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>owns consoles >refuses to play 30fps games on them, watches
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>owns consoles
>refuses to play 30fps games on them, watches LPs of said games on youtube instead
>mfw this retard will die soon and miss out on several 8+/10 games because of some "dude master race lmao" meme

What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
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>>321476837
he has a mental disorder that prevents him from having fun. probably autism.
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Does le PC master race turn everyone into a cynical cunt?

If so I don't want anything to do with it
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>>321477153

no, being british does that to you.
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>>321476998
Like everyone here familia
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>>321476998
Ah, so /v/ fturned into a person?
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the cancer that is poor framerates finally did him in
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>>321477153
Yes notice how all le tired gamers are always PC fags
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>>321476837
>what the fuck is wrong with him?

He's got terminal cancer
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>always talks about how 60FPS should be standard
>he is capped at 30
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I can only pray that I don't turn into a bitter cunt that can no longer enjoy video games when I get older. This man seems to be that of an idiot.
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Wonder what game he's playing.
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>>321476837

>Bloodbourne
>Even 8/10

Keep dreaming
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>>321476837
You can say what you will, but it's pretty much a fact that consoles are mostly played by inferior people. Poor people, stupid people, etc. and the fact that console games are usually so dull, i.e. in many cases third person perspective action games that don't require a lot of reasonable thought, only proves that.

PC is the platform of choice for superior people.
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>>321477472
holy fuck
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>>321477546
>le master race lmao
>Look at this rock texture guys
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I watched a bloodborne lp too.
If the game ran at 60 i would have considered buying a piss4, i bought a wii u when for dat bayo combo because it actually runs at a kinda decent framerate.
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>>321477472
FUCK
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>>321477546
Go back to reddit
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>>321477472
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>>321477664
>>321477819
The sentiments of subhumans such as yourselves are not of relevance here. I'm right in every regard.
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>talks about 60FPS
>youtube videos shot and played back at 24FPS
>broadcasts streams at 30FPS
>Blizzard fanboy that wouldn't know good performance if it gave him cancer
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>>321477546
I agree with this. I've spent almost 3 grand on my rig, have multiple monitors, and an awesome command station. Gaming is an experience to me. I also own a PS4, mainly for Bloodborne. But if I had a choice I would play anything on PC over console any day.
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>>321477472
oh my fuck
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>>321477546
E U P H O R I A

tip'd
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>>321477472
Here have another upvote for your stolen joke.
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>>321477472
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It's funny because if this chucklefuck got his way and all console games went 60FPS, then the gameplay and/or graphics would suffer which would also effect the PC ports and then he'd be bitching about that.
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>>321477472
This joke is repeated in every Totalbiscuit thread, and somehow it's always worded more clumsily.
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>>321477153
When you have a taste of some good food you no longer want to go back to eating cow shit, anon.
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>>321478084
>I also own a PS4, mainly for Bloodborne.
Is Bloodborne even worth playing? To me it looked rather disappointing in comparison with Dark Souls (silly weapons, no cool armour, etc.). In general, there seems nothing to play on PS4.
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>>321478205
>more food analogies
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>>321478024
*tips*

Agreed my fellow chap! Tell me, what other subreddits do you enjoy browsing? I enjoy /r/cuckhold personally.
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>>321478184
explain how the gameplay would suffer ?
who the fuck cares about graphix ? are you here to watch the game or play it ?
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I guess when your platform no longer get games you have to begin convincing yourself you wouldn't enjoy them anyway.

People use the 30fps argument in a way where they are actually proud they can no longer enjoy video games, it's really mind boggling.

They literally care more about performance than the software itself. I mean when a time comes when that happens you really have to ask yourself and try to pin point the moment you became an elitist from someone who just likes video games and realize is was an incredibly short-sighted and moronic decision that works to your own disadvantage.
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>>321478190
Its because it's fucking funny. How would you have worded it?
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>>321478205

>another eating shit analogy

Typical /v/.
Also most "master race" people only play shit like Dota and csgo for 5000 hours, don't tell me those are "superior" games.
Also TB loves hearthstone which is shit.
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>>321478278
>Is Bloodborne even worth playing?

It's great, even more with the DLC
>(silly weapons, no cool armour, etc.)
lolwut
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>>321477472
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>>321478285
I think console peasants would be much more at home on reddit, since they can create their safe spaces there. On /v/ there is no such thing, you get confronted with your racial inferiority day by day.
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>>321478278
It's ok. I like LoveCraft so it fits with me, but the game play is an improvement over DS2 and much faster paced. It's easier but more rewarding. If you don't dig the art style, don't play it.
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>>321476837
He won't

why do you all wish him dead anyway? just because he thinks differently than you? just because his opinion of quality isn't yours

People that "lel TB will die soon" are far worst than they believe TB himself to be

you know TB got a huge slap in the face when karma came back to haunt him for telling that one guy on twitter to die I wonder what will happen to most of /v/
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>>321477472
whooooooaaaa

be honest with me family, how long did it took you to make this one?
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>>321478416
The only thing I liked about Dark Souls was that it took inspiration from history. It also had its fair share of silliness and certainly does not accurately represent historical combat, but in terms of looks is has some nice things. Bloodborne doesn't seem to have that.
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>>321478321

>explain how the gameplay would suffer ?

Less on screen enemies/players
Smaller areas/maps
Lower draw distances

>who the fuck cares about graphix ?

PC.ucks like TotalCancer.
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>>321478278
It's a great game, has beautiful detailed environments and fast paced gameplay. The only problem is loading times and frame pacing but that's really it. People that haven't played it love to shit on it for ridiculous reasons but with the old hunters it makes it a legit reason to buy a PS4.
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most people that experience gaming on a good pc dont want to then have inferior gaming experiences

just because you always only played on a console doesnt mean everyones standards are piss poor like yours
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>>321477472
He wasn't shot, dude
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>>321478082
Underrated post.

Wow that guy is dumb.
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>>321478429
>racial inferiority

Dude, please don't stop. You're a riot.
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>>321477546
It is a scientific fact that console peasants have a distinct stench all over their crotch from resting their controllers on their, otherwise unused, genitals. These noxious fumes cause severe mental retardation, forcing them to buy more consoles.
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"Oi! What's THIS m8?

Fokken' hell! 1024×768 ?? What's this shite, a PS1??!

I REFUSE to play on such a shite resolution, aight?

Too bad, ya kno? This seems to be such a good experience, but I'd rather read 'bout on IRC, aight?

Fukken'Ell"
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>>321476837
>What the fuck is wrong with this guy?

cancer i heard.
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>>321478464
Console peasants are simple minded people. They are composed of the dregs of society and thus write retarded things all day. You can pity them for their intellectual inferiority but you can't really blame them since they are never truly adult in mind. They're not to be treated and held by the same standards as full human beings.
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>>321478705
You went from trying to type with a british accent to typing like a nigger. Are all consolewarriors this absolutely retarded?
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>>321478582
Buying a dust collector for a singular game doesn't really seem worth it.
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>>321478582
>everday
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This guy is responsible for influencing idiots who cant think for themselves and created all those threads a while back bitching about FPS.

60 FPS is not always good for a game. Makes TLOU look more plastic and not as cinematic. 30 FPS gives a specific grittiness to games.
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>>321478873
Then don't
Chances are that people who bought a PS4 were interested in other games on the system as well.
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>>321478665
All I've said is true. Console peasants are inferior beings and your own replies prove me right.
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>>321479023
I sure would love to play cs with 30 fps
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>>321479034
>PS4
>other games
There are other games on PS4?
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>>321479146
Yes even with your epin memes there are still other games on ps4
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>>321478873
It's not a dust collector if you actually play video games instead of shitposting on /v/ all day.
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>>321479023
Spoken like a true subhuman retard. 30FPS is NEVER good for a game.
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PC gamers are a cancer to this website and videogames in general.

PC gamers on here started GooberGate, PC gamers on here ruined any and all discussion about Bloodborne (which is weird since it will never ever make an appearance on PC), PC gamers ruin all discussion about Driveclub, PC gamers ruined the Dark Souls threads forever, PC gamers ruined Dragons Dogma threads forever.... the list goes on and on.

It's absolutely pathetic that they're still allowed to post here about MOBAs and Undertale and other popular PC games without being ridiculed mercilessly.

Containment board when?
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>>321479042
All youve proved is that youre a pathetic creature who hobestly believe the PC master race shit.

When was the last time you were outside?

>j-just earlier today
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>tfw own a 4k 2440p Gaming PC with 3 Titan XXX Dragon graphics cards in my rig

I literally have no idea how people play at 60fps anymore, it is literally unbearable, only those living in poverty who build inferior low-class rigs bought with their mothers money will accept such shit performance.

Seriously, if you enjoy 60FPS games you are a fucking pleb beyond belief. 120fps is now industry standard and if you can't afford it or don't have enough rational sense to buy proper hardware and not bargain bin walmart-tier levels of hardware you are a fucking pathetic faggot.

Realize this. You enjoy inferior performance because you are a poor faggot who can't into 4KHD Ultra 120FPS gaming.

YOU LITERALLY HOLD BACK THE FUCKING GAMING INDUSTRY WITH SHIT HARDWARE.

How do you not understand this? I am utterly ashamed to share the title of Masterrace with 60fps fucking cancerous plebians.
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How much you want to bet that TB is in this thread and the one calling people subhumans?
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I really don't get why anyone would not play a game just cause it only runs at 30 fps, you don't see a difference between 30 and 60 anyway
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>>321477472
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>>321479285
if there was separate /v/ boards for pc and consoler users thatd be amazing, please make it happen
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>>321478380
>how would you have worded it

Whats the difference between an optimized pc game and totalbiscuit?
Only one gets to 60

What does totalbiscuit and a console game have in common?
They both stop a 30

Totalbiscuit was playing a bad console port and the image starts stuttering terribly.
One of his viewers goes "aw man thats never going to make it to 30"
Another replies "that's ok, neither is he"
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>>321479023
>30 FPS gives a specific grittiness to games.
What you perceive as "grittiness" is simply lag and temporal aliasing. This is nothing you want in a video game, and you don't want it in a movie either.
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>>321476837
Who the fuck is this

Fuck off back to reddit with these faggots, I hope whoever this is gets cancer and dies
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>>321479289
>hobestly
you tried
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>>321479465
lol you don't even know what lag is
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>>321479285
A PC containment board is long overdue.
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>>321479520
B and N are right next to each other, it's an honest mistake.

Also

>correcting grammar

>>>reddit
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>>321479289
>hobestly
You're so mad that you can't even type properly any more?

I think you should calm down a little and come to terms with your own shortcomings rather than trying to haplessly lash out at your betters, boy.
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>>321477472
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>>321479146
>post list
"look at all those games that haven't come out yet. Even if they are only months away, doesn't count"

>post list of current games
"Lol, look at all that shit"

>post list which includes multiplats
"Also on PC* Also on PS3* Also on Vita* none of those count because I say so"

>greentext good examples of a few handpicked games
"Almost all weebshit, clearly western devs are doing the right job nowadays. All shit! Not to mention I have 100% COMFIRMATION they will alll be ported to PC in a timely manner, might as well not count them as PS4 games either. Is this really your best?"
>Do anything
"Lol, have fun with your bloodblunder machine"
Why would I even try, PCuck?
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>>321479630
There are all types of lag. Input lag for example due to lacking immediate feedback caused by low FPS.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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I enjoy both consoles and PC

I also enjoy 30 and 60fps
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>>321479648
>not knowing grammar

>>>reddit
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>>321476837
When i started fuckign your sister your mom just wasn't worth the hassle. And she still smell like your papa's nigger dick.
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>>321479635
>MUH SAFE SPACE
I think you're better off on tumblr. There you can block the mean PC gamers from confronting you with their nasty facts.
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>>321479656
>he made a simple spelling mistake
>crucify him!!!

Typical reddit/PC master race mentality. Can't think of an argument so pick out small meaningless things and turn them into the main focus.
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>>321479751
nope, you're the one that has no clue
there is no input lag because of 30 fps
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>>321479763
Really though if you're not autistic you can adjust to low frame rates rather quickly
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>>321476837
>8+/10 games
>on 30fps
now that's a laugh
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>>321479719
So you're basically admitting that you only have one game.
That's just sad anon.
Screecapping for posterity
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>>321479648
Spelling is not grammar but orthography you subhuman piece of shit. Get the fuck out and kill yourself. You clearly don't belong in here. You truly embody the spirit of console gaming: mediocrity in any regard, revelling in ones own inferiority and never striving for the greater. Seriously, do the world a favour and kill yourself.
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Just out of curiosity, why does /v/ hate this guy so much?
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But why do you all pretend to care about other people's consoles? I mean it's not funny, it's not a creative way of shit flinging, why do you all continue doing it?
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>>321480003
You first.
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serious question, how much time left he has?
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>>321479719
If you're already aware of the shortcomings of your own platform why even try to argue?
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>>321480012
it makes more sense to hate than like.

Hate makes likers defensive/offended, and gets a positive response from other haters. Likers get pretty weak reception comparatively.
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>>321480096
Why argue against meme spouting retards
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>>321479936
You are mentally handicapped since I mentioned bloodborne and posted a gif of N++

That's already 2 games

But sure, let's test my theory
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>>321479873
Of course there is you subhuman retard. In the vast majority of implementations input is processed at the same rate as rendering. Not to mention that even if it not, you're still not given immediate feedback.

Try playing an FPS or a fighting game at less than 60fps and see how well you do against someone who does.

As I said earlier: you don't know shit about what you're talking about.
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>>321480187
What?
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>>321476837

Why would you even bother making so much shit up?
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>>321480012
It's just one or two obsessed console peasants who got butthurt due to him confronting them with the factual inferiority of their platforms of choice who keep making threads about him. Most of /v/ does not care or agrees with him.
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>>321478715
Responsible adults don't play video games. Try to juggle a social life, work and raising a family with masterrace fuckery, it can't be done.
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What happened to him? I've been out of the loop for a while doing normal people stuff.
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>>321480012
Because saying mean things about severy ill people makes /v/ feel edgy and cool and rebelious and so dark and cynical. I can guarantee you that at least 30% of this board is subscribed to him on youtube
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>>321480286
makes more sense to get someone upset than to acknowledge, if youre trying to get attention.

thats why v hates everything
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>>321480391
why did you come back ?
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>>321480258
then by that logic 60 fps has input lag too because you can have more than 60 fps
therefore 60 fps is only for plebs
fucking idiot
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>>321480387
>Responsible adults don't play video games. Try to juggle a social life, work and raising a family with masterrace fuckery, it can't be done.
I'm an engineer and I manage to do just fine.
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It is completely fine to not want to play games in 30 fps. Being so fucking autistic you watch games you dont want to play? Thats a new.
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>>321480012
He was a dick.
He shit on his fans, he thought he was some big fucking shot in the industry and that anything he promoted became gold.

He was such an egotistical asshole that he put up a 30 minute self masturbatory video about how it was entirely HIS idea that From Software make a PC port of Dark Souls and if he had not told his mindless fanbase to do what he said then it would have definitely not happened.

That was the peak. He took that video down minutes after releasing it because he finally saw what he was.
Then he got cancer and was treated for it.

From there he "mellowed out" but tried to turn into some sort of messiah of PC gaming, setting up commandments and rules a "good" game has to follow.

Everything was going great, he was on top of the world and nobody could tell him anything because "of that cancer thing he had once"

now its back and going to kill him for real, sadly to say.

Cant say he deserved it but if you make yourself Jesus you're gonna get crucified.
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>>321480391
he has terminal cancer.
literally.
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>>321479445
i don't know anon, "capped at 30" is way funnier than those
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>>321480506
>then by that logic 60 fps has input lag too because you can have more than 60 fps
Yes, it does. But what we're talking about is something that has a quantitative dimension. 60fps has LESS input lag than 30fps. Ideally you want as many fps as possible of course, however, for most games 60fps is already quite okay. The faster paced the game the more fps you want. A turn-based game obviously is perfectly fine at 30fps; it's still not as nice to look at, but it's not going to hurt the actual gameplay.
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>30 fps is OK
>60 fps isn't needed nor wanted

I want holiday children to leave
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>>321480539
I don't recall him using his diagnosis as a card against contradicting opinions. As for the Dark Souls video, I guess I never saw it as a result of him taking it down. Yeah, he seems arrogant, but his reviews/other videos are more informative than the norm and he's usually right. I hardly see how that justifies wishing death on him.
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>>321481105
he never used it,
but you couldn't get a word in edgewise to his fans because "he had cancer, dude, dont make fun of him"

its happening right here in this very thread.
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>>321481253
So you dislike him because you dislike his fans?
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>>321481105
Exaggeration is the rule of the website: someone makes a typo? You call him a retard. Opinion you don't agree with? Wtf faggot get cancer i fugged ur mum. Person you don't like on youtube? Lol ur gonna die soon xD
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>>321481306
a completely reasonable thing, when talking about a person who gives opinions as his job.
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>>321478404
Not that poster, but he's right.
I'm waiting for Dragon's Dogma to come out in January even though I have a Ps3 on my desk and a ps4 in the other room being used to stream movies for the family's toddlers. I just never thought about playing it until a buddy of mine told me about the gameplay. I could go out tomorrow and get a copy on console, but I'm patient and I'll play it on the superior system. In the mean time I'm just enjoying Christmas and doing some gamedev work for some amateur buddies for discount cost to help them out and not having shit taste in games on inferior systems even if I own them because I got more money than I know what to do with.
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>>321480762
>however, for most games 60fps is already quite okay
so is 30
the difference can't be seen by the human eye anyway
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>>321479231
All jokes aside, this
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I own a 4k 2440p gaming PC that runs all games at max settings at 140fps.

I actually have no idea how people play at 60fps anymore, I literally cannot enjoy games that run at 60fps without getting motion sickness. It's completely cinematic and it is mind boggling which someone would settle for such low standards.

How do people no realize they are literally holding back the gaming industry and preventing it from evolving into a higher standard for my personal enjoyment?


Not a single PC cuck will reply to this post because it is the epitome of how stupid and hypocritical their performance meme argument actually is.
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>>321476837
I play primarily on PC but I've never really been all that fussy about framerates, I can see feel the difference between 30 and 60, but it's noticeable for like 5 minutes and then I forget.
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>>321481750
>le epic can't be seen meme
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>>321482104
I can easily reply to you due to the qualitative argument: made in >>321480762.

The idea that there was a linear scale in the sense that 120fps was "twice as good" as 60fps is factually wrong.

It takes a certain amount of fps to be playable properly. 30fps is in most cases simply not enough, it doesn't offer a fluid playing and viewing experience, while the difference between 60 and 120fps isn't as great, let alone the difference between 120 and 144.

However, for certain games, e.g. Counter-Strike or Quake, you'll certainly want 120fps rather than 60fps.

Also, it should be considered: a PC that can run most games at 60fps is easily affordable, so why play on an inferior platform?
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>>321482431
I say you should try playing Counter-Strike or Quake online and cap the frames at 30 and see how well you do.
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>>321482741
>inferior platform
Because the players are better on console.
Try playing Street Fighter or Guilty Gear on PC, pCucks are ass at vidya
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>>321482741
>30fps is in most cases simply not enough, it doesn't offer a fluid playing and viewing experience

It has for over 3 decades and will continue giving players and enjoyable gaming experiences.

>so why play on an inferior platform?
Exactly, why play with inferior hardware when you can spend $5000 for 180fps. 60fps players like you are literaly holding back the gaming industry with cinematic outdated frame rates.
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>>321483053
>Because the players are better on console.
http://gizmodo.com/5593116/were-pc-gamers-too-good-for-microsofts-cross-platform-gaming-project

Console gamers are casuals, that's why they play on consoles. PC gamers take their gaming seriously.
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>>321483098
>It has for over 3 decades and will continue giving players and enjoyable gaming experiences.
Wrong.

On the PC people have always been playing games at higher fps rates. Especially back in the days of CRTs.

On consoles, I'm not too certain how older console games ran, but back then console games were mostly exclusive so their was no competition. Nowadays there is though, most console games are also playable on the PC, and in that regard they can be compared in terms of quality. And factually, games usually run better on PC.
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>>321483225
360>PS3>PS4>PC
In terms of skill in street fighter

Seriously boot up sf4 on your 360, all the top players are there while PC has less skilled players than the fucking PS4 version
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>>321483098
>Exactly, why play with inferior hardware when you can spend $5000 for 180fps. 60fps players like you are literaly holding back the gaming industry with cinematic outdated frame rates.
Refer to >>321482741 and get told.
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>>321483421
I'm certain you have some objective measurement of that rather than your subjective experience. Point is: most cross platform experiments were abandoned because console gamers were too bad, and usually in terms of objective comparisons PC gamers do a much better job. It's natural too, because building and maintaining a PC takes more effort, in that regard PC gamers are more likely to take their gaming seriously while console gamers are casuals. In terms of Street Fighter I can't tell, because I don't play such games, but I'd be surprised if there were better players on consoles, simply due to the casual audience. In terms of games like strategy or FPS games however, it is factually proven that PC gamers are better.
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>Always thought the cancer thing was a little bit funny
>Almost die from an allergic reaction to medication yesterday night
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>>321483816
>factually proven
Lol no, there are no PC players at the top in the FGC

Top players are 360/PS3/arcade

PC gamers are just bad at video games because they're used to playing casual shit like LoL/Dota/Hearthstone/CSGO
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>>321483404
> And factually, games usually run better on PC.

Wrong.

Now what your positing about about Fallout 4, The Witcher 3 etc, is all relative - your experience is going to either be better or worse depending on how powerful your PC is and that is directly dependent on how much money you spend on it. However, because you are comparing it against the PS4 which is $300 (this also includes SOME free game), you simply have to ask yourself if I spent exactly $300 on a PC would I get the same performance as I would on a PS4 - the answer is - fuck no. Because games are well optimized on PS4 versus a PC because developers are trying to hit a moving target, it's that simple.

The fact is, you enjoy running games on beyond dog shit povety hardware if you actually enjoy 60fps. 60fps is literal cinematic console tier performance.
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This is what you get for fucking with Based Sony. 60fps is a fucking meme and gives you cancer.
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>terminal cancer

I wouldn't wish that on anyone, not even my worst enemy.
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>>321479763
How can you manage playing at 30? It honestly hurts my eyes
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>>321484650
>your experience is going to either be better or worse depending on how powerful your PC is and that is directly dependent on how much money you spend on it.
You can get a PC which runs the game better than a console reasonably cheap nowadays.

>PS4 which is $300 (this also includes SOME free game)
Which includes monthly subscription fees and generally more expensive games.

>if I spent exactly $300 on a PC would I get the same performance as I would on a PS4 - the answer is - fuck no. Because games are well optimized on PS4 versus a PC because developers are trying to hit a moving target, it's that simple.
That is the same way a poor person looks at a mobile contract that gets him an Iphone cheaply. Consoles bait you with a low entry cost, but they're more expensive in the long run - not to mention that they're already outdated technologically. You can't even buy a PC any more that performs as poorly as a console unless you look on E-Bay. When it comes to optimisation you're factually wrong. Games run as badly as dipping below 30fps. Games generally target 30fps. This is not well optimised, it is utter garbage.

Consoles look cheap at first, but they give you a worse experience while not being all that cheaper in the long run. They're a product to fool the gullible and short-sighted.
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>>321476837
>What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
Cancer
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>>321485495
>not to mention that they're already outdated technologically

So is your rig that pumped out dog shit tier 60fps performance. In fact 2 seconds after you built your rig it was out dated.

Online is not a mandatory cost, all the good game its getting are in fact single player games/rpgs.

While you shop at gza to ultimately rent app.db licenses, we too can shop at internaitonal retailers for dirt cheap games and end up wich physical tangible goods that we can re-sell ater 2 hours of gameplay.

The bottom line here is, you shit on consoles performance and someone with better hardware will shit ontop of yours. The only difference is consoles gets games at the end of the day and PC doesn't.

Consoles are a prudct for those who enjoy games. PC is for those who care about performance over software. Objectively true.
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>>321477472
I love these threads.
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>>321485963
>So is your rig that pumped out dog shit tier 60fps performance. In fact 2 seconds after you built your rig it was out dated.
Again, this is not a binary discrete issue but a qualitative issue. While outdated, you still a better experience.

>Online is not a mandatory cost, all the good game its getting are in fact single player games/rpgs.
And you don't have access to almost any type of service, patches, dlc, etc. The point is: on the PC you have online for free, so no matter how you spin it, you have a better deal here.

>While you shop at gza to ultimately rent app.db licenses, we too can shop at internaitonal retailers for dirt cheap games and end up wich physical tangible goods that we can re-sell ater 2 hours of gameplay.
Which takes a lot of effort, is undermined by region locks, content tied to accounts, etc. - PC games are generally cheaper, which is a fact due to a lack of manufacturer fees.

>someone with better hardware will shit ontop of yours
The difference is that there is an optimal deal you can make. While you can buy better hardware at a much higher price, you're not going to get that much improvement out of it. As I said earlier: the difference between 60 and 120 fps is smaller than the difference between 30 and 60 fps, since this does not scale linearly.

>The only difference is consoles gets games at the end of the day and PC doesn't.
There are more and a greater variety of games on the PC. Every genre existent on consoles also exists on the PC and comparable games to those you can play on consoles exist on PC, while PC has unique genres and games that don't exist on consoles and never will.

>Consoles are a prudct for those who enjoy games. PC is for those who care about performance over software.
Consoles are the poor and stupid man's choice of gaming platform, since you get a worse deal overall, with a worse gaming experience and less variety of titles.

Fact.
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>>321476837
Why is there a shaved orangutan in that hospital bed?
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>>321486162
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Why doesn't he take all his money and fuck a bunch of hookers?
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>>321486563
>And you don't have access to almost any type of service, patches, dlc, etc.
Wrong. The online fee is to simply connect multiplayers games to the net. we can use the psn shop for sales, download patches, get free themes, buy expansion dlc and what not.

>Which takes a lot of effort, is undermined by region locks, content tied to accounts,
The ps4 is not region locked and its as simple as clicking buttons and getting something in the mail. PC gaming is more expensive sometimes. Just last week MGSV was going for $30 or something while it was still full price on steam. Ultimate we get physical media that we have full ownership of and can re-sell it at any time, there are advantages to physical games.

>There are more and a greater variety of games on the PC. Every genre existent on consoles also exists on the PC and comparable games to those you can play on consoles exist on PC, while PC has unique genres and games that don't exist on consoles and never will.

It doesn't matter, 99% of those games are underfunded crap from unknown developers trying to pass greenlight with their morning coffe after thoughts. Quality is better than Quantity.

>a worse gaming experience and less variety of titles.
You can't have a better gmaing experience if you don't even get games in the first place. You enjoy performance and side features before software and that says it all.
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>>321477472
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>>321487102
which volume is this?
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>>321486162
I hope rockstar never succumb to this goddamn feminazi meme and ruin their games with them. I think theyre too based too though and they know they're doing something right because of their sales. Fuck feminazis.
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>>321487181
>The online fee is to simply connect multiplayers games to the net. we can use the psn shop for sales, download patches, get free themes, buy expansion dlc and what not.
I've already refuted that argument: the point is that on the PC you get all of it for free.

>PC gaming is more expensive sometimes. Just last week MGSV was going for $30 or something while it was still full price on steam.
We're talking about averages and it's on sale right now.

>Ultimate we get physical media that we have full ownership of and can re-sell it at any time, there are advantages to physical games.
Except that this is being undermined by content tied to accounts which has become the norm.

>It doesn't matter, 99% of those games are underfunded crap from unknown developers trying to pass greenlight with their morning coffe after thoughts. Quality is better than Quantity.
Except for the part where PC has the quality. Most on consoles is generic AAA garbage which plays incredibly dull and would only entertain mentally challenged children. The vast majority of console releases these days are dull action games played from third person perspective. An adult mind would hardly be entertained by this.

>You can't have a better gmaing experience if you don't even get games in the first place.
As I said earlier: in terms of quantity the PC outnumbers consoles by far. And in terms of quality too. You have little variety on consoles, and barely anything to play outside of AAA garbage.
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>>321480387
thats because you have a shit 9-5 job topkek
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>>321487709
>I hope rockstar never succumb to this goddamn feminazi meme and ruin their games with them. I think theyre too based too though and they know they're doing something right because of their sales. Fuck feminazis.

Though I don't think they would really change their stories based on outside input, way to fall for the feminazi meme.

Because people who disagree with you, however strongly,are clearly fascists and want to invade Poland.
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>>321476837
is that Angel Batista from Dexter
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>>321487974
Tumblrwhale detected
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>>321477546
/v/ is full of neet retards and lgbtfreaks that get their parents to buy them Nintendo toys for Christmas.

You shouldn't make fun of them because they get upset and take it out on their poor family.
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>>321478278
It's ok. Overhyped on /v/.
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>>321479285
this. fucking hiroshimot, /PC/when
or all of you fucker can get fucked to /rpcmasterrace
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>>321488276
nah brah

just think shitflinging on the internet is retarded
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>>321486162
He's 31, that suck.
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>>321487740
>We're talking about averages and it's on sale right now.

I already re-sold my MGSV game after completing it and realising it was an unfinished game and got a 105% return. You cannot make money back on your purchase if you one day want to collect some funds or if you have buyers remorse.

>Except that this is being undermined by content tied to accounts which has become the norm

Except it's not, I have dutch and Japanese games/DLC and content on my US account.

> The vast majority of console releases these days are dull action games played from third person perspective. An adult mind would hardly be entertained by this.

The majority of PC exclusive games are low budget indie games made by developers who don't have the experience or knowledge to create proper length engaging games. In fact it's life blood is multiplat and is those exact AAA generic action games you're talking about. Consoles have the good IP's and the good devs under their wing. I can play RTS that can run on the household family shitbox at any time but I am looking forward to unique games for the PS4 and haven't touched a multiplat beside MGSV in years.

>As I said earlier: in terms of quantity the PC outnumbers consoles by far. And in terms of quality too. You have little variety on consoles, and barely anything to play outside of AAA garbage.
PS4 has over 600 exclusives right now that range in genres but nobody including me will shill them like PC users shill the quantity of their steam library because we know its low-effort shovelware for the most part from literal who developers.

Quantity =/= Quality and consoles are humble enough to admit it dose get a few quality titles and a lot more in 2016 instead of falling back on it's 700 exclusives it already has.
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>>321488431
Too bad the Doctors couldn't see at 60fps, else they may have been able to catch the cancer.
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>>321476837
>retard will die soon
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I dislike 30 FPS but passing up a game and watching on youtube because it's 30 FPS?

The fuck is wrong with him
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>>321487974
>getting this butthurt over a word
>restating a strawman of someone's statement as a sarcastic sentence fragment beginning with the word "Because"

Tumblr detected.
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>>321488618
Because playing at 30fps and watching it are two different things,

Thats why he fucking watches them.
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>>321488832
>watching games instead of playing them
That's literally being PCuck
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>>321488804
>>getting this butthurt over a word
>>restating a strawman of someone's statement as a sarcastic sentence fragment beginning with the word "Because"

I just think it's a retarded meme to begin with. Just because I disagree with ya doesn't mean I'm a tumblrfag feminazi sjw jew who wants to cuck my white husband with a big black cock

OR DO I?
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>>321488448
>Except it's not, I have dutch and Japanese games/DLC and content on my US account.
Yes, it is. If content has been claimed then you're not going to get it. They're fighting the second hand market. On the PC people are trying to rip you off.

>The majority of PC exclusive games are low budget indie games made by developers who don't have the experience or knowledge to create proper length engaging games.
You mean they make actual games opposed to cinematic crap that runs at less than 30fps while being occasionally interrupted by third person action game sequences? Fact is: most of what is released on consoles these days is utter garbage.

>I am looking forward to unique games for the PS4
Like what? What does the PS4 have except for Bloodborne, which factually is yet another Souls game rehash, which you can play on the PC. On the other hand on the PC you have strategy games like Victoria 2 or Hearts of Iron, RPGs like Age of Decadence, simulators like DCS World, Rise of Flight or ARMA, ... things you would never see on a console.

What games that would be entertaining to an adult does a console have to offer? I don't see anything remarkable there.

>PS4 has over 600 exclusives right now
600 exclusives? In what universe?

>Quantity =/= Quality and consoles are humble enough to admit it dose get a few quality titles and a lot more in 2016 instead of falling back on it's 700 exclusives it already has.
It's 700 exclusives now? Are you out of your mind?

And the point remains: in terms of quality I don't see anything worthwhile. It's all generic, dull and cinematic AAA garbage which gameplay wise might be entertaining to 12 year olds, but not to an adult.
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>>321488832

>he refuses to play game at 30fps
>youtube videos shot and played back at 24FPS
>broadcasts streams at 30FPS
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>>321489013
But he cant play them because they are at 30fps.
It is less fluid when it comes to input.
It looks worse.
Motion blur is heavier.

Besides, half the fucking games on consoles are "muh cintematic experience"

You already are watching a movie.
But thats being a consolefag I guess.
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>>321488448
>PS4 has over 600 exclusives right now
The Sony Pony has lost its mind.

This is what too much butthurt and getting told does to people.
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>>321476837
>What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
Cancer.
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>>321489385
>What the fuck is wrong with this guy?

Wrong.
Law degree
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>>321489294
That's like saying I can't play Ocarina of Time since it's 15 FPS, it's still fluid as fuck pham :)
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>>321489264
>youtube videos shot and played back at 24FPS
>broadcasts streams at 30FPS

>Youtube videos are 24FPS
I'm not even going to argue with that. That amount of autism hurts me.

>Broadcasts streams at 30FPS
see >>321489294
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>>321487102
Im gonna need to get the sauce
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>>321489497
Take off your nostalgia goggles.

[Spoiler] Because its not [/Spoiler]
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>>321487102
I have this JAV, and it wasn't shot in 60fps, so either this is interpolated bullshit.
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>>321489382
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games
>Multiplatform = 459
it didnt have to be this way
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>>321489497
See >>321487102
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>>321476837
Its called being an insufferable faggot. Im surprised v hates him because it has the same problem.

Also cancer, which v also has, too.
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>>321477153
>Does le PC master race turn everyone into a cynical cunt?
>cynical
Maybe.
PC used to be the premium experience in gaming in the 90's provided you had the $$$ for the hardware. It was almost always ahead of the graphics curve. Positional audio was still a thing. It had multiplayer and social networking long before consoles had it standardized. On the other hand, it had day 1 patching meant having to hunt down your own patches. Then sixth gen consoles hit and Microsoft paid devs to stop giving a shit about the platform; quality of first rate games dropped like a rock.
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>>321477472
SOMEONE SCREENCAP THIS I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT
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>>321489476
Damn.
No wonder he's such a cuck.
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>>321478404
I play Dota for 5000 hours because I can't find enough joy in other games. PC master race represent, kill me.
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>>321489790
>Then sixth gen consoles hit and Microsoft paid devs to stop giving a shit about the platform to focus exclusively on Xbox

ftfy
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>>321489809
>I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT
consolefag detected
Use your Print Screen key
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>>321490001
it was a reference to this
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>>321489224

>Yes, it is. If content has been claimed then you're not going to get it.
That's if you're buying second hand games and of course, you ask if the seller if the content is claimed, even if it isnt the PS4 isn't region locked.

>You mean they make actual games opposed to cinematic crap that runs at less than 30fps while being occasionally interrupted by third person action game sequences? Fact is: most of what is released on consoles these days is utter garbage

Cinematic garbage exists on the PC too and only casuals play that. The most renowned PC game released this year looks like it was made in ms paint. In fact the entire platform is filled with low quality steam greenlight stuff from indie developers who don't know hwo to make games properly. Thousands of those games don't make up for quality.

>Like what? What does the PS4 have except for Bloodborne

Gravity Rush, Tearaway, Persona 5, Star Ocean 5, Horizon Zero Dawn, Final Fantasy XV, Bloodborne, Amplitude. PS4 has top of the line RPGS and jRPGS not underfunded RPGS's like you have that are created by literal who developers who don't know what they are doing. PS4 has the best rythm games. Has a unique gravity platformer, best of the line. Horizon Zero Dawn a monster Hunter. Bloodborne the best action game with RPG elements released in recent times. All this vs what? Some strategy game nobody has played becuse its a dead genre? Some $5 rpg? And other $2 games nobody has ever heard of ir will ever play because they are low quality titles made by inexperienced developers.

>600 exclusives? In what universe?
Okay it has 406 exclusives but my point still stands, you'll be hard pressed to find anybody desperate enough to shill the quantity of its games unlike steam users who fall back on it because the platform has no good games.

>And the point remains: in terms of quality I don't see anything worthwhile.
Same thing can be said about steams indie game/kick starter-tier library of shovelware
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>>321489686
What JAV???
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>>321490086
It wasn't a reference to this also that thread sucked also fuck you newfag and fuck the other guy for being a cancerous fag.
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>>321490001
Fuck off, newfag
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>>321489994
Yes, and they all went multplat anway even though MS was cutting massive checks. It almost worked for them considering how loud devs were complaining about what a hot mess it was to code for the PS3; Kutaragi was rightfully punted from Sony.
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>>321476837
No offense but my belief is that internet comments can kill you. He got under so much stress eventually his fucking immune system just died.

You notice almost every PC commenter guy is like hollow eyed, pale skinned, fat or skinny, with a ten thousand mile stare into the abyss.

Every Starcraft commentator looks like they are 20-25 years older then their actual age. I mean look at Apollo 5 years ago vs Apollo now, he's literally a balding wrinkled manlet at 23.

We are going to discover someday that social media overuse kills your body and brain, like people were never meant to get this much input into their thoughts and actions, this much trolling and abuse.

Sorry don't want to bring the violins out but there's no way you can be big on the internet without dying a quick death.

Look at 2007 Kripparian vs. 2015 Kripparian, he has no body weight, hair, and looks like death itself now. He says the Twitch chat doesn't effect him but I know he's lying, look at his body.

PC commentating, decent money but damn maybe not worth it, PC video gamers are some shitty people, you don't want to voluntarily deal with them every day.

Interestingly, console people are all very happy looking, like Dashie so it proves my point.
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will there be a sticky when he passes away?
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>>321479285
Can we just send them back to Reddit instead?
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>>321490258
>That's if you're buying second hand games and of course, you ask if the seller if the content is claimed, even if it isnt the PS4 isn't region locked.
The point remains that PC games are on average cheaper and you can get them cheaper with little effort. This is not debatable but a fact. And if you're really poor in the sense of not being able to afford the few worthwhile games released per year you can always pirate.

>Cinematic garbage exists on the PC too
Except where on consoles these games are the majority.

>In fact the entire platform is filled with low quality steam greenlight stuff from indie developers who don't know hwo to make games properly. Thousands of those games don't make up for quality.
And among those thousands of games you have plenty of games which easily surpass the average console games in terms of quality. Most AAA releases are garbage. Most console games are garbage. Dull, uninteresting garbage made for children. This is a fact.

>Gravity Rush, Tearaway, Persona 5, Star Ocean 5, Horizon Zero Dawn, Final Fantasy XV, Bloodborne, Amplitude.
Half of these games aren't even out yet. Not to mention that none of them look particularly interesting.

>PS4 has top of the line RPGS and jRPGS not underfunded RPGS's like you have that are created by literal who developers who don't know what they are doing.
Except for the part where they very well know what they're doing. You won't find a real RPG on a console that can mechanically compare even a bit to the great RPGs of the late 90s and early 00s released on PC.

>PS4 has the best rythm games. Has a unique gravity platformer, best of the line. Horizon Zero Dawn a monster Hunter. Bloodborne the best action game with RPG elements released in recent times.
And you can find comparable shit on the PC, while PC has unique genres that don't exist on consoles. And in each genre games which surpass or are equal to what you have on consoles.

Fact is: PC is superior in that regard.
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>>321490462
I know youre right.

But its a burden we have to carry.

Someone has to do it right?

Think of us as that old-withering grandfather in the room with the family. We have so much to share, but so little time.
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>>321490835
>you have plenty of games which easily surpass the average console games

Like what? Undertale?
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>>321490835 continued
>Okay it has 406 exclusives
"No"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games

Are you seriously retarded?

>you'll be hard pressed to find anybody desperate enough to shill the quantity of its games
Because there is no "quantity of its games". There are only a handful of worthwhile games - and I'd argue that they're mostly worthwhile to people who play such games. To an educated person, most of them would be outright insulting.

>Same thing can be said about steams indie game/kick starter-tier library of shovelware
The existence of shovelware does not mean that you can find plenty of great titles.

You can't say the same about consoles. All you have is dull crap.

You're trying to tell me an adult man would play a game about mashing buttons to beat up monsters, which is the majority of console games?
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>>321491056
Plenty of games.

Age of Decadence for example is probably the greatest RPG since Torment in the sense of dialogue based role playing.

You have genres which don't even exist on consoles such as grand strategy games or flight simulators. Games which actually involve a modicum of depth and require effort to learn.

Console games are made for mentally challenged children.
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>>321476837
>le 30fps is fine meme
no it really isn't, it sucks to go back to after playing literally everything else in 60fps.


and dial up was fine in the fucking 90s, but there's no fucking way I'll accept that kind of internet speed in 2015 the current year 2015 and now almost 2016!
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>>321491237
>Age of Decadence
Oh, so you're a literal fedora tipper.
Fuck off back to reddit
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>>321491575
>le 60fps is fine meme
no it really isn't, it sucks to go back to after playing literally everything else in 144fps.


and dial up was fine in the fucking 90s, but there's no fucking way I'll accept that kind of internet speed in 2015 the current year 2015 and now almost 2016!
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>>321491579
Oh, so you got told like a subhuman and don't have any argument left?

I've been here before reddit even existed - very much unlike you.
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>The point remains that PC games are on average cheaper

It's relative, just because you can buy 200 flash games for $5 doesn't make PC gaming cheaper. It needs to be looked at on a case by case basis.

>And among those thousands of games you have plenty of games which easily surpass the average console games in terms of quality.

Most PC games are dull, unfinished, broken developed by inexperienced college kid developers. The games cost $2 because they are worth $2. Consoles have better AAA developers working for them full stop. That is actual fact. It's why PC isn't getting dick besides multiplats and its most anticipated games will be console ports.

>Except for the part where they very well know what they're doing. You won't find a real RPG on a console that can mechanically compare even a bit to the great RPGs of the late 90s and early 00s released on PC.

PS1, PS2, 3DS, DS, PSP, PS3
Don't think so, the best RPGS hell the best RPGS in history will have roots exclusively on consoles.

>And you can find comparable shit on the PC, while PC has unique genres that don't exist on consoles. And in each genre games which surpass or are equal to what you have on consoles.

Doubt you'll find a platformers, a monster hunter or a jrpg equaly as good as what you'll find on consoles. Steam greenlight shit is low quality junk hoarders collect. Its shovelware I don't take seriously.

>>321491124
> and I'd argue that they're mostly worthwhile to people who play such games. To an educated person, most of them would be outright insulting.

Are you really unironically using the ''le mature games for educated people'' argument? Please calm yourself. And that is exactly my point, there are only a handful of quality titles so steam users constantly shilling the quantity of their library is weak shit as someone would try to shill ps4's quantity of exclusives rather than a few select games which they do, unlike steam users.
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>>321491674
and much like resolution there reaches a point of diminishing returns. 30FPS IS NOT THAT POINT
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>>321491780
>I've been here before reddit even existed

Sure you have :^)
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>>321476837
edgy thread
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>>321491817
>le human eye can't see more than 60fps

You are a fucking peasant, get out of my sight.
144 fps at 4k or bust, faggot
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>>321491124
>You're trying to tell me an adult man would play a game about mashing buttons to beat up monsters, which is the majority of console games?

I play jrpgs, jrpgs are for gaming enthusiasts who like to sink over 100 hours into a game with a good story. As an adult I can appreciate jrpgs and also switch to action RPGS and enjoy those too among a variety of other genres.

Please enlighten me though, what games do 'mature educated adults' play? Because according to your logic, playing any kind of rhythm game while mashing buttons is for children.

Is that what you think?
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>>321491925
I never said that you retard, but by all means enjoy your 900p 20fps cinematic experiences if you think what you're saying is even a proper argument against my point.
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>>321491805
>It's relative, just because you can buy 200 flash games for $5 doesn't make PC gaming cheaper. It needs to be looked at on a case by case basis.
It's not relative, it's a fact.

>Most PC games are dull, unfinished, broken developed by inexperienced college kid developers.
And despite that you can still find much more brilliance than on consoles where literally everything is AAA garbage aimed at the lowest common denominator, the dregs of society.

>Don't think so, the best RPGS hell the best RPGS in history will have roots exclusively on consoles.
Pro-tip: JRPGs aren't real RPGs. Had I meant JRPGs I would have said so.

>Doubt you'll find a platformers, a monster hunter or a jrpg equaly as good as what you'll find on consoles.

>platformers
There are plenty. Personally, I don't play them, but there are plenty of critically acclaimed platformers.

>monster hunter
>jrpg
>good
You're a funny little man.

>ps4's quantity of exclusives
There is no "quantity of exclusives". There is a handful left. Take a look at the fucking numbers. Exclusive titles are a thing of the past. In the PS1 and PS2 gen almost every game was exclusive. Now only a tiny fraction is left.

And most of these exclusives aren't even worth playing.
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>>321491993
>I play jrpgs, jrpgs are for gaming enthusiasts who like to sink over 100 hours into a game with a good story.
JRPGs have always been a dull storytelling medium more than actual games.

Mechanically, they've always been inferior to their western counterparts which actually pushed the boundary of the genre. But you wouldn't know what I've been talking about because your horizon is too limited for that due to not having played the games I'm talking about.
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>>321490278
The one in the fucking webm, what other JAV could I be talking about you fucking idiot?
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>>321492336
>JRPGs have always been a dull storytelling medium more than actual games.
JRPGs are not a medium, they are a genre
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>>321492480
You would be very retarded if you believed that the two things are exclusive.
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>>321492336

It's been proven countless times jrpgs are superior to wrpgs who constantly lean on tolkien fantasy and are mechanically inferior games. jrpgs have the biggest variety and have pushed the boundary to insane heights. The latest acclaimed wrpg to come out is yet.... another toilkien fantasy based rpg with mechanical flaws and broken gameplay mechanics. Stale story telling, repetitive gameplay, inferior statbuilding, etc etc etc

This dose beckon the question though since you hate japanese games, what are you even doing on 4chan? This place is not for you and you don't belong here
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>>321492215
>Pro-tip: JRPGs aren't real RPGs

Stopped reading there to be honest.
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>>321492591
what does that even mean
do you know the difference between a medium and a genre?
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>>321478375
dude im so tired of this no games meme. literally tons of fine games to enjoy on pc. and if you really can't stand it buy a fucking ps4. noone cares. as for this 30fps shit, no it doesn't ruin games but it is undeniable that 60+ feels better on the eyes. If someone is proud that they like something more power to them.
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>>321492646
>It's been proven countless times jrpgs are superior to wrpgs who constantly lean on tolkien fantasy and are mechanically inferior games.
"No."

First of all, if you think that western RPGs relied that much on Tolkien then you don't know what you're talking about. Can you name five titles released in the recent time that were Tolkien-esque? No, you can't because you don't know shit about what you're talking about. And even if you could, I could name a non-tolkien game for every title you mention.

>mechanically inferior games
"No."

Western RPGs managed to actually approach the pen & paper ideal. They are mechanically much more involved since gameplay in a western RPG involves more than just combat. It involves dialogue, multiple solutions to quests, player-world interaction, etc.

>have pushed the boundary to insane heights
"No."

JRPGs have been incredibly stagnant. They've introduced arbitrary modifiers, but hardly anything else.

The point is: You don't know shit about what you're talking about.


>This dose beckon the question though since you hate japanese games, what are you even doing on 4chan? This place is not for you and you don't belong here
I've been here since 2005. I like anime, but I have a realistic perspective on game design. I don't dislike Japanese games per se. There are things the Japanese do well. RPG design in terms of mechanics is not one of those things.
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>BAAAAW THIS GUY MADE FUN OF MY VIDYA I REALLY WANNA KILL HIM FOR THAT BAAAAW
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>>321492762
How is a genre defined if not by a set of mechanics? Are you aware that certain mechanics are tailored to storytelling and others are not? Are you literally retarded?

>>321492738
It's true though.
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>>321493027

>First of all, if you think that western RPGs relied that much on Tolkien then you don't know what you're talking about. Can you name five titles released in the recent time that were Tolkien-esque? No, you can't because you don't know shit about what you're talking about. And even if you could, I could name a non-tolkien game for every title you mention.

I don't care that you have expert knowledge on the 50 steam greenlight RPG's you collected this year. They are all similar, if not tolkien fantasy, dark fantasy or some other medieval spin off with the same artstyle and gameplay all the time.


>since gameplay in a western RPG involves more than just combat. It involves dialogue, multiple solutions to quests, player-world interaction, etc.

So like every other jrpg.
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>>321493121
>How is a genre defined if not by a set of mechanics?
who says it's not?
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>>321489923
You can't find joy in good games, only shitty ones? You really are Master Race I guess.
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>>321493342
>They are all similar, if not tolkien fantasy, dark fantasy or some other medieval spin off with the same artstyle and gameplay all the time.
Is that so? You have RTWP, turn-based, action based real time, party-based vs single character, blobbers vs isometric, .. there is so much more variety that you couldn't make any more of a fool of yourself by displaying such ignorance.

As I said: you don't know shit.

>So like every other jrpg.
No, the things I've mentioned are exceedingly rare in JRPGs and certainly aren't ingrained deep within the core philosophy of Japanese game design.

>>321493353
>who says it's not?
If we are in agreement and the set of mechanics is tailored for storytelling and the genre is defined by the set of mechanics, to which conclusion does that lead us?
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>>321477472
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>>321492456
I meant whats its name of the JAV, the sauce.
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If only everyone on /v/, /a/, /pol/ and /sp/ would follow him to the afterlife. It's a win win for everyone.
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>>321477546
The Euphoria of Gaming
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It might sound like b8 to some people but I really don't give a shit if a game is at 30 or 60fps. If there isn't a noticeable stutter I don't care. TB's constantly babble about framrates and his lemmings is fuckin obnoxious
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>>321486645
>talk shit, get cancer.
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When even stormfront realize that console wars are just fun and games for most of it, you now realize that /v/'s userbase is even worse and more retarded than storm
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>>321494347
They actually have legitimate grounds to hate PC users though

See
>>321492998
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>>321493769
>If we are in agreement and the set of mechanics is tailored for storytelling and the genre is defined by the set of mechanics, to which conclusion does that lead us?
I still don't understand what you're talking about
it was about JRPGs being a genre, not a medium
video games, books and movies are mediums
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>>321494502
>legitimate grounds
>your post
>"what happened before and during the PS360 gen is the rise of PC gaming"
kek
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>>321494643
A certain genre might still be a storytelling medium.

A JRPG is more so a storytelling medium than a rhythm game is since it is mechanically tailored to be one.
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>>321493121
Electronic RPGs have never allowed actual role playing, simply the illusion that you are. In reality you can play a few roles with basically no nuaance
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>>321496562
It's role playing in the sense of being able to make decisions that reflect upon your character's personality. That's all there is to it really. Whether this is qualitatively comparable to role playing in the pen & paper sense is a different issue, but it attempts to approach it and does a sufficient job. In any case, JRPGs are even worse at it.
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>>321479285
There is it's called /r/pcmasterrace
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>>321477472
He's 31 and doesn't have cancer any more.. try being more timely.
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>>321479350
And yet it doesn't run Bloodborne
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>>321485376
By sitting far away
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>>321477153
No, but being on /v/ does.
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>>321476837
To be fair he claims playing games in 30fps gives him motion sickness, which is a pretty good reason not to do so. That's not a decision based off shitty egotistical tribalism or anything.
Although he has been pretty bad with that kind of le glorious pc mustard race stuff before.
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