How come nobody is talking about British tanks?
>>320950330
They are better on World of Tanks
War Thunder is for planes
>>320950330
Russian bias tank grinding simulator
>>320950330
>>320950330
Because the conqueror has shit armour despite being a tier 5 tank and a gun from tanks at least 30 years in the future
>>320950735
Lol I started playing Russian tanks after Brits came out because they're op as fuck. They have much better armor than Russians and the best penetration of any other country.
>>320950914
Has better armor and penetration than the Leopard.
>>320950486
This desu
Ground Forces on WT are just bad because you can turn off all foliage to see the enemy across the map. It's broken and gaijin are too busy counting their shekels than fixing their broken game.
>>320950735
xaxaxa, that's completely untrue, tovarish)))))))))buy golden eagles
I'm surprised anybody still plays War Thunder after all the shit gaijin has pulled.
I tried playing it again a couple months ago after taking a break from it for a year. Somehow managed to get chatbanned for one month after calling someone a turd burglar in my first rb game. I just uninstalled it.
>>320951159
What did they pull out of their asses?
>>320951159
Lol I've called people nigger, cunt, shit head, and far worse and I've never been banned.
Because World of Tanks, as grindy it is, is better.
It actually fucking works and isn't a broken mess.
At least Wargaming actually tries to balance their game unlike Gaijin who have no shame in hiding their bias.
>>320950330
Busy playing a real tank game, fampai
People are burned out of tanks. World of Tanks just came out with Czech tanks too.
>>320950931
Brits will be nerfed just like Americans were.
>>320951542
pure autismhope you enjoy the game thought
>>320951809
And russians buffed because historically accurate tvorisch
>>320951510
that's the major reason I uninstalled it the other being not wanting to get back into the grind again.
>>320951542
wot game?
>>320951889
>Anything deeper than point gun at target and shoot is autism
M8...
>>320952235
Steel armor blaze of war
>>320951906
The grind is rough. But it does feel sooo good when you finally get that tank or plane.
>complains about realism in f2p garbage
autism.
World of Tanks is apparently better, but I much prefer the look, sound and feel of War Thunder Ground Forces. Tanks are cool in that game, even if they are broken; and I really like the way of simulating damage they've got.
It's nice without being too much of a steel beasts-tier hardcore sim.
>>320950735
This is true for tier 2 at least, i can carry a shit team with a T-34, while with an M4 or Pzkw IV F2 i can only do well enough to not look as shit as the rest of the idiots because while the guns allow me to deal with anything i encounter the armor is not suited for brawling.
Also, holy shit; that explosive armor piercing shot is OP as fuck.
armored warfare is so much better than the other tank games
>>320951542
That interior looks pretty cool, but i have no interest in tanks that fought in literally who nigga wars.
>>320951021
This was like two patches ago i think.
>>320950330
Fuck me, I'm playing in a panzer IV F2 and I'm literally losing every fucking game. I'll usually get a kill or two if I ambush a T-34 on it's side but the german team still gets absolutely shredded.
What gives?
>>320951905
>"Russian tanks are OP"
>"HHuehue look at this WEHRABOO it's historically accurate just GIT GUD blyat"
every time
>>320953504
>Russian invasion of Afghanistan is literally who
>Iran Vs Iraq is literally who
>M60s and T62s fighting is literally who
Africa I might give you.
>>320952947
Doesn't WoT use health bars for the tanks too? I think that's why I'll always prefer WT I like actually seeing that the round has gone through the tank and taken out crew members/equipment
>>320950330
British tanks in WWII were famously useless, until the Centurion (but the war was over anyway).
I say this as a Brit.
>>320953808
>I'll usually get a kill or two if I ambush a T-34
You know the T-34 has a big weakspot on the fron in the form of the driver's hatch and will certainly kill it if you shoot thru it with normal Pzrg 39 because there's an ammo rack right behind it, do you?
>>320953808
The first few tiers of German tanks give you an insight into what an ammo rack explosion simulator might play like. I'm in tier 3 and it's only improved slightly
>>320954284
but the anti tank shit they had was bretty gud
unfortunately wargaming refuses to put in decent brit anti tank guns
>>320951513
What the fuck were they thinking?
>>320954053
>Russian invasion of Afghanistan
Oh yeah, i remember that one time the T-72s engaged the mujahadeen armor in epic clashes of biblic proportions.
Oh wait, they just killed them with american supplied and captured russian anti tank weapons in ambushes.
>>320953808
In a Panzer it's usually best to snipe because you don't have a rotating turret. I like to see the Germans play more of a support role. Holding front lines by setting ambushes in cities and sniping from afar in open terrain.
I was into War Thunder a while back but it just felt completely soulless to me. I own a HOTAS and am very good with it, but because the game is set up to give KBM the priority, you're at a quantifiable disadvantage if you use anything but KBM. And if you're at a disadvantage using a HOTAS then what the fuck is the point in even playing?
Also I just want to be able to play as an A-10, is that so much to ask
>>320954546
>long ass reload time
>open hull with paper armor
I think it balances it out, imo
>>320950735
>Russian bias
The USSR did have the best tanks of the war so it's not really a bias.
>>320951513
>hp tanks
no
When did War Thunder become a tank game? I thought it was an airplane game
>>320954612
>Being this retarded
Anyway, you can create your own scenario's easily. If you want some."biblical" tank battle you can create and with more depth in gameplay than WT
>>320954950
Russian tanks were shit
>but muh T-34
Shit tank and the crews hated it
Proved by high losses
Only good when facing outdated German tanks
>>320954950
Yea but that was later in the war. In WT German tier 5s are still WW2 era tanks and they're going up against tanks from the late 1950s.
>>320955160
>ad hominem
You sure showed me.
Not!
What now? remind me about what year we're living in? do it, do the thing.
It's a fucking literally who nigga war, armor was more of a hindrance than an advantage.
>>320954950
I think you mean the worst
Go ahead, bring up your meme-34, I'll wait
>>320955008
When Gajin realised your average F2P shitter is too stupid to fly a plane.
>>320954921
Before it starts to balance out it already destroyed 1 tank
>>320955426
>Russian tanks were shit
All the experts, like Guderian, disagree with you.
But I'm sure you're an expert too. :)
>>320955447
>Yea but that was later in the war.
No, it was literally in 1941. From the getgo the USSR fielded superior tanks to Germany and the German army acknowledged this and worked to bring newer tanks into the field faster. Germany caught up in '43 but soon lost out again.
>>320955515
>hurr durr worst memes splurrr
cool shitpost, friend
Come back when you have something real to say.
>>320955008
It's going to have planes, tanks, and ships ultimately. They just started with planes.
>>320955671
>Only good when facing outdated German tanks
French and British tanks rekt Panzer II's and Panzer III's with ease too
>>320955671
>All the experts, like Guderian, disagree with you.
All the experts copied the Panther, which was the staple of every modern tanks
Guderian got his shit stomped and blamed it on the tanks, it doesnt erase the fact T-34 never achieved a decent performance, despite your russiaboos circlejerks
But these discussions are always fucking pointless because tanks didnt matter at all during WW2, France had the best tanks but got shitstomped by Germany, who had twice the population and produced more
Then Germany had the best tanks, but got shitstomped by Russia, aka twice its population who also produced more
Moral of the story is stop shitposting and go make more babies
>>320956123
Which is why they stampeded into Paris with relative ease.
quick post your RB/SB plane-fu
>>320956268
>Everything in ww2 was about the tanks
I was wondering when this meme was gonna show up
>>320956123
>o-outdated!
>wiped out IV's, Panthers, Tigers and have you anyway to win the war
keep trying for those meme arguments
>>320956245
>All the experts copied the T-34
ftfy
Germany saw the T-34 and two years later, after copying all they could, unleashed the Panther. Which subsequently became the bitch of the Panther-killer, the T-34/85.
tl;dr the rest of your wehraboo nonsense
>>320955671
>tfw such a fucking wehraboo that just watching documentaries about specific battles where germans lost makes me upset
And the biggest irony is that I'm actually slavic.
>>320956384
>What is blitzkreig
>>320950330
Because the game is too grindy to be fun.
>>320956506
Nothing wrong with it as long as you're honest about it. Germany built cool shit but Russia's was ultimately superior.
>>320956629
>implying blitzkrieg is just about tanks
It's about combined arms (Infantry, Armour, Artillery, Airforce) working together by pushing a hole in front and exploiting it.
>>320956491
Most of German tank losses were due to losses by Air Attack not by Tank on Tank battles
>>320954612
>Interested in large scale tank battles
>Plays something like WTGF where the max amount of players at a time is 32
>>320956491
>Which subsequently became the bitch of the Panther-killer, the T-34/85
http://www.operationbarbarossa.net/the-t-34-in-wwii-the-legend-vs-the-performance
2.94 to 1
That's how many T34 lost for every german tanks
WW2 was won by demographics, not by meme tanks
>People shit on the M4 and German tanks because "muh mechanical failures"
>The T34 had to be sent back to the factory to fix anything more complex than a roadwheel
>/v/ attempting to discuss world war 2
>>320954950
>T-34-76 gets matched up against contemporary tanks
>Tiger and Panther get matched up against 1944 Russian tanks
They only choose historical accuracy when it favors the Russians. When it doesn't they simply ignore it.
>>320956941
More is not always better, especially if there's no emphasis on teamwork or communication. Without those it'll just turn into a shitty, unfun clusterfuck with hundreds of lone wolf tanks doing nothing the whole game.
>>320957342
>spot convoy
>try to intercept it
>escorts spot me
>this happens
>stay submerged for 8 hours
>while I surface, convoy has gotten away
evry time
>>320957408
Forgit pic
>>320957351
Can't do anything about it man, German tanks were so advance the rest of the world only catched up decades after.
>>320957351
And yet, Panthers can destroy IS-2s without any problems. Come on, I am a massive wehraboo, but the tanks do work just fine if you know how to use them.
Planes on the other hand... Yaks are untouchable godplanes.
>>320957408
> for both of us
>both
))))
>>320954612
You want of large tank battles? This is just map screen, afterwards it goes into full 3D battle with player control
>>320957685
Yeah? Is there something you are implying?
Is of star wars
>>320957583
Takes multiple well aimed shots to kill an IS-2. Meanwhile the IS-2 can just one shot anything it comes up against. No aiming required.
>>320956858
Artillery and tanks. That's all a blitzkreig is. Before WW2 tanks were just used as infantry support, the Germans started creating panzer divisions and used those to push allowing infantry to fill the gaps after they had already passed.
>>320958035
Dude, I one-shot IS-2s with 99% reliability. Especially if I have an 88.
You have to be a special kind of retard if you want to go frontally against an IS-2.
>>320958015
Reminds me of Fury.
>>320957487
At least you didn't get hit.
>>320958035
Because good high explosive ammo is only of russian origin.
Just like T34 anti-shell fuel tanks!
Long reload times due to heavy filler is of nazi propaganda!
Rest of nations get literal lazers (solid shells), straight line of penetration with no kinetic force (spalling does not exist in real life).
ITT: Buttblasted antisoviets
>>320954950
Soviets lost 3 tanks for every destroyed german tank...
>>320958315
>same battle rating
>frontal attack is suicidal
thanks for the balanced game, tovarish
>>320958514
>Rest of nations get literal lazers (solid shells), straight line of penetration with no kinetic force (spalling does not exist in real life).
Dunno, tried a few Brit tanks. The 2pdr and 6pdr spall pretty good, no matter what they hit. The 75mm is just brutal, I'm usually able to oneshot most tanks I hit, with a few exceptions like the T-28 with it's MG turret crew bunkers.
>>320957487
>>320958391
Is this Silent Hunter 3 ? I wanted to try it out, might pick it up in the winter sale. Never played subs before.
>>320958834
There is more to driving a tank than being a braindead idiot that wants to slug it out <300m like a WoT retard you know.
>>320958869
Did you notice how the same types of shells work better on brits?
Because they are baiting you to open your pocket to buy brits.
Like americans they will be nerfed HARD some time after release and explosive GIGANTIC SOVIET DAMAGE will rule supreme again.
>>320958341
I just put as many tank battalions as I could on the field and told them to fire on an area. You can also deploy air assets, apcs, infantry, etc. Though you can only crew tanks. Same devs as Graviteam tactics operation star
They also made some WW2 tank sims, Steel Fury I think is the series name. Not on Steam or GoG yet
All F2P games are fucking grindy and not fun.
>>320959210
Oh, the other WW2 tank sim they did was Achtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943. Then one called Steel fury, haven't played them.
>>320958935
Silent Hunter 4, the one set in Pacific with american submarines
>>320959395
Ah ok. I heard mixed things about the SH games after 3. How bad are they?
>>320958935
Silent Hunter 4.
Picked up 3,4 and 5 in a sale a few weeks back. Haven't played 3 yet, but 4 is tons of fun.
Careful if you buy 5, you need an Uplay account to play it, and probably need to manually download a few files or it will just crash on startup (Uplay that is).
>>320959190
I am disgusted people still catched into that.
>>320959468
The fan patches improve 4 a bunch. in the stock game you'll get harassed by planes so badly.
>>320959606
Think it's worth getting 4 over 3 and patching it? I know 3 needs some fixes for the UI on modern PCs doesn't it? Also has that big wolves mod
>>320959468
4 is great
It's like SH3 with better graphics. Really recommend it. With mods you can even play as germans in ATO, so it's basically like an upgraded SH3.
Haven't played SH5, but from what I've heard it's pretty buggy, with few boats available and scripted missions. As someone who just loves wandering around ocean, looking for random enemy ships this is a big letdown for me.
because war thunder is shit
>>320950405
bait
>>320959778
What mods are you guys talking about for 4? 4 is Wolves of the Pacific, right?
>>320959489
Is there a mod for 4 where i can play as japan?
>>320959889
Basically SH 4 is about american subs in Pacific.
U Boat Missions is about german subs in Indian Ocean.
There is a mod called Operation Monsoon (you can get it from subsim.com) which lets you play as Germans in Atlantic from 1939 to 1945. It's really great. Lots of boats available too. And gets really difficult from 1942 onwards (as it should be). I've never managed to survive a campaign in it.
>>320951003
Armor is useless at max tier and the leopard fires more than twice as fast.
>>320959826
Pls
WT might be heading into shitter
But WoT is the undisputed King of Filth on worlds biggest dung pile.
WT may be a bit shit, but they still always have the best April Fools events
>>320959967
I don't think so, since Japanese subs weren't really trained for attacking merchant shipping but instead working together with the main fleet.
>>320954069
Yeah, they use HP. I agree, I like seeing the documentary like xray cutouts of shell impacts. Also improves the tension, except for when you get one-shotted across the map.
>>320959967
There's a mod that adds a few Japanese subs, yeah. Only tried it once and didn't really like it all that much, because it uses the same campaign missions as the U-Boat missions addon.
Can't post the link because >Our system thinks your post is spam.
>>320950735
I picked Russian tanks too, but i didn't know they were over powered. I simply like T-34s.
Russian tanks are not overpowered. The game is scripted to give them less internal damage with APCR, APDS and HEAT.
>>320960542
I picked Russian tanks and when I got bored switched to US
the enjoyment literally died
in Russian tanks I could just trade frontal shots and usually win, but in US and Germs I instantly die
equally, in other tanks it takes usually 2-3 shots to kill a ruskie wheras ruskies usually one shot kill you or do so much damage you might as well be dead
>>320960835
>Not overpowered
>we just BALANS)))))) them to be less destructible
>DIESEL))))))))
>>320960948
That's because, would you look at that, each nation has a different recommended playstyle.
>>320960353
Yeah I sure did like that one MLP event. Fuck right off.
We need an Ace Combat of tanks.
>leans more to action than sim but with an 'authentic' feel
>set in a not-quite-real world with some fluff that allows for wars featuring large scale offensives without the MAD
>allows designs based on existing tanks but with some artistic licence (end-tier tanks with maser cannons/rail guns, super weapons, etc)
>have an interesting story
>customisable tanks
>team mates you can order around
That would be rad.
>>320961164
See, they're great. They piss off autists like you
>>320961085
>russian recommended strategy
>full forward to Berlin
>nazi recommended strategy
>full reverse and avoid eye contact
>>320961164
Suck my balls, the World of Tanks parody was spectacular.
>>320961347
and the mechs which had cool designs
>>320961330
Russfags pls go.
>russians can't hit anything more than 50 metres away
>germans one hit kill everyone at any range
This thread turned to /k/ pretty fast
>>320961347
You mean what they are doing now with spotting system?
>>320961434
What are you talking about?
https://youtu.be/_aeX1xg1wuQ?t=34
>>320961434
The spotting system changed literally nothing in the game.
>>320961418
Russian players are drunk for realism.
German can kill anyone inside the tank but need to head shot all crew one by one to make it combat incapable.
>>320954069
Yeah and even if you like HP, Armored Warfare does it better.
>>320961605
Fuck off arcade casual. I only need one APCR at your ammo rack.
>>320961534
Gaijin please
>>320961641
>Armored Warfare does it better.
Can't wait to fight the new Russian Armata with tanks from the 70s!
>>320961347
I'll admit, the mechs were fantastic. But that's just about it.And I still do have a boner for them.
>>320961431
It's kinda what happens when real weapons, no matter if they are implemented realistically or not, are the center of the discussion of the topic of a thread.
>>320955627
>>320954921
>>320954546
>Garbage in randoms since as soon as you fire your first shot everyone in the enemy team will load HE and rape you in two seconds. If you manage to not die immediately you can rest assured every piece of skycancer is salivating over you.
>Useless in clan wars/stronholds because its too slow and has less DPM than AMX 50 B
I know WoT is shit but you have to be a literal 12 year old to be scared of this xp pinata.
woah....so...this...is...the...power...of....pee..cee.
>>320954921
*turret with paper armor
If I don't fancy flight sims and WT has given me a taste for WWII dogfighting, do I have any good options?
Don't have a joystick so I'm going to fare poorly in any realistic games, but purely arcade flight is pretty boring for dogfighting.
>tanks
AHAHAHAHAH
>>320964381
>Playing WT for planes when there are much better flight games out there
At least Tank players have even a weak excuse of there not being many tank games out there. Especially Multiplayer ones
>2016 - 8
>playing Grind Thunder
>>320964579
RB mode for planes actually fill a very, VERY niche but tight little role, though. It stands right in the middle ground between simulator-ey and arcadey flight games.
It's not without appeal - Hell, RB is basically the field where Gaijin has concentrated most of their collective efforts on, as far as plen modes go.
You could make the argument that by standing in the middle ground, it benefits from the upsides of neither genres (arcadey flight games and flight simulators as I said), while suffering from the downsides of both of them. But hey, just food for thought, I guess.
>>320961179
This set around a fictionalised version of the Fulda Gap would be immense
>not playing tier 1 exclusively and raping everything with mobile AA
>>320965526
This. Once in a while I play gepard and rape everything I see.
>>320965424
>>320961179
It'd be rad as fuck to duke it out with a railgun-equipped superheavy tank with just a T-62 or something.
>>320963536
You have fuck-all, if any, options; and none that I can think of.
I think something that nobody realizes that WT stands in the absolute middle ground between simulator and arcadey stuff. It's very unique in that aspect, and that part of it is rather underappreciated. What a fucking hsame that the game itself is utter fucking garbage, though.
>>320966147
I'd rather not cope up with the rampant shitposting and petty-ass memes, thank you.
>>320966147
Fuck off. /wtg/ is one of the countless "We hate this game but play it and bitch about it and then bitch about nobody people we've made into celebrities"
>>320966147
You're really so bored of wallowing in your own shit, you're inviting /v/tards in to change the flavour of the wallow?
>>320950735
I main Germany.
Just get better.
Russians/anyone can't do shit Against a Fw 190 if you're skilled enough.
The only opponent you'll find will be those pesky I-16.
>>320966602
>The only opponent you'll find will be those pesky I-16.
>not Yak-3's
>not La's past the 5
nigga Ishaks are the least scary thing out there
>>320966602
>what are literally any Yak after 1 and 7
>what are any Lalas after La-5F
>>320965424
>>320966271
Cool ideas. Maybe you can upgrade chassis or purchase new ones.
There definitely has to be a playable Panhard/wheeled AFV, trading defence for speed. And then you can fit an oversized position cannon or something dumb to it at endgame.
I'm imagining like a mix of 'Ace Combat with tanks' and 'Armored Core with tanks'. Lots of parts and customisation.
>>320954851
>I just want to be able to play as an A-10
Got some good news for you, friendo.
http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/
>>320968094
>trading defence for speed
Rather than killing yourself slowly by trying to drive over 2mph, why not just J out at the start of the match?
For those who play GF, do you play AB or RB? I do pretty averagely on AB (50% WR, 3:1 KDR) but I'm getting real sick of getting shot at the instant my cupola sticks out of the trench.
>>320968459
>playing AB ever
RB is a necessary evil now that SB has been gutted
>>320961179
I remember playing a tank game with super deformed graphics in PS2. It was childish but fun. It had lots of tanks from cold war era and beyond.
>>320968673
Isn't RB development being shafted in favour of AB?
>>320968361
Ooh, this looks interest--
>Have to download 14gb of seperated files and manually combine them to install
Man I don't exactly like Steam's dominance over the PC gaming scene but holy shit I forgot this is what it's like without it, what the fuck man
>>320968786
Yeah, gaijin is hellbent on transforming GF into WoT
>>320968361
>>320968832
And then the instant I post I scroll down and see the "download as torrent" link tucked underneath all that
but STILL
>>320968094
Ehhhhh I've always been very 50/50 on all-speed-no-armor tanks in general. You'd need some seriously clever map or game design if you want to make them ever-so-slightly viable.
But yeah, I really want that to happen. God I've always been CRAVING for tank-focused games in general, why are there so few of them.
Also, Obyekt 279 has to be in such a game. It simply HAS to be in.
>>320969013
>add more slopes
>>320969109
Well I like my girls curvy ;^)
It was designed to survive a nuclear blast, quite literally, and keep on rolling after it. The slopes directed the blastwaves to elsewhere, and adding additional pylons and tracks mean it can go practically anywhere it wants to.
>>320950931
>brits
>better armor than slavs
>church and 3in gc can be 1shot by tier 1s
>tier 3 church can be 1shot by tier 2s
>better than russians ever
LITERALLY HASENT PLAYED THE GAME YET
>>320968709
I played the exact game you're thinking of but a couple of years ago. Search & Destroy, or Shin Combat Choro Q in Japan.
Fun game, bizarre though. Tons of different real life tanks/TDs/SPGs, superdeformed, from WW1 to modern day. Then you could fit them with missile launchers or barrel-mounted chainsaws or fucking wings. And there were no actual people in the world, it was literally populated with sentient IFVs.
Great game. Maybe a bit too simple in some aspects but really fun. Weird mix of action game and RPG.
>>320969653
I grew up with this game
It had so much content
>>320969525
My T-34 can't penetrate a Cromwell (which has a BR of 3.3) at all from the front and I need to be within 100m to pen the side armor. Maybe you should play the game buddy.
>>320969986
Yeah, for what it looks like it's actually huge and pretty deep.
>alternating story routes
>secret missions
>tank upgrade system with tons of parts
And I can't get over the fact that there's a gypsy UGC in one of the towns that tells your fortune.
>>320969653
holy shit.
I played and loved this game.
The customization got crazy and having a world populated by tanks was great.
>>320969330
In WT, it would literally be invincible because every square inch is memeslope or rounded))
>>320970295
oh look, a slavaboo who's mad there's a single tank in the game he can't vaporize with his gaijin brand stalin's fist cannon.
>>320972228
xaxaxaxa, russian engineering prevails once again))))))
>>320963536
I played IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 with no joystick, just gamepad and I did pretty ok.
Just don't play MP and you should be fine.
IL-2 has shitload of content, so that should keep you occupied for a while.
>>320968832
>>320968984
At least go watch some vids on YT or something to understand just how awesome this game is. I know the download sucks, but damn look at what you're getting.
>>320972472
You seem pretty upset from what you posted. I main German tanks and aircraft I only started using Russian tanks because they're the only tanks that have a fighting chance against the over powered Brits.
>release new tanks
>make them overpowered
>player base whines about them being overpowered
>nerf them to shit
>meanwhile make undocumented buffs to russian tanks
>???
>PROFIT
They did it to USA and now they'll do it to brits
