Final Fantasy XV Demo
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>>332613801
Agreed. Just give me a menu-based combat system and we are good. Its hilarious 7-Remake will have a better combat system than this because of this huge fuck up.
>>332613750
Just checked, no artbook for Deluxe unfortunately
>>332613715
>A party made of only guys for all the game?
Who would play this but fujoshis and fags?
Did they remove the skills that Duscae had or something?
I wasn't really impressed for 90% of the demo.
The last part where you transform into Adult Noctis and fight the big behemoth had potential though. The music was pumping and actually got me to sit up.
But I'm still mixed on this real-time shit. It works in Arkham since Batman literally never gets touched, but just feels word in RPGs where taking damage is required.
Combat is still shit. Oh well.
>>332613715
From seeing a live stream, I can bet people are gonna criticise the combat. It just seems weird. Holding down the circle button to attack AND holding down square for dodge is dare I say it, braindead. And magic targetting is slowing the combat even further. At least, in KH combat feels a lot more responsive. Driving mechanic seems stiff (the cars gonna just stick to the lane you're driving), but at least there's auto-drive. And I'm pretty sure the flying car is gonna be like, point to one spot and fly. But only at drive-able areas.
Is this what final fantasy has become? Is this what the VII remake will be like?
FUCKING DROPPED
>This combat
God damn it Square, you fucked it up.
>>332614220
People who aren't completely sexually insecure?
>>332614263
Is the combat mechanic final? Are they gonna rework it a bit. Fuck, somebody write a comment for the demo to SE, please. The combat sucked balls.
Ten years
Ten years for this. This god awful combat, that golem fight was truly bad. I want to die right now. I need to be placed on suicide watch because this is legitimately depressing me, life has no fucking meaning
>>332614263
>>332614296
>>332614294
Combat is definitely worse than ED, and will never be as good/fast paced as KH
They fucked up.
I can't believe they fucked up this bad. All they had to do was keep what they had with ED, and add magic. Something not fucking dumb like grenades and aiming them
>>332614402
I keep trying to roll through attacks like it's Dark Souls.
What the fuck happened to team tokyo, they were the kings of ARPG combat
This shit is not smooth at all
>aiming for magic
>holding a button to dodge
Two semi-hidden weapons above the plaza main entrance.
Shield and a giant throwing star.
Gotta warp up to them.
I wish they'd make another feedback poll for this demo like they did with Duscae
It's funny how they need help with this game from fans when they did the perfect arpg combat years ago on the PS2
Just do FFX combat
Fuckimg square. Been hype 10 years and now it's FUCKED
>>332614220
>I cant be a girl?
>gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
>>332614530
I'd like to think that the combat will improve as it goes. Think of it like FF7 how you start up with just 'attack' and 'item' and it eventually fleshes out.
>>332613715
Combat was great, short demo though
Everything is ruined.
Can you not parry as small Noctis?
>>332614613
Anybody find any other hidden stuff? How to unlock certain plates?
Everything is fucking destroyed. Square Enix ruined my fucking life. I'm going to end my life thanks to this piece of shit
>>332614770
You have to colleckt a certain amount of gems to unlock plates, all the silver ones are just cars though
>>332613715
Why dont they just do dash/roll with invul frames
>>332614623
This. Just fucking this. Worse, there's no technique at all. They've switched it with weapon status. Fuck it. Just fuck it.
They should have dropped the Attack/Defend stance stuff the moment they thought of it. I just want Noctis to roll when I press roll, and be able to do combos by pressing circle and not have it cancel the combo almost as soon as I let go of circle.
The Kingdom Hearts games played fine, or at least some of them did. Just copy those a bit
>>332614689
It's probably this. Final combat might also be something between both demos
KH2 FM is the greatest arpg combat system ever yet FFXV has the worst. Videogames are fucking dead
>>332614946
You can just press to dodge, and some attacks can't be auto-dodged, and press to attack and continuously pressing does the combo. This worked the exact same way with ED
The faults go to removing Weapon Skills seemingly, giving you less options in a fight and this being the WORST magic system in a S-E game yet. Out of EVERY FUCKING GAME THEY HAVE EVER DONE. Also Arbiter mode or whatever seems way worse now. Also trying to jump mid combo is super shit. Noctis seems less floaty than before meaning air combos are way fucking more annoying to do. You basically need to warp above his head and then start.
Thank fucking god KH3 is coming out, and 7-Remake is using a menu based system
Duscae combat looked pretty bad already and now you guys are saying it's worse?
>>332615193
Duscae fag here. I really likwd the combat in Duscae. This honestly is shit. Doesnt flow as well, nor does it have as many options.
>get super hyped for the game
>play the demo
expectations brought back down to reality. looks like shit but that's to be expected being a console game, but god damn the frame rate is still as bad as it was during the first demo. the combat is way too fucking braindead with the regenerating hp and mp, the hold square to defend, the fact that you seemingly can't even die, and it just feels really clunky and clumsy. Kingdom Hearts manages to have better combat.
>>332615094
>yet FFXV has the worst.
Wrong on every level
This is depressing
>>332614220
Have you never had the sense of brotherhood you fucking basement neckbeard?
>>332614525
If you just hit the attack button, with a target in lock-on, you don't have to aim the magic
It feels like they don't know where they want to go with the combat, they changed it so many times and it's still not perfect
It's not a shame to copy old games of your own company square
Anyone figured out what the locked pads in the house level are?
is the demo just you playing as young Noctis? If so, that would explain a lot. The demo is probably just the prologue to the game.
>>332615596
All of them are cars
That was a fun hour
Would play again/10
>>332615624
it's explicitly a dream with no bearing on the story
Well, I don't exactly know what to feel...
The demo is shit. It looks great, but is shit.
I really, really liked Episode Duscae, but they've seemed to change all that i liked about the combat in that version for this version. If the full game is going to be less Duscae and more this, I'm scared
Combat is fucking HORRIBLE
>>332615624
they stated that the demo is completely separate from the main game, this content doesn't show up anywhere but the demo
It's not story heavy at all, but it is the only way to get your own named carbuncle
The combat is a massive step up from the demo, everything flows better and it's faster and more concise.
>>332613715
The low fps is really holding this game back desu. Which is crazy considering how this demo is mostly linear. Can't imagine how laggy this game gonna be out in open world.
>>332615692
Im in the same boat. Was super hyped at the trailers today, played the demo. Absolutely crushed.
I was one of those people who put like 10 hours into ED.
God, this demo was shit. Terrible framerate, brainless easy combat and was a waste of fucking time
>Beat that giant knight pretty easy first time
>Second time absolutely kicked my ass
Fuck
The demo is pretty good, there is more to the combat than any other FF has
>>332615928
hahahaha
This game still feels more like a tech demo than anything else
>>332615691
>>332615779
then how the fuck is it a demo? It sounds more like an advertisement to Episode Duscae's demo.
>>332615978
Keep memeing
Cheesy strategy to the Iron Giant
https://a.pomf.cat/wcwneq.webm
>>332615928
I can say this is partly true. But the button hold. Urgh. Is just fucking stupid for an ARPG.
Just started doenloading platinum demo.
Is there no way to get the normal demo?
Every other thread is just shit flinging, so I'll just ask here. Have they officially released the Florence + The Machine - Stand By Me cover?
>found plate hidden in pile of books
>have really no interest in grinding yellow orbs to unlock
cool SE
i'll just wait for somebody with autism to do it and put it on youtube i guess
>>332616063
pretty sure that's intended. or you can just run onto all the question mark pads and spam fire on him until he dies.
>>332616069
It's tap for dodge roll, hoding is like a stance, or like holding up a shield in Zelda
in fact you have shields in this game too
>>332614263
I think the point of the demo was more to show off the platforming and the engine with weather effects and all.
At least I assume, why else would it be about the content it is?
God, the combat is awful
>warp to giant tower
>warp attack down to giant
Repeat because it fucking stunlocks him
Fucking FFXV combat is like going to a club, you are all surrounded by homosexual guys moving all the time, yelling and shit, while flashy light effects are all over the screen.
It's absolutely gay and retarded. I want more passive combat where you can fucking see the enemy you are fighting and your allies are not all the time doing shit and screaming NOCTIS PLS PRESS X TO FUCK MY ASSHOLE, YEAH NOTCIS SAMA FUCK MY ASS
The dodging still feels like garbage i want attack cancel dodges like in KH, not dumb hold button dodges and rolls taht won't work 99% of the time especially since invincible frames are fucked up because of the framerate
>>332616195
what platforming
>>332616084
normal demo was a code from buying Type-0
I'm really not feeling this combat. Noctis feels sluggish and slow to respond. It's like I have to take damage unless Im okay with only getting one hit in every 20 seconds.
>>332615928
Where did you find all the hidden extra combat? I think a lot of it must have been missing from mine.
>>332616281
Well damn and here I hoped they would have released it almost a year later, so others could enjoy it.
>that combat
>hold square
>hold circle
whoa
>>332616257
The hopping about you have to do on the books and toys, and also to get those gems on the purse.
>I can't be a girl
>I can't be a person of color
CURRENT YEAR GUYS
>Weapon skills gone
Is this true?
well now i'm officially more hyped for kingdom hearts 3 than this shitshow.
Quick, say something nice about FFXV, you negative fucks.
What's the Japanese book Noctis dad has like 5 massive volumes of?
I make out 和議の沈黙 but I'm not sure if that is right
>10 years later
>still no dev that can match tales in ARPG combat
rofl
>>332616113
What are these plates?
That fucking knockback and no quick get up, what the fuck were they thinking
>>332616418
She is cuter than Lightning
>demo advertised as something for fans and newcomers alike
>surprised the combat is fairly simple
Are people retarded or what?
>>332616418
the music is good and its kind of pretty when you throw the rain and meteor shower grenades.
>>332616418
I liked the setting of the house's room where you were small. I've always loved "the world is big and you're small" settings.
>>332616418
Music is pretty gud
>>332616412
The 2 weapons in the demo don't have skills, and the equipment menu doesn't list a skill. The Broadsword actually mana leechs, so maybe they went with passives instead of active skills. The removal of them makes the combat really boring, there isn't alot of options for the player to do.
>>332616476
You mean KH2FM?
>>332616519
>/v/
>not in charge of being fucking retarded and overreactionary
>>332616418
It looks pretty.
And the plot doesn't seem too JRPG incomprehensible yet.
>>332616519
It's not simple, it's stupidly streamlined to the point were it's not functioning sometimes
>>332616418
I liked how it single handedly raised the suicide rate in NA. It was all I and many others had to look forward to. Like the second cumming of Jesus. Now it's fucked. FUCK YOU FUCKING SQUARE BITCH IDIOTS
>>332616063
>https://a.pomf.cat/wcwneq.webm
that is some pretty slick gameplay, wish i knew how to do half of that shit
all i did was unsuccessfully roll and spammed fire once i found out the platinum plates give them
I WAITED 10 YEARS JUST TO HOLD THE CIRCLE BUTTON!?
>99 posts
>46 unique posters
Jesus FUCKING Christ, you guys. Give it a rest
>>332616592
Man that's fucking gay I seriously hope the skills aren't gone
>>332616750
I just use fire once and went to town on him with the big sword.
>>332616519
the kingdom hearts games are aimed at literal children and still manage to have better controlling, deeper combat than this game.
>>332616063
>https://a.pomf.cat/wcwneq.webm
this combat looks alright. what's everybody sperging about?
>PARRIES ARE RANDOM
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>PARRIES ARE RANDOM
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>PARRIES ARE RANDOM
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>PARRIES ARE RANDOM
PARRIES ARE RANDOM
>PARRIES ARE RANDOM
PARRIES ARE RANDOM
>PARRIES ARE RANDOM
PARRIES ARE RANDOM
>PARRIES ARE RANDOM
PARRIES ARE RANDOM
>>332616831
It's called a discussion
>>332616831
THEY FUCKED IT UP
>>332613715
the demo reminded me of sonic 06
not good
>>332616831
i posted 45 times
wew lads
>parries are fucked because of framerate
>roll is useless because of no inframes
>dodge does not cancel attack animations
What the fuck
>try and play like an action game by timing my dodges and using air combos
>get BTFO by Vin Diesel
>hold square and then hold circle
>win easily
Please tell me this isn't how the final game will play out.
>>332616894
>half the posts aren't even responding to each other
>the use the exact same copypaste phrasing
Yeah, """discussion"""
Holy shit, while the effects looked a little impressive the aiming is fucking horrible.
>a year later, still 15 FPS
>controlling noctis still unresponsive and awkward
>combat is somehow even worse
at least carbuncle is cute
>>332616694
>>332616884
>demo where you pretty much have none of the abilities and weapons you're going to get
>hurr it's too simple!
>>332616195
>show off platforming
The entire world of FF15 is a contradiction.
Physics exist for certain objects, but not for climbing ledges. You literally have to bunny hop everywhere.
Honestly, it feels like Lightning Returns with rolls. I was just generally not impressed.
Now you fags see FF13 wasnt so bad, it atleast had a real combat system
>>332616983
Does the roll really not have iframes?
>>332617025
You can just lock onto enemies and tap circle and it'll auto-aim, at least.
>>332617089
you just hold down a button
>>332613715
these have for to be some of the worst jumping physics in any game ever
>>332617035
>at least carbuncle is cute
This.
>wow looks at all this pretty places and towns
>gameplay is 15fps mashing the same button over and over
>>332617134
I tried to roll as often as i can into attacks and nothing works, it's pretty much just a tool to get away from your enemy without wasting MP for the warp
>>332617136
You don't have to hold it.
We need to let Square know about the combat. They've been listening to fans and have changed the combat before, they might do it again if we make ourselves heard. The question is, how do we do it?
>>332617190
>mashing the same button
You're giving the game too much credit.
>>332617251
More importantly though, she got a name?
It looked nice.
It sounded nice.
Everything else was trash. Absolute trash.
>>332613715
>no PC version
see you guys in a year or two, maybe...
Why does Noctis take huge falling damage?
Everything in this game contradicts itself
>>332617120
Kill yourself
13 will always be shit
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The dissonance between all this vitriol and my personal experience is fucking astonishing.
Also, the Post:Poster ratio is getting bigger
>>332617294
I'm fucking serious. I donnt want 10 yesrs of development to go into the trash.
>he didn't name his character Never EVER
>>332616884
No that doesn't
the shoes make farting noises
>>332617340
>Wanting an uncompressed probably 150gb game from SE on PC
I understand your want for it, but damn the file sizes ain't worth it sweetheart.
>>332617371
is it even possible to die in this fucking game
>>332617414
And so am I, what's her name?It's not going in the trash just because the combat is bad. It takes a lot more than that to kill a FF, otherwise IX would be ranked the worst with that framerate and loading issues
The shuriken and shield are cool, but are pretty useless
>>332617414
You're an idiot
Literally blunder of the century lmao
>>332617251
I feel it's too late in development to make any more big changes. We'll just have to wait for the final product. But I feel the end product will be fun. No high end studio would spend so long making boring shitty unresponsive combat.Except CDPR
>Have amazing fireworks magic with cool effects
>Trade it in for shitty generic fire at boss fight
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
Ugh.
>>332617495
Not in the demo.
We have quite a lot of good looking mid age men but we're stuck with that faggot Noctis
>>332614220
I mean Gears of War was pretty good.
>>332617519
When will you PCucks learn
>Episode Duscue had better combat layout and actual swords skills
Everything else is an improvement those who disagree are wrong
God this is awful when compared to another game just released (Star Ocean 5)
>>332617495
nope not in the demo
considering you get auto healed after one or two knockouts
>>332617519
looks shopped
>>332617547
I'm pretty sure at this point the Episode Duscae demon is a showcase of the final combat while this is more of a tech demo like others have been saying.
I WANT TO USE THE GYRO TO AIM MAGIC
C'MON TABATA
FORWARD THINKING
>>332613715
>combat still sucks ass
it might even have gotten worse since Duscae
>>332617653
go look for yourself, its real
>>332617553
Firaga will look cool
>use Raindrops
>fucking weird looks hail of particles comes down
I thought it would summon a rain cloud or some shit
>>332613715
I liked Duscae better.
>>332617698
>it might even have gotten worse since Duscae
No it fucking hasn't, you retards
>>332617120
15 having not so great combat doesn't make 13 any less shit
Fuck you
Ah okay.
Somehow I unlocked the meteorain plate.
why is anyone surprised this sucks? final fantasy for the last 15 years has sucked dick and has, at best, hit levels of mediocre.
I really get hit every second, i had no problems with Duscae, but this just feels wrong
The roll is useless, the dodge is useless, parry only works 50% of the time, the shield and shuriken are useless, magic has uses.
It's sad
>>332617584
all these husbandos over the age of 20, muh dick
but yeah shame we only have the pretty boy to play as. the lewd fanart will comfort me
>>332617820
>the last good final fantasy was in 2006
>15 years
I don't think Platinum's layout is here to stay.
At least I hope not.
>>332617813
>the meteorain plate.
Wew, I thought I was the only one who noticed the shitty framerate. I don't remember anyone complaining about it on the last demo.
This shit was horrible, even though the music was 10/10.and watching leviathan was a nice surprise too
>>332616418
I like exploring the city and the world. The music. Summons are cools as fuck. Magic is dope as hell. (But the targeting slows down the combat). Looking forward to the weather condition and how it affects combat. But it here are my complaints. The combat just doesn't work for an ARPG. If they're going with a true ARPG feel, make it faster, remove the hold attack button shit. Even flashier. That is what newcomers and casuals (the crowd that they are trying to pull) are looking for. Driving and flying will be restricted as fuck (this is just a smart guess from what I perceive from trailers and from what Tabata said about driving). For me, I have no problem with the game, but you're blind if you can't see the negatives. I can already smell the negative comments coming from miles. SE fucked up big time. If they're trying to pull in new crowds (the casuals) they’re going to have a hard time. And the fanbase is already split regarding this. I just hope that XV doesn't sunk.
>>332616089
Not that I've seen but I'm interested too.
WORST PLATINUM GAME EVER.
>>332617898
Collect enough gems and they unlock in the aprt where you control small noctis in the town
>>332617745
Duscae at least had abilities, now it's just hold two buttons to win
>>332617898
in the dining room/house
in the corner with the chair
there's a plate hidden under two blocks on top of a pile of books
welp now I don't feel so bad about the no PC release
What the point of amiger if you're not FUCKIN invincible anymore?
>>332617929
SE has always been for the casual crowd, it's nothing new. Why do people act like they are just now doing this?
So, best part of the demo was clearly the BEEP BEEP I'M A FUCKING CAR, GET OUT OF THE WAY WOODEN BLOCKS
Am I right, or am I right?
>>332617984
Skills were fucking useless 70% of the time. It's literally the same shit as Duscae, which convinces me none of you fags actually played it.
>>332618031
You're right
I bet you could climb on top of the bookfort with the fennec if you were lucky with the physics system.
Is there any way they can go back to turn based combat? They're best at that.
>>332617951
>>332617987
What is it?
>>332618142
orange balls that fall from the sky
Is there an edit of Noctis with the JUST hair?
I feel it is appropriate after playing this demo
>>332618056
and 30% worked and added variety
>>332618140
>>332618187
Needs to be combined with this one
>>332617605
Gears of War is considered good these days?
Some stuff about the game was pretty cool but it had really bad performance and really jaggy graphics on top of the controls being weirdly sluggish. If they could fix that bullshit then I'd be really interested in the game.
>>332618259
Back then it was.When it didn't have any dumb grils
>>332614220
That's like saying you'll buy a game because it has tits. You do buy a game for it BEING a game right?
>>332618031
That sounds when knocking them over was amazing.
Too bad everything else was shit.
I like the gameplay so far, I assume in the full game well get stats on the weapons that we can use?
Game does run like shit on PS4 though,Tons of DoF and motion blur effects to cover up some sort of dynamic resolution system they have in place. Frame rate rill gets real "cinematic" in some spots. Some really low res stuff that stick out like a sore thumb
>tfw laughing at PCucks that this would never go to PC
>play the demo, looks like shit, jaggies everywhere, 15 fps
OK, I'm sorry PC friends. Rev up those petitions, this is a disaster.
>>332618327
Of course losers like that don't.
I mean, do you even know how many idiots from here bought DOAX3, and that's not even a game.
>>332618031
Actually the music was the best part.
>>332617490
Seems better to have it on a PC where I can stick it on my 2nd or 3rd string 1tb hard drive with all my other games. On a PS4's default 500gb it might get cramped.
>>332618056
They added variety. Also its not the same, its hard to tell how good this combat system is because the 1 enemy doesn't get staggered easily and is just a big fucker
I think we can all agree that FF is dead. The demo was shit
WHERE ARE THE INTERVIEWS
I NEED MORE INFO
I NEED MOOOOORE
>>332614516
You should have given up after FFX-2 like I did.
>>332618459
>we
obviously your multiple personalities right?
>>332616432
知識の沈黙
The Silence of Knowledge
エンルィート・クシュアム
Enruit Kushwam (?)
>>332618376
The fuck are those lights on the building?
>>332617348
It's a dream you idiot
>>332616519
I'll give a benefit of the doubt. But IF people are basing their decision on buying the game based on the new demo, I can already smell the stinky comments from far away. They should've went all out with the combat in the game (minus the summons) meaning, full party and all.
>inb4 We already know we're playing as kid noctis ONLY
Ok, the only reason why I would include the party members, is because techniques are now tied to them. The mechanic will allows a greater variety of options for the players to choose from. In conclusion, the reveal event fucked it up. Little to no info is given about the demo, and now SE/Tabata is going to have to explain that the demo only shows a portion of the combat.
The combat is unresponsive and sucks fucking ass. I keep on WANTING to love this game, and I'll probably like the story and enjoy it, but I guess I'll just have to put up with the shitty combat.
>>332618376
Rofl, there's a nigger watching you fight the shitty boss in the upper left corner.
>everything has reflections
>character reflections everywhere in water and on floor
>street light casts no shadow
>>332618579
No, i'm asing why he DOES take falling damage it ruins the gameplay
>>332618525
I think that's a 'so' not an 'n'
So can we all at least agree the game is solid 3/10 at this point?
>>332616886
You're on /v/. Fags being hypocritical, overreactionary and stuff.
>Aerial Combos are not the same
When there wasn't even any before. This kind complaint is stupid. But oh well.
>>332617294
>>332617518
Her name is Ai Shinozaki, and I thought the demo was fine. I've been waiting ten years, I'm gonna play it no matter fucking what.
>>332617371
Ahaha holy shit
Didn't know you could go that high
I'm laughing so hard
>>332618459
No the demo was great and everything we've seen shows a complete revival to FF
>>332618702
The stroke begins at the bottom, so it's definitely an ン, though those two are particularly confusing.
>>332618783
you sound like a grade A shit eating shill
>>332618713
the demo is a solid 1/10 but the full game still has the potential to be interesting for the plot and open world content. I've completely given up hope in the combat since Duscae and this demo, though.
>>332618825
You sound like a grade A desperate to fit in meme spouter.
Haha wtf are the shield and shuriken supposed to be?
One the most useless weapons in videogames i've ever used
I didn't like the gameplay. It felt really slow and unresponsive.
How many crystals are in game?
>>332616840
The skill where you summon a shitload of swords is still in, armbringer or something
fuck you i liked it
Hopefully the full game allows for skills and attack customization.
That weapon wheel is crap and I hope the actual game isn't just swing around different weapons when you hit the D pad.
A menu would be easier, but we'll see.
>>332618916
I think 361
>>332618916
You can respawn monsters and keep racking up crystals, so it seems like it's infinite. Probably has a limit though.
>>332618916
>>332618952
Definitely 350+
>>332613715
Has he always looked that clearly Asian?
Anyone else turned off the game? Both demos didnt wow me and this one just doesnt feel good to play
>>332618916
>>332618952
Unlimited
You can grind the monsters in the villa presumably up to 999.
doubtful there's anything of value at that point
>>332618952
I had 491 and I missed a big one
so I think it's 500
>>332618826
>>332618713
You again do realize that the demo is mocked up, with none of the actual game systems besides basic actions in place right?
Now that I think about it, when has a Square game ever had good combat? CC and FF7 both were the most basic shit imaginable and yet I'm still surprised the demo's combat was literally hold square then hold circle. They should have just gone with MMO style combat like Xenoblade Chronicles if they wanted a huge world so bad.
>>332619028
Same. It made me realize that Square doesnt have the magic it had fifteen years ago.
>>332618760
how do you warp above ground again?
Anyone have a webm or any footage of the shield and shuriekn?
After this flops Square will go bankrupt. RIP Square
>>332617521
Why
>>332616063
>>332618760
>>332618376
At least you guys can see. I have no idea what the hell happened to my game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DONzRwvJ-_U
It was like this from the moment the giant spawned into the zone.
>>332614623
I think this is it for the game. Any improvements they do in the last 4 months will be superficial graphics stuff
>>332619074
KH2
I know people dislike the KH series, but the combat in KH2FM is the most ARPG combat to ever exist
>>332619074
Fuck off MMO shit is even worse
thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7ocJQP7xPo
Anyone got a decent screenshot of Carbuncle? Nothing on Google.
>>332613715
Ok the fucking combat is utter horseshit. I missed the original Duscae train, but got on board just a week ago on my dad's PS4 and it is very jarring how they completely butchered the combat.
>>332617251
>listening to fans and have changed the combat before
Were people really complaining that combat was too hard in Duscae???? FML
Duscae ain't perfect either with the framerate drops, janky hitbox, weird attack tells, but is is a step in the right direction in making "KH action rpg for adults." The Behemoth hunt actually feel like MH game for a moment.
>>332619107
Even back when it was verses?
>>332619145
They are just going to farm more cash using FFXIV
>>332618016
The aim of XV was to pull in newer crowds to the franchise. That's why there's fucking Greg Miller on stage for the uncovered event. But I can already see that the “newer crowd” that they are trying to pull, are gonna straight up reject it, since Uncharted is also coming out this year that have even better graphics than XV.
>inb4 better graphics doesn't equal better gameplay
It does if you're trying appease to casuals or newer crowds. XV is pretty in it's own rights, but don't kid yourself by saying it's better than Uncharted
>>332619140
I could stream it for a few minutes
>>332619028
I know what you mean. Nothing about this demo interestes me enough much to feel like keep playing it.
>>332619227
Do a google image search for just "Carbuncle" and it will be one of the first images.
>>332619173
At least MMO combat has actual substance, with a 3D RPG in such a large world you have to make sacrifices, you get one button combat or MMO.
>>332615468
Not with a bunch of twinks who ride around in an Audi.
>looked at trailers
>looks fucking magical and the gameplay looks fast paced and deep, almost a character action game
>demo finally out, only 3.6 gigs
>sweet
>looks ugly as hell
>action is clunky and dull with no impact to it
is it like this only because you play as the kid? when you turn into an older him the move set is a bit better (?) but dodging seems horrible, lock on is pretty bad and the lighting in this game is buggy as hell
>>332619074
FFX turn system, or FFX-2 turn system with the countdown timer
At least we know that Square Enix is going to die, they've put far too much into this piece of fucking shit and it's literally worse than any other Final Fantasy.
This time I hope no companies save them and they crash and burn.
>>332618542
The inside of the rooms in the building. I'm not sure if we can go into them or if it's just a texture.
>>332619247
that'd be awesome
>>332619312
The demo was advertised as simplified for newcomers.
>>332619030
anybody autistic enough to do this?
I think you can get like 40-50 crystals per run.
Casting Meteorain twice to catch all the monsters after spawning them.
And then you get the spell refil.
>>332619230
>Were people really complaining that combat was too hard in Duscae???? FML
It's the japs man. Japs are too retarded to play ED.
>>332619291
thanks
>>332619386
twitchtv/kevinwedler
Don't expect a gaempaly master though, i can't get used to the holding buttons system
>>332619074
TWEWY had amazing and unique combat. But that game's existence is a miracle
>>332619291
NOOOOOO HOLY SHIT
>>332619485
Jap devs just listen to us westerners. Not only we have better tastes than them but also we actually care about the gameplay.
>>332619291
huh is Carbuncle the official name for the little guy?
>>332619435
yea but like, if you're going to want new comers to come in, show more than your shit gameplay
also from the trailers, this game looks nothing like that
everything looks blurry and jaggy
>>332616831
Ass blasted mustards. The gameplay isn't that bad for a rpg
>>332618605
spoopy
>Ultimate Collector's Edition
>270 dollarydoos
Is this the most expensive collector's edition yet? I remember titan's fall was 250.
>>332619525
Those shurikens are pretty cool
>>332619758
they're slow as fuck
does the shield actually help gaurd any?
>>332619717
I'll probably buy the 100 dollar version, but if there was a cute girl statue I'd buy the 270 one, but there isn't, alas, I just need a steel book case and the artbook, so 100 it is.
>>332619652
I agree, I'm not a big fan of the combat and hope there's way more to it in the finished product.
>>332619892
Not that i've noticed, it says it helps when you time it but eh
>>332619892
from what i see in the stream, it does if timed right.
>>332617190
>gameplay is 15fps mashing the same button over and over
>mashing
You mean alternating between holding 2 buttons?
>>332619614
I disagree. SquareEnix literally said, they're trying to revive the console market in Japan with XV. From that, it is logical that they weighted the views from the Japs a little more than EU and NA because it coincide with their goal.
I hope they fucking fix this shit before it comes to PC, otherwise not even a pirate.
>>332618258
doesn't really work with Noctis hair
Well?
>>332620193
Good luck trying to crack Denuvo.
>>332620219
fuck no
>>332620156
is that why Noctis looks like he should be delivering me chow mein?
999 crystals is indeed the maximum
[/autism]
who the fuck thought running around as a kid was fun
who the fuck thought transforming into a vehicle that drives like shit is fun
why isn't there more fights with adult noctis, the iron giant fight was the only good thing about the demo
also can I dodge while attacking or on midair?
I MISSED SO MUCH SHIT IN THE DEMO
>>332620219
seeing as the gameplay is garbage
no thanks
>>332620219
>pre ordering a digital game months in advance
I'll probably get the game but not now, its not like you run out of downloads.
so do the different characters have skills or level up? or is everyone and everything in combat interchangeable?
>>332620219
Yes.
>>332620219
Of Course
They actually managed to make me fully Hype for a mainline FF game again.
>>332620219
I would. I still find the game worthy of purchase. But my decision and anyone else's should not affect your own. If you're split, try playing it again.
>>332620219
I'llrent it with gamefly. Think it's at least worth that right now if there's no PC version
>only 30,000 ultimate editions
so fucking retarded they wasted money on the pointless movie
>>332620219
>digital copy
>>332620219
Only if they fix this horrible framerate problem. The game is literally unplayable at the moment;
>>332620219
Not digitally, no.
Amazon preorder.
>>332616432
> super high quality character model
> low res background textures
Why do Japanese devs do this
>>332617518
Are you trying to say IX had bad combat in addition to framerate issues and loading times, or are these separate points?
>Hold O to win
Fucking 10 fucking years for this
Can't wait for Persona 5 to be hot shit too.
Weebshit BTFO everywhere
i like the taste of combat in the demo. looking forward to the actual game.
>>332620540
Optimization
>>332620630
>Persona
>ever shit
Lol nice joke
>>332619717
>270$
>an artbook
>10$ figurine
>exclusive box ™
>recolors of items ingame
It might, or might not be the most expensive collector's edition, but it's surely the poorest.
>>332618376
>Dynamic Resolution
LOL first the ps3 then the Xbone now the PS4
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAH
>>332620264
Possibly. But pretty boys will always makes girls and fujos panties wet.
>>332620219
I don't pre-order games anymore.
>>332620673
#FE is a pretty shit Persona game famsy.
>>332620673
>nice joke
>when p4 exists
Okay
>>332620864
0/10
>>332617371
haha man that wouldn't of made me laugh if he wasn't rolling around in pain that's hilarious
jesus christ this game looks ugly as sin
>>332620694
>three bonus items (outfit, weapon, car recolor)
>four in game items (travel pack, camera kit, angler set, gourmand set)
>play arts figurine (almost 100 dollars)
>steelbook
>kingsglaive blu ray
>exclusive steelbook
>brotherhood
>special soundtrack
>hardcover 192 page artbook
>poor
ok
>Demo mentions Nvidia gameworks right in the fucking license small print
>HURR DURR ITS NOT GONNA BE ON PC GUISE
Honestly, it's hard to have hope when move cancelling via dodging was something added in as response to fan feedback instead of being something the game was designed with
I have a really shitty feeling that the game will be a mess that tries to be too much style over substance
>>332621070
Young Noctis is more potato than Potato-chan
>>332621070
It doesn't look as impressive as I thought it would. The inside of the house looked nice but the natural places look like pre-made unity assets with very little done to give it a unique atmosphere.
Those framerate dips when looking at the city skyline were atrocious as well.
>>332614263
>but just feels word in RPGs where taking damage is required.
No. This always bothered me. In VII, for example, as a kid I used to just justify it in my head that Cloud or whoever was parrying a blow/bullets/blocking a laser rather than just taking a fucking whallop, and that he only got hit when his HP was getting low. To me, the HP bar was an indicator of personal stamina and eventually health when low, not simply health. I always took the HP bar getting lowered by an attack as an indicator of the affected party member getting winded by blocking a hefty blow. This also worked for people like Aeris who had low HP (low stamina and not trained well in defensive stances like Cloud or Tifa) but was great at magic and healing.
Strangely enough, in the movie, Cloud mostly parries strikes and bullets and only starts getting rekt when he starts tiring out, so apparently, I had the right idea as a kid.
This is going to be harder to rectify in my head with FFVII's real time battle system.
>>332621082
>three bonus items (outfit, weapon, car recolor)
>four in game items (travel pack, camera kit, angler set, gourmand set)
all on-disc dlc and reskins
>play arts figurine (almost 100 dollars)
Production value - 10$
>steelbook
Production value - 5$
>kingsglaive blu ray
Production value - 1$
>exclusive steelbook
You already mentioned that
>brotherhood
>special soundtrack
Very special
>hardcover 192 page artbook
wowitsfuckingnothing
>poor
ok
>>332619623
Carbuncle has been a reoccurring summon throughout the FF series, older forms had him being more bunny like, it makes me wonder what made them switch to a Fennec based creature
>>332621186
its funny how the indoor textures are a blured mess
I want to be hyped for this game, but how the fuck can I if the gameplay is garbage
I gave it another go. Nah. Combat absolutely sucks
This is what they replaced the turn based combat of Final Fantasy VII with isn't it?
>>332621410
yes that's what they showed in the gameplay trailer for XV remake
>>332621249
>all on-disc dlc and reskins
ok proof
>production value times 3
ok you know how the world works, thanks?
there are two steelbooks, numbskull.
it is special.
you don't like art?
kthnksbai
>>332621410
>This is what they replaced the turn based combat of Final Fantasy VII with isn't it?
No, there's an actual ATB meter in the FFVII version. We don't know how it works, but there's an ATB element to it and party member switching.
>>332621338
I gave it 5 goes, fucking love it.
>HOLDING THE CIRCLE BUTTON
WTF SQUARE??? JESUS!!
>>332621557
>called yourself Square-Enix
>hold Circle instead of Square
I just woke up
>Stand By Me is the theme
>performed by Florence + the Machine
Did I fall into a universe where nothing makes sense
Whats this agriem or whatever shit supposed to be?
>Hold O to win
I knew it couldn't leave the stink of 13 even with a rebranding.
>>332621604
square is defend
they're trying to defend this
>that horrible combat
Final Fantasy is dead, time to go back to Bravely
>>332616406
As oposed to western rpg, you arent supposed to self insert, noctis is his own chracter and you are playing his story
>circle to attack
>square to guard
it should be the other way around this is bothering me too much
>>332621557
You can mash it like you can in KH. Does the exact same thing though.
Its insanely that they went back on the godly KH combat of Versus 13 and ended up at THIS. I really fucking hope the final game is a mix up of both ED and this. There are pieces of a fun combat system there, but it still needs work
>>332620918
P4 was confessed to have been a rushed game.
You need to re-examine your standards if you think it's worth a gold medal in any department beside catering to the lowest denominator.
>Start demo
>think this is a cute little Kingdom Hearts like opening
>get to the part where you play the actual combat
>it's shit
I'm now worried about FF7Re and KH3
PEOPLE LITERALLY JUST PAID
$270 FOR THIS SHIT
I CAN'T STOP FUCKING LAUGHING
FUCK
>Square should be the attack button
>Circle should be the defend button
They interchanged it. Fuck this.
>first FF game
>demo comes out
>was already hyped from all the gameplay they showed
>looked like a good blend of fast paced action and magic, almost DMC like
>play it
>graphics looks like dog shit
>thats ok, they'll patch that and provide performance updates
>get to combat
>its garbage
>no, its just like that because you're playing as a kid
>play as the adult version
>still sucks
its absolutely amazing how 1 small little demo can drop your hype levels faster than an elevator with its cords cut
>>332616432
Where are the shadows?
>start demo
>expect it to be shit like /v/ said
>it's actually a fun platformer/rpg with a simple yet still potentially challenging combat system
>while the demo itself is fairly easy, i can see how in the final product might offer greater difficulty by encouraging you to do more than just hold down O for tougher and/or more numerous enemies.
>mfw /v/ was wrong again
>>332622073
Nomura is making those games though
We waited 10 years for this garbage? The gameplay is sluggish as fuck and the FPS just keep dropping.
>>332621410
At least there's an ATB meter and you can switch between party members.
>>332622186
This worries me even more
>people are actually surprised the combat is shit
I (and hundreds of others) TOLD YOU SO
>ordered ffxv ultimate collectors edition
>refresh the confirmation page
>look into my account to see my order
>nothing is there
>never got a confirmation email
>try for customer service
>one of the fields is to put in your ID number, or EMAIL ADDRESS used for the order
>i fucking put it in three times, the email address I used
>"You must provide a valid Order ID or the email address you used for the purchase."
what in the mother fuck is wrong with this shit man.
>>332621410
No i think FFVII is going to use something like trails combat, with positioning and all but still turn based at the core
Spent all this time gathering all crystals I can get (421)
And unlock sht that I don't have access to.
>>332622186
Good. He's the only person left at SE that actually still knows what he's doing.
Even half the good shit in FFXV was all his ideas.
>>332614529
i was too.
It wasnt working ;_;
>that combat
so it's witcher 3 all over again?
>>332619435
Oh shit that's right.
>mfw more hype for the movie now that I know the game will be 40 hours of holding O
>>332622257
Duscae combat was OK. It is better than Witcher 1/2/3 and borderline MH combat for the Behemoth battle boss, with good tells, positioning, etc necessary if you don't want to spam the limit break. Just evade, or whatever that was called was also kind of satisfying, and it is nice to have attacks being a full commitment and not cancelable
Since when does /v/ own current gen consoles?
Literally fuck you guys for ruining the industry
>>332622538
What's the movie gonna be about anyways? Same plot?
Final Fantasy 15 - Environment Trailer - Uncovered Final Fantasy XV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVjjkqe64_0
Holy shit that soundtrack. So beautiful
>10 years
>for a clunky action rpg
At least its pretty and has great music
>>332622540
Witcher is bottom of the barrel.
>>332622628
at this point the only thing I'm still looking forward to in FFXV is the soundtrack
XV-kun is no more his hopes and dreams gone.
>>332618510
Except FFX-2 has amazing combat. Best in the series.
This is a joke. It's for braindead people. I won't even say "it's for kids" because older and more complicated games back in the day were for kids then. This is just for drop out retards.
>>332619717
man i was actually considering getting this and I've never so much as considered getting a collector's edition before, but come on
I mean I would've gone as far as 200 and that doesn't even count the fact that I'll have to buy a fucking PS4 just to play this gameon launch dayI'm considering just going on the waitlist anyway and seeing if I can manage to scrounge up some cash in the meantime
>>332622606
It shows what happens in Lucis, while Noctis is taking his trip
>>332619717
>$300 for a shit game and Play Arts figure
>>332622438
Worse than witcher 3. It's a fucking shit
>>332622854
This is the power of Tabata.
>>332622854
He said after not before.
X-2 a fun.
>>332622854
I loved FFX-2's combat. That's why I said "after FFX-2".
Why is everyone saying 10 years though?
>>332623101
FFXV was announced in 2006.
>>332623101
>Why is everyone saying 10 years though?
Because this shitty game was announced in 2006.
>>332623179
>>332623185
Holy shit. They were only on FFXII then. Was it always planned to be FFXV?
>>332622540
I haven't played Duscae, but after playing this demo, I can't say I'm too excited for this game, but I also can't say I'm disappointed. I can see how the game's combat style could have a lot of potential. Honestly, people complaining about "holding O" are being retarded if they think button mashing O a la Kingdom Hearts is somehow better or more challenging. I can see the potential in this system to create almost cinematic fights while adding difficulty in having to aim spells or or certain attack items and with having to know when to break off your flurry of combos to defend, evade or flee from tons of enemies swarming on you or from some big guy who will grab you and pummel you into the ground if you get too close. But there's a downside where there could be so many mook enemies who don't require to think to beat them. I like what I saw in some of the trailer where you have to sneak, warp strike and warp back to a hiding spot and in this demo I liked how I had to warp above the iron giant before he got of the ground and lunged at me and tore me apart. Those elements I think have promise if they can avoid feeling too repetitive.
>>332623274
Go read on FFXIII Versus mate
Does anyone feel like Duscae had better combat?
Something feels even more off in this new demo what the fuck man.
Downloading now, how long is it?
>>332622854
What sucks is that 13-3 actually has pretty interesting and fun ARPG gameplay and KH2FM has amazing gameplay and we get stuck with this
I'm not as disappointed as most people here because I had some fun with it but I'd be lying if u said I wasn't a bit let down
I never got to play ED either to be able to compare
>>332623315
20 minutes
shit combat
The demo was awfully short, kinda disappointing.
You do have in mind the demo was like KH at lvl1 with no abilities, right?
>this is the combat that will save final fantasy
wew lad
>>332613715
Why does he have a restraining bolt on his chest? Is he a droid? Is he carrying the Death Star plans?
>>332623309
it was purposely simplified for newcomers.
>>332623274
No. It was originally Final Fantasy Versus XIII. It was supposed to be connected to FFXIII.
Type-0 was also originally supposed to be a XIII game.
>>332623386
>20 minutes
Fug
>>332623334
I think this game is aimed at the Assassin's Creed audience.
>make ED 2.5
>add Iron Giant, Magic and weapon swapping on d-pad
>keep everything else the way it was
>>332623291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrOBSm0JJ-s
Here's some taste of Duscae combat. All those dodges were manual dodges ala witch time. There were obviously some rough spots, but it was bretty decent before they totally fuck it up in this (and likely final) iteration
It's just a demo guys. I'm sure they'll address fan complaints and fix up the shitty frame rate. There's still 6 months until release.
>>332623591
Must be the normies complaining about the game being too hard
Crystal Chronicles was a better ARPG honestly
>>332623386
>20 minutes
Seriously?
>>332623912
I'm dead serious
you can spend a solid hour collecting the orange thing but you'll get nothing from it
literally 0 rewards for doing it
![848f1f48d676fe617a464b003aeee2e0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UqXEXTe.jpg "848f1f48d676fe617a464b003aeee2e0[1]")
10 years of waiting cant end like this
>>332623979
Well shit. And I was getting hyped for it.
>>332623912
I took a lot of time and collected like 400 of these golden thingies and fought the golem twice.
Had like 40 minutes clocked at the end.
>>332623670
Yep, pretty much faggot "journalist" like
http://www.vg247.com/2015/03/25/final-fantasy-15-demo-episode-duscae-impressions/
who also wrote
http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/15/dmc-devil-may-cry-fans-are-a-crying-shame/
She can't handle action game and thinks that DmC is the pinnacle of cuhrayzee combat.
>>332623591
>no impact the game
>>332624191
>>332623670
>this damage control
>>332623591
>>332623670
Well, from the demo it seems there's an auto-defend option and a manual dodge function. The auto-dodge doesn't seem to dodge all attacks and both ways of dodging break off your attack in such a way that you leave yourself much more open to an attack if you try to attack again. What people see as the character's movements being too clunky I think could prevent Kingdom Hearts' action RPG syndrome where the characters move between attacks and dodges too suddenly. Again, the potential is there, it's just a matter of how they use it in the final product. One thing I noticed while I was playing was that I kept trying to play it like it was more like KH, which kept getting me smacked. This feels like it might be a game where they want you to breathe and take a good look before you strike, without of course sacrificing tension and epicness that you'd get from any other ARPG or that cinematic feel they want
Where's FFXV-kun? Thought he would be doing some massive damage control for this joke of a game.
>>332620008
Carbuncle looks like it has a cat penis on its head.
>Note: the shipment will occur after September 30, 2016
Wtf does this mean?
>>332624604
Blew his brains out when his mom freaked over him ordering 30,000 copies of the collector edition.
>>332614529
I don't even play Dark Souls but I still tried to go for iframe dodges, I gotta wean myself off that.
>>332624656
It means you get the game a week or two after everyone else. That's a privilege worth paying premium for!
>>332624198
I'm not saying it's good, and I'm not expecting it to be MH/Bloodborne tier combat. All I'm saying is that the Platinum episode is a big step down from already imperfect Duscae combat. It's clunkier, dumbed down, easier, and give you way less option.
>>332624453
>This feels like it might be a game where they want you to breathe and take a good look before you strike
Except not. Duscae maybe, if they tone down the Behemoth HP a little bit and make it less of a grind, plus more reactive dodge in place of fluid animation.
>I think could prevent Kingdom Hearts' action RPG syndrome where the characters move between attacks and dodges too suddenly
Have you seen DMC or Bayo? Nothing wrong with having janky animation in an action game, as long as it's clear which string are full commitment, and which string are "pokes" that are cancelable.
he was fucking playing the platinum demo on pc what the fuck
What's your biggest critique concerning today's reveals?
I've been hype for this game for 10 years now, but seeing an anime series about it, an iphone mini-game, toy hammer demos and flying cars made me really nauseated for some reason. It's hard to explain.
I wanted an VIII-esque Airships or space shuttles, or anything, but flying Bond cars feels so wrong. I'll probably just never use the feature,
You can bet your ass I've ordered a handful of Ultimate Edition packs already (to make profit on), but still.
>>332624830
yeah, the game's on PC. that's where most of the footage has came from, not the shitty low res jaggy 15 fps console versions.
Im really not surprised to see the bitching and complaining, it's to be expected. And honestly, taking a step back after completing the demo, maybe the combat is a little too simplistic, but Id be lying if I said i wasnt having fun fighting the Iron Giant. And these people bitching about the graphics . . . . lol . . .
>>332622213
I want to protect Anko
>>332616084
is lords of the fallen any good? i really like the character design in it so i was thinking of picking it up
>>332624721
>It means you get the game a week or two after everyone else
Why thou? It aint giving me another option
>>332624770
I never played Duscae
and a lot of people have been telling me that Platinum was an older build
a little research shows this
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/final-fantasy-15s-free-demo-drops-today/1100-6436117/
>The purpose of the demo, according to Square Enix, is to give players a look at the finished game's visuals, as well as introduce them to the final combat and magic systems.
>is to give players a look at the finished game's visuals, as well as introduce them to the final combat and magic systems.
I'll try replaying it tomorrow when I'm not tired but I doubt the gameplay will get any better
They'll surely fix the combat, right guys?
RIGHT??
They really made it like the old FFs with this "hold a button to win", I feel the nostalgia already
>>332624857
>What's your biggest critique concerning today's reveals?
That the thing you spend the most time doing in a final fantasy game "fighting in combat" is complete garbage.
>>332622181
The problem is people were expecting kingdom Hearts and dark souls level combat depth. Then we have most of the thread that's just shit posting from shit posters and mustards.
>>332624982
Of course. They aren't going to ship the game early.
>>332624857
The combat. The trailers got me hyped, but the gameplay was eh. Driving was neat I guess.
They really need a ATR soon to show their build of the game that has everything. We need confirmation that weapon skills are still in the game, and maybe a better/faster magic system.
>>332616063
Is this really the combat?
I hear dramatic music, but all I see the player doing is holding circle and occasionally hitting a flashy QTE.
Is there any strategy to this?
>>332624857
>What's your biggest critique concerning today's reveals?
-Have money to pay AAA real actors like Sean Bean
-Have 10 years to make the game
-Combat a shit, dumbed down and even worse than previous demo
Fucked up priorities and missed opportunities. It's gonna be MGSV all over again, and this time Sqeenix might be kill for good.
>>332625170
MGSV had mostly excellent core gameplay. The problem was the story and the fact that the game was unfinished and stitched together.
>>332614529
So was I. I figured it wasn't working and I still kept doing it.
Wheres mah dark souls 3
tfw the demo was fucking shit and the game runs like trash but i'm still mildly excited for some reason.
well, the combat might suck but maybe everything else might be good, like the open world content and the storyline.... probably not.
Does anyone else prefer ED to this? The combat in that felt a lot more...nuanced? Even then it was still relatively simple
Well the demo is shit
Cancelled my pre-order
>>332625392
I liked ED better aswell. Probably smaller more numerous enemies vs 1 big guy. Also, I want weapon skills back.
>>332615779
Who I named Carbuncle
What's with the FPS in the demo?
It feels like it's not even running anywhere near 30fps, more like 10-15fps.
I don't mind the lack of AA but the low frame rate is annoying considering the combat is twitch based.
>>332625392
I'm pretty sure this demo isn't an accurate depiction of the actual gameplay. It's a meme demo, one might say.
Yes, Square is dumb enough to do that.
>all these people saying the demo is shit
Is it salty mustards?
I'm fucking loving this demo.
>>332624770
>plus more reactive dodge in place of fluid animation.
But what I'm getting at is that I think the fluid animation over jerky reactive animation might be used to a good effect, that is making it so you can't just run headlong into any battle and expect to repeatedly mash the attack button to win cause the faster you mash, the faster you attack, which is one thing I despise about most action games to be honest.
>>332620219
Yes
>that raindrop magic
muh dick
>>332625392
>Does anyone else prefer ED to this? The combat in that felt a lot more...nuanced? Even then it was still relatively simple
Yep. Duscae was way better, the just dodge were pretty satisfying. All they need was flash cue ala Bayonetta because some of the attacks by the big monsters have wonky hitbox
Platinum combat is an atrocity
>>332621082
The Plays Arts figure is actually $130 based on the others.
>>332624830
>Using logitech gamepad
Top why
you guys are so jaded, this was awesome. september can't come fast enough.
>>332625524
Wasn't there a article saying that XV would get 2 battle systems, one for classic and other action combat?
>>332620626
You realize this is a tech demo with everything mocked up and not the final games system, right?
Seeing all these comments, I'm not sure I want to try the demo.
I don't want it to take away from the final game experience, as this shit just looks like a casual gameplay tutorial that just seems to make people depressed as fuck.
But I want the Carbuncle. What does he do?
BOING BOING
HAN HAN
MPFF
HOINK HOINK
>>332621707
Except you are supposed to tap O to attack, holding it only repeats the input for the duration which is literally no different than holding X in any other FF
>>332625609
So you can go both ways I guess, you can go full jank high speed adrenaline action like DMC and Bayonetta, or you could go slow and calculated like Dark Souls/Monster Hunter. Either way is OK.
Problem is, many ARPG like FFXV and Witcher 2/3 fell somewhere in the middle, plus a not fully realized hitbox because ARPG are not dedicated action game, resulting in very half assed janky combat with unfair hitbox and feels "automated" for the sake of cinematics.
>/v/ saying the demo combat is immense shit
>ohvbeingvagain
>play the demo more for curiosity now
>pretty much the same exact shit as duscae
>it's good
why the fuck do i even come to this site anymore. just a bunch of angry video game nerds
>not many things rendered on screen
>still 15 fps
>look at the sky/ground
>still feels near 15 fps
>finish demo
>"Would you like to pre-order?"
Looks like I'll be watching others play it on release day before I make my decision
>>332625713
They probably didn't want to look like they favored PS4 over the Bone or vice-versa.
I had a lot of fun for an hour. Named carbuncle "Pasta".
It'll be a day one buy for me. I was 20 when they announced this game, now I'm almost 30... There's no way I can't be psyched that it's finally coming out.
>>332625781
>But I want the Carbuncle. What does he do?
Looks cute and has soft paws.
I bet that little white fox will be the final boss
>>332625881
Fucking this, I was getting a bit worried waiting for it to download, but I ended up enjoying it.
>>332625881
also fps has been completely fine for me. are you people actually real or am i talking to bots?
>>332626030
I was just thinking the same thing. It feels silly to think people might not buy a game because of FPS of all things.
>>332626108
Nothing silly about that.
So how do you unlock those last Platinum plates? How many of those gold shards do you have to collect?
What do those Platinum plates do?
>>332626030
FPS isn't too bad for me here. Sometimes it shits itself to 5FPS for a few seconds but whatever.
But Noctis taking 10 seconds to jump is unforgiveable.
>>332625881
>pretty much the same exact shit as duscae
- Roll out of attack animation anytime
- "Just" dodge is kill
- Parry is now a QTE rather than directional indicator like ED
The only positive were weapon switching, making combat more coherent rather than attack string based like in ED
>>332625781
i think the only thing for playing the demo is to name the carby which will carry over in the game? or did they say specifically that that is the only way to have the carby appear in the final game? i wasn't too sure.
>>332626030
>>332626108
I wouldn't mind if the FPS was consistently near 25-30fps but it jumps all over the place during the Iron Giant fight and you can feel it dipping near 15 fps.
It feels so bad
>>332625871
>>332625871
Based on that stealth trailer, as well as other trailers, I'm thinking that jumping into large groups of enemies is not really going to be how this game will mean for one to play it. It may be that this game could be one where avoiding the enemy and finding ways around them to get quest items and such is what's most important.
>>332626108
yes how could anyone have STANDARDS with spending their hard-earned money its inconceivable especially with an aspect that has a fundamental impact on the gameplay.
>>332626151
300 I think. Plat plates are used in the giant fight room.
>>332626178
Maybe Noctis is more used to teleporting over jumping. It's still inexcusable.
>>332625881
The fact that people judge the FPS, combat and so on in a demo just meant to show off some physics, weather effects and shit and to build hype from a slice that is most likely not in the finished game is pretty funny.
When I saw Carbuncle on the title screen my fist thought was "why does it have a tiny dog penis on its forehead?"
>>332626216
I thought it was the only way getting him in the final game.
But they didn't explain what he actually does. What does he do in PD?
>>332626298
Obviously to please Luna while fucking Noctis.
>>332624198
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y2vCko6V4pQ
The devs seem to not understand this concept.
>>332626298
>Carbuncle
Google "carbuncle" and find out.
>>332626216
Playing this demo through to the end is the only way to get Carbuncle in the final release.
__
Has anybody used the Mystery plate at the citadel to the left of the staircase, opposite the weather and time changers?
I had 493 crystals and it wasn't active for me.
The biggest flaw is that parry is now a rare random "QTE" that that has a window of almost 3 seconds
Instead of actually being able to parry every attack if your timing is right
I really want to like this game's gameplay, but I really don't know what's going on with the combat.
As kid Noctis, you can just auto-hit/auto-block shit. Then, you have adult Noctis, where it's a little more like ED, but they changed the how weapons are equipped and some other stuff.
>>332614529
Iframes are the stupidest mistake Souls made. I'm fucking glad DS2 forced you to grind for them at least, way too may people act like they're the true "correct" way to play the game despite completely fucking up the way you think about positioning.
>>332626283
They literally claimed one of the things the demo is meant to show off is the combat. Square is retarded enough to say this and then put boring lv1 combat in the game, but that's entirely their fuckup. Or if the combat is just straight-up bad, well, still their fuckup.
>Camera still way too fucking close.
>Fine details like hair still look like shit.
>Combat still plays like shit and doesn't belong in a main series FF game.
I can forgive the "laggy" controls because they built Noctus to handle more life-like instead of the standard issue arcade motions we are used to in most games. Seriously, the director told his animators to go climb a mountain trail and take notes on how their body moves according to the angle going up and down elevation.
I still have the PS4 UCE preordered but I'll probably downgrade to deluxe after my Vive arrives in May.
>>332626216
>i think the only thing for playing the demo is to name the carby which will carry over in the game? or did they say specifically that that is the only way to have the carby appear in the final game? i wasn't too sure.
You can only get Carbuncle if you finish the demo.
When you finish the demo you can name him whatever you want and it will be imported into the final game.
>>332626267
>Based on that stealth trailer
Sorry to ruin your day anon, but if you play Duscae, the stealth sequence were justscriptedakin Beyond 2 souls "stealth" sequence
>>332626389
They're all just MP and Magic charge refills
You can get 2 extra weapons though if you teleport a little higher onto the building
>use a 1440p 144hz IPS monitor for my pc
>play this demo on my 50 hdtv that i havent touched since i beat bloodborne
>that fucking FRAMERATE
I can't deal with this shit.
>>332626449
did they ever mention what the fuck carbuncle does in the game
The battle system is better than Bloodborne, tho
>>332626464
I found those
Good to know I didn't miss out on anything worthwhile.
>give it 24 hours, somebody will find a secret super hidden plate that requires 999 crystals to open with some fucked cutscene or extra fightWith the games real combat and not this watered down pander-to-the-masses level 1 shit
>>332614402
so wait, they've changed the combat AGAIN?
>>332626426
>They literally claimed one of the things the demo is meant to show off is the combat.
Yes how it works, the basics, how they reworked the combat from Episode Duscae. They did not say that they gave you the full version of the combat system.
For example magic is reduced to consumables (unlikely to be in the final game), no summons, no party members and a bunch of other things shown off in the later gameplay trailers, etc.
Heck, most people will finish the demo without even unlock the Armitage.
It's obviously not a 1:1 representation of the final combat system.
I downloaded the demo expecting to fap to Cidney.
I was 99% sure everything up to the Iron Giant was a tutorial and the real meat of the demo stats after that.
>mfw "would you like to order?"
how do you get the secret weapons?
>>332626509
>did they ever mention what the fuck carbuncle does in the game
Carbuncle has traditionally applied the Reflect buff to your entire party, so I would imagine something similar in FF15.
>>332626680
Yep. Worse than Witcher combat now
>>332626680
It's more like the E3 2013 gameplay now, but magic has charges and they're thrown like grenades
You can't fully judge the combat yyet though, since you have no party in the new demo, no magic other than fire and no skills or any control over skills or levels
You can only change weapons in a menu
>>332625595
Yes, it's just mustards. The combat is fine.
>>332626283
See
>>332625170
This is the final combat.
>>332626782
>I downloaded the demo expecting to fap to Cidney.
The game flat out tells you it's a dream sequence featuring young Noctis and Carbuncle.
>>332624973
It's like poor man's dark souls. I guess it's okay. Though it has frame rate issues which kinda sucks, other than that- if it's under 10or so bucks, thrn yeah
>>332626861
So what is carbuncle?
The spirit soul of the car?
>>332626795
Warp up the building 2 or 3 times and look down you'll see the two paltes, the're pretty much abouve the huge pillars
>>332626680
No, but everyone was expecting a KH-style combat. But, boy, how they were wrong. It feels faster, but the holding down the button is retarded. However, people need to understand, this is FF, their combat will always be easy as fuck. And btw, like this >>332626691 guy said, a LOT of the combat is being left out actually.
>>332626856
>This is the final combat.
No it's not, see >>332626691
It's painfully obvious it isn't.
Now I'm not some blind fanboy so don't go throwing out some dumb baseless assumptions.
I don't have this game pre-ordered and I will wait until the game is released to see if I get it or not. But it's clear as day that the demo won't represent the finished and full combat system, FPS and so on.
>>332626861
Yes, but I thought that's just the tutorial and it'll continue into a demo similar to Episode Duscae.]
Not even mad, fantastic trolling.
I don't understand how defense/parry works
>>332626904
>So what is carbuncle?
>The spirit soul of the car?
The figurine Noctis dad places by the bed, most likely containing the spirit of Carbuncle and given to Noctis by his father to protect him.
Judt finished it. Man, I thought fps was fine, until I got to warp hueeee.
>>332627059
Ah. I played it with japanese audio, expecting subtitles. Didn't find any subtitles.
>>332627051
Parry is now redcued to a huge QTE prompt that lasts for 3 seconds so you can hardly miss it and its random which is the stupidest thing ever, it means you can no longer parry simply every attack reaction.
Parry should be a reward and not something that shows up randomly
>>332627010
I'll take SE word over your delusions.
Looks worse than Bloodborne
Runs worse than Bloodborne.
Framerate worse than Bloodborne.
Lads, how does FROM do it?
>>332627124
Turn on the subtitles in the options menu.
>>332627140
this demo wasnt made with final fantasy fans in mind, it was made for retarded casuals like you to get into it so they can buy the final game which this is just a small taste of. what don't you mustards fucking understand
Hope digital foundry does a video on it. There's no way this ran at 30 fps, it mustve been dropping to 25 or lower all the time.
>>332627273
wat
>>332627301
There were at elast down to 10fps drops when you switch back to small noctis or when you use some of the spells
I don't want to see the performance when you're actually in an open area with grass and lots of monsters, they probably just took away the grass at this point
>>332627273
>mustards
MAXIMUM PROJECTING.
>>332627220
>I'll take SE word over your delusions.
The only delusional one here is you. I even told you things that were missing in the actual demo from the final game. If you ignore this yet still don't think you're delusional then you're stupid as shit.
But by all means, screencap your posts, use them as wallpaper and when the game is released you can see that you're wrong.Or will your delusion rise to the surface again?
Either way, if you don't want to listen to reason, fine by me.
>>332627273
>Final Fantasy Demo
>Final Fantasy on the title
>wasnt made with final fantasy fans in mind
???
I bet you also think that for a gaming site, "Gamer don't have to be your audience"
>>332618259
It's still the best cover-shooter game ever, period.
Combat looked cool but played like shit, pretty sad about that. Lighting and weather effects were top notch though, especially the light and rain playing off of the crocodile scales. As long as the combat is improved in the final game I will be happy.
All I wanted was manual dodging, was that so hard to ask. I'll probably still buy it, but i wasn't that impressed. Maybe the story can make up for it
>>332627548
>As long as the combat is improved in the final game I will be happy.
As it's already been explained. This is the barebones of the final combat.
>>332625881
And the angriest gamers you ever heard?
>>332621196
autism
>>332627606
As I said, as long as it is improved I will be happy.
>>332627474
>as well as introduce them to the final combat and magic systems.
Stop making assumptions wen we have an official statement.
I hope they add more combo animations or combo finishers with different effects like in KH
I don't want to see the same 3 swing animatoin over and over and over again
>>332627589
You can do a manual dodge by tapping the dodge button.
I'm really enjoying this demo. It's really short though. Compared to ED anyway.
>>332614263
>behemoth
Yeah I just beat the giant, there weren't any noticeable framerate drops at all. Holding to dodge seems to be the viable option over rolling, however I've rolled over his sword swings a couple times which felt satisfying. That was pretty difficult for the first time.
Warping freely is definitely improved from Duscae. The camera was pretty wonky mostly when I was around the toy blocks trying to jump on them. Combat is perfectly fine and I don't doubt this was simply just a show off as they said. It's only improving from here. Using magic was a little off-putting for me, until I found that you can just throw it at a locked enemy, but still.
That was fun. I really can't wait for the final game.
