What was the meaning of this scene?
>>63995867
filler
>>63995867
The making of the best new character from the movie.
Spin off when?
TRAITOR
Waste of a great character, TR-8R could have been one of the best things to happen to the series
To show that stormtroopers are trained with melee weapons so that when Finn picks up the lightsaber it's implied he knows how to fight with it
>>63995958
but he's a glorified janitor
>>63995993
if he's sanitation then why was he in the landing force on Jakku
>>63995993
Implying he doesn't swing a mop around like a sword when he's alone
>>63995993
this didnt make sense to me. the first order couldnt hire janitors? they had to kidnap children to become janitors?
>>63996079
ask anyone in the armed forces, it's all glorified sanitation
this scene was meant to glorify the police state oppressing blacks
>>63996090
yea they clean but finn makes it sound like hes never done anything of note other than being a janitor
meme
>>63996025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BmaPmo-EM8
>>63996079
In the army, navy, and marine corp, you often find yourself assigned to do bullshit jobs that you would think should be the territory of hired help, like mowing lawns, washing dishes,washing trucks, and even janitorial duties.
I just figured this is what they made Finn do on Starkiller Base.
>>63996117
>Finn is a janitor trooper
>they send himas part of the landing army invasion of Jakku
?????
What was he gonna clean all the toilets once they killed the town?
>>63995958
>its implied
you mean, we've actually seen Finn use it in a previous scene so it's less out of nowhere when it happens again.
>>63996159
mfw based Kylo cried out this heroic mans name in his honor before coming at Finn
truly the force was awakened
>>63995993
No, he was just assigned sanitation while stationed on the Star Killer Base. He got the same training as everyone else, but because he's bottom-rung with no combat experience he gets the most menial assignments at base.
They probably threw him and some other rookies into that Jakku landing division to season them a little.
>>63995867
to sell more stormtrooper toys
>>63996247
ah makes sense, probably the best explanation ive seen
>>63996051
kek
>>63996285
You really needed that explained to you? Finn states that jakku was his first taste of combat
>>63995867
It would've added a lot more to Captain Phasma if she was the one fighting Finn and not some random stormtrooper
>>63996247
Still doesn't explain why they would put rookies into a division led by not only Captain Phasma but also Kylo Ren himself. No military would ever have a regiment of scrubs under direct command of high ranking officers.
It should have been Captain Phasma doing the whole traitor thing
Prove me wrong
>>63996835
>Phasma is head of Sanitation
>>63996237
>>63995867
the point was to make finn using the saber at the end vs kylo easier to accept. hey we saw him use it earlier somewhat decently vs the trooper right?
>>63996190
You never heard of a cleaning crew?
Gotta hide the evidence from the Republic somehow.
>>63996843
Yes and no.
From a narrative standpoint it would've made much more sense since she was already established as a specter from Finn's past life.
But as a matter of world-building it appealed to me that we found out that rank-and-file stormtroopers have the training necessary to handle that kind of engagement.
>>63996894
He wasn't somewhat decent, he got destroyed by that stormtrooper. And yet he got a blow in Kylo Ren.
Stormtrooper>Kylo Ren
>>63996939
Agreed.
Somehow finding out that all Stormtroopers AREN'T dangerously incompetent was so fucking satisfying.
>>63996969
i'm not saying i agree with it or that it was well done but that was the point of the traitor vs finn fight
>>63996159
What a lot of people don't know is that TR-8R is actually force sensitive.
>>63996752
walked into the movie late, i didnt get in till rey was introduced
>Finn gets sliced up by Kylo's lightsaber
>he's only in a coma, will be fine
>everyone else not plot important in the universe who gets touched by one dies immediately
hue
I believe JJ wanted to plant the seed that Finn did betray his storm trooper brethern, and will open up a narrative later on in the sequels. If he's betrayed the only think he's ever known in his life, then why not betray other people.
TR8TOR
>>63996969
Kylo was injured and yes it probably did give finn a few pointers on saber fights
>>63997028
>late for Star Wars
How is that even possible? I was 12 mins late because my ride doesn't know how clocks work, and I STILL sat through 30 mins of trailers and ads.
Does ne1 have a webm of this scene, im dying to see it again.
>>63996835
As far as I understood, the mission was basically a cakewalk and they threw in some greenhorns to give them experience.
I mean really, they were basically on a shooting gallery against villagers from a backwater scavenging planet.
>>63997071
Anon you're expecting JJ to explore something in-depth.
>>63997072
It's amazing he was even still alive after getting shot by the bowcaster right in the dick. It sent all the stormtroopers flipping to death.
In fact, a single shot was enough to kill TR-8R (unless he's just knocked out?). Kylo just keeps going and gets in two more fights like he doesn't give a shit.
>>63995867
This is the "i wanna fuck that rabbit" pose
>>63995993
Holy shit man, have you no knowledge about how things get done in the military? It's the soldiers who clean military bases and cook and serve food and repair stuff. Being given janitorial duty doesn't mean you weren't trained as a soldier, in fact every soldier would do basic manual labor like that at some point.
So as far as I can tell, the most likely candidate for who played TR-8R was Nigel Godrich.
>>63995867
Selling toys.
Since when do stun weapons deflect lightsabers?
Could you just make a tank covered in electrified material and have it be lightsaber-proof?
Or is it related to the force power of the wielder?
>>63997489
Not many toys of him yet.
>>63997646
Since the Empire was taken down by a lone Padawan and his traitor dad.
It helps to be prepared for that shit to happen again.
>>63997646
Kylo is tasked with hunting down Luke. Some of his troopers would have weapons to actually fight a jedi and not get their shit completely rekt.
>>63997646
plot holes lel
the baton probabbly uses something like the lightsabers energy, but on a level only enough to deflect itself, not cut through metal
>>63995867
T O Y S
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>>63997697
>>63997697
But I thought lightsabers were dangerous because they can pierce anything, deflect lasers, etc. But you can just repel them with electricity? Electricity, which I imagine is lower-energy than what's in a lightsaber?
Why doesn't Kylo have armor covered in electrical coils then? Or just drop an electrified cage on top of the jedi.
black lives matter
>>63996152
To clarify even more, unless your MOS requires your attention all the time, the Army will ALWAYS force you into bullshit details.
>>63997756
>Overthinking Star Wars
Why didn't they just put a metal grate over the exhaust port?
>People reasoning that they're useful for hunting down Luke/Jedi/Force users
No you idiots. Did you notice in the movie you watched that Kylo could put people in stasis and push/pull them with incredible power? If these troopers met Luke he'd just push them into a tree or wall instead of engage them in combat.
When your opponent can defeat you without using a real weapon and instead just a gesture you're fucked no matter what. Why this trooper had this riot gear I don't know. Maybe to subdue and capture prisoners from Maz's place? Kylo likes to interrogate after all. It's mentioned in the visual dictionary.
>>63997393
do you think the writer of the fucking movie knew that?
>>63995867
>TR-8R
to make Daniel Craig earn his paycheck
>>63997828
it's too hot
I mean, I can understand a massive structure is always going to have SOME structural weak point. But lightsabers have been established as cutting through anything in the universe except other lightsabers (and maybe static forcefields? I dunno) so if they're so easy to counter, why isn't everything made of stun baton
>>63997108
Take your pick.
http://webmshare.com/play/zYWYw
https://my.mixtape.moe/dhobtx.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/xnmjld.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/tdcovr.mp4
>>63995867
Tom Cruise having the time of his life doing an unscripted fight scene in a storm trooper outfit
>>63995867
so they could have a scene with a white guy beating the shit out of a minority with a baton. why the fuck else? seriously, WHY ELSE? WHY? ELSE? there's nothing like being forced to cheer for a certain side, especially when it's a jew doing it
>>63997646
>Since when do stun weapons deflect lightsabers?
>>63997756
light saber is basically a plasma gun that doesn't completely fire the pew pew beam.
the baton that stormtrooper is using is basically deflector shield on a stick.
>>63997985
>PT
>>63995867
HE IS THE TRAITOR AAAAGGHGHGHHH
>>63998028
>hating the prequels
LITERALLY FUCK YOU
The prequels are comfy as fuck. Fun storytelling, awesome worlds, great characters, awesome action, and meaningful moments. True Star Wars.
I noticed that before 2009, a lot of people liked the prequels. Many were disappointed, but few outright hated them, and like I said, A LOT of people were willing to say they liked them. A thread like this couldn't exist today:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.72432-Am-I-the-only-SW-prequels-fan?page=3
Ever since Plinky the fat fuck made his reviews, Redditors have constantly linked to them, as if "Another guy said these movies suck so they suck!!!1111 I can't form my own opinions lol111!" He nitpicks the movies so much, his fans don't realize that you can nitpick ANY good movie to that level and it'll look bad.
prequels4life
>>63998028
>PT has superior master race villains
>PT has fucking palpatine
>TFA has snoke
>TFA has a magnaguard wannabe stormtrooper with a tiny stick
>>63996117
maybe its all a lie. maybe hes just a plant to get close to skywalker and kill him
>>63997834
>Merr-Son canonised
>BlasTech canonised
Neat.
>>63998086
>mike loved TFA
>didn't have a single negative thing to say about it in a 42 minute discussion
>>63998096
>Hating TR-8R
Literally the most based stormtrooper to ever exist.
>>63998086
>Prequels
>Comfy
I always put on a prequel when I want to fall asleep so I guess they're comfy
>>63998086
>jew jew bucks ooh meesa fucking toy
>darth boohoo I wuv u padme ;w;
>muh younglins
>>63997990
>defecting blaster fire with a tonfa
Do you know how retarded this sounds?
>>63998086
>great characters
Hahahaha
>>63998086
we parrot them because it's essentially the quintessential critique on the prequels.
Only braindead retards defend the films, they aren't just bad star wars movies. they are overall bad movies.
take a screenwriting class dumbass
>>63997834
>based on clones
>takes significant casualties taking on fucking villagers
>unable to fulfill simple tasks
>literally shittiest versions of the stormtroopers to date other than rebels
>nothing more than white supremacist fanatics
they make a mockery of their heritage
>>63997985
THIS MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE STORMTROOPERS WOULD HAVE THOSE WEAPONS.
General Grievous guards had them because Grievous went after Jedi, and shown by his collection of lighsabers inside his cape.
Why the fuck would First Order Stormtroopers have these weapons when Jedi are fucking gone?
There is no fucking reason those things should block a lightsaber, but Disney cant show Finn slicing up Stormtroopers, so to show Finn in combat they made lightsabers able to be blocked by normal metal sticks.
Fucking gay.
>>63998274
the jew writing it wanted a scene where a white guy with a baton hits a black guy. when you're trying to send a message like that, reality tends to get left behind
#BLACKLIVESMATTER
the scene
>>63996969
Dude Kylo got blindsided by a laser-crossbow that was shown capable of launching infantry several feet backwards, and was mentally rattled after making the definitive choice he has been wrestling with for who knows how long. Even with his strength and focus compromised like that, he still gave us the best lightsaber duel we've seen since the OT.
Basically what this guy said >>63997264
>>63995867
Showing that Storm Troopers aren't just shitty fodder for the important characters.
Of course they still are so this whole scene was kinda awkward, try-hard and pointless. At least the kids on 4chan and meme spouters loved it.
Toys.
>>63998154
as retarded as swinging around a pillar of superheated plasma that can cut from any direction.
>>63998274
you noticed when the that stormtrooper hit finn and he flew way the fuck back?
dont you think that would be an excellent weapon for riot control?
the fact that it can deflect lightsabers is just an added bonus.
and you know what, even IF they carried that weapon specifically to fend of jedis it would make sense. seeing as how last time ONE fucking jedi killed both vader and sidious as far as anyone knows.
>>63998321
I like TR-8R but I hated that scene as it was pointless.
I also hated the later scene where Rey got away, Kylo went nuts, and those two stormtroopers just walked away.
>>63998453
there's a message in the tr8r scene, but i'm going to let you figure out what it is and i'll leave you with a hint because you're a cool guy
imagery
>>63998468
About how the faceless white men are oppressing the disillusioned black folks?
>>63998492
who's the writer of this movie? what type of people are his least favorite?
>>63995867
A betrayed person who had a lot of his friends murdered by an traitor decides to step forward against his advesary, trying his best to avenge his fallen comrades.
>>63998548
>what type of people are his least favorite?
people who like Star Wars?
>>63995867
>Traitor!
What did he mean by this?
>>63995867
>>63996159
>>63997112
>>63998086
>prequels were good
end this meme
>>63997095
seriously thought thats what would happen but i arrived 15 minutes late and the movie was already going on. i guess my theaters had a different policy on trailers
>>63998743
not quite but good enough hahaha
Finn is a traitor. He turned traitor to the right side, but doesn't mean he didn't turn traitor.
I like to read this Stormtrooper as the one that left the bloody hand print on Finn. It would be ironic given that Finn's "war is hell moment" came from a Stormtrooper that would later survive and turn on him.
In general I like that there is room for Finn to have relationships with other stormtroopers. I even liked the female commando stormtrooper. But maybe jus cuz thats my fetish boi
>>63998876
>that one trooper behind finn stopping to fire one shot
I have no idea why I find this funny
>>63998957
>Finn
More like Dindu Nuffinn
>>63998957
imagine one of your closest friends leaves you and wants to kill you. youd automatically be fucking pissed and want to kill him back. its a nice bit of characterization but in a movie where the main characters are so shallow you wonder why they made this guy have any character
>>63999015
It's part of a trilogy. I think this movie doesn't really have shallow characterization as much as it has Hollywood blockbuster characterization.
It was an interesting moment which I think has a lot of meaning that will continue on into the future films.
>>63998876
look at that fucking technique with Finn at :24
>>63999101
That's the weird thing, in the movie, the main characters keep talking about side characters that only shows up for seconds.
Rey talking about the droid scavenger to BB-8, Rey and Han talking about the guy that bought the Millennium Falcon, why is the weird glasses woman even being all prophetic when she's not a Jedi? Will she be more relevant in the later movies? The way Han talked about her before they got in seemed like she'd have more of a personality but she turned out to be a plot exposition tool.
>>63998957
>>63999015
>>63999101
As much as this would be great, I doubt it'll ever get mentioned again; Finn killing that stormtrooper that is.
>>63999445
TRAITOR
>>63996881
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>>63999445
Traitor
>>63999515
But that's anachronistic, anon.
You'll have to wait for the force ghost scene in Episode IX (which let's face it, they will do).
>>63999515
top kek
>>63999474
Rey's nemesis is Kylo Ren, Finn's nemeses are the stormtroopers, I thought it'd be Phasma but as it turned out, troopers of Finn's levels are.
Maybe Finn will have to fight a bunch of troopers who banded together and put TR-8R as their martyr.
>>63999515
A more civilized man for a less civilized era.
>>63996051
Please be canon
>>63996079
There was a hot pocket shortage
