IT'S FUCKIN HAPPENING
JOHN ROMERO MAKING DAIKATANA 2
>>332416679
What's that
If he's going to make a successor to DOOM or Quake, it better be good
Are you ready to be John Romero's bitch /v/
>>332416679
Holy hell what.
I wonder if it will be able to compete with E.Y.E.
That's the only way to not be a disappointment like Duke Nukem Forever.
Please make it shitty like the original, just in a hilarious and fun way.
>>332416709
Holy shit, underaged as fuck.
Link to the tweet:
https://twitter.com/romero/status/714835176174587904
Link to the studio twitter:
https://twitter.com/Nightworkgames
>>332416679
>DAIKATANA 2
for literally what purpose? the first was a fucking disaster
![c4pIG[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ABVb7M1.jpg "c4pIG[1].jpg")
So he quit his gas station work?
>>332417326
See >>332399309.
It's the only way this project makes sense.
A new genre of post-modern gaming.
Not sure if want.
>>332416679
>making a sequel to a shit game
literally nothing
The last time he did this resulted in a cancelled game called Serenity
>>332417326
OP's pulling your leg. Nothing was announced yet.
>>332416679
Why don't he make something with Carmack again?
better be good this time
>>332417725
They were work buddies. But not friends.
>>332417725
Because gas stations peasants can't work with Oculus Rift princesses
>>332417547
Ana Titana was a great game.
>>332416679
I would gladly take another Daikatana in exchange to all the nu-gamer faggotry and dreck the modern video game industry shits out.
This is how bad video games and especially the fps genre has become.
>>332417725
Carmack is Facebooks bitch now. And also busy shitposting on twitter about shit that is no longer relevant.
>>332416679
>John Romero's FPS
DEJA-FUCKING-VU
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literally who
and who the fuck is john remaro?
>>332417725
Carmack has transcended Romero in every way shape or form
>>332417815
bullshit, they used to be great friends until Romero's shitty habits and over blown ego made everything go to shit
>>332417326
He should just remake the first game. The basic idea was good, it was just retardedly implemented with buggy levels and annoying AI.
>>332417985
>>332417997
The other John from Doom, the one not making VR and spaceship code.
>>332417725
Carmack is just an overrated programer fagboi. He DOES NOT MAKE VIDEO GAMES NOR DOES HE DESIGN ANYTHING. He is just the game engine guy - a tech monkey in the background.
>>332418045
>and over blown ego made everything go to shit
its kind of obvious desu senpai
he posts like he wears a fedora
When was the last time he made a good game? The 90's?
>>332418080
Nah it would be better forgotten. There are ample better posibilities and tying any future games to that disaster will not play well with anyone.
>>332417928
>nu-gamer faggotry
This meme is used exclusively by children, ironically
>>332418086
stop ruining my bait faggot
>>332418093
>tech monkey
Don't you mean tech grandpa with an ability to tell nice stories?
So is Kickstarter confirmed?
>>332418093
Oh yeah, that's it- just a programmer. Don't need any of those to make good games. Damn idea guys.
Friendly reminder that these motherfuckers made DOOM. And Romero works at a Gas Station.
>>332418419
Head like a hole!
>>332417326
>the first was a fucking disaster
he wasted all that money, pissed off so many people, and it STILL made a profit. We should all be so lucky to be able to make a disaster like Daikatana.
>>332418093
>jealous CS dropout knows nothing, speaks through anus
Honestly, Daikatana would've been a great FPS if it wasn't for the forced AI partners who die easily and use up ammo
another kickstarter from an old developer who prey on the nostalgia of stupid old gamers, promising them a game "like they used to be", donate 10k for a chance to meet with him and his wife for dinner.
wait and see.
>>332416679
>DAIKATANA
TRIGGERED
>>332417725
>Why don't he make something with Carmack again?
For what reason? He doesn't need him to make the engines anymore. Romero was the heart and soul of Doom and Quake and people forget that ultimately Carmack was a genius programmer, but these days he's entirely superfluous.
>>332418518
I seriously don't get this image. It seems like some arbitrary quote from him paired with him choking out a black guy so autists can yell "BASED"
>>332418419
Romero makes phone games and collects gas station memorabilia.
>>332418518
wtf is this image? all he's saying is "shit's not powerful enough to support camera AND render 3D graphics". Why is this image pretending it's some profoundly smart thing?
JOHN ROMERO'S ASBOUT TO FUCK YOU IN THE ASS
>>332418703
Carmack is known for his long-winded explanations with many tangents
Also he choked a guy out once while explaining his sweet judo moves.
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>>332416679
inb4 it's another .wad
>>332418730
>Romero makes phone games
I'd truly respect him more if he was working at a retro Gas Station.
>>332418261
Said the nu-male atheist fedora tipper who brings up and resorts to children when trying to make his contrarian point and who uses "ironically" and "exlusively" in one sentence.
>>332419104
He's working on the next doom
>>332419104
>yfw he's behind girlsgame.com
>>332419104
Just because the medium is overrun with Flappy Bird clones doesn't mean it's a bad thing to make games for.
>>332416679
can't wait
I swear to god, you better be constantly running (without needing to press shift) at 9999999 kilometers a hour.
Why do you think Romero and Stevie Case broke up? Why did he, a millionaire rockstar of video games, decide to date a nobody feminist loudmouth after being with literal playboy models?
>>332418640
>Heart and soul functioning without the brain
Yeah, no.
What if it works on VR?
What if because if that the two Johns cross paths again and make the ultimate VR game? The defining VR game like how Doom was the defining PC game?
>>332418419
>Robin Williams made Doom
>>332419536
Brenda at least creates video games and is not a literal who in the gaming world. Stevie Case was just a bland girl with tits.
>>332416679
[BITCHMAKING INTENSIFIES]
>>332419568
Carmack is one guy. These days most AAA studios have dozens of people working only on the graphics engine. Carmack is talented as fuck, but he isn't a god. Even in the book Masters of Doom he was talking about how he had pretty much reached the apex of what he was capable of making with Doom 3 and that he was starting to get bored with graphics programming.
These days any schmuck can download the Unreal fucking Engine 4 and make whatever they want to with it. Who needs Carmack?
>>332419963
That's such a hilariously sad simplification of what a brilliant programmer adds to a team that I think I'm going to cry.
Good job, anon.
>>332419839
>Brenda at least creates video games
Honestly I've heard about one single game she's created, which was the Auschwitz simulator, and other than that I have only heard of her either complaining about being called John Romero's wife, or about headlining feminist talks at GDC.
Don't get me wrong, I don't HATE her or anything, I like how she says that prizes for female gamedevs are retarded, but she would be nowhere near where she is now if she weren't fucking John Romero.
>>332420156
Nigger I AM a programmer. A programmer is an advanced toolmaker. A good programmer does not make a fun game and every programmer knows this.
>>332420302
Nigga if that's true, you KNOW how valuable a toolmaker is to a game designer for lots of other purposes than engine programming.
Don't make me come through the screen and piss this out in the snow for you.
>>332420427
This is true
Just look
>W3 custom games scene with W3 built in editor
>Hundreds of thousands of games
>Dota 2 custom game scene with Hammer
>Like 10 games
>they are all shit
>>332420182
Just read this. It outlines her work in gaming pretty good. I don't think she's a hack that got her break into gaming through John. Unlike Stevie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Romero#Career
>>332420427
At the end of the day, in 2016, a talented game designer has all of the tools they need already created for them. Engines, art tools, hell even DAWs are either free or cost a couple of hundred bucks.
Obviously a good programmer can make unique and useful custom tools. But it's not NECESSARY, is my point, because so much is already created and ready to use.
I will concede two things, and that is physics and AI. But as far as graphics engines or like 99% of tools go? That shit's already out there, man.
>>332417429
Gas prices have fallen so low, that they had to let him go.
>>332419162
Whatever helps you sleep at night fag
>>332420858
Dude. I think you're seriously underselling yourself as a programmer if you believe that.
And I say that as a graphics/design guy with very little programming skills.
>>332421025
Just look at Team Meat. Ed McMillen has made four games since Super Meat Boy. FOUR. Tommy Refenes has made exactly zero. Because Ed is the game designer and when he needs somebody to program something for him, he can just go out and find another programmer if Tommy is busy.
I mean, I make good money. I work for a Fortune 500 company and I am good at what I do. But when it comes to making games, some guy with a great, interesting idea can fire up Game Maker and create Undertale, and he sure as hell doesn't need me to help him make that. I'm not selling myself short, I'm just saying I'm not necessary anymore to make great games.
When the fuck did he move to Ireland
![vl1Gv[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KDdv8gJ.jpg "vl1Gv[1].jpg")
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>>332421426
>I work for a Fortune 500 company
huh, turns out this was a lie. It's in the top 50 largest companies in the world, but it didn't make the Fortune 500 list.
Also, Walmart made the list, so I could be a cashier at Walmart and say I work for a Fortune 500 company so this means literally nothing.
Oh well.
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>>332416679
AND THE CROWD GOESmILD!
>>332420695
>from playboy models
>to playboy dev
Ok I can admit when I was wrong, she's earned her laurels on her own. I honestly didn't know that. Kudos, Brenda!
>>332418045
Romero lost interest because they wanted to make DOOM 3D edition, he wanted to make something new
>>332422068
Doom was already 3D, irregardless if it was fake 3d and carmack wizardry
>>332421841
Why are his locks so luxurious?
>>332421841
the shadow on his left arm is kinda off
>>332421841
wait, that's a shoop, right?
He looks a lot taller in that 90's ID picture
>>332421841
who is this man and how is he able to look straight into my soul
>>332422243
>irregardless
>Ireland
He moved out of America? huh
>>332422310
yea its a shop but he is still the shortest person in the unedited version
Has anyone else bought masters of doom?
>>332422452
You just have to deal with my retarded english, I get a pass from not being a native english speaker
That's the rules I'm sorry Anon good luck next time kiddo
>>332422535
When I met Romero I was surprised by how short he was. I'm 5'11" and he's a lot smaller than me. Felt kinda good, til I remembered he is a literal legend and I could die tomorrow and like five people would care.
>>332418818
It probably sounds really complicated to the person who created this image.
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>>332416679
yes. I am blushing actually.
>>332416679
JOHN ROMERO'S ABOUT TO MAKE YOU HIS BITCH
>>332422601
>masters of doom
One of my favorite books, ever. It's so inspiring reading about how a couple of guys in their early 20s made fucking history just by being THAT much better than everybody else.
I sometimes wish I had been born ten years earlier. I remember the rise of PCs and the internet but I was too young to really appreciate it.
>>332422659
No, that's not how it works you dolt.
t. non-native english speaker who never had to pull this retarded excuse
>>332416709
0/10 not subtle enough
>>332423032
Sorry kid I don't make the rules it's just how it be go read the rulebook and come back next time
>>332422249
Read his haircare tips in the picture
>>332423032
*English
>>332422068
Romero got kicked out of the studio because he was helping making Hexen a good fucking game when Carmack were demanding Romero to work 200% on Doom 2 instead of doing both. Romero was asked to leave or get fired.
>>332422697
>I could die tomorrow and like five people would care.
Slow down there Mr. Popular
>>332421426
Jesús fuck don't remind me of the mess that's undertales code.
I remember reading a switch that had over 360 different checks, looked like something straight out of India
Ok so I assume most of you have read Masters of Doom. Show of hands, who do you think was right? Carmack or Romero? They both simultaneously failed and succeeded, so who was right?
>>332424380
Toby's a musician, not a programmer. Does that make his game any less fun?
>>332424438
>who was right
Right about what?
>>332424543
The game's shit though.
>>332424706
>game sold more than Risk of Rain in a half year
Yeah buddy, no.
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>>332421426
why not just be accurate and say which company you work for then? i mean i'm not an expert at anything, but this was kind of stupid of you.
>>332424907
just because it's popular it doesn't mean it's good.
or are you going to tell me cod and battlefield get more revolutionary and fun each year?
>>332424925
>why not just be accurate and say which company you work for then?
I was thinking it might be followed back to me but honestly that fear is kinda stupid because of how HUGE the company is. I work for GDF Suez.
>>332424907
>muh sales
It's shit.
>>332425145
>international corporation
>literally thousands of employees
>across a dozen countries
>worried about some anon post being followed back to you
Are you retarded? Like, honestly?
>>332425145
HAHA, IS THAT YOU TOM?
DUDE I'M TELLING RICHARD, YOU'RE FUCKED NOW.
>>332424438
Quake 2 and 3 left a far greater legacy than anything Romero ever worked on after he left id so I guess Carmack won out in the end.
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>>332425226
>hur durr game isn't good
do you seriously want to argue about opinions? You might not enjoy it, but loads of people did. It's a good game, Christ. Toby sucks at programming, he's good at music. The point is, you don't have to be good at programming to make a good game.
If you still don't believe me, what about Binding of Isaac? Written in fucking AS2. AS TWO! And it was a brilliant game.
When has a "spiritual successor" ever been a worthy successor, let alone good?
>>332425602
>Quake 2 and 3 left a far greater legacy than anything Romero ever worked on after he left id
Nobody ever mentions Quake 2 or 3. People are STILL memeing about Daikatana.
>>332425767
Bioshock.
>>332416679
Is he going to make us his bitches again? Cuz last time he tried, he really just humiliated himself.
>>332425783
>nobody ever mentions quake 2 or 3
The fuck are you talking about, people still PLAY quake 3 and thousands of people go to QuakeCon every year. There's a Quake Live tournament there too. Pretty sure that beats out some weak meme.
>>332425872
I'm not sure why I even asked /v/, all I'm going to get is trolling.
>>332425602
Unreal ws better than Quake 2.
>>332426006
>Is he going to make us his bitches again
But that was Mike Wilson, not John.
>>332419104
>SUCK IT DOWN
>>332416679
I wish Raven would make a Hexen 3
>>332426547
I wish Raven would make a proper FPS Heretic 3.
There aren't enough fantasy FPS games.
>>332426135
>QuakeCon
Dude just because there's a couple of thousand fat Texan neckbeards that still go to QuakeCon doesn't mean the rest of the world still gives a shit about Quake. Valve and Unreal won the online shooter game years ago with UT and TF2.
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>>332422703
If you think "throughput" "ambi-famulated" and "unilateral buffer" are perfectly clear expressions, you studied in that specific field
>>332426908
>Valve and Unreal
I meant Valve and Epic. Goddammit.
>>332426951
I didn't study computer graphics, but I can still guess from the context what he was talking about.
>>332427085
You can't understand "tremie pipeline" just thanks to the context
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>>332425268
>>332425486
PROMOTIONS
PRRROOOOMOTIONS
>>332427362
Yes you can. I know what a pipeline is. I know what putting stuff through a pipeline is. I know that a pipe can only handle so much shit. He's saying the graphics pipeline can't handle enough shit on mobile devices. How is that hard to understand?
>>332425783
Perhaps, but not in a way that was intentional. People still remember Daikatana over Quake sequels in the same sense that you would remember a day in which you were beaten savagely and then had all your money stolen in a way that you wouldn't remember a day where you just spent a boring day at your job.
>>332416679
Will he make me his bitch again?
>>332427882
gonna need a sauce on this one, anon
>>332427676
So you didn't understand my post focused on "tremie", and you're admitting you "understood" what he was saying by just ignoring the complicated words (which you call "guessing from the context").
Since you're basically saying Carmack's speech is just full of a lot of unecessarily vague expressions, I'm glad you're agreeing with me on that
>>332428039
It's tranny porn.
>>332426813
I would be happy with either, honestly. I remember last year they had this on their twitter and got all excited before I realized the date.
https://twitter.com/RavenSoftware/status/583276361642602496
>>332428039
looks like stoya, shes the one who takes full trains in the ass then cries rape.
>>332428173
EVEN BETTER
>>332428039
Stoya.
>>332428095
Carmack is using a lot of big words to say something very simple. He is notorious for doing that. Just because I don't understand every word he says doesn't mean I can't grasp the meaning of what he's saying from the context.
>>332428242
>she
>>332427882
>Will he make me his bitch again?
>again
>implying you ever stopped being his bitch.
>>332428532
your thinking of a different meme buddy.
Aw yeah nigga.
Will my buddy Superfly be in it?
>>332428328
Expanding on this, it really annoys me when "smart people" do this. They pretend like what they're talking about are these bizarre, abstract concepts that nobody other than geniuses could possibly understand. Like, I get people like Carmack don't do it intentionally, they're just trying to be precise and that makes them sound like robots, but it still bothers me. Programming is hard in detail, yes, but the concepts themselves are not and can easily be understood by laymen. We need more people like Neil Tyson to dispel these myths that science / programming / whatever are for geniuses only.
>>332429082
>people like Carmack don't do it intentionally
Actually he does - he's just pretentious like that.
>>332416679
>Daikatana 2 is real
>Ends up being better than the new Doom
>A meteor hits earth and we all die
>>332429331
It doesn't take much to be better than D44M.
>>332428039
Stoya
>>332429437
Daam?
>>332429082
This is actually bullshit. Richard Feynman actually talked about this. Sometimes you have to understand the intuitive process of something and not just shitty metaphors you get from people like Tyson because it leaves you with this idea that you "understand" something, when in actuality, you incorrectly are misrepresenting something in your mind because you are trying to understand it in greater terms than what it is composed of, something fundamental.
Not only that, but some things are not "simple" and "easy" to explain. For example, on a high level Shor's Algorithm "finds prime fast by exploiting quantum mechanics," but you don't know jack shit about it after that sentence and any deeper explanation requires me to speak in terms that may not be easy to understand for the laymen.
>>332416679
Did I miss is play through of Daikatana? I was ready to watch him be made a bitch
>>332422397
It's Thanatos. Basically if you look at his picture in the eyes, you're calling for him.
>>332429707
I don't disagree. But to obfuscate simple ideas through choice of language is the best way to chase normal people away from science, math and programming, and that is BAD.
>>332429082
this
>>332429707
This is right. If you ever did something at least a tiny bit complex you can't just explain it by trivializing it, because it's nowhere like that.
Neil Degrasse explains pretty mundane things if compared to actual applied knowledge.
>>332429759
There hasn't been a stream yet.
Oh boy I can't wait to play the game he's been working on for decades for the Nintendo GameCube!
>>332427085
>You can still guess from context what he's talking about
That's amazing considering the person who made that image made up words and none of those things actually exist.
>>332423092
I really dont know and im 18
>>332429982
I agree. I think papers should have to pass a Hemingway Editor.
>>332430258
how do you not know how to use Google Search at the age of 18?
>>332430141
Here is my thought process:
>throughput of the primary graphics tremie pipeline isn't sufficient
Oh! I know what a pipeline is. Throughput must mean putting stuff through it! So you can't put enough stuff through the graphics pipeline!
>to maintain both an ambi-famulated video stream from the camera
Oh so the camera takes a lot of resources, I can understand that!
>and the associated overhead from the unilateral buffer used for shaders
Oh so there's more overhead with more graphics stuff and that's clogging up the pipeline! So that must mean that using the camera and displaying graphics for AR doesn't work because it's too resource intensive!
It doesn't matter if none of those words exist, in context it still makes sense.
>>332430540
>Using google
Pleb,at elast use duck duck and cover
>>332430258
There you go, this guy reviews a lot of old FPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOJpXffyR5k
>>332430438
>Hemingway Editor
I had no idea this existed. This is amazing! Thank you anon!
>FPS
>Daikatana
What are you stupid?
>>332430635
>muh NSA
Let them know I browse leather shops and watch futa, I don't care.
>>332430576
It does matter, because knowing those words don't exist IS THE JOKE RETARD.
>>332426209
I'll give Unreal props because it was a lot prettier, but Q2 was a lot more fun to play
>>332431036
It's a really bad joke, though.
>>332418093
but the sound guy totally designed the entire game
>>332419752
Oh my fuck I forgot
Fuck you anon
>>332431235
Tom Hall was the sound guy? Litterally the Pete Best of ID.
>>332416679
Is he going to indirectly cause the shutdown of another great studio this time?
Because I haven't gotten over the last one.
>>332429082
You just fall out of the habit of putting things in simpler terms when you start wanting to be specific more often, and when your confidence in talking about it increases. It's kinda annoying becuase you'll talk like that when it's more productive to say the simple version too.
In my wet dreams Romero takes Ion Storm Austin's best designers and just makes a by the book FPS with them.
But it won't happen and it will probably be a shitshow.
>>332425602
Don't know how someone can say Quake 2 or 3 left a greater legacy than Doom and Quake with a straight face. And they're much worse games compared to Quake 1, both singleplayer and multiplayer, which all have worse single player than Doom.
>>332433170
>And they're much worse games compared to Quake 1, both singleplayer and multiplayer
>>332416679
thought he was a faggot sjw cuck now
>>332416679
literally
who
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>>332433845
samefag
>>332433553
>being this much of a pleb
Yeah, no air-strafe while also adding railgun sure were great changes to the games multiplayer, totally didn't turn it into a railwhoring competition. Just watch CA premade matches to see how awful those two addition to the game are, and watch QW TDM to see how good it is not to have those two things. Ruining the great aesthetic 1 had with strogg shit was a great decision as well. Enemy design in 2 was shit, needed more projectile based ones.
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>>332434968
Don't ever fucking reply to me again.
>>332416679
Will Carmack be involved? What about Tom Hall? Their genius is needed for quality assurance.
>>332430723
>They named a character after a city
>>332418045
Maybe instead of calling themselves "Id" they should have called themselves "Ego"; a cancerous word found in Duke Nukem Forever.
>>332435390
Tom Hall might be involved. Unlike Carmack Romero and Hall didn't part ways.
