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Another one bites the dust
Guy who did the de-censor patch for the first one says they're more than willing to do one for Second when it comes out if need be, so I'm not too fussed.
>Not censored second
One job
who cares really m8
>>317463820
Such a thing exists?
Did they change the ages back too?
>removes delicious brown skin
>removes the qt braid
>changes the facial paint for some reason
What the fuck nintendo
>>317463429
>>317463332
2 minute interval, what is your problem, OP?
>>317463970
the delicious brown is who you get the job from, the pale is a different character using the job, the shitty cowboy is said character using the same job but censored
I know censoring is horrible, inhuman, etc...
But I like that cowboy outfit.
>>317463820
As in he put in the original non censored model and didn't have to retexture? If so that sounds okay..
I've accepted censorship, why can't you guys do the same?
>>317463960
>>317464091
Just seems to be a straightforward model replace, but we get Ringabel in his true glory, so I'm happy.
>>317464173
Because I'm not an idiot. Nintendo a shit.
>>317464173
Why did you accept censorship might be a more appropriate question.
>>317464173
This.
It's not as if it's gonna dissappear anytime near soon, nor will your complaints accomplish anything.
Just learn moon and leave the rest to rot.
>>317463429
So they are changing the whole class and its abilities for western release?
>people care about this
>>317464591
>Just learn moon
No thanks.
>>317464665
this, censorship is a dumb fucking meme by now
>>317464591
>nor will your complaints accomplish anything.
Not complaining won't make changes either even though I get what you mean.
>>317464591
I can't learn japanese
>>317464068
>GG
>coordinating thread spam
>shooping proof
pick 3.
>>317463429
Does decent 3DS emulation on PC exist now?
Didn't follow it for quite a while.
>>317463429
jokes on them, that makes it hotter
Wait, they gave the indian chick a cowboy hat?
>>317465224
And made her white.
>>317463429
>cowboys killed Indians
>they actually made it more offensive
>>317463429
is there a beastmaster type job in bravely second?
>>317463429
It's OK if Nintendo does it.
HELLO I AM A PRO-CENSORSHIP FAGGOT AND THINK EVERYONE NEEDS THEIR THOUGHTS POLICED.
CHANGING A BROWN INDIAN GIRL INTO A WHITE COWGIRL WILL SURELY APPEASE THE SJW, THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT, RIGHT?
>>317464756
Here we go! The cocksucking train just pulled into station and the faggots are getting off!
>W-who cares? I'm okay with my games being shit on.. thank you daddy nintendo..
>>317465610
you mean square
http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/ask/ht/576/cp/599
It's time.
>>317465301
She was already white. The brown girl is a different character.
OP's pic is showing the costume change.
>>317465946
They made her white.
>>317465776
These two are the same character.
They didn't just make her white, they made her white AND BLONDE
>>317463429
what's different?
>>317465776
Your post is ironic r-right? No one can be that stupid.
>>317465394
Yeah that is kinda poorly conceived considering that.
>>317465224
>>317465301
I don't know what's what anymore. So they are trying to prevent to come off as racist by being more racist?
If true than this is gold.
>>317464068
You've to wait 10 minutes before you can make another thread.
to be fair the color change from the in game screenshot could be from lighting effects
she does have a big glowing orb infront of her face after all
>>317463429
Thankfully its game that I couldn't give a shit about.
>design change on the hair and skin colour
>censorship
Is censorship the new meme on this board?
>>317465301
And from the look of it a 'stars and stripes' top.
>>317466248
It's the time honored tradition of pretending not to be racist by ignoring the problem.
Funny how nobody cares about censorship until Nintendo does it.
>>317465776
That's the same girl with the same skin color. It's different on the right because of the spell effect and screenshot quality.
With your logic her skin color is actually a shade of blue according to pic related.
>>317466397
The characters on the right and in the middle are two different characters. The left one is the girl you get the class from, and the middle is how the class looks on one of your characters in Japan. The right is how that same costume in the middle looks in America.
>>317463429
And you were surprised about this -- why?
There were censorship changes to the original Bravely Default as well. Is this a slow day and you're just looking for something to whine about?
>>317466653
On the left and in the middle are two different characters*
>>317466603
You can see her skin tone through the spell.
By contrast. Her fucking hair is now a yellow-blonde and her side is still the same color as her arms and shoulders.
That's because they're the same skin tone. The pigmenting on her model changed. Stop making up excuses.
>>317466653
Okay so they let you wear different hats.
What's the fucking censorship?
>>317466685
>There were censorship changes to the original Bravely Default as well.
That makes this better, how?
>>317466397
They changed a indian girl into a cowboy you mongloid.
>>317466815
If this were true. I would be ecstatic, amazed even.
But let's be fair. You know, and I know that this isn't true. They changed the indian into a cowgirl.
>>317466743
You're comparing a raw model on a black background to a in-game model affected by ambient lightning. Of course they won't have the same color you twat.
Why does NoA do it?
Do they really think a single sale will be because of something they removed? Versus all the sales they lose for doing it?
I just don't understand the incompetence required to make such unpopular decisions.
Is it still called tomahawk or did they censor that too for being a weapon of native american origin?
>>317466743
My screenshot is from the same exact source as the cowboy picture. Her skin and hair color changed because of the spell effects and lighting.
Feel free to look at any other screenshot listed here http://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/bravely-second-end-layer-will-get-a-collectors-edition-in-europe/
They all show the same characters with slightly different pigments due to the lighting.
>>317466872
Good job answering my question
>>317466979
>>317466930
it's pretty racist to say that people are indians just because they're wearing a headdress to be quite honest my family
>>317467005
>>317467139
>Hair is blonde
>Skin tone is different on places where shading isn't present
>tattoos are missing (proving that they edited the model)
Any more excuses you want to make, or are you guys still recovering from that beatdown that was given to you last thread?
>>317466518
Nobody but Nintendo does it.
Sony isn't censoring my weeb panty quest PS4 games. Squeenix isn't doing it. It's only Nintendo.
And even if someone else did, only Nintendo has shitty region locking so I can't import.
>people blaming Nintendo for censoring
>its not even made or localised by Nintendo
>>317467020
With the current way it's going, the class will be renamed 'spear' and she'll be clad in full clown armor for the release.
>>317467141
1/10 try harder senpai.
>>317467010
It's literally because weak faggots have convinced Nintendo their employment is not only relevant, but a necessity when nothing could be further than the truth.
All they do is cost money, waste time and cut and change content. They need to be booted out.
>>317467216
>not region freeing your 3DS
>2015
You have literally no excuse when there's half a dozen different methods on how to do it.
>>317467201
Her hair is still white but is given a yellow hue because of the lighting. Did you never notice how everything has a red/orange hue when it's dawn/dusk?
Feels good being on the right side of history, ahhhhh. :)
>>317467431
I have never bought 999 nor Virtue's Last Reward because I know my money would be going to this fuck.
>>317465776
Assuming that you are not shitposting, don't try pushing this angle. While true, it makes the whole point seem ridiculous and grasping at straws. Just stick to the point about clothes and hat.
>>317467383
>It's the lighting, tho
her hair is blonde now. Full stop. They've turned an indian into a white cowboy.
>>317467216
other people are censoring weeb panty Vita and PS4 games, it's just that NISA and IFI have been complete fucking shit for years so it's not really surprising or as major as NoA's recent shit
>>317463429
It isn't even upsetting anymore, just pathetic
>>317463429
Nobody gives a shit about your censorship, you fucking autists.
Also, the first game was barely passable garbage.
>>317467290
I'm not trolling you nig nog.
Trying coming up with an actual response over BAWWWWWW THEY CHANGED A HAT 0/10 NINTENDO RUINED ANOTHER GAME
>>317467487
>While true, it makes the whole point seem ridiculous and grasping at straws.
No it doesn't, it's a legitimately dumb change.
>>317464223
How do you apply this to the game? You'd need homebrew obviously, but where do you go from there?
BASED NOA
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>>317467674
>Square game
>square localisation
>Blames NOA
Epic
>>317467487
I do agree, but I can't judge the cowboy clothes yet. I haven't really seen them.
>>317467582
>>317464149
I just got Bingo.
>>317467660
Yes it does. See how people are shitting on your angle rather than discussing the more blatant changes? You're not helping the topic.
I understand that you don't want to hold punches, but it's not good to play your entire hand right away.
>>317467738
Not blaming anyone, but people always cry about NOA
If Square is behind this, then all the better. More companies making life shit for weebs is what we need.
Is gaming really fucked? Will it really be ruined by this SJW garbage forever?
>>317467805
>See how people are shitting on your angle
I'm not that guy, that was my first post in the thread. I'm just pointing out that it's a valid criticism.
>I understand that you don't want to hold punches, but it's not good to play your entire hand right away.
What the fuck are you talking about? "Hold punches", "entire hand"?
>>317467802
Damn you have to be asswrecked to create a fucking bingo for this
>>317467891
Nintendo, maybe.
No one else seems to give a shit except them.
I can buy Eroges on PSPlus right now.
>>317467619
Do you really not see the implications in changing a native american into a fucking cowboy, costume or not? Let alone the irony.
Who are they trying not to offend with that. Can't be the Indians for sure.
>>317467487
>don't try pushing this angle
Sliders are trying to convince people to not push this angle.
That means push it as hard as you can.
>>317463429
>every Nintendo game is changed because there is no longer any confidence adults will not be triggered into a rage by images
>every other Jap game is dubed with the same 5 trash VAs and no DA
Fuck it time to just learn Japanese.
>>317467858
>come to the largest English speaking Japanese media discussion forum on the internet
>hate anything Japanese
>doesn't even know the proper definition of weeaboo
Just end your life. Nobody will miss you. I'm sure a few people would actually be happy.
>>317467141
It's also pretty racist to replace people dressed like Native Americans with people dressed like the group that slaughtered them.
>>317467993
>What the fuck are you talking about? "Hold punches", "entire hand"?
Rather than gathering everything about this case and going about it at once, it's better to first focus on one thing, and when it actually has people's attention as legit thing, then you can bring up other points.
Going on about everything at once results in people criticizing censorship seem like idiots who'll latch onto everything.
>>317468128
No, that's not what this is about at all. I want people to take notice of this, but at this rate it won't work at all.
>>317467287
But tomahawk's are axes.
Or is that part of the joke?
>>317468458
>IT WON'T WORK SHUT UP STOP TALKING
You already dropped the hint, go tell your tumblr friends that you failed to tone police and that you're sorry.
>>317468089
>changing a native american into a fucking cowboy,
Again you fucking dipshit, changing a headdress into a cowboy hat doesn't change them from an Indian into a white American.
That's like saying changing a dude from holding a spear to holding a bottle of vodka changes them from an African into a Russian.
Incidently the Tomahawk class has only an A rank in axes and a S rank in guns. Wierd design choice.
>>317468253
>hate anything Japanese
I don't. I just don't gobble up shit thats reserved for the lowest common denominator types in Japan.
Yeah uh who gives a shit
>>317468620
Read the whole sentence, retard.
>>317468089
jesus fucking christ dude get your head out of your ass
>>317468669
>Square Enix
>most popular RPG company in the world
>lowest common denominator
>>317468592
Jesus Anon, there are not only two sides to this thing. You need to calm down and think about what will work.
>>317468620
In media tribal clothes and feather headdresses are generally associated with native americans, while more generic leather clothes and cowboy hats are associated with cowboys.
Your example of African into Russian would work if they changed dark skinned character with spear and tribal clothes into pale skinned character in track-suit with bottle of vodka.
Oh no I can't see Japan San's true vision! This game is shit! I need polygon fan service or it's shit!
>>317468746
I wish americans would do that. What's so problematic about an indian costume all of the sudden?
>>317468741
PROVE THAT THEY'VE CHANGED A NATIVE INDIAN INTO A WHITE AMERICAN FUCKTARD.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN IT'S A GAME WHICH DOESN'T FUCKING HAVE A UNITED STATES TO EVEN GET INDIANS OR COWBOYS FROM CHUCKLEFUCK
>>317468863
>people have to obey to sterotypes because they're portrayed in the media
no
>>317468825
blatant, unnecessary fanservice you fucking retard.
>>317469009
Fanservice is never unnecessary.
>>317468893
This is what Japanese games has come to.
Autists going apeshit about missing fanservice..
Oh how the mighty has fallen.
>A little bit less nudity on a 12-year-old
How much of a freak do you actually have to be to give a shit?
>>317468961
>PROVE THAT THEY'VE CHANGED A NATIVE INDIAN INTO A WHITE AMERICAN FUCKTARD.
With your poor reading comprehension I fear I can't explain you anything.
>>317469080
Thanks for proving my point.
>>317464665
pedoNEETs do
>>317469159
I don't think she's twelve?
How stupid were they to put a racial stereotype in the game in the first place?
>>317468961
Jesus Christ. You're really fucking retarded.
>>317469080
>this is what virgins actually believe
>>317469159
What the fuck are you talking about? There is as much bare skin as in the jap verion.
If Shadow Hearts 3 came out today it would cause a shitstorm wouldn't it?
why the fuck did they replace the indian motif with a cowboy one
>>317469347
absolutely every popular game discussed here causes a shitstorm
people here enjoy more shitposting than actually playing games
>>317469247
>How stupid were they to put a racial stereotype in the game in the first place?
>any minority representation I don't like is a "racial stereotype" and should be removed
>any character that looks like it's clearly from a certain ethnicity or nationality is a "racial stereotype"
Literally tumblr.
>>317463429
From what I can see:
>shitty cowboy hat instead of indian feathers
>no body paint
Man, they could have given the Tomahawk class a brown reskin. Pale skin does not go well with the tomahawk class.
>>317469183
>Do you really not see the implications in changing a native american into a fucking cowboy, costume or not?
But they haven't
Changing someone from using a crossbow into using hand lasers isn't changing an indian into a cowboy.
>>317463429
As if anyone gives a shit about some ugly N64-tier models.
If it was the other way round you autists would be screaming just as much.
Thanks USA.
First was JAV, now JRPG.
>Native American wielding a fucking rifle
Thank god NoA took notice of this retarded concept and replaced it by a cowboy, ie someone who ACTUALLY wields rifles.
>>317467480
What company is he with?
>>317469443
The owner of the Washington Redskins would like a word with you.
So would Adidas & a shitton of High School Mascots.
America is going full Thin-Skinned Muh Feelings.
I'm glad they make this changes, if only because it makes all you mad
Square obviously did this to STOP a backlash from SJWs not because the people that did it are SJWs.
Look at that fucking white chick that dressed as Pocahontas for Halloween and you'll see the exact reaction they are trying to avoid
Picture the Fat cunt Hernandez Kotaku article "Bravely Default 2's Indian outfits culture appropriation is problematic"
>>317469692
no one would be screaming if they made her outfit more lewd, are you retarded
>>317470171
Natives also used Rifles, and would frequently barter/trade for them
>>317470171
>got his native American knowledge from John Wayne movies
Cultural chauvinist SJWs in charge of trying to prevent the spread of any culture but their own.
>>317470459
>STOP a backlash from SJWs not because the people that did it are SJWs.
So it's okay for them to do what SJWs want because... they aren't SJWs? What?
>niche title isn't selling well
>it must be because its too offensive/racy
>censor it
>niche title isn't selling well
>it must be because its too offensive/racy
>censor it further
>niche title isn't selling at all
>it must not have an audience anymore
>>317470713
Preemptively changing shit to stop a ton of negative press is probably their priority.
They likely don't give a fuck a costume is changed as much as a bunch of neckbeards do.
>>317470509
>Brown character with 5 polygons is lewd
lol
>>317470834
There would be no negative press, and even when there is controversy it only helps sales usually (see Dragon's Crown). It's a stupid move either way.
You assholes only care about censorship when it's a woman being covered up.
Meanwhile localizations are removing actual content or changing scripts just because.
Fuck you for pretending to care.
>>317470971
>there would be no negative press
Imfuckingplying
>>317471016
>censorship when it's a woman being covered up.
That's because it's what gets censored 90% of the times. People do complain about other localization changes.
>>317471016
>says this
>in a bravely default thread
>when people got upset in BD 1 when one of the main male characters thong outfit was censored
Kek
>>317471094
It's true. There are plenty of games with characters like this, and no one cares in most cases especially for niche games. It's usually only a few high-profile cases (Quiet in MGS5, Cidney if FF15, Sorceress from DC that get singled out).
>>317469692
>>317470509
Any changes like this are unnecessary. Why waste man hours in changing perfectly functional character models for localization? Use that time to work on other aspects of the game, or work on other games.
I thought NoA was inept, but this is too much.
They took a Native American girl and changed her into a cowboy, the people who hunted down and killed most of the Native American population.
I can't tell if this is ironic or sheer stupidity at this moment, we'll just have to wait and see what else gets censored from Bravely Default.
Give me one good reason to care.
No, "all censorship is bad" isn't a good reason. Give me a reason to care about this specific instance
>>317471117
>That's because it's what gets censored 90% of the times
No, it's because it's the only one people notice.
Whenever I some post a screencap of something that was changed or some DYKG article or whatever that talks about censorship of a game 5 years ago, most people just go "Oh well, censorship sucks" but never when it actual comes out.
Nothing else reaches the level of shitstorm that stupid outfits on woman reach, everything else is hardly acknowledged because it's apparently less important.
NISA cut out most of the features from a level editor in Disgaea 4, and most people complained, but moved on.
Then when they edited a loli bathing game, suddenly people start arguing with the creators over Twitter and bringing up legal documents.
>>317471313
A quick model change => Hundred of soccer moms who won't refuse to buy the game for their kids because it has women in skimpy clothes in it.
It's worth it I guess.
You nerds realise that an uncensored version will be patched the same day of release right?
>>317471489
Give me a reason that your life has any value to society. You'll have to come up with something pretty good, since you've just demonstrated that you oppose the existence of art and therefore are starting at a severe negative value.
>>317470971
I'm not interested in this garbage argument, but surely you must understand that a niche title like dragon's crown has different marketing goals than a game like bravely which is meant to have mass appeal
>>317463429
Glad I pirate everything on my 3DS.
>>317471614
Censorship is also a form of art pyon
>>317471515
>Hundred of soccer moms who won't refuse to buy the game for their kids because it has women in skimpy clothes in it.
Yeah... no. Maybe like 50 helicopter moms in the world do enough research to notice if a game like this has skimpy clothes or not. Of those 50, maybe 3 of them would actually let their kid buy the game upon seeing that it was censored.
So that's 3 sales versus probably hundreds of lost sales from pissed off nerds and bad press from controversy.
>>317471395
I for one will be boycotting all Nintendo products until this is rectified. I feel outraged on behalf of our native american friends.
>>317471639
>bravely which is meant to have mass appeal
What? It doesn't have any sniper rifles or American military in it, does it?
>>317471016
Most people can't see that process happening because they can't read/speak fucking japanese or other languages. You are in a very small minority.
>>317471513
It's just another easy shitposting topic. Some people are bored and lonely and baiting people into responding makes them feel like they're really interacting with people
>>317471639
Bravely Default is a very niche series for people who like old-school RPGs on handhelds. The first game was less successful than Dragon's Crown both in Japan and America, and Bravely Second will sell less than the first game. It will never have mass appeal, and it's not meant to.
>replacing indians with cowboys
might as well replace jews with nazis
>>317471395
>NoA
Epic
>man we can't have this native american costume it's offensive
>let's change it to a cowboy!
Further proof that the SJW crowd really just don't want non-American cultures spreading.
>>317471515
What fucking kids are buying Bravely Second? And you're seriously, seriously thinking soccer moms are the ones complaining about this shit in the age where the vast majority of children are playing GTA and Call of Duty on the systems said soccer moms bought for them.
>>317471876
>NISA cut out most of the features from a level editor in Disgaea 4, and most people complained, but moved on.
Which is what they're doing when something gets like that.
There's a difference between making slight changes in localization and all the censorship we've seen lately.
I don't even know what you're talking abour with legal documents and whatnot.
>>317463429
SE strikes again.
Fuck them and Nintendo.
guys guys guys what the fuck?
so a new game for the nintendo has a scene where i'm NAKED. alright. the japanese version is what i'm talking about.
the american one has it too but i'm NOT naked... why would fucking NoA censor pixels?? what the hell is this madness? are they dumb?
The lighter-skinned one is the prepromotion.
You're all fucking idiots.
You're also fucking idiots for thinking that buying Bravely Second is a good idea. Wasn't BD a good enough warning that they're bad at making RPGs still?
>>317472061
This is clearly the work of SJWs, they must have a time machine
>>317472061
Great post, friend. You sure showed those censor fags
It's actually about ethics in localization policy. I swear.
I-I'm not a pedophile
>>317472061
>if this game released today it would be boycotted by man children on /v/
>every single thread discussing it would be about censorship
Fucking top kek
>>317472090
Fuck off, retard.
>>317472090
>Implying BD was bad
BD would've been perfect if it wasn't for the shitty recycled chapters and it's been confirmed that BS didn't reiterate this mistake.
>>317472163
>20 year old character
>pedophile
Shitposters are a fucking plague.
>>317472191
Hah, that's cute that you think the people stirring up shit play the games they're complaining about.
>>317472161
thanks for the ebin response :^)you're just digging your grave further
What if it's 2 completely different outfits?
>>317471969
>soccer moms
They only care about sex or sexual references.
If a game is violent, or has violent themes, the average American parent could give a rat's ass what they're exposing their children to. The situation is opposite in Europe, with particularly the German government's hardline view on violence, while it's best of both worlds in Japan and the worst of both in Australia.
It's a cultural thing; don't try to understand why things are as they are, because you'll only strain yourself trying to comprehend the illogical.
If we lived in a logical society Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft would permit the licensing of Adults Only-rated games, clerks would request ID for mature titles when purchasing video games, and buying MA15+ games for children would be be met with a fine and jail time.
I really don't give a shit about the censorship. I mean, I don't like it but it's definitely not a deal-breaker.
Are these games any good? Was looking into Bravely Default because I was feeling some classic Final Fantasy. Will this actually scratch that itch?
>>317472459
Bravely Default is 100% classic Final Fantasy complete with world map, save the world plot and job system.
How do we know this isn't just an added costume instead of a replacement?
This is the unwarranted self importance of autistic weeb NEETs who are furious because their tiny, poorfag, pirating demographic is not relevant and is being phased out.
They spew whatever buzzwords their 70 IQ minds can think of to make it sound horrible but they are impotent losers in life who will lose 9 times out of 10 because they have no influence or relevance.
They want a multi-billion dollar company to make retarded business decisions to pander to their autistic demands or they'll throw a shitposting tantrum on 4chan
Just sit back and laugh at them / bait them, they have no real arguments only buzzwords and vitrol about their impotence.
>>317472283
>she's 10000000000 years old in muh canon
>JUST IGNORE THE FACT SHE LOOKS LIKE A KID
MY
FUCKING
SIDES
>>317472437
GTA is the game where you get lapdances from hookers and then proceed to bring them home for a fuck. Yet it's still wildly popular among American children, who are too young to buy the game themselves. I wonder how that happens.
>>317472061
Are you really retarded enough to think that an example of censorship from the past means that we have to accept censorship in the present?
Well the original's racist, so...
>>317472662
wew lad
Have you ever seen a kid with godly hips like these?
>>317472593
>>317472593
>muh buzzwords
Meanwhile in reality: Bravely Default selling a shitton based on weeb NEETs alone despite having a budget of nothing.
But i'm sure SE will care more about some threadshitter who doesn't even play games and doesn't factor into their economic calculations. :^)
>>317472593
>they have no real arguments only buzzwords and vitrol about their impotence.
>his entire post has no argument but buzzwords and vitriol like "autistic" "weeb", "NEETs", "poorfag" "70 IQ"
>if you comment on censorship you're an autist and also a pirate for some reason
Good job goon. You sure convinced me with those hot opinions.
How do we know this isn't just an additional costume and not a costume replacement?
>mfw going to pirate the undub (if no dual like the first game) and decensor
I'm fighting in my own way.
>>317472881
It's just a wild guess. BD didn't have any job-specific costumes and the neither did the japanese version of BS.
>>317472876
Nice arguments
>REE don't call a spade a spade it's totally not autistic weeb pedophile NEETs that are only mad about this
Nobody outside this meme and shitposting board cares, kiddo
>>317469330
Look closer. The skirt is gone, it's all pants now. The g-string is removed too.
>>317463429
>/v/ complains about cesnoring
>its pedobait
every fucking time
>>317472701
Yes, because this is not a "IT'S 2015, COME OOON, YOU ARE STILL X" argument, but a "Why did you start to do X?" when it wasn't.
whats so different besides the head wear?
>>317473117
>clearly chibi style
>pedobait
I wish I'd never have to see shit like this. It just makes me sad that these types of people are the common on here
>>317473046
>literally making the same posts in multiple threads at the same time: >>317473075
>Nice arguments
You didn't even have any arguments to counter to begin with.
>Please accept censorship because multi-mllion dollar company and autism and pirates and poorfags and other buzzwords
>/v/ complains about censorship
>they don't even know anything about the game they're complaining about
>>317473301
>REEE PANDER TO ME OR IT'S CENSORSHIP
>"No, fuck off you aren't relevant"
weebNEETs blown the fuck out
>>317473232
>clearly chibi style
sure, whatever makes you sleep at night pal
>>317473232
>i-it's not pedo it's this other specalh snowflaek version of pedo
>>317473165
Absolutely nothing.
>>317473453
so people are just bitching about a hat?
it would make sense for the bitching if the midriff got censored
>>317473232
Some words lost their meaning long time ago, everything now is just buzzwords.
>>317473417
>>317473437
Tone down the shitposting lads or you'll get a sore butt.
>>317473539
They're bitching to bitch.
>>317463429
Fuck yes, can you fucktards please poison Bravely Second threads now instead of our comfy Xenoblade threads?
Every single complaint about ""censorship"" you will NEVER find outside of 4chan
Because all it is removing some creepy cringe pedophile shit by choice because that shit doesn't sell outside the containment island of Japan.
pedoNEETs on 4chan are INCREDIBLY fucking salty and furious about it, especially as they suffer from Unwarranted Self Importance more than anyone on this meme and shitposting website.
It's also comedy gold because it's a bunch of retarded NEETs trying to tell a Multi Billion Dollar Company How To Do Business.
However they can do nothing but furiously shitpost on 4chan, nobody else cares because everyone recognizes this as pedoshit being removed by choice by a company.
>>317473539
The legs were covered too and the tatoos are lost. Seriously, just what's the point?
>>317473794
>It's also comedy gold because it's a bunch of retarded NEETs trying to tell a Multi Billion Dollar Company How To Do Business.
Lost it there, that's funny as fuck.
>>317473794
You already made that same post like 10 minutes ago. Also these instances of censorship are usually talked about on tons of other sites as well.
>>317473841
Yeah, I don't know how I'll play my RPG if it isn't full of tits.
They should have changed it because it's offensive cultural appriopriation. Just like Yoga.
http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/11/20/free-ottawa-yoga-class-scrapped-over-cultural-issues
>Student leaders have pulled the mat out from 60 University of Ottawa students, ending a free on-campus yoga class over fears the teachings could be seen as a form of "cultural appropriation."
I like how the unique posters number isn't increasing
>>317471016
Were you not here for the whole "Skells" fiasco?
>>317473921
>REEE i want a thread that's a hugbox
oh you mean other sites mocking the pedophiles here?
>>317463429
>Big goofy ass cowboy hat
WHY THOUGH
>>317473794
Pretty much every article I saw about NoA removing XCX's tit slider had people complaining.
>>317472662
>JUST IGNORE THE FACT SHE LOOKS LIKE A KID
you mean exactly like we already do in a majority of the most popularly consumed hardcore pornography involving teenagers, without anyone being called a pedophile? because they don't actually look like kids? because normal people have the ability to distinguish between a physically mature body and that of an actual prepubescent child?
setting aside for a moment the fact that this particular game is using a superdeformed art style only vaguely resembling a realistic human shape in the first place, they STILL use clearly mature female characteristics like fully developed breasts and curved hips.
honestly the only reason I can think of as to why the most radical of mouthbreathing witch-hunt retards get their jimmies so rustled over things like this is because you find *yourselves* attracted to children, and feel guilty and angry at anything that even remotely triggers this attraction.
>>317474001
>>REEE i want a thread that's a hugbox
>stop pointing out how I'm samefagging all over the place
Aren't you the one demanding a hugbox?
>>317463429
At least the Cowboys found one victory this year.
>>317473945
anon he is talking about thighs and tattos not breasts.
>>317473841
they removed those probably because those don't work with cowgirls, but whats the point of the overall change in the first
>>317473951
>According to email correspondence between Scharf and the centre, student leaders debated rebranding the program, but stumbled over how the French translation for "mindful stretching" would appear on a promotional poster, and eventually decided to suspend the program.
So uh
Is this, like, satire?
>>317472662
The only one who thinks she looks like a kid here is you you fucking pedophile. What is it with you sick fucks and not being able to distinguish fiction from reality?
>>317474151
wow m8I kek'd tbqh
>>317463429
Doesn't make any sense to me. Her midriff is still showing, and what the hell is with the cowboy hat?
>>317474198
No, this is the world we live in today.
Every argument about censorship on /v/ boils down to people in charge believing they're fighting for the greater good.
>>317473378
What are you doing with your life lol?
>>317474023
Because indians would raid the nearest fort apparently.
>>317474249
same here
i don't know whats the big deal, compared to xenoblade x
>>317463429
Is the hat part of the edit or is it a trait of the character?
I like the feathers a lot. I'd be real sad if they were removed.
>>317472437
>best of both worlds in Japan
Japan's pretty hard on violence. No More Heroes on Wii had all the blood cut out of its Japanese release (though I believe it was restored in the PS3 version) and they did the same with Until Dawn.
>>317474379
the complete opposite of America
killing and violence>sexy girls
>>317472191
There's not enough shotafags on /v/ to complain about a naked boy being censored.
>>317473581
>Tone down the shitposting lads or I'll get a sore butt.
fixed to be honest ;)
You gotta fight them using their style
Unironically start bitching about how this is destroying native american culture by putting oppressing white cowboys.
Or keep bitching about censorship and having people call you a virgin for some reason.
>>317471016
I agree, NISA hate threads need to return.
>>317474510
Not gonna work, they can counter saying it's redface.
>>317470459
I've honestly never met anyone who actually plays videogames who enjoys kotaku or reads them regularly.
There was a kotaku article on fucking mainstream facebook trending news recently about them, and literally every response and post about it was people bashing on what trashy, shit-stirring "games journalist" website they were and how nobody takes them seriously.
honestly I don't even follow online games journalism, but the general consensus from everything I've seen seems to be that kotaku isn't reputable at all, that they're basically the pander-incarnate of every faux-gaming cluster-B tumblrina who ever watched one of their 30+ tattoo'd ex-boyfriends play halo or call of duty and decided that it made them a gamer too.
Ok, this was expected. Come on, a thong? I just didn't know what they would do. Not that bad though
>yfw gamefaqs moderators support the pro censorship topic and close or delete the anti ones
>>317474624
Found the assblasted pedoNEET
>>317474463
There is plenty of sexy girls in the media in America. Hell, the largest porn industry is in California.
The problem is in sexualizing little girls. Even Japan is changing this in the near future, and the rest of the world has the sense not to feed mental illness in their games. You may pretend to make it about MUH FREEEDOM OF SPEECH, but you know, deep in your sick heart, that is about feeding the worst aspects of your mental illness.
Seek help /v/! Don't become another crime statistic
>>317474620
NISA released Ultra Despair Girls almost completely uncensored though, and there's a note in that game where a mother complains how her 8-year old's pussy is worth more than hers when they whore themselves out and it's not even subtle or lightly implicit.
>>317474219
there's a name for the phenomenon. it's on the tip of my tongue but i just can't remember it. it's like when those anti-gay GOP activists were outed as being hypergay and taking thousands of anonymous dicks in airport bathrooms. people who hate the loudest generally do so because they feel ashamed of those characteristics in themselves.
>>317463820
>mods will fix it
wrong thread, todd.
>>317474770
The joke is that america sexualize actual/non-fictional little girls are the time but in other media.
>>317463429
>keep old outfit = appropriation
>replace old outfit = cultural erasure
there's no winning with this one.
>>317463820
does that work by patching the rom?
>>317464173
I'm no drone.
>>317474770
>everyone who disagrees with censorship of sexual content is a pedophile
Why is this the only argument you can come up with?
Also if you'd seen all the bitching in gaming, comic books and films about this, you'd know that it's not just about "little girls" at all, it's about everything.
>>317475048
>people who hate the loudest generally do so because they feel ashamed of those characteristics in themselves.
The word you are looking for is complete bullshit. It's a meme that the left has been pushing since the 1980s in order to reverse psychology people into supporting their bullshit. They specifically teach it to children because it doesn't work on uninitiated adults.
>u cant criticize us, u must secretly support us lololol
it's literally real life green text.
>>317470213
He's a freelancer. Will work for whoever pays him.
>>317475048
I think it's just called projecting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
>>317474365
Yea the original model on the left is actually very pretty. if they were going to censor it at all, i would have thought they'd make her skirt longer or something, not completely change how the model looks out of some laughably misguided fear of culture appropriation.
>>317474770
I didn't know little girls had breast that big and hips like that
>>317463429
Not an issue, remove gators, report the thread.
>>317463429
We just had the same fucking thread not even ten minutes ago.
Don't you have anything better to d-
Oh...of course you don't.
>>317475287
It should be illegal to spread a disease like that.
>Losers getting mad about about censorship even though it has happened for years and years
>Still refuse to barely do anytime about it expect whinge and whine in threads
I am sure those emails will really show em though!
Stay salty.
>>317463429
>Changing one racial stereotype into another is clearly censorship!
Okay?
Reminder of who exactly we are talking to here.
>>317475234
Is it about ethics in gaming journalism as well?
>>317475335
I know you're trying to BTFO him and you're objectively correct but his post is bait and should be ignored. He just wants responses because the attention is good regardless of being positive or not.
>>317463429
>Retarded graphics
>Someone actually used their time to censor that shit
kek
>>317475392
you'er just going to every board on the net and posting aren't you?
NINTENDO DOES IT AGAIN!
>>317475502
I just want to stir some salt
Some boards just aren't filled with enough autists to bite
>>317475425
>Racial stereotype
I don't get it. That's how some tribes looked like and that's how cowboys dressed.
This fear of caricatures is extremely retarded. Americans are dumb. People with common sense obviously are aware not all 100% of a group will fit the stereotype perfectly, but it's still valid regardless.
>Could have just added an Indian t shirt or something
>could have added short shorts and go the pokemon white route
>instead they over haul it with a completely different costume that has nothing to do with the game
That's just laziness right there. Thankfully, I can play jap games thanks to 2 years of non stop Dissidia.
>>317475392
Gamers have no power though.
Emails do nothing, as you said, and if one votes with their wallet publishers either assume either that (if sales are low) there's no interest; so they abandon similar projects in future, or (if sales are high) it was a loud minority whinging; so they pat themselves on the back and stick to their censorship guns.
You cannot win.
>>317475425
They don't know what to bind themselves to anymore, they even faked kotaku article in previous thread just for the sake of bandwagoning their 'censorship'-bullshit.
>>317475458
Great argument. It's almost as good as "you're a pedophile".
>all these dumb autistics competing for who can have thinner skin and be the most offended over trivial dumb shit
this `censorship` meme has turned /v/ into tumblr
>>317475591
>>317475392
good man
>>317475372
>>317475392
>there are people on /v/ who are still mind virgins
>>317472959
The only answer to this shit to be honest. Keep up the good fight anonI'll do the same
>>317475676
>they even faked kotaku article in previous thread
People have been doing this for years just for laughs. It's almost like you're new or something.
>It's offensive to depict native Americans somehow for some reason
>So let's erase them from fiction and history altogether! That's not offensive!
What's the reasoning here? I am not even American. But I know that if the Scandinavian people started to edit out Saami people from fiction, the Saami would go livid.
>>317475392
>implying you could mod the costume back in
>implying anything can be done to sway greedy people from money
I wish people thought things out before they post
>>317475905
>Thinking localisation changes and censorship are done for any reason other then money
Lol are you dumb?
>>317475676
you really are new aren't are you from neogaf or tumblr?
>>317475905
Americans are so afraid to offend they'd rather pretend things never existed.
It's the land of such freedom that when your opinion doesn't fit the mold you're completely ostracized, There's no one to defend you if your thinking isn't the right way of think
>>317475998
>money
And changing Indians to cowboys generates money and profit how?
![[DeadFish] Aku no Hana - 06 [720p][AAC][(024025)17-25-46].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NwJwZUd.jpg "[DeadFish] Aku no Hana - 06 [720p][AAC][(024025)17-25-46]")
>>317475678
How is that not argument exactly?
People playing games to have fun from gameplay.
Paedos playing games to jerk off on lolis and chibis.
Bonus outfits aren't affecting gameplay one bit.
But their changes affecting paedos ability to jerk off on lolis and chibis.
Who's complaining here? Clearly, paedos and shitposters.
Bravely Default was censored as well, sold the same numbers in NA as in Japan, vocal minority is still the minority, so it's not an issue, nobody will hear you and it won't hurt sales, now go, draw some petitions on change.org that won't change shit, since nobody of matter gives a shit about this.
>>317475998
>Thinking localisation changes and censorship are done for any reason other then money
>implying
>>317472959
>if no dual like the first game
BD had dual audio.
>>317475293
probably. it seems obvious now that i see it. i don't know why I couldn't remember it. it's a very common issue, especially when it comes to these kinds of things.
like, the guy in this thread is crying about pedophilia over a character with exaggeratedly mature female sexual characteristics. i don't get it. is it because the design style uses large heads?
>>317475849
easiest fight desu
Only way to lose if we're the only ones doing it. Its why some niche titles have come over to the states because piracy lets them know there is an interest but there is factor stopping the consumer from paying real money.
Oh, Don't get me wrong i'm not making getting free games the way I want it some epik crusade or something but I wan't the best I can get and I want to keep on getting it. If I get a product with my expectations met and I want more I'm going to shell out if not then I'll pirate it like a piece of shit but don't look at me funny when I have a superior product as the developer envisioned while the rest have to deal with a team that feels like they know what you want.
>>317476197
I worded it wrong sorry.
If there is no dual audio like in the first game. Is what I meant.
>>317475998
How? Who wouldn't buy a game because of an indian costume? If it's about money I'd rather say they'll lose a few buyers they pissed off.
>>317472959
>FIrst game had no dual audio
People should at least play the games if they want to discuss them.
>>317476113
>Who's complaining here? Clearly, paedos and shitposters.
People who don't want companies to feel like they have to censor their games when localizing them because they think they should be able to get the original content without arbitrary limitations?
>>317476064
Indians are shit, USA USA USA, gonna buy it, that's how.
>>317476064
>>317476335
Localisation teams are like dodgy mechanics.
A game comes in that needs an easy fix.
But localisation teams make up shit that is apparently problem. They get this huge list of things that need changing and they need bigger pay checks to change them.
The more changes made to a game the more money a localisation team gets, so the teams make up a bunch of lies about stuff that needs changing so they can get more money.
I mean look at this costume, there is literally no reason at all to change it. But if the localisation team says there is, and change it, then they get paid more.
>>317476142
>implying it isn't all lies so localisation jews can't make more dosh
>>317476375
see >>317476375
I pirated so I know but believe whatever you want. Its a decent game so far.
>>317476420
Changing one hat to another is not censoring and happening everytime on every console, grow up kiddie.
If they made a male less scantily clad, would /v/ kick and scream and whine about it for months in one of these 400+ post threads?
No, fuck off you fucking whiny LITERAL children, this is getting worse than fucking gamergate at this rate
>>317463429
THAT'S MY FUCKING FETISH. FF5 SHEVA, NAO
FUCK'A YOU WESTERN GOD PRUDES
>>317463429
are we even sure this is actually censorship of the same class being turned into another? or could this just be two completely different classes and someone combining the pictures to troll the shit out of /v/'s low hanging fruit.
Europe won't have the cowboy over the indian, right?
Europe has no history with either. The change would be nonsensical.
>>317476559
>If game company did something would /v/ kick and scream
Yes
/v/ hates everything, especially video games
>>317476559
Fuck off.
And yes they did with Gunvolt.
>>317476624
Europe turns more and more into USA 2.0, it's utterly horrible.
>>317476624
Indian Road Shows were extremely popular in Europe, they had in their audience the likes of Queen Victoria and the Russian czar in the late nineteenth century.
>>317476064
Controversial articles in gaming blogs with minishitstorms vocal minority generates about it raise people awareness about the product. There is no such thing as bad PR, and since no people who were actually about to buy the game will cancel their pre-order because of this shit - it's all about profit.
>>317476420
>>company will redesign anything to make more money
>>"I don't want them to FEEL like they have to change something"
Don't worry anon. The company will FEEL better when they are able to sell this to more people and their product is not associated with the mentally ill. You should feel happy for them! :D
>>317476559
Are you kidding? I just-off to that shit and I've only fucked women. I love it.
>>317476559
cool strawman, bro. western censorship of male characters would be far less likely to be noticed, sure, but you bet your candy essjaydub asshole it would be just as hated on principle.
I could turn a blind eye to the edits in the first game, but this is kind of annoying.
>>317476560
>THAT'S MY FUCKING FETISH
>we're not jerking to videogames I swear it's all about author's vision!!!
>>317476765
Than I'm happy for VW for all the PR lately.
>White men take country from Indians hundreds of years ago
>White men take a character from Indians now
Whites just never stop.
>>317470171
Native Americans in the old west used modern technology as well, you shit.
>>317476624
That cowboy screenshot is from the European collectors edition.
>>317476765
>They don't want a needless controversy to give them a bad image and less sales, that's why they're censoring it!
>They do want a needless controversy to get more attention and sales, that's why they're censoring it!
Can you make up your mind?
guys I thought the slippery slope wasn't real?
>>317476802
They won't make more money, you're just saying this because you agree with the censorship.
>pedophile
>mentally ill
Any more buzzwords?
>>317476926
Why would a person who likes something should be satisfied when it's taken out?
Regardless if it's only about fapping or the author's vision, a person has all the right to complain, specially because "voting with your wallet" doesn't work and he's labeled a manchild loser just by having a different opinion.
>People complaining about lingerie outfits for pedophiles
>Instead of complaining about the most censored and butchered videogame in history which MGSV is
Why are the only cases of censorship I see posted about on /v/ are ones regarding skimpy clothing?
>>317477124
Kojima being a hack fraud isn't censorship.
>>317477236
This one isn't about skimpy clothing, the character is changed from an indian to a cowboy
>there are retards that still think the females in the op are children
>>317477236
Except for this?
Why do retards storm a thread and aren't even bothered to look at the OP.
>>317476559
Yes. Not even gay, but I like to play as cool and sexy men.
It's an ideal. How is it different from any other ideal?
Being repulsed by attractive men because you can't be them makes about as much sense as being repulsed by attractive women for not being able to get them.
And if you are attractive yourself, then it makes even less sense.
>>317477118
Change what you like, if it has the worst negative social implications. Or are you going to wait until you appear in the news for assaulting a child?
>>317477285
It's not even a character, but an outfit. A class.
>>317477009
>That cowboy screenshot is from the European
No. This can't be true. Can it?
I don't want to believe it!
>>317477285
Let's be honest. If the new clothing were less revealing most of you wouldn't complain, and the rest would only complain just to complain.
>>317477285
This is the "indian" character you fucking sjws are complaining about.
>>317477431
Shitposters in a nutshell.
Who cares?
As long as the game/story isn't affected.
Reminds me of the first game where people were saying that the censoship made the game bad, completely ignoring the whole second half of the game where you do the same damn thing multiple times
BINGO
>>317477285
That's not even what's happening you immense retard
>>317477260
Game was butchered by Konami.
>>317477387
Which is even worse sense it applies to the whole party.
>>317477448
>If the new clothing were less revealing most of you wouldn't complain
Not that guy but yes I would. The cowboy outfit shows off about as much skin to begin with. That's not the problem.
I just don't like cowboys and the Indian theme is cool.
>>317477516
>Who cares? As long as the game/story isn't affected.
You laying on your back and allowing them to fuck you is what will eventually allow gameplay/story to be affected.
>>317477124
what was censored? is there a list?
haven't played the series after rising
>>317477371
le pedophile mee mee
>>317477590
If your entire party is one class, you're retarded.
>>317477628
ah, the slipperly slope argument
>>317477448
Indian girls are cool, cowboys are shit.
>>317463429
Is that even the same class?
>>317477557
Yes it is faggot
>>317477570
>Game was butchered by Konami.
Game was only finished because Konami forced Hideo to finish it rather than delay it like Kojima wanted.
>>317477628
MUH SLIPPERY SLOPE
Were you dropped on the head?
>>317477667
Do you have a counterargument? Has censorship like this stopped?
>complaint is about an indian being turned into a cow girl
>pro-censorship fags immediately jump to the usual "you only care when boobs are censored" adhominems without even reading
if we needed any more proof that pro-censorship fags are just insecure this is it
>>317477431
http://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/bravely-second-end-layer-will-get-a-collectors-edition-in-europe/
>>317463429
They could have given her a damn full body dress for all I care.
But turning an indian into a cowboy, if that is indeed what they did. Is just awful.
But are we sure it's not just a separate cowboy class?
>>317477692
It's a class being changed, not a character.
>>317477628
But they have literally done this for ages and ages though, what makes you think they will go further?
This happening for ever and has never gotten any further and we never complained there and it is embarrassing that people are complaining now.
>>317463429
Jesus christ get over it
>>317477817
And who says the character you get it from won't be changed too?
>>317477819
If by "for ever" you mean in the early 90s, after which it stopped until just recently.
>>317463429
feminists win!
>>317477790
There's no cowboys there.
>>317477762
Magnolia isn't an indian girl.
>>317477635
Entire chapter cutted, story butchered and rewritten, because shooting in kids is haram, boss fights cutted and some other shit.
>>317477817
Shitposters don't even play or like the games they cry about.
>>317477762
>tfw I am arguing from both sides just to stir up shit, and use complaints like these to get ideas on what to post next
>>317477679
>Is that even the same class?
It's two different characters, brown girl is Amy Matchlock and white girl is Magnolia Arch.
As far as I can see they added a cowboy hat for Magnolia's version of that class.
>>317477926
>Shitposters don't even play or like the games they cry about.
How can you play a game that's not out here yet?
>>317477898
It's in one of the screenshots shown below.
>>317477516
Its disrespectful to the source material and to the consumer. NoA is deciding that Its not appropriate for me to see a woman in skimpy clothing, despite it being a game for older audiences. There's no proper reason to make this change.
Besides that, the new costume looks like trash.
>>317477894
That denial.
https://youtu.be/Sg9OYyPIYNk
>>317477667
LALALA THE SLIPPERY SLOPE IS NOT REAL LALALA IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT LALALA
That's how you guys are every time even when it keeps getting worse.
>>317477990
Nintendo of America didn't localize Bravelu Default. Square did. Square is also doing Second.
>>317478018
And people lost their shit back in the day over that, because it was a needless change.
>>317463429
Are those even the same outfits? Like why change the feathers on her head
>this thread
>>317477894
There have been plenty of costume changers and almost every localized jap game has tons of culture things changed.
If it weren't for Xenoblade's boob slider i can guarantee this wouldn't be that big of a deal.
But even then why didn't you say anything in the 90s, what made you change your mind thinking it was okay then but not now?
>>317478036
>been the same since it started
>ITS ALL GOING DOWN THE SLOPE LOOK
>>317478018
I personally think the censored version is more brutal and better shows off how batshit crazy Albedo is
>>317478036
It's not worse though?
MAN, THEY COVERED UP A 13 YEAR OLD IN MY VIDEOGAME, IT'S RUINED.
>>317478082
They aren't.
>>317463429
these changes just seem extremely unnecessary. I doubt if they left it anybody would make a big deal out of it
>>317477941
You're only helping them you know.
>>317478124
You're assuming a lot of things, like people being alright with games like FF IV being butchered. When even a cursory knowledge of the subject would let you know how wrong you are.
Wait, people genuinely thought Magnolia was a genuine native American? Do you guys even know about the game you're complaining about?
>>317478294
SHITPOSTERS IN A NUTSHELL.
>>317477941
>tee-hee stirring shit up is such fun!
I miss being a teenager too. Fuck the big enterprises am I right
>>317478294
Point me to the posts that even implied that. Everybody is clearly talking about a class, maybe you should read the thread.
>>317478075
My mistake then. Still, i find this kind of thing disrespectful. And that stupid cowboy outfit is still lame.
> Devs: make a design change which, obviously, deviates from alpha footage
> /v/: CENSOR CENSOR CENSOR
>>317478157
I know, right, experience ruined, won't buy! But hey, it's been more than 10 years already, and Monolith is still developing games. And series still lives. And it's still censored. Woah, things really have changed! Except they aren't.
>>317478294
>Do you guys even know about the game you're complaining about?
from reading the thread, it doesn't look like it because apparently the OP's pic is of TWO DIFFERENT CHARACTERS
>>317478294
It's typical of GooberGators, they complain about anything without even doing any research. In their world there is always an evil SJW agenda trying to take their toys away.
>>317478294
Wait, people genuinely thought Magnolia was a genuine cowgirl? Do you guys even know about the game you're complaining about?
>>317478356
Bravely Second has been out in Japan for a while. This isn't alpha footage, you retard.
>>317478387
stop bringing this shit up in every thread you post in
>>317463429
You idiots are flustered over mii tier models showing some skin. Go get laid
IM SICK AND TIRED OF THESE THREADS EVERY DAY
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I have yet to not purchase something just because of minor censorship like this, but it wears on me more and more every time.
They're no listening to their fans, and they don't seem to be approaching their duties as localizers with the intent of bringing a direct product across and only changing what they have to; they seem to approach each game with the idea of "Well, what can we/should we change in this game?" which is insulting as hell to me.
I don't understand why they can't just leave shit alone unless it's going to affect sales.
>>317478532
I am sorry. Did I triggered you? Do you still feel bad about joining that debacle?
>>317478634
Also I think they changed it from Native to cowboy because it's racist to use natives as costumes and cultural appropriation so they want to avoid backlash
>>317478532
>it hurting muh feelings stop posting reeeeee
Well aren't you acting just like your precious SJWs? Hilarious 8gagers, can't even argue outside of your safespaces.
>>317478742
>Don't like it? Don't buy it.
>B-but don't tell anyone else about it, then they might not buy it too! Keep it to yourself!
What's your Mind Virgin level /v/?
Level 1 - Completely sheltered from any kind of dirty thoughts and will get offended by dirty things
Level 2 - Still pretty sheltered but understands some dirty jokes, may get flustered by even minor exposure of skin
Level 3 - Prefers to watch vanilla porn only, gets pretty horny from some skin exposure and extra assets such as big breasts
Level 4 - Has a bit of a kinky side, may check out some BDSM porn
Level 5 - Mind starting to lose focus on reality, will now start getting off on toon porn
Level 6 - Interest in sex starts getting more advanced, may start having an overactive imagination of all the sexual things they could get involved in or want to see others get involved in, starts masturbating more frequently
Level 7 - Starting to take more interest in some weird things such as bestiality and tentacles
Level 8 - Starting to get off on simulated underage porn in forms of animation or real porn where an actor who is 18+ pretends to be underage
Level 9 - Likes to get off on snuff porn
Level 10 - Likes to look at real CP
>>317478124
>why didn't you say anything in the 90s
because I was fucking 9 years old and didn't even have dialup
>>317478532
it's like this comic
just replace Pancakes with whatever the moron is talking about
>>317478797
>because it's racist to use natives as costumes and cultural appropriation
are you just pretending to be a SJW?
>>317478797
That's still censorship and it's still bullshit
This isn't about titties, I have the internet for titties.
>>317463429
>hot indian replaced with hot cowboy
why?
>>317478854
Level 8
>>317478756
>mocking people with PTSD
Exactly as expected from a feminist
>>317477371
>guy says his fetish is indian outfits
>another dude says if he doesn't like that the censorship takes it out he has a right to be mad
>retard out of no where
>"FUCKING PEDO SCUM CHANGE YOUR PREFRENCE SO U DONT RAPE A CHILD!"
>fucking what?
>>>317466653
Same here, glad I don't have to deal with NoA's bullshit anymore.
>Keep pedo stuff in game
>SJWs aren't happy, boycotting the game from their journolair through articles
>Change pedo stuff in game
>Enjoy your Goobergators harassment
>>317467010
Because it's racist...?
>>317479065
I doubt most people in here would get really triggered just by mentioning GoyimGate. And even if they did I am sure there are much worse things to worry about.
>>317463429
Wait, is this censorship? They just changed the outfit to a cowgirl from the indian thing.
>>317467216
I appreciate Nintendo efforts desu
POO IN LOO
>>317478961
because muh cultural appropriation.
and honestly it's hilariously ironic that they would remove the native american costume and supplant it with a cowboy one.
>>317478853
I can safely assume anyone who gives a shite is already watching for this sort of thing like a hawk, you aren't informing anyone who cares because the people who do care already know.
>>317467010
>Why does NoA do it?
Square is doing it because slutty indian caricature is considered racist in America.
>>317478854
I'm Level 0
I think erotic things without any emotional connection are irrelevant, so they don't bother me
This might help clarify a few things.
>>317479209
apparently that counts as censorship
>>317463429
Poor, poor, poor nintendo...
>>317468906
That it's not cool an almost exterminated group of people and their cultures is used as a costume, neck beard shut in tears are less important
>>317479301
>Because muh cultural appropriation
>Source: my ass
Couldn't possibly be the fact that the indian costume is half naked and impossible to fix and western games/handhelds are marketed towards kids, right? No no they replaced one "bad" stereotype for another even though that makes no sense because "lol dey dumb hurrr"
Seriously man, what the fuck?
>>317469247
Exactly
>>317467270
This is the best part. Can't wait for "Oh no big bad nintendo strikes again" when they have no hand in this.
I like how localization suddenly has a 1:1 magnifying glass on it in general lately- if it's not the exact same it's CENSORSHIP!!
Like a character gets a different hat and it's censorship these days, it's hilarious
>>317479508
that wasn't the issue. the issue is that the screenshot on the right shows the Tomahawk job/costume featured on the left being replaced by a cowboy.
>>317479161
>China declares war on ISIS after terrorists claim to have executed Chinese hostage
how is it racist? what about a community does it demean by having it? are the groups that made it ashamed of it? i dont understand, i really just dont.
>>317479636
Enjoy your 'muh gateway/R4s/CFW bricks' responses.
>>317479713
>Couldn't possibly be the fact that the indian costume is half naked
No because the cowboy outfit is also half-naked and many costumes in the first game were similarly revealing. Cowboys aren't a race so there's nothing wrong with using them as a sexy costume.
Uh... what exactly is wrong with an indian costume in the first place?
>>317479636
Nintendo consoles are always hacked/emulated first, this is nothing new. Probably because Nintendo exclusives are the best by far.
>>317479713
they changed it from an indian into a cowboy. they left several other sexualized costumes in the game (this one is still sexualized, for that matter, albeit slightly less so). stop trying to pretend it has to do with the sexualization of characters or anything at all to do with children as a marketing demographic of the game.
>>317479990
It's rayciss
>>317479990
>white girl wearing an indian costume
they are a culture, not a costume
>>317479815
That change probably doesn't affect Amy.
>>317478854
snuff seems worse than real cp imho
>>317464061
I like the hat, but seriously? Native American shit being censored? That's ridiculous.
>>317471918
Natives were living in the American continent way before Cowboys even existed they're more American than your ass, idiot
>>317479947
>Indian outfit is basically a bikini, clear vision of female underwear
>Cowboy outfit shows just the exposed midriff
>I-I'ts the same!
No, it really isn't, it's entirely in-line with the changes made to the original and the skimpy costumes that had, except that there really was no way for them to change the indian outfit without making it look bad, so they went with something else entirely.
Best part? For all we know this is an optional costume for the class which was already a thing in the previous game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmNKspKUaTQ
>>317472662
How does she look like a kid?
>>317480004
Especially hilarious thing about these threads, that none of these anticensorship kiddies have guts to actually reply to people stating about the fact that all current Nintendo consoles are jailbreaked already, so all this censorship bullshit can be avoided easily.
>>317479661
Why does it have to be insulting? Why is any representation of anything considered "demeaning" and "offensive"? It's not like they're turning it into a laughable stereotype for everyone to make fun of, they're just giving you the class as an option, like they could give you an option to play as an Eskimo, or a Cowboy, or a Viking.
>not cool
>anyone who disagrees with something is a neckbeard shut-in
You tumblrshits are brainwashed.
Lol you guys are dumb. If they were actually trying to censor her, they would make her black.
>>317480127
they changed the entire theme of the job. why would it not affect every character who can use that job?
i'd like to know what they renamed the class to after the change, and what else they may have changed, but seeming as this is just one small image on the EU collector's edition website, we don't know yet.
>>317480384
I can see the headlines now
>The lazy terrorist was too lazy to strike again!
What a nice world that would be to live in.
>>317464756
Do you call everything thing you don't like hearing about a fucking meme, you retard?
>>317480478
Anon, if it's like BD you beat the class boss to unlock the class, so it makes sense for you to be a cowboy after defeating the indian :^)
I really can't imagine this is censorship, not without also assuming that the people involved are entirely retarded, and such presumption is in itself retarded.
>>317475425
How is a cowboy a racial stereotype. You better not be saying against white people
>>317480105
>>317480107
I'm from Texas. Can I email someone to let them know I am offended by the cowboy hat?
Honestly I just want a sexy plantation slave outfit.
>>317480478
>they changed the entire theme of the job
Maybe it's the same but some of the characters wear cowboy hats.
>>317480647
I hope you're not implying you can't be racist against whites.
>>317480427
I am Cherokee's descendant and what you're saying is not cool in the slightest, you fucking bigot.
>>317480380
>so all this censorship bullshit can be avoided easily.
Do you really think everyone speaks Japanese? Also Wii U is still region-locked.
>>317467738
NoA is publishing it and localizing it
>>317463429
>#I AM LAUGHING A LO T I DIDNT NOTICE IT AT ALL
>>317475905
I don't think using native culture as dress up is doing them any favors
>>317480696
Only if you're a black, transexual dragonkin your opinion MIGHT be taken seriously
>>317463429
Amy is the Asterisk holder for the Tomahawk job. She’s from a minority tribe that lives in the depth of Flowell. She has the ability to communicate with spirits and uses a gun with axe and spear-like tip that is said to bring out an image of the tribe’s guardian.
>>317479302
I didn't know until this thread so
>>317463429
>MFW I grabbed the first one for $15 a month after launch from a pawn shop.
Fuck this shit and fuck all the companies involved as well as their employees.
>>317480768
I am glad the outfit is being censored
I get enough of your drunk, homeless red asses living near a reserve
I dont need you fucking savages polluting my games either.
>>317480647
How is it not? It's not representative of the race in any capacity and it's an entirely fictional concept born from Hollywood movies. It's not more and no less of a racial stereotype than the indian garb from the same fucking wellspring of bullshit.
>have to look for things to change
>make trivial changes
>spend 1 month communicating/asking the staff for another model, if not making one yourself
I don't even care about the things they changed that much but hell, they do waste time on unnecessary bullshit no one would have remotely cared about
We could have already had this game
I like the cowboy, but the native American stuff should be left in, it's ridiculous.
Censorship wouldnt bother me as much if it didnt came from the same publisher as BAYONETTA 1+2
IMAGINE HOW HORRIBLE BAYONETTA 3 WOULD BE ON WII U
>>317477976
>of that class
But is "that" class the same class?
>>317480781
>what are undubs
>what are CFWs
>what are region free backup loaders
Kids these days...
>>317480893
>SJWs finally get muh nority representation
>censor it
First game was butchered so I'm not surprised this one is.
>>317477990
It's more disrespectful for actual individuals from the culture they're taking to play dress up
>>317480810
I don't think it's doing them any bad either, which is why it's a non-issue. It's representing their attire, which reminds people that they exist/existed.
>>317480757
I'm not sure how they're going to swing a brown skinned tribe girl with a class called the Tomahawk giving you a job that turns you into a stetson-wearing cowboy.
>>317463820
How will he decensor and restore the plot and dialog they inevitably rape
>>317481040
Sidewinder is an ability from the Tomahawk class
>Magnolia isn't even the main character
Why do people give a shit about Bravely Second?
>>317463429
>Tomahawk has Indian look
>New version is American Cowboy look
Lolwut
>>317481030
Its Square, you dumb fuck.
>>317463429
Why the fuck did they censor it? I dont get it. not seeing this one. shes just a fucking indianm thats how they dressed. just like the cowboy. What the fuck? nintendo was doing okay for awhile, why are they going full retard tier now? Why are the censoring a game only men are gonna play? I dont get it.
>>317481005
It's very likely for the same reasons 90% of all such "censorship" happens. The original tomahawk outfit has visible underwear, which would possibly get it an M rating, while hand-held consoles are mainly marketed and sold to young children/teens.
It's a better idea to ask yourself what the importance is, rather than dismiss it as trivial out of ignorance.
>>317463429
>MUH LEWD CHIBI!
>>317481040
Probably, so the class might be the same even if they look slightly different.
I doubt that they will change Amy's character from Indian to Cowboy, that would be insanely stupid and would anger the SJWs more than you could imagine.
>>317481147
No it's not, fuck off with this retarded shit.
>>317464173
Beacuse most people aren't as dumb as you, friend.
>>317480790
No they arent
>>317478854
This isn't a linear scale, someone could like snuff and not bdsm, or like underage shit and not tentacles or bestiality
>>317481225
>nintendo was doing okay for awhile
Square along with their outsourced company is localizing this as they did with the first game, idiot.
>>317473794
Magnolia isn't a child.
>>317480154
I can guarantee you some faggot 1/16 native american at the NoA office complained about it.
>>317481147
native americans dont even play fucking video games
they are too busy being homeless drunks or strippers
>>317478854
I'm between 5 and 6 desu senpai
>>317481174
>I'm not sure how they're going to swing a brown skinned tribe girl with a class called the Tomahawk giving you a job that turns you into a stetson-wearing cowboy.
I don't see much distance there.
>>317481229
>which would possibly get it an M rating
Fatal Frame 5 also had shit removed, an M-rated game. Senran Kagura is one of the most explicit fucking games on a Nintendo system and it has a T rating.
>>317481201
I like the art style and the job system
>>317481361
So its not Nintendo? Why is american square being so fucking retarded?
>>317481319
It's also nonsensical in places, tentacles is a 7 while I generally just see them as a kind of sex implement on the same level as a toy. You'd need to be quite fucked up indeed to attribute some kind of bestial intellect to them and have that be a factor in your sexual satisfaction.
Also BDSM porn before drawings of porn? A likely scale indeed!
>>317481229
>The original tomahawk outfit has visible underwear, which would possibly get it an M rating
no, if they asked ESRB or PEGI they would have told them it's fine, underwear is barely in the T category, and in games like these where it isn't the focal point it doesn't matter one bit
they are just self-censoring themselves out of habit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFTurZz_N_M
this is some 4kids level shit
>>317481491
Who knows, they aged the characters up in the last game and still felt the need to censor some outfits. But it could also be Square of Japan since they do feel the need to do what they think is right half the time.
>>317479661
> We slaughtered them. We robbed their land and still hold it, b-but we are sensitive about their cultural representation in video games now!
You burgers are hilarious sometimes.
>>317481508
>BDSM
BDSM is normie now.
>>317481229
Senran kagura burst
>>317481239
So will any model with even a fucking bit of body just be censored even though it really doesn't mattered? Didn't they get the rage of their fans the first time? Why are they doing it again? They should know this will only make the people who want the game mad, so why? only fucking old 20-30 year olds are playing this fucking game. whats the fucking point.
>>317481469
>shit got changed with exclusive content for West
>'it removed guysee!!'
>>317481213
No it's Nintendo since Nintendo is publishing it
>>317481469
I'm not well versed in the specifics, but it's typically sensible to assume things are happening with good cause rather than by complete nonsense, if you're making assumptions in the first place that is.
Also I thought Senran Kagura was a vita game and has nothing to do with Nintendo.
Also not sure about the Fatal Frame nonsense, maybe they thought they made it better that way or some shit, it's hard to be sure when you're just guessing at the motivations of people.
This fucking does it, time to jailbreak my 3ds.
Dance you fucking puppets.
>>317481306
Yes they are just like they did Bravely Default to begin with
>Beat an Indian
>Get the Cowboy Job
That's pretty fucked up.
>>317481730
No its not since they arent
>>317481746
>Also I thought Senran Kagura was a vita game and has nothing to do with Nintendo.
burst was on 3ds and rated teen
>>317481830
No they didn't, Square and Binari Sinori did the localization of the first game.
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/16/heres-worked-bravely-defaults-english-localization/
>>317481147
>disrespectful
No it's not. I like playing dress up. I take no offense whatsoever.
>>317481746
Senran Kagura is on the 3ds more and its not censored at all, its like some companies can get away with it because they know for sure whos buying it. It should be the same with this game, nobody that is under 20 will play this game. its a jrpg.
Not only did they censor the models i bet the story is just as censored too.
>>317481379
>or strippers
i've never seen a native american stripper. unless you know of some seriously underground places with seriously young girls, because i live near a res in south dakota and those girls balloon faster than mexican chicks. they all seem to get pregnant at around 14 years old and pork out.
>>317481762
can you do it without that ninja game now?
>A ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2011 (Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association/Entertainment Software Association) found that video games are a constitutionally-protected form of expression, and that laws restricting their sale or rental based upon violent content are unconstitutional.
>constitutionally-protected form of expression
Interesting stuff on ESRB's website, shouldn't laws restricting their sale or rental based upon sexual content also be unconstitutional?
Or is violence the only constitutional right?
>>317481692
I don't know, they are too sensitive with the western release. Honestly everyone should have saw this coming though. The even change the characters ages for the western release. There's nothing we can do about it though, Square Enix is in japan we can't tell them how to do their business.
>>317481962
>i bet the story is just as censored too.
Of course the dialogue is going to be altered. It's been altered in almost every dialogue heavy game they've released in the last 3 years.
>native american
>automatically think to censor it too a white cowboy
Should i be mad or just laughing?
>>317481229
This is in a Teen rated game. In fact you can see all of the girls panties in this game. They even have a feature to let you look up their skirts. Panties are Teen.
>>317482060
It's hardly restricted anon, the games can be sold, just under a rating that will discourage anyone from buying it.
It simply cannot be pulled from shelves, but that's as far as that goes. And if the games are deemed "adult" or pornographic that will supersede the fact that it's a game.
>>317481265
Yea it is. The change in the class is proof of that, twirl on that dense motherfucker
>>317482167
Laughing >>317481852
>Be European
>Americans are ashamed of how they killed the native Americans so they remove them from the localization of the Japanese games that feature them
>Somehow this ends up affecting me, because they let America do the localization for both America and Europe it seems
Fuck. Take your cowgirls and your hooters and your rodeo shows full of animal abuse and keep them to yourselves. I wanted the native American class.
>>317482078
But they got complete rage with what they did the first time and all they had to do was up the age, why is that fucking not enough? Whats so bad about any of the models? nothing.fuck whats so wrong with a fucking m rated game for a rpg? this game is on the same level as smt, it will sell just as good.
>>317481620
It's the least they could do after doing all those shitty things they did like you correctly typed yet people here are being obtuse
>>317482280
Because of idiots like you who are brainwashed to think everything is offensive.
If it was on pc this wouldn't be a thing.
>>317482280
Then explain why Europe suffers from American genocide? Why do they get the censor and aren't allowed to have a native American class but Japan can?
>>317481229
>while hand-held consoles are mainly marketed and sold to young children/teens.
the largest demographic of 3DS owners and users are males aged 18-45. child usership is generally incidental, via use as a "family console" when purchased and used mainly by adults or older siblings.
soccer moms placating their somebody-please-think-of-the-children with handhelds make up a surprisingly small amount of the userbase.
>>317482341
I wonder how they'll change the job command, from spirituality to rodeo?
>>317482341
>Rodeo shows full of animal abuse
Spain holds that title anon, also keep in mind that American culture is literally just "steal everything from other cultures" and even that was stolen.
>>317479661
So we changed the sexy Indian, to a cowboy.
great job everyone 10/10 lets get back too ruining a game for the west once again.
I think they are doing this just to make people mad, they already knew how mad everyone got with the first.
All we are getting are redesigns without the real creative that did them.
So when this game gets decensored how will i be able to do the patch. did you need a flash cart for the first one? are 3ds flashcards good now? whats the best one? should of got one by now.
>>317482852
>Change indian to cowboy
>GAME RUINED GG WAAAAARRGGG
Anon...Cowgirls are so much better
>>317482697
>from spirituality to plague-induced genocide
fixed.
>i'm glad we got that sensitive cultural appropriation issue settled. time to publish in the west :^)
>>317482525
That should show you there are more people who think alike and you're just an idiot who will have to deal with it.
>>317483016
only when they're reversed, imo :^)
>>317483067
It's a vocal minority who likes being loud. Ask anyone who's sane if this kind of stuff is offensive to them.
>>317482832
Spain is shit too. Don't think Europe is some kind of culturally unified region or anything.
But I still don't like cowboys. That trash can stay in America.
Gun obsessed country bumpkins.
>>317483337
>Spain is shit too
Every country here in Europe is shit, Spain is no exception to that.
And hey, I find boots to be attractive attire to I'm entirely okay with it, don't see what's not to like about cowgirls, they even have the best position >>317483147
>bunch of 8gag non-gamers just discovering shit Nintendo has always done.
>>317483557
But Square did this though
![1436143945-ringabel[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1dJMkI8.png "1436143945-ringabel[1]")
