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>>334388090
Is that really a surprise?
>>334388160
Actually yeah. I was expecting the peasy mustard race to eat it up wholesale.
Oh wow, I actually didn't see that coming, I thought that normies were going to eat it eat because "DUDE IT'S FAST AND GORY"
I guess that's what happens when you make a Halo clone and call it Doom.
>that garbage netcode
Even BF4 had better fucking netcode then DOOM's
It's probably a good thing that the reviews are so negative. Maybe they'll see the reviews. Maybe they'll fix the demon rune, actually add servers to the PC version instead of peer to peer trash, create modes that disable loadouts and hack modules, etc.
>>334389258
The netcode is fine, the problem is that the beta has no dedicated servers. So you have no choice, matchmaking puts you in a 200+ ms server because that's where people are playing
>>334388993
>id rips BD off to impress millenials
>it bombs
SgtMkIV has now killed both Classic Doom and official AAA Doom
>>334388090
There are no reviews for the game when I bring up steam
>>334388090
I hurt myself today,
To see if I still feel,
I focus on the pain,
The only thing that's real,
The needle tears a hole,
The old familiar sting,
Try to kill it all away,
But I remember everything,
Anyone play the new UT? How is it? Is it a decent enough Arena FPS?
>>334391270
>rips off brutal doom
Forgot to rip off crazy fast movement.
>>334391870
open beta have separate store page
http://store.steampowered.com/app/350470
Betas then:
>I don't like this about the game, here's how it could be improved
Betas now:
>FUCKING SHIT 0/10 I TREAT IT LIKE A FINISHED PRODUCT
>>334392161
It's very good, it feels just like an UT game should feel like.
The new movement options are very cool, you can wall-run, bounce off walls and more.
I'd say try it because it's free.
Blunder of the year.Still better than Doom 3
>>334388090
>Doom multiplayer
Who cares?
>>334392816
>Implying betas aren't just glorified demos/public bug testing services now.
>>334392816
to be fair Beta now are basically stress tests for netcode, nothing notable ever gets changed because they offer it like a pre-order early access gimmick
>>334392816
Betas then:
> Unstable build usually not made public in the first place. Why would you do that.
Betas now:
> Promotional mostly stable demo for the game coming a week after when its already gold with no time to fix any major faults. Named beta to deflect criticism
>>334392816
betas used to get developed more before release
they dont now sandpai
>>334392816
Unless you believe the MP's gameplay can be deeply, fundamentally changed in the 3 weeks they have until launch, I don't know what to tell you
I feel SP will be the main treat, but it's pretty fair to form an opinion on the MP from this. I don't think more maps and modes will alleviate the main gripes people have with it
>>334392816
>1 month before release
>beta
Betas now aren't betas, it's just a marketing word, the game is ready at this point
>>334392816
Betas then:
>Actual betas, the game is not finished at all
Betas now:
>Totally not a demo, the game releases in a month and you can't change anything in such a short amount of time
It's like when games put the caption that says "PRE-ALPHA FOOTAGE" in their videos when the game is about to release so people can't critisize it.
>>334392816
What's the difference between an alpha and a beta?
Be honest though doomfags. Is there anything id could make that would make you happier than just firing up gzdoom or something and playing the originals and fan wads?
>>334392816
That's due to developers fault you dumb frog faggot rat poster. Consider suicide.
>>334388993
Its not a Halo clone though. I am a lifelong Halo fan and playing this feels nothing like that because none of the systems are the same, the movement isnt the same, the guns aren't the same, the way guns affect players isn't the same, the only things that are similar is the armor design and map layout. Its not even good but im so fucking tired of seeing people say thing.
DooM2 death match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQbkE09nIc
DooM3BFG death match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aY6grG5CUk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccPw4nifHQU
BrutalDooM death match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZejaOFS5bU
>>334388090
One Unique and Customizable Demon-themed armor set with three skin variations
Six metallic paint colors (*can be applied to weapons or armor)
Three id® logo patterns (*can be applied to weapons and armor)
Six Hack Modules (*instantly unlocked consumable perks used during MP matches)
not halo like armor system(not decoration, its item armor)
>>334393915
Such cringe-worthy commentary.
is it even worth the download
>two weapon slots
>no movement mechanics to speak of
>terrible mouse input
>fov locked
>absolute dogshit audio mixing
>visual clutter / too much noise in fights
>fixed movement speed that's slow as fuck
>built-in wallhacks
This game was absolutely designed for console shitters
Damn OP beat me too it..
why hardcore?
If gaming culture has truly evolved then this will fail. Far to violent and edgy to be relevant anymore. Hopefully this will be forgotten soon.
>>334388090
Gee how could this have happened?
>You don't have to buy anything to leave a review so people who had no interest in the first place can throw a negative review in
>Post-TORtanic bandwagoning on any new release that looks like it might do poorly
>1000 people supposedly seasoned arena FPS players that want nothing more than a new, quality arena FPS but all the new games that meet their criteria are dead and empty
Gee.
>>334393676
>Is there anything id could make that would make you happier than just firing up gzdoom or something and playing the originals and fan wads?
Yes, if they released a SP beta. I don't mind alternative takes on Doom, I even liked Doom 3. But they're asking to be shit on with a free MP beta outsourced to the people who worked on the MP of nu-Halo
A short SP section actually developed by id would deliver what most people want and probably do much better to bolster sales for this game. A playable E3 section would be fine
>>334392161
it's the shit anon,the bees knees
Hope the coop is alright,need a replacement for resistance:FoM
>>334394634
I'm pretty sure the "co-op" tag doesn't mean native campaign support to co-op, just that you can do co-op levels on SnapMap
>>334393446
The alpha is the first version of a game that has some parts of the game being basically finished as intended, a part of the game plays like the final product, save polishing and sound, you could say it is the moment it becomes playable.
A beta is basically finished, nothing will be added or changed, except for minute details, and a shitton of bugfixing(allegedly) and polishing(allegedly).
>>334393053
I have never been in a beta or heard of a beta that has changed much when the game has been fully released.
The game is good in the beta, trey could PERHAPS increase movement speed and adjust damage modifiers to certain weapons (vortex and static a shit). Netcode is responsive and finely tuned. Don't expect q3a, if anything its a good casual arena shooter where you can easily fuck over longtime casuals.
>>334392161
hit detection is trash still
wait another year until they fix it
>>334394450
Did you even play the game or are you just funposting?
>>334392161
Yeah. It'll scratch that itch the failure of this pos probably stirred up in you.
>>334394693
Welp the game went lower on my list.
>>334388090
desu I like the game
Any single player in the beta? Don't give a fuck about MP.
is it me or is turning abit fucked? your character seems to slow down or stop sometimes normally while your moving
>>334395426
There's 6.6 times the amount of people playing the game at this second than there are people who have left a review, and the negative reviewers actually got to it before the servers had even gone up.
There's no non-funposting in this sort of situation.
>>334393446
In the actual industry, it's technically in alpha once you're able to do everything you're supposed to do in game gameplay wise. Beta starts once you finish adding content and focus solely on polishing.
>>334395646
no but you shouldn't have expected any, focus of the new doom game is MP, single player is just an afterthought
>>334392816
It was always the finished the product,Open multiplayer betas are open multiplayer demos that stress server connections and devs bugfix/find things that you'd normally have to paid someone to do.
>>334391270
>rips off brutal doom
not even in the slightest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaWtBiLYtkA
>>334395673
The movement on the ground is shaky, but it's still ok.
>>334393136
Sounds like bioshock 2
>90% of negative reviews are trustworthy
>70% of positive reviews are meme-tier such as "uninstall button works fine"
I feel bad for doom fans.
>>334388090
most of the reviews were posted before the beta even released by you fags
[spoiler} its fun [/spoiler]
It's always funny when people try to go for le call of duty audience to get more money but the game ends up bombing. If it sells like shit they deserve it.
B-BUT PEOPLE WANT GRAFIX
NOT GAMEPLAY
>>334396106
Real Doom fans saw this shit coming from miles away. Don't feel bad for the idiots who thought it would be good.
>>334392816
Beta's then
>Beta
Beta's now
>demo
>>334395915
but a different anonymous post told me the opposite
>MP is shit as always
>maybe the campaign will be good
>zero fucking footage shown
yeah this isn't promising.
>focus on the MP
>MP is a horrible Frankenstein abomination of Halo and Quake and it does neither franchise justice
>>334396185
>If it sells like shit they deserve it.
You clearly haven't seen the threads in which retards justify preordering because they'll get a plastic figure
>>334396552
hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahhhaahaha
>Letting the fact that it's called Doom turn you off of an otherwise solid shooter
>>334396842
>This piece of shit
>Solid
>>334396106
I don't. I'm glad that doom fans knew that this would be garbage.
>>334392816
It comes out in a month, m8.
>>334396890
I want to see the campaign
but the fact that we don't have any fucking footage just reeks of "it's shit"
>>334396876
What exactly is wrong with it? Remember that "It's not like [another, completely unrelated arena shooter franchise]!" is not an argument, it's a statement.
>>334396842
Sorry i dont like call of duty
>>334396647
>implying modern fps have a good singleplayer campaign
It's going to be a 5 hours campaign showing off multiplayer maps and you know it.
>>334396691
I was saying that to a friend too. It's like if Quake and Halo had a baby but Halo had the more dominant genes. There are certain elements of it that are ok but then there are glaring weaknesses that really detract from it.
>Loadouts
>Only two weapons at once
>No rocket boosting
>Can spawn as a demon
Fucking why?
>>334396983
Wasn't there one on E3 where you were in hell with Baron appearing?
>>334396876
yeah, shit can be solid if you dont drink enough water.
>>334388607
>I was expecting the peasy mustard race to eat it up wholesale
>expecting PC users to like a consolized abomination
Nah.
FUCK DOOM
>>334397014
It's a combination of an arena shooter with a modern console FPS and it fails in both regards. It has the typical shit you don't want in a game like this. Loadouts, perks, can only hold two weapons, cinematic melee kills, floaty movement, stiff aiming clearly designed for thumbsticks. It's just a lame attempt at making a modern arena shooter.
>>334397231
>every sci-fi game armors looks all the same now
what the fuck happened
>>334395915
>the part of the game that *isn't* being outsourced is the afterthought
This is a new one.
>>334388090
>dedicaded servers
Why ? The online probably die in six weeks, they dont waste servers in dead games
>>334397231
They got a fucking Gangnam Style taunt. This game is like your old as fuck uncle that wants to be in with the kids and starts quoting shits from 3+ years ago
Here are two things I never thought would go together, Doom and Gangnam Style. With id's consent no less
>The way the guns are given to me is not fun! I should be able to amass myself every gun in the game and be effective in any situation without having to compensate for the weaknesses of my chosen weapons!
>What is this demon bullshit? Why would they put in a point of contention into the matches and give the losing team a chance to turn things around? What is this, CoD?
>Wooooow, the mobility isn't like in my favorite shooter? What were they thinking?
>>334388090
Honest question: How do you motivate yourself to play this game?
>>334397121
>rocket boosting
Is that what the kids call it now?
>>334397179
yeah but fucking nothing since then
>>334397231
What the fuck is that?
Don't tell me that's how armor looks ingame.
>>334397441
>picking up guns in the world creates conflict for players so they dont wander the map aimlessly
>the demon is kickass. the demon art design isnt
>it is still too fucking slow
I really like the music though. They nailed that I think
>>334397231
Is this Destiny 2?
>>334397429
It's not the same Id, anon.
>>334397429
>This game is like your old as fuck uncle that wants to be in with the kids and starts quoting shits from 3+ years ago
That's exactly how I felt it playing the beta, old grandpa Doom has just woken up from a nap and is going through a midlife age crisis now.
>>334397589
>I really like the music though
The music is generic as fuck
>>334397589
Why would they wander aimlessly when the aim of the game is to kill enemies, and there are already pick-ups to compete for?
>>334394290
underrated postI-is it fun at least?
>Instagib autoaim weapon
>>334397719
They wander aimlessly in search for players throughout the whole map. It happens nearly every game. Not to mention, all the pickups are eaten up quick by jews with the wallhack perk.
>>334392816
This has to be bait. Look at those replies.
v/ hates it...
... successful game confirmed
>>334392816
That's because the beta usually IS the final product now.
>>334397890
It is fun..
it's just not Doom. Imagine if Halo were actually fun.
Play it. It's free... It's not worth the buy though.
>>334388090
I've been playing it. It plays fine.
>>334397948
It's not aimless, though. At least when I don't have anyone to shoot, I go for armor and ammo. Eventually I will run into someone and the sound of combat will attract more players to that general area.
>>334391060
Will the full game have dedicated servers? Because it's a console game at heart.
>>334392816
Beta back in the day used to be a real testing phase.
These days the only true beta is you.
>>334388090
So everyone is freaking over this MP beta.
But is there any look into the singleplayer? Mazey levels, key hunting, ripping and tearing? I don't give a shit about MP.
>>334388090
I've NEVER felt more like a GAY floating moving blob in a game before in my life.
ALSO, the rockets have minimal fucking knockback.
it's such a GAY pussified arena shooter jesus christ.
>>334397935
>railgun with autoaim
>the direct hit is an instankill
>if you're retarded enough to miss it, there's still a huge 150dmg splash after it
I've got the Gauss Cannon like 10 times now and haven't missed a shot yet. I'm OK with superweapons, but autoaim in a fucking FPS just feels dirty. At least make people hit legitimately
>>334397216
He said Pcuck mustard race anon. Not normal PC users.
>>334398050
>Imagine if Halo were actually fun.
Even Halo 5 is more fun than this, though. It feels like an even more dumbed down and easy to play mix between the worst parts of Halo and the worst parts of PC arena shooters.
>>334398093
But wouldn't it be so much more fun to be able to rush or strafe your way to a weapon? There is a huge sense of reward when you and an enemy player both really want that lightning gun and you're able to snag it from him and then melt his face.
Super shotty + spamming F is instant victory. Seriously, why'd they need to introduce a instawin panic button? Melee is fucked.
It's fast, but not as fast as you'd like. The maps are big but it jumps straight from huge open areas to let sniper faggots have somewhere to camp straight to cramped as fuck spaces where if you don't have a super shotty or you don't spam F enough you lose.
The game felt waaaay too easy. Was I just playing against shitters or is the shotty OP? I'm not for a second believing my own skill got me to #1 so often.
It's decent fun for a bit, but not great. Not at all like Doom. The Halo 5 meme is real.
If you pre-bought it you probably already killed yourself, for the love of god even if you like it don't shell out 60 shekels for this thing.
>>334398101
To my knowledge, yes, at least on PC. The Alpha leak had a panoply of dedicated server options (and bots, too)
>>334398154
SP footage is incredibly scarce, haven't seen much of that since E3. All the marketing is about the MP.
That means either the SP is actually good or the SP is not any better than the MP.
>>334398252
This game is ridiculously easy. Casual babbies however will have a hard time adjusting to dooms 'innovative' mechanics.
>>334397231
Amen brother
>>334394479
Did he die?
>>334388090
What the fuck, I'm playing this and this is awesome, what are they on ?
>>334392161
Really liked it. Not even a big fan of unreal.
>>334398165
Don't forget the literal wallhack altfire
>>334397121
>rip off two arena shooters
>one slow, one fast
>both made famous by using weapon pickups in the map to set up chokepoints
I refuse to believe these people made Halo 2.
Lockout is like a miniature version of q3dm6 tuned for thumbsticks.
They've even got the weird Evangelion looking armor/helmets from Halo 4, even more so now that they don't have 343's latex fetishism overriding their weabooness.
>>334398050
I'm downloading at home, gonna play it when I go on lunch break. Last Halo I played was 3 so I guess I'll lower my expectations?
>>334397948
>he can't fathom remembering where a pickup spawns
>he can't even subtract 100 seconds from the current time
Yeah, you've got experience with item control I'm sure.
>>334392161
Leagues better than UT3, it's a proper Unreal Tournament game.
>>334398156
why do I have to zoom in to use the sniper rifle? why can't I just hold click to charge it?
>>334388090
I guess it'sDOOMED
>>334397890
It's nothing I haven't played before already,the only thing that was fun is the game mode that isnt TDM(forgot the name) being a moving king of the hill that keeps things interesting.
>>334398496
this took too long to happen
>>334397231
I remember someone from the best gamers posted a screenshot of the end game screen on twitter and asked people to guess whether its halo, destiny or doom.
>>334398492
Try the Static Cannon. It's the "on-the-move" version of the Vortex Rifle
>>334398351
>That means either the SP is actually good
Yeah, they are keeping all that goodness a secret instead of hyping it up in a well-coordinated marketing campaign.
>>334391987
I say to kill your heroes and fly fly baby don't cry, no need to worry because everybody would die, everyday just go go baby and go, don't you worry play your games with love
Wow, I never seen a mostly negative before
Why do Bethesda execs hate video games so much?
>>334388090
>ID announces DOOM
>aswell as snapmap
>already implies the game will be short as fuck
This is their way of saying, we made the game short but here you go, you have tools, make maps & expansions and shit.
>start game
>get stuck on this screen forever
Quality game.
>>334392816
Betas used to be betas. Now they're "early access" finished products that were rushed out the door to maximize profits.
Overwatch has "early access beta" for people who pre-ordered a few weeks before the game "launches" a few weeks later.
>>334397231
>Get three dudes
>Coat yourself in purple paint
>Pose at winscreen
>>334398234
I don't see how that would add anything to the game, to be honest. I've played Quake quite a bit in my time and liked it, but this isn't trying to be Quake. I think that being restricted to two weapons of your choice means that you have to think about how you play.
If you pick the super shotgun and lightning gun, for instance, your maximum engagement range is rather limited, and thus you must seek to flank or ambush enemies.
In my personal opinion, this is preferable to having (eventually) access to all the weapons, at which point you become a jack of all trades and don't really have to think your approach beyond weapon switching.
It's only called Doom for the free exposure right?
It's not like Doom 1, 2 or 3 and is not even made by the same people.
>>334398658
You haven't seen shit
http://store.steampowered.com/app/292630/
>>334392816
Go shove a fedora up your ass you filthy nigger
>>334398426
>>334398165
This is what I don't understand most.
People complain about map control so they implement loadout systems to spawn with the weapons you want.
But then D44M incorporates an aimbot weapon on a spawn timer? What the fuck were they thinking?
>>334398690
>Instead of disabling the intro or fixing the problem they made that disclaimer
>>334398407
No that was just a misunderstanding and the other grandchildren got death threats because of that. They were actually just really busy and apologized to him for that but he understood. One or two other grandchildren made it though soon after. They decided to be smart and capitalize on it and make a big cookout with Papaw shirts and shit like that.
>>334398780
whew lads, I dont understand what this even is
>>334392816
Someone probably already said it, but a lot of betas nowadays are released so close to launch that very little could be changed, if anything.
When Homefront 2 had a beta last month, everyone ripped it apart, and that game is launching next month; the same day as Doom coincidentally enough. You'd think bad beta feedback may lead to delays but no.
>>334398858
>system lags while it's frontloading a massive amount of data
wooooow.
It's like you guys have never touched a computer before. The only difference between that and what any other game does is that they've got the common courtesy to get the ball rolling while it loads, normally the game would be hanging on a splash or static screen while it does it.
>>334398780
> at least 2,682 people bought that
>>334398690
>he fell for the Nvida meme
>Return of id Multiplayer
>Dominate your opponents in DOOM’s signature, fast-paced arena-style combat. In both classic and all-new game modes, annihilate your enemies utilizing your personal blend of skill, powerful weapons, vertical movement, and unique power-ups that allow you to play as a demon.
>>334392816
Nowadays betas are finished products and the devs release them just to promote the game changing little to nothing.
>>334399140
But AMD is for poorfags.
>>334398858
>could have inserted a static Bethesda logo like they inserted that static notice.jpg screen and removed the useless Bethesda logo video causing issues
>insert a notice.jpg and leave the video and its issues
That's our Bethesda.
>>334399140
>Someone saved my eva
>>334398571
That's disappointing. I was really looking forward to fast-paced FFA death matches, not objective-based gameplay.
>>334397375
>what the fuck happened
Unreal Engine 3 & 4
>>334399081
Several minutes is unacceptable. How much shit do they need to load?
>>334399081
about 10.000 other games can load shit in the background without stuttering or use loading screens. There is no excuse for incompetence like this in a AAA game
>tfw seeing this right after my Bethesdrone friend messaged me saying Doom sucks
I warned all of you motherfuckers. You reap what you sow
>>334399213
>Pay less
>Get better product
Seems like a win-win situation to me. Do you buy Alienware too ?
>>334397890
For a minute
>>334392816
Betas then:
>Lasts for months with constantly-updated builds
Betas now:
>PREORDER THE DIGITAL DELUXE EDITION AND GET ONE DAY EARLY ACCESS TO THE WEEKEND BETA
>>334399158
>image search pic
>i never asked for this
>>334398668
they don't but this is what happens when business majors try to make games from already established names...
>>334396647
It's neo-ID. The campaign will be RAGE 2.0 at best.Which might not be terrible. RAGE had good gunplay even if the weapons themselves had no impact, outside of the based pop rockets
>>334399463
Aaaah Jesus Christ why did I image search it whyyyy
>Bethesda this, Bethesdrone that
>Game is made by id
I know /v/ is not known for intelligent discourse, but come the fuck on. Even you faggots should know the difference between developer and publisher.
I'm not an elitist, i dont care about fovs, fps, 'consolization' etc, but man was that multiplayer bland
>>334388090
>Bethesda
>>334399463
FUCK
>>334399557
What was it?
>>334399637
>weebposter
OI VEY SHUT IT DOWN GOYM
>yfw you didn't fall for the Doom meme
>>334399759
Nobody fell for that
>>334399390
all right, whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>334399728
>getting mad about anime on 4chan
>>334399557
>>334399639
>>334399720
>third pic looks like someone cutting their dick off
>Epic Butt Cyst
>>334399749
What? I can still see them. Just dropped 1% in positivity
>>334392816
Public betas are 98-99% finished product.
>Modern Doom
what did people expect?
>>334399596
ZeniMax owns id, and you know exactly what audience they're going for when Bethesda is this close to the game.
>>334398845
>are maps sucks,heres some loadout that take away the depth the game was supposed to have...
>>334399596
Except Bethesda pays for iD's development, and whoever controls the money controls development.
Hell, even independent studios under a partnership program have their dicks in a vise if Fuse and Shadows of the Damned are any indication.
>>334399749
>>334392490
Dumb niggr.
>>334399320
>>334399350
It does it a single time and doesn't do it again unless you update drivers. It's a driver issue since there isn't a single Nvidia product that can function without their bi-daily injection of game-ready-driver.
>>334399839
Is it the sudden realisation that you've been scammed that made you into such a passive aggressive cunt or were you a faggot from the start ?
Anyway, enjoy your both inferior and more expensive product friend.
>>334399947
>>334399968
id still has to be okay with the game or we would have seen several team members leave because they want nothing to do with it.
>>334400141
I wish AMD also sold a temper, maybe then you might be able to afford one.
>>334397710
>Doom will have new things
"BURBURBURBUR ITS NOT DOOM ITS FUKING HALO REEEEEE"
>Doom will keep classic things.
"JESUS CHRIST ID SOFTWARE YOU LOOK LIKE A OLD MAN THAT TRY TO BE RETRO WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEND TO YOU? FFFUUUUUCCCKKKKKK"
You fuckers will never be happy.
>>334388090
who's jova because they're the perfect satire of this fucking game.
>>334399942
I wanted Doom.
What I got is something with potential but then they it's like they shot themselves in the foot until there was nothing but a bloody stump. Then they started working on the other one.
Using the Rocket Launcher feels like I'm playing TF2 with none of the mechanical depth.
>>334400295
oh gee, this argument.
no one said the second sentence before
Nvidia fags mad that their favorite hardcore fps won't load play on their shitty comps.
Here I am blowing faggots away with my golden shotty, getting the demon power ups, and all around wrecking kids at this game. I haven't tore up ass this hard since dark zone PvP. You wish you were me.
>>334400174
You honestly think id devs would leave in protest? Devs these days treat game programming as a paycheck; the days of passion are over.
>>334400295
>Remove speed, enemy numbers, chainsaws, the original aesthetic, and level design
>Add insta-finishers, loudouts, sniper rifles, Halo's armor
>>334400295
Nice strawman
>>334400719
yes, Titanfall
>>334400641
Aren't they just as soulless and corporate-minded as the "great satan" Bethesda, then?
>>334400174
Everybody that worked on real DOOM is gone, why would they fight against the chance to cash in on a dead series with Bethesda on board?
>>334318896
Well it looks too clean to be Halo, and it doesn't have a hood so it's not Destiny. Titanfall seems to be the right answer. Although it could be Doom anyways.
>>334400368
Good to know.
>>334400926
Correct. The heart and soul of id has long since been dead.
And the brain is working for Facebook now.
when will people learn that review bombing is not to be taken seriously
>>334399356Bethesdrones don't exist, it's just a name made up for people who don't blindly hate Bethesda for existingThe More You Know
>Lightning gun
>Requires several seconds of sustained, pinpoint accurate fire to kill someone (or even more time, but slightly less accurate fire with the secondary fire mode)
>Super shotgun
>Blasts enemies away in two shots at the average engagement distance that you can splooge in the general direction of the enemy
If you want another game made in the spirit of development as DOOM 1 and 2 you'll have to look for an indie studio.ahahahaha no hope
>>334401313
You sure about that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWRiMGd16Ho
>>334399947
>>334399968
>I don't know how game development works, please rape my face
Everyone who originally worked at ID Software left over the years and then zenimax bought it, neither zenimax nor bethesda are at fault for modern ID software's garbage game
>>334401313
bunker punks
>>334392816
Yeah except public beta nowadays is just a sales stunt to get people interested in the game and maybe perform some stress testing and bug fixing while they're at it..
>>334397231
Looks like the Halo Online victory screen
>>334401407
>Spiritual successor to game based around rock solid level design that synergizes with enemy mechanics perfectly
>Level design being shat out by a random number generator hooked into a script
Pick one.
>>334401407
Nice visuals, but movement is still slow. Expand the space a little more and up the speed and movement options. Machine gun to climb walls sounds excellent.
>>334401407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef_41JpwqdE
bruh
>>334392816
>beta released a few weeks before launch
Can you consider that a beta?
>>334401597
That's because the MP is made by the same people.
>>334398496
It took me a while to understand that it's not another Carlos trick.
>>334399464
Looks like they've been pretty successful too, it used to be about making good games, now its all about profits. They know that the avg games is dumb as fuck, no point in wasting time to make games with deep/complex mechanics when the average gamer is too dumb to understand it. Make a shallow game and market the shit out of it, repeat every 1-2 years and profit.
>>334388090
Those enemy screenshots looks like a badly copy paste of models from Warframe & Planetside 2.
I cringe harder than I should have...
Only thing they got right is that weapons are unbalanced as fuck
>>334401459
Doesn't help that everything about the game says BETHESDA PRESENTS MEDIOCRITY STARING BETHESDA, so they can appeal to the lowest common denominator and Bethesdrones will still go "IT'S OKAY WHEN BETHESDA DOES IT"
>>334401670
I backed the game when it was in kickstarter and got a pre-alpha version of the first zone of the game. I could upload it if you want, it doesn't have anywhere near the features shown in that trailer, but it gives you a good taste of the speed and basic gameplay.
Can't even adjust the graphics setting, fuck 'em. Bethesda published games are always lukewarm garbage.
>>334402157
I keep hoping people will wise up, but there's always new retards to take their place.
>>334388090
lol all the positive reviews are people who admit to having never played doom before. One of them even said he "never had the chance to". Nigga the game has been free for over 20 years just go download it
>>334402196
> Mediocrity according to Bethesda
Oh, so then it's going to be a completely bug-ridden shitshow beyond the "half toilet bowl empty" affairs that is the Elder Scrolls series?
>>334391270
except that yeah, not really at all
>>334395069
largely most betas now only accomplish minor changes and fixes. Occasionally they do manage to shift some actual mechanics, but the "core" won't ever change in a beta.
If the core has to be changed...you basically remake the gmae.
>>334388090
But the game is fun?
Just like the old games, only in a good graphic.
>>334401939
>4:3 monitor
>video is letterboxed 16:9
>couldn't even be assed to have arbitrary 4:3 resolutions in the game settings
That rubbed me the wrong way.
>>334388993
>>334393857
Seriously. At least Halo understood that a rocket to the chest kills people.
>>334402426
Yes, except this won't have mods to save its ass this time around.
>>334402573
It's fun for now but without the movement options of other arena shooters it's going to get boring personally.
>>334402597
They made the rocket launcher a primary weapon instead of a power weapon so it's bee nerfed. I just hope it's still powerful in the campaign and that there's a fat rocket launcher weapon pick up.
>>334402358
I haven't played Doom prior and think it's a fun game.
I think it's pretty dumb to trash (or praise, for that matter) a game based solely on how it stands next to previous entries in the series. Then again this is /v/ and you guys will look for any reason to claim a game isn't good.
>>334402358
Do i need MS-dos computer?
>>334402765
Then don't call it Doom.
>>334400295
>strawman
>defending this garbage
Did you even play this?
>>334400153
that's clearly a cerberus soldier from mass effect 3
>>334402690
Oh even better. Every time I tried an elder scrolls game I always saw "it's better with mods", and better always translated to me as simply "only a little less shitty".
It's a damn shame they got robbed blind by EA, but honestly if this is what they're capable of I'm not surprised.
>>334402765
They're comparing it because they think the old DOOMs were good and the new one is bad. They want something as good as the old thing. It's not that hard to understand although I don't make the argument myself, I don't like it in comparison with Quake and similar games, though only in response to the multiplayer.
It got boring pretty quick but had a fun few matches, uninstalled already. Might pick it up when it's $5 or just pirate the single player one day.
>>334403062
it will be $5 in 4-5years
>>334402765
>game has the same name as one of the most well known video games ever
>" it's pretty dumb to trash a game based solely on how it stands next to previous entries in the series"
They could have just named this "Inferno" or some other generic crap and people would probably be more okay with it. I don't see why it has to shit on the original Doom just because the video game industry is creatively bankrupt
>>334403140
I just beat MGS3 for the 1st time a week or so ago. I can wait.
>>334402190
Its a bethesda game, what do you expect? of course it will be unbalanced, balance is something they could never do even if they tried.
>>334402765
You can't say "THIS IS DOOM GUYS WE ARE TOTALLY GOING BACK TO ITS ROOTS" and come out with this tripe and expect nobody to tell you to fuck off.
>>334389684
>actually add servers to the PC version instead of peer to peer trash
Its been 3 months, and Metal Gear Online still hasn't done that despite constant complaints.
I doubt D44m will be any different.
>>334403212
Will you like games to even play it then?
>>334402823
DOSbox, if you REALLY want to have the old Doom experience
or you know you could just download zDoom, Zandronum, or whatever and tweak it to more modern control schemes.
>>334397216
Considering how often you guys beg for literal console games to be ported, I'd think to you'd be fine with consolized gameplay.
>>334400153
Mass effect 3 armor set you faggot
>>334403543
>DOSbox, if you REALLY want to have the old Doom experience
>what is Chocolate Doom
>>334403042
Bethesda only allows mods in their games for a variety of reasons.
1) Mods help game sales in the long run. This is the same reason why GTA4 was so popular on PC after so many years, although unlike Bethesda, Rockstar has been militant in patching out mod support.
2) Bethesda can't be assed to do any sort of QC, so they just simply let their fans fix the game for them. Beth games do have mods referred to as "unofficial bugfixes".
3) This is why Bethesda was trying to push paid mods; not only do they get paid for an unfinished game, they will also get paid to have someone else fix the game for them.
>>334403543
>posting the old one
its fun to play. compared to most modern first person shooters with a big budget, it's fantastic. any fps fan would know this.
>it's a "fans of a genre shit on one of the few releases of that genre so hard that it's a real wonder as to why developers take the risk making a game for a dead market the small community is very likely to blindly hate anyway" episode
>>334403668
thats why i posted the accompanying image, anon
perhaps i should've said "authentic" but whatever
>>334402765
>name it literally just DOOM and saying it's returning to it's roots
>expect nobody to compare it to a game in the same series with the same name
So why would I play this if UT is around?
WHEN DOES THIS BETA END?
>>334403860
>it's a "shill tries to rationalize failure away from the game's quality just not being that good in the first place" episode
>>334403676
Which is why I don't buy from bethesda. They're shit, and if this was the way they acted back then. I'd almost say they deserved to get buttfucked by EA when it came to Gridiron.
>>334403964
never. will be same at release
>>334403991
>it's a "someone assumes I like an arena fps when I'm shitting on the entire arena fps crowd" episode
>>334403860
what genre is this even?
>>334403860
>it's a "ZeniMax produces a shitty mediocre game that soils the series forever" episode
Didn't we just have one of these a few months ago?
>>334393915
so is DOOM faster than Doom 3 or just as slow and mushy?
>>334388090
This game isn't really "garbage" per say. It's just underwhelming and unoriginal.
I would have no issue with a well done rehash or even a new original game with original content.
The problem with this game is it's an obvious attempt to "consolize" arena shooters.
They removed all the movement depth by making it so there's no acceleration, friction or anything. It's just floaty. This is garbage because it destroys any kind of movement commitment and also makes it so there's less choices in the game. There's literally no finesse to the movement.
I have to also ask why they HAVE commitment for the second double jump. Why even have it be a double jump? Why not just one big jump? If you can't change direction what's the point?
The movement is bad.
Lots of the weapons are also unnecessarily easy to aim with and the player hitboxes are huge. The rocket launcher doesn't knock people back enough or do enough damage. It should be more dangerous to the user as well.
>>334403676
They've found a way around the paid mods, all they had to do was delay the GECK and copied all the most popular mods from the previous fallouts and sell it as a DLC. Thats why you get that automatron and workshop dlc crap.
>>334404310
About the same as the Doom 3 sprint speed.
Friendly reminder:
>>334403271
>>334403271
>>334403271
>>334403271
>>334392987
>still better than Doom 3
but Doom 3 was great
>>334400153
Destiny
>>334404696
Doom 3 was a great tech demo. And not much else.
>>334393163
I laughed way more than I should have
honestly it's ok, too bad it's basically sniper shotty: the game
>>334399283
>>334398571
That mode is surprisinglyfun, I only played a couple of matches but the tension andfunis there.
Wouldn't care much for TDM tbqhfam. I kinda feel it might be dissapointing.
>>334388090
why can't I find the beta on the store?
>>334405004
i think you're confused with Half-Life 2 and the Source Engine
>You will never be in 1996 again to play Doom for the first time
>>334405398
Play serious sam 3 and act like its doom. that's what im doing now
>>334397231
guy on the right doesn't even look textured
>>334402765
It should be trashed though,for example Fallout 4 was scarcely a Fallout game and that's what matters. If it were a new IP I wouldn't care, but we're talking a full release in a series that should be making things better, not worse.
>>334402823
there're so many versions it's up to you whether you emulate DOS or not.
i cant even watch people streaming this multiplayer it looks so fucking shit.
when will someone make UT2K4 again so i can have fun?
>>334405772
Just play UT2K4 then, what's stopping you?
>>334405587
Fuck you I did,I rather play the HD remake all day.
>>334405872
my desire to bitch about how shit modern multiplayer games are
ill reinstall it now tho, hope theres a decent player base still
>>334403293
>Comparing Doom to a dead game
>>334404343
The rocket launcher shouldn't be a loadout option at all. There's no reason to use any weapon other than the RL and SS, and maybe the sniper if you want to be a tryhard.
doom of gaming
chocolate doom coop multiplayer is 6 trillion times better than this failed abortion
>>334403964
The 17th, I think.
You still have a lot of time to try it out.
>>334407128
>tfw still play Shotgun Frenzy on Zandronum
>still a fucking blast after all these years
does 4chink accept vp9 webms?
I like the shooting in this game.
I don't like doom for the generic deathmatch multiplayer though, so I hope the single player is good and there is coop survival game modes.
All I want to do is kill demons I don't give a shit about multiplayer, I hope the devs didn't commit all their resources to the multiplayer.
>>334388993
It's not fast though
>>334407419
Try it
Although they must be without audio on /v/
>>334388090
>Millennials passing judgement on a game based on nostalgia of another game that they've never played.
You're fucking surprised?
>>334407547
Supposedly iD worked on the single player and some other team did the multiplayer. The team behind Halo Reach I think.
>>334407624
>>334407419
pretty sure the only webm's with audio are on >>>/gif/
>>334407551
It's faster than Classic Doom. The movespeed is actually shockingly close.
>>334404448
This, although in Doom 3 you can go fast through strafejumping and rocketjumps
>>334407727
you must be genuinely retarded if you believe this
then again, consolefag cancer doesnt surprise me much these days
>>334397231
Oh wow.
>>334402823
Literally just buying the BFG edition of Doom 3 comes with the original and doom 2 all kitted out with mouse movement.
>>334393446
Pre Alpha: Here is a whiteboard, there isn't anything on it yet but there will be.
Alpha: Feature incomplete. Core parts of the program are still being developed. Expect placeholder resources and general instability out the ass.
Beta: Feature complete. All parts are more or less done or at least functional. Time is spent polishing what is there to a marketable standard and bugfixing. While large changes can happen it's unlikely and the core overall product is not going to change.
>>334407976
>supporting shithesda by buying censored Doom 3
literally cancer
>>334407919
I believe it. My Doom folder is about 12gb of wads.
These faggots only know Brootal Dumb.
>>334408150
You don't have to buy it...
Just saying that there are easy as fuck ways for anyone to play the original doom.
its shit
SHIIITim still having a bit of fun and hating it
I can't fucking connect. What the hell is going on?
>>334402823
Go to /vr/doom, they're chill and can set you up with what you need, unless you can't read at all. Also the SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME DOOM pic someone posted earlier.
In the meanwhile: Lies, backpedalling, or something else entirely?
>>334408264
Same.
I'm having some fun but i'm really getting any doom vibe out of it at all.
I get a Halo 4-5 taste in my mouth when i play it. Hell it even feels and looks the same in many ways.
I hope the singleplayer is atleast decent.
>>334407128
https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads
>>334408216
>enjoy BD but cant even talk about it because everyone instantly assumes youre some fag who only plays BD and hasnt even played vanilla/chocolate doom
>>334404383
To be fair, mods tend to fuck over DLC sales in theory. Mainly because if you have free mods for a PC game, then there is no point to ever having DLC because people can make their own DLC. It's no less shit but you can see their logic.
At least it's better than Battleborn
>>334407419
Error: Bad video stream. Only VP8 is supported.
well shit no high quality webms then
>>334408628
>>334408216
despite what some think of it, i find BD to be pretty fun.
almost makes it have a more modern feel, without the linear hand-holding bullshit.
just my opinion tho
>>334398102
FUCKING REKT
>>334393163
HAHAHAHA
I wasn't expecting to see that when I expanded the pic.
Well done.
>>334402196
>>334402426
>>334403042
>>334403676
>Blind Hatred: The Posts
>>334408837
>mods are bad
i wonder who could be behind this post...
>this was pretty much my only anticipated game this summer.
>>334409237
>literally has not played anything shat out by bethesda / zenimax
>>334409269
Did you not read my post? They're bad for devs because people don't need to buy DLC, they already have infinite free DLC.
ID SOFTWARE ISDOOMED
>>334395987What's the song playing during the helmet scene at around 1:08?
>>334408837
They could always make high quality DLC or not bother with DLC, and just make the next game.
Some games like M&B just take mods, polish them up, and sell them as DLC for a good profit, even.
Bethsoft too seem to like taking whatever mods they like and cramming them into patches/DLC/sequels.
Even if you're going full jew there's a place for mods
It's a pretty shitty game, but the movement isn't the main issue.
>>334409624
That's why I said that doesn't make Bethesda no less shit.
>>334409624
>bethesda
>high quality anything
>>334391270
>Rips off Brutal Doom
>Can't even do that right because Brutal Doom has actual weapon feedback and loud as fuck sounds
I'd take poorly done loud sounds with guns that cause the screen to shake than whatever the fuck Doom 4 is doing, everything feels like a toy in the worst possible way
>>334392816
BUT IS JUST A BETA
>>334409324
I'm looking forward to Shadow Warrior 2 (pretty successful reboot) and Space Hulk: Brouzouf Edition.
Played Doom since 1993 shareware, still play various .wads, had no intention of even downloading a demo for this clusterfuck, just witnessing the wreck in slow-motion.
It's id in name only, anyone expecting "Doom" should have realized a long time ago.
The good thing about this is the Quake reboot may be indefinitely postponed.
Zenimax are going to end up dissolving id after this, they destroyed Humanhead for less, Arkane devs will be shitting their pants over Dishonored 2.
>>334409421
I have played every elder scrolls game except for redguard and you are completely wrong.
>>334397231
I don't give a shit about the new doom, but what the fuck is happening.
>>334409994
This isn't id. id is doing the single player competent.
>>334388090
Trust senpai, I wish it was because the game is shit, but it's just because the port is shit.
As soon as you add a graphics yes no option all these cucks will revise their reviews to overwhelmingly positive because no-one in steam reviews has taste
>>334409482
mods are bad for devs? umm....user mods HELP them sell more copies of the game without putting any effort to it. Why bother improving your game when there are cucks out there that will do it for free. Bethesda tried to profit from it with paid mods, but when it failed, Bethesda said fuck you to those cucks and delayed the GECK and took the most popular mods from previous fallout games and releasing them as DLCs.
>>334409746
>Dishonored anbd Wolfenstein are shit
Opinion invalidated
>>334410160
>TES
>high quality
lolno
>>334410425
>LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA
Okay
>>334410368
Linear casual trash.
Are FPS games dead?
>>334410534
>Linear casual trash.
Like I said, opinion invalidated.
>>334409237
>>334410160
t. pete hines
some announcer sound file that said "classic" was leaked from the beta files, so I assume they'll update the game with a classic mode after launch, however I have to question what the devs think is actually classic. If you don't spawn with a pistol, and you don't pick up weapons on the map, and you have a two weapon limit, and the demon rune is enabled, then it shouldn't be called classic mode; bumping up the movement speed by 20% or something won't cut it.
Been playing for a short while, Im level 10. It feels like a slower version of Unreal Tournament. Havent really played that much Halo since Halo 2 so I can't really say I got that Halo feel ppl are talking about.
>>334410558
I Blame the kids
>>334408264
this
its mindless run and gun nonsense, Fun for a little while but in the end it doesn't even compare to UT and quake.
>>334398889
I do not know if you're making this up, because it sounds like something awful and stupid enough to happen in todays world. Somebody please, PLEASE wake me from this fucking nightmare.
>>334410596
Something wrong anon?
>>334410596
>if I call him someone who works for the company I hate, he has to go away!
Your wish isn't coming true, I'm still here and you're still wrong
Why didn't they just remake the original Doom?
>>334410619
level cap is 15 by the way. disappointing they didn't bump it up a bit from the closed beta. It took me 1 hour and 17 minutes of gameplay to hit the level cap. The final game though, will have a level cap of 500
>>334410619
I think when people say "it feels like Halo," they are referring more to Halo 4 and 5 after 343 shit on the series.
>>334410756
the only thing that would have pleased PCucks
>>334409538https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-WoM_4wERw
>>334410756
Because Modern ID Software is full of retards
>>334410874
Thanks anon.
>>334410756
Gotta get that epic brutal mcrip le tear audience #4thaconsolegaymurs
>>334388090
Not sure what's the issue. Game has run fine every time I've played.
>>334410756
What would that even have to entail. I wouldn't want a Doom that looks different. They'd take the atmosphere and charm the old bases have away and we're back with DooM again. I hate DooM's art.
>>334402747
Rocket spamming is horrid right now though.
>2 weapon limit
>no meele weapons
>scinematic meele kills
>terrible shotgun
>SLOW
>no weapon pickups
Its garbage.
>>334410791
Ah, yeah, that makes sense
>>334411443
switching weapon takes too long so I just roll with the default rocket
>>334410894
Ever since Romero left, that is. Carmack had good ideas and he was moving forward while most of what used to be old/first ID team left because they wanted to focus on existing engines and titles, while Carmack kept programming and pushing engine forward, now that he's gone aswell and ID isn't the boss of itself anymore shit's just going down the drain.
>>334411443
>terrible shotgun
>TERRIBLE
>SHOTGUN
>TERRIBLE SHOTGUN
are you fucking retarded? the shotgun is the best weapon in the game
>>334412004
and? it still feels like shit to use
>>334400719
Titanfall had thetacticoolest looking player models
Not to mention the most fun I ever had in a shooter
Cant wait for Titanfall 2
>>334405004
This anon is right. Doom 3 wasn't even a good tech demo.
>>334412004
>aim right at the enemy at close range
>take of 1/4th of the enemies health
Its garbage.
>>334403860
>make shit game
>get shit on
:o
>>334412004
The netcode in this game is abhorrently bad, especially for something that uses p2p networking. So if you happen to have good ping the shotgun is good but if you dont its pretty much the most useless gun in the game.
>>334412156
It has a ton of spread. You can 60+dmg with it if you git gud. A lot of people go with shotgun + melee finisher because the range on the melee is bullshit long
literally everything you asshats complain about is not an issue in the new UT. and the new unreal doesn't make your toaster catch on fire, will be completely free, and doesn't have shit netcode
how this game doesnt have more visibility is beyond me
>>334412832
Because its an alpha and has no players.
>>334412832
Because unreal tournament is actually still in alpha, whereas doom's alpha/beta are just glorified demos.
>>334412156
i have constant 60-80 damage shots up close and even at midrange it still deals around 30
>>334412262
i didn't notice any netcode issues it felt like dedicated servers on pc
>direct hit with rocket launcher
>50 dmg
that's how you know an fps is bad
>>334412118
Only multiplayer FPS I give a toss about.
Why can't other first person game do wall running right?
How do i get a screenshot from my PSN onto my computer?
>>334413204
>Caring about multiplayer
>>334399463
OH MY GAD
WHY?
>>334392816
>beta 26 days before release
>ITS JUST A BETA ITS NOT FINISHED YET
>>334412832
They haven't marketed the game yet which I think is really smart.
The amount of games that get a shit ton of publicity as soon as the first playable beta comes out and then gets forgotten about when it releases is too much.
It's much better for them to try to get new players when the game is closer to release, with more content and more balanced mechanics.
>>334412832
Because /v/ shitters say they want arena shooters but they don't
>>334388090
I think it's pretty fun, what's the issue?
>>334412832
>not on steam
nty
>down to 36% now
>>334414448
So why do you feel the need to "spare" me from what I apparently "don't" want?
Fuck people like you. Never tell other people who they are, you egotistic fuck! You can't tell me what I want and don't want! You can't tell me what I believe and don't believe!
I want vanilla WoW.
I want arena shooters.
I don't want what we have now.
You can't convince a gypsy to change his way of appeasing you until you change your demands.
>>334410368
New Order was made by Vin Diesel's company.
>>334414506
It's playable and quite fun, yes, but I wont pass my life on it or buy it at release.
How furious do you think Bethesda is at Valve right now
At the very least pushing hard to not allow reviews for betas on Steam ever again
They're gonna lose a fuckton of sales from this
>>334415747
Bethesda doesn't give a shit. It's pretty clear they are targeting consoles for this and it's getting great reception there.
>>334402765
>16
marketer detected
>>334415747
I imagine they'll be ok, because sadly the reviews won't carry over to the actual doom page. There should still be plenty of shit reviews on there once the game is out though. (Do you even need to own a game on steam to review it on steam?)
>Start first match
>Fire the shotgun
>Exit game and uninstall
It feels and sounds like a toy gun.
Anyone else having severe problems with the mouse controls? Even the menu mouse moves at a slug's pace with tons of latency.
>>334415859
>>334415949
This shit is making waves though. This could become another Daikatana, a shit "meme game" that's fun to hate on
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36052742
>>334415978
Could have been worse.Could have been the RoE SSG.
>>334415995
did you turn off vsync? Even if you did, you're probably experiencing the forced mouse smoothing
>>334416125
At worst it's going to be mediocre and have apologists left and right. Daikatana was a different beast altogether.
>>334415978
was my complaint when they revealed the game in E3.
Mods will fix it. :^)
>>334394268
fov not locked actually
>>334388090
im still gonna play the beta though cause its free and pretty much amounts to the amount of time and effort i would put in if i actually somehow bought the actual game
>>334388090
Do we know anything about the campaign? Even as a long time Doom fan I couldn't give enough fucks to equal to half a squirrel nut about multi. If campaign doesn't suck I'll probably buy it.
>>334416125
>"I still like Doom 4 but it doesn't feel like Doom 4, it feels like a sequel to Quake or Unreal Tournament," he said.
Doom 4 feels a lot more like Doom than Quake. I don't know what this guy is smoking.
>>334416141
I turned v-sync off. I know it has to do with some awful mouse accel/smoothing option but I can't even access the cfg to disable it.
I'm crossing my fingers that advanced options disables that shit but this is neo-id we're talking about.
>>334416419
That's the problem. It feels like the worst of everything, best of nothing.
>>334416373
That's what we're all waiting for.
Protip: The Multiplayer was outsourced to a B-Team Studio. ID Software designed the Single Player and the Snapmap technology.
>>334416419
It feels more like UT (especially UT99) than either of these
>double jumps
>snappy turning and decent footspeed
>weapons with a panoply of secondary functions, including a literal "shock combo" in the form of detonating rockets mid-air
>>334392816
You're looking at the full release more or less.
>>334416373
We know very little other than it has objective markers and OBJECTIVE: PUT KEY IN DOOR prompts.
If you're talking about the narrative, we know a bit more from the voiceover files that were left in the last set of beta files. Basically, it's hilarious and probably intentionally so.
>>334416569
I don't at all disagree, I'm just saying the guy in that article is retarded.
>>334388993
>"DUDE IT'S FAST
...Except it isn't. Which kinda fucks over the arena shooter aspect of it. You can even spam rockets at someones feet and they'll shrug it off and shotgun you in the face.
>>334412394
>60+
That's not good enough
>>334412394
Another trick is to jump and the M2. Diminishes spread without slowing you down.
Add static rifle to the equation and its pretty much instagib
>>334411746
Not when you have hotkeys or a dpad to select weapons
>>334405647
That's just him customized to look like that. I have to say it works.
>>334416978
Its fast paced (like every shooter but RO) but it doesn't have arena shooter mechanics. The mechanics just aren't as deep
>>334393118
Please tell me it's getting fucked so hard the ground is cracking! Also source.
>>334417273
Try strafe-jumping. That doesn't work. Ergo: Not fast.
It feels like Halo speed compared to something like Call of Duty due to slower TTK even.
>>334403579
It's Doom dude a lot of people loves that game, and if you make a sequel that is nothing like the first two games and slower than 3 then that people won't like the game
>>334415078
go get the UE4
https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4
>>334388090
It's just average which kinda sucks but now it's just become cool to hate it. most people won't even understand why and jump on the hate bandwagon...
Crate System for doom when?
>>334393915
>BrutalDooM
>It's just spray and pray
>>334388607
Both PC and console users at this point have all played and loved the original DOOM.
>>334417594
> most people won't even understand why and jump on the hate bandwagon...
that sure is the reason for 70% negative reviews :)
>>334407412
my actual nigga
>tfw the few friends that you have all think its good
kill me
>>334417843
good point
>>334417915
The 70% of people who are reviewing it won't buy it anyway.
When it comes out it will be 100% positive because the game is really good
>>334407412
>tfw finished TNT pistol start playthrough today
Even the textures that look like a wall but aren't, and are just hiding chaingunners, are more acceptable than this doom beta.
>>334417987
>Being this assblasted about your friends having different opinions
>>334417727
> craptop users and potatos
is it shit for being a shit game or shit port?
>>334417915
there are some real problems but you know damn well most of those "reviews" are garbage
>>334418224
The former.It's not really that bad but it's not what a lot of folks wanted, clearly.
>>334418224
>Implying those are mutually exclusive
>>334418075
kinda like how fallout 4 did
>>334410693
It's real, friendo. I know like five people that actually went to one of those cookouts.
There is literally no reason to not use the sniper class.
>>334418587
Static beats sniper errytime
>>334417594
>it's just become cool to hate it.
when a game has mostly negative reviews that means not even casual facebook posting dudebros are buying this trash. fallout 4 has a "hate bandwagon" but still maintains 80% positive over 50k+ reviews. the fact is id's time has long since passed and all the original talent has been gone for over a decade. they have a mediocre product that they're hoping to sell under the doom banner and nobody wants it. id needs to reinvent themselves as a developer.
>>334415430
Which is owned by Bethesda, the same as ID Software
Bethesda is not to blame for this game
>>334401407
I recall this game being shilled here when it was on its early stages.
Looked like shit then as much as it does now.
I'll stick with original "retro" shooters, thank you very much.
>>334418952
>Publisher boss is not to blame
>Implying they don't literally get to dictate and decide on the moneyflow
>Believing they have no involvement when they announced this shitty season pass DLC fuckup
I too was vaguely hopeful once. Then the alpha happened.
REPORT THIS SHIT THREAD
REPORT THIS SHIT THREAD
REPORT THIS SHIT THREAD
>>334418587
I guess a reason would be to stay consistent with your playstyle. you can set up loadouts the way you like to fit your playstyle, but it's totally possible to cripple your effectiveness in varying environments simply because of your loadout choice. This is just another problem with the two weapon limit
>>334397441
You somehow managed to nail everything wrong with the multiplayer but somehow failed at making it sound bad, even when your strawman was a whiny teenager. Congratulations.
>>334417727
I wonder who could be behind this post.
>>334419076
By your logic, New Order should be just as bad as new Doom
Where does the publisher's "evil ways" go when they publish a good game? According to you they always have their teeth sunk into every game they publish, so why is one unbelievably bad and the other is fantastic?
>>334397429
>when you realize that old uncle of you is just laughing his ass off at some random shit your generation used to glorify instead of trying to stay cool with the kids.
>>334419906
I no understnad
Todd no do this
It was, uh
Rodd. . .
This game isn't bad, but it's isn't Doom, and since it's using the Doom name, it's an awful Doom game.
Also it's very DudeBro, with the custom colors and the "wacky taunts" and the announcer and the 5 wats to get instakilled and...
>>334419972
People are more willing to accept more modern elements in Wolfenstein because the series isn't as sacred to everyone. DOOM was basically always better in every way, DOOM is far more special to most people.
>>334419972I don't understand why these publishers outsource to known bad developers. I mean the Master Chief collection took how long to get working? Why would Bethesda hand it to these guys?Did Master Chief collection even end up working at some point?
>>334419906
Casual /v/ermin. It's right there in the image.
>call it doom
>make it have 0 of anything that doom had
???
Someone PLEASE elaborate. What is bethesda thinking?
Doom 4 seems about equivalent to Perfect Dark Zero in terms of not getting the series appeal right.
>>334420313
That Doom is a brand they spent a lot of money acquiring, and it's time to get some of it back.
>>334420313
They are thinking right, you're just another moron that doesn't do his research.
Guys
Do you think the review bombing is going to result in the game/franchise being killed for the rest of us?
I mean, the game's not 100% ideal but something's fucked when even /v/ is more chill about a game than Steam's reviews are.
>>334420448
It's getting better received on consoles.
Name one good arena FPS by Bethesda.
What did you expect?
>>334420448
Don't worry, it's obvious that the reviews are written up by stupid people.
>>334420614
Not by much. PS4 and Xbox One gamefaqs boards fucking hate it.
I don't browse Reddit though so I don't know what their shit opinion is.
>>334420448
they'll let it rest and reboot it in another 2 years. while that happens they'll take new wolfenstein and totally buttfuck that. bethesda seems hellbent to ruin every franchise they have into the ground. whatever hope for dishonored 2 remains is dissolving by the day, because you know they're going to meddle with arkane's work and force them to make a shitty multiplayer component with an xp grind system and a 40 dollar seaosn pass. and its only a matter of time before they enter the tf2/overwatch/mobafps market.
>>334420448
They should just get shitaku to run a story like, "Trolls from 4chan make fake reviews of Doom beta."
Then people will discount the review score and try the beta for themselves.
>>334420448
something that died a while a go can't be deaded again. Unless the old farts from id come back which is very unlikely at any point.
rip in rest in pieces
>>334420865
iirc BBC already has an article on the shitty Steam review score.
>>334420948
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36052742
>>334420172
Beating around the bush.
If the publisher decides how a game is developed, then where do their evil ways go when a good game is made?
or perhaps the publisher doesn't actually control the developer beyond choosing to fund or cancel a game? Couldn't be the case, makes too much sense
>>334420819
MOBAFPS MARKET?! you literally made this genre up based on the fact you can do an ultimate ability in overwatch.
>>334392816
Doom beta is pretty much like the Division beta.
>>334421513
so what is Battleborn then?
>>334421513
ive heard them also called "hero shooters" the genre is not made up anon, its a genre that is however in its infancy.
After Killing Floor 2, this has to be the most disappointing FPS I've played in quite some time.
>>334421783
Hero shooter is made up specifically by the Battleborn people.
>>334392816
>implying the complaints about the shitty speed, the weapons having less impact and feedback than Nerf guns, and loadouts aren't all complaints that could be fixed
quit pretending people don't actually have anything they don't like about the game.
>people defending jewson pass on steam reviews to counterattack bad reviews
i fukken give up. Die eating your own shit kids
>>334420313
>What is bethesda thinking?
>"Holla holla get dolla, smoke casuals every day"
>>334421513
the genre exists, monday night combat existed before and did the exact same thing overwatch is trying to do
its just a type of game that nobody likes, mobafags dont like skill-dependent actions like aiming and shooterfags dont like cooldowns and painfully long ttk
>>334420810
I just checked /r/doom for you, and after browsing through a few circlejerks, I can sum up their opinion as following:
80% it's good
20% it's bad
80% lol stop being so obsessed with having a 1 on 1 copy it's good for what it is
20% but it's not doom ffs
80% ayylmao you're just old bitter and can't deal with change it's good
>>334408489
Why is it locked ?
That makes no sense
>>334400153
Doom.
I don't really see what's so bad about it.
I'm just looking for a singleplayer and i'd have bought it even if it didn't have a multiplayer whatsoever.
Why every single game has to be competitive bullshit these days, do people even play for fun?
>>334422098
Consoles
>>334422171
the problem isn't that the multiplayer is bad, it's that the core game is bad.
The campaign is going to be just as shit as the multiplayer.
>>334422268
Prove this statement please.
>>334422098
>Why is it locked?
Because Id Tech 3 is an absolute shit engine, hence why both Rage and Wolfenstein TNO had awful texture pop-in, poor textures in general even on max settings, and 60fps caps.
>>334400295
You're over-complicating the issue. It's not new elements vs. old elements. It's a good game vs. a mediocre / bad one.
>>334400153
planetside2
>>334422036
how many moderator deleted posts are there
companies recently have been buying out the moderation staff almost immediately in situations like this so they can create and maintain a narrative
>>334412118
Titanfall wasunder appreciatedas fuck.
>>334422036
Its Batman v Superman all over agan
>>334422389
>It's not new elements vs. old elements. It's a good game vs. a mediocre / bad one.
This. How many fucking times do we need to repeat this?
You can make a modern shooter that's not a sluggish perkfest. Yes, even on consoles.
>>334422374
note how slow and shitty the movement is and how all the weapons have the oomph of throwing a cotton ball at a pillow
>>334422268
If it's going to be something similar to Wolfenstein: The New Order, it's good enough for me.
Even if there is no story elements and it's just shooting monsters non-stop in arcade-like fashion, it's still good enough for me.
>>334422673
"Even if it's shit it's still good enough for me."
get some standards
I really dont get why this "beta is so small"
Its timed, might as well show 90% of the options, just show everything and it will leave a better impression
Overall my opinion?
Its shit
It just dosnt work, spam granades and shotgun and hope for best
rockets do shit all, and plasama, machine gun dont kill fast enough
i have no fucking clue whats the point of that charging weapon while you move, seems retarded since its not even 1 shoot 1 kill
>>334418915
>>334418915
nah. Sniper charges quicer and has more moments of oneshotting
>>334422741
>No fun allowed.
>>334423294
This is Bethesda we're talking about, we'll be lucky if we have any amount of fun before the shit engine bugs out.
>>334422495
FIGHT NIGHT
![[takes intense bite].png](https://i.imgur.com/LBnojV9.png "[takes intense bite]")
