Another Patch Edition.
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So we've got some options for patch designs. What should /asg/ go with for its official sekrit klub patch design if any?
ass juice
Are TAG (Tactical Airsoft Gear) uniforms any good? Airsplat has them for absolutely dirt cheap, like $10-$20
>>837687
Never heard of them, but I can make a guess that they'd be like Rothco or Propper.
>>837645
Do you guys buy Ivan's patches? Would Ivan sell /asg/ specific patches like he does /k/ specific ones?
http://www.kommandostore.com/custom-manufacture/patches.html
>>837736
I would order stuff from Ivan, mainly some desert flecktarn, but I don't want a box sitting on my doorstep that says stuff like "ZIMMERNATOR 9000" or "Over 20 lbs of pussy and ass!"
A couple of my friends have the pantsu patches and they're pretty good quality though.
>>837816
You can ask him to not write on the box and he'll oblige, Ivan's a good guy like that.
>>837645
How many of you milsim fags wear legit ballistic protection in-game? I've got my plate carrier loaded with soft ballistic panels and a couple of training plates because oorah.
>>837843
I've heard of people putting actual ceramic or steel plates in their gear and I personally think it's kind of silly. I don't know but I see it as taking the milsim too seriously.
If I wanted the heft then I would get some training plates like you said, or get some of those cheap replica SAPIs and fill them to the brim with sand.
>>837851
I could see using steel or composite plates, but if you play airshit with ceramic plates, you're gonna have a bad time--fuckers are expensive to replace and easy to fuck-up if you're worried about actual ballistic performance later on down the road.
>>837645
I've got a coyote brown IBA. I need a new costume, but I'm not switching out the vest: what kit can I build besides an American one?
>>837854
Take your pick from these wonderful travel destinations!
>>837895
Well, it's not much, but I've already saved up 10 kopiyok to put towards a new kit.
>>837918
Which is like $0.004 USD. I wonder if Ukrainians still accept Soviet currency?
>>837736
If we're happy with the ASG patch design I can try and get in contact with Ivan and see if he'd manufacture and stock them.
>>837935
Do it, i found 2hu patchshop on storenvy. I could imagine Ivan making the /asg/ patch since they made the sc/out/ memebear
Hey guys bit of a favor to ask
Can someone give me the dimensions of a SVD magazine (pic related), in centimeters preferably.
Is the ASG, KWA, and KSC Glock 17 the same thing?
shouldn't that be permissum non gaudium instead
>>838006
Latin is really fucking hard to translate. I'll accept suggestions and corrections
>>838006
>>838007
Maybe instead of "no fun allowed" in Latin we should do something like "Normies Go Home", but misconjugated like, "NORMES EUNT DOMUS"
>>838012
normies non grata
>>838015
>normies non grata
I like it.
>>837988
Why? Might do it afterwork if its still needed.
Anyone know the difference between the Stark Arms Super Grade S17 (glock 17) and the Sark Arms Pro Tactical S17? One seems to be double the price of the other but I can't see why.
>>838062
He needs to know because of the wires in his magwell.
Anyone hoping to pick up a easy fix boneyard gun after christmas? I know there's gonna be a big influx of "broken" guns going to be returned.
i played airsoft and gun broke
sad
>>838066
Stark Arms Pro Tactical has a steel slide.
>>838198
So the standard one has an aluminium slide?
Also I've seen that there is a Gen3 G17 by Stark Arms, and a Gen4 G17 with full trademarks, I'm wondering if there are any differences to them since its obviously nicer.
I want to run one of these with the CO2 mags.
>>838207
>CO2
Why?
>>838277
Works all year, get 7 mags from one sparkler, don't have to carry around a big can of gas, higher power.
>>837843
I occasionally wear my PASGT for the aesthetic.
>/asp/ becomes /asp/+wrestling
>90% of catalog is nothing but wrestling
>All those niche or obscuring sporting stuffs get pushed off the board
What the fuck
Why
I've been gone way too fucking long.
Is buying graveyard guns and fixing them still a good savings? I remember last I was seriously into airsoft retailers were starting to catch on to that and broken guns were creeping up towards 20% discounts at best.
Yet somehow I doubt I could sell my crap for very much.
Do used TM's sell anymore?
I've been meaning to get rid of my old airsoft stuff but I've been out of it for so long. Yet TM was pretty much becoming obsolete last I remember.
>>838378
It really depends on your area. If you plan to buy+repair+sell, I would advise against it.
If you want to buy cheap+repair+abuse, then do it
>>838378
>Is buying graveyard guns and fixing them still a good savings
It's a gamble at best. If the gun is externally pristine, then yeah, internals TEND to be pretty solid, but external parts and proprietary elements might make boneyards impractical. For best results, keep your buys to easily repairable guns like AKs and M4s.
As for the TMs, depends on which ones.
>>838352
I would wear a real PASGT too since the replicas always look so off. Although if I could find a good replica then I'd get that.
>>838378
Blame the fact that wrasslin was shitting up /sp/ so Moot2 pushed them over here.
>Is buying graveyard guns and fixing them still a good savings?
If you know that it's a simple fix, then yes. When I got my WE M14, I got it for $138 from AirsoftGI's boneyard simply because it had a dented flash hider.
>Do used TM's sell anymore?
Depends on the gun.
Older and rarer TMs like the SPAS, PSG-1, and p90s (just to name a few) still have some form of demand and have a slight premium over other guns thanks to their rarity or internal build quality.
A friend of mine has an early production TM XM177 and it shoots like it was brand new, even if it's over a decade old and running on stock parts. Only recently did it have the piston strip.
>>838400
>>838387
>>838386
>>838378
TM AUG
It was the only option back in the day, aside from Classic Army which I'd believe it if they're still complete crap for internals.
It's so worn now it would have made no difference to buy a JG in the first place.
The P90 I believe has alternative manufacturers, as does the FAMAS now. PSG-1 and Type 89 for the odd gearbox features I'd actually consider to have value.
What happened to the Both Elephant Type 89 clone? I was going to buy one before I quit, on par or better then the TM in all aspects. Seems they're out of manufacture now.
Also, is APS any good? Seems to be a new manufacturer actually doing their own thing.
KWA still king of the crop for out-of-the-box?
Anymore I think I might just retire to chairsofting, tuning clones for fun. Last big thing was the R-Hop I think they decided to call it "invented" by that one egomaniac from ASM.
Madbull still the best all-around value for tightbores?
>>837816
>tfw ordered from ivan and didn't get any notes or anything :(
>>838355
Hey are you the guy with the black eye?
>>838417
There are a couple other companies that now make P90s (Classic Army, JG/Echo1, G&G, King Arms, and WE now even makes a gas one), but Marui still makes the best one.
>What happened to the Both Elephant Type 89 clone?
BE just kinda fell off the face of the earth, but I believe they're just another name for JG since the Type 89 is also sold under their name. Either way, good luck finding one new since I believe they're been out of production for a couple years.
>is APS any good
Ehhhh. They're okay.
Just stay away from the electric blowback guns.
>KWA still king of the crop for out-of-the-box?
They're still pretty good, but they're not then only one anymore.
There's G&P, Krytac, E&L, LCT, and a couple others to name a few.
R-Hops and flathops are still a pretty big thing and are great range boosts.
>Madbull still the best all-around value for tightbores?
There's RA-Tech and Angel Custom, which make their tightbores out of steel so no.
>>838417
The TM AUG is still good, but it is difficult for it to maintain its value over other AUGs without the optic.
The TM P90s are the only P90s on the market that hold their value, and the only P90s with built in optics that are worth a damn. FAMAS is shit no matter who you buy from.
The Type 89 clones went exactly where they should have: out of production. TM 89s are still getting made and have a cult following though, because they're totally worth it.
APS has SOME good parts offerings (Silver Edge gearbox) and a half-decent polymer bullpup in the UAR, but everything else, don't bother. Their pistols blow up and their other AEGs just blow.
KWA is what it's always been out of the box: proprietary shit. Whatever edge in pricing they once have, they don't really have it anymore. If you mean higher-end M4s, Krytac are the new big boy in town. If you mean lower-end guns, CYMA AKs are still and remain the best bang for your buck period, even with reports of declining parts quality.
New hotness now are Tipman manufactured HPA M4s. There's talk they're working on an AK and MP5 too. There's also some mysterious magnetic system that some small company is supposedly coming out with, but there's sparse details there. Flathopping has mostly supplanted R-hopping for preferred modification, if only due to ease of installation.
Value for cost, madbull sort of is. They're really more middle of the road. There are other manufacturers that put out similar kit. I run a Lonex steel barrel and it's been great.
Honestly, if you're this far behind, you'd make an awful chairsofter. I'd recommend prettying up one of your guns and just go out and play.
>>838471
Yes. Long story short I told a speedkid to get his shit together and act his age (16) and he started a fight away from the field and had an older friend of his jump in. Last time I try to fight fair.
Moral of the story is don't get kicked in the face by a crackhead in steel toe boots.
>>838073
Yes it will, how do I know? I own both and the SVD mag is bigger than the short VSS mag.
>>838417
>What happened to the Both Elephant Type 89
I think there was just some factory producing them in China and then a number of different stickers got put on them, CSI, JG, Tercel, BE.
They are still available in HK stores, be warned the 3 round burst is unreliable, though everything else is fairly solid.
>>838705
bigger in al 3 measurements?
Anyway thanks, I've asked this two threads in a row and no one responded until now.
>>838700
Holy shit dude. Hopefully they banned that guy from wherever you were playing at.
>Want to get an AK-104/5 with a 1P63 or an RPK-74m with a 1P78
>Don't own a real AK so I can't justify paying $400-600 for a scope that would sit on a bbgat
kill me desu
I hope that one day a company like Asura Dynamics starts making knockoff Russian sights.
>>838848
He said it was off field so I doubt the field can do anything.
>>838856
I know that feel bro...
>>838848
Funny thing is, he's a ref there and all the witnesses were both drunk and his friends/sister so they would vouch for him. I don't want the cops involved because he's a minor. I'm never going back to that field again, place was garbage anyway. It was a lasertag arena that they let us use for airsoft on Saturdays. Only place to play without driving an hour and 30 minutes plus, and entry was only $8.
I have successfully fucked them out of playing anywhere else ever again. This happened the 10th and I've been emailing friends and making phone calls ever since. I've also heard that one of them had been brandishing a taser and acting like he was going to shock someone with it at the field, from more than one trusted source.
>playing with a potentially lethal weapon in public
>around people whose obsession is firearms and their replicas
How to become a statistic.
Ideal airsoft game?
>massive piece of wooded land with bodies of water for naval operations (ideally a wide river with several coves)
>hilly but not enough to be a pain in the ass to navigate or exhaust players too quickly
>some roads, open fields
>armored vehicles (tanks, APCs) having compressed nerf cannon duels from several hundred yards
>mounted patrols
>realistic MOUT facility
>semi-strict uniform requirements for each team
>third faction insurgents/guerrillas in civilian clothes that can actually roleplay
>admin/chain of command that can actually admin/chain of command
>planes doing simulated strafing/bombing runs
>blank fire
>3-4 days long
>tobacco/snack/toiletry vendors onsite in case people run out of stuff
Basically take Fulda Gap, Broken Home, and Milsim West, add them together, sprinkle in some East Wind (RIP), and there you have it.
>>838933
DESU my ideal airsoft game is basically Battlefield Hardline.
>Cops vs Robbers
>One side in Black/Blue with M4's, M870's, MP5s, G36C
>Other side kebab with DPM, Jeans/hoodie, other civvie clothing, woolen balaclava, AK's, Galils, Bizons, non-american weapons.
>Urban sprawl complete with coffee plazas, shops, parking garage, tight office building.
>Proper radio usage, supplied by site
>Rescue the Hostage
>Steal da loot
>Blow up the Embassy
>Car chase?
>One whole day of 1 hour(ish) games
>Grenades fucking everywhere
>Costume competition for best loadout on each side.
>>838933
don't know but I would really like to be part of a huge urban game. As in actual believable buildings with lots of people. Don't think I've seen that in any video so far.
Think about your average city basically. There. Squares, parks, alleys, apartments etc. That's where I'd want to try airsofting.
>>838933
I would like something more RP based, using indigenous populations for intel, whole functioning town of non-combatants etc
>>838933
My ideal OP
> if you die in the OP, you die for real.
>>839091
But for real, an OP with actual air cav and motorized infantry. Something in the lines of a cross between the vietnam war and bush wars of africa. A main op with evolving side ops ie hostage rescue, kidnapping or assassinations and espionage.
Trying to decide between the following black vests:
http://www.military1st.co.uk/04613a-tactical-army-adjustable-vest-molle-light-modular-black.html
http://www.military1st.co.uk/13461002-mil-tec-carrier-vest-modular-system-black.html
http://www.military1st.co.uk/58631-019-5.11-vtac-lbe-tactical-vest-black.html
http://www.military1st.co.uk/13462102-mil-tec-molle-carrier-vest-black.html
This is for a police-like loadout. One of them is pretty fucking pricey but its currently one of my favourites.
Any thoughts/suggestions?
>>838933
Basically MilSim West, but with more vehicles (transport helicopters, and APCs for Mech. Inf.) and a stricter chain of command.
>>839260
If you can afford the 5.11 one go for it, buy once cry once.
Get some kind of body armor under it and roll. I'm sure it will look cool AF.
>>839406
Why not just get a plate carrier then?
>>839424
Because that's not how the police rolls.
Now some are changing to modern plate carriers but as far as I know some important units still do that, tho it's more of a classic loadout.
>>839533
>>839424
Looks very cool to me.
>>838933
Massive industrial complex with lots of structures and distances between cover
>>839643
So pretty much the factory at Raid on Rostov.
>>839692
Alternative names:
T.W.A.T (Team Watch Anime Together)
K.B.A.B
>>839711
Man.... I really dislike the riot stock. I'm much happier with the full, folding, or collapsable stock. Also they're a damn sight cheaper.
Navy shit is hard to find. Military1st have a 5.11 Navy set but the shirt alone is £75 and considering I spent £50 on the MP5 I don't think I'm willing to blow that much.
>>839701
Well, a normal milsim-going /asg/ force is called SMUG Squad, in reference to smug anime faces, so TWAT would work pretty well. Fun Police is another good one, but this thread doesn't really have a huge problem with the whole "stop liking what I don't like" thing.
>>839725
Proper definitely have navy blue shit. Heck, if you wanted you could pretty easily get a pair of navy blue dungarees and a surplus W. German navy jacket. Throw on a police vest, some subloads, and POLIZEI patches, a MICH, and boom, late 90s GSG-9.
>>839711
Heres a potential uniform
http://www.military1st.co.uk/sp-sfn-pr-37-helikon-sfu-next-trousers-polycotton-ripstop-navy-blue.html
http://www.military1st.co.uk/11835003-teesar-bdu-shirt-ripstop-navy-blue.html
Black gloves of your choice
Black M88 helmet (Full ear cover one) or Riot helmet
One-hole balacalava (Black)
Black boots of your choice
Black kneepads or kneepad inserts.
MP5 (Your choice in config)
Glock 17
Grenades
SURVEY TIME FAGGOTS
POST YOUR AIRSOFT SKILLS
Airsoft Skills (S to F rank)
[Skill]
>Close-quarters
>Medium range
>Long range
>(Your overall play skill and tactics)
>Fitness
>(Your overall fitness/stamina)
>Equipment
>(How well are you equipped regardless of its quality)
>Tech
>(Your knowledge about airsoft tech)
>Survival
>(Your knowledge about survival/flora/fauna/etc.)
[Proficiency]
>(Your proficiency with different weapon classes and equipment)
>Handguns
>Assault rifles
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols
>Shotguns
>Sniper rifles
>Machine guns
>Launchers
>Throwable/placeable
>Equipment
>>840958
>Self-reporting
Already have your results. Posters on /asg/ are the Golden Gods of Airsoft, whom none can defeat and none can outsmart or outshoot. Our tech skills are unrivaled, capable of turning even the lowliest of LPEGs into monsters all HPA spammers fear. We all use the perfect equipment for the job and can survive weeks innawoods, tracking targets with our bb-gats which we have tuned to perfectly to shoot further than a match .338 Lapua competition rifle and have over three hundred confirmed kills with.
>>840958
>[Skill]
>>Close-quarters C
>>Medium range A
>>Long range C
>>Fitness A
>>Equipment S
>>Tech C
>>Survival B
>[Proficiency]
>>Handguns A
>>Assault rifles B
>>Sniper rifles Z
>>Launchers C
>>840958
[Skill]
>Close-quarters: B (tend to hesitate because of muh rules/MSDs)
>Medium range: A (perfect range for me, just watching scrubs drop, tend to get trigger happy though)
>Long range: D (I'm legitimately short-sighted and have problems to see three-dimensionally on extreme ranges)
>Fitness: E (>tfw fat and no /fit/izen)
>Equipment: C (standard equipment, nothing fancy, carry mags like a nigger though)
>Tech: B (Know the physics I need, which parts I need to use, and can program simple circuits. Also I can disassemble and reassemble any AEG/GBB)
>Survival: D (Never got the chance to put them to the test, also basics only)
[Proficiency]
>Handguns: S (tend to be a lurker with them, can take out snipers with muh deagle and handle recoil single-handed)
>Assault rifles: A (My choice for primaries, can take on DMR and assault roles)
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols: B (don't like the format, appreciate their fire-rate)
>Shotguns: B (Love me some upclose and personal combat, also fun to pump shit up)
>Sniper rifles: D (see long-range combat, also I'm not much into sniping)
>Machine guns: C (tend to spray-and-pray than being proficient with them because it's too much fun)
>Launchers: B (not hard to handle, right?)
>Throwable/placeable: C (know how to use them and not go snackbar with them)
>Equipment: C (At leas know how to properly use it, don't know about extended usages before though)
>>840958
I don't skirmish but I'd wager I'm pretty shit at all of those.
Well, I suppose I might be able to do covering fire, but that's really not that hard of a concept.
>>840958
[Skill]
>Close Quarters: C - I play nothing but woodland so I usually choke when I get into the odd CQB situation.
>Medium Range: A - 90% of my successes are at this range.
>Long range: B - I'm one of those assholes who is pretty good at arcing his shots when the hop won't reach on its own.
>Fitness: C+ - Average fitness, Slightly above average stamina
>Equipment: B - I rock a ChiCom chest rig or an LBVE for most games and it works very well for me and my playstyle. In the summer I wear lightweight BDUs and in the winter I rock combat pants and a hoodie.
>Tech: D+ - I can do pretty much everything that doesn't involve opening up the gearbox. I get the principles but I'm just not that good at it in practice.
Survival: B - Basically your average joe in this department. I can hunt and forage but what does that have to do with airshit? I can flank and do false retreats exceptionally well in the woods...
[Proficiency]
>Handguns - B
>Assault Rifles - A
>SMG - A
>Shotguns - D
>Sniper Rifles - D
>Machine Guns - N/A
>Launchers - N/A
>Throwable/placeable - N/A
>Equipment - N/A
>Melee - A (I've got my club record for knife and melee successes)
SURVEY TIME FAGGOTS
POST YOUR AIRSOFT SKILLS
Airsoft Skills (S to F rank)
[Skill]
>Close-quarters
C. I don't do indoor CQB because it's shit, but I'm not completely terrible at MOUT.
>Medium range
A. Innawoods is mostly mid-range stuff and that is where I excel.
>Long range
B. I don't snipe but I can accurately engage targets out to the maximum range of my M16.
>(Your overall play skill and tactics)
>Fitness
D. I smoke a lot and have poor stamina but I also have giant balls and push through the tiredness a lot. Once the adrenaline wears off I have to take a breather.
>(Your overall fitness/stamina)
>Equipment
>(How well are you equipped regardless of its quality)
LC-2/ALICE/M56 webgear. It works very well, it allows full range of motion, and it's breathable. I can wear a bulky winter coat under it if it's cold, and if it's hot it doesn't hold in heat like a plate carrier or some chest rigs.
>Tech
>(Your knowledge about airsoft tech)
F. I cannot tech at all.
>Survival
>(Your knowledge about survival/flora/fauna/etc.)
A.
I can trap and hunt, I know what plants to avoid eating or touching. I know basic land nav and proper water purification procedures, as well as how to build a fire in adverse conditions and stay warm if a fire isn't an option.
[Proficiency]
>(Your proficiency with different weapon classes and equipment)
>Handguns
A. Standing at 35 yards with my 1911 I can shoot about an inch and a half group (pretty good for airsoft)
>Assault rifles
A. Rifles aren't hard to use, especially airsoft with no real noise or recoil.
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols
A.
>Shotguns
B.
>Sniper rifles
B. I don't snipe often but I'm a good shot.
>Machine guns
A. I can actually into suppression and engaging strongest point of contact.
>Launchers
C. Haven't done this much, don't own one, not that accurate, but I can usually get on target with corrective fire.
>Throwable/placeable
A. It's literally throwing a ball
>Equipment
I know how to use my gear and set it up right.
>>840958
>>Close-quarters B
>>Medium range B-
>>Long range C
>>Fitness C+)
>>Equipment B
>>Tech F- Its literally magic
>>Survival D+
>>Handguns C
>>Assault rifles C
>>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols B+
>>Shotguns C
>>Sniper rifles C
>>Machine guns C
>>Launchers C
>>Throwable/placeable C
>implying anyone will read this
>>840958
>[Skill]
>>Close-quarters - S
>>Medium range - A
>>Long range - C
>>Fitness - B
>>Equipment - B
>>Tech - A
>>Survival - B
>[Proficiency]
>>Handguns - A
>>Assault rifles - n/a
>>Sub-machine guns - S
>>Shotguns - n/a
>>Sniper rifles - n/a
>>Machine guns - n/a
>>Launchers - n/a
>>Throwable/placeable - B
>>Equipment - B
>>840958
>Close-quarters C
>Medium range A
>Long range F
>Fitness D
>Equipment D
>Tech B
>Survival D
>Handguns S
>Assault rifles B
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols D
>Shotguns F
>Sniper rifles D
>Machine guns B
>Launchers C
>Throwable/placeable F
>Equipment C
>>840958
>[Skill]
>>Close-quarters B
>>Medium range A
>>Long range D
>>Fitness B
>>Equipment B
>>Tech C
>>Survival C
>[Proficiency]
>>Handguns C
>>Assault rifles B
>>Sniper rifles F
>>Launchers F
>>Throwable/placeable D
>>Equipment D
>tfw
>>842156
What the hell is speedsoft?
>>842286
Playing airsoft like speedball(paintball game variant), so high ROF guns and constant running. It negatively associated with assholes running around with BB-hose P*s and overshooting their targets.
>>842286
Speedsoft/SpeedQB is the bastard child of paintball's speedball. It consists of highly tuned HPA guns, and lots of suicide rushes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QNg3G2ewAA
It's for those that either couldn't handle going against other speedballers in paintball, or couldn't afford to piss away so many painballs per game.
>>842297
>lots of suicide rushes
So what stops these people from strapping themselves with airshit grenades with all their pins connected to one string, sprinting into where a bunch of people are and screaming ALLAHU AKBHAR? Creativity?
>>842156
>We're not trying to make any of the speedsofters mad
>We don't cater to speedsofters
please tell me there is uproar from speedsofters
>>840958
Airsoft Skills (S to F rank)
[Skill]
>Close-quarters D
I tend to shoot people in the face uncontrollably, so I don't go to CQB range.
>Medium range B
Easy enough if you're a support gunner.
>Long range D
I usually see people incoming from large distances, but I usually lack range to hit shit.
>(Your overall play skill and tactics)
>Fitness C
I'm fine with walking around with a 9kg machine gun for prolonged periods of time, but don't expect me to run much, thanks to knee trauma.
>(Your overall fitness/stamina)
>Equipment B
I rock either an M58 pattern webbing or a plate carrier w/ warbelt, and multicam BDU.
>(How well are you equipped regardless of its quality)
>Tech C
I can fix a gun, but I don't know shit about upgrading.
>(Your knowledge about airsoft tech)
>Survival D
I'm fine with living in a tent innawoods for several days, but I ain't Bear Grylls.
>(Your knowledge about survival/flora/fauna/etc.)
[Proficiency]
>(Your proficiency with different weapon classes and equipment)
>Handguns F
Almost no experience
>Assault rifles D
Can't reload fast enough
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols D
Same here.
>Shotguns F
Never touched one.
>Sniper rifles D
Nah, not good.
>Machine guns B
YES, YEEEEEES, I'm good with my M60.
>Launchers F
Never tried one.
>Throwable/placeable C
When you pull the ring, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend!
>Equipment C
I often realise that I need my equipment to look cooler and store a pack of bbs, and that's it.
>>840958
>[Skill]
>Close-quarters
B
>Medium range
S
>Long range
A
>Fitness
A
>Equipment
S
>Tech
C
>Survival
A
[Proficiency]
>Handguns
B
>Assault rifles
A
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols
B
>Shotguns
F
>Sniper rifles
C
>Machine guns
D
>Launchers
F
>Throwable/placeable
F
>Equipment
A
>Skill
Rice hat.
>Proficiency
Driving in LA Traffic.
>>839159
I also have a BE Type 89, and after shimming, replacing the motor, hop rubber, and spring it's performed decently for the last 3 years. Though the 3 round burst gave up the ghost pretty early on (only fires full auto and semi). I managed to get hold of a complete TM hop unit, but haven't had to use it yet.
I guess the problem is that being an ACM gun QC is nearly non-existent.
>>840958
[Skill]
>Close-quarters A
>Medium range B
>Long range C
>(Your overall play skill and tactics)
Overall I'm very aggressive but kinda shitty vision makes long range a bit of a challenge for me
>Fitness B
I can go 8 hours with a 25 pound gun and 20 pounds of gear but I'll feel it the next day (and day after)
>(Your overall fitness/stamina)
>Equipment A
Modern Russian imports and replicas
>(How well are you equipped regardless of its quality)
>Tech C
I can work a hop up upgrade and swap gearboxes but that's about it. I'd most likely pay for someone to work on a gearbox
>(Your knowledge about airsoft tech)
>Survival A
I've slept in a hand-made shelter with a space blanket for insulation in 45F degree weather and I always have an emergency kit in my car. I've also gone tent camping in below freezing weather.
>(Your knowledge about survival/flora/fauna/etc.)
[Proficiency]
>(Your proficiency with different weapon classes and equipment)
>Handguns A
>Assault rifles B
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols B
>Shotguns D
>Sniper rifles D
>Machine guns B
>Launchers B
>Throwable/placeable D
>Equipment C
Can someone restore the skype group link so people can actually join?
>Tfw IRT Defender 2 is on the way
>>842486
Just reply to the OP with with your skype name, one of us will put you in
>>842303
A man can dream.
>>842303
$$$
![[20 YEARS].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WaQ95cM.jpg "[20 YEARS].jpg")
>>842156
>Jericho
Just got an A&K CO2 SVD with a scope and 4 mags for $200.
What am I in for?
>>842864
I googled it and couldn't find anything.
You got an A&K SVD Bolt rifle with a CO2 conversion?
I hope the scope is nice atleast
>>842902
That's what I'm thinking
>>842348
Desu/10
>>842864
High and rather inconsistent fps, but it seems like a popular conversion so there must be something in it.
>>842864
Lot of work and money if you want it to be consistant and accurate.
Where should I look to get a good deal on an AEG? I don't mind having to fix it up if it means getting a better deal.
>>842864
Is it the straight pull co2 version or the gbb one? Either way though, I wouldn't really bother.
You could get a Cyma SVD for around that (King Arms, Classic Army, and A&K also make AEG SVDs, but they're based off of the classic army SVD; unlike the cyma which is based off of the holy grail of airsoft SVDs, the Real Sword.), and it'd be electric. http://www.evike.com/products/39120/
http://www.evike.com/products/42741/
Hell, you could get a WE SVD for a little under $40 more.
http://www.evike.com/products/39925/
>>843111
r/airsoftmarket, dedicated facebook groups, and your local field
Anyone tried those electric speedloaders? Having to load 170rnd midcaps is getting fucking old and having an automated way to do it would be nice.
Is the Laylax one powerful enough to load big midcaps or should I try and butcher an M249 mag and make my own?
>>843243
>not handloading BBs 1 by 1 up to 30 per mag
muh milsim! muh realism!
>>843256
Its better than using bitch buckets anyway
>>843256
>didn't have an adapter for my speed loader when I got my WE M14 so I had two reenact the 7.62mm scene from Full Metal Jacket every time I wanted to plink in the back yard
>>843243
I have one, yes they can handle deep midcaps. Only can get them through Redwolf. They do break eventually but are really nice in the meantime.
>>843285
Thank you Wangblows Phone for saving gifs as jpegs.
>>843285
>I had two
Are Classic Army Proline M15A4s any good? Someone at my local field is looking to sell his.
>>843526
Sure if the price is right. The stock internals aren't perfect, but maybe it'll work for a while.
>>843627
What would a good price be? And how long do you mean buy "maybe it'll work for a while"
>>840958
>>Close-quarters A
>>Medium range A
>>Long range B
>>Fitness B
>>Equipment A
>>Tech C
>>Survival B
>>Handguns B
>>Assault rifles A
>>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols A
>>Shotguns C
>>Sniper rifles C
>>Machine guns D
>>Launchers F
>>Throwable/placeable C
>>Equipment B
>>843256
That shit is rough enough on your thumbs that people will buy things like .webm related for reals.
Now, I've only ever loaded .22LR single stack mags, but that shit isn't pleasant on your thumbs. Though rifle mags would be double-stack dual-column, so they'd be a fair bit easier to load, that's still 30 rounds.
Loading airsoft mags is a bit rough on your thumbs too, so I can see the motivation for a loading tool
Someone said he/she wants this or not?
>>844068
>>842156
I wish I ran a aisoft field, i would actually have a speedsoft field.Which is just a empty lot and watch the chaos ensure with no rpm limits or fps.
http://www.evike.com/products/47940/
Just bought this, how'd I do?
>>844168
It's gear dude, that's pretty hard to fuck up.
>>844168
>http://www.evike.com/products/47940/
Looks pretty nice. Always worth getting a bag that can take two guns so you can bring your backup with you.
Nothing worse than turning up to the field only to find your main gun is fucked and you've got to survive with just a pistol all day.
>>844192
I always bring a Cyma AEG with me now
Once my polarstar's hop up got fucked because it was very dry and there was a fine powdery dust everywhere
>>844167
All fun and games until you get sued.
>>844408
Waiver forms
Anyone know how to straighten a very slightly bent suppressor? Bought it second hand and was told it was still functional, but every 5th shot flies out at a 45 degree angle.
Guy also sold me a gun with a 170mm barrel and somehow didn't think that was worth mentioning. I should have bitched but i bent over and just bought a new barrel.
Buying off reddit, never again.
>Anyone else get screwed on private sales?
>>844421
>implying waivers mean shit
>>844459
If you make them Ski resort tier they can hold up pretty well
Anyone looking for an HK-33?
http://www.airsplat.com/ksc-z330-hk33k-aeg-airsoft-rifle.html
>>844457
There are a few different types of traders.
-Pants on head retards. They break their already shitty guns/gear and desperately try to pawn it off on others. They then buy new and do it all over again. Probably the bulk of traders. You met this one.
-Collectors. They just enjoy owning lots of different shit but eventually get tired of having something around.
-Flippers. They think having a sale thread up for 3 years, spending a half day orchestrating the actual trade, in which they make $10 profit is somehow worth it. Generally ask for way too much money for not broken things.
-Quitters. They sell an absurd amount of shit for $200 OBO. Easily the best deals to be had, but you usually have to buy a heap of shit you don't really want to get that nicely priced G&P.
The pants on head retards are generally why, if I buy used, I lowball the fuck out of people. Unless I know they aren't already a POHRfag. EG: I got a sick deal on a KSC MP9, but the extra bolt he had was chewed to shit, the nozzle springs were fucked, and the piston head was ready to turn into dust. I anticipated things breaking based on the gun model and the guy being dumb, so I lowballed him, and for good reason.
>>842156
socal fields are literal cancer. I feel incredibly bad for you guys out there.
Any of you dudes know where i can buy the L1A1 SLR/ FN FAL replica?
Im new to airsoft and I want an L1A1, King Arms made one but no where seems to stock it anymore.
>Bonus points if long barrel version
>>844595
I should have pushed him harder because it was way more trashed than he made it out to be. Functional but still trashed. I guess this is one of those lessons you just gotta learn. At least it was a sub $200 purchase which is relatively cheap for this money pit we call a hobby.
>>844600
They have a more modern fal /sa58 model on airsoft gi for 190 if that interests you
>put in order for Beretta 84
And now we play the waiting game.
>>844600
eBay, Facebook b/s/t groups, or the classifieds on airsoft forums.
>JG G3A4 for $105 new
Yay or nay?
My only problem is finding a metal receiver for the thing. Cobra Airsoft has one but they're mad sketchy.
>>844600
Impossible to find, best bet is Ebay. You have about 0.000001% chance to get one. Your best bet, look into converting the Evike one.
>>844595
I feel a need to contribute to this "trader" thing. When It comes to second hand private sales, never let anyone blow smoke up your ass. Airsoft guns lose their value faster and harder than anything out there. Your Offer should be 50% or more(I go 75% off and work up) than the new price.
As a rule, airsoft guns are used hard and their build quality from the get go is not up to the rigor of fake combat. Any experienced gamer will bring 2 or more guns to any game due to the very likely chance it will break down. You have no idea what this seller has done to the weapon or the bullshit they might have wedged into their gearboxes, you almost just paying for the external parts.
Which brings up another point, if the seller has attached a great value to a weapon because of internal "upgrade" you need to ignore this "value". Internal parts are the cheapest and easiest to come by and switch out. Whatever money he wasted in upgrading the gun when he owned shouldn't mean shit to you.
The most money I would spend on a used gun is 200$, and I would have to really want it.
Name the top 5 airsoft gun manufacturers
Extra points for providing an explanation of why you think they are the best.
>>844595
>-Quitters.
>Easily the best deals to be had
I know some of them already doing reverse psychology with this general bias
high chance they are selling repaired shit for profit, lie about quitting makes things can go smoother
Guys i recently bought an aps asr116 with 7 mis cap (magpull licenced ) with the magazine pouch all of this for 170€ was it a good idea ?
>>844958
And the pic
>>844958
>>844961
>APS
>>844963
Why ?
>>844966
kek
>>844935
1. TM (most inovative)
2. RealSword (best externals in any airsoft gun)
3. CYMA (best price/quality, great starter guns)
I can't name 2 more and justify them being good
>>844989
E&L subjectively has better AK externals I'd say, but realsword prettymuch covers everything else.
Oh shi https://www.instagram.com/p/85NASJu2k7/
>>845062
Its not airsoft?
>>845076
it is
>>845062
The picture was removed, what was it?
>>845101
it is working fine, is a russian OP with tanks and stuff
>>844989
I wouldn't totally write off KWA even though they do proprietary parts, their stuff usually works well out of the box. If something goes wrong and we all know it will, then you run into trouble.
>I hate when in a CQB game, the whole team camp in a big room to wait until victory
>>845213
I just hate CQB in general
What nerf guns are we hoping mummy bought us then /asg/?
Only one more sleep to go !
>one is never enough
Has anyone found a reasonably priced brushstroke jacket in yurope?
Be it Rhodie, Belgian or even a WW2 Denison smock.
>>845238
Why? You don't do well in tight spaces?
>>845246
no guns
new stock for my m4 and a set of gucci digi flora
which means I'll be trading my m4 for an AK at some point
>>842297
>0:55
>aim at a guy for 2 seconds
>blast his upper body with 3 second burst
Why the fuck are these guys even allowed to play?
>>843981
>rough
Maybe if you have baby hands or shitty mags
I just bought a JG G608, battery 8.4V 1400mHa
Any internal upgrade suggestions?
My team focuses on operations and missions on the flowers. milsim. So I needed a gun with good accuracy and a nice range. MilSim mostly.
We do not play much forfun.
My guys are lost because they all have m4
>>845419
It's a basic starter gun. It's not bad per se, but you'll find it lacking quickly, specially if you play milsim.
Anyway, immediate replacements:
- inner barrel
- bucking
- idk if someone makes a good hop unit
THE HYPE
I S
R E A L
Seriously can someone explain me why aps and especialy the asr 116 should be a bad airsoft replic.
>>845465
GHK need to make a GBBR FAL after this.
>>842297
why don't set a ROF limit? might as well set a height limit too
>tfw finally found some decent kit inspo thinking it's legit and it's actually another bbsofter
>>838856
>tfw poorfag
>tfw can't justify buying a $239 PK-A because I want an optic that won't look like shit on an AK
why even live
>>844989
I can testify for CYMA, I own a CM040D and it shoots and looks beautiful.
>>845246
I asked for airsoft money, since I'm not entirely sure what I want. I'm either buying LCT AK accessories from Airsoft Megastore or ruski gear from Grey Shop
>>845535
http://www.ebairsoft.com/ppkka-style-illuminated-scope-p-8525.html
Anyone here have experience with cyma 1911 AEP? Been thinking about getting it as a cheap backup and for when shit gets to close range, since my main is M14(shit is long as fuck). My requirements are simple: AEP because fuck gas, 75m/s max, cheap. Any other recomendations?
>>845259
Is that one of those double 1911s?
When are those even released? I'd love one.
>>845549
AEPs are garbage, especially CYMA/WELL ones.
The battery capacity is small and they take ages to charge, batteries are proprietary to CYMA and Marui, internals are cheap and prone to breaking with little no replacement parts, weak battery combined with a weak motor results in poor trigger response and a low ROF, and the CYMA 1911 is bigger than a regular 1911 so you'll need to use a cheap cloth holster or get a kydex one custom made.
My advice? Just get a KJW 1911 and don't even bother with AEPs. Gas guns are stupid easy to maintain and have a plethora of parts compared to AEPs.
>>845110
I saw it, it's fucking awesome.
>>842297
>>845551
soon will release in your country, mkay?
not just one version, and not just one brand making them
>>845580
>Floral pattern
Win
>>845583
Is that the same pattern a their glocks?
>>845584
https://shop.jkarmy.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x800/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/e/we_1911_classic_floral_pattern_gbb_pistol_airsoft_3.jpg
Oh god.
Which gorka should I buy guise? There are so many!
>>845584
I am all in for a double barrel Glock.
>>845599
SSO
If anything else then re-enforce the belt loops and buttons.
>>845580
I feel like it would jam a whole lot more than it should
>>845580
>They didn't even bother to fuse together the trigger guards or blend together the two grips
Bravo WE
>Trying to troubleshoot a hop-up issue when I hate constantly disassembling my gun and am completely retarded when it comes to techwork.
>>845671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=endd_9AJurY
>>845675
That's more like it. Those look like KJW nozzles too so hopefully it'll be of better quality than the WE.
>>845664
It's a retarded gun anyway.
>>845246
140,000,000 bbs and a plate carrier.
>>845664
>asking for a practical design on two 1911s welded together
As a general rule, which is more important, upgrading your gun or getting better gear?
>>845880
Depends on the quality of your gun and gear, but usually upgrading your gun is more important. Take this from someone who started playing because it was a good excuse to use the gear I already had from being a gearqueer.
Merry Christmas everyone!
>>845868
It's actually more complicated than that, which is just so much worse because a lot of effort went into making that fucking monstrosity.
It literally would just have made more sense to make a kit that's a brace/frame fitting as grips for attaching two separate 1911 pistols together, which then comes with the slide and other parts for a left ejecting gun.
Would probably be way cheaper than this shit. Then when you're done with your stupid toy you have two perfectly fine pistols instead of a retarded one.
>>845896
Merry christmas bro.
What new nerf guns did we get for xmas then /asg/?
Post em
>>845929
One of these days I'll convert my WELL MP7 to deans and utterly kill the gears.
Merry Christmas!
>>845947
Top shelf keks
Right, just bought almost all of my police loadout. Fuck that was expensive :(
>>845999
What's left in your loadout list?
>>846003
Glock 17 (Preferably Stark Arms), belt holster, and belt mag holster.
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
>>846029
>tacti-onesie
I need it
What did /asp/ get for Christmas?
I bought myself a Fort Defender 2 and my family got me a gun rack and a Condor fleece jacket
>>845942
Well compact machine gun gears are steel so you'll probably kill something else in the gearbox.
>>846134
not a glock :(
>>846134
LODS EMONE
How hard would it be to fit a pouch like http://www.torontoairsoft.com/ESKI--Triple-ARAK-Mag-Pouch-OD-_p_3975.html, into a messenger bag like this,
http://www.armysurplusworld.com/product.asp?ProductID=1131
>>846187
Can you stitch?
SPEEDSOFT HOLOCAUST
N O W
>>846211
I'm glad I play private games, so I don't have to deal with these fucks
Sexyrussiancamo.jpeg
Post pics of you Christmas hauls faggots
how bad are .12 BBs?
>>846187
With basic sewing skills anything is possible
>>846245
The #1 to instantly wreck your gun. Avoid avoid avoid
>>846245
If they're high quality then they're not terrible
Its just that heavier weight bbs generally are more consistent due to them not being influenced as much by air.
>>846248
If he's getting shitty sporting good store ones yeah
The real issue with .12s, even the high quality ones made by reputable brands is that they're shit in terms of outdoor areas or any place with large amounts of air circulation.
>>846245
Terrible. The turbulence caused by a butterfly could knock a .12 bb off course.
>>846257
Suka blyat,where's the vodka bottle dump pouch?
>>846245
Great for cheap moscart ammo.
Happy Christmas motherfuckers.
Happy non-denominational end-of-year-break!
>>846268
on my currently unattatched belt
wanted this 4 xmas - http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/12261-we-bell-m1911a1-co2-gbb-full-metal-airsoft-pistol-bell-823mb-co2.aspx
got this 4 xmas - http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/12261-we-bell-m1911a1-co2-gbb-full-metal-airsoft-pistol-bell-823mb-co2.aspx
got this 4 xmas - http://www.evike.com/products/45596/
Which is better? Am i lucky or unlucky? halp meh plz.
>>846289
the first "got this" is a copy, disregard.
>>846297
Le cool and edgy meme
>noose yourself please
Not necessarily a Chrimbus gift, but I got this secondhand AIM GBB CO2 SVD today. Pretty nice, even came with the scope. Can't decide on a name.
>>846343
With Katya.
Still waiting for evike to send me my KWC M712
any of you fags want to read my outline for an event?
>>846356
No
>>846356
Sure.
http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/12261-we-bell-m1911a1-co2-gbb-full-metal-airsoft-pistol-bell-823mb-co2.aspx or http://www.evike.com/products/45596/
>>846356
sure
