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why ?????
>>335052660
Because retards will gobble it up like the lies of jews
y not
5 billion years, dude
doesnt matter it's not coming out
>>335052660
Please understand. Just because they're indie doesn't mean they don't want your shekels
Drm free version on gog. You know that that means.
>>335052660
what, are you poor?
Pirating day one 2bh fàm
>>335053105
Just wondering how an indie game is allowed to cost 3x more than it should.
>>335052660
Because the creator thinks he can get away with it. It's gotten plenty of coverage, from Sony, from Dorito Pope, from the press, etc. The "hype" is potentially big enough that people will buy it despite the high price tag.
It might bite him in the ass though. Consumers have developed preconceived notions about how much an indie game should cost. I think many will consider $60 unreasonable and just wait until it's on sale. Plus I don't expect the critical reception to be too amazing.
>>335053539
I'm wondering why I should pay full price for a game that isn't even finished yet
>no multiplayer
day one pirate lads
>>335052964
What did he mean by this?
>>335052660
I don't think this will be a good game, but 60$ has been the standard price for games for a while. I'm not sure what price you were expecting.
>>335053891
I hope it does bite him in the ass.
I'm not paying 60 for this shit, I don't pay 60 for most games.
>inb4 poor fag
No, not poor just being smart with my money.
>>335054148
20 bucks for indie shit tops.
>>335054148
$60 is typical for a AAA title, not an indie game.
>>335053891
How many years has it been in development?
Star Fox 0 is also 60 and this board is defending it.
What the fuck?
>>335054148
$20
5 BILLION YEARS
>5 BILLION YEARS
5 BILLION YEARS
>>335054265
>>335054319
>>335054538
What was the budget?
Because you can't just put everything that's not from the big companies as "indie garbage" there has been a resurgence in medium-high budget games that make full use of marketing.
Going "If it's not AAA it has to be dirt cheap" is retarded.
That said this game probably gonna garbage so I wouldn't buy it at any price.
>>335052660
Sony
>>335054185
>smart with my money
lol thats what a poorfag would say
>>335054491
console games are bought by parents for screaming children, so $60 is probably a bargain for them
HOW DARE THEY ASK MORE THAN 10 DOLLARS FOR THIS GAME I WILL BE PIRATING IT NOW
Why complain about price when it's up on gog
>>335052660
because people will pay $60
after all these years of aggressive marketing they'll need the money
I think most of us will just pirate to find out how shit it is
>>335054590
The budget is their problem, not mine.
>>335054590
i don't even care about the cost or their status as an "indie"
my issue is that if they want me to buy the game before it is even finished they shouldn't be charging full price
>>335052660
>being so stupid to buy directly on Steam
>not waiting for cheap Keystore prices
>>335055178
Who's forcing you to do so?
>>335054915
Nope
>>335055178
then pirate it and quit whining holy fuck
>>335052660
You can literally play it for the rest of your life and there will STILL be new content.
You should be happy it's just $60
>>335055178
literally every fucking modern game does this.
No Mans Sky isn';t the first offender or the last
Learn2pirate or go fuck yourself
I don't understand. $60 has been the base price for games for over a decade.
>>335055630
Spotted the KFC/Taco Bell executive
>ok guys, take all of the food we already sell and mash it together in different combinations until the heat death of the universe
>>335055769
poorfag machildren who live with their parents still dont want to do extra chores to play a game they dont know will be good or bad
>>335055178
But the game isn't shipping as pre-alpha or early access when it launches.
>>335055904
>food analogies
opinion discarded
>>335055387
hi drone
>tfw my hype is fully charged
>>335055984
Shouldn't you be stuffing a biscuit and corn into a taco shell, and covering it in gravy?
>>335053105
Just call it a hunch, but the level of discourse on /v/ would indicate that 90 percent of the userbase is codependent to some degree. How could most of these socially retarded faggots pass an interview?
>>335052660
>mfw 90% off week 2
>Paying full price
>Buying from Gabe "daylight robbery" Newell
>people unironically defending Spore 2.0 with less features
>>335056178
yup, did that to your mom last night
>>335054059
Then don't pre-order?
>>335056363
shills
>>335055975
it's not shipping at all currently
so its not finished
so I shouldn't have to pay full price
>>335054395
Got announced in 2013 I think.
>>335052660
This attitude killed the game industry. Thanks chief.
>>335056363
Two months out and it was in the top 10 sellers list on Steam.
>>335056363
Haven't you seen the previous thread and the obvious shilling? There were replies to every post who said the game looks like shit or people saying they won't buy it every that they're fucking idiots and stuff and most replies were 1 minute apart. It's probably a few guys actually shilling this shit and a few guys doing it "ironically" because it's funny to them.
Lmao just because its 4 people making thr game doesn't mean it's your typical $10 indie shit
>>335054395
>>335056550
It WAS going to be released in 2015 but Sony said they saw potential and told the developer to wait a year while they threw money at them to add more content and go on various talk shows and do interviews.
One of the biggest additions is apparently the storyline and end game content which they haven't revealed anything about yet... other then central worlds being more dangerous and 'alien looking'
Because people bought into the hype, so they're trying to make as much money as possible before people realize the game is shit
>>335056483
Then wait for it to come out and then the game will be finished and you will buy it for 60$?
Nobody is forcing you to pre-order.
Unless you mean that because the games not finished, you want to buy it now for cheaper than 60$? Who the fuck is going to do that
>>335052660
Because Sony likes money.
>>335052660
Because they spent so much money on shilling this fucking game for years.
>>335055473
I don't mind supporting them if the game is good, but there is no incentive for me to purchase early if there is no discount
>>335055702
>it's ok if everyone does it
no
>>335056450
exactly, but I would if there was some incentive to do so
>>335056843
>Who the fuck is going to do that
smart publishers that want to entice people to preorder unfinished products
>>335056551
Rest in piss.
>>335056025
Y-you're... hyped? UGH! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
>>335056996
So tell me one video game that you could've pre-ordered cheaper than the price it would be when released, cause I haven't ever heard of anything like that. You can't harp on one game for not doing something nobody else does.
Starbound is finally leaving early access (after four fucking years of nothing) and the 1.0 update will have an actual story and remove the hard limitations such as armor requirement for quests so it will be finally nonlinear.
So if you have the cheaper 2D game already you might want to skip No Man's Sky and just play the thing that took four years of no progress to make.
>Shitty ass graphics and art style
>18 quintillion planets that look like the first 150
>No ''search for planet'', so you cant search for a specific planet and go to that planet, because your friend lives in there
>Not starting with a group of players
>Nothing interesting of it so far
>Literally Starbound meets Spore
I aint buying a fully priced unfinished indie game that isn't even good
I learned my lesson from Cube World, and I wont make the same mistake twice
This is just one big joke right?
Everyone just randomly decided to pretend to be excited about this random game for no reason?
>>335056745
>there isn't a difference between having to pay 4 and having to pay 120 employees
>>335057542
>that look like the first 150
That's generous. What was shown by devs can be summed to three archetypes
>desert planet
>snow planet
>earth like planet (grass and trees)
>>335057542
>the first 150
I doubt they'll even look that different. There's probably gonna be like 10 unique ones and after that planets will just change color and look like those previous 10. Just like Binding of Isaac and their 100+ rooms or whatever.
>Change 4 rocks layout in the room
>"Hey, guys, it's a totally new room"
>>335057338
>You can't harp on one game for not doing something nobody else does
sure I can, as long as I harp on all the others, which I always do
>>335057417
Wait "Starbound"?
The Terraria ripoff?
People care about that still?
>>335057698
It's the combination of constant marketing, few details, and talking up combinatorial explosion as a game feature.
>>335057698
Either that or we are just desperate for a good space exploration game
>>335057698
It's marketing played right. Plebs fall for that shit instantly
>Thousands of planets to explore that all look different
>You can fly anywhere in the universe and it never ends
>>335055137
so it's about how big their company is?
I mean, you said AAA games can be 60 bucks
but not indie games
so it doesn't matter how much money they spent on the game, how good the game is, because they're not a big name company they're not allowed to charge the same price as an AAA game.
That's retarded, and makes you look like you love sucking big corp dick.
>>335055178
Man, you go trough a lot of fucking words to say
>they should offer pre-order discounts
Just say that and save everyone the trouble of trying to decipher your crazy ramblings. That said,I agree with you, not offering a single incentive for pre-ordering is stupid.
They should do like creative assembly and offer a pre-order dlc ;-)
>>335058097
>a procedural space exploration game
isn't this the perfect way to make a space exploration game?
the only way this could fail, is if it wasn't full of enough variety
>>335057798
And sometimes, the room itself show you a middle finger
>tfw steam friend gifted it me
I hope it's good.
>>335057829
Well okay I guess it would be a good marketing tactic. But nobody does it, so I just don't see it as a legitimate complaint for a game. The whole "pre-ordering" in general is sketchy I believe because of the point you're trying to make, if everyone pre-orders a hyped up game and the devs get their money before it finishes, they can just call it quits and release whatever unfinished shit they have already
>>335057417
But anon, Starbound is a piece of shit and the devs are massive cunts, why would you even buy that?
>>335058631
>they can just call it quits and release whatever unfinished shit they have already
the catch is if this happens too many times nobody will preorder anymorewho am i kidding people will buy anything
Look it's 2 Space Engine shills
>>335054083
its there, but the likelihood of ever seeing another player is slim to none considering the scale of the game. I dont know why they would even bother including it.
>>335059234
Fuck it actually blinks and wobbles
We've come along way from the jerky animations that all look the same in Spore
>>335058225
Indie dev games are $20 max, period.
Nothing you say matters.
>>335059234
Are they fucking?
>All indie games must charge $20 or less
We implemented this rule when??
>>335059628
Since buyers market. Not talking about sonyggers obv.
>>335059628
>Pricing a guy by it's method of development instead of how much fun it can potentially give you
>>335052660
What is the meaning of ...survival in an infinite procedurally generated world...
Surviving the walking? Survival gameplay like build, hunt and kill?
>>335058225
>incentive
Funny you mention that.
>People were upset when games started coming out for 60 dollars because the 10 dollar difference made up for not having a physical version
>Now it's standard
>>335059576
Do you have some actual reasoning?
I mean, it's fine if you think that all games should never be more then 20$ but saying that AAA can be 60$ and everything else is 20$ is very strange.
>>335059804
Are you saying NMS should be free?
>>335058796
Same could be said for this game. At least Starbound is cheaper if you MUST have a useless space game in your library. Just saying.
>>335059726
If Jewbisoft and Capcum can steal all your shekels for their shoveled out trash why can't 'indie' developers make an actual profit off their game if they actually produce quality content?
Y'all niggers will pay $60 for the new street fighter but pinch your fucking pennies on this all of a sudden
>>335059842
There we go, an incentive to pre-order. Now I have no complaints.Game is still gonna be a massive disappointment because procedural generation is shit most of the time
>>335059139
True and also how is anyone supposed to know if it's released unfinished or not? Personally I don't want to know 100% of what is included in a game because I like the surprise. That conflicts with the idea of "we need to know everything about it before it comes out so I know if it's worth my money or not" which is alot of what I am seeing in these nms threads
>>335059576
>Indie dev games are $20 max, period.
>yfw Activision is basically an indie dev now
>>335052660
It's looking pretty basic right now.
Looks like you just go to a planet, get resources, leave.
What if the guys who're making it wanted to sell it for $20 but Sony is forcing them to price it for $60?
>>335060074
>produce quality content
Because 3 different planet types and 15 different aliens all with randomly procedural generated textures and maps isn't quality content. It's something that will get boring and formulaic after a couple hours.
>>335060074
>implying i buy AAA tripe
It's mostly about cost of production, I think.
>>335059946
>>335060074
It because indie devs are untrustworthy.
Think of it like a counterfeiter. He has to sell his fake money at a deep discount to the money launderer to cover the risk, he doesn't get the full face value of it himself.
>>335059924
Games would be $70 now if publishers could get away with it, but consumers would revolt, so instead they hide the cost via DLC, season passes, "deluxe" editions, etc.
>>335060074
Latest AssCreed game has larger production value compared to NMS, you silly weeb.
>>335059838
Things to survive: wild animals, carnivorous plants, extreme heat, cold, and acidic environments, those robot policemen, space pirates, other alien factions that you might piss off. Anyone else hear of anything I missed?
>>335052660
Its funny how they keep trying to push these prices. Game are inherently only worth a few dollars. This can be proven with regional pricing and how develops defend regional pricing by saying "We want to price the games based on what people can afford." They vastly over inflate the worth of their games to squeeze money out of people.
>>335060317
>EA is trustworthy
You're killing me you faggot
>>335059804
You should price it based upon its closest substitute.
>>335060561
They are sure as fuck more trustworthy than Dean Hall or Starbound devs.
>>335060074
Why are indie devs so entitled?
>>335060652
how many multiplayer games are you going to shut down this year, ea
>procedural generation
>>335058796
Because it looks fun and worth the chump change it costs? Plus it's got mod support.
>>335052964
Did they say the game could be played offline?
>>335060927
Both GOG and Steam present it as single player only.
>>335052660
It was featured in a fuckload of things like evening shows wasn't it? The business people decided it was up for many shekels. I'll wait for the reviews..
>>335059628
That's not the rule. The rule is an item physical or digital is only worth what the consumer will pay for it. The seller has no say in this equation. Games in of themselves are virtually worthless since you can get them for free very easily and the fact that even if you cant in the future you will be able to. On top of this they are not a need. We dont need them to live. Couple that with the vast vast sea of competing products and their value is nothing.
This means that the price of a video game is completely dependent in every way on the consumer. That's why they spend so much on advertising. They know this and know the only way they can influence this equation is by brainwashing the public since only the public can change the numbers.
This comes up with indie games a lot more often because their developers dont understand this. They assume inherent value in what they made when there is none. This pisses them off when they see the truth.
>>335061087
heeb detected
>>335061087
haha just like that cartman from southpark!
>>335054148
its a fucking indie game, not a triple A game
>>335061087
take a chill pill, chaim
>>335053891
>Consumers have developed preconceived notions about how much an indie game should cost
you know I find that kind of weird the last 2 exclusive games that were released by sony were "indie" games at unusually high price points, and then now no mans sky is $60
>>335058376
>the cross is the middle finger
*tips ghidorah*
>>335059804
Publishers and developers will never allow that because they cant risk being forced to make good games. The industry suffers form the same affliction movie studios suffer from. They cant downsize. Once they expand they have to stay that size. This directly hurts the quality of the final product.
If they actually allowed people to only pay based on how good the game was the industry would explode and die.
>>335061320
So, a new term? Sonyndie? Indony?
Why is this game so hyped up by literally everyone? It's confirmed dead on arrival since people are way too excited for it and will probably regret paying full price for it once they get bored of the gimmicks.
I'm sure it'll be a good game, but the fact that people hype up ANY game so much is fucking stupid. Especially if it's a new IP entirely, like Destiny.
>>335061419
You retards are prattling. Stop being autistic.
>>335061017
it is a single player experience but its meant to be always played online. But you can play it offline too from what I understand it's just not really the way it's meant to be played.
still looks like a shit game regardless.
>>335059423
the problem is in spore the species were handmade using an editor and had to allow for any shape
in NMS they just alternate between 20 premade heads, 10 premade legs, and 8 premade body types, so they can use premade animations for each of those body parts
Too much hype around this game, and too few videos that actually show the real gameplay.
Ill buy when is 20 buks maximum, if not will be a total flop as i suppose
>>335061358
You see, there's an item in that cross that gives you Quadshot
You need to have bombs in order to break those rocks and thus getting a good item for early start
HOWEVER, I HAVE NO FUCKING BOMBS
>>335057205
>he shills Minecraft without content for free
It was in development for 4-5 years and suffered horrible feature creep that inflated the production costs.
>>335056195
it's weird, I'm socially retarded, but I know how to bullshit the people I need to to float through life
I don't know how to be genuine, but I'm really great at telling people what they want to hear
>>335060248
So where exactly are you getting these numbers from? Do you work there?
My normalfag friends are all talking about this game like the next coming of Christ. I just don't get it. Single player survival games are not fun.
>>335060923
>Because it looks fun and worth the chump change it costs?
No, its boring, and its a waste of money
Cluckefish cant even do something right, so instead of developing Starbound, they publish other games like Risk of Rain and Stardew Valley, that by the way, are much better than anything Cluckefuck gave us in the last year (that was, by the way, NOTHING)
>Plus it's got mod support
Mods that have more content than Starbound itself. Besides, the devs are dicks to modders
>>335060317
Youre the same faggot that will always trust capcom because they're AAA despite their past and releasing $30 games for 60.
>>335052660
I'm looking forward to read everyone's disappointment with this game in the weeks following release.
Why are so many people defending this?
>>335058796
because of the mods, anon
http://www.nexusmods.com/starbound/mods/381/?
>>335062559
Some people just believe everything they hear from someone trying to sell them something.
>>335055223
>it's on gog
>a free exe installer will be available immediate
>>335062559
It's literally 1 or 2 people. Every time you ask for proof for these vague features they're promoting they just say "look it up yourself!"
>>335052660
>60 buckeroo walking simulator
That never happened before!
>>335053539
Why does a game being indie mean anything? Indie doesn't say anything about the game itself.
>>335061759
>in NMS they just alternate between 20 premade heads, 10 premade legs, and 8 premade body types, so they can use premade animations for each of those body parts
Proof of this or did it come from your ass hole?
>>335063289
I says it was made by indie devs.
>>335062559
Guy who defends this here: Brand new games are typically sold at a $60 price tag. This is a brand new game.
I believe a game's worth is determined by quality, and while I have no idea if this game is good or not I believe that it being "indie" is completely irrelevant in terms of its quality. It looks like a really big fancy game with pretty graphics. No idea if its good. But developers are entitled to the payment that they ask for if one wishes to play said product. This much I can say for certain.
>>335063625
Which says absolutely nothing about the game itself.
Gotta pay the shills shilling this shit somehow
>>335063619
https://youtu.be/h-kifCYToAU?t=1279
it came from the dev's asshole
>>335063920
NO TWO GRAINS OF SAND ARE ALIKE IN THE DESERT
PREORDER NOW
>paying money for fucking nothing simulator 2016
WALK AROUND PLANET
WALK AROUND ANOTHER PALLET SWAPPED PLANET
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING, AS LONG AS IT'S WALKING AROUND SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT COLORED PLANETS
>>335060383
>literally copy and paste with some new kill animations
uh huh
>>335063920
Except he never says that.
And if you're using the picture as your proof, he selects one example creature and clicks the variant button MULTIPLE times to create pages on pages of variants, not just the single screen in the picture you showed.
>>335064614
>literally copy and paste with some new kill animations
You're talking about NMS surely.
BUYING GAMES AT FULL PRICE FROM OFFICIAL RETAILER IN 2016
>BUYING GAMES AT FULL PRICE FROM OFFICIAL RETAILER IN 2016
BUYING GAMES AT FULL PRICE FROM OFFICIAL RETAILER IN 2016
its like you want to pay console prices.... fucking use G2a / kinguin you shitters
>>335064672
and if you're not completely blind, you can see the same head body and leg types being repeated over and over again not only in the picture I posted, but when he clicks the variant button.
>>335064849
only issue with those sites and greenman is you can't refund
>>335064943
I think he's legit blind from watching to many NMS vids, thanks to that eyebleeding acidic palette they use.
>>335064849
Enjoy your illegitimate steam key
>>335065179
never ever preorder
that goes for key sellers too
if the game turns out to be a shitshow because of bugs, performance or otherwise, you'll know by day 2
just be a patient little boy
do some research
>>335064849
Shady as fuck, eurotrash.
>>335064849
1.Steal a credit card and buy hundreds of keys for X big game coming out
2. Sell them to dumbshits on Kinguin or G2A
3.?????
4. Profit
When the fraud protection goes through they cancel all those keys and your steam account gets marked
>>335064943
And each variant no matter how similar has had a different size and shape to it. That was the deer shaped one. And then he clicks on a different creature type, lizard i think and there's entirely different models for each body part. And how many different "animals" are there? You don't know.
>>335065619
>B-BUT MUH RESKINS
>>335052660
So...this is the power of the pc master race
>>335053539
Because sony set the price
We all know you're just gonna pirate it because you don't think it's a fair price.
PSA: THIS SHILL THREAD IS NO LONGER LEGITIMATE
PLEASE MOVE TO THE LEGITIMATE SHILL THREAD
>>335059812
>>335059812
>>335059812
>>335065694
>I'm wrong now it's time to meme
Sounds exactly right for a /v/ tard like you
>>335065619
>different size and shape to it
so changing the model size now counts as a completely new model?
nice.
I don't know how many "different animals" there are, but I've only seen about four variants from all the videos.
>>335065938
Wrong at what? Video shows exactly that, a bunch of reskins.
