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10+Donna>every other nuwho pairingexcept those including Wilf
Last time >>63508846
First for GOAT pairing
Reminder that Peter Capaldi should've played Rassilon.
The Next Doctor will be Hayley Atwell.
Clara and Ashildr are getting their own spin-off
/who can't talk about anything interesting lore-wise without devolving into shitposting and horrible baiting.
Reminder that I would fuck ALL THIRTEEN!
/who/nger games when?
>>63520466
Now you're inventing excuses for him botching it, the Doctor was not insane, it takes weeks to go insane, he was perfectly sane when he entered, no one can deteriorate that quickly.
>>63520532
wait for after the christmas special then we can finish the last 5 rounds and do the final tournament
too much autism lately
>>63520550
>implying the Doctor is sane to begin with
>>63520581
Would it be blasphemous to do a series 9 only round?
>>63520583
>implying the Doctor is insane
American detected.
British/timelord eccentricity =/= insanity
>>63520637
>implying I'm implying that the doctor is insane
if you seriously think the doctor is completely sane after all he's been through you need to go watch a different show
>>63520758
>implying that I'm implying that you're implying that the Doctor is insane
The Doctor is a sick puppy but he's not insane insane, the Master is insane insane, the Doctor is just a bit off.
>>63520849
They are both insane, just different flavours of insanity.
The master is a sociopath and narcissist.
>>63521003
Let's just agree to disagree, my point is Capaldeh can't act for shit.
>>63521090
come back on christmas if you want better responses to your bait
/who/ is too dead right now to really do anything with it.
>>63521156
You mean come back when I can be spammed the fuck out, it would take a single person to prove me wrong yet nobody has even tried, find me a SINGLE (1) Capaldi scene where he shows an emotion that isn't shouting.
>>63521202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQvLgO-yMyA
>>63521202
I will say im impressed with your persistence you know there are other places you can go bait, like >>>/b/ right? If you cant appreciate a good actor then don't watch the show. There is nothing to prove wrong since your argument has literally 0 basis. Obviously the scene with Clara's last goodbyes on Face The Raven wasn't enough for you. And you'll say "Oh but Anon, he shouted in that as well" well I'm talking about the other part of that scene so please just stop.
>>63521323
Sorry anon, erratic talking is not an emotion.
I miss leak/who/
>>63520465
>unironically watching le wacky British man show
>>>/tumblr/
>>63521370
I can appreciate a good actor, unfortunately we haven't had one since Eccleston. And you're quite right, the face the raven scene was shouting, so you've already proved yourself wrong before I had to.
>>63521202
Capaldi in Heaven sent
>but what's the point, you'd still be gone even if I get out of here
I'm paraphrasing but that scene wasn't shouty nor angry
>>63521532
And their was no emotion, he was just acting decrepid, that's his natural state.
>>63521558
you're trying way too hard
I miss when memes were splink and fuck offerino and not trying to bait everyone
>>63521469
that was the comfiest /who/'s ever been
it was active but it wasn't filled with arguments and shitty b8s every day
complaining about /who/ is always worse than any /who/ thread so im just gonna stop here.
>>63521579
the dont be rude meme was pretty good desu
it actually made /who/ nicer for awhile
>>63521505
>I can appreciate a good actor, unfortunately we haven't had one since Eccleston.
Ah I wish you would have said this from the start... If I'd know you were one of these, you would have saved me lots of typing whatever GG go have fun idolizing someone that hates Doctor Who.
>>63521579
You appear to take issue with there being other opinions on this site, perhaps you'd prefer a more unanimous space, like reddit or tumblr?
>>63521667
now you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel of usual bait phrases
just give up anon
>>63521645
Better to idolise someone who did something right than someone who did something wrong, I didn't realise there were any people left on /who/ that openly liked Tennant.
>>63521698
You're probably right, I was wrong to assume a forum was a place for discussion.
>>63521635
>it was active but it wasn't filled with arguments and shitty b8s every day
There was that one argument about capaldi's outfit having the top button done up but not wearing a tie being a bad thing
>>63521758
You're right. I remember that. The guy posted Capaldis outfit on /fa/ to get opinions. Honestly it probably wasn't that much better, there's always a bit of nostalgia when you fond over something in the past. It's rarely as good as you remember.
>>63521635
Maybe we need to bring it back
>>63521836
I still have them.
I'll post em real quick.
reminder that the new sonic is silly
>>63520465
>>63520485
>>63520505
>>63520526
>>63520581
>>63521488
>>63521469
Reminder that /who/ loves shitty memes
>>63521890
>>63521873
that scene is silly but I think the sonic looks nice
i'm gonna miss the shades though desu
since the BBC released the scripts of Heaven Sent and Hell Bent, I shall begin my novelisation.
Should I do both of them together? Or separately?
>>63521202
The scene where he is shouting in Zygons, there's a moment where he almost cries thinking about the Timewar that felt pretty powerful.
You're coming on really strong, because Capaldi is a great actor and makes a good doctor, but I think you do have a point that sadness is a bit of a weak spot for him. Or at least the scripts don't give him a chance to do much with it. I remember his sad reaction when Clala seemingly died in the first episode of S9 was kinda bad.
Face the Raven is a good example though. He did a lot of quiet/sad stuff, conveying his emotion/reaction very well without even speaking at times let alone shouting.
>>63521990
probably better separately
i could make covers for you although i cant vouch for the quality of them
>>63521990
Tonally they are very different even though the plots are linked
I'd keep them separate
>>63522014
Yeah, I like him really I'm just trying to bait the autists.
>>63521899
/who/ memes are wonderful.
Za is no Leader
Eldrad Must Live
The Nimon Waits for No Man!
Harry Sullivan is an Imbecile!
Capaldi's the best waifu
Red Kangs are Best!
If we fight like animals, we die like animals!
Frobisher is the official hottest companion
Twelve is a Pimp Magician.
Ian Levine's in distress, let's all answer his s.o.s
Doctor Who is Best Watched Out of Order, But You Must Watch It All
Tom Baker has a tiny prick
There's nothing you can do to prevent the catharsis of spurious morality
You cannot change the canon, not one line!
>>63522038
The curve on thank you is pointless and obnoxious.
>>63522070
well i didnt make that one
also reminder this is a real genuine moffat quote.
>>63521873
reminder that the TARDIS is a cutie
>welcome home daddy uwu
>i made you a new toy~
>*spurts sonic screwdriver out of her console*
>>63521090
Capaldi is a decent actor. Not GREAT but decent. It's just Moffat writing. He can only do so much with bad writing. If RTD wrote Capaldi's doctor then you would've thought he was amazing.
>>63522094
>this is a real genuine moffat quote.
He's right you know.
>>63522057
It's not if we fight like animals we die like animals, it's if we ride like animals we die like animals.
Also,IT WAS SCARED.
>>63522094
I like how he likes to act really pompous and clever in his story telling but deep down he's no better than Russell.
>>63522038
I was thinking of the image of the confession dial alone, and a black background
>>63522114
Agreed.
>>63522135
that's an antiquated list I can add it though.
>>63522129
time for your bed russell
>>63521090
>Capaldeh can't act for shit.
le overreacting meme
Reminder that
>ywn have Jenna tell you to call her a slut in bed
why not just end it fâm?
>>63522129
> If RTD wrote Capaldi's doctor then you would've thought he was amazing.
It would still be shit if RTD was writing it
>>63522232
The "time for bed x" has always been my favourite meme, something about it just makes me laugh, like RTD is hunched over his laptop posting that he was the greatest script writer and someone has seen through it and told him nicely that it's time to turn off the laptop and try again tomorrow.
>tfw only War Games and Genisis of the Daleks had cool versions of the Time Lords
I don't get the RTD hate on 4chan. He wrote great characters. Plotwise he may have been weak at times but his characters were great. Whereas Moffat is just shit to mediocre all around.
>>63522359
Also every reference two and three ever had with them.
>>63522395
He wrote some good ones but not all of his characters were great.
>>63522395
>"I don't understand why people disagree with me"
You must be autistic if don't understand why
>>63522395
literally faggots spamming DUDE FARTING ALIENS LMAO, at least we can counter with DUDE BOGEYMEN LMAO now.
>>63522459
>literally faggots
>Implying not everyone on /who/ is a faggot
>>63522359
Sadly true. As fun as The Deadly Assassin is, it really killed the magic of the Timelords. Now Gallifrey is essentially just another alien planet, nothing very mystical or mysterious about it.
I saw this picture recently and it made me think that this is what Gallifrey should be. This sort of atmosphere. Could be great.
>>63521911
I thought the shades were really fucking obnoxious at first, but they grew on me.
>>63522591
Serious question: how could it be better? Short of making every Timelord a God there was no way and that would have been even worse.
>>63522761
YES!
Saved
>>63522647
It could be better if they kept the Timelords and gallifrey as mysterious. Showing essentially every facet of their civilisation, featuring high-up characters such as the president (even making the doctor become the president) turned it all into a bit of a dull farce. Having them being invaded by sontarans and daleks didn't help either.
The Timelords could have been kept as something above everything else. Something you don't really learn about and don't understand fully. Just watch the war games, or look at that image and imagine the Doctor being escorted past while a timelord walks into a room of light like that in the background with no explanation. Being shown hints of something bigger but never being apart of it. At the most, keep the Doctor and the audience at the lowest level of gallifrey society.
It's too late now though.
I want to do filthy, disgusting things with Jenna
I want Ashildr's toes in my mouth.
>>63521911
>>63522645
I'm gonna miss the shades so bad. I don't blame Clala for stealing them though.
>>63523210
She didn't
>>63523126
get in line senpai
>>63523210
The doctor had them at the diner, he used them as a wireless amp for his guitar
he hasn't lost the sonic sunglasses but he has a new sonic screwdriver. It's possible the sonic sunnies will show up occasionally to do something more visual related like holograms
>>63523245
>>63523376
he left the sunglasses on the table in the diner
they're gone
>>63523417
FUCK
>>63523376
>>63523249
He set them down on the counter when he used them to amp his guitar. When she dematerialized her diner she took the shades with her. He could always make another pair if he wanted but she basically stole those.
>>63523483
It wouldn't be the first time he got a new pair, they were broken in Girl who Died
>>63523537
Yeah but sadly the TARDIS crapped out a new sonic screwdriver that looks like a toy so say goodbye to based sunnies.
>>63523600
pic related will always be 12's iconic outfit to me
whoodie, sonic sunglasses and a guitar, and a real 'I don't give a fuck' attitude
>>63523661
I hope he still has does casual Fridays sometimes. I like the velvet Doctory coat but it would get boring if he always wore it.
>>63524035
Claradatbootydemtittiesvoratrelundar
Why is he so based /who/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMi8c8uglmI
>>63524088
Best Doctor
>>63524064
Just call her Fred
>>63523332
>>63522761
Are there any more of these?
>>63523661
I'm always gonna prefer his black on black business casual look from Listen, or his red lined jacket and white shirt.
>>63524088
>Naming the Doctors
>Forgets McGann
>>63524361
That's cuz he was talking about faces. McGann is an audio Doctor.
>>63524352
>Are there any more of these?
nope, I just made those two as I posted them
there is the KTM one from hype anon though if that counts
>>63524035
It makes me feel odd at how aroused that makes me. Fetishes are weird.
>>63524752
fish fingers are so plain and boring
chicken fingers are GOAT
Choose wisely
http://strawpoll.me/6234035
>>63524851
>All votes are for first option
What did you expect to happen?
>>63524851
Tough choice between 1 and 3, but I chose 3 because Brooker might make a good showrunner and I would get to see my love onscreen every week again.
>>63524851
>6 more years of moffat
not worth it, even if it means more capaldi
>>63524968
I don't even hate Moffat but 6 more years of him would change that.
/who/, how would you feel if the Doctor regenerated into an Asian?
>>63525015
will he look like an animu?
>>63525139
I'd hope not.
>>63524918
I voted the same, no guilt. Capaldi leaving after S11 would still make him the longest running NuWho Doctor. I'm not anti female Doctor, though not thrilled at the prospect either, but Brooker is someone who I think could handle it well, and would have a very different overall vision for the show than what's come before. I always thought Coleman was a bit Tennanty when she plays Clara playing Doctor but that could work.
>>63525015
Would depend entirely on the actor/actress. I can't stand this whole male/female/asian/black/white clusterfuck arguments.
There have been 12 (more, really) white male doctors. A lot of them were very good actors. I'd be fine with the next 12 being white males if they were also very good actors. I'd be fine with the next 12 all being Indian women if they were very good actors. It's bizarre people seriously reject a whole race/gender out of hand, when there could be a perfect performer in there.
>>63524904
Thought people might be more tired of Moffat
we hiatus /who/ now?
>>63524851
I chose 2.
Moffat will continue to be a hack and needs to fuck off. I hate Jenna and having her be a Doctor would be fanfictiony and shit, literally making Clara so important that the Doctor even regenerates into her.
Black female Doctor might be shit but it kills two birds with one stone and I actually like RTD era
>>63525277
im ok with moffat if capaldi sticks around
plus he could easily take a backseat role like JNT did in his last few years.
>>63525277
No, people around here just really love Capaldi and wanna avoid female Doctors
>ywn get a season with Capaldi as showrunner and Jenna as the Doctor
>>63525381
>I hate Jenna
>ywn we will literally NEVER see an alternate universe version of Heaven Sent directed by David Lynch
>>63525415
>ywn get a season with Peter and Jenna as dual showrunners with Moffat as the doctor
>>63525418
I don't know how anyone could hate Jenna. Not even talking waifushitfull homo here
So will the next companion be another 'most important person in the universe'?
>>63525637
yeah
>>63525272
I see the Doctor as a character not a position that anyone can fill. I cant blame people for preferences they have, I have a few myself.
>>63525744
Race and gender aren't just a "preference". You can't look at demographics consisting of millions of people with varied personalities and say "no, none of them could accurately portray the doctor." It's completely idiotic and baseless.
>>63525637
Too bad Capaldi said no to a male companion. I wanted to see the most important man in the universe. Besides the Doctor.
>>63525277
Capaldi is GOAT and like it or not moff is currently better than all known alternatives
>reality bomb arc
>stars destroyed as the signal expands
>reality bomb moves slower than light speed
>pandorica arc
>see all starts blowing up at once
>>63525744
...so do I. But if an arab woman could play the character better than whoever else in the auditions for 13, why not cast her? I'm not saying it's likely but I just don't get why people put race/gender/superficial stuff first, and the important stuff (whether they can play the character well) second.
>>63525822
yes, they are.
for example
James Bond will always have to be a man because being male is a key aspect of the character
Miss Marple should always be played by an old woman
King Arthur is most suitable for a white actor
- although race is more flexible than gender, which is why I don't mind a non-white Doctor myself
Now the doctor is much more flexible than the characters above. I'm not saying he cant change sex and gender I just understand why people feel that way.
>>63525947
>reality bomb
stopped reading there
>>63525947
Not sure what your point is.
For the latter for example the Doctor did point out that all the stars are exploding at every moment in time
>DOCTOR: Total event collapse! Every sun will supernova at every moment in history.
>>63526088
>davros seeking to destroy the universe at the atomic scale
>ayy lmaos locking the doctor in a box
>afraid of the question "Doctor Who?"
>>63525992
I can't really answer that, if I was in charge I would properly cast a woman as the 13th doctor to get it over with.
I Iike the 5th 6th 7th and 8th doctors myself but you'll find that there are people who just feel some are them just didn't 'feel' like the Doctor. A gender swap might do the same. men and women are just difference, even if its superficial it might alienate some people.
>>63526190
Literally anything can alienate people. Matt Smith's chin probably alienated some. I don't see how saying "the best actor for the part should get the part" is at all controversial.
A woman will probably be the next one regardless of whether she's best for the part, but hopefully she will be
So the next doctor is basically guaranteed to be a female at this point right?
There's way too much demand for it, moff himself strongly supports it and it's the focus of just about every article and interview about a new doctor
>>63526235
Yup. Hayley Atwell is a fairly likely candidate as she's expressed explicit interest in the role, wouldn't cost TOO much (though a fair bit), and already has her own fanbase.
>>63526262
The thing is, they don't usually choose a known actor or someone who has expressed interest in the role. Capaldi is the most "famous" person they've ever chosen and even he was unknown outside the UK.
>>63526262
She's really not a likely candidate at all. She answered a question on twitter asking if she'd 'want to be on Doctor Who' with 'I want to BE Doctor Who' and it made the rounds on social media. I don't think anybody really cares if it really happens, and I doubt she's really that interested.
>>63526279
Very true, but for a big event like casting the first woman in the role, they'd want to have it as "safe" as possible, meaning an actress already well-liked would help.
I wouldn't be surprised if they went with a much lesser-known British actress though, maybe someone from Downton Abbey or something. Or Ruth Wilson even.
>>63526067
We're talking about the Doctor, not those characters. The Doctor's gender and race aren't key aspects of the character. The Doctor can be portrayed by anybody.
Why did jenna ditch the 'jenna-louise coleman' after S7?
>>63526226
you could hire a great actress to play James Bond but it wouldn't be James Bond because being male is key to that character.
I know the doctor is different, is being male key to that character?
He has quite a lot of male traits but would they be lost if the doctor switched gender?
I cant answer that.
That's something the fanbase is split on.
>>63526376
>In between her first two series as Clara, Coleman, who had been billed throughout her career as Jenna-Louise Coleman, suddenly lost the Louise bit – prompting one newspaper to report on "the mystery of the missing Louise". "Peter now has a nickname for me: 'the artist formerly known as JLC'," she says. "The boring truth is that people have never really called me Jenna-Louise and I just found it very strange because I started to do more interviews and go places where people I didn't know kept calling me Jenna-Louise. It sounded odd to me."
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/features/doctor-who-star-jenna-coleman-peter-capaldi-is-almost-the-opposite-of-matt-smith-9667538.html
>>63526067
You're right that there are characters who are inherently typecast into a gender/age/race (some would debate that bond isn't one of them though)
The doctor's not one of them though. In fact part of his character is that his personality changes, and there's nothing about him that's limited to male only.
If they get the right actress and aren't blindly pushing a girl power agenda, I'd have nothing wrong with a female doctor. Gomez is doing great as Missy, I'm sure someone could do the same as the doctor
>>63526416
True but irrelevant - literally none of the Doctor's character is inherent to being a male. I can't think of a single thing.
For Series 10, I want a full squad rather than a single companion
>>63526370
>The Doctor's gender and race aren't key aspects of the character
for some people they are
the race thing, I don't mind its just a pigment change really.
as the for the gender, I'm not sure men and women are different. a gender swap might change the character too much from what we know as the Doctor.
>>63526368
>yfw the next Doctor is Rose Leslie
I'm completely in support of a female Doctor but I really hope it doesn't happen next. I want a female showrunner before a female Doctor. Wasn't this the first year that had more than one woman write for the show? I know it was at least the first time in years that any woman has. I don't trust a bunch of men to handle this, especially not Moffat. I cannot think of something worse than a female Doctor written by Moffat.
The result would be shit. She'd be overly sexual, noticeably not as clever/strong/whatever, but with a buttload of jokes/references to her gender like "what you thought I couldnt reverse the polarity because im a gIRL??"
And then people would look at that as "proof" that a female doctor doesnt work.
>>63526416
>I know the doctor is different, is being male key to that character?
No. The answer is very easily no. the fact that youre treating it as some deep question is ridiculous
>>63526499
as long as they were nothing like pic related I'd be down
>>63526503
>for some people they are
Those people are wrong. It's not about opinion here. There is genuinely nothing about the Doctor's character that is dependent on being white or male.
Could Moffat knock two birds with one stone by making the Doctor a woman sex wise, but still identify as male gender wise?
>>63526499
A whole TARDIS gang is always better than just one companion. Even just a third tagging along tends to be more fun.
I really wish Jack had gotten more episodes with Rose and Nine. They had a great chemistry for the short time they were all together, and the three of them getting along like old friends, joking about all their adventures we didn't get to see in the opening of Boom Town really salts the wound.
They are just teasing about a female doctor, David Thewlis will be 13
>>63526457
I don't like Missy
>>63526510
>No. The answer is very easily no. the fact that youre treating it as some deep question is ridiculous
I support a female Doctor, but that question is fundamental if you want to do things properly, rather than jus have him regenerate and go "I'm a grill now lol". You need to work out how important the male aspect has been so far, if you want to do a female Doctor well.
>>63526554
he is autistic to be fair
What's /who/ with you?
>>63526716
Only 3 days to War
I remember just before Capaldi was announced I used to post this picture here a lot because I thought it was going to be this guy.
>>63526660
No you don't. You just cast a female actor and then write the Doctor the same as always. That's how you do a female Doctor well. Drawing attention to it and making a big show of it is how to fuck it up.
>>63526744
I think Chris O'Dowd did some trolling about being the new Doctor on twitter too
>>63526505
They wouldn't go there; too young and not a good enough actress. If they did then yeah, mistake. Shame Carice isn't British; I think she'd be good at it.
>>63526510
I get your broad point, but Moff writes Missy really damn well. I think if he writes f13, he'd make her gender an "afterthought", barely refer to it, etc. Which would be the right choice IMO, at least while it's him writing.
>>63526554
Yup
>>63526581
So damn true
>>63526660
I can almost guarantee you that the gender would not be dealt with much. It would factor into the premiere, but I sincerely doubt the series arc would be "am I different now that I'm a woman". Not that that's a bad idea, just that Moff/the mostly male writing team will not want to write it (not because they think the idea is silly, because they'd be wary of messing it up).
>>63526740
Cautious hype. Can Briggs deliver a good story here people?
>>63526744
Beforehand I was pulling for Paterson Joseph or Alexander Siddig
>>63526824
Absolutely right
>>63526824
Ms Sarkeesian would say that would make her a 'ms male' character which is sexist
>>63526875
>Moff writes Missy really damn well.
Not that anon but top kek.
>>63526923
Fair enough if you disagree. I really enjoy the writing for her myself.
>>63526875
>but Moff writes Missy really damn well
A lot better than I expected from him but there's still problems. The big one staring us in the face is that she's still referred to as "Missy" and not the Master. I understood using that name to hide her identity, and for the reveal. But the fact that it's stuck is ridiculous. It creates an unnecessary divide between her and her other incarnations, and "Missy" is a much weaker name compared to "Master". It would be like if the female Doctor called herself "Nurse"
>>63526905
Shut up.
>>63526824
No, it isn't.
Remember the "Am I a good man?" arc that Capaldi had in his first season? That was good.
The Doctor turning into a female is the biggest possible change to the character that hasn't happened until now.
When it inevitably happens, I want to see what it means for the Doctor. I want to see her having to work out who she is from scratch. I want to see all the dramatic potential of this idea come to fruition.
If you turn the Doctor into a woman and don't do anything interesting with her, you might as well keep him a male.
>>63526958
All good points.
>>63526599
David Thewlis, Aidan Turner or if they choose a nonwhite actor, Adeel Akhtar.
>>63526987
This is so stupid. This is like the biggest way to fuck it all up. You idiot. You absolute nincompoop.
Realistically, what would be your reaction if he was cast?
>>63527053
baneposting
>>63527053
The Doctor is usually a lesser known actor, he'stoo big
Reminder that these Missy lines could all be spoken by River and no one would notice the difference
>Now, that was surprising. And I love surprises.
>You know I should shoot you in a jealous rage. Now, wouldn't that be sexy?
>There's always collateral damage with you and me. It's our Paris.
>Happy birthday. Oh! You didn't know, did you? It's lucky one of us remembers these things. Happy birthday (as Marilyn Monroe) Mister President.
>Conquer the universe, Mister President. Show a bad girl how it's done.
>She looks down and sees six red laser dots dancing on her bosom.) Oh, saucy.
>Doctor, listen to me. I know traps, traps are my flirting. This is a trap.
>But this is a space station, so the gravity should be artificial, all coppery-smelling round the edges, a tiny bit sexy.
>Did the Doctor tell you that? Because you should never believe a man about a vehicle.
>>63527053
Baneposting and /who/ would consume the board, together
Reminder that "Day Of The Doctor" was the last good episode.
Reminder that Morefat is killing this show.
>>63527053
A complete inability to see the Thirteenth as anything but a giant Queeras Folk
>a diner materialises in a jungle
>Clara and Ashildr open the door, not yet knowing how to operate the scanner screen, to see where they are
>as the door is pulled back an entire platoon of US soldiers drag them out through the door
>"Why the hell is there a diner in a jungle?"
>"It must be one of Charlie's encampments, open fire!"
>the soldiers open fire at the diner, even the windows don't shatter
>Clara frantically scrambles up from the floor she was pushed to
>"Wait no, we're English, listen to our accents, British, friendly!"
>the platoon sergeant aims at Clara, as she looks helpless
>"Hold your fire, men."
>a private steps forwards
>"She looks like VC to me, sir."
>"You could be right, private, how else did she get out here? Shouldn't you be in singapore or Hong Kong or where ever you limeys are meant to be?"
>Clara is petrified with fear, Ashildr steps forward
>"She's with me, SAS, we're here to detect Chinese nukes."
>her memory of 20th century earth has failed her spectacularly
>"Listen, sweetheart I don't know what shit you're tranna pull but consider yourself under detainment, you're to be treat as hostile until I say otherwise."
>"Wait,"
Clara blurts
>"Surely there must be some way we can prove we're not hostile, give us a chance.."
>"Darlin', you want out of this jungle you'd betterstart suckin'"
>https://youtu.be/TLV4_xaYynY plays as Clara and Ashildr proceed to suck every man there dry, twice
>>63526875
>>63526554
if the doctor did change gender you know they would act different from the previous ones. whether you think its key to the character, its been part of that character for 12/13 times now.
its not the same as changing hair colour.
>>63527047
>being this mad
>>63527053
Doctor, I'm CIA
>>63527128
Reminder that I pooped in your fez while screaming allons-y
>>63521645
>1645
The Devil Like a Bear get
>>63521863
>1863
Backtime get
>>63521873
>1873
The Silver Turk get
>>63521879
>1879
Tooth and Claw get
>>63521890
>1890
The Burning get
>>63521899
>1899
The Justice of Jalxar get
>>63521911
>1911
Pyramids of Mars get
>>63521990
>1990
Train-Flight get
>>63521993
>1993
Blood Heat get
>>63522014
>2014
Warlock get
>>63522044
>2044
The Duellists get
>>63522070
>2070
The Moonbase get
>>63522094
>2094
Growing Higher get
>>63522135
>2135
The Doctor Strikes Back get
>>63522147
>2147
Lucifer Rising get
>>63522221
>2221
Spoilsport get
>>63522487
>2487
Judgement of the Judoon get
>>63525000
>5000
The Invisible Enemy get
>>63527150
Every actor has been different from the previous ones. There is nothing fundamentally male about the character.
I want to lick her pussy.
>>63527103
And this is why I don't want Moffat anywhere near a female Doctor.
Clara and Me's Excellent Adventure when?
>>63527103
>>Did the Doctor tell you that? Because you should never believe a man about a vehicle.
Oh c'mon, I found this one funny.
>>63527149
>mfw
>>63527357
is it your favourite River line?
>>63527293
>mfw Karen shaved her head
>>63527395
Probabl... Hey, wait a minute!
>>63527446
lol trolled u
>>63527421
Alright lads, let me tell you about the time I showed my power level and spilled my spaghetti.
>going to uni
>sit next to girl
>she's not much to look at but her personality is the sweetest thing
>we get on really well
>invite her out for a meal
>ordeorder steak
>I don't even like steak I just wanted her to order something equally expensive so I can spend a lot of money non her
>specifically order it extremely well done
>I hate undercooked steak, it's just raw meat
>out comes meal
>she has some sort of pasta thing, looks delicious, wish I'd have had that
>waiter presents my steak
>it's fucking pink
>like an out of body experience my mouth says it but I don't want to
>"I did it again, I picked another stupid ape!"
>he looks fucking terrified
>date looks terrified
>a second passes that feels like a minute
>"would you like me to ask him to cook your steak longer?"
>"No, I just had something in my eye"
>I didn't have anything in my eye
>"that was really rude, anon"
>"I was just joking with him"
>eat my fucking raw flesh
>date hates me the entire rest of the evening
>tell her I'm going to apologise so she doesn't hate me
>trudge over to the desk
>ask to see waiter
>"which one?"
>the black one
>"the one with the goatee."
>"he left a few minutes ago."
>"oh, right, sorry."
>get date to taxi
>"I don't think we should see each other again."
>"I was joking"
>"you said"
>"no really it's a Doctor who quote!"
>"goodnight, anon"
>taxi speeds off
Every time someone posts another stupid ape I'm reminded of it, why is life so cruel?
>>63527738
>I don't even like steak I just wanted her to order something equally expensive so I can spend a lot of money non her
Why not just be yourself and get something you'd like? If she only liked someone you acted like, she would never stay with you anyway.
>"I did it again, I picked another stupid ape!"
What the fuck? How did you even "pick" him? I don't get how the quote entered your mind.
>"I was just joking with him"
Why lie? Date probably already screwed up at that point so why not at least tell the truth?
>eat my fucking raw flesh
Why? You hated it.
Anon... life wasn't cruel, you just kept making dumb decisions.
>>63527822
>Why not just be yourself and get something you'd like? If she only liked someone you acted like, she would never stay with you anyway.
Because I didn't want to order a soup or something and her think that I wasn't willing to pay for shit, so I ordered a massive fuck off steak to convince her I had money to spend.
>What the fuck? How did you even "pick" him? I don't get how the quote entered your mind.
It just sort of did, I was dissatisfied so I said I'd picked a stupid ape, I didn't even think about his race when I said it.
>Why lie? Date probably already screwed up at that point so why not at least tell the truth?
I really liked this girl and wanted it to go serious, that's what the point of the date was, so when I fucked up I tried to salvage the unsalvageable.
>>63527922
>I really liked this girl and wanted it to go serious, that's what the point of the date was, so when I fucked up I tried to salvage the unsalvageable.
Honesty = potentially salvaging. More lying and social awkwardness = ruining even more. I'm not blaming you or anything, I've been in awkward social situations and fucked them up horribly myself at times ofc, just pointing out that going further down the rabbit hole of lies absolutely never helps.
>It just sort of did, I was dissatisfied so I said I'd picked a stupid ape, I didn't even think about his race when I said it.
Right. Sometimes your head does get full of quotes. Sorry you were stressed on what could have been a nice date anon.
>Because I didn't want to order a soup or something and her think that I wasn't willing to pay for shit, so I ordered a massive fuck off steak to convince her I had money to spend.
But why not order something expensive, but you actually liked? A pasta? Naked posturing like that rarely works if you're the type to actively worry about it btw. It's extremely trite advice but "be yourself" really is the key to finding fitting partners
>>63527822
>>63527922
I think we're missing something here
>order a steak well done
>it comes out pink
Proper thing would have been to just tell the waiter it wasn't cooked right and get a new one
And even then
>ordering well done at all
Shut up virgins
>>63527982
>
Honesty = potentially salvaging. More lying and social awkwardness = ruining even more. I'm not blaming you or anything, I've been in awkward social situations and fucked them up horribly myself at times ofc, just pointing out that going further down the rabbit hole of lies absolutely never helps.
Yeah, I suppose, I just didn't want to say "I'm not having much but you eat as much as you can, my treat", I felt she'd be more comfortable if I had a big expensive meal too so she wouldn't think her doing the same was wrong.
>But why not order something expensive, but you actually liked? A pasta? Naked posturing like that rarely works if you're the type to actively worry about it btw. It's extremely trite advice but "be yourself" really is the key to finding fitting partners
I wasn't trying to say "look at how fat my wallet is" my point was that I wanted her to feel comfortable ordering a big meal, I mean in hindsight it was retarded as fuck but there was some method to the madness.
>>63527738
kek, looks like you were the real stupid ape.
>>63528006
Yeah, I honestly don't get what awkwardanon's issue was...their job is to get you the food you want. Just ask politely for them to fix it/get you a new one.
Better yet, don't order a food you don't love from the get go, and order what you'd actually like.
>>63528006
>Proper thing would have been to just tell the waiter it wasn't cooked right and get a new one
Obviously, but I didn't want to say "No, no, this is wrong, take it back." I wanted to make a joke about it but immediately after the fact I realised what was a funny reference to me was arseholery to everyone else.
>>63528045
I get what you mean anon, it's typical nervous-so-dangerously-overthink-social-situation thinking that mucks stuff up. We've all been there. Hope you're with a nice girl now you can order your favourite pasta with.
/who/ - autistic life stories
>>63528076
>"No, no, this is wrong, take it back."
Anon, waiters aren't offended by this, it's literally their job. They do it all the time. They're servers, SERVE-ing you. You're not making a fuss, you're just a customer getting what you're paying for. If you're acting like a prick ("oi mate, this shit is fucked, can't you cunts even cook?") then yeah you're in the wrong, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with asking them to correct THEIR mistake.
>>63528079
Well I'm posting on 4chan at 4am, how do you think my life's going, senpai?
>>63528105
Yeah, I realise this now, 2 years after the fact, I fucked up royally at the time though.
Susan when?
Romana when?
>>63528240
Both already happened. Check out Unearthly Child for the former and The Ribos Operation for the latter.
>>63528288
might want get caught up to date familia
>>63521873
>slows down before sonic is even visible
Bravo BBC
>>63528534
new sonic hadn't been designed or built at the time of filming
edited in later
>>63528534
do you mean how the footage stutters?
That's just an issue with the webm, the actual episode doesn't do that
>craig ferguson talking about losing his virginity to jenna
i-impure!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjZwei-V2RE
The Husbandos of River Song looks____fun_____
>>63528749
Fuck off Moffat.
Though it is good to see the kuck on the other foot. Fucking Amy, that whore.
>>63528749
Reminder that McGann is in it
What is the best place to buy Doctor Who action figures in the US (online or retail)?
>>63527175
Doctor, I'm Faction Paradox
Reminder that audios
https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-war-doctor-1-only-the-monstrous-1380?range=113
>>63528749
I think that you're acorrect anon
Reminder that McGann
https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doom-coalition-2-1222
>>63528749
I hope it's not too disconnected from series 9 - I don't want a fucking Series 3 style mopey reflection on Clara the whole episode, but I'd like some mention of the events of Series 9 from 12 to River and so on. Just three lines scattered throughout the episode would be plenty. 1 about why he's grumpy at the start of the ep, 1 where he opens up to River, 1 at the end where he moves on. I really dislike RTD and Moff's ocassionaly tendency to abruptly break from continuity
>>63528720
Point it out, because I watched the most boring 10 minutes of my life and no mention of those two banging each other.
>>63529054
The bit about how ferguson had a 'very important moment of his young life' near blackpool
I didn't mean they slept with each other, poor wording, just talking about losing virginity
>>63529023
The trailers make it sound like 12's having some fun and moving on
>>63529092
C_uck off
>>63529464
C u c k o f f
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So Daleks have an empire, stable and accurate time travel, Davros, and aren't against hybridization anymore but don't have all Dalek advancement, knowledge and technology from the Time War.
Time Lords had enough resources after getting free of that pocket universe thing that they apparently took back Arcadia I'd have to guess and neutralized Dalek force on Gallifrey, but have no more bad ass Omega Arsenal weapons, and are traitorous pussies. But at least still have knowledge of whatever they might've developed during the War.
If they fight anytime soon, Daleks are raping the Time Lords
When you buy a "bundle" from Big Finish, are you charged the whole payment at once, or is it more like a subscription where you're charged the amount of each individual audio in the bundle when it's released?
Looking at ordering the War Doctor bundle and just wondering if I'd be down $100 now, or just $20 in 2 days, another $20 next month, etc
>>63530295
I don't know.
>>63530554
Then why reply?
>>63528627
>do you mean how the footage stutters?
yes I did. thanks for clarifying.
>>63530295
All in one go.
When you get to checkout, it will say $100
>>63530675
Cheers, thx for replying
>>63528959
Will it Hurt?
The Time Lord Formerly Known As The Doctor
>>63530606
Just answering the kind person's questions to the best of my ability.
>>63532025
>>63531994
>>63531920
>Jacobi Master not in canon appearance.
>>63531946
this one got it right
> The following bundle items will be sent when they become available:
Why is BF doing this?
Reminder that the "get off my planet" scene only works with Dalton playing Rassilon and that without him it fell flat and didn't really hold any meaning.
>>63532376
it holds the exact same meaning you fucking autist
>>63532455
In-universe it does, obviously. But that doesn't instantly convert to the real world. Dalton had stature when he was Rassilon (and also in general, because he was Bond). We saw his Rassilon commanding respect, being intimidating, whatever. If we then saw the same man that had all that respect suddenly being ignored by the others, it would have been powerful. But it was a new actor, an old feeble looking guy who we had no prior history with. Having him be introduced and then 10 minutes later have people basically say "fuck you" to him means nothing.
I don't really understand why I need to explain the difference here. It should be obvious
Why Moffat's plots' end never seems to much the setup? Is it this hard to not randomly swap obstacles mid-way?
His shrunken gauntlet looked comical. It looks like it's for fisting. I hope we don't see any more of him.
>>63532843
When they extracted Clala in Hell Bent I thought it was just going to be for a single scene. Another goodbye. And then it took over the entire plot and became the only focus.
I'm just an idiot in a box. Watch me run, dude.
>le wacky British man
>>63532892
Same
I really thought they just took her out for a while so the Doctor could ask her some things and say goodbye again.
Then she could die with pride as she should have instead of have run off with Ashitldir.
Why are people okay with Clara's ending? She already had the perfect one, answering for her recklessness.
>>63532984
We had embraced Moffucking as one true religious practice.
>>63532571
You are autistic because you are letting real world get in the way of in-universe when analysing the plot
You are not making a valid complaint, you are making an autistic complaint
>>63533109
Diminishing impact due to casting is a valid complaint.
>>63533109
>You are autistic because you are letting real world get in the way of in-universe when analysing the plot
No I'm not. I fully understand that in-universe it's the same thing, it's the same character no matter who the actor is. But I'm not talking about in-universe. I'm talking about the fictional TV show Doctor Who and why something didn't work as well as it could have.
Relax.
Capaldi episode with Craig Ferguson when?
>>63526088
doctor who is a fantasy show in which 95% of plot devices and technobabble make zero scientific sense . the reality bomb isn't one of them - google vacuum metastability event. This year there was a paper that suggested one could be triggered by an artificial micro black hole and it would basically work just like what Davros wanted, by the creation of an unstoppable bubble of true vaccum, expanding at the speed of light and destroying all of reality on sub-atomic level in the process.
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/could-black-holes-destroy-the-universe-de8a3135856f#.udufwlqmm
this is highly controversial and wouldn't work like in the show, but for a kid's show about an ancient ayy lmao travelling through the universe in a police box it's a surprisingly plausible idea.
>>63532984
I think it helps if you are invested in the characters, beyond 12 just being the latest Doctor, or seeing Clara as just the latest sidekick. I am so I was looking for a culmination to the story of those two characters & that's what I got with her actual departure. So I didn't think "answering for her recklessness" was a perfect ending. Reducing a character to a cautionary tale centering on single trait of theirs that wasn't even their most prominent one is unsatisfying. Companions that actually enjoy travelling & want to do all the dangerous stuff the Doctor does is something I want to see anyway so I wouldn't want that framed as entirely negative. The only point her FtR death seemed to be labouring to make is that one day, unless you have extra lives like the Doctor, the dangers will catch up to you. But that's an extremely obvious lesson & doesn't require a death to illustrate. Every time a companion leaves we're reminded of that whether they die or not.
I preferred a story where the Doctor was driven off the rails by his loss, hinted at all series. He didn't immortalize a viking girl because it was the 'right' thing to do. The point the Doctor's at in his life now, his 12th, has a raw nerve & I found whittling that down more interesting to explore. Seeing his initial cold anger at her death turn into extreme persistence to the point of insanity in the confession dial simply to hold onto a bargaining chip, how easily his Doctor mask could slip when he let it, having his convictions tested with highly personal stakes. It makes the Doctor's code much more meaningful after being reminded of the resolve it requires to uphold & how falling short of his code is just a step away at any time. All of his actions lead to him paying the tragic price of forgetting the same friend he went so far for. But while he is punished for going Time Lord Victorious, he also gets his reward; he gets to give Clara more time. He earned that for billions of years of torture.
>>63532984
I feel like Moffat never commit and cuts loose ends because he loves Big Finish.
And considering how special Clara is to him, compared even to Amy, he just can't let go.
It's a pathology in his writing.
>>63534825
Counterpoint: Clara was portrayed as a smug cunt who was awful to the Doctor and was always right.
>>63522647
Film the scenes on gallifrey in a surreal fashion so as it doesn't make sense to the viewer (though makes sense to the doctor and other time lords)
Or only have them show up mysteriously and disappear (like in Genesis when the doctor was upset they stopped his matter transportation and they acted like it was no big deal)
Or just have another time lord show up that isn't a complete incompetent
Martha > Donna > Amy > Clara >>>> Rose
>>63535535
You're welcome to that interpretation but I think it's an extreme and unfounded one and isn't a counterpoint to the post.
>>63535655
Counterpoint: Fuck Off
Clara was literally the unfunniest companion in all of New Who. Add that to fucking Danny "I'm So Down To Earth I'm Against Fun" Pink and Ashildr "Depression Because I'm Immortal" Me, and Peter has had the three shittiest and unfunniest characters in pretty much the entire 52 years of the show.
BRAVO MOFFAT
>>63535740
Le frogposter
>>63535625
>Martha
Boooring.
>>63535778
>>63535740
>>63535690
>>63535655
>samefagging to keep /who/ alive
Let it go, Anon.
>>63535773
If Series 10 doesn't have funny episodes or even better a new companion like Donna, I'm fucking dropping it. A funny character that always take things in a funny way and through character development realises things are dangerous etc. is way fucking better than "I want to die because my boyfriend I've known for 6 months died".
>>63535036
It's funny, because the way Clara is brought back in Hell Bent reminds me a lot of something the Expanded Universe might do: it didn't change what happened in the previous episode, but it allowed for a virtually infinite number of adventures between the moment she says goodbye to the Doctor and the moment she actually dies.
It feels a lot like the kind of continuity trick that BBC Books or Big Finish might use, rather than something that was planned as part of the show. It's an example of the expanded universe influencing the TV show, in my opinion. I'm not sure how much I like it, but it's definitely interesting.
Question: will Moffat ever be a good writer again?
Series 10 will be produced by BBC Studios, which is why filming is delayed to May.
It will have a way bigger budget and that's why they can have Peter Jackson, who, although is getting paid with a golden Dalek, needs more than filming in Cardiff.
Expect Series 10 to be seriously good.
>>63535871
>I want to die because my boyfriend I've known for 6 months died
That's not at all what clara was saying
>>63535968
Yes it was. Go watch Face the Raven again. She never was able to go past his death.
>>63535778
>when the slitheen so supreme you let out a scream
>>63535964
Really? Explains quite a lot.
>>63535964
>Implying Doctor Who has even been good.
>>63535915
No
>>63535968
Yes it was
>>63536008
>If danny pink could do it then so could I
>what?
>Die like I mean it
She didn't want to die because of danny pink. She was accepting her death and wanted to die with some dignity like danny did. That's completely different to what you're saying.
>>63535778
She briefly wonders if that was why she kept pushing herself, but that was her survivor's guilt talking. Also if that had been all it was it doesn't track with the almost formal way she invokes Danny Pink by his full name and only in the context of being brave when faced with death, or telling that guy who list someone in Before the Flood that it's possible to keep going because there's a whole life out there, or the rest of her behaviour in Series 9, or even parts before Danny's death in Series 8 where she was just as out for the thrill of the adventures despite knowing how dangerous they were.
Why was Clara such a terrible companion?
Would season 9 have been good is she had left last christmas?
>>63536333
series 9 WAS good and clara is easily one of the best companions of nuwho, stop memeing
>>63536333
Because she's a Mary Sue.
>>63536008
the writer of the episode had this to say in the current DWM
>Sarah describes Clara’s death as, “fundamentally a horrible accident and misunderstanding. Ashildr was hugely irresponsible in making the deal with the Time Lords but she didn’t mean to kill Clara.” Clara’s fate is foreshadowed by the story’s opening scene, in which the Doctor and Clara bound into the TARDIS, covered in alien pollen and jazzed-up after another dice with death. Sarah nods: “And I think it’s foreshadowed right through the season. Even in Under the Lake, she’s like, ‘Come on, let’s go where the explosions are!; She’s not doing that because she has a death wish: she’s doing it because it’s enormous fun, because she’s high on adrenalin, because she loves running into trouble with her best friend. And she thinks they can carry on doing that forever. I really hope none of it comes across like she doesn’t want to live any more, because for me it’s the exact opposite. She’s living too hard and not thinking about the fact she’s vulnerable. That’s why those lines are so important, when she asks the Doctor why he gets to be reckless- she wants to be reckless too! I really didn’t want it to be that Clara had failed at being the Doctor. She did really well at being the Doctor! It’s just humans are much more breakable than Time Lords.
- Sarah Dollard
>>63536333
Imagine for a moment Clara leaves in Last Christmas, and Missy is the Doctor's companion for S9.
That would have been a GOAT series.
>>63536423
less Missy is more
if she turned up every story she'd be boring
>>63536362
>series 9 WAS good
>unfunny
>all that self-plagiarism
>good
>>63536362
>series 9 WAS good and clara is easily one of the best companions of nuwho
Top fucking kek m8
>>63536467
>>unfunny
What kind of fucking awful sense of humor do you have?
>>63536362
>One of the worst series ever
>good
>>63536525
>one of the best series ever
>bad
Series 9 was so shit I stopped watching at the Maisie episode. Is there anything worth going back for?
>>63536525
>One of the worst series ever
It was better than S2, S3, S6, and S7 at the very least
>>63536362
gr8 b8 m8
>>63536558
No really, maybe Heaven Sent taken in isolation.
Series 9 had a mostly average baseline of quality throughout, it didn't swing as wildly between episodes as often happens. I guess that was a result of all the 2 parters. I thought it was one of NuWho's better series overall, but it only had one real episode high in Heaven Sent. The rest of it's highs came in moments here and there instead of entire episodes, but there were no extreme lows for me either.
>>63535964
Is this legitimately plausible folks?
>>63536716
This
It was a consistently good series. Only one episode was truly shit tier, and likewise only one episode is really considered GOAT tier. But the quality episode by episode was higher than most other serieses
Overall it sits somewhere in the top half of series rankings, there have definitely been far worse serieses
>>63536840
>only one episode is really considered GOAT tier
?
>>63536840
>It was a consistently bad series
ftfy
>>63536933
he means heaven sent
>>63536840
>the quality episode by episode was higher than most other serieses
This is trash.
>>63537005
shit meme tbqf
>>63537092
>calling things a meme meme
nice meme. s9 was trash.
If you don't think S9 was shit, you're nothing but a fanboy apologist.
>>63536840PIGSHIT
>>63537084
He's not wrong though. It had a higher consistent average than series 2, 3, 6 or 7. I'd actually want to rewatch most of series 9. The other series I mentioned I'd just pick and choose from.
Let's list obscure 40k references to doctor who
Dan Abnett - the best thing on Gudrun crest is actually the beast of peladon
The radical inquisitor at the meeting with the warrior monk style clothing is a match for the time lords with their bowl cuts in war games
Eldrad ultharan- blue crystalline alien - Eldrad from Davison era
NeCron tomb worlds - cyberman tomb worlds including cyber mats
>>63537237
Your opinion's trash
https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/comments/3we0z2/i_question_your_love_of_doctor_who_and_im_calling/
This is fucking hilarious. I've never seen a bigger, stupider fanboy.
Is it bait and one of you wrote it?
>>63537290
/tg/ plz go
>it was shit!!
>it was good!!
>no it was shit!!!!
>no it was good!!!!
>into le trash!
>this is b8!
>pigshit!
>meme!
/who/ is dead
This is not a ranking of quality, but a statement of how much I enjoyed all the NewWho series'.
1>8>9>4>5>3>2>6>7
>>63537371
>How can you bash the show that I, and many other Whovians, hold so dear? Why would you complain so much about a show if you enjoy it ? How could you? Why would you even watch it? Moffat and RTD are probably the best things to ever happen to Doctor Who. They brought it back. We owe them our support. We should all unite and support everything
wat
>>63537290
>Eldrad ultharan- blue crystalline alien - Eldrad from Davison era
I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about, but Eldrad is from The Hand of Fear, which is a Tom Baker story.
>>63537371
>I had many drunken discussions with Trekkies (Trekkers? Whatever is PC these days) about why Doctor Who was superior and why it would succeed with new special effects and a larger budget, much like Star Trek TNG did, but with more timey-wimey. (Who doesn't love time travel???)
>In 2005, it finally came back. My prayers had finally been answered, in every single possible way. "Nice to meet you Rose, I'm The Doctor. RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!"....just brilliant!
>I grow tired of many of the Nuvians.
>He was taken away from me for 16 years (with the exception of the movie, which one can only watch so many times).
>It is hard to tolerate the Moff-hate (see what I did there?)
>How can you bash the show that I, and many other Whovians, hold so dear?
>Why would you complain so much about a show if you enjoy it ?
>How could you?
>Why would you even watch it?
>Moffat and RTD are probably the best things to ever happen to Doctor Who.
>They brought it back.
>We owe them our support.
>We should all unite and support everything
>>63537371
that has to be a troll
right?
>>63537442
mine would probably go
1=5=8>9>3>4>7>2>6
>>63537442
>We should all unite and support everything
kek
>>63537538
7, 2, and 6 always seem to be the agreed upon worst 3 series'. 3 had a shitty finale and mid two-parter, but some absolute crackers redeem it (Blink, Human Nature, etc.)
>>63537371
He's way too sappy but he makes a somewhat valid point - people have become incredibly cynical towards doctor who. They blame it on moffat but I honestly doubt a change of showrunner would change their minds
>>63537575
Series 3 had 42 and The Lanarkshire Experiment. It also had pig slaves, Human Dalek and half Dalek, half Human and half Time Lord. It also had comedy witches and rhinos from space. It also had degenerated heads in flying killing robots and the Master had a wife.
It was fucking shit. Series 6 and 7 shit on it.
>>63537671
42 was a comfy episode
>>63537597
I really disagree. I think "we should just suck Moff's cock forever because he makes Doctor Who" is ridicolous. Moff is my favourite writer of all 50+ years of Doctor Who, but he's just a fucking guy and he makes mistakes. There's literally nothing wrong with critiquing some of his writing. We don't "deserve" Doctor Who, it's just a bloody TV show we like.
Series 1: 6/10
Series 2: 3/10
Series 3: 4/10
Series 4: 7/10
Series 5: 9/10
Series 6: 6/10
Series 7: 7/10
Series 8: 6/10
Series 9: 5/10
>>63537723
>Series 6: 6/10
>Series 7: 7/10
I'm literally fucking howling with laughter at how shitty your opinions are
>>63537689
>I think "we should just suck Moff's cock forever because he makes Doctor Who" is ridicolous
I'm not suggesting that.
What I am saying is that to say that doctor who is now shit with nothing enjoyable in it to be found is equally ridiculous. There is a difference between critiquing and blindly criticising, and most people seem to be doing the latter these days
>>63537767
Who cares?
Question /who/, in Hell Bent the doctor plays Clara theme but at the end he also plays something else but I can't recognize it.
What is it?
>>63537575
the bad taste in my mouth left by a lot of the final S3 episode had me thinking I'd disliked it, but after watching again recently I found most of it was pretty good (but the Dalek 2 parter is still a struggle to sit through), and Tennant really establishes his Doctor in this series where he was a bit weak in his first, and like you said it has some truly great episodes.
>>63537671
You say this like these are all bad things..
>>63537812
I thought he was just noodling out her theme during all the diner scenes. When does he play something else?
>>63537770
Mate...the guy's post literally says
"We should all unite and support everything about Doctor Who"
He's not gently critiquing endless negativity. He's stating that nobody should ever criticise any aspect of the show.
>>63537671
>implying there's anything wrong with the Judoon
>implying The Shakespeare Code, The Lazarus Experiment and 42 weren't mediocre, but far from shit
>implying Gridoock, Human Nature, The Family of Blood, Blink and Utopia didn't redeem the season anyway
I agree that the Dalek two-parter was shit, but I'd still take that one over the Let's Kill Hitler or Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS.
>>63537917
When Clala says that some memories might become songs right before she enters her TARDIS
Can't find anything on youtube without a fuckload of "reaction videos" to post it here.
>>63537980
>being this biased
>>63537812
what he's playing at the end is part the clara theme
>>63537926
I'm not supporting his point, I'm making a different point that has some similarities to his but is much less binary about the issue (that's why I said 'somewhat' valid)
>>63538003
Cool cool, I get you and agree. I find endless negativity and endless fanboyism equally annoying and detrimental to the show.
>>63537995
What? Sounds to me like it's more biased to focus on single elements like the Judoon or the Master's wife rather than the actual plot of the episodes.
>>63537991
samefag here. endure the fat fuck here but it's the first result for Hell Bent ending
It's on 13:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a05QNEO9y0c
I'll get the new thread
Soon
>How you want your series 10 senpai?
>Just delay it to May so we can move the production side over to BBC Studios, meaning a much larger budget, partially to accommodate the Peter Jackson episode which will be extensively promoted
>Say no more, say no more
>>63538090
Ooh, nice.
>>63537980
>implying The Shakespeare Code, The Lazarus Experiment and 42 weren't mediocre, but far from shit
If those are mediocre then every episode in Series 6 and 7 are GOAT. Every single one.
>>63538072
>>63538000
>>63537991
>>63537917
>>63537812
According to this
http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/doctor-who/251115/doctor-who-season-9-finale-hell-bent-viewing-notes
and this
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/dec/05/doctor-who-series-35-episode-12-hell-bent
It's the "Bad Wolf" leitmotif
>>63537991
Oh that still sounds like the Clara song to me. This part at the end what you meant?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HQBWNiQuYj0
>>63538157
No, they aren't.
Explain me what was so shit about those episodes.
The Shakespeare Code is the usual Roberts comedy/celebrity historical, not my kind of thing, but not particularly boring either.
The Lazarus Experiment's plot is a big old cliché, but it's entertaining enough.
42 is also very unimaginative, but also not boring.
>>63538201
No the Bad Wolf leitmotif they're talking about played earlier in the Gallifrey dry lands scenes
