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41% of the 1744 user reviews for this game are positive


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Why are they ruining the legacy of my favourite ever game? Just stop it, stop it.
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>/v/ will shit on this game endlessly yet go "IT WASN'T THAT BAD" whenever Doom 3 is mentioned
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>BBC
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>>334386789
The Zelda Cycle applies to all.

Not defending.this game at all. I know fuck all about it. But this happens every time.
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>>334386789
You forgot "who care ok" and "I liked it", with a good share of "it's pretty good if you ignore" deflection.
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the people who like it are casuals and underagefags who praise anything.

People that don't are those who actually play fps/games.
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>>334386791
better than most
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>>334386682
>Tokyo cuteness craze : the adults that want to look like children
is this 1994 again?
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Don't worry, anon. It's just the multiplayer beta. It's not like Doom was ever a MP franchise.
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>>334386682
it's better than counter-strike.
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>>334387061
If I were your boss, I'd deathmatch ya in a minute!
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>>334386682
AAA western games are aimed at people who don't actually play video games.
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it's just an article about cosplay
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>>334387158
That seems counterproductive
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>>334386987
>britshit cancer
>better than most
top fucking lel. they are worse than the usa and even worse than the soviets when it comes to espionage and manipulating public opinion
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>>334386982
The people that don't like it are the people that actually liked Doom 1 and 2.
I know plenty of faggots that play God awful CSGO and are super hyped for this
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>>334387157
What if you were waiting for an important phone call?
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I'm curious why people are shitting on it though?

It plays like an excellent doom. Is it because people want weapon sway, instead kills and 360 no scopes?
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>an AAA game gets knee-jerk reaction by the steam player base
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>>334387513
Because it's halo + cod and nothing like doom.

>in b4 someone says all fps need to be this way because modernization
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>>334387513
>It plays like an excellent doom
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>>334387430
Get outta here and go back to your boring programs.
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>>334387513
>no advanced mobility tools

No thanks
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>>334387634
>halo + cod
No it's not, did you even play it?

>>334387678
I've played all the doom games, this plays identical, the only difference is this has some weird ass crouch button for no reason.
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>>334387513
>It plays like an excellent doom.
No, it doesn't.
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>>334387227
I see you've never made a map that's designed to have an obvious choice and watch people make the wrong decision because it's what follows the "strategy guide".
people don't "play" games. they experience content in the community for likes and subscribes.
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it's down to mostly negative
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>>334386682
The problem is it's for the multiplayer, and who the fuck cares about Doom multiplayer.
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>>334387797
perks, the movement, gunplay, the shitty powerups

it's halo + cod, didja even play it?
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>>334386789
Doom 3 multi sucked ass
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>>334387227
The less time they spend playing a single game, the more likely they'll buy more games to play.
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>>334386789
To be fair, Doom 3 wasn't THIS bad. Was it bad? Yeah. A case could maybe be made that it would have been ok if it wasn't a Doom game, but nobody can argue that it was a shitty doom game. D44m, on the other hand, is shaping up to be miles worse.
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>>334386682
so how many shitty jump scares will be in this one?
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>>334386682

User reviews:
Overall:
Mostly Negative (2,642 reviews)

kek, it's even lower by now with 38%
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>>334386789
>yet go "IT WASN'T THAT BAD" whenever Doom 3 is mentioned
>>334388023
>To be fair, Doom 3 wasn't THIS bad.

kek
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>>334387634
What the fuck is like doom, then? Do you want the game to not have movement on the z axis? Now that's doom as far as I remember it.
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>>334388023
>doom 3 wasn't this bad
it was actually worse but it sold because we weren't disappointed yet
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Is it again this kind of thread where people whine about the fact that games changes and its not possible to make the same game like 20 years ago?
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>>334387797
are you fucking serious? Identical?
Fucking retard
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>>334388128
>camerons dad avoiding tax
Who gives a shit?
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>>334387678
>>334387820
For fuck's sake, stop non-response greentexting, and explain why it's bad. I came into this thread wanting real, tangible reasons why this game is bad, and I've yet to see anything legit, which leads me to believe that it's just the typical /v/ pattern of shitting on whatever the new flavor of the month is.

I don't have a dog in this fight, because I personally haven't played a Doom game in over 15 years, and don't really care, but I'm genuinely curious as to why it's bad.
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>adults wanting to look like children.
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>>334388128
All right point taken scunner.
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>>334388207
fast action paced not CoD carbon copy without weapon limit no executions or QTE to get in your way better attention to monster designs and scenario? I mean, it's not that hard to fucking fix their shit before it sinks
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Tell me more about Tokyo's cuteness craze
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Why are people surprised that it sucked?

John Romero is what made doom great.

no romero, no doom, simple.
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>>334387924

cod kiddies have only played shooters with perk trees so they think doom had them
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>Another thread where 15 year olds pretend to be 37 year olds who grew up on Doom/Quake
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>>334388207
A simple doom 2 clone would be best, just with better graphics. Everything from doom 1 and 2 would be good.

The way the maps are designed, secrets, music, the guns. Zero reason to change any of this, the shit they changed is much worse, just look at the guns, the shitty damage indicators, the music that nobody wants. And dat shiet is jus 4 starters

>>334388489
I'm actually 35 alright, get the number correct!
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>>334388341
>he doesn't know why it's bad
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>>334388417
>perks
map power ups are not perks you imbecile

>>334388293
Oh do go on about the differences.

are you upset that you can aim up and down now?
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>>334386682
>install the beta
>play one match
>just run and gun gameplay
>first match, lets see what its like
>dont bother with gay demon rune shit
>mutilate other team
>18-2 k/d
>uninstall immediately.

Yeah its gonna be a no from me.
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>>334388489
idk about everyone else but I grew up with wolfenstein/doom/duke3d/commander keen
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>>334388412
>John Romero will make you his bitch
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>>334388228
I want games to change I just want them to design them correctly instead of as some shit.
aka lots of simple concepts coming together to create a complicated whole.
also, not slow, highest skill ceiling possible with the lowest skill floor possible.
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I actually really like Call of Duty, but I hate games that try to BE like CoD. Call of Duty is a pretty fun multiplayer FPS when you're playing it, it isn't great, but it's fun. Games that modernize and become more and more like CoD though are basically removing the only reason to play them, because if you wanted to play CoD you'd just play CoD. Just make your own god damn games.
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https://youtu.be/dOgbdwzMxkE
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>>334386682
>of my favourite ever game
It's not your game anymore, grandpa! It's the game of people like me who grew up with the Xbox 360 as their first console and before you scream "UNDERAGE!" I'm 20 years old and got the 360 when I was 9 and I've been on 4chan since I was 13 so I know what long cat is long means.

You are not the boss of us now. Now gb2 Pong and Pac Man. I'm going to get the new Doom for my Xbone and I'm going to enjoy it and there is nothing you can do about it.
Also check my 6
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>>334388735
this site is for 18 years old and over
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>>334388412
Not really, it was the combined efforts of a bunch of guys, and a lot of luck.
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Alright, I'll be honest, I never played Doom multiplayer, only the single. What was it like, especially compared to Quake and why is D44M so bad compared to it?
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>>334388341
>its slow
>everyones a bullet sponge
>demon shit is retarded
>guns are basic as fuck
>rocket launcher is a main gun, and its awful
>takes like 40 plasma rounds to kill someone
>theres a 1 shot gun that spawns
>its incredibly underwhelming
>melee is a joke, does nearly no damage
>demon dude is just someone you avoid
>not really that incredible
>jumping is shit
>no running or sprinting

its legit a bad fucking version of halo multiplayer, and halo multiplayer, is shit anyways.
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>>334388412
It's totally his fault though, Carmack wanted to commit and Romero was being a drama forcing his point of view while at the same time not putting in enough effort

I suppose by that time the fame and money got to him and he wanted to dictate and not to do, a shame since in his Doom days he seemed passionate about making the game instead of just barking orders
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>>334388864
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>>334388921
This shit right here.
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>>334388864
Even if he is underaged he still has a point
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>>334388489
I'm only 25, and I grew up on Quake. I still regard it as the most mechanically sound shooter ever.
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>>334388864
Call of duty 4 came out in 2007. Someone who was 9 when Call of Duty 4 came out can post here. Kill yourself, grandpa. You don't belong here anymore you sad sack of shit.
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>>334388489
You don't need to be a wizard that played Doom when it was released to tell that this is awful
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Game is okay.

I don't like the loadout system though
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>>334389118
samefag detected.
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This is probably one of the best things that could happen, I though that dudebros we're going to love this shit because "DUDE IT'S LIKE HALO BUT WITH GORE"

Maybe gaming still hasn't gone to the shitter.
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>>334388943
>BS I pulled out of the ass: The Post
There is enough material out there how things went down and when you meme parroting kiddies start with your MUH CARMACK IS GOOD OH GOD LET ME SUCK YOUR DICK BUT ROMERO IS THE BADDY BOOGEYMANG! you instantly discredit yourselves as little, shit inhaling parrots.
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>>334389172
/thread
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Its alrightm just won't have enough content to keep someone contempt.
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Serious Sam 4 when?
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>>334388921
>its slow

this a million fucking times

why did they make it so fucking slow
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>>334389224
But he is the bad guy.
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>>334388489
I'm almost 22 senpai, the PS1 version of Doom was one of my earliest games
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>>334389427
>Had the PS1 version of Quake 2
I don't know how the fuck I managed to finish it with the shoulder buttons being 'look up/down'.
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>>334389224

>there is enough material out there, so I am just going to throw in insults that will make my point solid

Fuck off you underaged retard, there are several interviews, recordings, hell, even documentaries that support the claims that Romero just wanted to have his way while putting in minimal effort, even the goddamned wikipedia page lists it which is a shame

Don't you find weird or at least are too goddamn stupid that you can't put two and two together and check how many companies has Romero been chased off from by now compared to how steady Carmack has been?
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>>334388907
>No jumping
>Sliding about at 40mph
>SSG swingshots and instakills
>rocket spam
>BFG spamming
>Cheesy midis
>Dwango5 map01... again

Original Doom deathmatch is okay, it's a bit hokey. The real value is historic. Download ZDaemon and try some CTF it's great fun.
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>>334389386
because kids cant keep up with a fast-paced good game
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>>334389224
Do you have a quick summary?
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>>334389224
Even in Masters of Doom, which fairly tries to paint both Johns as assholes, has Carmack coming out looking infinitely better because he wasn't a hothead that couldn't get anything done.
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>>334389574
>Download ZDaemon
Fuck no, that's closed-source software.
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>>334387348
Do people even try anymore?
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>>334388489
i remember going to "computer classes" in primary school because the teacher let us play wolfenstein after class
thats how i learned to use msdos
29 years old
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>game is hated by everyone else
>/v/ will love it


>game is loved by everyone else
>/v/ will hate it

And the /v/ contrarian circle continues endlessly so they can be a special snowflake
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>>334389882
>mfw internet was a huge thing but still dial up
>mfw local cafe internet had computers connected through LAN
>casually stroll one day to copy some documents for school
>everyone playing doom and like 2 computers free
>rent one as fast as possible and play against everyone else for like 3 hours until I ran out of money
man, I liked doom but from that time onwards I loved doom
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>>334389985
>game is hated by everyone else
>/v/ will love it

yeah because I see people on /v/ defending Thi4f
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>>334386682
This game feels weird to play
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>>334389985
I don't see anyone here liking daikatana
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>>334389985
>not liking what you like despite what anyone says
faggot
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>>334389985
everyone hated this game, not just /v/, argument invalid
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I only played it a bit, kinda surprised it seems to be a bit less shitty than I expected, but I don't really care about arena FPSs so I'll just pirate the SP when it comes out
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>>334389985
>waaah /v/ doesn't share my opinion that means they're just contrarian!
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>>334389698
OK Stallman, I'll see you on Odamex. Oh...
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>>334390156
it had the greatest ad ever atleast
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40% for steam is fucking dog shit
steam reviews are basically the same as any regular review, if it's below a 6 you know it's fucking bad
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>>334389985
>game is hated by everyone else
>/v/ will love it

>implying anyone on /v/ would like a complete shitshow mockery of Doom even to be ironic
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>-We want halo audience- THE GAME


DUUUUMB
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>>334387430
He'd have to beat you quickly then.
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I dislike it because I get like 30 fps despite having a good PC and putting it on the lowest resolution doesn't even make a difference.
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THEY HID THE NEGATIVE REVIEWS!
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>complain that enemies in CoD die too fast, effectively making in a "first to see first to kill"
>complain that enemies in Doom4 are bullet sponges
>complain that Doom4 is like CoD

How can this 3 be happening at the same time?
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>>334389985
>go into a thread where the OP states the majority think a game is shit
>the thread is full of Anons who think said game is shit

The autism is strong in you. You're the one who seems to be unable to see past your own nose.
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>>334386682
I don't get it. All you have to do is take Serious Sam and reskin everything with Doom assets, then just make maps with those assets. That's it. You had one job.
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>>334390738
Nice bait fàm
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>>334390540
Wait really?
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>>334386789
Doom 3 is unironically one of my favourite games of all time. Doom 2 being my favourite.
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I think the big issue is this: The guns are designed and balanced for fighting demons, not other players, and that's where things get troublesome.

Take the Super Shotgun. At point blank, it'll one-hit kill weak enemies like Imps. That other enemies like Pinkie Demons take three or so shots at the same range from the same gun tells you "Oh - shit. These are considerably chunkier!". No such distinction exists here.

Also, sniper rifles and rat-a-tat assault rifles in a DOOM game was a horrible idea.
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>>334390895
Yes, can confirm.
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>>334387072
that's a really low bar
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>>334390895
Yes
Nearly every dev does this because they cannot handle criticism and want a fast buck
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>>334390959
serious question: what is wrong with you?
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>>334386682
maybe next time id won't outsource the multiplayer to the retards behind halo 2
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>>334391154
>criticism
>99% of replies
>THE GAME IS FILLED WITH HACKERS
>GAME IS SHIT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T RUN ON MY LAPTOP FROM 2003
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>>334391238
nobody is complaining about that on the doom page though
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>>334390965
The SSG was able to do upto 225 damage in Doom 2.
What damage does it do in Doom 4?
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>>334391408
Then give an example of a worthy complaint.
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i hope the sp will have tons of audio tapes to tell the story
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>>334386789
It's realy just nostalgia.

Young kids who play this first will love it since they don't know any better and older players won't like as as much. As the kids get older and the old generation leaves the scene it'll apear that the communities opinions changed.
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>It's the daily "I see people playing it on twitch so it's good and I don't care about your objective criticism" vs people who actually played doom 1/2
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Worst arena shooter I ever played.
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>>334392078
its a "look at muh score and pls ignore the kills as demon" post
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so do enemies still glow in single player to have a kill animation
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>>334390895
no
I can see all 1773 negative reviews
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>>334386682
Colleague of mine is really hating on that game aswell. I don't care too much though, wouldn't have bought it even if it would've been the best game ever.
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>>334392193
holy shit look at all those mute icons
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Can we talk a bit about that fucking announcer and how it's a crime against multiplayer shooters?

Motherfucker puts me to sleep
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>>334392221
Post the best/funniest ones
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Played it for a little bit and it plays and looks like every other modern fps down to the two weapon scheme, loadouts, unlockable weapons and everything, I guess people are hyped for this game because of the history the name carries and that's about it.

Overrall I can't see your average guy buying this over the newest CoD or Battlefield, there's nothing in this game that other games haven't done before and better since existing FPS franchises had enough time to improve their winning formulas while doom 4 is a newcomer.

I thought Duke Nukem Forever was a good lesson for developers to learn that resurrecting old classic franchises isn't exacly a good idea but I guess some people don't learn.
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REMINDER the MP is being done by Certain Affinity
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>>334392358
You want it sound like the Brütal Doom taunts guy?
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>>334392397
>resurrecting old classic franchises isn't exacly a good idea
They'll keep doing it, because the name guarantees that idiots will buy it based on that alone.
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>>334392368
Bethesda: what kind of Doom game do you want?
Doom fan: give me that older FPS vibe with better graphics
Bethesda: is Halo 5 old skool enough? say no more senpai
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Call of Doom: Advanced Copypasting
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If this is doom then im the pope
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(this one is actually a positive one)
Jonathan Mcintosh said DOOM was disgusting, so I preordered it.
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Pros
+Didn't need to update to a new version of dos

Cons
-No pixel graphics
-I have to aim up and down
-I spawn with more than a pistol
-Its doesn't cater to all my wishes
-Its not a complete redux of doom 1 and its a new game


just a few
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>>334392397
croteam did it for serious sam and it was fine. looking forward to the 4th game
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>>334392523
kek, thanks.
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>>334392078
>demon mode
At least try man.
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>>334392358
>we will never have Brian Blessed announcer

Why live?
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>>334388341
id rather see you explain why its good

>>334388921
is on point
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>>334392193
He still has a better k/d than anyone else if you subtract the demon kills.
Also, demon is part of the game dummy. Anyone else could've just grabbed the power up.
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>>334386682
The multiplayer is shit.
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>>334392193
Seems like he has good stats, what is your point? Not that I know for sure or understand what it means to play as the demon.
But listen here anon: There are 2 Opinions over this game present in this thread.

One is the game is good stuff (you) and the other is, it's horse shit and an insult to the original series.
The guy above, who is actually playing the game says it's shit. So I would argue his post is actually helpful for other guys and in no way to be seen negative.
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>>334386682
No wonder developers don't want to touch pc. It's too risky.
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These people are really bad.
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>>334392854
anyone who isnt retarded knows that its shit
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>>334387051
im okay with this
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>>334392870
>kill-a-holic
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>>334386682
Now I don't think that Doom looks good, but someone actually taking Steam "reviews" seriously is a fucking retard.
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>>334388921
>takes 3 ''super'' shotgun shots to kill some inches away from you
Honestly disgusted
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You can never have a good fps if it's multiplatform. Shits always get nerfed down, look what happened with BF and COD.
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>>334386682
>Expecting old games to do well in this time
Were you one of the people who thought Godzilla was gonna do well too?
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DooM2 death match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQbkE09nIc
DooM3BFG death match
(CS)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aY6grG5CUk
(PC)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccPw4nifHQU
BrutalDooM death match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZejaOFS5bU
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>>334393181
>You can never have a good fps if it's multiplatform.
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So it's CoD-oom?
That sucks, but is also unsurprising.
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>>334393181
how about you go fuck yourself
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>>334393103
Gotta appeal to those edgy kids man.
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>>334393132

That guy's nuts, 2-shotting people from up close is the norm. A solid SSG hit will deal 60+, it may be possible to deal more (I'm not sure if headshots deal more with the SSG)
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i feel ...CasualQuakeDoom (COD HALO future mixings)
but, not like cod and halo.
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>>334393419
ABSOLUTELY CANCEROUS
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>>334386682
KAWAII DESU NEE
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>>334387051
Seems like Westerners will never understand Japan.

Why do every adults have to be sexy? What's wrong with cuteness?
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What's with the shotgun? At times I one-shot enemies, other times it takes 3/4 shots.
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>>334393541
sexy>cute
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>>334388591
Why aren't there mid-tier weapon pick ups?

Why is movement so slow?

Why is there a sniper rifle?

Why are glory kills so stiff?

Why is the kill frame shorter than fucking cod?
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>>334393591
Multi Play dose not nomal Shotgun.
only Quake3 Like Super Shotgun .
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>>334388360
>having anime number 1000 centered around high school or involving middle school or high school kids
It's really just about a strong nostalgia for childhood, so it's only partially right
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>>334393704
>Why is there a sniper rifle?
altnate nerf Railgun.
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>>334386682
>DOOM® returns as a brutally fun and challenging modern-day shooter experience
That already says enough.
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>people compared Halo to Doom back in 2001
>now 15 years later people compare Doom to Halo

POTTERY
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>>334393529
You know you love it. I mean, just look at this weapon skin.
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>>334393398
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Yourself.

Truly one of my favorite game series
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>>334386682
DUDE KILLMOVES LMAO
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>>334386682
The legacy of Doom is for its singleplayer, fucking idiots crying already when it can still be good.
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>>334392397
can you headshot?
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>complaining because it doesnt play exactly like the genre neither you or anybody play anymore

Fucking posers. Every time a classic fast paced Arena shooter comes out you all ignore it. I am glad they made these changes to Doom MP. It is fun.
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>>334393848
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>>334393003
I wonder if pc gaming will die in the next 15 years as developers don't want to touch it as it costs too much money and pc gamers don't trust developers anymore.

I personally think pc gaming will not die but will become extremely limited.
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There have been several contenders to resurrect twitch shooters and nobody turned their head when they were released. Shadow Warrior, Hard Reset, Serious Sam 3, Rise of the Triad - all failed miserably.

And they failed for a reason. What you want is essentially archaic gameplay in current-gen graphics.

Just let it go. There's no evolution in regression.
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>>334394024
you forgot the (tm), you dont get paid if you forget that
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>>334394045
It even has groovy dance moves.
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>>334394024
>Every time a classic fast paced Arena shooter comes out you all ignore it.
Such as?
>inb4 rephlex or toxxik
Tribes was loved by many untill the devs fucked it up.
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>>334393996
Yes you can.
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>>334386789
>Doom 3
>bad
hop off the bandwagon, faggot
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>>334394158
Please stop.
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>>334392078
It's not an arena shooter.
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do you think that anyone would care about the game if it was called "demon hell" and people would say "WOW this looks like old doom"?
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>>334394287
I can't anon, these moves are just too sick to pass up.
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>>334387061
so, you've literally never played Doom
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>>334393310
> DooM2 death match
kek, this is amazing. i love how quaint it is, and how much the crowd are into it
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>>334393920
I've been following Doom 4 news since it was announced. I'll say what's good and bad. I've played doom 1,2 and 64 btw
Pros:
>Keycards
>secrets
>non linear design
>story for those who want it
>secret levels (e2m8 is one of them I forgot the rest)
>all classic monsters are in except Pain Elemental

Cons:
>Perk system (e.g faster doomguy, "magnet" like ability to get ammo, health from a farther distance
>Pain Elemental is no where to be seen
>Can be linear if you choose to not explore
>weapon wheel

I have a shitty memory but this is all I can remember atm
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>people wanting this game to be faster
>all the old doom games were slowb compared to other shooters of its time
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>>334394380
GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER
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>>334389985
Generally may be true, but not always. There's more people ITT hating the game than liking it.
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>>334394380
Those awful armor designs and colors
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>>334394375
if this game wasn't called doom it wouldn't have hundreds of millions invested in it and no one would ever had heard about it
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>>334394068
development costs for gaming are at an all time low
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>>334394024
I play ut4 on a regular basis so you can fuck off shill
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>>334388207
fast paced, non linear FPS with some cleverly hidden power ups, and a shit load of enemies, along with having more than 3 choices in difficulty.

Its not asking for much.

like, god damn anon
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>>334394073
shadow warrior and serious sam are both getting sequels
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>>334391892
>everything can and must be this black-and-white

Legitimate symptom of autism you got there, anon.
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>>334394519
Just remembered
>someone's head on a spike
>difficulty levels are the same (dont hurt me to nightmare)
>monster design can vary in quality
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>>334388489
28 here, i remember installing all sorts of shareware shit on school computers.

but, hey, whatever you think will float your boat, fag
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>>334394539
She's dead actually, and the ashes were already spread.

>>334394568
Just think, someone is being paid to make these.
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>>334392397
> resurrecting old classic franchises isn't exactly a good idea
DXHR was good, TR was ok, it can be done
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>>334393818
>modern-day shooter
Won't stand out enough for the modern audience to notice and it's guaranteed to piss off older fans in the process.
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>>334386682
Because modern AAA developers literally have no clue how to make a good game anymore. The teams are also too big now. Games have no 'soul' anymore. They're merely corporate juggernauts designed to reap cash. Code monkeys working 9 to 6 for a paycheck every day don't give a fuck and directors just wanna appeal to the lowest common denominator to sell as many copies as possible. Hell most of the budget spent on games ends up going on marketing and paid reviews anyway.
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>>334390965
it also comes from the fact that you don't have to search for it. When you can easily start with super shotgun or rocket launcher, the game would be immediately broken if they were still as strong as they were in SP. scale those back in MP to give people a chance to play fairly. It's an ass backwards solution to a non problem that was solved during the era of quake and unreal. they threw the baby out with the bathwater, i don't understand how they came to the conclusion of nerfing weapons to fuck instead of getting rid of the loadouts.
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>>334394443
doom doesnt have multiplayer you umderage
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>>334395108
it had multiplayer but it was always kinda meh
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>>334394985
TR was super linear, aside from those crappy "temples"
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>>334394897
Says the legitimate faggot
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>>334394962
If someone showed me this screenshot and said "this is Doom now" back then, I would've laughed.

Fuck modern gaming.
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>>334395108
Doom 1 and 2 multiplayer was terrible. It was just rocket and super shotgun spam with no form of advance movement techniques, spawn-killing and really repetitive gameplay.

Quake is the multiplayer game, not Doom. I will not judge the new Doom until the single player is released as that is what matters.
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>>334395306
I know... I just dont get it man.

Like who the fucking fuck thought that actually looked good? Who the fucking son of a bitch gets paid to make that shit??
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>>334395108
um yeah it did

im pretty sure your choices of connecting to opponents was through IPX, Serial, and maybe modem.

i really should go get me a MS-DOS / Windows 3.1 virtual machine up and running, though for a refresher
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>>334395306
>>334395496
All the armor feels like they are attempting to pull in the Destiny crowd. It's just bad.

>in match
>some guys starts going off how this is overwatch should play
>another chimes in and says it reminds him of halo 1
>wishes all shooters were like this
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>334395480
This.

Just played a few matches of the multiplayer. Seems a bit shallow to me compared to something like UT or quake.

I enjoyed what I played, but I don't see myself spending a lot of time in it.

Seriously hoping the single player is going to be good, but from what I've seen of it, it doesn't look like a day 1 purchase either.
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>>334395651
>All the armor feels like they are attempting to pull in the Destiny crowd.
lol, on top of the fact that the game is already a pseudo-doom skin of halo right? s m h
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>>334386789
>DOOM 3
>ever bad
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when is doom 4 coming out? how come they havent shown any new sp footage since around e3?
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>>334395762
lmao senpai XD smdh
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>>334395841
fuck off neo /v/
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>>334386682
>Up to 1909 negative reviews now, mostly from people claiming to love Arena FPS and have a burning desire for a new one
>UT4 empty
>Literally no activity on Reflex servers outside of Europe
>Quake Live still holding onto its last breath
>CPMA, Q3, WSW still only playable through IRC pugs
>
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>>334395863
your impotent rage makes me lol 2bh
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>>334395762
no way desu ne
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>>334395841
Doom 3 and RoE were pretty fun in Single player.

and, of course there's those mods - one of the more popular ones being Dark Mod, and then there's Classic Doom 3.

it was pretty damn enjoyable.

didnt care much for the multiplayer aspect, though,
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>>334395215
i know, i'm just so tired of games being disappointing that i have to pretend they're good
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>>334394519
>Can be linear if you choose to not explore
Yeah, but so can completely open world games with next to no thought towards linear design at all.
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I knew the MP was going to be hot fucking garbage
it resembles halo more than doom, it's goddamn embarrassing.
but what about the campaign? Do we have any clue what to expect? I can overlook a shitty MP.
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>>334395948
Arena shooters are dead, they have been for years. They are in the same grave as RTS games.

People should get use to it, making an arena shooter is just flogging a dead horse.
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>>334395480
That didn't stop Doom multiplayer from being so popular it actually brought down multiple enterprise networks from the sheer load the deathmatching employees placed on them
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>>334396230
>what about the campaign?
The fact that there is no hands-on footage of the campaign coming out should tell you how bad it is.
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>>334396274
>That didn't stop Doom multiplayer from being so popular
What was is it really competing against though?
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>>334396175
i mean shit, is having some non-linearity so hard in modern vidya?

all this linear, hand holding, no thought required bullshit is just, well after so long im no longer disgusted, im just tired of it
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>>334396230
hey noob out noob!

doom multi has never been good
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>>334395938
>ree stop liking what I don't like
fuck off cunt
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>>334396262
Yeah, that isn't the point. The point is that this has people coming out of the woodwork claiming to love arena shooters for the sake of credibility and yet the best ones around haven't been able to fill a single server for the last 24 hours, the same time all this activity from self proclaimed arena FPS lovers happened.
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>>334395948
>two games in alpha state with no marketing have niche audience
>16 year old re-released game attracts thousands of concurrent players
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>>334396262
we can thank consolefags for all that
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>>334386682
>my favourite ever game
Not only do you have shit taste but you're apparently British. I'm sorry but there's not much we can do for you. Have you considered suicide?
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>>334396407
that's not an excuse for it to be shit this time around you idiot
>>334396361
you're probably right, goddamn this is pathetic.
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>>334396461
>ree stop disliking what I like
fuck off neo /v/
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Why is everyone so surprised Doom Multiplayer is bad?

all doom multiplayers were bad, what matters is the singleplayer, end of story
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>>334396407
>hurr durr my opinion is le trooth

kill yourself nigger
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>>334396571
>all doom multiplayers were bad
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>>334396520
You sound like a fedora wearing faggot
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>>334396648
you first fag
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>>334387348
Yeah I learned about Britain by reading 1984 too
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>>334396678
>le penn maymay
>old enough to remember bbs dialup multiplayer
choose one
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>>334386682
>Doom

Do people actually like this trash? >>334386682
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>>334396678
every doom multiplayer i played are filled with players spamming the rocket and the SSG.

and history repeats itself in the beta
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>>334396568
you're not even trying
>>334396571
it should have been improved this time around
instead its an abomination resembling halo and quake that does neither any justice at all.
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>>334388090
hey someone else post another doom 41% thread I don't think we have enough
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>>334386682
>>334388228
>>334388571
>>334388605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOgbdwzMxkE
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>>334396502
>Revived series attracts thousands of people CLAIMING to love arena shooters within the span of about 8 hours
>Any actual arena shooter remains empty during this timeframe

I can totally feel all the love from the 1900+ pro arena shooter lovers in the empty servers of every single arena shooter to exist bruh.
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>>334396274
Yes, but there was a major reason for that. There was no game like it. There was no game like Doom and gamers were amazed. Doom made Deathmatch and had no competition.

Now you have loads of Doom clones that try to take part of it's legacy. They're unaware that it's legacy is a sinking ship that's almost sunk.

GTA 3 is another good example. When it was released, it was unrivaled and no game could compete with it. What did you have after? Lots of GTA clones of course.

What this says about gamers is that we want new and exciting games but the market changed and gamers started to dislike change as once you play a game that you like, trying to get the original feeling is near impossible as that's the game that you grew up liking.

Now change is not happening as developers fear the risk. We fear it too and now everything stays the same.
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>>334396852
why would I try for neo /v/aginas
top kek
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its at 37% now

top ramen
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Is zenimax making this game?
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>the melee system

into the trash it goes
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>>334396571
why are you pretending this game has anything to do with any of the other doom games?
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>>334396764
Just because you're underaged doesn't mean every else is, retard.
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>>334397050
shithesda, im pretty sure is making it.

zenimax just polishes the turd and publishes it
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So /V/
if DOOM multi was that good why id made QUAKE?
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>>334393398
>tfw Bethesdafags saying Serious Sam is bad in defense of Modern Dewm
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>>334397270
Because Carmack is a huge autist and had already coded a real 3D engine and then Romero and company made a game for it.
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>>334396764
>implying its impossible for anyone on here not to have experienced the shitty days of dial-up, and those times when incoming calls would interrupt your online gaming

fuck off back to ŕeddit, nigger
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>YOU LIVED LONG ENOUGH TO SEE YOUR FAVOURITE FRANCHISE GET RAPED TWICE
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>>334386789
Kinda like Oblivion and Skyrim.
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>>334397236
No Id software and some other studio are making it not Bethesda. Why don't you google first instead of shitposting?
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>>334397720
>dewm
>favorite franchise
What's it feel like to have shit taste?
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>>334397892
>Shitting on fuckig Doom 1 and 2
GET A LOAD OF THIS NIGGA
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>>334387051

BBC is the barrel bottom of journalist.
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>>334397984
>can't aim up or down
>slow as fuck weapon cycling
>shit enemies
>no story
>poorly done narrow hall way level design
It's shit m8.
>>
>>334386789

But it wasn't.

Doom 3 has always been a decent game. Not an amazing game, but not putrid shit like Doom fanatics like to claim.
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>>334397720
at least 3 had fun single player, despite shitters complaining about switching to the flashlight.

Cyberdemon sucked ass, though.
Seriously - 3 soul cube hits, that was fucking stupid.

At least the Betruger fight in RoE wasnt as much of a cakewalk
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>>334398074
This is some underage b8.
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>>334397865
Wow it really is, I would have guessed that it was developed by someone else like Quake 4, although that game was a masterpiece compared to Doom 4.

Are there even any of the original guys still working at id?
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>>334398074
>doom
>weapon cycling

how to spot a cancerous consolefag thats killing vidya
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>>334394380
thanks doc
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>>334398193
>fuck he actually has great points about why this game series sucks as
>better call it bait.

>>334398257
How to spot someone who never played doom.
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>>334397892
Why don't you tell us?
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>>334398205
Romero and Carmack left, pretty sure all the other old members did as well.
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>>334398307
>press number on keyboard for corresponding weapon
>same as cycling

gr8 b8 m8
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>>334398307
are you actually retarded?
seriously you should actually visit a doctor
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>>334386682
Great first impression.
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>>334398469
>he actually thinks cycling through weapons and pressing a number pad is any different
You still have to cycle from one weapon, to the next one you want.

>>334398482
Nah, I just know Dewm was never good, it was always shit compared to quake, and the sad part is it couldn't even hold a candle to it's clone Unreal Tournament.
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>>334393419
I just cannot fucking believe this. Unfucking believable. I just can NOT believe this. It is not to be believed.
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>>334393419
what the fuck happened to FPSes
>>
Right, I don't get this. Everyone compares the old Doom to Halo and complains about it.

However, Halo is Xbox and most of the people complaining are pc gamers so how can you compare it to Halo if you hate consoles?

Also, Doom had the first video game space marine (first space marine goes to Warhammer) so Doom has the right to take Halo looks as Doom was the first to have the plastic armour look.
>>
>>334398605
yeah except that it isnt, you fucking idiot.

in cycling of weapons if i want to get to my chaingun while im using my pistol, id first have to have my shotgun out before i even get my chaingun out.

vs

have my pistol out, and press 4 for my chaingun, and id never have to see my shotty whilst switching.

so yeah, fuck off
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>>334398884
12-14 year olds became the main demographic, the problem is that those 12-14 year olds never grew up and are now making the games.

I wouldn't be surprised if the ones who could make really good games are the lazy sacks of shit like most of us.
>>
>>334388489
George wasn't in a batting cage in that scene. He was in Yankee stadium that was setup for batting practice.
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>>334398974
>all those spaces
>that broken grammar
>didn't even check it before he hit sumbit
Anon, breath. You are currently beyond triggered.
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>>334399016
talk for youself
I would never paint my spacesuit or gun like a gay candy on carnival and I wouldn't program a game to do that
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>>334399016
>I wouldn't be surprised if the ones who could make really good games are the lazy sacks of shit like most of us.
That hit too close anon...
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>>334393419
>that weapon skin

is this a joke? as if CSGO wasn't bad enough, they have to ruin Doom as well
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>>334397720
>doom raped by doom3 and doom4
>old simpsons raped by new simpsons
>linux raped by systemd
everything i love has been raped
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>>334399135
>lol u mad
ebin
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>>334386682
>put open beta on steam
>retards mass downvote your shit, because they don't have to pay for access
people should learn from this
>>
>>334399386
Or it could be because it's actually shit?
>>
>>334399380
What's wrong with systemd besides not following the unix philosophy?
>>
>>334398563
Lol
>>
>>334399321
The skins are broken down into several groups.
Weapons have two main sections, each can have a pattern, and 2 on each of those.

I couldn't resist doing green and purple as I don't honestly care about this game
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>>334389985
This thread proves otherwise. Kill yourself.
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>>334399382
I'm not the guy you were replying to with that comment.

I'm just worried something might be wrong, are you alright anon? You aren't thinking of suicide are you? Anon I'm worried about you. Getting this upset online, it's not good for your health.

Please rest well.
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>>334399386
If the game was any good the reviews would be positive

crazy, I know
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>>334386789
Doom 3 was more about the tech than anything.
>>
Doom was cool, but everyone sucks its dick way too hard. Reminds me of how people act about golden eye, except doom was actually fun.
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>>334389985
>new Doom
>loved by everyone
>loved by /v/

LOL
O
L
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>>334399640
If the reviewers had any credibility they'd have more playtime than the bare minimum it takes to get into the menu and wouldn't have started before the servers even came online.

Crazy, I know.
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>multiplayer only beta with only 2 maps
>22 gigs

STOP THIS SHIT
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>>334399619
>explaining differences means you're upset
wat
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Did they just remove the reviews? I can't see them anymore
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>>334399640
I haven't even bothered playing it yet, but prove to me that a game just has to be good to get good reviews. Prove to me that the internet can be that mature.
>>
>all these people commenting about how the game is slow
Doom was never fast.
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>>334394519
>>non linear design
We can't know this until we actually play the game
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>>334399640
If you had to buy access they'd be positive, because people with next to not interest in the game wouldn't leave pay to leave a rating just to bitch about how they wanted a different game.

Simple solution is to not distribute open betas via Steam.
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In the wake of DOOM, what classic-style shooters are you revisiting?

I've recently started a brand new playthrough of Painkiller: Black Edition on Trauma mode. Honestly not too hard, but also the first time a singleplayer game has challenged me at all in some time.

The wonky physics only make the game better.
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>>334399935
Anon breath, I saw the way you were typing. You hit the enter key between each sentence, this shows you were upset and not thinking fully. And instead of writing it all out properly or even proof reading you just smashed submit.

It's okay we are here for you, always here for you. in the abyss of your hellish life.
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>>334400000
It was faster than any modern day FPS.
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>>334399792
I only needed to play one round to know I didn't like it.
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>Doom is actually fucking failing
>people ITT trying to damage control and whine about it
This entire event has made my fucking week
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>>334399950
http://store.steampowered.com/app/350470/

Still there, but it's starting to get more paid shills.
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>>334398043
I'd say it's probably down to the BBC employing so many people to write about damn near everything happening in the world that they end up with a lot of people with no real news to report on, so they just write about whatever to fill the space until actual news happens.

The full article and accompanying video report about what exactly Warhammer 40k is was a bit weird though. They went to some guy's house and interviewed him and his mate about playing it.
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>>334400118
>it was faster than any modern day fps

https://youtu.be/nio1jZUaLL0?t=2m13s

That is slow as fuck compared to any shooter.
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>>334400000

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>>334400000
Checked, my friend. Also, Doom is nice.
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Really enjoyed the beta, cant wait to grab it for my ps4

meme me the FUCK up you dumb cucks
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>>334400091
Doom 2 and Quake 2.
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>>334400000
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>>334399950
You're probably looking at the actual game and not the open beta store page. It's currently 37% positive.
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>>334400000
Nice
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>>334400284
Doom 2 is bad.
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>>334400000
Witnessed for truth!
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>>334386789

Doom 3 was always bad. It had bad graphics, bad gameplay, hell it was pretty much just a boring typical shooter.
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>>334400263
how's 7th grade anon?
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>>334400000
Nice
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>>334400000
fuckin' dubsdubsquints
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>>334388412
Are you kidding? Romero is a fucking hack. Hes an average skilled level designer and nothing more
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>>334400000
Doom was never that slow either you shit getter.
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>>334400000
nice quints you fucking homo
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>>334399958
Good games have positive reviews, there are a few exceptions where steam releases an un-patched version that barely works and people rate it badly in order to persuade others not to buy it.

Even a game such as Vampire : Bloodlines has very positive reviews, despite needing user made mods to be enjoyable.

>>334400029
>If you had to buy access they'd be positive

At first, maybe. Even the latest CoD game has "mixed" reviews on Steam, and it almost never drops below the $35-40 mark.
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>>334400000
>dubs
>dubs
>fucking quints
this post is 10/10
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>>334400213
people have it mixed up with quake because they never played either
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>>334400213
>look mom! I'm cherrypicking!
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>>334400352
fucking sick just got done with my coloring books so now im going to go fuck your dad and play some more doom after that
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>>334400000
Quints confirm it. Doom was slow af
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>>334400091
Hey I played through Hell and Damnation recently, but thought the original was better

Other than that I've just been playing Doom wads
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>>334400093
yeah anon
mobile posting
and it sucks
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>Not hardcore enough
>Coming from people who don't even have quake live in their library
>meanwhile i have to wait 10 minutes on an empty server just go get rekt -1 : 22 by someone who plays quake for 15+ years and win duels only agains shitters who rush me with machinegun
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>>334400502
dont forget to change the diaper in your mouth, boy.
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>>334400497
>cherry picking the entire game
Wut?
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the game is absolutely terrible. the map design and graphics are really cool, i really liked the pentagram on the floor with candles and stuff around it.

but gameplay-wise, its a fucking casual snoozefest.
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>>334400349
Do you even know when doom 3 was released. Graphically it was probably the best game that year.
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>>334399321
Why does she always look like she has herpes?
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>>334393808
railgun =/= doom
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>>334400492
>dubs
>on /v/
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>>334387158
Console players?
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>>334400586
>quake live
>not unofficial quake3 servers
noob
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>>334400590
Im saving it for you are mom
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>>334400456
>Good games have positive reviews

Gone Home officially a better game than Doom 4, and it's not just the case that Doom 4 is being review-bombed by babies.
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>>334400349
u wot

Doom 3 still looks great.
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>>334400730
>le its not a real game unless its on pc maymay ;)
sorry its not an indie game or a shooter that gets dropped in two months you pcuck
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I don't give a shit about the multiplayer at all. I only care if the single player is decent or not
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhzXKMqZBBc

kids this was the game you were thinking of, not doom
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>>334400349
>It had bad graphics
This site is 18+
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>>334400893
Time will tell.

I expect plenty of waypoints and linear arena-to-arena levels.

At least the plot has been confirmed to be hilarious.
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>>334400561
Hell and Damnation is a cancer on Painkiller's name. I hate to say that, too. Its got co-op, and thats the good part. The graphics and shit are upgraded and thats fine and dandy, but its only got like a handful of the original levels, and a shitload of DLC that is fairly expensive.

I dunno, I mean the gameplay is fully intact and the new weapon is kind of fun, but outside of the co-op it doesn't really improve upon the base game. Don't know about the MP though. Back when I bought PK originally, I didn't have internet on my computer, and what we did have was Dial Up.
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>>334400819
Only because Gone Homo got positive review bombed by SJW babies.
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>>334400936
shh...
don't tell them
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>>334400936
That gameplay just looks autistic
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>>334392397
That's not even the start of the problems with Duke Nukem Forever, but everything else is spot on.
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>>334400000
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>>334400000
Also for a free beta it's fun but I would not buy this game

Pros:
>Characters look cool
>Power ups

Cons:
>No sprint
>Assualt rifle shoots blue balls
>Map is too cluttered (Might not be case for all maps)
>Don't spawn anywhere near my team (Could be a beta problem)
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>none of the cherrypicked Doom videos posted use sprint
>Doom is totally slow, I swear!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB4mO9CJ7Ek
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>>334388094
Probably none, they ran out of budget after the epic kill moves.
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>>334401013
Actually the Hell and Damnation messes with some of the original levels by changing the weapons, enemies and even the music, so it feels like a cheap knockoff with a shiny coat of paint. It's still more fun most modern slow military FPS games, but the original Painkiller is better and cheaper

Oh and the story sucks harder than the original, if you can believe that
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>>334400936
can I say he owns or is it too old?
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>>334392397
There's nothing wrong with resurrecting classic franchises as long as you don't dumb them down and turn them to COD/Halo
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>>334401265
>>Characters look cool
They look like gay as fuck titanfall character or some shit
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>>334388541
>I'm actually 35 alright
Whippersnapper.

>>334389386
>why did they make it so fucking slow
Consoles, son.
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>>334400819
>first tag is "walking simulator"
>3 of the top rated reviews are negative

My point still stands, if a game is good people will rate it appropriately, barring technical issues and shoddy ports (DMC3 for example).
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>>334401284
>he actually thinks this is fast
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>>334401468
Still faster than the new Doom.
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>>334397720
>tfw doom fan
>tfw crash bandicoot fan
>tfw spyro fan
>tfw sonic fan
>tfw silent Hill fan
>tfw resident evil fan
>tfw kof fan
>tfw virtua fighter fan
>tfw jet set radio fan
>tfw metroid fan
>tfw dmc fan
>tfw kotor fan
>tfw F.E.A.R. fan
>tfw Dino crisis fan
>tfw Wario land fan
You don't even understand, this is just a few, everything I love dies
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>>334401553
Or possibly it's that you were shit at the new doom.
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>>334386789
Doom 3 BFG Edition kinda made me not wanting to pay for games anymore...
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>>334401328
Oh christ the story can get WORSE??

And thats sad. I know it was made by the same chucklefucks behind Painkiller: Reskin 2 With Different Weapons That Are Just The Normal Weapons Except Look Different Now so I had low expectations.

Cannot believe I ever bought Painkiller Overdose. At least I stayed away from Redemption/Resurrection/Resurgence/Insurgent/Divergent
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>>334401584
>all of these shit franchises
>all of these hipster tier games
>all of this garbage
You are the reason the industry is in EDGE mode.
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>>334401284
>DooM is very fast if you ignore everything and rush straight for the exit!

Notice how even that guy slowed down massively whenever he got into a fight he couldn't sprint through without getting shit to pieces.
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If Doom sucks so much, then get Rank 1 on the beta servers.

Until you do this, shut your fucking mouth. You are not qualified to comment on the game unless you are the best ever.
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>>334401603
>it sux becus your bad
Your game is a fucking blunder kid, accept it
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>>334400213
>>334400607
HMP isn't real Doom.
Only UV/UV+fast/Nightmare are acceptable, and they play substantially differently than lower difficulty levels.

Doom gameplay is at its best when the levels are choked with enemies and projectiles and the player has to weave between everything.

I didn't see the player in the video run whatsoever in the entire first two levels that I watched.
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>>334401676
>shitting on Wario Land

You don't want me to show you who the boss of this gym is, do you?
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>>334401676
>calls him edgy
>uses hipster uniroinally
Pssh,nothing personal
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>>334401584
>dino crisis
>tfw loved the first, never played the sequels
>tfw learning of that "dinosaurs in space" sequel

man, just damn
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>>334401687
>DooM
why do people with retarded opinions always write like this
why are you such a huge faggot?
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>>334401806
>WAAAAH WAAAAH LIKE MY GAME
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>>334401726
>you were never a part of a team that won the Dota internation, therefore you can't judge the game
>you never competed in an MLG Halo tournament? opinion invalid

you're logic is beyond retarded
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>>334401841
Play the second it's really good too, just different. Also the light gun game is pretty fun.
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>>334401626
Basically it takes place after the events of the original (even though you still fight like 3 of the original bosses) and the final boss is Death, which sounds cool but is incredibly fucking lame. You only have the new weapon to fight him and he takes way too long to kill.

And it's not even the same cool frozen-time hell final level, which looked awesome, it's just some shitty ruined city this time around.

Jesus Christ all they had to do was take Painkiller and give it a new coat of paint, but they can't even do that right.

Also the Heaven Above DLC is bad, don't get it
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>>334401726
>You are not qualified to comment on the game unless you are the best ever.
Poe's Law
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>>334401726
le upboat xD
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>multiplayer shit
>singlerplayer good

you don't believe this meme do you ?
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>>334386789
Doom 3 is a bad doom game too, but at least it's not fundamentally horrible
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>>334401953
Only the best players should judge a game. Bad players shouldn't comment on a game unless the pros agree with him. My logic is not only sound, but it's unassailable.
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>>334402041
Worked for the original Doom.
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>>334400000
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>>334402041
I expect the multiplayer to be shit and the SP to be average. Maybe better than Doom 3. Maybe.
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>>334401676
Neo /v/ everybody
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>>334401284
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DlmS6qMKcsz0&start1=4&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZhzXKMqZBBc&start2=10&authorName=autism
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>>334386682
Those enemy screenshots looks like a badly copy paste of models from Warframe & Planetside 2.
I cringe harder than I should have...
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It seems alright and if they're actually willing to modify the game, it could be made good before release
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>>334402120
>Bad players shouldn't comment on a game unless the pros agree with him

"Bad players" as you so call them make up for 99% of the playerbase, if they think the game is shit, it doesn't matter what the pros think, because without the casual audience there is no pro scene.

Nobody is going to play Doom 4 MP for the next two decades, enjoy your "pro" circle-jerk.
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>>334400000
Damn.
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>>334402404
These suggestions aren't new. We've been saying them since the closed alpha.

Nothing meaningful has changed. They actually made some things worse.
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>>334402404
>if they're actually willing to modify the game

They aren't.
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>>334401918
Don't you have some f2p games to play and give negative reviews to after sinking 60 days into them?
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>>334401984
Holy fuck. How can they fuck that up? It is literally that simple. Same fucking game, better graphics.

I'm so pissed that Painkiller will never get the sequel it deserves.

Lord knows if they do make one, it'll have weapon camos, memecheivements, and ebin bloody screen ala DOOM.
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>>334402120
Maybe they are bad because after 1 hour in the game they realized it is bad.
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>>334394962
>hack module
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>>334402647
>1400 hours
>negative
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>>334401806
>>334401918
>>334402647
>>334402753
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>>334402679
At least there's Serious Sam 4 on the horizon.

God who would have guessed that a bunch of croatians would be the only people not to completely fuck up an old franchise
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>>334402825
Thanks Captcha.
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>>334394962
>>334399525
It's even worse than I expected, Halo 5 doesn't look this retarded, and that's saying a lot.
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>>334402647
Look at this fag mad that nobody likes his casual abortion
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>>334402839
I'll take the first half of SS3 for 500.

Honorable mention to SS2.
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>>334402647
God damn. And I thought I was a tragic, no-life piece of shit.
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>>334401806
>>334402923
>trying to get your bethesda fanboy army to shit on certain people just because they hate neo-doom
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>>334402489
>>334402542
I didn't play the alpha, so I didn't know. I hope they change their minds. It's not good as is, but not terrible either.

I don't know why we're talking in spoilers still
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>>334402923
at least TF2 had some redeeming qualities when it first came out, D4 is shit right out the gate
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>>334403160
>TF2
>redeeming ever
If you weren't playing DoD you were doing it wrong.
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>>334401868
When he's not sprinting past everything he genuinely slows down to Halo speeds. It's right there in the video, didn't you watch it?

>ad hominem

Oh, right. Of course you didn't.
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i like it
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>>334402471
That is the job of the marketing team you sucker the noobs into thinking they could be pro and then there should be a high enough skill cap to make the pros kill them. So you are right 99% of Doom 4 Beta players will not be able to hit one-frame links but once ID has their money no one should care. Let the pros talk because they are the gamers that matter.

>>334402702
Realistically you need at least 100 hours in order to say whether a game is good or not. Donkey Kong is a good example because the competition is so intense, if you can't get to the kill screen then you need to shut up.
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>>334403097
That's my opinion as well. With some adjustments you could have a pretty good game here. As it stands it's kinda rough.
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>>334402943
Well okay that was a dumb decision but at it's core it's still Serious Sam. Sprinting, Executions are optional and reloading can be fixed with mods.

Seriously name me one other FPS reboot/continuation that's as faithful as Serious Sam 3
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>>334403271
>literally halo

jesus it's a direct copy
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>>334403271
shit taste
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>>334403043
Just exposing you to your kin. I know it's ugly, but you have to look otherwise you'll never realize the error of your ways.

Nah I'm just shitposting.
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>>334403271
>purple shotgun
you, I like you.
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>>334403407
Nah, if it was literally Halo those shotgun blasts would have actually fucking killed those guys.
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>>334403448
>slow arena shooter
>like most games today it's slow
>playing 2.5GCD
just...
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>>334403371
Well, SS3 was just a sequel. There's tons of sequels that live up to their predecessors.

In this case you've got a reboot that's actually the second time the series has been rebooted.
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>>334403271
Man those glory kills look like dogshit
>>
To the people defending this travesty: How do I break in to the world of paid shilling? I'll follow your lead and tell the world shit tastes like chocolate if the pay's good enough.

Hit me up.
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>>334403448
>>334402923
>>334402647
>>334401806
After the weight of people not liking his shitty console shooter hit him, the shill is no longer able to form an argument about why its good. Instead, he goes into an ad hominem mode, where he just insults people who don't like it, hoping it will sell the game
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>>334403762
I used to like this game too, now I'm a #CruzMissle.
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>>334403294
>once ID has their money no one should care

are you seriously this big of a fanboy? jesus

>Let the pros talk because they are the gamers that matter.

there won't be any pros, because the casual audience is going to abandon the game the minute the next big AAA release rolls around. The FPS genre is already saturated with games far superior to D4, no amount of marketing is going to save it.

>Realistically you need at least 100 hours in order to say whether a game is good or not

no, you don't. If you can't judge a game after spending a couple of hours with it, you're beyond redemption

you just come of as a massive fanboy that can't form his own opinion without consulting with the "pro" scene first, which are people being paid for by the companies to play their games, nobody is going to shit on their livelihood
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>>334403271
>kill animations
>in a multiplayer shooter
fucking why?
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>>334398205
>Are there even any of the original guys still working at id?
Doom I was more than 20 years ago, mate. It was a handful of people doing a game. Basically 5 kids in a basement. Even if those people were still there, their creative input would be completely diluted considering you need now much, much more people to do a AAA game.
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>>334403271
Floaty CoD with Warframe player models.
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>>334403630
Well yeah, but it's a proper sequel.

I mean it could have been Quake 4.
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>>334403898
I have no problem with the kill animations other than the fact that they force you to do the kill animation. You can't just melee someone normally to finish them off. It just happens.
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I can't even make fun of the terrible armor in the game without it fucking up.

Seriously though why does the screenshot look like this?
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>>334403271
>mfw
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>>334404098
Fair enough. But I don't think D44M will match Quake 4 in terms of shittiness.

Q4 actually puts me to sleep.
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>>334404113
>I have no problem with the kill animations other than the fact that they force you to do the kill animation
Yes anon, thats why its a bad game
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>>334403271
thanks anon, just saved me 60 bucks
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will there be coop survival?
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>>334403818
You're right, anon. These are quality reviews from quality reviewers. Buy this game immediately.
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>>334404146
ǝɯ oʇ ǝuıɟ sʞooן ƃuıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ 'uouɐ puɐʇsɹǝpun ʇ,uop ı
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>>334389220
it has definitely gone to the fucking shitter.
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>>334397754
Careful, Oblivion was a lot of /v/'s first Elder Scrolls game they really got into.
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>>334400000
Repeating Numerals of Truth.
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More in-depth reviews from /v/.
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What is wrong with them? Literally all they had to do was spend an hour or two watching Quake Live videos on Youtube, then copy it more or less entirely verbatim with a shiny coat of paint and all the Doom shit thrown in.

How can a studio fuck up so badly?
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>>334388412
>Daikatana
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>>334398074
>poorly done narrow hall way level design
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>>334404693
they copied brink instead
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>>334403271
And my mind is made up. At least UT4 should be ok.
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>>334404259
Well at the very least I hope D44M will be okay. Like if I pick it up, beat it in a day or two and go "Yeah that was fun I guess"
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>>334401806
>>334402647
>>334402923
>>334403448
>>334404424
>>334404690
Calm down Todd, the absolute madman!
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>>334404713
That's just why you don't let Romero run the business.
>hire a bunch of shitters from the internet
>change engines mid-way
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>>334404690
you're beyond butthurt

apply some ointment
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>>334388412
Carmack is the one that came up with the concept for Doom.

In fairness, Wolf 3D was Romero's idea (remaking Wolf in 3D). Without Wolf, there would be no Doom.
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>>334393398
SS3 PVP sucked and that's like main attraction in an arena shooter, here's hoping SS4 will fix this
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>>334386682
i would like to laugh at this playing tonight, but my toaster could get fried

anyone could point me out about a toaster report on this?
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>>334404946
Take a fucking guess.

It looks like shit and chugs on monster systems, the new standard for AAA PC games.
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>>334388489
My first experience with Doom was playing on a PC running Windows 3.1 in 1993.

The new Doom is worse than 3 which was and still is garbage. Don't waste your time on either.
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>>334403271
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>people complaining about the game feeling slow
>turn fov up to 110
feels pretty good actually.
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>>334399906
It was only 10 gb, you mong. But yeah, still way too much for two tiny maps.
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>>334405069
>PC game
wrong, its console garbage with a PC version on the side
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>>334405069
ok then i will just shitpost here for a while
the steam forums are getting burned down as we speak
the game is already at a 36%
this gon be good guys

WHO PREORDERED?!!
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>>334389592
Even CoD is faster now, there's literally no excuse
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>>334405384
>preordering
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>>334404476
Go to bed, Australia
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>>334405069
Will UT4 be ok? Please let it be ok?
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Its not shit but not good either, the customizing stuffis a waste of time, I hope it gets a gamemode without the monster and spawn abilities shit
The game runs pretty good for me, but it fucks up the resolution everytime I start the game
It feel like its gonna end up as being a pretty meh game, so nothing that wasn't known
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>>334405384
>Preorder

The gamestop line will be full of 12 year olds asking their mother to buy this game
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>>334404321
Bitch about Halo all you want, you have to hold down the melee button and attack from the rear for that shit.

Assassinations are usually kick-em-while-they're-down things and you're vulnerable as fuck doing them. Plus funny shit can happen. Had a friend assassinate someone who got stuck in the head. The animation had him stab the grenade, which went off as it should've. Still gave him credit for the kill even though he died in it.
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>>334405671
UT4 looks and runs great despite being in alpha stage

should be okay hopefully
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>>334405735
Easy there, Kid, Don't spill your juice-box over this.
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>>334405384
It runs ok on my R9 285. By "ok" I mean it's vaguely playable, hard to tell of the lag is due to performance or connection issues, considering it's P2P I lean towards connection.
The game looks like ass and there are very few settings. I don't think I even saw high/med/low texture settings.

>>334405510
BLOPS3 is literally better, and that game is a hot mess on PC.
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ok so doom was good back then
so now this new doom is good
right?

this is how remakes work and you know nothing
by being a doom game, you have a guarantee of quaility and equal if not better potential
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>>334405745
So why don't we see threads about it? Why is doom getting all this attention?
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>>334405909
good games are spared, you only see classic praise and bad games in /v/
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>>334405889
thanks for the info

i love how many games these days look like crap and full of glitches, but chromatically aberrated for good mesure

like your pic
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>>334405909
cause its motherfuckin doom, nigger
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>>334405824
There are people in this thread who've played Halo and enjoyed it, at least until 4+, Anon. Try not to get triggered. I'm just trying to say that this shit is stuff even Halo wouldn't do, as much as you like to bitch about it. Let that sink in: Bungie's Halo was more of an arena shooter than this.
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>>334405909
Because it's in pre-alpha and it has zero marketing.
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>>334405671
arena fps is ded m8
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>>334406057
I loved Halo until 4, and this feels a lot like 4 and 5.
They're using the same plastic looking shiny texturing to ease off on the console GPU that 343i Halo did on Xbox. I can't be the only one who noticed that.
The reason all that glossy plastic shit is there is because it's easier for the consoles to render, that's why everyone looks like a fucking low-rez action figure.

Halo is all about controlling the map and dueling, this game has neither. Regenerating health would actually HELP this game, incredibly, because it's trying to be Halo but with no ability to recover from the 1v1 encounters that made Halo fun.

Encounters in Doom 4 are a fucking mess, you can't tell what's going on half the time.
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>>334405909
Because it's not being marketed now
And it's also being paraded as being open source, so if it's bad, it's the fan's fault
A perfect design scheme

Looks fun though
This doesn't
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>>334406410
>all that shit popping up on the screen whenever you kill someone
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>Max FoV
Well it feels faster at least.
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>>334406410
I remember when those HUD images were jokes
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>>334406846
>being this buttblasted
stay mad
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>>334406410
headturn speed = turtle-tier
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>>334406846
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>>334406846
TF2 is a good multiplayer game though
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>>334406927
Ignore him, he pre-ordered and is now emotionally invested.
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>>334396361
blame bethesda's shitty marketing department
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