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>>72003142
Everyone except Sophie is getting nominated edition
season 6 sucked
hack and hack ruined got
Cast her
>>72010355
Is anyone here actually a bastard? I don't mean broody like Jon, just born out of wedlockor at least known as such.S
>>72010441
My two nephews are.
>>72010441
>Is anyone here actually a bastard?
No, unless there are some half-siblings I don't know about, me and my two other brothers are highborn. I got dark brown hair, the others got black hair.
>>72010355
what did lyanna Whisper to ned?
has George actually confirmed R+L=J?
>>72010415
a cute girl
>>72010558
>has George actually confirmed R+L=J?
Lol who cares? He's a bastard regardless
>>72010415
Sansa
So is the song of ice and fire literally the act of Jon banging Dany?
>>72010629
>So is the song of ice and fire literally the act of Jon banging Dany?
Incest. Why are you guys so obsessed with him fucking his aunt?
>>72010641
Why aren't you?
>>72010629
I remember Preston made a video giving his theory on why it's called that.
It was p good.
>>72010691
Link?
>>72010415
Inevitable Jonsa offspring
>>72010629
No its about brans fight with the white walkers as lord of light and a stark
APOLOGIZE
>>72010785
For spilling my seed over this semen demon?
No fucking way
>>72010415
Sansa!
>>72010749
I don't remember
It had something to do with a Poem called fire and Ice dealing with some similar themes of GoT.
>>72010785
most beautiful girl in the seven continents
What are they talking about?
>>72010826
It was a Robert frost poem about apocalypse or some shit, its in this playlist but for the life of me i cant remember which one exactly
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCsx_OFEYH6vAkHO0gakDrZ8Kuteu-nUn
>>72010930
replace sandor with littlefinger
Re-cast her
>>72011049
salladhor saan's bathhouse whore #2
>>72010930
Replace sansa with chicken
>>72011164
>I'm going to dress up like a whore while representing with my famous actor dad!
What did they mean by this?
>>72010415
>>72011049
Dany. Only if they actually wrote the character properly.
She'd be amazing :3
>>72011164
you just KNOW
>Go to random website I frequent
>Suddenly read this
>"I don't know about you, but I'm going through some serious GoT withdrawals today. I think that looking back, season 6 may be my favorite, and it started and ended so very strong. The show has been hitting on every note for me, with nary a single character that's boring me or disappointing me."
Why are plebs so awful?
>>72011164
>someone actually married the slag on the right
madman
>>72011396
>rosposting
>>72011523
Poor Selina Gomez, she used to be so cute.
>>72011408
Oh no. Sean Bean is your father in law and is grateful you married his daughter whom he thought was going to wind up dead in a ditch at 30 from a heroin overdose and filled with the cum of over 12 men.
was it rape ?
Kit deserves the Emmy
>>72011922
>>72011922
For which scenes episodes? The one where he was heroic and brooding, or the other one where he was brooding and heroic?
>>72012031
Both
>>72012031
He deserves something for rising up to match the physicality of his role.
Hesno master, but as someone who has practiced HEMA for nearly twenty years now I can confidently say the dude has REALLY put the effort in when it comes to his swordsmanship.
His footwork, posture, stance, and general technique are all that of someone who is quite experienced. Both in the BotB and Hardhome he looked convincingly like a well-trained soldier in his fights, minus a few artistic moments the choreographers included for flourish.
In that regard, he should be commended.
>>72010441
I was as an accident. My parents were married though.
>>72012163
Anyone else in the show you'd say has done their homework in regards to fighting?
>>72012163
He certainly does deserve to be commended for his efforts, but the fencing was blocked and taught to Kit by someone else. It wasn't really his "process," it was essentially a dance routine. It doesn't really speak to his abilities as an actor, and that is what he was nominated for.
>>72012163
> has REALLY put the effort in when it comes to his swordsmanship.
True, but he isn't being nominated for "Outstanding Swordsman in a Drama Series." I guess one can argue that learning the choreography was a part of portraying the overall character, but if he was deficient (or at the very least underwhelming) in all the other areas of the performance, I don't think the swordplay should really boost him up all that much. The choreography was cool, but it's really icing on top of the acting cake.
>>72012394
Dayne's actor clearly knew how to wield a sword but had pretty poor fight choreography for his one scene that made him miss a lot of easy kills.
Syrio seemed competent, though I'm admittedly unfamiliar with hi
Jaime and Brienne have both clearly received training but aren't very good, same for the Hound.
Besides that most of the major members of the cast look like what they are, actors just following their choreographers and direction the best they can.
>>72012500
with his style*
Fencing and etc. in general is what I'm referring to, by the way.
So am I reading the first book /got/ and I am mainly wondering
Why is Ned such a fucking idiot? People are outright telling him that his honor will get him killed yet he is persisting with it
At every turn he is making stupid decisions and not just coming clean straight away
The show didnt even portray him as this incompetent sometimes.
>>72010574
Not if they were married.
>>72012647
>Why is Ned such a fucking idiot?
>I don't really want anyone to explain why he is that way, I just want to seem witty and contrarian
Nobody cares that you just picked up the books, newfag. Start posting when you finish them and you actually have something of value to say.
>>72012837
>you actually have something of value to say
There is a talking point at the end of my post retard, I am saying that the show didnt portray him as stupid as the books are doing.
>>72012910
No there isn't, "retard". Ned is exactly the same in the show and the books, "retard"
>liking Cersei
jesus christ, you retards would literally do anything just to be contrarian and edgy, wouldn't you?
Cersei is a shit character in the books, she's a shit character in the series as well. There is absolutely nothing likable about her - she's stupid and arrogant,
yet thinks she's as smart as Tywin.Everything Cersei did only weakened the Lannisters and the Kingdom.She says she only cares about her children yet she's too stupid to realize she's the one that killed them.
>>72012991
>someone actually made my rant into a pasta
Good lad
CERSEI>>>>>>>>>>>>KELLY C
>>72012977
>Sophie Turner (Yes, I mean it)
>Not Jon Rheon
>>72013085
>Jon Rheon
>Cersei - a crazy bitch that hates everyone, drinks wine and kills a bunch of people because she only cares about herself and her children ... for six seasons and possibly two more.
>>72013154
>someone saved my other rant and made it into a pasta
Good lad
Best couple coming through
>>72013196
>implying its not meera and bran
>>72013121
He supposed to play Jon Snow, but since GoT is very progressive show D&D add some diversity and hire paki/arab to play Jon.
>>72013406
>kitt harrington
>not white
u wot
Reminder Qyburn and Cersei are the only two people who can take on Night King. If Dany kills her, she is dooming the human race. She will have to choose between killing her, or helping her. Screencap this shit.
I don't watch the show but last night Sansa and Jon were in my dream. They were a couple, but secretly. I even think they might've had a baby or something. I walked over and Jon started freaking out and I was like 'relax, silly, I was there when she told you, remember?' And then I told them both that they were family (as in, my family) and kissed them each supportingly on the cheek. And then I gave Sansa the burger I had, which I had gotten for somebody else but couldn't find them (and I couldn't eat it because it had meat in it)
Thanks for reading my dream journal.
At least Cersei's character is written with strengths in subterfuge,backstabbing and scheming.
>rip the rightful queen of westeros
is Cersei 4chan,reddit or tumblr ?
>>72013196
>Cersei marrying the manlet
>>72013575
4chan
cersei hates women, has deep psychological and emotional issues, perverted, likes to watch things burn, not as smart as she thinks she is
>>72013589
I've never been a /got/ regular, even when I used to watch the show. I only started viewing the threads recently and even then infrequently. But you have a lot of consistent spammers so I guess Jon/Sansa got into my subconscious enough to actually dream about it.
>>72013609
Look at his face,my sides
>>72013640
>perverted
wrong
>>72013685
But this I the first time I've posted here in weeks... And this is already the most I've talked to someone in /got/
I guess /got/ really is that potent. Lord save me from my dreams tonight
>>72013640
she's also autistic
It should probably be said that the only reason why people would like Cersei as a character is bc shes fucked up and everybody knows she will have a bad ending and/or horrible death and are excited for the conclusion of her arc.
Azor Isaac
>>72013798
her face is literally a meme
>>72010930
this is the most tumblr thing ive ever laid eyes on
>>72012647
He's a fish out of water. For the longest time, people in the north have stuck very strictly to a code of honour. Despite seeing signs of dishonourable folk in King's Landing, he's not geared to assume the worst in people. Honour is fartoo deeply ingrained in his personality.
>>72013550
meera stark is still alive though
>>72014106
stop projecting
>reading A Dance with Dragons
>hearing Iwan Rheon's voice in my head while reading Ramsay's lines
You know, if he had the right look, he really would have been perfect. There's something about his voice that just fits Ramsay so well. Like he's really enjoying himself but in a weird offputting way.
>>72011839
I don't care.
>>72011839
The most blatant rape of all was it rapes desu.
>>72012647
Honor has less to do with it than the fact that his best friend Bobby B rewarded a turncloak for brutally murdering the previous king's children. The whole reason why Ned was up in the North for years after the Rebellion is he got PTSD'd hard by his sister dying right in front of him and his best friend showed a side Ned had never seen before.
When he's trying to talk the council out of murdering Dany (the show left Barry out of the conversation so Ned looked like an honorable retard) his argument was that it was incredibly unlikely that Dany could or would ever cross the narrow sea. A pretty good point, as she was so close to death/failure so many times. It also shows his concern not about the honor of it, but about Robert's character.
Ned was struggling with the fact that his friend had been satisfied with the corpses of children laid before him, and was terrified of the pattern (He let Cersei go not because of 'i also have children' but because he knew what Robert did to children who posed a threat to him, and he's literally damaged by that).
Honor is a part of it, but it's his insistence and later fear that Robert is someone to murder children (and his own baggage from the Targ kids' corpses and Lyanna giving him Jon) that gets him killed.
>>72014198
Iwan was great with Ramsay. He was just a tad bit too good looking and was a bit of a hobbit.
>>72012934
Not OP but you should kys asap.
>>72013986
JUST
>>72013196
Best couples hermaphrodite love child coming through.
>>72013447
>manlet
>shiteyes
>from London
>white
>>72014338
His honour and lack of experience in KL politics is also an issue, though.
Trusting Baelish so much, refusing Renly's offer to just seize shit right then and there due to , and choosing to offer Stannis the regeancy rather than taking it himself were all massive mistakes that cost him his life.
A lot of things went wrong because he was just too decent a person and trusted too much in the good nature of others.
>>72014495
But Jaime and Brienne will never see each other again
Someone post that gif of Cersei face,when the sept captures her
Cersei is likeable because she provides fun. That is it. I can't say I give two shits about the lives of the Sparrows or the King's Landing plebs. They are portrayed as a dirty, stupid bunch.
Plus, Dany is fucking OP right now, so Cersei is in a bit of an underdog position. It is natural to want the underdog to rise because it provides for the most interesting conflict.
Dany also hangs out with the Snakes, who are the most annoying characters in the show.
Moreover, no side really seems like it could be the best for a Unified Westeros. Dany is sterile. Jon's legitimacy will always be called into question, doesn't seem very interested in the Throne and so far hasn't been given somebody who could be his wife. And Cersei is probably too old to have more children. I'd kinda have to wish for Sansa and Littlefinger taking the Throne.
And I wish I could see more Qyburn antics. Necromancers are great.
>>72014541
>His honour and lack of experience in KL politics is also an issue, though.
Yep, but I feel the show goes too far in portraying Ned as a lovable dolt than as a PTSD victim who doesn't want to see more dead kids at Robert's feet.
>Trusting Baelish so much
In the show this is a terrible, moronic mistake, as the audience can clearly see that LF is a mustache-twriling villain.
In the book, the whole point of LF is that he's very helpful and generous to everyone at court. It's how he got his position, and how he plans to get more and more power. LF earned Ned's trust by helping him see Cat and assisting him throughout, and nothing besides the vague 'u cant trust anyone in kl' would be a legitimate or reasonable cause to be suspicious of LF.
>refusing Renly's offer to just seize shit right then and there
I would argue this makes sense from Ned's pov. Ned was already suspicious of Renly because he was trying to marry Robert to Margaery, and then he up and offers to help usurp Joffrey, despite not knowing about the incest. Renly looks far more suspicious and more of a threat than the chance that LF and the entire city guard will betray him.
> choosing to offer Stannis the regeancy rather than taking it himself
Minor, but I'm pretty sure Ned took the regency. That was how he had the authority to attempt to arrest the royal party until Stannis could arrive. He supported Stannis's claim to the throne, as both knew/suspected about the incest. This cost him LF's support and was definitely a bad mistake, but not one Ned could realistically see coming.
>>72014818
>Plus, Dany is fucking OP right now
Yeah,because muh dragons,seriously that bitch don´t deserved to be a queen of nothing
Just imagine the things that Nutella did with Cersei
>>72014818
>wanting a united westeros
>>72012647
He's a pretty reasonable guy, he just doesn't like to lie, hurt children or play nice with bad people
>>72014877
>Yep, but I feel the show goes too far in portraying Ned as a lovable dolt than as a PTSD victim who doesn't want to see more dead kids at Robert's feet.
A big part of this is the omission of flashbacks. Getting rid of the ToJ and Ned dwelling on his family makes him seem like the only thing troubling him is that Robert drinks too much and Littlefinger is kinda weird
>>72015557
Why doesn't Tormund upgrade himself from his shitty wildling rags? Jon should give him some proper armor
>>72010629
No, Jon himself is the song of Ice and Fire.
He is Ice (Stark) and Fire (Targaryen) and his side will be Fire against the Ice of the Walkers.
He's not gonna bang his aunt, there's nothing to gain from it, she's barren.
I hope this isn't a stupid question, but it's been bugging me for a while now and I can't seem to find a straight answer. How is it that Bran is walking around in his visions? And yes, I get that he isn't "really walking" because it's all in the trees, but how are they able to physically get him to stand up if he's paralyzed? I know a lot of the shots are from the waist up, so maybe he's sitting down, but I specifically remember a couple scenes where we see his whole body standing. Do they get a stunt double to walk around and then cgi Bran's face later? Sorry if this has been asked before.
>>72015694
weak bait
>>72015694
Is anyone here going to Comic Con? I would do anything if one of you faggots ask this at the GoT Q&A
>>72015694
>>72015768
somebody PLEASE do this
>>72015694
good question. plot hole?
Who's Jon gonna marry to make alliances with and who is Sansa gonna marry to make alliances with?
When it comes to females for Jon, there's gonna be Dany, Yara, those kinslayers down in Dorne, Olenna, Cersei, Sam's sister, random bannerman's daughter.
For Sansa, there's Tyrion, Euron, Robin, Littlefinger, Edmure's kid.
Personally think it'll be each other. Neither wants to leave Winterfell and both regret ever leaving it in the first place.
Why does everyone think the white walkers are evil?
GRRM has a history of not writing completely black and white good or evil characters. He also seems opposed to giant battles with monster for the fate of humanity. He has taken a few minor shots at Lord of the Rings and has said Ramsay is misunderstood and had a difficult childhood.
But I see a lot of people out there (especially show watchers obviously) thinking the end of the series is the nights king getting turned into a puddle by a dragon or a king with a shinning sword standing on a hill.
This is why I think at some point it will be revealed to some characters that the nights king and the walkers have a legitimate issue and then the book will actually end with a peace being brokered.
Perhaps Bran will be shown that in the past something happened that was unfair to the others, and since he is technically warden of the North to most people he could control the situation. I think that's why Melisandre sees Bran and BR as enemies of the lord of light.
>>72015218
Threw her into prison cell, didn't allow her to drink and sleep, hit her with a laddle, said "confess" two thousand times and "shame" six hundred times, helped her to stand up, prayed for her soul several times a day.
Did I miss something?
>>72015870
>Why does everyone think the white walkers are evil?
Because they are apparently a foreign power of wanton murderers who bring devastation and hordes of undead.
>>72015870
I can't remember where I read it, but apperantly the WW are supposed to be seen as a force of nature gone arwy (such as, lets say, a harsh winter storm) instead of evil beings. Just because a natural disaster causes damages and deaths it doesn't mean it's evil. Like you said...
>>72012647
His worst decision was helping Stannis instead of Renly desu
>>72015924
deserves all the zombie rape she has coming desu senpai
>>72011396
>you know realize that Ros was roleplaying Sansa in this scene
>Pycelle was pretending that he was banging that tight young Stark puss
This show used to be so subtle and dark, now it's MUH DAME OF THRONES
>>72015597
Because Tormund only takes off his clothes if he needs to take a bath, and he already bathed couple of years ago, so Jon has to wait another year or two
So seriously, why didn't she get the nom? She was objectively better this season than:
>Dinkydoo
>"Brows" Clarke
>Kit Snow
it would have been awesome if both her and Maisie got the nom together. They are bess frens
>>72010415
Val.
>>72012163
If I wanted to learn to wield a sword like Jon, what kind of training should I look for? Fencing?
>>72015860
>Jon in the books
- Nobody, if for whatever reason he ends up as reagent for Rickon/Bran instead of King or dies in the war
- Danny, if (when, really) she succeeds in conquering the South and allies with him vs White Walkers
- Val, possibly post-war with the White Walkers, as a way to establish peace and expand the North beyond the wall
- Arya, to legitimise his claim and if GRRM wants to fuck with fans
- Maergery, if she survives the shit to come in KL, since she pretty much exists just for marriage alliances by now and the Tyrells will likely end up serving Danny
>Sansa in the books
- Harry Hardyng is pretty much the most likely option, she's obviously being setup to somehow outwit and defeat Baelish and it'd make her Lady of the Vale when Sweetrobbin inevitably dies
- Tyrion, if he ends up Lord of the Westerlands while serving Danny, bonus chance if Jon marries a Tyrell since it'd further cement alliance
>Show Jon
- Danny for the same reasons as above
- Sansa to legitimise his claim
>Show Sansa
- Baelish, so D&D can do another "woman kills her male relative to steal his position" storyline
- Jon, see above
- Tyrion, see above
>>72016178
Start with an ancient Japanese technique called "seppuku"
>>72016235
It's spelled 'sudoku', dumbass
Can we talk about wasted potential : the character ?
Just train him with a sword and you'd have a soldier on par with the Mountain, instead all he does is carry a cripple around and hold a door.
>>72016178
Any accredited Historical European Martial Arts school should do, from what I can tell he was trained with techniques right out of a medieval arms manual.
Fencing is very different all together to how he fights.
why was Tormund fine with being in the same room with Mellisandre when she was the one who burned Mance Raider and gave a speech to shit on his entire existence and everything he strived for ?
>>72016204
>arya
>getting married
>>72015870
>Melisandre sees Bran and BR as enemies of the lord of light.
when
>>72016071
so cute in your attempts to remind the world how tough and cruel you are
>>72010930
The Bear and the Maiden Fair.
>>72016290
This, desu baka senpai. I know he's lowborn and what not, but how can you pass up potential like that? You'd have Brock Lesnar with a greatsword on your side.
>>72016178
Stage fighting. To learn much better; Historical European Martial Arts. Check /asp/.
>>72016290
forgot pic
>>72016171
get the fuck over it
>>72016171
Cause she didn't campaign hard enough to get lots of publicity and goodwill.
Maisie's also besties with Kit, so two besties are still nominated
>>72016301
Cool, thanks anon. Sounds like a good work-out too.
Who wants a Lord's kiss from Gregor Clegane?
>>72016290
He was a good horse
>>72016488
why didnt they grab bran's pony and saddle when they left winterfell?
Who /Varys/ here?
>>72016309
but she resurrected Jun Snuh, she's good now :)
>>72016526
In the book, all the horses are dead.
>>72016576
but what about the saddle? why not try to find it so they could use it on a different horse? its one of a kind & irreplaceable so you'd think they'd at least look for it
>>72016204
>Sansa in the books
>marries Hardying
>thinks Robin will die
>Robin pulls a Teddy Roosevelt
>gets healthy, gets strong, gets into hunting, no more fits, no more shaking or need for sweetsleep
>marries Miranda Royce, has 6 trueborn sons who survive infancy
>Harry turns into Robert 2.0, constantly cheats on Sansa and has 20 Vale bastards
The best laid plans of mice and men
How can Mery Sue be nominated for the Emmy? what is wrong with this fuckin world,at least i hope this time Lena wins
>>72010441
Yep. Full on, never knew my real father, raised by another man since birth bastard here.
>>72016607
A horse wouldn't do well on the route they took
>>72016676
would probably do better than hodor
>>72016488
this gif is the first time i can see how young ihw and older ihw are the same person
>>72016676
Load Sta'k
>Ser Aurthur Dayne, also known as the Sword of the Morning, as you may well know, King Aerys the second of the Targaryen line is dead, and so are all his sons and heirs. It seems you are without work old chum.
Noweit Beggins
>No my friend. Sadly this is where it must end, for i must find my sister and spirit her back to Winterfell so that she may live a long and happy life with the new King, Robert Baratheon.
>>72015870
>GRRM has a history of not writing completely black and white good or evil characters
You fell for the """""""grey""""" characters meme. Cersei, Ramsay, Joffrey and Euron are all edgy evil cunts
>>72016878
also jon is pretty gary stu good guy
>>72016940
I will forgive Jon simply because he did abandon the nights watch even through he knew what was coming and excuted Ollie. So he has sum grey.
>>72016940
Wait how did the rest of the alive starks become morally grey
Does Ygritte's death even count since it wasn't Jon who killed her?
Why can't Jon just have the comfy life he wants?
Lord of Winterfell, a nice wife, some kids, and possibly Ice.
Even in the show he always wanted to be a Stark, then just wanted to get South and get warm, but at almost every turn he has to do shit he doesn't really want to.
>>72017002
Also he banged a wilding against his vows.
I agree about Joff and Ramsay. I wouldn't say Euron or Cersei are completely textbook evil though.. maybe Cersei. Not Euron though, he's just power hungry.
>>72017117
Should have thought of that before pledging his life to the Watch
>>72010441
I am.
>>72017086
>sansa let ramsay get eaten alive by dogs instead of straight beheading him
>Arya is going around murdering people and skinning their face off.
>Bran mindrapes "Hodor" disably him for life and uses him as a meat shield to get away.
Rickon was the only good one in the show atleast
>>72016560
Off-season is best time for dickbelts.
>>72017086
arya eh idk, sansa is kind of a stupid twit whos a bitch to her siblings, bran wargs hodor even though he doesnt understand what he's really doing, rickon is irrelevant
>>72017149
>where are my niece and newphew? Lets go murder them :))))))
>cuts the tongue off of his whole crew
>molest littlebrother
>rapes and privileges
nigga is actually worse than joffrey.
>>72016316
In the books Mel sees Bran and BR in the fire and wonders if they're enemies, it's hardly her outright stating that she thinks they're on the Others' side.
>>72017149
>he did abandon the nights watch even through he knew what was coming and excuted Ollie.
>Also he banged a wilding against his vows.
that is not morally grey when the audience/reader is supposed to root for him
>>72017159
Well he would've never been a Lord, had a good wife and kids before pledging anyway.
Dude had nowhere else to go, it's suicide to stay at Winterfell with Cat in charge and no Ned to control her.
And now that he's free and could go pursue those things, he's still fucked and can't
WHY DIDNT MELISANDRE BRING bACK RICKON
WHY DID NO ONE ASK HER TO BRING BACK RICKON KEK
>>72017271
lol oh is that it? yeah melisandres interpretations of her visions have never been wrong before
>>72017288
Just because your a bastard doesnt mean you cant make something of yourself. There has been countless times bastards went on to become famous knights and lords of their very own houses. He had plenty of opportunities.
>>72017339
>"lulz the lord of light did it not me"
>has 100% success rate so far
>"well why even bother trying again"
>>72017288
>>72017365
In ASOS he even thinks about how Ned had a plan to resettle the Gift with new lords and he might have been one of them.
>>72016576
he doesn't seem to have trouble on horseback without it anymore.
>>72017365
no poor jon had the most terrible awful life and no choice but to join the watch how dare you imply otherwise
>>72017365
A Northern knight is a rare thing, especially for someone who still worships the seven.
And who'd give him lands anyway? Cat sure as fuck isn't gonna let Ned do it.
He'd have to head South himself and try and make his own way.
>>72017433
*worships the old gods
>>72017433
A Northman bastard of Ned upstart lord who worships the old gods would be the perfect PR to get more people to settle the gift.
And who'd give him lands anyway? Cat sure as fuck isn't gonna let Ned do it.
Cat doesn't want him to inherit Winterfell because it would hurt her family. Giving Jon a minor lordship in the gift would give her no reason to argue.
>>72017408
to be fair he wasnt really riding it properly more like just balancing on it while meera pulled
on that note it annoys me that all season he seemed like he couldnt sit up straight anymore even though he always could before
>>72017411
>terrible life
>experienced feasts while people in westeros are starving
So, when GRRM writes about chaos and discord, he uses several themes
>Cannibalism
>Extremely violent gangs
>Mass rape (and brutal, disgusting rape too)
>Religious extremism and religious cults
We see a lot of this in Arya, Jaime and Brienne chapters.
How much more of this will we be seeing in the later novels?
It's worth noting that most of the stories during the War of the Five Kings weren't about the battles in the war themselves, but the carnage and destruction that the battles caused, and the effect the war had on the countryside and the smallfolk.
catlyn tully is a bitch
>>72017491
>Cat doesn't want him to inherit Winterfell because it would hurt her family. Giving Jon a minor lordship in the gift would give her no reason to argue.
Giving Jon lordship means he's more official, has power and would now be even more of a danger and threat to Cat's kids.
>>72017493
>He's so gay he can't even sit up straight
>>72017149
>banged a wildling against his vows
I never got this. I know they say that in both the books and show, but it's not against his vows to bang wildlings, or anyone else. I'm pretty sure the words are "take no wife, father no children"
He didn't.
>>72017567
i walked into that one
Please tell me how people think this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Uq8O5ZhUA
Is better acting than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA3T1s1BI8w
>>72017567
i thought liking dick made you gay.
>>72017556
Reminder that she's the one who pushed Ned to go to King's Landing cause Sansa marrying Joffrey would elevate them.
>>72017493
she looks short as fuck here
how much taller than her is he? have they ever taken a picture standing next to each other
>>72017668
Catelyn literally begged Ned to stay..
so many pointless meme dwarf and khaloreesi scenes and not a single confrontation between Kevan and Lancel
>>72017562
Giving Jon a lordship away from Winterfell would show that he is not Ned's intended heir and secure Robb's position as the heir of Winterfell. It would in no way legitimize or elevate him to be a threat, instead quelling any potential threat by sending him away and starting his own cadet branch/starting a new family after choosing his own last name.
>>72017533
Dany's bringing religious cultists AND Dothraki with her
>>72017733
Not in the books she didn't
>>72017811
/tv/
>>72017659
It does in roughly 50% of cases, yes. His inability to sit up straight is a symptom of his gayness, not the cause of it.
>Jaime kissed her cheek. “He left a son.”
>“Aye, he did. That is what I fear the most, in truth.”
>That was a queer remark. “Why should you fear?”
>“Jaime,” she said, tugging on his ear, “sweetling, I have known you since you were a babe at Joanna’s breast. You smile like Gerion and fight like Tyg, and there’s some of Kevan in you, else you would not wear that cloak… but Tyrion is Tywin’s son, not you.”
>>72017770
>own cadet branch/starting a new family after choosing his own last name.
Almost like the Greystarks, gee, wonder what happened with them? Oh yeah, they rose up against the Starks of Winterfell.
Giving him Lordship means he'll have men, actual power he can wield, he can now shmooze with the other Lords, gain more support and more men and either he or his descendants can rise up.
>>72017811
get the fuck out of here liar
how do the common folk regard cersei?
>>72017825
/got/
>>72016352
Enjoy sucking Dink's tiny white midget cock
>>72017942
Exactly, Game of Thrones, not ASoIaF
>>72017668
ned wanted to bring the kids, plus he wanted to have bran fostered there to be friends with joffrey
whos the bitch here
>>72017949
enjoy crying into your pillow some more over a shit actress
>>72017922
Lol wot?
>Catelyn pushes Ned to accept the offer along with a betrothal that would make Sansa queen one day. Despite misgivings about going to King's Landing, Ned accepts.
From the actual book
>"You knew the man," she said. "The king is a stranger to you." Catelyn remembered the direwolf dead in the snow, the broken antler lodged deep in her throat. She had to make him see. "Pride is everything to a king, my lord. Robert came all this way to see you, to bring you these great honors, you cannot throw them back in his face."
>"Honors?" Ned laughed bitterly.
>"In his eyes, yes," she said.
>"And in yours?"
>"And in mine," she blazed, angry now. Why couldn't he see? "He offers his own son in marriage to our daughter, what else would you call that? Sansa might someday be queen. Her sons could rule from the Wall to the mountains of Dorne. What is so wrong with that?"
>"Gods, Catelyn, Sansa is only eleven," Ned said. "And Joffrey . . . Joffrey is . . . "
>She finished for him. " . . . crown prince, and heir to the Iron Throne. And I was only twelve when my father promised me to your brother Brandon."
>>72017871
you might be on to something here m8
look at how straight he sat up before naked hodor happened
>>72017960
Oh yes, let's eliminate all book content from these discussions and see how much sense shit makes
>>72018059
It's already too late.
>>72018059
I never said that.
>>72017960
/got/ encompasses the books AND the show
>>72017640
Because a midget screaming and grimacing is more eye catching than an average guy displaying grief.
>>72017904
Cadet branches are common all across Westeros, with rebellions occurring very infrequently. The fate of House Greystark would show why cadet branches remain cadet branches, and would most definitely give any lord stupid enough to think about supporting Jon as the heir to House Stark pause.
Who gets the Dreadfort / Karhold / Last Hearth?
Was this some kind of sick joke?
>>72017884
One of the sweetest characters in the books.
>>72018270
Will not be addressed/wildlings.
>>72018186
That's not how Cat's gonna see it.
If she fears a bastard with no power who's stuck at Winterfell, she's not gonna like a bastard Lord who would have power
>>72018044
That picture makes me sad. Praying there with his broken spine. Why do people hurt Bran? Stop it.
>>72018287
>Two of her kids are dead and she's in the precarious position of being married to the Lord of Riverrun
>>72018279
It's a bad wig made to look like he hadn't bathed in a month. He looks fine IRL. Everyone knows this.
>Back then I only thought about what I wanted, never about what I had. I was a stupid girl.
>Littlefinger then gets her to question Jon by pointing out shit Littlefinger wants, that she wanted when she was stupid girl and that she doesn't have now
>Sansa will actually turn on Jon cause of it.
B R A V O D&D
>>72018291
>she fears a bastard with no power who's stuck at Winterfell
I'm saying that Jon being raised beside Robb at Winterfell is exactly why she fears and hates him. To anyone watching, Jon is being groomed exactly like Robb, despite being a bastard. So Ned must prefer or is at least showing an incredible amount of care to Jon, compared to Robb. Which might raise some questions about why Jon is being given so much, when the supposed heir, Robb, is right there.
Getting him his own land in the gift would show that he is not in the running to inherit. Cat would be very happy to see him go, and would be happy to finally have Ned publicly show that Robb is Winterfell's heir, not Jon.
>>72018279
literally THE worst wig in game of thrones history, it will be never be topped. what the fuck were they thinking
Maise doesn't deserve shit. Her arc this season was the worst of all. Dinklebot also did virtually nothing this season.
>being reddit is acting
>Emilia Clarke can act
>>72018446
Either way, Robb would the rightful heir, so it wouldn't matter if they were getting raised together. Jon wasn't even put in a place of prominence when it came to anything official like feasts.
How the fuck is giving him Lordship, lands and men possibly show that he's not being entrusted and given a lot of shit and support?
He'd be a Lord sooner than Robb and would show leadership skills and how well he can rules for years before Robb could on his own officially. It's like Aegon IV giving Daemon Blackfyre and letting him make his own House.
>>72018325
and then on top of it all there are no gods in the trees and hes praying to himself. everything is fucked up
>>72018719
>Either way, Robb would the rightful heir, so it wouldn't matter if they were getting raised together. Jon wasn't even put in a place of prominence when it came to anything official like feasts.
And that is what Cat is not sure of. Men, as a rule, do not keep their bastards close. It's a grave insult to their current wife, and a possible power struggle just waiting to happen. Ned isn't stupid, so he understands the consequences and the context of bringing home a bastard and demanding it be raised in his castle next to his trueborn son. But he does it anyway.
No one knows that Jon is Lyanna's son. No one knows that Ned is desperately holding on to the last promise he made his sister. All there is to see is Ned favoring his bastard son who resembles him far more than Robb does, and to Cat (who in the book at least is relatively politically savvy), that is both a grave insult and a possible threat. Why else would Ned insist on keeping Jon so close, when he knows it only weakens Cat and Robb's positions?
>How the fuck is giving him Lordship, lands and men possibly show that he's not being entrusted and given a lot of shit and support?
It shows that he is not the heir to Winterfell, and is not being planned to usurp Robb's position. It shows that he is just a bastard son Ned loves enough to give a lordship in his gift restoration project.
>He'd be a Lord sooner than Robb and would show leadership skills and how well he can rules for years before Robb could on his own officially.
Robb would rule whenever Ned was away, and would also publicly be supported by Ned as heir.
> It's like Aegon IV giving Daemon Blackfyre and letting him make his own House.
Daemon Blackfyre was not a threat until he was legitimized on Aegon IV's deathbed. House Blackfyre rebelled because they had a legitimate (due to Aegon IV purposefully and spitefully legitimizing all of his bastards) claim, unlike Jon, the unlegitimized second son who would start a cadet branch.
>>72018653
>Dinklebot also did virtually nothing this season.
he was a dwarf all season.
which is why he was in the emmys for the previous seasons, so I don't see why it'd change.
>>72014999
Targaryens didn't deserve to be rulers in the first place. They made themselves rulers because dragons.
>>72010441
Yep but I was legitimized when I was 2 when my parents decided to marry
Why wasn't she nomnom'd :^/
>tfw this is what tears Sophie and Maisie apart
The dream is dead bros
>>72019199
>implying it makes a difference
bastard
>>72019111
>All there is to see is Ned favoring his bastard son who resembles him far more than Robb does, and to Cat (who in the book at least is relatively politically savvy), that is both a grave insult and a possible threat. Why else would Ned insist on keeping Jon so close, when he knows it only weakens Cat and Robb's positions?
But you yourself admit Daemon didn't become a threat until he was legitimized, so Cat is already paranoid for no reason for thinking Jon is gonna try and usurp her kid's shit.
Giving Jon a lordship and power shows a shitload of trust and faith in Jon that Ned's not giving to someone like Bran or Rickon who as second and third born sons usually get nothing and in this case would also get nothing. It'd make Jon more of a threat in Cat's eyes cause he's getting again more recognition than bastards usually get.
>and is not being planned to usurp Robb's position.
Cat's fear isn't that Ned will make him heir, it's that Jon will himself try and usurp shit, or that his own kids will. Jon can more easily usurp when he has a Castle and men of his own and can prove himself by ruling his lands well.
>Robb would rule whenever Ned was away, and would also publicly be supported by Ned as heir.
But he'd still only be acting Lord of Winterfell, not Lord in his own right, unlike Jon.
>>72019246
She is so adorable and lovely and is fun to be around. The only people that hate her are people who wish they had her charisma.
>>72019246
don't worry sophie is legally retarded.
she won't even realize she's the only actress in the main cast who wasn't nominated.
>>72010530
>me and my two other brothers are highborn.
Unless your family's rich, you're not highborn, you're just trueborn
>>72019265
It legitimized me so I'm their true heir
>>72019298
>legally retarded
Why? Because she'll never want your small white dick?
![Game-of-Thrones-Season-5-Art-8-07282015[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ODtTV7W.jpg "Game-of-Thrones-Season-5-Art-8-07282015[1]")
Where do they even find that many horses ?
>>72019510
CG/editing, my friend
>>72019169
So they did deserve to be rulers.
GoT makes about as much sense as Lost.
Why don't people care anymore?
>>72019307
My family came to America on the mayflower, friend. Andrew Carnegie and my great grandfather were good friends.
>>72019510
We slaughter that many cows every day
>>72019779
No they didn't and no they weren't. My Great Grandfather was Andrew Carnegie, and he never said anything about your faggy grandfather.
>>72017763
Lancel/Jaime would have been GOAT too.
What's the status on that blood magic spell that one anon was going to cast to get rid of the Branbros? Did it work?
>>72019830
He didn't say anything because by 'good friend' I meant my grandfather was the top.
>>72019873
I dont think he even tried
>>72019510
This is what I don't get. I thought they did this because they had found Daenerys Targaryen, khaleesi to Khal Drogo, the famous dragon queen, the unburnt. But next season it turns out they didn't know who she was. So do they do this big circle for every random 5ft unarmed woman they come across?
>>72019873
no im still here
>"There's a lot of uncharted territory to explore with Sansa and Littlefinger."
>"So no romantic feelings between them?"
>"No, I'm not saying that."
What's Sophie's problem and when will she start shipping Jonsa?
>>72019271
>But you yourself admit Daemon didn't become a threat until he was legitimized
That's not true, though. Daemon's closeness to Aegon IV allowed him to build the relationships and public image that gained him so much support for his claim. A big argument for his followers was that Aegon IV clearly favored him based on how he was treated.
>>72019271
But the North is loyal and the North Remembers. Jon would be busy leading House Snow in the Gift, fighting wildlings with the Umbers, backing up the Watch and shit like that, he wouldn't have time for lofty political plots. Jon isn't a southron fucking shit with ambitions and deceit in his heart. No matter what Cat thinks, Jon wouldn't have tried to usurp Robb's position.
>>72020173
They probably just wanted a good look at this white skinned, silver haired, milk golem.
>>72020173
......i never thought of this but holy shit. that scene just went from ok to hilariously stupid in 2 seconds
>>72020271
Another thing I don't get. S1 the Dothraki didn't give a shit about Daenerys' looks, they had pale slaves same as anybody else, that kind of separation wasn't really what defined Essosi culture. S6, D&D decide to make the browns racist against the whites.
>>72020253
When she realizes pandering and shipping something more controversial than a partnership between Littlefinger and Sansa will get her more attention
>>72020262
>That's not true, though.
U wot? Your own words m8
>Daemon Blackfyre was not a threat until he was legitimized on Aegon IV's deathbed
>>72020266
That'd be the reality, Cat doesn't deal in reality, she's paranoid
>>72020453
I'm not that guy
>>72010785
Arya a cute!
>>72020357
In the books atleast, khal drogo is pretty fucking progressive compared to other horsefuckers; maybe most dothraki aren't used to seeing whites but drogos khalasar was.
>>72020357
They didn't give a shit about Daenerys' looks because she's the queen.
>>72020453
>Cat doesn't deal in reality, she's paranoid
Idk, speaking hypothetically of course, Ned refuses Robert's offer and stays in the North, theres nothing Cat could really do. She's gonna shut down Ned's plan to restabilize and resettle the gift?
>>72010415
Fat Walda
>>72020671
She'd let him restabilize and resettle it, but she'd bitch and shit down his neck if he so much as brings up making Jon a Lord
What's happening in this picture?
>>72020703
And Ned would do it anyway, because "Promise me, Ned."
>>72020796
Privilege.
>>72020413
>still pretending jonsa isn't normie
jonsa is WAY less controversial than littlefinger and sansa would be, faggot.
>>72020796
>Mother! I demand these little monkeys to accompany us back to court. They.... Amuse me
>>72020796
>ayy it dat boi
>o shit waddup
>>72010379
thank you, uncle benjen
>>72020879
Jonsafags just like to pretend their ship is edgy when everyone knows it's the most boring, vanilla pairing there is.
>>72020879
The cast is denying it, look at what CIA and Sophie said, and actually reputable sites that talk about it say it's disgusting.
Her outright supporting it would be controversial as fuck and get her attention
>>72010415
brothel whore #5
>>72020858
That promise didn't include making Jon a Lord and feeding more into Cat's paranoia.
Cat sure as fuck isn't gonna say "My Lord" to Jon if he'd ever visit
>>72020884
Jonsa is too popular for it to be controversial. There's no fucking way the normie audience wouldn't be more pissed off about Sansa willingly being in a sexual relationship with "Pedofinger"
>>72021005
Tumblr also supports Destiel, doesn't mean a cast member and especially the actor who plays a character in the ship supporting it wouldn't be talked about and be controversial
What did Stannis see?
>>72021127
For the Internet, sure. Can't wait to see the outrage from moral Christians though.
>>72021163
Much and more
>>72021163
Melly looks kind of like Brianna Wu here
>>72021190
>bran went back in time and showed him this vision in order to make it true
Noice
>>72021170
refer to >>72021149
.
Just look up destiel on google and see how many hits, look it up on ao3 and see how many stories.
If the actor who played Dean or Castiel outright supported it, that shit would be huge and you'd have articles talking about the actor supporting it and some against it, some not, etc.
Same thing with Sophie supporting jonsa
>>72021149
controversial generally implies something negative. the definition is:
>"giving rise or likely to give rise to public disagreement."
the reaction to misha or jensen openly supporting destiel would be overwhelmingly positive. there are haters of every single pairing out there, that doesn't make them all controversial.
it implies something that could cause widespread anger and debate.
sorry but you must be autistic if you think the general audience would be angrier about jonsa than littlefinger x sansa.
Serious question, how come Maester Luwin didn't tie Bran to a rope and punch his spine really hard until he could walk again?
>>72021367
>the reaction to misha or jensen openly supporting destiel would be overwhelmingly positive
No it wouldn't. Only loud people on tumblr love the Destiel pairing, most regular fans hate that shit.
Same with jonsa, loud people on tumblr may like it, doesn't mean the regular audience does. a huffington post article about it doesn't mean shit for the audience at large. Especially since most people are weirded by incest and cousin shit is illegal in most us states, it'd be controversial as fuck to actually support it.
Tbh i wouldnt mind jonsa. It doesnt even have to be endgame and probably will not be if it happens.
>>72021450
Because that only works in your capeshit memeflicks
>>72021450
His legs are mangled, mang
>>72021275
i know destiel, i know the spn fandom very well, and comparing it to jonsa is retarded. and i also know that sophie openly supporting LF x sansa would be even more controversial. she hasn't yet. she's always quick to say "i love them together.. but not in a romantic sense!" because she knows people would have nervous breakdowns.
if she really wants to troll people, she should say she hopes sansa marries LF.
>>72021521
>she should say she hopes sansa marries LF.
She's flipped between them being romantically together and then just being partners with no romance plenty of times.
>>72021313
>When I'm scared I shit
>I take shits before battle
>We might as well be taking shits back here
what a beautiful journey
>mfw Sophie didn't get nominated
Serious question, how come Bran didn't stare at his big toe and give it passive aggressive commands until he stopped being paralyzed?
Don't post in new thread. Keep posting here.
Who gives a fuck what Sophie thinks? she's a dumb teenager, a bad actress, probably didn't read the books or remember earlier seasons. Her opinion is irrelevant. Please stop discussing this useless """"""character"""""".
>>72021599
but y
>>72021546
when has she ever said she wants them together romantically? source?
>>72021585
>atrophied muscles is the same as spinal injury and resulting paralysis
(you)
>>72021574
Why was S5 Sophie so rough looking? Was she partying hard all night and getting buttfucked by like 20 Muslim men during that season? SHe looks way better now.
>>72021616
she's read all sansa chapters up to AFFC if i'm remembering right.
>>72021616
Sophie pls go, we are not going to indulge your weird masochistic tendencies
>>72021626
She's said Sansa would swipe right on Littlefinger, that Sansa wants to be by Littlefinger's side on the throne, that Sansa would choose Littlefinger as her king, etc.
Don't have the sources but it's been talked about here before.
>>72021616
Why are fantasy artists all so fucking dumb?
>"lets give all the women HUGE UNCHARACTERISTIC TITS AND LOW CUT OUTFITS AND BUSTED WHORE FACES"
>>72021813
That's not all fantasy artists, just the anime fags.
