KI and between dodging, blocking, and attacking William is gasping for air in moments.
The game is fucked and adjustments to the values have to be made behind the scenes.
>>335683393
Yeah. In Souls games you are incredibly fragile and die in a few hits, but so do most enemies. It's a bit strange here that enemies kill you incredibly easily but you are comparitively very weak.
>>335683473
Are you doing ki bursts? Because it sounds like you're not.
>>335683473
wat. Katana Low-stance + Ki burst dodges means you'll be comboing for an eternity.
>>335683269
>>335683473
Please, the axe wielding mooks swing like retards and exhaust themselves in 2 swings while you can swing at least 3 times and can regain your Ki with Ki burst. Look at this Webm for some guy dicking around and not mastering the system yet.>>335681119
NEW THREAD
>>335682735
>>335682382
Ahh, I haven't looked into the combos that much, but if it isn't there you can try suggesting it in the survey. After all it is in alpha.
>>335683504
Case in point: The second area.
Nearly every fucking demon in there takes forever and a day to kill. Even the little grey fags that crawl on the ground will halve your HP with two hits.
The transforming kid demons? I don't even bother. They can two shot William while it takes him ages to kill them even with a buffed 302 attack Axe using High Stance.
>>335683725
>233 posts
>new thread
>>335682382
You can do that. I can't remember which tab but that's totally possible. You can even set different finishers for different stances.
>>335681119
KI Burst makes no sense.
That needs to be removed from the game or incorporated into some other button. Pressing R1 randomly while also having fingers on L1, face buttons, analog sticks is retarded.
>>335683867
Oh? I tried that in the menu but it changed all of them.
Maybe I did it wrong? I guess I'll test some more.
>>335682924
This is not a Souls games.
Souls games aren't this punishing outside of SL1 runs.
No Souls first boss is as hard relative to the player as Oniryoki.
No Souls game has the first dozen enemies one-shot you.
No Souls game has such minuscule stamina gains per point invested.
Most people still dont know you deal double damage if you attack them from behind, you can exhaust their fatigue for finishers and deal massive damage as well as parry them.
>x is confirm, o is back out in menus
>o is interact in the main world
Why?
>>335683658
Low stance is a waste of fucking time. 2 slashes in mid will do more damage than a dozen in low, and for less stamina too.
>>335684061
And thank god for that. Dark Souls 3 felt stale and boring as shit. I want something new and this is great.
>>335684073
Most people don't read the menu tips or the amrita memories. Those same people will complain about things not being explained.
>>335684073
>Most people still dont know you deal double damage if you attack them from behind, you can exhaust their fatigue for finishers and deal massive damage as well as parry them.
Due to the way lock on works, most people will never find out because of lock on + the enemies are on a fucking lazy susan.
By the time you exhaust any worthwhile enemy's fatigue, you will be exhausted too. I've tried everything on the Samurai in the 2nd area. Doesn't work. It's better to wait for him to exhaust himself with high stance memeshit.
Attempting to parry in a game swinging from 60 to 20 fps and back again at all times is a fool's errand.
>>335683952
Nigga you just press R1 when finish the attack animation.
>>335684248
Amirate memories don't mention KI Burst or explain it well.
KI Burst also doesn't work properly. Why the fagging fuck would you stand in a Yokai zone flailing your fucking sword to clear it? It doesn't make sense at ALL, not even in-universe.
>>335684140
Less people would have problems with the bosses if they'd actually use the superior Low stance dodge, so there's that.
>>335684340
Doesn't work reliably. Same thing with parries. Anything dependant on timing in a game whose frames are being rendered (randomly) at anything from 16.6ms to 33.33ms or worse makes timing nigh-impossible.
Also, attempting to parry in a game where everything and their mom 2 shots you is fucking stupid.
Sounds like something Farron Greatsword users would do.
Anyone know where my last Kodama could be on stage 2? I've killed every single enemy and still cannot find the little shit.
>>335677548
Still have to fight Nue. Wish me luck.
>>335682537
Me on the right
>>335684401
Now this I'll agree with. The only worthwhile thing in Low Stance is that sweet evasion. Pretty sure it has better i-frames than the other two.
I didn't need anything more than simple running in the Nue fight, though. It's the Oniryoki fag that necessitated things like that. What a godawful fight.
>added game to my PSN account last night
>26 hours later it hasn't even started downloading
What is this "rest mode" for then?
>>335684374
It's the only way to clear it to stop the Youkai from regaining his KI shield when you run outta Charms. The game rewards you if you play aggressive as fuck like Bloodborne.
>>335684481
You don't have to even time it unless you want a perfect KI burst. Just mash R1 when you have 0 stamina and you will recover enough to avoid the depletion mechanic.
>>335684481
You get a visual cue telling you when to press the button...can't get much more reliable than PRESS BUTTON NOW
>>335684512
Nue is much easier than you think.
When he shakes, he's going to drop for lightning bolts (that WILL kill you). Simply run (not even X is necessary) in a direction with no obstructions.
When he runs up to breath lighting at you, run away from his mouth. It has surprisingly long range.
When he's really far off, do not approach. He'll roll across the stage dropping lightning bolts behind him.
Every so often he's hurl himself on the ground. Go around to his belly/ribcage and slash at it. Get 4-5 slashes in and retreat. Make sure you have the stamina to do so.
Rinse and repeat. Beat him on my 3rd try.
Who /minmax/ here?
>>335684672
You need to start downloading for it to actually download.
>>335684882
enjoy not being able to use any weapons
>>335684882
Jesus m80
>>335677548
>survey
>letting the lowest common denominator influence the game's design
I put the difficulty as very bad.
>>335684882
I have 20 dex, and that's actually the perfect amount to have 12 fire shurikens. Those things are amazing as tools to even fights out or just to use as a starter and chew through their health faster. It's even nicer because you're not penalized on your weapon skills either because you still get Samurai points.
>>335684882
I put a bunch of points into skill, then I realized my sword wasn't scaling with it put some points into heart. I hate leveling up in these games when I don't fully understand the stats and what they affect.
>>335685168
You can press the option button for help. In anycase, almost all weapons scale with at least 3 other stats so you will have some effect.
>>335684769
>>335684512
>When he runs up to breath lighting at you, run away from his mouth. It has surprisingly long range.
When he does this go to his left, smack him in his face and he'll lose his hyper armour and become stagger-able. Then you can just keep hitting him until you're out of Ki.
Cheese method for instant win:
>Take the water spirit
>Do the above method then summon your spirit
>Never stop hitting square (the spirit gauge will keep re-filling)
GG you win.
>>335682223
play something else, fucking faggot
Had does ki burst work?
>>335685496
>>335684769
Nice desu
Thanks.
Time Seals are so good, the Yokai barely pose a threat anymore. I was pleasantly surprised to see they work on bosses, based Team Ninja.
>Vocal Soulsfags ruin a potentially good NG clone
The stamina bar just ruins it.
I dunno bros, I've platinumed all the Souls games so I would consider myself a veteran of games like this but this one is just unfairly difficult it seems. Enemies pretty much just one shot you and if you pull more than 2 or so at a time you are just completely fucked. I think the game has potential though, going to suggest lowering the difficulty on the survey and hope enough other people do the same to give this game a chance at being good.
>>335685649
Mash R1.
It does... something. The game doesn't bother explaining it all that well.
>>335677548
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29=
so when can we get a game with a protagonistst based off of a black samurai?
inb4 afro samurai
>>335685991
Your stamina bar has two drains, one is totally drained, the other is red bar stamina. When you're done attacking, the red bar quickly fills up with a "ghost" white stamina, and pushing R1 will give you that much stamina based on how long you let it fill up of the red bar. If you don't do anything, you lose the red bar of stamina.
>>335685940
>I dunno bros, I've platinumed all the Souls games so I would consider myself a veteran of games
If you platinumed Bloodborne, this game wouldn't be considered "unfair" to you.
>>335686050
When Snoop declares the Japanese his honorary niggas.
>>335686050
You mean like this guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke
Mite be cool
>>335685649
>>335685991
I think that's when you time your R1 just right to get all of your Ki you just used back instantly.
When you do this it gets rid of those dark patches that Yokai/Oni create. (These dark patches slow your Ki recovery down a shitload, if you stand in them)
>>335685649
Whenever you attack, it drains your stamina bar
The second you stop attacking, the portion that was drained starts to fill in. If you hit R1 at any point during this, you instantly regain as much stamina as had filled in at that point
If you wait to long and it fills in all the way, though, then the portion that you had just used disappears again, and then you start regaining stamina back normally
So you want to wait to hit R1 until it's as full as possible without losing all of it, or else you're stuck without as much of it as you could be
>all this crying about difficulty
>finally a game with swordfighting that actually feels like swordfighting and each battle is like an actual battle yet bitches be complaining about having to git gud
Maybe if you faggots stopped trying to play this like a souls game and realized that despite the similarities, this game has it's own learning curve, you wouldn't be getting your ass handed to you so hard and getting so booty blasted.
>>335685649
At the end of an attack animation you'll see blue around your dude. Press r1 when they gather around you the most and you shine a bright light and get back some stamina.
>>335685613
How about you go and fuck yourself? Why does this game have to be ultra hard for special snowflakes such as yourself? Games are about having fun not some badge to wear and show everyone how good you are at a fucking video game. Go outside and get a job you piece of shit. I hope this game gets a huge difficulty nerf.
>>335684495
Did you check in the corner of the large building where the two little bastards that turn into ogres are? Its hidden between a wall and the back of a shrine.
>>335686239
Isn't this almost word-for-word what Brianna Wu was saying when he had a hissy fit over Bloodborne?
>>335686239
>>335682223
Fuck off, faggot. Go play Halo.
>>335686239
If you think this game is hard you're an extreme casual, either that or you're trying to play it like a souls game.
>>335686185
Y'know I like Souls, I really do. But the community around it is just becoming cancerous. Doesn't help that I genuinely think that this is better than Dark Souls 3 so far.
>>335686095
Thats what I find hilarious about all this. You can tell the people complaining are Souls PC fags.
>>335680297
Behind the mansion, down the rock crevice and break the boxes
>>335686371
Which is strange because they aren't even getting this game.
>>335686358
I am on the same boat. I was bored playing DaS3 yesterday invading and doing PVP because the PVE is so god damn easy. Then I played this yesterday and was hooked. Getting to the second checkpoint shrine was a huge fun satisfying challenge.
>>335686095
I would rather do the cursed chalice dungeon again than try to get through even just the first area of this artificial difficulty bullshit.
>>335686465
Just like Bloodborne they complain about games they have never played. To this day there are people still complaining about the 15 minutes load time.
>>335679873
Yeah I liked it
>>335684374
Yes they do. I didn't know about ki burst until I encountered the corresponding memory. There's a second one as well although that one is a bit hidden (to the right of the house where you encounter the first demon).
>>335686564
Pretty sad, to spend one's days baiting away at anonymous posters.
>>335686185
Funny how its ok for dark souls to be hard but when it comes to this game its suddenly bullshit and not fair. You can tell they just mashed in dark souls too. They tell you "git gud" all the time, but once they play something that they aren't familiar with they start shitting on it.
>>335685991
>The game doesn't bother explaining it all that well
I can't understand this argument. Just don't be retarded, really. I started the game, i attacked nothing and noticed something on the stamina bar going back up, that's enough for you to think "i can do something to regain part of it", next i tried to see if you could combine stance combos and there it is, ki burst, tried to dodge cancel with the stances, dodge ki burst with low stance, everything before the first enemy. If you are retarded and just rush to the enemy before trying shit you should consider finding a new hobby.
>>335686716
Plus there's a tutorial section in the menu that explains all the game's mechanics.
>>335679201
>not picking it up at launch
I love this because it implies that even if he's shitting on it he's gonna buy it anyway
PS4 really is starved for games
>>335686716
>>335686746
Could you delete this? Stop using logic for fucks sake. Its artificial difficulty
>>335679201
>artificial difficulty
I love Souls games and all but this game isn't remotely artificial compared to fucking DS 3 where there's evangelists everywhere just for the sake of "git gud" meme.
>>335677548
any relation with onimusha or tenchu?
imo jap creepy > west/gothic creepy
>>335686716
This. I like experimenting with the games mechanics. I'd rather have a little explanation and test it out while playing than having a 30 minute tutorial or just reading paragraphs telling me how ki works.
>>335686716
Maybe the game could include a tutorial. If the mechanic is going to be useful or even vital in some fights, the game should explain it to the player, not just hope they happen upon it experimenting against the first enemies in the game.
>>335686856
There's some Onimusha influence in there (The devs said at TGS that 2 served as a big influence on them), but no, it's not related.
I hope the full game will have proper item-switching. Right now you have 2 slots for items (Elixirs are a main-stay obviously) which isn't nearly enough.
>>335677548
Can we customize our character or is it set ?
>>335687052
You can change the outfit, but not the character.
I wonder if it'll only be based after Adams. I want to play female and dress up as Himiko.
>>335687084
All right
>>335687120
>>335687084
The mission select screen has Adams in what seems to be a character select pose. Plus, there's developer NPC that has a different face model so probably that.
>>335687120
I feel like there may be another character due to how the character art is on the mission select screen
>>335686676
The thing is the Souls series doesn't actually require much skill, it just requires getting past the learning curve and not being completely retarded and planning well.
Nioh however actually adds more skill into the mix so these people that think they were hot shit because they beat the "super ultra difficult 1337 MLG pro" Souls games get a rude awakening when thinking they can just roll up into Nioh and gank shit left and right.
Ironically the people saying git gud didn't actually git gud, they just got/were smarter than 100% retarded.
>get pissed fighting Nue
>summon a guy
>Nue does the lightning attack
>guy just keeps attacking the boss while I stand under cover and dies instantly
>now have to fight powered up version of the boss
Thanks friend
>>335677548
Not even japanese games about japan can now escape the middle aged grizzled caucasian male protagonist.
Pretty weird.Inb4 he really existed; sure, but why make the game about a froeigner guy whose only connection to an action game was becoming a samurai. He was a goddamn bureaucrat, not a warrior.
>>335687385
Get over yourself. Nioh is just the same. It's all about memorization, just the same as the Souls games.
>>335687694
William Adam's story is interesting and the Nips like it.
It's also a nice theme, a foreign guy just coming into Japan and kicking Oni ass
>>335687694
>muh white hair
You don't read manga or watch anime ? White haired characters are cool because they are CURSED and SUFFER but are STRONG andI love it
>>335687786
Go back to /dsg/ you whiny faggot.
>>335687813
Best example of this is Kaneki.
>>335687967
Isn't it ?
>>335686290
Sorry bout the late reply senpai. I found it before you mentioned in exactly where you said! thanks.
Seriously been summoning on the first level for like 15 minutes.
What, you assholes got something better to do? Second playthrough, come on, just fuck around or something.
>>335687516
>Summon a dude
>Old Irishman or something like that
>He jus goes to town on the thing
>Go full shark and join the party
Can Samubros use spirit force too?
Cause I think he stunlocked the shit outta that thing.
>>335688053
Yeah, they can.
>>335687786
If you played through the demo by dodge poking at everything, then you have missed out close to 80% of the game cause the advance mechanics are about Ki Bursting, stance switching, Ki pressuring and breaking the Yokai's Ki shield so you can unleash your fury on their stunlocked ass.
>>335688247
I didn't most of my damage was parries and face stabs after exhausting their stamina. I focused on mid stance katana with a sub focus on high stance katana.
>>335688046
>First boss had like 8 times the health and three times the damage
Pfthahaha what.
Well whatever, Khang dude, we went out in style.
Is there a trick to the first phase of the boat boss that I'm not getting? the few times i got past it i nearly killed him as the second phase is incredibly easy, but seems if i do anything but 1 hit then run i will get completely wrecked by his spin attack that he seems to always do after his smash.
>>335685118
>I put the difficulty as very bad.
Thanks, we here at team ninja really value your opinion. We understand that the difficulty is not for everyone in the gaming world. We'll tone down the difficulty for our fans!
:^)
I both love and hate the headshot mechanic with bows. It's nice to be able to kill mobs easily like that, but it's incredibly annoying with how hard it can be to line it up, it's even worse than in souls games.
How the fuck do i regain stamina mid-combo.
I honestly cant fucking understand the mechanism behind it
>>335688724
R3 to zoom in.
>>335688590
Low-stance dodge gets oodles of i-frames and really efficient stamina drain on attacks
>>335688745
Yeah i know you can do that and it helps a bit, it's still pretty bad though. But i guess there's not an awful lot they can do, controllers are just not made for that kind of precise aiming.
>>335688724
R3 to zoom in, also yes its a bit too sensitive, controllers are not made for precision aiming. The hitboxes with bows is quite big in this which counters this.
>>335688726
You can't. You recover after a combo. Notice a red bar in your stamina that represents the lost stamina? Now there's also a paler white one that starts filling up immediately after you stop the combo. Pressing R1 will recover the white bar but letting it cross the Red portion will lose everything, so if you spam Ki burst you only recover a little but timing it gives you alot. Or you might just need a little to dodge out of the way.
>>335688590
Use Low stance to dodge to his back then wail on him in Middle Stance. When he starts spinning, just block instead of dodging.
I died so many times to the first 3 enemies all my stuff broke. I don't know what to do...
>>335678339
After playing both I actually preferred it over the "action" mode.
Action mode's framerate was all over the place and in addition to that the image was blurry as fuck.
Movie mode framerate was shit, but at least it was a stable shit with nice image quality.
Are there any logic to what koei temco port to PC?
-Dynasty warrior games - omega force
-bladestorm nightmare - omega force
-tokidan - omega force
-romance of 3 kingdoms - ???
-DOA5 - team ninja
Considering their track record. This might show up on PC after a year or two....but then again
>>335689178
Here is a secret. Unequip your weapon, hold block button with your fists and press square. That is a clapping parry. You can 1 shot all the starting low level enemies and get new loot.
>>335689298
SW4-II released pretty fast on PC after the console release, maybe even at the same time, not sure.
>>335689298
they just roll dice
>>335689047
Hmm seems to help with killing him faster at least, got into last phase and died at like 5% now, although i pretty much did it by just tanking the damage, as the spin seemed to go through the block.
>>335689298
After DOA5 on PC brought nude modes, they will not do that on principle and they outright stated that.
>co-op on first level
>either I die immediately to the boss or the host does
I can't keep a straight face at how broken this is.
>>335689447
You'll have to upgrade your block skill or save more KI for blocking then. Are you using your Guardian Spirit super? Activate it when the boss has no KI to stunlock it into oblivion.
I am seeing a lot of people ask about what is Ki Burst and what does it do so I made a webm to help because while the game does mention it, it doesnt do it well.
Look at the stamina bar on the top left. When I attack it turns red. That is stamina pending for regen. If I do not press R1 that red will turn white and then it will refill SLOWLY. But if I press R1 when it turns white I will instantly recover that stamina. So you have to time it to get a lot of stamina back or little. Watch the stamina bar closely.
Seriously people, use the fucking Low Stance, and you get enough quick dodging and i-frames and stamina to fuck bosses up easily.
Instead, trying to Hulk Smash everything and then complaining about no stamina is a theme.
Here: http://www.bilibili.com/video/av4480648/
What to do in the second phase of the first boss.
He just keeps throwing those balls at me and doing some long ass combos.
There is literally no opening for me and my axe.
>>335689178
It's not broken, it's just dull. You can actually still make good progress with a dull weapon.
>>335689298
Team Ninja experimented with PC and didn't like it and Koei has always let their studios do whatever they want
The NPC mound guy in the cave in the first area doesn't fuck around holy fuck
>>335689650
>have to active reload your fatigue or else you're fucked
great, nothing i love more than focusing on a bar filling up but not too much while also trying not to die in combat!
>>335689652
Low stance a shit on Katana. Mid stance is perfect. High stance is good for demons.
>>335689652
That looked so cool.
>>335689298
A few months before TGS, Verendus on NeoFAG (Who has a pretty spotless record with calling Sony-related shit) said that KT were doing a legit PS4 exclusive under Sony. Would that have been Nioh, or is something else in the works or been annoucned recently that he would've been talking about?
>>335689824
>being bad at video games
Is the same shit as Gears of War reloading. And this guy in the video >>335689652
doesn't seem to have a hard time with it.
>>335689298
Omega Force only ports their games, Team Ninja and Gust hates PC.
>>335689568
>hosts brings me on to deal with dual-wielding Yoki then immediately gets combo'd to death by it.
This fucking co-op.
Also
>try to whistle at the host to take this back path instead of taking on the two archers at the start head-on
>they charge forth anyway
Can they even hear the whistles?
>>335689650
You can use ki burst dodging as well. Normal dodging does not have i-frames but ki burst dodging does. If you time it correctly it will be really hard to get hit.
>>335689654
Break his KI bar, you can kick him a few times and then go crazy on him.
>>335689835
You can cancel any attack from any stance into a Low Stance dodge recovery. Plus katana has a lowstance grapple and is the fastest lowstance in the game.
>random bandit retard flails his katana for 1200 damage
DUDE DARK SOULS LMAO
>>335678838
Why are these people playing so reactionary? It's as if they think they're wielding a shield they can hide behind or something. Take offensive.
>>335689835
You got that completely wrong. High Stance is the worst for demons, because the yokai field drains your stamina, which is in low supply in High stance already.
>>335677670
This is the only big fault I have with the game.
>>335690196
Use the block button retard. You take 0 damage and they get stunned for a second while you recover stamina WHILE blocking.
>>335677548
Posting in both threads >>335682735
Right you fuckers here's some basic shit, because some of you are too stupid to figure these things out.
>Ki Blast: When you attack watch your Ki bar. It'll start to fill up white quite fast, if you hit R1(Stance button) during this time you'll INSTANTLY get that amount of Ki back. If you get it perfect i.e. get all your stamina you used back, you do a Ki blast which gets rid of the dark flame patches that Yokia/Oni put down(Standing in these patches will severely reduce Ki recovery).
>(Note this is for Katanas, figure the other weapon stances out on your own. Most of it is shared)
>High Stance: Slow attacks, high damage, high Ki usage, only get one roll
>Medium Stance: Balanced speed, damage, and Ki usage, able to parry, get 2 dodges (quick step into roll).
>Low stance: Low damage and Ki usage, fast attacks, dodges have the same effect as Ki blast (yes you can get stamina back by dodging), get 2 dodges.
>SWITCH FUCKING STANCES AND WEAPONS WHEN NEEDED. YES EVEN IN MID COMBAT IT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR.
>When enemies are out of Ki (Their bar is red). Hitting them will make them stumble, after that press triangle and you'll do a special attack for major damage. Katanas have this immediately, while Spears and (I think) Axes have to unlock this.
>L1 IS FUCKING GUARD, USE IT. HOLY SHIT.
>X IS DODGE, USE THAT TOO. But be aware that dodging has very little (if any) invincibility frames. YES YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DODGE/GET OUT OF THE WAY OF ATTACKS RATHER THAN ABUSE I-FRAMES LIKE SOULS.
>When you get hit, guard recovers faster than dodge. So mash/hold L1(guard) instead of mashing X(dodge).
>Back attacks deal MAJOR damage(this applies to you too). Keep your back protected, while trying to hit enemies in the back.
>Donate your excess shit to the shrine. You can get items such as: Elixers, glue, and whetstones. You can even bulk donate shit under certain rarities that you set.
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>>335690132
You should also show that on some combo moves you ki burst as well, notable examples include both the high spear and high axe triangle combos. If you pause before pressing triangle you can recover a lot of stamina.
>>335690253
You need to hit them already, my magic axe man also resists the fuck out of Yokai Fields though, so there's that.
>>335690196
Try not to get hit by a flailing retard with a sharp fucking sword eh
>>335677725
>it doesn't automatically jump to the next one.
Why would you want this though? If I kill somebody and want to target a specific enemy the game will just fuck me over with turning the camera to the one enemy I dont want to attack.
I have this turned off in DaS3.
>>335690240
Yeah that's what you gotta learn. I played it conservatively as well the first hour or so in until I realized going offensive yields better results.
>>335690160
>You can cancel any attack from any stance into a Low Stance dodge recovery.
I just never needed to.
>>335690253
Except, I am not standing in the field. I am keeping my distance, baiting a whiff then punishing with a high stance heavy.
>>335689575
Pretty sure i'm not able to use my guardian spirit, don't you need to attack a lot to charge it up or something? And maybe i should go grind mobs and level up but i'd rather not do that. Is level 13 too low for the boss?
>>335690376
>You can obtain new moves when you level up. Check your menu it'll have and exclamation mark on it.
>Hell just check out YOUR FUCKING MENU. YES ALL THE TABS, READ WHAT THEY FUCKING DO.
>The circle in the top left is your guardian. When it's full you can press Triangle+Circle to summon a living weapon. During this time you do more damage and have a special move tied to triangle(you an charge this). You're health and Ki is replaced by another continuously depleting bar. Using Ki and getting hit will deplete this bar faster. YOU CANNOT DIE WHILE IN THIS MODE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN CHARGE IN THINKING YOU'RE HOT SHIT.
>If you don't have a guardian in the top left. This is most likely because you died. Retrieving your shit, dying again, or recalling it at a shrine(you will lose your stuff that it was protecting) will get your guardian back.
WHEN A NEW THREAD GETS MADE POST THIS, ADD TO IT WHATEVER.
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>>335690420
It feels smoother to me just moving the right stick to the enemy I do want to attack after killing one than re-pressing for a new lock on. I got used to it after a while though.
>>335690109
I think gestures aren't working in the demo. As in other players can't see your gestures.
why is geralt in Japan ?
>>335682467
It's not really that as much as people are locked into that familiar gameplay routing. Yeah, Nioh is obviously inspired by Souls games but it's also much more offensive in how you're supposed to be playing the game. And rotating your stances as appropriate.
Holy shit, how do you fight multiple people in this game?
I can obliterate people one on one but once I get than three people (I'm referencing a specific area in the starting place) I get shit on.
denced in building with the guy praying
>>335690376
>>335690556
Having played through the demo quite a bit, something i don't understand is what the elemental status' do. I understand fire (it's pretty obvious) but what does Earth, Lightning, Water and Wind do to people? I see the effects apply but I don't really notice anything.
Also killing enemies refreshes that bar during Living Weapon.
>>335690470
Go away Lucifer Jesus.
Wait, Luci is playing this too? Fuck this I am not buying it anymore.
>>335690308
>>335690381
>people actually defend it
>>335690675
How's it feel to have autism?
>>335690240
>Why are these people playing so reactionary?
Because games like this tend to reward reactionary play, so people start playing this one with the same expectations.
You still can anyway. I personally like to start combos with a parry because of the high damage and because it leaves you in an advantageous position.
>>335690675
Sorry, mate. I have good taste so I tend to play all the good games. Don't worry though. There is plenty of shovel ware that I won't touch. Please enjoy it.
>>335690712
>People point out how you're retarded
>S-s-stop defending it.
>>335690657
You're not meant to storm the gate (Well, unless you're really good). Go around the sides.
I fucking love these threads. It reminds me of Dark Souls 1 when it launched for PC. Nothing but whining and bitching over this and that being unfair.
>Muh Seath
>Muh Mimics
>Muh Sens Fortress traps I cant see
>>335690663
I think lightning gives some kind of paralyzing effect making enemies slower.
>>335677951
>>335677815
>Known in Japan as Miura Adams
>Miura
>Berserk
It all makes sense.
Also,
>You will never be bros with Ieyasu.
>>335690712
I guess you never played Onimusha either.
>>335690876
I felt dumb after going back and figuring out the cliff lets you slip into the back of the house
>>335690570
How inconvenient.
Well I managed to help a player get to the second shrine!
Yoki are also buffed in co-op. Nigger one-shot me.
>>335690876
i figured as much but i was too stubborn
>>335690663
>Fire
Continuous damage over time
>Earth
Drains stamina/Hyper armour on Yokai/Oni. I think it can also lead into poison as well but not sure. (Could been another effect on my weapon).
>Lightning
Slows down your/enemies speed e.g. makes attacks slower, run slower etc.
>Water and Wind.
No idea, not yet anyway.
>>335690308
Also important, mid stance recovers stamina while guarding and moving, low stance only recovers if you guard while standing in place, not sure about high stance.
>>335691005
Earth makes sense now, I realize I fucked the shit out of the oni in the mansion with it.
>>335677548
Played a bit today, like an idiot I went full armor up to 98% weight which made the first boss hard. The second I went under 70% I could actually attack him with next to no chance of getting hit.
Use the slow magic to make him even easier, if you get enough of those talismans that fight becomes retard tier easy mode.
Wow what a game, played it for 10 minutes and hated it, then picked it up again for 20 and still hated it, gave it another shot and loved it. It has a really steep learning curve.
Once you realise its not a souls combat game but a souls everything else game you will finally learn to love it. Just killed Nue in 50 seconds was a fun fight.
>>335690196
I watched my friend who considers himself a hardcore gamer play the first part of this demo, he complained the game was artificial difficulty because of how the stamina and damage works, and from observation Im almost certain that the people complaining about difficulty are doing these things;
>holding block constantly which stops stamina gain
>running around in a fight instead of walking, running exposes your back and you take extra damage from even the sleightest attack
>trying to spam healing when close to the enemy
>spamming attacks, even when the combo has ended and nothing is actually happening so they end up just standing there waiting to get hit
>trying to attack enemies when they are in mid swing
>running out of stamina and then spamming dodge or attack which makes you tire and exposes you to damage, you are suppose to back off when you have no stamina, not fucking try to attack more or dodge with no stamina
All of these things are not unfair mechanics the enemy is using against you, these are all player made problems. Get use to the way the combat works instead of trying to just wing it and complain its not fair. This is like playing a racing game and not slowing down on a corner to take it, then complaining the game has shit controls because YOU arent playing the game by its rules.
I have no idea of what stat to level to deal more damage. I want to main spears. Skill or Dex? The game descriptions are vague as fuck.
>>335691091
>those orbs
Ok so its confirmed this is an onimusha game right?
>>335691276
It shows you what they do when you queue the points in, just dont confirm it.
>>335679581
If you killed all enemies in 1-2 attacks from the beginning the game would be a joke.
If the protag knew what he was doing he wouldn't even get hit by anything while whipping the peasants and demons assholes.
I really hate how the first boss has 2 spins that look almost exactly the same, where one can be blocked and the other can't, i just can't get past phase 1 without burning through all my healing items, and then i die around 5-20%.
>>335691276
Can you even increase your damage in this? I thought those stats were just to equip certain weapons.
So is these an easy way to deal with these demon dudes? I'm in the burning village and the second demon that pops up on the roof of the huts is becoming a thorn in my side. It seems they just eat weapon hits for days, even heavy attacks.
>>335691320
I fucking love orbs in video games.
>kingdom hearts - kill tons of enemies, walk around absorbing orbs
>onimusha - kill tons of enemies, hold button and absorb orbs
>Legacy of Kin - hold button to absorb orb souls
Its just satisfying.
My only complaint is when you run out of Ki while sprinting, you stop like you're fucking glued to the floor
>>335691268
The only thing unfair is the amount of enemy damage. There are too many one shots early on.
I am pretty sure they just cranked the difficulty and added a DLC to it to get buzz going for the game. (It worked.)
>>335691320
>onimusha invented orbs
>>335691476
That only happens if you do any button action after running out of ki. If you just keep moving you wont get grounded.
>>335691428
Mid-Sword stance, run past him, don't even both dodging, his overhand will miss and turn and swing, then sprint away, you can do this for the entire fight.
>>335691428
If you can stomach leveling, get ninjutsu up and get fire stars, If you get 2 levels into it you usually can skip the first phase and blow off his horns giving a free hit.
Or if you don't wanna grind, run around and goad his double overhead swing, free slap to the ass for that one if you arent above 70% armor weight.
>>335690924
Can you imagine if Demon Souls wasn't released till now and had the hype the Souls series does now?
So much butthurt.
>>335691428
The first boss? He is pretty easy. Just watch for the ball slams. Dodge towards the arm he is not swinging with. Then break his horns to stun him and do as much damage as you can.
The just poke him down until his HA breaks then activate you super move and spam light attack until he dies.
>Put the game in action mode
>That big framerate improvement
This should be a standard in every video game.
This game is great. This combat is fucking smooth as silk once you get past the learning curve. I've been dicking around in PvP for about 2 hours now and have had a blast. The stance system really helps you predict opponents moves and prepare and counter them. A lot of people don't know about Ki bursts yet so its mostly short skirmishes and then breaks in PvP fights but once people learn about them the PvP gets a lot more high skill and you can trade blows for upwards of a minute without pause.
The fact that this is just an alpha makes me even more excited for this game.
>>335691568
My problem with it is it happens because you are holding X, it should just auto-stop sprinting instead and then stun you if you press a button after that.
>>335691758
There's no PVP.
>start with high heavy stance
>fuck up and miss
>change to low quick stance
>make a smooth escape
This is going to be amazing if they add real PVP.
What are those red swords on the ground
>>335691863
Probably doesn't realise the bloodstains are npc controlled.
>>335691932
Places where other players died
>>335691320
The game was originally called Oni and wasn't a souls-like so Onimusha not made by capcom basically.
>>335690109
>Got a host to the third shrine
Aw yeah.
>Insisted on taking on the Yoki at the start of the burning village while I was trying to show him the back way
This is becoming a running theme.
>>335691932
Death markers of other players, you can summon in an npc of them and fight them.
>>335691932
People died there, you can summon them and fight if you want to maybe get some drops.
>>335691932
Where a player died. Its a "phantom" of that player as an NPC. When you die you also appear in someone elses game like that
>>335691721
How exactly do you gain access to the super move? It's supposed to be circle+triangle, right? I activated it once when i first learned about it, but never managed to get it working after that.
I must really suck at this game, dark souls 3 i had a total of 5 deaths through my entire playthrough, and now i already got over 30 on this guy, pretty much completely out of repair items at this point. Just feels like I'm barely doing any damage to him, even without my weapons being broken.
>>335677764
To put an interesting reversal on the gaijin samurai trope, an italian mercenary once wrote about a samurai wandering in europe in another company.
Described him as an interesting fellow with an awesome attitude, strange equipment and, this will make every weaboo happy, a very cool looking sword, the katana.
Also Italy had Bernardo il giapponese
http://historum.com/asian-history/21517-samurai-who-went-rome.html
and Hasekura Tsunenaga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasekura_Tsunenaga
>go in expecting decent souls clone
>get meh dark souls 2 clone with the same bad lock on system and mobs = difficult mentality
I get that people are defending it to be contrarian, but no one honestly believes that this game is better than souls games right? It copies the souls 2 formula pretty much 1:1, which people agree was shit.
>>335692171
First you need to have your guardian with you, the icon should show up him in the top left, then you need to kill stuff to fill up your guardians meter, if it's flashing, that means you can use the Living Blade.
>>335692171
You need to have you spirit animal thing (i.e. get your blood stain or recall it) the just wait for the circle up in the top left to charge to full.
I am not sure if it charges over time or with kills.
>>335692171
You see your spirit animal in the top left?
Thats actually a bar that increases with kills and shit, they need to change it cause its a little faint to see but if you look close you'll see.
>>335692259
Most people think that at first. It's when you finally realize you shouldn't be playing it like a souls game that it really clicks.
>>335692176
Howdy /v/, my name is Kenichi Smith.
I'm a 27 year old Japanese Toonaholic (Cartoon fan for you foreigners). I draw cartoons and comics on my tablet, and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior American games. (Halo, Gears of War, Call of Duty)
I train with my 1911 every day, this superior weapon can shoot straight through steel because it kicks ass, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my gun license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.
I speak English fluently, both the Midwestern and the East Coast accents, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about American history and their Constitution, which I follow 100%
When I get my American visa, I am moving to New York to attend a prestigious High School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an animator for Nickelodeon or a game designer!
I own several cowboy outfits, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to America, so I can fit in easier. I keep cool to my elders and seniors and speak English as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.
Wish me luck in America!
>>335692171
>>335690556
The bar filling up is slightly hard to see, as it's just a light transparent bar overlaying the icon
>>335692259
>mobs = difficult mentality
>only had to fight mobs when i dashed forward like a retard
This complaint tells more about how retarded the person is than about the game difficulty.
What's the point of the survey even? This isn't the type of game that's mainstream, just looking at the graphics alone & we know it's not a high budget game so why can't they just do their own thing?
They never did this with Ninja Gaiden so why now?
>>335692413
Not him, but I agree. I j'm just having problems figuring it out.
>>335692460
Nah, you get swarmed by mobs up by the residence if you go in the front.
>>335692171
I think you just kill enough people for the super move, try dying twice to get the spirit back to you and then charging it up for the boss.
Make sure your Armor weight is under 70%, this boss is made to punish people with heavy armor.
You can slow him down with one of the talisman moves so thats worth the investment.
You can blow his horns off with bombs and those fire shuriken so if you have them, use them.
I'm not 1000% sure but I swear Wind is his weakness, I was doing like 10% of his HP a swing with it on.
Just kite him on first form for overhead swings, if you have fast armor its a free heavy strike on his head or back.
Keep sprinting around him, his attacks are harder to dodge but easier to move from.
On the second form start using your slowdown talisman skills and just goto town on him, if you run out theres two really safe hits on him you can do. One being the 3 hit combo where he goes wild and lands, just move away and hit him in the back. The second being him going for his balls if you positioned well enough, you can tell when he's eyeing to fastball you so get a free hit or two before he goes across to get them.
wew lad
I still gotta watch out for ki management and practice ki bursting more often, I run out of it at one point in this webm, but I'm getting the hang of it
Stance swapping to make long as combos is super cool, the spear is to much fun.
>>335692465
>why would you want feedback on your work-in-progress product???
>>335692413
You mean expect Souls-like functionality but not the same combat.
>>335692529
You're telling me how i experienced the game? I don't get what you're trying to say here.
>>335692621
The survey is alright but mentioning the game's difficulty is a mistake.
>>335677812
Razor's Edge was great and so is this you faggot
>>335692579
You posted this in the other thread already and you got your answer.
>>335692558
>try dying twice
You know you can just call it back to you at a shrine, right?
>>335692579
This isn't Dark Souls 3. Spamming will get you killed.
>>335692723
I am just saying if you walk in that door 4 or so enemies automatically aggro at once.
>>335692678
To a point
>>335692819
The damage the enemies do is too high
>>335692723
Just ignore him, he's a massive attention whoring faggot in the DkS/BB generals.
>>335692558
I feel like i've leveled my character completely wrong, as i don't have any of those things. I got the fire shurikens and fire talisman, and neither seem to really do anything to him, in medium stance i do probably less than 1% per hit.
>>335692927
Didn't know about calling it back, I didn't use the spirit for the fight. I died the first time in heavy armor, rushed back with low weight armor and dusted him.
I don't get the "this game doesn't explain things well".
You can just hear what the dead people are saying, they will also give the commands on the spot for whatever's new and theres literally a manual section on the menu for you to see.
What the fuck do you need more?
>>335692008
Oh god I can't keep doing this, I have to stop.
So I get giving the bosses and Yoki more health. Sure, why not, even when it's like quadrupled, whatever.
But to then quadruple their damage? This is hilarious, these bosses are pretty damn easy to solo, but on co-op they become impossible Super Saiyans.
20 summons, and every single time we'd whittle them down to half-health and then get one-shot by some innocuous attack. I can't take this seriously, it's too funny to be annoying. They thought this was good balance.
Ah well. Actually co-oping against bandits and such is pretty great.
>>335692942
Are you using heavy stance? I find medium and low to be kinda useless for this fight since you want a beefy safe hit when he's in his safe periods. You can find talismans on enemies to do elemental damage still to make the fight a bit quicker.
I only had enough points in ninjutsu to get the 3 and 4 fire shuriken skill and the 3 skill for the slow talisman. If he doesnt go into form 2 just keep goading those safe hits.
Nioh is the batman vs superman for /v/.
It's shit.
Everyone agrees it's shit.
Everyone can explain why it's shit.
But /v/ will defend it saying "you just don't understand" because it's full of contrarians that want to like the souls series but for it to be obscure again (even though it was never obscure, even DeS wasn't)
>>335681462
>>335681653
You guys need to realize that you receive a lot more damage if you get hit in the back.
This shit was even in Witcher 2 and 3.
>>335693002
Once I realized it was the boss, I called mine back and went exploring in another direction.
>>335693042
30 minute tutorial with vidoes, a annoying npc telling you everything and flashing prompts everywhere.
>>335693202
>They thought this was good balance.
This is an ALPHA demo and they have a survey to go along with it.
>>335693251
I beat the the first boss before stopping. I know how it works. That doesn't mean they don't still do too much damage.
Who /high stance/ all the time??
>>335693371
>i-it's just an ALPHA!!
>they'll fix it!!!
>>335693247
>It's shit.
>Everyone agrees it's shit.
Nice delusion.
If it's so "shit" and you didn't enjoy it, why are you even posting?
Maybe go back to the echo chamber on reddit if you don't like people having a different opinion than you.
>>335693371
>Alpha
Ah come on.
What's there is pretty damn polished. Normally the alphas I've played, you play as like untextured models and square blocks jumping around a cardboard environment. These are a couple of completely finished environments.
Besides, I already filled out the survey long before messing around with co-op.
>>335693407
>mfw axing through nihonjin raiders in 2 hits flat
>mfw the axe even has some decent crowd control
>>335693437
That's literally the point of Alphas, yeah? This isn't a game that claims to be in perpetual beta as an excuse. If you are going to parrot shit then at least make sure it actually applies first.
>>335693437
They're literally throwing it out there very early (this is an alpha build, not a beta) and asking for feedback from the players, you claimed "they thought this was good balance".
So instead of filling out the survey you shitpost on /v/ instead.
Impressive stupidity. Did you inherit from your parents?
personally, i just want for them to either take down the durability system, or allow you to just buy whetstones at the shrine.
>>335693437
>Game has survey for feedback
>Doesn't even have a release date yet
Sure, a lot of games have alphas/betas 1-2 months before release and no way to send the devs feedback besides twitter/fb, but not this one.
>>335693672
A blacksmith is mentioned in one of the loading screen hints, but it seems like he didn't make it into the demo.
>>335693672
Or at least make it a guaranteed drop at a certain amount of equipment offerings.
>>335693642
>"they thought this was good balance"
He ain't me.
So are enemies supposed to onehit me?
>>335693923
You arent supposed to get hit
>>335693247
But batman vs superman is the movie of the year, and beat super hero movie ever.
>>335689426
Too bad it was SW4 instead.
>>335693923
Get armor and you won't be oneshot. The first 10 or so minutes are a oneshot show.
Once you get armor nothing really oneshots you, you can still be comboed to death, but oneshots are less often.
>>335694042
So there is no leeway at all? That sounds really bad.
>>335694046
Fuck off /tv/
>>335693923
In the very beginning? Yes. Mariner armor is worthless, but the enemies should drop pieces of armor that'll make you survive at least 3 hits. You have to play very carefully in the beginning, but you should have quite a bit more lenience by the time you get to the second shrine.
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>>335694124
Oh wow, you're right. I put on a rice hat and sandals and can suddenly survive. Thanks.
>>335692465
>>335692621
>>335692819
It'a alpha demo, it's meant to take in players input on the game. They take the feedback and rebalance the game. It's not only meant to show the game as those retard saying that TN shouldn't rebalance the game and cave in to the complaints.
In order to understand the Japanese ways, William Adams, you must become Japanese.
>>335693469
Not him, but I enjoyed it. That still doesn't mean it's not bad and unbalanced.
>>335680246
I liked the WotS series. I will enjoy this, as the combat style looks similar
>>335694585
There's undoubtedly some WotS influence in there (Amongst a bunch of other stuff), but it feels like its own animal.
>>335694585
There's less grind.
>>335677548
Completed it earlier this morning.
At first I was wildly confused and I still barely understand some of the things in the game but yeah I enjoyed it thoroughly and replayed the first stage. Can't wait.
Do we know what Mark of the Conqueror is? I assume its cosmetic DLC
>>335693923
Back attack does massive damage
>Play it with axe
>"This game sucks"
>Play it with spear
>"Actually no, I'm having fun"
>>335682537
I don't know where this is from, but it's staged. Watch his feet. He pushes off in order to allow himself to be flipped without injury. He essentially does a roll. You can even see him plant a hand on the mat.
>>335694804
Nah, no one knows yet. Most people are thinking it'll just be some equipment or a special kodama or something
>>335689518
They still fucked over PC users hard in regards to DOA5. Nude mods existed for the series long before they ported DOA to PC. TN is just being a piece of shit.
>>335686850
>Evangelists
>Everywhere
>Hard
There's a total of...3 in the undead settlement, 1 in the cathedral of the deep, 1 in boreal valley. So 5 in total.
And they're easy. Literally just get in close, dodge behind, backstab. Or parry. If you can't deal with an enemy that doesn't stagger after every hit than you're just some r1 memeing faggot.
How long is this demo? People seem to be getting quite a lot out of this.
>>335695687
4 hours for two fairly polished areas.
6 if you're shit at games. 8 if you're REALLY shit at games, like me. More if you decide to run builds or make the frankly terrible decision to try co-op.
It's pretty good, would buy.
>>335695827
Nice, gonna have to give this a download. Why is co-op shit?
>>335696117
Because bosses and demons get like double damage and quadruple health, gestures don't work and the host dying means you get half rewards for bothering to go to their world.
They will always die.
I think the big thing that is making people call this artificially difficult is that it's far more obtuse and less free form than dark souls
In dark souls the systems for combat, at least, are all very simple and straight forward. You can get an understanding of the basics of combat in a few minutes. And the combat is very open, so to speak. Dodging is more easily chained and generally generous, the movement is quicker and less rigid.
Ni-oh is to dark souls what devil may cry is to dragon's dogma. It's a more technical game which expects you to mold yourself to its mechanics and become good in the way it wants. In dark souls theres a lot of freedom in how you proceed, lots of build and gameplay choices. This game feels like different characters are more akin to different weapons in ninja gaiden. There's changes, obviously, but the base gameplay is always the same and how they want you to fight is too.
People came in expecting they could sword and board it, like in souls, and they can't. They expected they could r1 spam and roll away, maybe tanking a hit as they do, but they can't.
