i dont get it
emily blunt sweety face
>>64173686
It's fairly simple.
>>64173760
we kill the batman
>>64173686
should have been a mini-series
>>64173686
sicario
ex memeina
worst two movies of the year circle jerked by imdb-core manchildren
A lawyer turned into a super-hitman that took down an entire cartel with the help of brolin and some other guys
Blunt was a pussy "hard woman" like Rachel Mc Adams in TD that did nothing at all
To be honest, the black was the only believable character
>>64173824
Fucking embarrassing post
I bet you thought Blackhat was good
>>64174052
I do. Blackhat was entirely underrated and the dumbfuck imdb babbys wouldn't know a good movie if they saw one
I thought the Soundtrack and the editing was good.
The plot should have been a bit more simple and no Wickesque Super Assassins also make FBI woman more sexy. But Scene where she gets choked was hot as fuck.
I'd say it was 6.5/10
>>64174103
I like IMDB and always use it to pick what movie I watch.
I looooooooooove IMDB, it's so great, it really makes choosing movies easy and fun.
Best experience ever is seeing a movie on IMDB with a good rating and then watching it and having it be every bit as good as promised.
Hoo-iee, oh boy, IMDB sure is one great site full of features that make choosing what movie to watch a fun internet adventure.
>>64173686
Pretty fucking great
>Brolin being an utter cunt toward blunt
Loss of innocence
>>64174809
Yeah, he saved her life, what a cunt.
Idealism vs Realism in the US drug epidemic.
>>64173686
it was garbage
>>64174000
Should have made Del Toro ex-Mehican DEA
better than Prisoners
>>64173686
>>64174103
Blackhat was shit friendo.
>>64176095
what movies this year did you consider good, out of curiosity? not putting you down because you have a different view to me, that never gets the board anywhere, I am just curious what movies you would consider good over Sicario, it wasn't MOTY for me but it was damn good 8.2/10
>>64176569
i think it was MOTY for me
>>64176316
>You'd be comitting suicide
>>64176316
what department did del toro work for?
>>64176973the columbian department
>>64176973
TheMedellín Cartel
>>64177091
does that even still exist?
>>64173686
God tier movie, Blade Runner 2 is going to be awesome.
>>64176316
>silencer
>on a revolver other than a nagant
/k/ would be pissed
>>64174000
Those special forces seemed pretty legitimate but then I don't actually know what a guy in the special forces is really like.
>>64177764
not officially, no. it was huge though, plenty of players in that group are still very much alive no doubt.
>>64174000
>other guys
you mean Delta Force? Not sure in what context Delta would ever simply be referred to as "other guys."
>>64177844
Don't worry it's Nagant M1895
>>64177827
LITERALLY THIS
AFTER BASED SICARIO ITS NOW SAFE TO BE OFFICIALLY HYPE FOR BR2
>>64173686
All you had to do was google what Medellín meant and it was pretty self explanatory.
QUIERES MORIR?
Is it just me, or does Emily Blunt only have that one expression.
>>64179495
paiiiisano!
>>64179495
se quiere morir?*
holy shit senpai that scene was intense, those were somescary looking niggas to be
honest farn
>>64179756
Turns out the nerd operator was scarier
>>64174103
i fucking fell asleep at the theaters watching blackshit, it fucking sucked, great to cure insomnia though
>>64179802
literally who?
>>64179846
the guy with the glasses and the mustache
>>64179802
Operaters in general are scarrier than cholos
>>64179846
HE HEADFAKES EM HARD
LOOKS AWAY TO BAIT THEM SO THEY ENGAGE HIM, SO HE CAN THEN PUT EM DOWN IN 'SELF DEFENSE'
KEK ROE
>You're not a wolf. This is the land of the wolves now.
>>64179756
legit the only time that I've felt actually nervous because of a movie. desu
>>64179964
I was surprised they didn't use his character more.
>>64179756
the moment i saw those guys i would have light them up to be honest senpai movie is unrealistic baka
>"Go ahead and finish your meal"
>doesn't let him finish his meal
Bigger plot hole than anything in the Star Wars prequels.
>>64180177
that's why you're not an operator
>>64179846
>>64180243
he totally baited the shit out of them
>>64179846
this guy
>>64180243
>>64180298
Was he inspired by this guy?
>>64180243
where 2 cop those glasses desu
won't even make the paper in el paso
>>64180389
Mike Vining is the operator.
>>64180237
can you imagine how awkward it would be if he literally forced him at gunpoint to finish his meal with his dead family lying there?
>>64180466
I left my wallet in el segundo.
>that guy from the americans plays a corrupt mexican policeman
>>64180177
They had to follow rules of engagement since it was technically US soil, so they cant fire unless theres a clear threat, and guys sitting in a car isnt a clear threat
thats why the head fake was top tier operator tactics
>>64173686
You have to be a wolf to kill a wolf.
>>64180483
And then made him eat dessert and drink coffee after the meal?
>>64180525
"Now drink your coffee"
>>64180548
"Now clean the table"
>>64180515
he dindu nuffin he a good cop
>that fucking tension after he walks out of the car and you are contemplating is he gonna be killed or what
HNNGGG fuck literally 20 full minutes of the movies running time are solid tension and suspense
>>64180237
He kept talking shit.
>>64180548
"Now compliment the chef."
>>64180591
when keeping it smug goes wrong
>>64180588
>that whole part driving through juarez
damn son
>>64180626
"He could've just finished hi meal but he decided to keep it smug"
>>64179756
But Burn Notice looked away momentarily. Surely that would have been enough time for some cholo to awkwardly raise his weapon from his hip, steady it, aim, then squeeze the trigger. There's no way a trained operative like Burn Notice, who already had his weapon shouldered and pointed in their direction, could fire a shot in that time period.
Seriously, that's one big thing that bugs me in action movies. I can take some pretty unrealistic shit, but when Character A is aiming a gun at Character B with his finger on the trigger and Character B randomly brandishes a gun from nowhere and shoots Character A dead, it's just retarded. I like when stuff like response time, reflexes, and the amount of time it takes to actually aim a gun are treated realistically.
>>64174000
Wasn't the black guy gay? How's that believable?
>>64180588
SO BASED BENICIO KILLED HIM CUS HE DOESNT LEAVE WITNESSES WHO MIGHT TALK
THAT MEANS HE REALLY SHOULD HAVE 'SUICIDED' EMILY SINCE SHE THREATENED TO TALK
BUT SHE REMINDS HIM OF HIS DEAD DAUGHTER SO HE ONLY WARNS HER TO GET OUT OF TOWN OR ELSE
HIS ONE MARK FROM BEING A 100% COLD BLOODED MOTHERFUCKER
>>64180693
>halfway through dinner at gunpoint and he gives you this look
>>64177851
They're psychopaths
>>64180850
If he killed her he wouldn't have gotten the signature.
After getting the signature, even if she talked it wouldn't mean anything since she signed the bit of paper that said everything was okay.
>>64174000
>A lawyer turned into a super-hitman
is it that unbelievable that a guy bent on revenge with connections to the cartel turned operator as fuck? Its not like its a "talent" you are born with, theres literally hundreds of thousands of special/tactical force policeman in the world, theres an entire cartel thats entirely made up of former mexican federal officers and special forces almost anyone can be trained to do it.
>>64180850
he didn't kill the maid, did he?
>>64180850
killing a somewhat high ranking FBI agent is an uncessary risk and besides he could smell the weakness in her the moment they first met, he knew she would sign it.
>>64180914
no. she was qt Tbh :3
>>64180851
>get held at gunpoint
>at one point put on a smug face and think alejandro pls
>>64180472
christ his eyes are terrifying
Who here eagerly awaiting the sequel?
>>64180999
He has that "I'm gonna kill your whole family" look
![Sicario.2015.1080p.BluRay.x264-SPARKS.mkv_snapshot_01.10.43_[2015.12.24_18.59.38].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9UK4zJ3.jpg "Sicario.2015.1080p.BluRay.x264-SPARKS.mkv_snapshot_01.10.43_[2015.12.24_18.59.38].jpg")
>>64180914
HES SOFT ON WOMEN
ONLY KILLED CARTEL'S WIFE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO TAKE HIS ENTIRE FAMILY AWAY LIKE WHAT WAS DONE TO HIM
>>64181065
More like "The only reason I haven't killed your whole family is because I don't know where they are" look.
>>64181033
Here, i hope they dont do any backstory on him, we already know his motivations we dont need to explicitly go through the whole transformation, besides hes much better with some mystery and uncertainty about his past
>>64181065
they're so remorseless, like the eyes of someone who looks at lives like playthings
best song coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkWl5ctiWyM
>>64181130
sounds like special forces guys are fun to be around
>>64180389
I think so. I never to go to /k/ but did the other day and started reading about him. It fits.
>>64173686
>movies men will never get
>>64180548
"Now tip your maids."
its no country for young cunts
>>64181475
>started reading about him
source? Im kinda interested now.
>>64181481
You mean women. That was literally the point of the movie.
>>64181533
I found a Know Your Meme that looked to be scheduled for deletion but there's probs a wiki or something.
>>64180389
>Sergeant Major Vining's awards and decorations include the Legion of Merit Medal, Bronze Star Medal, two Defense Meritorious Service Medals, the Army Meritorious Service Medal, the Joint Service Commendation Medal, the Army Commendation Medal, two Joint Service Achievement Medals, the Army Achievement Medal, nine Good Conduct Medals, two National Defense Service Medals, two Armed Forces Expeditionary Medals, the Vietnam Service Medal with three Campaign stars, the Southwest Asia Service Medal, two Humanitarian Service Medals, the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal, the Liberation and Defense of Kuwait Medal, two Joint Meritorious Unit Awards, the Valorous Unit Award, the Meritorious Unit commendations, and the Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm Unit Citation.
damn
>>64181638
And those are just the ones he took off dudes he killed
>>64180908
at what point does it clearly state that he is a former lawyer? I heard them call him a D.O.D adviser or some shit. But I thought by the end it was pretty clear that he's an ex columbian cartel dude that has obv connection, especially if he was higher ranking in the Medellin Cartel, and now he pairs up with any government agency that will lead him towards his revenge. Why do people think he was some pencil pushing lawyer?
>>64181755
The film doesn't say lawyer. Lot of casuals are getting the word prosecutor mixed with it.
>>64181894
The boss he kills calls him the grieving lawyer. Pay attention dickbag.
>>64181755
His interaction with the mexican federale in the US army base before water boarding the diaz brother. The mexican guy calls alejandro "Counselor" and they knew eachothers families so we can assume he worked in some type of law field in Mexico where he would be working with other lawyers
My take on it is, his family was killed in retaliation for him putting away from cartel members/working with rival cartels and he realized he will never get his revenge or hurt them being a lawyer, so he joins the colombians because they have no connections to mexico and could take him in and he gets training from somewhere, theres dozens of cartels/paramilitaries/spy agencies in south america to choose from and the CIA decide to use him because he doesnt care if he dies as long as he gets to kill the cartel boss in mexico which is in line with what the CIA and medellin cartel wants and the CIA loves disposable assets they have no connection to.
part of the appeal is the mystery and uncertainty to his character
>>64181755
https://youtu.be/zdlzm6blunE?t=4m
>>64182019
specifically at 4 minutes in he says it
>>64181755
>For Mexico
>I was a prosecuter
>>64182019
>Powerful Mexican druglord
>Only has a few guards
That was my only gripe
>>64182019
Thanks must have missed that
>>64182219
Well his family lives there you could understand he wouldnt want dozens of armed men walking around everywhere and he thinks hes untouchable, even threatening to kill a cartel boss would be a death sentence in mexico
literally just finished it, that was a pretty damn good movie, i wish they fleshed out some of the plot more, it seems like they focused on long sequences instead of spending a bit more time explaining motivations. Like when the guy says every house is gonna have an IED now and thats supposed to help convince her to join this mystery task force, how the fuck do you know that man?
how would killing just one drug lord restore power to the columbian cartel?
a simple revenge story with low hanging social commentary about the cycle of violence and some really tense sequences. Also they whole bit with her getting seduced by the corrupt cop should have been cut and more plot added. Maybe im just dumb and didnt pick up on everything but it feels like it could use a few more lines to explain some stuff here and there man
>>64182299
>every house is gonna have an IED now and thats supposed to help convince her to join this mystery task force, how the fuck do you know that man?
hes pointing out the futility in her teams current mission, they spend weeks and months working to get enough evidence to get a warrent to raid a house and get nowhere because the top members are all insulated legally and financially and they have the added risk of booby traps/more heavily armed cartel enforcers.
>how would killing just one drug lord restore power to the columbian cartel?
in a span of a couple of days the cartel have
>lost 2 high ranking members
>had hundreds of millions in assets and cash frozen
>one of their biggest supply routes for drugs and cash over the border attacked and presumably shut down
remember the scene where the marine takes kate to the rooftop to check out the violence after they successfully extract the diaz brother? "what happens when you cut the head off a chicken"
this creates an unstable power vacuum making the cartel a softer target for the colombians to move in
>>64180742
I'm having trouble here, are you saying that notvining wasn't believable in that scene or?
>So uh, is he gonna..
>"Not in front of the kids"
>Oh motherfucker
Biggest problem I had with the movie is I completely stopped caring about the main character after the bus depot scene, and she didnt do anythinggg redeeming for the rest of the movie to make me care again.
I'm going to watch this in a few minutes.
Emily Blunt looks like my primita. I love her so much! So bonita!
>be FBI
>allow yourself to be pushed around by CIA
She should have known better.
Emily Blunt's acting/character are a shit. Everything else about the movie is wonderful.
>>64176973
He was aMedellin Cartel enforcer contracted by the CIA to kill the Juarez Cartel leader after said leader ordered the death of his wife and daughter. He had no group technically, as Medellin no longer officially exists, but it was so large that many of its members are alive and still influencing drug trade today.
>>64182433
okay that makes sense thanks
>>64173686
>i dont get it
You're a woman.
The war on drugs could be easily won in 1 week. just mine and militarize the border. The American government purposely lets in drugs.
>>64182666
satan trips of enlightenment
>>64174000
You realize that Mexican prosecutors are almost exclusively taken from prior law enforcement/military, right? Completely feasible that he was OPER80R before his family was kidnapped, and simply brushed up on his old skills to work with the Colombians. Given his connections to the CIA, it's possible he recieved training from them as well.
>>64182666
US-Mexico trade is a 200 billions market, imagine how many truck that represent
Now imagine how many cop and mine required to stop smuggling from boats or private planes
>>64182753
>foreigner receive CIA training
>but Blunt doesn't even get CIA 101 in the Farm so she wouldn't freak out on how the CIA does their business
>>64182219
I thought the entire raid on the tunnel was designed to draw off most of the drug lord's soldiers. CIA repeatedly says that they're trying to create a big distraction.
>>64182666
Nice try, Satan, nice fucking try.
>>64182830
> foreigner recieved CIA training
Well, the CIA can only work outside of the US, so they do that all the time.
> Blunt doesn't get CIA 101
They only let her on the task force to make it semi-legal and kept her in the dark as much as possible. Did you even watch the movie? They literally say that she's only there to sign off on everything. They wouldn't even tell her where they were driving, why would they train her?
>>64182876
no they are trying to create a distraction so the guards on either side of the tunnel are either killed or run away and dont see alejandro cross over
the whole point of finding the tunnel is to get alejandro into mexico without anyone knowing, us agencies included, they cant just drive through the border or go through official channels
>>64182953
>why would they train her?
They were considering her as a operative. If she was gravy with the entire operation it was in their aims to take her on and give her the training.
It was basically a 'let's show her what we do a bit and see if she's okay with it'. Of course her real role was to sign off on it, but hiring her on was also part of the goal. But she turned out to not have the motal ambiguity to do it. Or the understanding.
Walking into the bank for example. She just didn't understand how deep the corruption went.
>>64183007
why couldn't he just climb the fence?
>>64183009
>They were considering her as a operative
they werent, they wanted her to stay behind but werent going to physically stop her, they wouldnt give her any information untill she was on the verge of walking away from the taskforce and ruining their plan.
>>64182953
They wanted her because they saw potential in her as an operative or an asset.
That's why they didn't take her nigger friend because he was red-pilled already.
>>64183050
Because that guy was wrong. The point of the tunnel was for him to eat his way up the food chain.
>>64182299
>how would killing just one drug lord restore power to the columbian cartel?
Something tells me that's not the first or last druglord they have killed/plan to kill
>>64183050
cameras, border guards, plus it takes miles to get to any sort of civilization and word of a bunch of US operator looking guys in juarez would spread to the cartel within an hour, plus their plan hinged on intercepting the other diaz brother on his way to the cartel boss
>>64183064
>they werent, they wanted her to stay behind but werent going to physically stop he
Watch the movie again. They were considering her, but they realised she wasn't CIA material when she kept whining about due process. That's when she was marginalised.
>>64183065
>>64183065
>They wanted her because they saw potential in her as an operative or an asset.
no they didnt they specifically chose her because shes a "door kicker" she doesnt get involved in the higher up investigations
they rejected the black guy because he was in the middle of law school and would be more willing to pull the plug and walk away because of how unbelievably illegal all the shit they were doing was
the only reason he stayed is because kate wanted to see things through
>>64183099
trust me its really easy to evade cams and guards on the boarder
>>64174000
Prosecutors in Colombia during the "crazy" years after Pablo Escobar gotshot to pieces sonwere operator as fuck if they didn't want to come home and find their wives' guts hanging from the roof. Some of them were trained by the US to lead the "policia judicial" (cops that helped a judge to close a case, arguably the ones who risked the most).
Del Toro's character is a little bit over the top but it's believable nonetheless
>>64183152
by the time they got into juarez and managed to get a vehicle for alejandro diaz could have been at the house already
>>64183108
To be fair on her they flat out lied to her which destroyed any form of trust and cooperation they wanted from her.
>We be in El Paso - instead picks up a HVT in Juarez
>>64183205
i was just making a mexican immigrant joke.
anyhoot, why was it so important he/they intercept diaz?
>>64183316
DID YOU
WATCH
THE MOVIE
>>64183371
>join Muhreens/Army
>be high speed
>if Muhreens, make sure to get a BUDS contract/if Army, make sure to get a RASP contract
>go through BUDS/RASP
>become operator
>if in the Army, apply for Delta and become the CIA's unofficial attack dogs
>if in the Navy, finish service and then apply at Langley, Virginia
>>64180483
at that point you know you're going to die so why would it be awkward?
I mean am I weird but it's like
>ok my family is dead and I'm going to die but this guy said to keep eating...cool whatever.
I mean at least he isn't going to throw my ass in a vat of acid.
Just watched this movie during Christmas eve.
HOLY SHIT I WAS ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT THE ENTIRE TIME
>>64183316
kill 2 birds with one stone and easier access to the cartel bosses house, a random unexpected car in the middle of the night would get lit the fuck up before it even reached the gates
>>64182513
Bu that's the point of the movie.
Why the fuck didn't Burn Notice have more screen time damn it.
We get faggot ass nobody deltas instead of charismatic spies. Hell he was probably a spy trying to kill someone in mexico for going after some daughter of some poor chick that came to his mother for help.
>>64183560
>the point of the movie is to make us not give two shits about the main character
well mission accomplished I guess
BRAVO
>>64183641
Clearly you just dont get it.
>>64183474
Thanks, be right back.
>>64183641
The point is to show you that the cartels don't play by the book and the give enemy cannot afford to. Idealism has no place in the drug war.
>>64174052
>>64174103
Samefag
![Gulf-War-051[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/O29S2Tc.jpg "Gulf-War-051[1].jpg")
>>64183566
No he was based off of someone from Delta IRL. The infamous Grinning Vining
>>64183371
Whats going on on this gif? Does he squeeze the baby rabbit out of the mother rabbit?
>>64183725
I still see a problem with COMPLETELY losing interest in the MAIN character 30 mins into a movie. If all I'm going to care about is based del toro and flip flops, than just make the movie about them
>>64183775
She isn't the main character, Alejandro is.
>>64183800
she is one we follow, we explore the world as she does, and learn as she learns. She's the protag mate.
>>64183800
There is an awful lot of time developing a character is she isnt the main character. and main person in the movie poster.
>>64183771
Yes and they all lived happily ever after
>>64183845
>>64183853
She's just your window into the world so you can understand the reality of it. That's why the sequel is just going to focus on him. Del Toro had them cut 90% of his dialogue as well as a sex scene to add some mystique. Had Gru left it in tact it would be more obvious.
>>64183929
I get it I guess I just don't like that style or technique. Leaves me feeling annoying and empty like I've wasted half the movie being invested in her when basically ditch her half way thru. Especially when you're not given anyone else to really connect with or follow.
Even after getting reassurance from her boss that she wasn't stepping outside any boundaries, the strong independent woman could still not wrap her head around the notion of "not by the book"
As for the super-lawyer, the only believable background would be if he was already an action man before becoming a lawyer.
Even revenge fuel can't turn a faggot white collar in a killing hitman machine
>>64184086
The whole point of the story is that the person she is, the ideals she holds, her way of life is childish bullshit propped up by the shaky rules inside peaceful America. When it comes to the real world, she's worthless and can be killed at any second - and the only reason she isn't is because the CIA needs her.
That's why she never does anything redeeming, it's literally because she's incapable. You're supposed to be awed by how defenseless, how foolish and incapable she becomes. The beginning of the movie makes you think yeah, maybe she can hang, given how she's climbed the ladder and proven herself, then the shit that happens when they drive through Mexico. Then it's a gut punch and endless tension as you begin to realize she is utterly out of her depth and moments from a brutal death at every turn.
>>64177938
They looked like a /k/ meetup desu senpai
>>64183309
because they didn't need shit from her except to pin her name on the whole thing. she could have sat in an office the entire fucking time and it wouldn't have mattered, as long as they got that signature at the end.
I take liberals didn't respond well to this movie? RT score is lower than TFA.
>>64184487
Fug, why all these legit explanations and "points of the story" completely fly over my head in Hollywood films ??
>>64173824
two of the best movies this year, the fuck are you on about
>>64184605
you spend too much time consuming garbage media, so you get used to garbage
that's not an insult, it's just what it is
>>64184605
You go into these movies with narrow expectations of how a story should unfold. Keep an open mind next time.
>>64184605
Either you watch mostly shit or you're the type of person that is just wrapped up in viewing the movie that you don't really think about it. Not a bad thing and sometimes I wish I was like that. One of my friends is surprised by every single twist endings and sometimes I envy that.
EMILY BLUNTS CHARACTER IS THE AUDIENCE SURROGATE, SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MORAL COMPASS THAT GETS COMPLETELY BLOWN THE FUCK OUT BECAUSE SHES NOT A WOLF AND THATS THE REALITY OF THE DRUG WAR
FUCK
>>64184621
OR garbage films like Sicario place extreme emphasis on plot-action and have a few paper thin characters as fillers
"Fans" fill in the gaps with character development in the same way a movie critic props up a film, uncovering deep motifs from literal scraps
Checkmate atheist
>>64184753
lel I guess if that's the way you feel, sure
>>64173686
>i dont get it
The subtext? I'll translate.
Mexicans behave like savages, hate while people, and the more of them making up a percentage of any white city the less civilized, more criminal, violent and dangerous for whites it will become.
>>64183641
She as a protagonist has ideals the audience can latch on to, as she is idealistic and initially believes the cartels can be defeated by US organisations / that is the purpose of US involvement. As the movie progresses the audience is shown through her that this is not the case. She is a device to push the story along and give it a frame of reference, the movie is not a character study (if it is it certainly isn't studying her) and the overarching message of the film is that the drug trade will never be defeated, only controlled.
>>64184655
WHY DO YOU WRITE EVERY(EVERY)THING IN CAPS?!
NICE DUBS
>>64173813
just watch the border then, alrdy been done and better
>>64184906
I thought they were hammering the point in for idiots when they said "Unless you can get americans to stop snorting and sniffing that trash..."
>>64184597
the message probably fucked with them. and the stark callousness. Was not a 'fun' movie by any means
>>64184753
character development doesn't matter a whole, this isn't a character driven story. The motivations for them are there, the depth comes from the actual plot and dialogue, rather than character development
>>64173686
The us government is corrupt and shady as fuck. End of story.
>>64184929
yes his dialogue in that scene explained what was shown visually / through the plot throughout the movie
>>64184994
Missed the point
>>64184994
most governments are to some degree, all in all they're still the lesser evil
>>64184881
Doesn't matter if you're brown, black, yellow, white, or fucking red, savagery is around in all countries and backgrounds it's just more prevalent in poor/developing areas. Developed countries can manage/control their undesirables a bit better. Go back to /pol/ with your ignorant racist garbage, and please don't reply to me with one of your misconstrued violence relating to ethnicity graphs, you'll just make yourself look bad.
>>64182666
>militarize the border
You think military personnel is any les corruptable than cops?
>>64185064
come on man, that was some pretty obvious bait. Take a chill pill.
>>64185027
A movie can have several "points", or messages. One of them is clearly that the us government has part of responsibility in this. They train and arm cartel guys, they get involved in the business etc.
>>64184549
If they didn't need her why didn't the CIA just ask for her boss' signature?
>>64185037
People who think "everyone does it" tend to come from countries with corrupt government agencies. It's part of the problem, people think this is how things are supposed to be.
But there's a lot of countries out there that are NOT doing this sort of stuff.
>>64185088
It's pretty hard to tell when a /pol/tard is being real or not. And don't worry, I'm completely relaxed, hombre.
>>64185091
I didn't walk away from this film with any feeling of this message being told. I was just left thinking that shit's more complicated than we like to think it is concerning the drug trade.
>>64185126
Those countries don't neighbour Mexico either.
>>64185064
I love you.
>>64185183
>I didn't walk away from this film with any feeling of this message being told.
well, maybe you should think about it
you have some police unit that is literally out of control
they can cap some fools and no one is there to say anything when they break multiple laws
one of the reasons Blunts character is reacting with disgust is that they're doing several illegal things
>>64184906
also she serves as a frame of reference, if she wasnt there and the movie was just about some guys being operator as fuck, there would hardly be any context to get a feel for just how much weight there is to what they are doing
>>64180243
>Car fulla dudes with guns
>Was about to literally turn his back on them
>>64185269
He baited them.
>>64183174
Knowledge.
>>64185229
All they're doing is retaliating to the violence leaking over to their doorstep, but completely ignoring most of their rules. Whether the government is guilty or not guilty in arming and training the cartels is not really the point of this film imo. Besides, the Mexican cartels weren't really "armed" by us, we just gave them the motivation for illegal activity by making it profitable. A lot of these Mexican cartel members are ex Mexican military tired of barely making anything, and they don't even need training/guns from us, their training is fucking brutal. Other southern american countries probably did though.
I was surprised how good it was. Emily Blunt being the liason doesn't seem to make sense? Can she even speak Spanish? And wouldn't they want to pick some former Marine or something if they're doing all this operator shit.
She's a great actress though so I guess it doesn't really matter. Might even be wrong about the logic about her selection.
They didn't want the black guy because he was a lawyer though. Why not pick some former military drone who's now police instead? Besides the fact that we would have no plot.
Oh and I don't know the point. Evil breeding evil maybe. Del Toro becoming just as evil as the people who killed his family.
>>64185410
and Del Toro looks just like a Mexican Brad Pitt.
>>64185410
Brolin picked Blunt because she has no attachments (divorced, no kids, no BF), is actually good at her job and is basically a glorified door kicker unlike Jamal who served time in the sandbox and has a law degree.
They only needed her presence and approval because as law nigga states they're not authorized to conduct special operations inside US territory (lie). That's why Brolin tells her that she's free to sit back and relax whenever she threatens to leave, at best he could have told her that he only needed her to overcome a teeny weeny bit of legal hurdle. If she left, no big deal because they're going to find someone who is willing to be their pawn.
>>64174103
>Blackhat
>good movie
Just fuck you!
>>64185568
this
He probably picked her because she's woman as well and thus would be more likely persuaded/threatened to authorize the shit they did.
>>64180472
>>64180389
Reminds me more of this guy tbqh familiar.
![Sicario.mp4_snapshot_00.42.38_[2015.12.26_00.11.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ro1IRpE.jpg "Sicario.mp4_snapshot_00.42.38_[2015.12.26_00.11.35].jpg")
Senora Cartel, I'm Medellin.
>>64185850
d-did he rape him?
>>64173686
Medal Ian lived his life a half mile at a time
>>64185872
Waterboarding
>>64173686
>i don't get it
Choose a different life.
He should've hablo'd ingles.
>>64185872the dude got totally raped
>>64185229
how do you miss the point this bad
>>64184579
>one shot at torso level and they're all dead
What a bunch of bitchmade family memebers.
I know it's been asked, but was Del Toro's character an actual prosecutor, or was that just either a lie or a cover story? Makes sense that his family was probably killed because of cartel violence, but I don't know where he'd go from there to jumping in bed with the CIA.
I get the reason for the CIA, though, or so I think. The cartels have become so fragmented and bloody that it's spilling into the streets, and starting to filter across the border. They want it to go back to how it was in the 80's and prior, where there were fewer (possibly only one) large cartels, which could be more easily negotiated with and controlled (drug trade would still exist, but less beheadings, etc., and with a more centralised cartel structure the CIA/US Gov't could more easily collect any kickbacks, which is probably their ultimate desire).
And that's what Del Toro ultimately begins at the end of the movie, but again, it would make more sense if he was already involved in the cartel business prior to being with the CIA, rather than the prosecutor story.
Only watched it once and it was at 4-6am, so you know it was a great movie if it kept me awake and engaged, but I might have missed some plot details.
>>64185850
Look at that huge cock on Brolin.
>>64186350
He doesn't want to stop the drug trade. Their problem with the cartels is that they can't control them as easily because now everything is kinda decentralized. Back in the day the CIA probably sold drugs themselves, like taking them to black neighborhoods.
>>64185850
Was he a big guy?
What is it with CIA and standing in front of their airplanes while their henchmen are standing in the background? Btw. Benicio would've made a better Bane.
>>64186569
But that's exactly what I said in my post, I'm asking why would a prosecutor want to do that, from a story-writing aspect, wouldn't having a lesser drug cartel leader/enforcer/someone involved in the business who was wronged in some way (family killed) be a better story, rather than some random prosecutor?
>>64186507
That's a camel toe.
>>64186627
Prosecutor is a euphemism for a hitman/enforcer.
>>64186627
You're asking me how clock works. For now, let us just look at the time.
>>64181065
>
"I'm gonna kill your children and make you eat their eyes, mmkay?"
>>64186676
That's what I initially asked, if it was a coverstory/euphemism (couldn't think of that word, it's 11am and I've been up all night) for an enforcer.
It would make a lot more sense if that was/is the case.
>>64174000
>like Rachel Mc Adams in TD
So they finally filmed the Turner Diaries?
>>64186676
This is what I thought the implication was.
>>64186715
We just don't know. But tell me how he knew the old mexican cop like that if he was a criminal?
I liked the overarching theme and the cinematography.
The actual plot was paper thin. Elite Squad 1 and 2 both did it a lot better. (And yes, I know those films have flaws as well, thank you.)
In addition I'd like to state my opinion that Del Toro's character was partly a rip-off of pic related.
>>64186882
The screenplay was different in a few places. I read it a while ago, but from what I remember, Villenvue (sp?) made some great changes.
In the screenplay the cartel guy at the end is given a choice - Del Toro will kill his wife or him. He chooses the wife and shoots the cartel man anyway.
The opening of the film is far better than the script - it opened on Del Toro drowning someone in a baptism kind of way, while reciting a prayer. Shane also fucked Blunt outside the bar and got knocked clean out by the black guy when he discovered who he was.
The screenplay was the weakest, as it was really just 3 set pieces. They were phenomenal, a lesser director would have butchered it, but Villenvue was able to lift it to greater heights. 7.5 seems to low, because the score was one of the best I've heard in years, and the direction, cinematography and performances were GOAT; I'd say a solid 8/10. It may be a slight bit generous, but when people are handing out 10/10s for Star Wars, Antman, Interstellar etc, it seems incredibly fair
>>64186927
Isn't that Pablo Escobar?
>>64186989
Forgot to say, the kids were left alive and the wife. Told to leave. I think the killing of the kids and family was great, and ballsy. No American director would have the guts imo. I didn't think it would happen.
>>64174000
Absolutely none of the movie was believable. You know how quickly dead bodies start to stink? A day, if their assholes aren't plugged up. Even if their assholes are plugged up, they start to reek in a week. The bodies in the wall bit was too ridiculous to even put in a movie. Yet, they did.
>>64174000
>pussy "hard woman" like Rachel Mc Adams in TD that did nothing at all
Isn't that believable? I personally met people like that.
>>64187053
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mummified-body-woman-found-filthy-san-francisco-home-article-1.2175770
You need to try harder.
>>64187053
Some bodies even stink before they are dead Anon.
>>64187108
>Workers wearing oxygen masks needed several days to remove enough of the trash to uncover the corpse...
I guess you didn't read it.
>>64179806
I feel asleep during public enemies in the theater. Want to be mann slumber party pals anon? :3
>>64186993
Same actor.
Del Toto was probably too old or too expensive for "Narcos".
>>64185064
"Don't reply to me with evidence because that would make me feel bad."
>>64183641
>>the point of the movie is to make us not give two shits about the main character
>well mission accomplished I guess
>BRAVO
The point was that the director paints a picture that this particular war on drugs is so convoluted that a traditional good guy would be in so far over their heads that not only would they be useless they would actually irritate the audience. In doing this he is saying that any notion of there being good guys in this war is ridiculous. And as an audience we are so morally fucked up its easier to relate to an old testament revenge eye for an eye bad ass, an illegal morally bankrupt government agency that get the job done no matter the cost than someone who stands by their principles and tries to do the good/right thing.
>>64173686
You have to be 18 to post on this site.
>>64187665
/thread
Brolin's character insomuch states that short of Americans putting down the nose candy this is now the reality of the war on drugs.
>>64187953
>short of Americans putting down the nose candy
Or legalising it.
But drug cartels would HATE that, and so they lobby politicians to keep it illegal.
Nice world we live in.
>>64182017
were it Rey though, she would have been a simple farmer one day, and the next, beating Del Toro at his own sicario gig.
>>64186715
Mexican boss refers to him as the grieving lawyer though
>>64173686
There was nothing to get. The movie was a fedora fest filled with nothing but 2nd rate action scenes and meaningless memecinematography from Deakins as Villeneuve hasn't got anything of his own.
Shit movie through and through, props for Blunt trying to save it with good acting at parts
