ISOLATED THREAD
Also, does anyone know where I can read up on WoD Lore. I want to read all about mages, mummies, werewolves, and all that shit thats fucked up.
>>315710764
http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
right here friend
bumping with a qt and a reminder that gangrel are best clan
I can understand WoD threads on /tg/ since there is so much ground to cover, but VtMB threads are the purest form of hugbox autism. There is no point to them, there is not much content, everything has been done to death.
>link deb of the night radio comfyness page
>don't open it lel
>dinosaur in the museum
>malkavians are kewl, stop sign woow
etc etc you just reshuffle posts in each thread.
>>315711824
Well, there's a bit of news in recent weeks, so that's of note. Also, it's just after halloween, these threads are always active around this time of year
>>315711537
>tfw no Gangrel gf
>>315712005
I guess you're right, especially since there's bound to be announcement of VtMB 2 or something similar soon, perhaps even with Obsidian (ugh) helming it. But still, these are the most same-y threads on /v/. Kappa vampires.
>>315710764
Why smoke?
She doesn't even have functional gas exchange occurring in her alveoli.
>>315712263
I can agree on that, but they're still generally high quality. They're much better when there's a lot of lore discussion, the kind you won't get in /tg/ since most of them like nWoD more
>>315712027
>you're fucking her and then bam!
I got to thinking: which is more moral? Letting Heather be with you only to die later? Or protecting her by telling her off?
It depends on how strong her connection to you is. I'm not sure what the lore says on this, but she might not have much of a future if she stays hyper obsessed.
>>315712358
Humanity and it tricks kine into thinking you're human.
>>315713651
There are abandoned ghouls that hunt down thin blood vampires for their blood.
playing through this for the first time now
picked malk because she had the best titty physics
I'll probably not enjoy a second playthrough as much will I?
>>315713587
anon plsI want to pet her
>>315713903
malk first playthrough is really confusing. All to you though if you can do it
>>315713903
Malk has way too much meta knowledge.
>>315713897
sounds like she's fucked. Ah well she's extremely annoying anyways so I sent her on her way.
I know vampires don't need to eat or drink, but can they? Do they still have bodily fluids?
>>315713897
>>315715961
It was only one sip. I think she can return to normal life if you send her fuck off right away.
Later, yes, she is fucked, and also ruined her life already.
>>315716369
blood is the only liquid they have in them. i think they *can* eat and drink, but it doesn't sustain them, and like most physical sensations it's barely felt
>>315710764
Werewolf the Apocalypse Would Make the Tights shit for a Video game
>>315712263
Well, I for one forgot to save pics in the earlier thread that showed the nvidia GPU settings for modding this game. Anybody got those? Two pics, I recall.
>>315712263
Whats this about a VtMB2?
>>315717113
Thread is still in archive >>315600932
>>315717770
paradox bought it
they are known to shit out an underwhelming game every few months so expect vtmb 2 before 2017
>>315717770
There is nothing we know for sure. Paradox bought White Wolf and everything from CCP because they want to make game, Obsidian interested too and they worked with Paradox for a long time already. That's all.
>>315716369
I think they can, but they have to throw it back up later.
>>315717994
Nah, Pillars were announced at september 2012 and released only at march 2015.
I doubt Paradox would rush Obsidian too hard with such promising product. It would be a real shame in such case.
Posting best girl
>>315718530
It's gonna be a shit game with Obsidian developing it either way
>>315719792
Tremere master race.
>>315719934
>>315712263
>Obsidian (ugh)
If we want something that isn't an isometric game who else would you want to do it? CDPR is the only other dev I can think of and I don't want them to do it. Plus they're already working on Cyberpunk.
>>315719906
Will see. Pillars were boring for me, but I like NWN2. They can do good characters. Hard to say how they are at telling stories. And bugs of course, there will be tons of bugs, just like in VTMB. It's very promising, anon.
>>315720236
>who else
There is no one in the west. I'd give it to Ice Pick Lodge.
>>315720265
No, Avellone could do good characters. VtmB was all Troika. If Paradox gave Vampire to Obsidian you'd have Josh Sawyer overseeing the plot. Rather have Metzen at that point.
>>315719792
best girl was posted at the beginning of the thread anon
>>315720589
>Ice Pick Lodge
They cannot into games. Their "Art" is either boring or unplayable.
>>315720589
>Ice Pick Lodge
I guess that might work. I've only played a little bit of Pathologic but it seems somewhat similar. I don't remember if Pathologic has stats though. That probably wouldn't be too much of an issue to implement. I still think Obsidian would be better though, even if a little bit since they have connections to the original game to some extent. Having a dev not related might do wonders though. Anyone else besides them?
>>315721240
Not really even though Age of Decadence guy put even more branching paths than you find in VtmB. I doubt SWERY or Suda 51 would be interested and it would be too moeshit with them.
>>315720614
Obviously not, because I had to come into this thread to post her.
>>315721501
Then you posted wrong girl, anon.
>>315721403
Well I specified not isometric because while AoD has tons of RPG content I'm not sure how well they'd be able to develop a game like Bloodlines. It could work though I guess.
Have SWERY or Suda 51 ever made an RPG? I don't want a new WoD game to be some cuhrazy hack and slash shit.
I wouldn't be against an isometric game though, but I want a new Bloodlines-ish game first.
>>315710764
Rulebooks.
or wiki for basic info.
>>315713719
>>315712358
She also spent like 3 Vitae or so, I really doubt Janos sisters are in ~7 humanity zone.
But most Bloodlines fans don't know shit about WoD
>>315721742
>Have SWERY or Suda 51 ever made an RPG? I don't want a new WoD game to be some cuhrazy hack and slash shit.
SWERY or Suda 51 both suck at gameplay but SWERY is a good writer (with dead career) and Suda is a visionary compared to most western devs. I don't care much about RPG aspects of the franchise, I just want variety of approach.
>>315717994
people jizz over VtM and Bloodlines, but what about PnP? CCP fucked Onyx Path when they denied reissue of revised edition the corebook with God Machine update and now everyone who wants to play GMC has to have from 3 to 5 books on their hands.
>>315722229
>I don't care much about RPG aspects of the franchise
Well I'm not sure how serious I can take your opinions about who should make a new game if you don't care if it's an RPG or not. Still, Icepick is a good choice now that I think about it but I still want to see what Obsidian does.
>>315722430
It should have some RPG elements, sure but honestly I'd prefer a walking simulator with strong puzzles and branching paths. Really don't care whether I put a point in guns or two in melee.
>>315722675
Personally, the game I'd like the most is an original XCOM clone with squad based demon hunting in WoD universe. With characters that are not nameless grunts.
>>315722801
meant for
>>315722387
>>315722675
>>315722801
I mean there's plenty of non-RPG games that could be made but first and foremost I want a game similar to Bloodlines and hopefully good. I think it's a waste basing something off a pnp RPG series if you're just going to throw all but the setting away.
>>315722801
>>315723162
I want a Vigil game. I really like VIgil and XCOM styled game would work.
Get grunts who got a glimpse of WoD and now scared shitless and want to do something, level them up, buy a safehouse in your City, update it with traps, caches and hidden facilities, defend it from "monsters", patrol the streets, start your own\join covenant or try and work towards bigger conspiracy. Throw in some "day life" elements like some Hunters jobs and family or bribing cops, getting connections for extra flavor.
>>315723457
But VtMB is barely an RPG due to its piss poor gameplay. Only thing that works is seduction/intimidation/persuasion which can be reworked with 'branching paths' I mentioned.
>>315723567
Yeah, couldn't remember the name, Hunter the Vigil... with carefully designed setpieces, nothing random, a strict campaign... so I guess not exactly what you'd prefer. I wouldn't give the player an ounce of freedom other than when fates of characters are involved (throw in a bit of Fire Emblem-ish sacrifice).
>>315723736
I just want to run over Werewolves in my car and set Vampires on fire while my 4 friends are pocking it with long sticks or breaking ghoul arms with my eldritch art of (cold)metal baseball bat to the hand, also works for breaking jaws
There is also a possibility for investigative missions, Hunters need to stalk their pray before killing it.
both approaches would work, IMO sandbox with scripted events would work better, persistent party with permadeath is n option. IMO linear story with no variation would limit this game potential.
>>315724375
I think sandbox always limits the gameplay death and the narrative strength as evidenced with the demise of lore driven MGS series.
>>315724669
>depth
>>315724669
MGS had a ton of problems with story, being sandbox wasn't one of them.
Game narrative also can and should be emergent, not only scripted. But Squad based TBS games worked narrative into their games with elements of sandbox. Think of it as a bunch of sidequests.
Also MGS sandbox and XCOM sandbox look and play differently.
>>315721216
>>315721240
>>315720589
>Ice Pick Lodge
Just throw Promethean at them. Or Changeling.
>>315724998
sandbox simplified the setpieces making them non existent in fact and ruined the careful level design as well.
>>315719792
>Commie vampire
It's like two shit together.
>>315721639
>Not executing her once she stops being useful
Bitch is a wild dog that needs to be put down. Just because she isn't kill crazy all the time, doesn't mean I'm okay with her. And despite what she says, there's no way she can keep that up that level of murdering without harming the masquarade.
>>315725731
Can't they consume dead flesh ?
She should hook up with Vandal.
>>315726152
>dead flesh
no. she's a Nagaraja. She must eat alive prey.
This makes her really bad for Masquerade.
>>315726583
Well then she should move to detroit.
>>315726678
Isn't Detroit a Sabbath territory? I don't remember shit about about VtM.
>>315725731
>that level of murdering
Cammy, please. She need only one body per 10 days. She can kill group of homeless people (and no one would ever care about them), freeze the bodies and will have food for a whole month. Your average vamp has more risk to being noticed when feeding.
>>315727157
She can't freeze them as in put them in ice, she must use rituals to preserve bodies.
Kindred can drink blood without the victim noticing, blood back are an option too.
And I really doubt someone would become a blood doll for her.
>>315726780
Yeah that's why it's so shit.
>>315717805
Oh yeah! Thanks!
>>315730523
>that hairline
JUST
Is thaumaturgy any useful? I know blood strike was very abusable at some point, but it looks like it was fixed long time ago. How bloodboil works against bosses? Is it worth it?
>playing as toreador again
>mfw those early guns
jesus christ I forgot they were so bad. At least the glock isn't shit and I have celerity 3 now
isolated
>>315732285
Yeah, still pretty much the best discipline along with celerity
Can other clans learn disciplines they don't start with in the pnp game? If so is there a limit like they can only be leveled up a certain amount?
I really wish I could find someone to play the pnp game with irl.
And hopefully a new game would have more stuff from the pnp game than Bloodlines, though Bloodlines wasn't bad at it, but a bit simplified from what I've read.
>>315734669
Yeah. They'd have to find someone willing to teach it to them, generally speaking different clans will be more or less willing to teach. Like it could be easy getting potence as a gangrel, but good luck getting thaumaturgy
>>315734669
You'd ask about tabletob in /tg/, but whatever.
In old wod (vtm) you limited to your clan disciplines, but there also was caitiffs aka clanless who can learn any disciples but for higher cost.
In new (vtr) you start with any two clan disciplines (or a single one at 2nd level) and 3rd one can be any other. There are bunch of common disciplines available for everybody and some restricted to specific covenants or clans.
>>315735519
>limited to clan disciplines
not really, you can learn others. I think it takes a lot longer to learn those though
playing bloodlines for the first time and just entered some mansion thing
absolutely fuck no i thought the light shattering was bad enough, i go inside and i see someone jump through a wall and the light fixture spazzes out whenever i get close
just how long do i have to spend in that hellhole before i can leave and never come back?
>>315736949
I did it today and it only took like 20 minutes I think. But this is my second time through the game so it'll probably be longer for you.
Honestly that level is talked about a lot and while it is atmospheric and somewhat scary I don't really like it. It's basically just a theme park environment.
>>315737084
any cheap scares i should know about or is it generally just unsettling?
>>315737195
:^)
>>315737321
help me, mate
i can't be doin with this
>>315737406
try not to get squished
>>315737406
it's fine, just pay attention to your surroundings and youre gucci
>>315737406be careful
>>315737406
There's shit flying at you sometimes but other than that I can't think of anything I'd classify as a jump scare. I probably have a different criteria for that than some people though.
>>315737406
Some very small "jump scares" in one of the places you go where some items in the building gets thrown at you but nothing loud/screaming shit to worry about. It's more surprising than jump scares.
I hate jump scares shit and I had no problems with this game. The game does have some genuinely scary areas though but that it just due to how creepy it is.
>>315730523
>>315721639
So is she a regular vampire that is a bit crazy or is she a different species or whatever?
>>315739720
Nagaraja is her clan. You can read more about them in wiki. And she is not crazy at all.
>>315740064
Thank you
I don't know much about VTM lore and what not so I wasn't sure.. but I figured she wasn't crazy.. I thought maybe she was an entire different monster type altogether.
This clan would have been fun to play in Bloodlines.
>>315716369
If a vampire chomps someone under the influence of alcohol or drugs, they get a minor hit.
>>315744360
Would drinking the blood of someone having an orgasm make the vampire cum?
>>315744360
Well, can't you just mix alcohol with blood for the same effect? Or is it another magical bullshit and you drink "emotions"?
>>315745012
It's exactly that, actually. Drink drunk blood, get drunk yourself. Drink blood with alcohol, get ruined food.
>Just finished listening to Surfer Rosa by Pixies
>Load up my Malkavian character
>Join The anarchs, Damsel wants me to give her gossip about the prince
>One dialog option is to say that there are rumours about him being into field hockey players
That dialog cannot be anything but a reference to I'm Amazed by Pixies. So my question is:
Can the malkavian PC read your own mind?
pls halpI liked the GY!BE reference from the doomsayer too
>>315716976
I've been waiting for too long
>>315717994
I wouldn't expect VtMB2 at all, since oWoD is over.
How is Requiem, anyway? I only know about The Masquerade because of this game, so I never really read up on the new one.
>heal Heather
>tell her I am vampire
>she starts screaming
Damn, I didn't play so long I almost forgot she was a normal human before we met.
Btw, I managed to spam blood strike a few times in a row. Still don't understand how and why it happens.
>>315745821
there are a couple of changes
>no more generation
>no more caine
>less clans
>more bloodlines
>different sects
>sect gives you abilities
etc
Trying to find all VtM Bloodlines concept art is hard as fuck. GameBanshee used to have a gallery of all of that stuff ages ago but it was removed for some reason.
Do you folks think a thread on /tg/ about all Vampire the Masquerade artwork from the RPG books would actually get anything good in reply?
The few times I tried to discuss oWoD in the WoD general, most people just ignored me.
Best clan coming through, niggers.
Celerity + high melee skill + good sword + Potence > any other shit you can come up with.
Also, Murikan Iconoclast (Anarchs) Brujah are shit. Yuropean Idealist bros is where it's at.
>>315746294
That's not True Brujah.
>>315745752
So, they developed game in WoD setting and then were closed.
Troika made Bloodlines and then goes bankrupt.
Pure Obsidian...
>>315745821
>How is Requiem, anyway?
i endured 2 hours of extremely tedious and generic dungeon cleaning before i quit
>>315746210
they could i guess
but that concept art looks like shit desu
>>315746210
Why does the Tremere guy need that gay ass piercing? He was a GOAT PC until I noticed that shit.
>playing vtm:bloodlines for the first time
>went with noseferatu
did I make a mistake
>>315746294
is Serena kill? ):
>>315746536
Yes. They not very interesting in general. Unlike malk you just scare people, not make fun of their dirty secrets.
>>315746454
To each his own.
>>315746352
A shit. Promethean sympathizers/closet Promethean warrior-poets are what makes Brujah actually good, not their actual lineage.
>>315746654
Yup, deader than dead. She a necromancer, a vampire and met her Final Death in that castle. That's like, Triple Dead at least.
>>315746708
it would fit in 70s new orleans
>>315746654
>mfw her German VA
She was sultry as fuck in English, but German kicks it up a notch further.
>>315746654
ye olde shite writing
>>315744638
I require an answer.
>>315746868
>not playing a game of vampire set in the '80s
Everyone's snorting coke and out to make money no matter what means. Sounds perfect.
>tfw you will never be a cute toreador
>tfw you will never be called degenerate by everyone, while bathing yourself in luxury and hedonism
>tfw you will never seduce mortals, just for fun
>tfw you will never be sonic fast
WHO /TOREADOR/ HERE? Best clan.
>>315746969
>Alright, so I'm with this dumb bitch here and just waiting for her to get high so I can feed on her.
>>315746978
>toreador
>luxury
Nah, you will spend most of your no-life in shitty clubs.
>>315746969
oliver stone really shat the eighties up with his fiction
>>315746384
The only thing that survived from this game are the cut scenes, but they are kinda unfinished and the voice acting sucks, especially for werewolves.
>>315747073
That's half true. But for me, toreador are the best clan because they are simply the most human of the clans.
Everything they do is to escape boredom, just like every human. Now imagine doing that for all eternity.
They are the most dead inside of any clan, makes you think a lot anon.
>>315746352
I find it interesting original Brujah Antediluvian Ilyes is one of the few confirmed to have been killed and long time ago at that. Until Gehenna pulled some fuckery and had him re-emerge from hiding or something because everything needed to be even more of a clusterfuck than it already was.
>>315747460
I can't find anything actually entertaining for a few years already.
>Now imagine doing that for all eternity.
Horrible.
>>315747617
Why do you think vampires get into their politics in the first place? Because you have an eternity ahead of you and you need to keep yourself busy somehow. There ARE vampires who "dig a well" aka find a steady source of blood somewhere and do fuck all between torpor, but that's essentially the equivalent of becoming a vampire NEET.
>>315716369
there's a discipline at least that allows them to eat and drink like normal persons. i think it was a salubri one
>>315710764
>mfw vtmb threads every day since the rights have been bought
I'm happy about this,
but you do realize nothing good will come out of it right?
>>315747269
If there was one thing they fucked up in Forsaken it was full-page art. I miss the old white and black comic and stencil looks over all this new shit.
>>315747879
I can only hope for fangames.
Though, then again, weren't the new Shadowrun games decent? Maybe the lightning will strike twice, who knows.
>>315747979
>Though, then again, weren't the new Shadowrun games decent?
HBS got better at making them, but they weren't really mechanically faithful to Shadowrun. Did a decent job atmosphere-wise, though.
If Obsidian did crowdfunding for a new WoD game, would you support it?
>>315748105
sure. it could be their second kickstarter they hinted at, especially if paradox has been in talks with them about making a wod game. because I doubt they bought the franchise on a whim and without some sort of plan.
>>315747879
Don't say that, anon..
Let us dream?
>>315748105
No.
If the team that worked on the first game was involved then maybe.
>>315747617
You're not a Toreador that could snap his fingers and get Kris10 on her knees though
>>315747879
Who bought the rights?
Can we actually hope for a new game?
>>315748105
I havent supported a single kickstarted game desu, I did buy expedition:conquistador and div:os
so if obsidian announced one I would definitely buy and play the game once it released, but would not support it prior to that
>>315748285
Paradox if I'm not mistaken,
I doubt they would have bought them to do jack shit with them, I'll give it 5 years.
Do any characters from bloodlines appear in redemption?
>>315749054
Nope, not evenCaine.
>>315744638
>>315746954
No, that doesn't even make sense. They can't cum anyway
>>315749269
Then how do they get drunk if they aren't supposed to be able to do that, either? I mean, they aren't even humans anymore, and yet humanity is one of their stats.
There's gotta be a way.
>>315751463
It's amazing how the character models hold up even now 11 years after the game's release.
>>315751637
>yfw 11 year old game has better facial animation than Fallout 4
>>315751694
I don't think anyone's surprised by that since Bethesda spends 90% of its budget for game development on marketing.
>>315751990
heck, the facial animation in fallout 2 and 1 (talking heads) are better than gamebryo bethesda shit
>>315752092
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
>>315721639http://webmshare.com/AG9GA
Ugh, Cammy
>>315752150
post a single example of npc in a bethesda game showing visible emotion
>>315750770
Humanity is a stat that indicates how much the beast controls their thoughts and actions.
0 humanity turns you into a ravenous monster that acts like an animal.
>>315752513
can't a vampire forsake humanity completely for a path of enlightenment?
>>315747951
Yeah, they looked pretty good. But there were some books with potato pics too
>>315719792
Damsel is cute! CUTE!
>not enough porn of the girls
WHY?
Why is this game so unknown?
>>315754554
You do understand the porn is made by commissioning it? If the community doesn't pay, the porn doesn't get produced. It's that simple.
>>315752594
Yes, but the game only handles the Path of Humanity because most neonates follow this path in the getgo before finding out what they actually want to do with their unlife.
Afterwards, you can change your path to whatever. But for the sake of simplicity most players (that I know of) still use the term "Humanity" to determine your rating into the path you've chosen.
Because for ALL paths, 0 rating means turning into a constantly frenzied killing machine and 10 rating means absolute control of yourself and conviction in your own ideals, thus rating 10 feels inherently like a "human" perfection (think Buddhism's enlightment).
>>315754814
Being an artist myself, I wouldn't be against doing fan art for the sake of fan art.
The problem with porn is that it can be troublesome if it gets associated with you somehow, depending on the kind of crowd you draw.Considering I've been commissioned by furries for unspeakable things, I think it's more that I'm just lazy than anything. However, that could explain the lack of general fan art. You could try asking in a drawthread here but I have absolutely no idea what kinda quality they produce since I never frequent them.
>>315755202
I want it...
>>315752332
Chirstine from Dead Money was a shitshow.
>>315756775
Well that wasn't bethesda that was obsidian
>>315757586
yes. ambitious, but rubbish.
>hey , we wrote a mute character , she communicates through gestures and facial expressions
>but Gamebryo doesn't support those
>Fuck it, we going to do it anyway
But knowing Obsidian, they would still use text, even in UE4.
Reading her lines game me 90s flashbacks.
>>315716369
go ask /tg/
there was a splat book that said that vampires have to expend blood points to digest food
it also takes a blood point to "lube" up
>>315758198
Vamp can spend difference between his humanity and humanity score 7 in blood points to appear Human for the rest of the scene.
>>315745460
>talk to npc
>he's glitched and spazzing out, moving around really fast in dialogue
>malk tells him to stop jumping around
yeah he reads minds
and that reference blew me away when I figured it out
>>315716369
They vomit it back up. Remember what jack said blood is your new everything. Its like a super vice.
>>315762856
>>315763418
Female malk is simply the best... better than all the rest.
>>315758469
so it's free above 7 humanity?
>>315764345
yes. but good luck keeping it.
Btw, blood strike works surprisingly well, maybe I don't even need a gun since it works against vamps too.
Sometimes it's still possible to spam it few times in a row before the first bloodball hit the target. Weird.
What are the chances of people trying to remake Bloodlines, like Project Vaulderie attempted to before CCP shut them down with cease and desist, in some relatively new engine?
>>315764780
What toothpaste do vampires use?
so basically one SJW shithole joke of a dev bought the rights from another SJW shithole joke of a dev
great, i can't wait to play Vampire: The Triggering - Diversity. it'll be so great playing a pangender transblack demiqueer PoC who uses xir pronouns as all of the other landwhale vampires fight the patriarchy
>>315765554
Why is Paradox SJW?
>>315765625
u know that they are swedes right?
do you really think they have the balls to create a character like jeanette again?
>>315764978
project vaulderie is attempting to continue, they contacted paradox with high hopes
>>315765784
swedish developers are less sjw keked than american ones
>>315765868
They did? Could you provide a source for this please?
>>315765784
>they are swedes
nice meme, like above poster said swedish developers are alot less SJW than american ones. It's only our politicians and parts of our massmedia thar are SJW, not our videogame developers. Stop believing everything pol tells you.
>>315766014
you could just jewgle it, you know...
>>315766291
How long will it take them to get a response?
>>315767181
What will happen when sweden democrats win?
>>315720196
Pure sex.
Is it possible for a ghoul to become a full on vampire?
>>315768060
What's that say?
>>315768123
Uh, yeah.
That's how a ton of vampires are born. Being a ghoul acts as a sort of "internship" to see if you're qualified to be Embraced.
Anyway - what's with all the Bloodlines threads again? Is it because CCP lost their grip on White Wolf/Onyx Path products?
Do you honeslty believe anything released will be able to top or compete with Bloodlines?
Shit's dead bros, time to move on.
Which scenarios are the best for someone who never played pnp rpg before? And oWoD or nWoD?
>Vampire
>Werewolf
>Mage
>Changeling
>Promethean:
>Hunter
>>315768371
Full-up question:
Does the sire have to be their original master, or can it be anyone else?
>>315768371
Obsidian are good at making good sequels.
KotOR was arguably good, KotORII was a masterpiece.
Fallout 3 was shit. New Vegas was a solid ARPG with very well developped RPG elements.
Neverwinter Nights 1 was shit. NWN2 MotB was a masterpiece that is only second to PS:T when it comes to writing quality.
If anyone can pull it off, it's Obsidian.
>>315768659
>not enough room for all my fallout 4 threads
>>315765202
please anyone
>>315768647
To be fair, Sverigedemokraterna does have new-nazi roots.
>>315768672
>Does the sire have to be their original master
No. You can kek a vampire by embracing his ghoul even when the ghoul is blood bound.
>>315768647
Oh, vi är means we are
I guess that makes sense
>>315768659
god forbid people talk about a good game on /v/ instead of the AAA slop you faggots like to talk about
>>315768923
>kek
What is this devilry? I wrote "kek". C U C K
>>315768672
Can be anyone else, but it's hard to break the blood bond between Ghoul and master.
I'm not sure if being Embraced nullifies the Blood Bond, I can't remember. Probably does.
>>315768594
If you're familiar with Bloodlines go with Vampire 20th Anniversary, it'll be the easiest to get into. You'll probably end up doing a Masquerade wanna-be instead of fulling embracing what the setting has to offer (Jyhad, Gehenna, etc), but it's a start.
Werewolf is pretty cool, a lot less limiting thanks to the fact that mortals will always disbelieve what a werewolf does. I forget what it's called -- I wanna say the Shroud but I don't think that's right. It's been a while.
Mage is fun and great for rewarding creative problem solving.
Changeling I dunno, never played either iteration. Same with Promethean.
oWoD Hunter (The Reckoning) is awful, avoid at all costs unless you wanna play as the Priest guys from Bloodlines. nWoD Hunter (The Vigil) is great if you have a good storyteller; monster hunting as a normal dude is pretty based.
>>315768836
They use memegate
>>315769214
>tumblr gif
Someone should kill you
>>315769045
KEK 2bh fâm
I'm going to marry Pisha!
>>315769045
lol
when did this happen?
reminds me of harbl
>>315768785
>Obsidian are good at making good sequels.
They're good at making expansion packs with great stories. I'll give you that. But building games from the ground up? Fuck... no. Alpha Protocol is hilariously bad gameplay wise and Neverwinter Nights 2 is one of the worst cRPGs ever made in terms of gameplay.
Also, for the record, I found KOTOR2 to be a pretentious piece of drivel shoehorned into what could easily be considered an expansion pack.
I liked NV but, again, expansion pack.
MOTB I need to check out again... when it was released my computer was a toaster but I really disliked all of the special snowflake NPCs that tagged along with you.
Either way, I wouldn't want Obsidian to touch VTMB. They'd fuck up the gameplay majorly. Now, if they could release a direct sequel aka expansion pack like all of their half decent games, I'd be okay with it, but by this time VTMB is so old it would be impossible.
>>315769597
Lucky you. Take care of her, okay?
>>315710764
I just installed the game since I have nothing to play now (I don't really feel like playing anything).
Got the patch 9.4 and it's asking me what version to install.
Either basic or with additional content.
Where can I find some info on what's in the additional content?
Should I just install everything?
Is Tremere good for a first playthrough?
>>315716369
>>315758198
>>315758469
Yup. They spend blood to make themselves appear and act and feel like normal human beings, to blend in and disguise better, for feasting or otherwise.
>>315770206
thanks desu senpai
>>315770948
Basic is just all bugs fixed for the original game (well most at least) while additional adds some new animations, sound effects/voice acting (bad) and changes some locations of the items and stuff like that.. as well as a fan-made restored quest location that didn't make it into the original game and some new quests.
Probably more but that is what I know incase you don't find more info about it.
>>315770948
Don't do additional content unless you like shitty mods and unnecessary, out-of-place stuff.
Everything is good first playthrough except Nosferatu. People say save Malkavian for a second playthrough too but I've also heard it's interesting with the dialogue the first time around.
>>315771138
kek they swapped t b h f a m too
>>315771217
I remember I got some earlier version of the patch with all the info what's in it but this time it's just a installer.
I think I'll go with the basic version for a first playthrough.
I'd really want to play as a malkavian since I played as one a lifetime ago with friends but I see that's not adviseable since they are crazy.
>>315769934
>I found KOTOR2 to be a pretentious piece of drivel
Opinion discarded. There's nothing "pretentious" about it, unless you consider any story with a philosophical subtext as being "pretentious".
>>315771445
Yeah probably a good idea.
Hope you enjoy it, bruh
>>315769934
which company would you realistically have take over VTMB than obsidian? at least they have some connections with Troika, even. Bioware? Bethesda? EA games?
>>315764780
Bloodstrike worked for me until I reached Hollywood I think
>>315771601
Thank you anon.
>>315771716
Not him and I think Obsidian is a good choice but I wouldn't mind seeing what CD Projekt would make with the IP as well.
Anyone who is cool with making an actual Cyberpunk game is alright in my book.
What happens if a guy gets embraced by two vampires at the same time
>>315772020
>CD Projekt
They couldn't make a good RPG even if their life depended on it.
>>315772301
Alright EA then
>>315772301
>They couldn't make a good RPG even if their life depended on it.
>>315772268
one with more potent blood becomes the sire, i'd wager
>>315772432
What about the the Deus Ex devs?
>>315772498
Yes, exactly. You have a problem with that? Are you implying that Witcher games have well fleshed out RPG elements? They don't.
>>315747617
Dont worry you will probably just get wrecked by a hunter or werewolf and be doomed to an eternity of danmnation because Catholic god us canon and hates vampires.
>>315772657
But they do.
>>315772657
CDPR is probably the only modern developer that could do justice to VtM:B in terms of atmosphere/presentation. They'd definitely need to step it up in terms of RPG mechanics from The Witcher though.
>>315772657
if rpg codex says they're good rpgs then it's good enough for me. they know more about rpgs than your uneducated ass
>>315772657
The Witcher games are getting better in my opinion but okay. If Cyberpunk is good then I wouldn't mind a Vampire game from them.
>>315772887
Except they don't. I've made a lengthy post why Witcher games are shit RPGs in some of the previous Witcher threads, perhaps you've read them. All I'm going to say now is that Witcher games have:
>shit character generation (can't pick initial class, advantages/disadvantages/skills anything that makes your character unique)
>shit character advancement
>shit character customization - you are dead set in a certain character archetype, you cannot focus on other 3 "S" (Speak, Sneak, Slay) archetypes apart from "Slay"
>shit (literally none) C&C outside of dialogue choices
The only time when your character build matters in Witcher games is during combat. That's not how a good RPG is designed.
A good RPG allows you to complete and fail quests in different ways based on the different skills of your character as well as your dialogue choices while in Witcher games your build is literally irrelevant when determining possible quest solutions, only your dialogue choices matter.
Witcher games are poor RPGs and are literally VNs with a real time combat system.
>>315772965
You are literally the embodiment of an unwashed pleb. Your opinion is worthless, because you don't even have one.
>>315771716
Shadowrun guys may actually do a great job.
>>315773778
I agree with you completely, but CDPRfags usually excuse this with "it's okay this is shit because accuracy to muh books/lore"
We'll have to see how Cyberpunk turns out
>>315772268
Lower generation sire overrides higher generation sire.
>>315747879
if its isometric shit, I ain't playing it.
>>315774372
WAT IF THEY ARE THE SAME GENERATOT BUT DIFFERENT SPECIES OF BAMPIRE
ONE IS GANGREN AND ONE IS TORTADOR
Also, another thing to consider for all of those, who claim that CDPR would be able to make a good sequel to Bloodlines.
Remember all those times when you failed a stat/skill check in Witcher games? Remember when you could/couldn't complete a quest in a certain way because your character was/wasn't built to fit the appropriate archetype?
Yeah, me neither, because Witcher games have none of that, which is exactly what made Bloodlines a good RPG, since you could (or couldn't) complete quests in different ways based on your social (Intimidation, Seduction, Persuasion) and other skills.
>>315774193
>Shadowrun guys may actually do a great job.
Make it the guys who wrote Dragonfall and I'll agree with you.
>>315773778
>3 "S"
>>315774517
CDPRkiddie detected.
You're Camarilla right /v/?
>>315710764
>>315710764
NOSFERATU STEALTH SURVIVAL HORROR GAME HIDING FROM NIKTUKU WHEN?
>>315773778
Who would you pick for developing a new VTM RPG then?
>>315773778
go back to wizardry you colossal faggot
you know how fucking pathetic a person is when their argument relies on the arbitrary 'requirements' of a genre.
>>315774976
Iron Tower, Obsidian or the Dragonfall team.
>>315774671
Well excuse me for not liking isometric camera movement.
>>315775053
I like the cut of your jib.
>>315775053
most people want a vtmb 2, not another fucking isometric game. vtmb's shit combat makes it ideal for cdpr because that way it will be able to excel in other aspects
>>315774808
ANARCH
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2bh
>>315711824
You'd rather have fallout 4 shitposting threads?
Maybe you want to go back to shitting on the Downgrade Witcher 3 edition right before /v/ started sucking Geralt's pole?
best clan for beginners??
>>315774572
>who wrote Dragonfall
Well, they also have really good designers and artists.
>>315769206
Thanks. Gonna check if my friends are interested in either Vampire or Hunter The Vigil
>>315775392
Malkavian
>>315745752
>>315716976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYmiwbO5icc
Obsidian and Paradox please
>>315775347
>vtmb's shit combat makes it ideal for cdpr
Because Witcher games are known for their good combat? Kek.
Combat is the last thing that made Bloodlines good. I don't want a shit RPG with good combat, I want a good RPG with whatever combat that is no worse than that of the original.
>>315775347
I want a properly fleshed out CRPG with a huge amount of player choice I don't care if it's isometric or action-based. CDPR only "excels" in pretty graphics, the amount of player choice in their games is sorely lacking.
>>315775539
thats a good one
alright I'm going to start a run
this time I'm going to play as a gangrel fighter and I'm gonna fuck shit up
is it possible to beat the werewolf in a fist fight? I tried to kill it with a tremere using that shitty blood attack and I got raped
>>315769206
>>315775430
Fuuuck, Hunter sounds cool as fuck.
>>315768594
I like nWoD more, but I'm a weird one in WoD community.
nWoD and oWoD have different themes. There is a Resident Evil-Silent Hill comparison somewhere.
If you want to get into oWoD, i.e. VtM, get 20th anniversary edition. oWoD mainlines are strong, but 1 off lines are kinda bad, even ones I like, Daemons and Wraith are somewhat clunky, with The Fallen I just recommend reading the corebook and never looking at it again.
nWoD is a bit different, arguably one off lines are the meat here, Hunter is great, Changeling is widely praised, many people like Promethean, but almost no one plays it. Main lines are also good, but compared to oWoD they have completely different feel.
There is also God Machine Chronicle update for nWoD.
As for where to start, start with your local gamestore\anticafe, see what they have t offer. If you want to assemble a party yourself, just read quick summary on lines you're interested in and work from there.
>>315775392
Toreador or Brujah.
>>315775749
No, not unless you're using some mod that makes it killable.
>>315775754
It's so good it'scuhrazy
>>315776081
How different is Requiem from The Masquerade? I always see people fighting because of those two.
>>315772938
>>315772657
>>315773240
Shit. CD Projekt did a grand job of capturing the Witcher universe.
You can tell they really researched and put a great deal of effort and passion into it.
Too bad they're doing Cyberpunk and that will probably take another 4 years to finish.
That'd be great if they could get their hands on a World of Darkness game.
>>315776483
Pretty damn different in some areas, not so much in others. It removed a lot of the backstory and lore, in favor of a "vampires exist now, but they're not sure where they come from", cut the number of clans to 5(sort of), and overall has a bit of a different tone in regards to what it means to be a vampire.
It also did away with the sects, instead introducing a number of factions that co-exist. So instead of Camarilla only cities, Sabbat only territory, etc., and them always being at war, you have a handful of factions(political and spiritual), and they can all have presence in a city where they play politics, instead of bitterly destroying eachother. This part is pretty cool, in my opinion, and makes for some more interesting stories.
>>315776742
Pretty much the only ones to potentially capture the Bloodlines feel too.
Obsidian would turn it into Pillars of Vampire:Balanced Edition with as much pretentious writing they could cram into it.
>>315776483
main difference is scale and theme.
It's in the book itself.
VtM is bigger in scale and main theme is Gothic Punk, VtR is smaller in scale and main theme is Personal Horror.
In VtM there are conspiracies spanning continents, in VtR most citiesup to DMare separated from each other and Vampires traveling from one city to another are uncommon.
VtM also uses hard meta, with lore set in books, VtR, just like all nWoD, more focuses on pick and chose style with "rumors".
Old rules are clunky as hell, VtR is more streamlined but there is some wacky stuff, Blood and Smoke fixed some of it, but introduced new problems.
I like B&S or VtR system more, even if it's not realistic it keeps the game going, combat is not the main aspect of these systems.
>>315776861
>>315777170
Well fuck, one more to check out then. My friend and I wanted to play pnp rpg but we never played anything before so we've been checking WoD, both old and new, and DnD.
>>315776057
>That's because there's a predefined character.
That's not why the character generation is shit, it's shit because the game is a shit RPG. Torment had a pre-defined character, yet the stat distribution decisions you made in the first minutes of the game had a profound impact on the gameplay and possible quest solutions.
>The advancement is just fine.
No, it's not. Witcher RPG system is nowhere near that of any actually good RPGs. None of the perks you pick have any impact on possible quest solutions whatsoever and all of them are related only to the "Slay" archetype - the archetype of a character who solves problems via combat.
Meanwhile, in actually good RPGs, you have entire branches of skills and perks that deal not only with combat efficiency of your character, but also with his ability to solve problems in a diplomatic and sneaky manners.
A good character development system is a system that allows you to branch into any of the 3 archetypes and combine them in any way you wish, it does not set you on a predefined path and keep you there like that of the Witcher games.
>These sound like arbitrary requirements you pulled out of your ass.
So, you've never played Bloodlines then? Bloodlines was a good RPG because you could advance your character in the direction of any archetype out of those three. Stealth? Combat? Diplomacy? All check. You could mix and match skills, stats and disciplines as well and all of them influenced your ability possible quest solutions.
>Variance in combat
Irrelevant. It makes for good encounter design, which is not a RPG element.
>good atmosphere
Irrelevant, because it's subjective and not a RPG element.
>quality of writing and dialogue
Irrelevant, because it's subjective and is not a RPG elemnt. You can have plain text descriptions of events and characters and easily make an amazing RPG. Just look at Age Of Decadence.
>>315776057
>It sounds like you're trying to force table-top rules
No, I'm telling what made Bloodlines actually good, what made it a cult classic, which are exactly the things I've described now.
>>315777376
If you're new, and going in blind, VtR might be easier since you don't have to pay so much attention to the backstory. Then again, it's your game man, you can do whatever. I'd figure out what kind of characters you think sound cool, and chose a system based on that. If you want to play stuff from Bloodlines, pick up VtM 20th Anniversary. If you just want to get into pnp in general, and don't care where you start, I'd recommend Hunter: The Vigil instead.
>discussion of oWoD and nWoD
I like some of the VtR artwork, but that's really it.
Oh and I enjoyed the tidbits of some guy's story in the Daeva book.
>>315777756
>>315777376
...especially because the Slasher expansion for it is so goddamn cool.
>>315777860
Hey, Loreguy, do you have VtM artwork from those books? I'd be partial to VtR artwork as well so long as it was decent.
I made a thread on /tg/, but no one's replying.
>hyped to play as the Nos for the first time
>oh boy oh boy, can't wreck the Schreck
>end up some weirdo with piercings in bondage gear
>no other Nos in the game even looks like this, it's just you
But why?
>>315777756
>>315777860
I feel like he's gonna love Hunter: The Vigil.
>>315777425
>That's not why the character generation is shit, it's shit because the game is a shit RPG.
Except that's wrong. The stat distribution has a profound effect on the combat which is an important part of the gameplay.
>the archetype of a character who solves problems via combat.
Right, because that's what the character is about. And your stat distribution has different effects on how that archetype plays out giving you variance to the gameplay.
>you've never played Bloodlines then?
I've played and beaten bloodlines several times. What I'm saying is your arbitrary requirements for an RPG aren't required to make a good RPG. Having variance in one focused aspect can also make a good RPG.
>good encounter design
>not an RPG element
>good atmosphere
>not important for an RPG or any other dialogue or story based genre of video game
You keep throwing around the word subjective, too, as if all of this isn't inherently subjective.
> I'm telling what made Bloodlines actually good
Which is the great writing and atmosphere followed by multiple choices for progression. The Witcher also has this even if they're focused on combat.
I deleted my original post because we fundamentally disagree on not only what defines an RPG, but what defines a good one, and realistically, there's not much more of a conclusion we're going to get from this other than "I don't agree".
>>315778113
>>315777998
I don't have pictures, I have scanned pages. But not a lot of VtR, as it was rarely the focus for these threads. Only got the clanpages, in fact, but I suppose I could whip something up. I have some vidya to play as soon as my friend gets offfrom work, not from me, so I don't know what I'll have time for.
>>315778113
That one who was a beautiful model in life looks like a body modification fetishist
>>315775754
Hunters are pretty cool. You can also do a lot with them.
Detective stories, spy stories, kick the door in type of stories, some stores with moral dilemmas, etc.
I mean some hunters are the biggest dick of them all.
4chan is giving me shit right now. When I try to chose an image to upload, it just refreshes the explorer window, and I have to click 10+ times before it get's the message. Anyone had this happen before?
Alright, that was all I had already cropped. Let me dig out my pdf's and see what might be cool. That is, if this is what you were looking for. Would you like text, or just art?
>>315713651
>what's more moral, emotionally and physically abusing someone, or not doing that?
hmmmmmm, the world may never know anon. Also, the obsession with you will wear off. And since she only had 1 drink of your blood, it's not that bad to begin with.
>>315778456
Damn, poor nigga.
>>315776861
>cut the number of clans to 5(sort of), and overall has a bit of a different tone in regards to what it means to be a vampire.
I actually really liked it. I also liked that clans were centered around the theme and bloodlines are more specific.
Poor Ventrue, Beautiful Nosferatu, so many possibilities of making more unique characters centered around a theme instead of a stereotype. It's possible in VtM, but much easier in VtR.
>>315774808
Antitribu, fuck the bolice, fuck the anarchs, fuck everyone.
>girl dying in hospital
>tell her it was vampire blood so she knows what's happened to her
>she gets mad and the guard attacks me
what
>>315778856
>Poor Ventrue, Beautiful Nosferatu, so many possibilities of making more unique characters centered around a theme instead of a stereotype. It's possible in VtM, but much easier in VtR
I agree, VtR offers a lot more freedom, and some of the way it presents vampire society makes much more sense in the modern age.
That said, I'm a sucker for the lore in VtM, and it's what I was exposed to first.
>>315778225
Look, I'm not going to argue with you further because you obviously have no clue what a RPG is and are either arguing for argument's sake, are a genuine retard, or a Witcherdrone with a chip on your shoulder. I don't really care which "archetype" fits your case.
If you want to prove that CDPR can make a good sequel to Bloodlines, then show me that Witcher games have a character advancement system, in which the various skills and perks you pick influence not only the combat efficiency of your character, but also open and/or close possible quests and their solutions.
This is important, because it was at the core of VtM:B gameplay, where having a high enough skill like lockpicking, computers or any of the social skills (intimidation, persuasion, seduction) governed the ways in which you could solve many of the quests.
Oh, wait, you can't do that, because Witcher games have nothing of the sort. So, yeah, you have no clue what you're talking about and I'm better off not wasting my brain cells on useless attempts at educating your ass.
>>315778958
>Breaking the masquerade
>>315778914
But you can be antitribu in the camarilla my friend. Antitribu is not a sect, but (in most cases) means you are not affiliated with the sect your clan has pledged support to.
>>315746969
I was actually planning on running a V:tM campaign set in Berlin. Whether it starts in the 80s and then there's a timeskip or not depends on how quickly the Turks showed up in Berlin IRL.
Any Germans here? Did the Turkish minority show up in the 90s, or were they around as Gastarbeiters since the Wiederaufbau?
>>315779087
How did all the other ghouls come into being then?
>>315778958
>telling a normal human vampires exist
>breaking the masquerade this hard
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
Can I be a priest who kicks ass in the name of the Lord?
>>315779164
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BCrken_in_Berlin
>>315765554
Just so you know, anon, WoD has been associated with fringe progressivism/liberalism since the 90s.
>>315778958
>lying in hospital
>some pale weirdo come into your room
>forces her blood down your throat
>wtf
I'd be pretty confuse and mad too.
>>315779214
You need approval from your Prince.
Or you hide them very well, risking Final Death.
>>315777998
H-hello? Do you want art or text? Or both?
>>315779452
But it tastes good tough.
>>315779121
I forgot to specify that im Ventrue.
>>315779214
Because you must wait until the blood takes effect you cock mongler, also you didn't know that even accepting you are a vampire when you speak with Ghouls unless you are 100% sure they are under control you break the masquerade?
>>315779072
>then show me that Witcher games have a character advancement system, in which the various skills and perks you pick influence not only the combat efficiency of your character, but also open and/or close possible quests and their solutions.
I already did. The core of the RPG gameplay is in the combat, and the various ways you can proceed with it. If you can only see that as "one solution", then you've already missed my point.
But, yeah, better insult me and be an asshole. That will prove your argument correct. Never mind that I tried to stop the argument before it proceeded or that I outright said we fundamentally disagree on what makes an RPG. Nope, gotta' be arguing just to argue at this point.
Is Dark Ages any good?
>>315779636
His dead.
ITT: people who don't understand that letting Heather die was the most natural AND merciful thing to do.
Once a human or any other vampire, for that matter, drinks a vampire's blood, his perception of the "donor" is going to be altered significantly. They feel a compulsion to follow your orders and submit to your will, which is literally brainwashing.
After drinking the blood of his master thrice, a ghoul becomes blood bound and is literally a slave of his sire and cannot disobey him no matter he is ordered to do and no matter how painful/uncomfortable it is.
So, if you gave Heather your blood, you literally mind raped here there and then. Hope you're into that kind of stuff.
>Vampire threads for last few years turning into /CCP hate generals/ and imagining a future where obsidian got to the franchise first
>Now a obsidian game looks likely and people are saying it will be shit
You nay sayers should just be happy were going to see a new title at all
>>315780007
>He's
I should get some sleep.I'll drop by your office tomorrow and we can start sorting this mess out.
>>315780007
It's pretty cool, yeah.
>>315780146
we're discussing PnP for past 2 hours. What are you even talking about?
I started playing this game yesterday. I can't change the looks of the character which is bad for an RPG but willing to overlook that flaw.
The combat is meh, the city looks pretty small and too many prostitutes walking around which ruins immersion.
The biggest problem are the bugs. I just finished resolving the feud with big titted blondie and Voldemort and after talking to the latter, my character is always facing backwards and moves in the wrong direction.
>>315778283
>>315779636
Sorry, had to step out of the house for a bit.
Just art is fine.
>>315763847
>the most dangerous intersections in LA
>>315763774
i just like the
>i saw dinosaurs so I had fun!
quote.
>>315780364
Alright. I'm just cropping stuff as I go, so might not be fast. Also, 4chan keeps fucking with me.
>>315780678
Yeah, that's fine. I'm in no rush. And thank you.
>>315779332
See, I planned on taking some liberties with V:tM lore and using an Islamic covenant from Dark Ages, the Ashirra, as another faction for my players to deal with alongside the Camarilla, the Brujah Council/Anarchs, and the Sabbat. I was planning on having the Ashirra set up shop in Berlin thanks to the influx of Turkish immigrants. According to this
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einwanderung_aus_der_T%C3%BCrkei_in_die_Bundesrepublik_Deutschland
link, as well as the one you posted, it looks to me like the minority was well established enough by the mid-to-late 80s for this to make sense, yeah?Mein Deutsch ist leider nicht gut genug ganze Wikipediartikeln zu verstehen
I don't know why, but art in B&S felt kinda wrong. not bad, but wrong. maybe because it's all in colour or something.
>>315780850
>Germanboo
ekelhaft
The next game desperately needs to feature representatives of the other Brujah factions, namely Idealists and Individualists.
Since many Bloodlines players had no understanding of the lore before playing the game, it has created a wide-spread misconception that all Brujah are these shitty Anarch punks, which is not even remotely true.
I want to play a combat oriented, Idealist ex-Soviet Brujah vampire-soldier, dammit. AK totting and chopping off heads with a special forces shovel while fighting to bring upon an age of peace and understanding between humans and Kindred never gets old.
Actually, a lot of this art isn't that good. I'll be a bit more selective from now on.
>>315781687
Ich bin auch Araber. Pass auf, weil ich dein Land mit meiner Scheißhaut und meinem schlechten Deutschverständnis verschmutzen :^)
Anyone else feels a warm feeling inside knowing that /v/ in 2015 has such a dedicated WoD community?
>>315782436
>verschmutzen will*
>>315782480
It's funny that this place is such an owod stronghold, yet very few people seem to have played the tabletop
The view on the cargo ship, of a sunrise coming is very touching.
Also, the game is somewhat rushed. You character is turned into a vampire and within mere days or hours, since the game doesn't give any clear idea of the passing of the time, is talking about clans, kine and kindred like he was a vampire for days.
And how letting Samantha call your friends/family is a masquerade breach? For they know you simply disappeared. Finding you won't make them automaticaly concludes that you became a vampire.
>>315783080
>And how letting Samantha call your friends/family is a masquerade breach? For they know you simply disappeared. Finding you won't make them automaticaly concludes that you became a vampire.
Because it means they'll start looking even harder for you.
>>315783080
>he was a vampire for years.
Fix'd.
Gonna go soon, I'll just finish off with a few bloodlines. Bloodlines are offshoots of clans, a concept that technically exists in VtM too, but there are many more in VtR, and some cover the "old" clans.
>>315784107
That's fine. Thank you for posting all this.
I don't get it, in the Anarchs ending, why did he laugh at his death?
I remember when I was trying to get into WH fantasy and I went to a gaming club to play with a friend.
There were some guys playing this tabletop game and there was one gangrel player that was able to kill everything because he was doing some kind of special damage that prevented them from healing or something.
I was interested in the game because I played Bloodlines before that but I only played Ventrue and Tremere characters. Can any of those two clans do that special damage? What's the name of that ability?
>>315784361
He snapped.
>wanna read up on some VtR 2nd Edition aka Blood and Smoke
>can't find a fucking download link for the pdf
Why is it so hard to find? Literally found everything else VtM and VtR related while looking for it.
>>315784361
ISOLATED
>>315784361
What did you expect, he panicking like a little bitch?
Why doesn't anyone directly tell you what's in the coffin?
>>315784361
Lacroix is a petulant child who thinks he's manipulating you the entire time, in the Anarch ending he learns otherwise and can't handle that he's been rused so hard.
>>315784361
Because he realized he got played and just lost his shit. Like when he lost his shit when you tell himthe sarcophagus got stolen
>>315784404
>What's the name of that ability?
Deal aggravated damage.
In the tabletop, there are 3 kinds of damage: bashing, lethal, and aggravated. Bashing is generally blunt weaponry, punching, etc. If a mortal fills their health track (the health bar, basically) with bashing damage they're unconscious, and any further bashing is upgraded to lethal. Vamps stay awake with a bar full of bashing, and can heal 2 points of bashing damage per blood point
Lethal damage is stabbing, gunshots (unless you're a vampire, in which case guns deal bashing damage). Lethal kills mortals when their tracks are filled, and knocks vamps into torpor. Vamps can heal 1 point of this per blood point spent.
Aggravated damage is stuff that's really hard to heal - burns, supernatural claws (like Gangrel can grow with the Protean discipline, which is what you saw that one player using), silver for werewolves, etc. Aggravated kills a human with a full track, and will give a vamp the ol' Final Death. Vamps can only heal 1 point of this per 2 blood points spent IIRC, and since most vamps can only spend 1 blood point a round, it really fucks them over. Tremere can deal aggravated if they learn the path of flames and shoot fire everywhere (although they'll probably make themselves frenzy in the process), but other than that no other clan gets a built-in aggravated damage ability that I can remember, barring the few other clans that can learn blood magic like the Assamites and Tzimisce. Oh, I think the Tzimisce can also do it with Vicissitude, I'm not sure.
Whoops, that was the last one. Take care space cowboys.
>>315784829
Uh, they do tell you. But nobody knows for sure except 2-3 people, so what most people tell you is what they believe is in the coffin.
>>315784404
Aggravated damage.
Protean Discipline that allows him to grow magical claws that deal aggravated damage.
>>315784829
they do
>>315774808
i want to be Camarilla Tzimische
>>315784829
Because they simply don't know. The ones who know are, basically Jack (who set up the trap) and Caine.
>>315786680
>>315785238
why does Bekett become spooked by the coffin at the end of the game?
>>315786678
magilla gorilla kinda is
>>315786798
I'm not too sure on this one. Was Beckett afraid of the possibility of an antidelluvian waking up, or did he see Cain at some point while tailing you?
I agree with the other guy above that I don't want CDPR making a new WoD game. Even if people enjoy their games I don't think they would be able to make a similar game. I don't have any good expectations for Cyberpunk either but hey, maybe they'll surprise me.
Obsidian's really the only one I can think of that at least has a chance to make a good game with the license, and maybe Ice Pick Lodge as someone was talking about above. Maybe some isometric RPG devs too but I don't want an isometric RPG as the first game to come out.
>>315786825
well yeah he's a spec afrikan bloodline
what i want is an old school eastern european Tzimische as Cam player
>>315786998
>old school eastern european
There's a high likehood that may have jewish ancestry
>>315786931
i guess it's left vague on purpose to troll the player
the whole sarcophagus business is a troll
>>315787123
Yeah but Beckett is scared shitless the final time you run into him. I don't know what in the game could have freaked him out like that.
>>315787347
well he says it's because he senses something bad
>>315787347
Maybe trying to spook you out!
Or he talked with jack.
>>315787347
Why wouldn't he be scared? Either he settled on it being a vampire(and old as fuck vampires are always really fucking bad news in VtM), or he found out what was inside it, which is also cause for running away, spooked like a motherfucker.
>>315786678
No such thing
>>315787450
IIRC, Beckett has Auspex. It's quite possible he just found out what was in it, or that, yes, he sensed it was really bad news.
>>315710764
Ok i've downloaded this game once before and loved it (even though I was glitched out of quests while using the UOP).
I've uninstalled it but wish to replay it again, where should I require it (the bay has like only 14 seeders) and the patch.
I wanna feel ISOLATED again
>>315787958
That's... not strictly true.
Forsaken would have the most adaptable gameplay mechanics.
CURRENTLY BEING ALONE WITH NO SOCIAL CONTACT
>>315783627
>anus
>vagoo
>balls
>>315710764
I'm bad at grammar.
>>315788312
I'm gonna give this to you just because you posted Junko.https://mega.nz/#F!1h8j2ZAR!0vm0-l6uBIfid-UZxCiQnA
I can't get over how good Hollywood is. I can spend ten minutes just walking around trying to exhaust the OST theme. If there is one thing I can ask whoever will be making the next Vampire RPG is to recreate that feeling.
>>315788312
Disk 1
http://www.old-games.ru/game/download/get.php?fileid=9299&modal=1
Disk 2
http://www.old-games.ru/game/download/get.php?fileid=9300&modal=1
Disk 3
http://www.old-games.ru/game/download/get.php?fileid=9301&modal=1
Use the True Patch:
http://www.tessmage.com/tpg/True_Patch_Gold_FINAL_with_Hotfix8.rar
>>315788836
>>315788867
Thank you based anons
>>315776189
Hmm...
>>315789262
Yeah. Artist got canned over that.
>>315789262
Yeah if I recall the artist got blacklisted. Shouldn't have gotten past the editors but what can you do?
Dream vampire game?
I just want tight melee controls like Chivalry
>>315788867
This shit is in Russian
>>315780114
>hope you're into that kind of stuff
>>315780114
just feed her blood to save her and then send her away forever
weak blood blonds dont last forever
she keeps her life
>>315780114
>implying people who roleplay as vampires aren't into that sort of stuff
>>315789823
There are two links at the bottom after you fill out the captcha, one for torrent download another for using browser http. The game disks are completely english.
So what are the chances that Paradox will use nWoD rather than oWoD?
>>315780114
>Hope you're into that kind of stuff.
I am.
Also, what kind of an argument is that? You should only do things in vidya that you are into? What games can you even play then?
>>315791382
Euro Truck Simulator
>>315791142
We don't know. Bloodlines was made before nWoD so it fit into the timeline with that. There's really no reason they'd have to go with nWoD even though the world ended in that, they could just have a new story set before the world ended. And if they want to make a similar game to Bloodlines I think it would be better to go with oWoD.
What does the Masquerade say about anal
>>315792004
Anon with the tough questions
>>315790559
Whats the difference between the true patch and the Plus Patch?
>>315792590
True Patch fixes bugs and that's it, doesn't mess with content otherwise.
The Unnoficial Patch (Plus Patch as you say) doesn't just fix bugs but also modifies content, adds supposedly deleted dialog and other things. It seems to have a basic option that deals with bugs only but I can't confirm that.
So lets say I'm a Tzimisce can I use my Vicissitude to hold my two handfuls of dirt inside my body? I mean I could use bonecrafting or fleshcrafting to make two containers that could hold the soil in my gut or something.
Would that satisfy my native soil requirement?
>>315793031
Can I substitute the True patch for the Plus patch?
>>315791142
0.
oWoD has a legendary status, among players that don't play WoD, and most people don't care about WoD in general, they want Bloodlines 2.
>>315793161
Each has to be installed separately. You can't mix or install on top. It's not really important which one to install, unless you're a purist.
>>315793039
Probably, but as an ST I wouldn't allow it for reducing the clan's already weak drawback.
>>315793547
I want the Plus patch. Do I only install the Plus patch by itself or is the True/Basic Patch needed as well to use the Plus Patch?
>>315793714
When you install Wesp's patch it'll ask you if you want basic or plus. True patch is an entirely separate thing.
best WoD waifu coming through
What was your reaction to meeting Jeanette the first time?
>meet Jeanette
>she's talking about mowing my fresh ass or something
>people in the background doing that fucking dance to ISOLATED
mfw
>then get into the dance circle and start spasticly moving the mouse around.
>>315794795
>ohgodagirlistalkingtomewhatdoido
>>315775749
On wesp plus patch you can
>>315794795
>First time playing I'm a Nosferatu because they were my favorite clanin the tabletop RPG
>Jeanette walks up
>Starts acting like she wants my dick hard
>"Lol bitch you're fuckin' crazy"
>She goes off on her into shpeel blah blah blah
>Later go hit on some chick and scare her off
>Call the bartender a cunt
10/10 goty
>>315777860
there's a port of HtV to oWoD, right?
>>315786798
>high level explosive jammed in a coffin strong enough to kill vampires
Why wouldn't you be spooked?
If I walked into a room and knew there was a bomb inside of it, I'd probably be kind of spooked, too.
>>315795390
this senpai
>>315792004
it's okay as long as they don't know you're a vampire
>>315779331
Pretty sure that's what Hunter is for, at least in the tabletop
>>315780301
did you get the unofficial patch?
>>315788867
>use the true patch
>>315794795
>"Oh hey, this is the girl from the threads"
I hadn't come to these threads at the time, just saw her in the OP a lot
>>315793870
Another anon here. Just finish downloading all three do I open them through poweriso or should I get demontools?
>>315798818
>theyre not using windows 8+
>>315798818
exorcise that shit nigga
>>315798942https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqB1uoDTdKM
I'm new to this, extract?
>>315798818
Just get daemon tools lite and mount the first disk. Procceed with the installation, it will ask when you "insert" disk 2 and so on, so just mount the corresponding one until you're finised. After game installation install the patch you want.
>>315796410
Not that I know of, but I'm not sure what point it would serve. Are you sure you're not thinking of old Hunter?
>>315799096
Mount Poweriso into Daemontools
>>315732285
Blood purge works against every human form.
>no "going away with Beckett to explore kindred lore" ending
Why bother?
>>315799230
Because new hunter is much better than old hunter
>>315797947
Yes. I instealled the Plus patch (restored contents).
>>315798818
Dont listen to the memers.
Ultariso or bust.
UltraIso 4 ever. Other pleb mounting tools need not apply.
>>315799590
Thats, uh, weird. I *think* the numpad might have something to do with your camera issues. I forget if that's something I set on my game or if it's already there. If not I believe there's ways to bind camera movement to a key so it could fix stuff up, just enable console
>>315799503
Yeah it is
>>315799503
Well, yes, but why set it in oWoD? The kind of stories nWoD is trying to set up doesn't really necessitate a "port". You could set it in oWoD out of the box. HtV doesn't place emphasis on hunters knowing a whole lot about vampire society.
Is there actually any mod that gives the Nosferatu the Max Schreck coat instead of that stupid gimp suit? I would love to have that. If not, can you at least tell me how to transfer the ventrue heavy coat to Nosferatu? Or doesn't this work because of different character models?
>>315784107
Diablerized his sire, what an asshole.
>>315712358
Vampires in WoD can circulate their blood and perform any of the normal human bodily functions. The only difference is that they have to actively control the process rather than having it just happen automatically. It also expends vitae which is the energy vampires derive from blood so she'd probably have to feed on someone if she'd smoked ten in a row or something.
>>315800482
I dunno, having them sort of figure out some of VtM society would be neat I guess
>>315712358
I like the idea of a high humanity newly embraced still smoking out of an old habit
Why are vampires scared of the thin bloods?
Wouldn't it just take high gens to sire more vampires with a controlled generation?
>>315804497
Because it's linked to gehenna or something. That and thin bloods tend to break the masquerade a bit due to being uneducated
>>315716369
food turns to ash
>>315804497
Thin-bloods are a sign of Gehenna, afaik.
Also, they could be dangerous for the Masquerade, as they are able to resist sunlight, digest food, and shows signs that their body is alive (nails and hair grow). They are also able to have children, known as dhampirs.
>>315779513
Nah, princes don't care for ghouls. At all actually. Only when the ghoul starts breaking the masquerade is when they would care. Past that, you can make anyone your ghoul but y'know, good luck having all these people depending on your blood being annoying and shit.
For those of you who haven't noticed this, Andrei's little abominations CANNOT hit you with their jump/lunge if you're crouching. Just stay low and batter them about with your melee weapon to keep them from using their close range attacks, and you can fight as many as you want without taking a point of damage.
>>315805901
Is the sledgehammer a good weapon?
>>315776742
>really researched
Bull. Shit. I love the Witcher games, but the first one is essentially fanfiction from someone who had a vague idea of the stories and really had a boner for Triss.
They did so many retcons and asspulls it's not even funny. They did two replacement characters, had Triss become Yen's role, and Alvin become Ciri. It was bizarre.
>>315765554
Why don't people remember that vtmb had a lot of shit in it that would be branded "sjw" by today's /v/.
Off the top of my head:
>pisha's name was taken from her lesbian lover back when she was still alive
>confession chick pays you to kill a "fat, misogynistic old man"
>lacroix is gay
>>315809715
are you being serious?
>>315809715
Quit baiting, nerd.
>>315805368
I thought that was requiem? they throw up the food in Vtm
>>315805901
If you get good timing you can also just hit them as they're lunging
>>315806565
It's a good weapon, lot of damage but I think that the supernatural creatures are resistant to blunt damage. Probably better off with a bladed weapon like the axe
>>315809715
>>lacroix is gay
source?
i've never seen charm dialgoue on him as male pc
>>315804003
Then do just that. You don't need to port anything to use the setting.
>>315810823
Shit, that easy huh?
How is WoD vs DnD?
I've had a few DnD sessions but WoD has always interested me since I was way younger and it's been somewhat of a would-be "dream" to have a long running game with some people. I'm tempted to start up a group. Anyone got experience? I'll prolly hit up /tg/ later but I'd like any of your experience as well.
>>315811217
WoD is a different crowd and a different mindset. It's about roleplaying and psychological horror and what have you. And then you've got some people that play it as vampire superheroes. Just make sure you know what you're getting into.
>>315811217
Highest concentration of dykes and fat women than any other setting from my experience. But your local scene might be different.
A little question:
The Unofficial patch informs me that I should start playing through the patch icon but the normal steam shortcut works as well.
Use the normal one?
>>315811497
>>315811513
Huh. I hadn't considered it would be even weirder people than your average DnD player. Interesting.
>>315811879
If you run it through Steam it'll be vanilla. The patch is only active if you run through the shortcut.
>>315812135
meaning without patch fixes etc.?
did the original game have 1080 support?
since I have it running through the steam icon.
i'll play using the patch shortcut though, just to be safe.
>>315811117
Well... Yes? The rules the system use doesn't prohibit you from certain settings. You could make it a noir investigation in the Teletubbies land if you wanted.
In any case, I highly recommend it. One of the only games where I've bought the physical copy, just to have it.
>>315812795
I just wishI had people to play it with. Working for the feds and fucking up vampire terrorists sounds like a blast
Why does the Wesp's unoffical patch launcher make it sound like there is astronomical amount of echo?
>>315813145
Untick Environmental audio
>>315813145
Go to the PCgamingwiki article and it has some stuff you can do to fix that.
>>315813279
What does that do anyway? Is it just echoes or something?
>>315811217
I think the best way to distinguish the two is that in DnD you play a game, and in WoD you play a role. Much more focus on talking and your personal journey, much less on swordplay and loot.
>>315813036
Have you tried just asking your friends? Preferably ones that play vidya/read comics, or otherwise already engage in something that could be considered non-normie hobbies. The people I play with on regular were all completely new at pnp when we got started, except for our GM.
Otherwise, you can look for online groups that play via skype or IRC, but personally, I really dig the fun and cozy of sitting around the table, shooting the shit and holding our collective breath when an important life-or-death dice roll is being rolled.
>>315810619
>>315810097
>>315809869
Are you trying to tell me that the astute desk guard at Venture Tower was wrong?
Because I trust him over you, losers.
>>315813378
Yes, it's bad software spatialization
>>315813279
Thanks babe. All is good.
>>315811914
Just get used to seeing this girl or a girl exactly like this.
>>315813389
Ah, so generally WoD is more about the social aspect of whatever's going on. Okay, that gives me a better idea of what to expect. Thanks.
>>315813389
I have asked actually. Problem is none of us have the time and while all of us are interested in doing tabletop stuff, only half of us want to do anything other than pathfinder. We're all pretty new too. I dunno, maybe someday
>>315813515
Strange how it's ticked on by default when there's no reason to even have it in the game
>>315813901
>I dunno, maybe someday
If you keep saying that, it'll be no day. You all have the time, if you really want it. You don't have to play every week, just fit it in and make it an event. My group has people living in opposite ends of the country, so we play at the most once a month - but we put aside an entire weekend for it, and make it a whole thing. PnP, playing fighting games, watching movies, etc. 8 hours of pnp, 8 hours of other stuff, 8 hours sleep, for 2,5 day. It's a blast.
The only problem you'll have is deciding who will GM, especially since there'll be a lot of responsibility (and work) resting on him, but there's premade adventures out there you could start out with.
>>315745952
Blood Strike lets you send a bit of your own blood to attack a target, and if you don't spam it you get it back if they're alive.
>>315814308
I mean, it's me and 3 others. So it'd be a two man game
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