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Welp, that didn't last long edition.
Next time don't make the header NSFW you morons.
Although I like Karen's ass as much as the next guy.
What the fuck is this shit I'm hearing about Gatiss making a sequel to this episode
>>62734663
Mods are faggots. Waaaaaa a girls ass on a Taiwanese shitposting thread.
>>62734677
There is no way it's happening now. No one liked the first part.
>>62734677
Source? Although it makes sense given how it ended. It's not like show can have the human race be destroyed by sand monsters in the 38th century.
>>62734705
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-11-14/mark-gatiss-has-a-sequel-planned-to-doctor-whos-sleep-no-more
Was it ever explained why at some point we were looking through Clara's eye despite it saying we were only looking through camera on the peoples head or on the ship? Clara didn't have a camera.
Does anyone else find it weird to think about the fact that people probably will know about Greek mythology 1700 years from now? I mean, it's endured this long.
>>62734756
there were no cameras
>>62734756
I see you are trying to make sense of tonights episode.
I wish you luck, kind Anon.
>>62734756
Were you paying attention at all?
>>62734756
eye boogers
>>62734758
I thought it was a nice touch that the future people didn't recognize Shakespeare quotes
Link to last time
>>62728884
>>62728884
>>62728884
so was that guy just trolling about finding the image?
>>62734811
No i found it using his hint.
>>62734756
Morpheus implants an electrical signal in your brain that makes the sleep boogers in your eye come to life. The boogers grow a camera and a wireless signal. Thus, anyone who has used Morpheus is a walking webcam.
I think.
>>62734823
how?
>>62734831
for Episodes 11 and 12
>>62734794
I didn't immediately recognize it either desu and I've seen Macbeth.
>>62734823
Believing this tard. Nothing leaked.
Are they setting up that needlessly cranky streetwise kid to be the Doctor's new companion or Clara's new love interest?
>>62734884
something did leak though.
https://twitter.com/themindrobber/status/665468605325320192
its possible it was removed though.
Reminder that it only got pruned due to its glory.
>>62734742
wow
>>62734906
>no ass
>almost no tits
>glory
Ireland pls fuck off. You might as well wanna bone a prepubescent girl
>>62734831
Has Twelve influenced what you wear
I'm wearing checkered pants and hoodies under coats nowit's actually pretty comfy
>>62734925
I have wanted to fuck her brains out for years. No amount of hate is going to change that.
So what is the Ood doing with that Cyberman in the new trailer?
>>62734961
i've really wanted his jacket for awhle now.
>>62734925
and I would still choose Karen before I would Jenna
>>62734969
que
>>62735009
lower maintanance decision, most likely.
>>62735009
I'd choose Martha before I chose Karen or Jenna
I want Moffat and his writing team replaced now. The Doctor deserves so much more than this. So much more!
>>62734961
I was wearing a hoodie under an overcoat before 12 started doing it tbqh
wish I had a thumbhole sweater like 12 tho
>>62735055
gattis has been on the show for 10 years
he aint going anywhere m8
we just have to deal with his shitness
>>62735055
Mathieson, Treganna and Whithouse stay
We'll wait for Dollard
>>62734663
BRING BACK 10/ROSE
BRING BACK RTD
>>62735084
One of these things is not like the others
>>62735098
Mathieson is always based
Treganna wasn't that bad to be honest
Whithouse was based this year
>>62734825
The part that bugged me was the fact the footage were through the eyes, but not actually following the eyes. When we saw that one chinese guys reflection he was looking left and right, but the camera stayed the same. It's like the camera was directly in front of the eyes. I know they said it was just the dust in the air and stuff, which is where the cctv-style "cameras" came from. If literally any point could be a camera then why use people's heads in the first place?
Anyway just finished it, liked it up till the ending. Fucking Gaypiss. More like pissed away a good story.
Eye boogers are gonna getcha and...are you buying any of this?
>>62735094
yes
the show was only good in series 2
>>62735009
Karen>Jenna>Freema>Billie>Catherine
But 1-4 is a pretty close race all around
>>62735077
The thing is that RTD got rid of Gatiss after 2 episodes. But Moffat and him are BFF so he's staying around
.>>62735084
I'd keep Harness around and boot Whithouse, but yeah
I noticed that Capaldi's wearing the hoodie navy coat combo in the next time trailer but I'm not sure if it's a trick of the light or what but he appears to be wearing a black t-shirt with some sort of blue graphic on it
or it might just be the holey jumper again
anyway I guess this means we're getting some sort of triumphant scene where he shows off the new coator it could just appear and no one will question it like half of the fashion choices 12 makes
>>62735127
you came to the wrong place for this
>>62735122
Why would the dust in the air be CCTV cameras? I thought it was just the eye boogers.
>>62735196
*in the beginning of the next time trailer
leak when
>>62735166
>The thing is that RTD got rid of Gatiss after 2 episodes. But Moffat and him are BFF so he's staying around
What? Gatiss has written an episode every series except series 4.
>>62735222
No, he didn't write any in S3 or S4, and his first ep after Idiot's Lantern was Victory of the Daleks.
He appeared in The Lazarus Experiment, but didn't write
>>62735222
He only wrote The Unquiet Dead and The Idiot's Lantern
my top three are all classic who anyway
>pic related
>>62735045
probably
>>62735047
id go Freema before Jenna
>>62735166
cool
Karen>Billie>Freema>Jenna>Catherine
>>62735271
Stephen Greenhorn was obviously a pseudonym for Gatiss in series 3 and 4
Oh shit I was rewatching the end credits for the episode
Ben Foster didn't conduct/orchestrate the music this time, it was some guy named Alastair King
behave
Oh my god, this is so fucking dumb. How did this make it to the telly without anyone noticing it's not professionally written?
>>62735311
As far as classic Who I've gotta go Peri>Zoe>Tegan for my top 3, but those are all very good choices.
>>62735166
My fuck list is the exact same. Man, I would pump Karen until I literally passed out due to exhaustion.
>>62735203
The dust in the air were eye boogers, so any point could be a camera, the guy just chose people's eyes and corners of rooms to make a shitty episode of Doctor Who.
>>62735355
Not surprised, but I must admit to enjoying the music / incidentals on this.
>>62734346
>Spooky invisible monsters in the shadows are fine since they're pure fantasy, but trying to modify something that exists in real life to fit into some strange scifi plot always comes off poorly. It's the same reason people don't like 'the moon is an egg' in KTM.
Shadows don't exist in real life?
>>62735393
Blackmail. Gaypiss gets an episode every series because he has a photo of Moffat sucking his dick when they got really drunk at a party, for obvious reasons Moffat doesn't want that out there.
Seriously, it felt like they were going so hard for the twist, that they overlooked all the plot holes and the episode became an incoherent mess.
He pulled a Shaymalan.
>>62735524
What was the twist?
Reminder
Tom Hanks
Peter Capaldi
David Walliams
with music from Duran Duran
Graham Norton Nov. 20th
>>62735491
The shadows aren't the monster, it's what lives in the shadows. In this instance it literally was dust from people's eyes.
>>62735581
That guy that played the Doctor, that was Peter Capaldi the whole episode.
>>62735581
The Doctor wasn't really there.
>>62735491
Invisible monsters, genius. It's not the absence of light that somehow mutated into a swarm of monster things, it's a swarm of invisible monster things that hide in the shadows. There's a very significant and important difference
>>62735581
The fact that apparently the whole episode was made up to get the viewer to keep watching so the signal would infect us. In essence, the only one who would be turned was us.
>>62735624
Wait what?
>>62735581
the video we were watching was how the sandman virus is meant to spread, not the sleep pods
but the sleep pods also somehow created them but for some reason it didn't make sense to use it
>>62735581
The twist was despite how much people claimed it was good, it was shit the entire time. Mind fucking blown.
>>62735399
excellent classic list. Nicola is still smoking hot these days aswell
DID GATISS FORGET THAT HIS CHARACTERS ALL HAD FULLY FUNCTIONAL GUNS THAT THEY NEVER USED, NOT EVEN IN A "OH, OUR GUNS DON'T WORK ON THEM OH DEAR ARRRGH!" MOMENT?
Hey guys, it's time for poetry. le random Doctor XD
>>62735414
Is it different for you based on whether we're talking about the character or the actor? Cause Karen>Jenna any day, but Clara>Amy for me, in part because I like Clara's personality more, and in part because I'd feel like garbage keking Rory
>>62735595
But both are modifying something that exists in real life to fit a sci-fi plot. I don't strongly remember the reasoning behind the Vashta, but it must have also been nonsense if you really thought about it. But basically, because the word 'plot' was used, I took the meaning to be the writers' doing the modifying, not the in-show explanation.
>>62735703
the lady uses it but not until the end
clara for that face
Peri for those tits
Zoe for that ass
and Sarah Jane just because.
Can we just talk about how shit this how has gotten?
>>62735581
You thought it was an aliens homage but really it was a Portal homage but really it was a deadspace homage but really it was a jurassic park homage but really it was a Amnesia The Dark Descent homage but really it was a Ringu homage but really it was absolute incoherent shite.
>>62735790
>gotten
its always been shit
This was legit one of the best episodes of series 9. You should all be ashamed.
Under the Lake > Sleep No More > The Witch's Familiar = The Girl Who Died > Before the Flood > The Magician's Apprentice = The Woman Who Lived > The Zygon Inversion > The Zygon Invasion.
>>62735790
It's a show that goes through ups and downs. Right now it's on a bit of a down, but I think last year was brilliant, so I've got hope.
>38th century
>guns still just fire bullets
>literally nothing special about them
wot?
>>62735833
go to bed gatiss
Oof. Just finished watching.... the last bit was creepy, but the buildup was bloody dull. Reminded me of a Saward story, complete with Generic Space Marines.
>>62735642
>the absence of light that somehow mutated into a swarm of monster things
OK, there you go - that's actually a really dumb idea. It only worked better because killer shadows look creepier than walking excretions.
>>62735790
I liked the last two episodes before this.
>>62735833
entirely backwards, m8
What if I told you I cringe every time you say Morpheus?
>>62735762
For me it's definitely an actress thing. I've always fantasized about Karen more than Jenna. I thibk it's becauase I was hory teenager back when Krean was fie=rst announced, and Amy was designed with obvious sex appeal. Not that Jenna isn't. I'd plow both, but if I had to choose it'd be Karen and her fire crotch. What about you m8?
>>62735872
I think you haven't a shot with either, so give it up.
>>62735853
Dumb as it is, it's pure fantasy and not something which relies on making up rules for something that already exists.
I know for a fact that eye boogers do not have wireless cameras embedded in them, it's scientific fact
That's the difference between vashta nerada and eye booger cameras
>>62735767
No, there is nothing different about the shadows. Shadows exists, it's just in the Library creatures happened to live in them. If a creature lives in a house, you aren't changing the the house.
>>62735833
The Girl Who Died not near the bottom? The hell kind of list is that?
>>62735833
Wrong
UTL > TWF > Inversion > TWWL > BTF > TMA > TGWD > Invasion > SNM
>>62735769
ON A PERSON
AND THEN CLARA SHOUTS AT HER FOR IT LIKE SHE'D SPENT THE ENTIRE EPISODE SHOOTING AT THINGS!?
>>62735920
no she shoots one of the monsters but nothing happens
still, they should have shot it before
>>62735872
Seriously? No shit, Sherlock. This isn't about "ah one day meh and muh waifu will live happily ever after". This about which actress I fap to more and if given even an iota of a chance would rail the shit out of. It's all fantasy, so calm yourself.
>>62735918
this one is ok.
>>62735946
THE GUN GETS USED AS A CLUB BEFORE IT GETS USED AS A GUN!
>>62735950
Meant to reply to >>62735889
>>62735911
And I know for a 'fact' that absence of light doesn't create monsters out of nothing. We're both just quibbling about how dumb something completely fantastical is.
>>62735762
I'd kuck Rory just to set him free. Amy's a bitch who kept shitting down Rory's neck every chance she could and had tried to kuck him the night before the wedding. Even after her ridiculous divorce shit, he still loved her too much to let her go.
Reminder that this is the face of boogery evil
The only thing I liked in this episode was when the Doctor brought up the idea of Clara dying, he stuttered, giving even more evidence that he may already know about her impending demise.
>>62735912
But as I was talking about writers' ideas, they were, in that sense, just flesh-eating shadows. Proved by the explanation being total nonsense.
>>62735491
>>62735642
>invisible
Vashta Nerada aren't invisible. They cast shadows
>>62736058
I liked the part where he said to Clara he sleeps when she isn't looking and then he started to intensly stare at Clara.
What is the Karen ass shot from, anyway?
>>62736015
But anon.. the absence of light didn't create the monsters in Silence in the library
>>62736076
They were described as creatures that lived in shadows, the viewers were never meant to believe it was just the shadows.
>>62736090
I need a webm of that stare
>>62736093
Kevin Bishop Show or whatever it's called.
>>62736086
This anon is correct. They were microscopic creatures that lived as a swarm. You couldn't see one with your naked eye, but it wasn't invisible.
>>62736076
>Proved by the explanation being total nonsense.
Not that anon but, the Vashta Nerada explanation was nonsense? What?
>>62736093
A little indoe film entitled Not Another Happy Ending. It's only worth watching for the ass shot, whicc you can find in its entirety online.
>>62736093
An indie film titled Not Another Happy Ending I think.
>>62736093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBnWq2LF5n4
at the beginning of the ep when they slammed the door on the sandman did it disintegrate the arm or did it kill the whole thing?
>>62736233
we don't know. I thought it was just the arm that got cut off.
>>62736233
If you expect an answer I feel bad for you, Anon.
This episode has no logic but that of a dream.
>>62736257
but where did the sandman go? it disappeared right after.
>>62736272
It wasn't there to begin with.
>>62736279
what do you mean?
>>62736295
The whole thing was the fevered nightmare of the 5 year never-sleeps guy.
>>62736295
The whole events we saw on screen were engineered and tampered with by the scientist guy. Something resembling those events might have happened to the Doctor and Clara, but we don't know what parts are true and which are falsifications to keep us glued to the screen.
>>62736320
it was?
>>62736295
He's lying
>>62736320
Stop lying and confusing people with short attention spans anon
I find it kind of hilarious that Doctor Who now includes an episode about the audience being attacked by eye boogers. I mean, it's shit, but I'm just happy that exists.
>>62736101
>>62736145
There's STILL loads of nonsense to the Vashta. They come out of trees, but not in dangerous numbers. Yet when they come out of paper they're a deadly threat. They're the reason everything fears the dark, because we 'know' they're there...when we don't, and the ones that ARE there aren't deadly. Fantastical nonsense, and not even remotely believable.
It honestly felt like a 9 year old wrote this episode.
>>62736334
are you sure?
>>62736338
The episode itself is the monster of the week, and it's an unreliable narrator.
>>62736334 has the gist of it.
Mr. Gayman
give me an episode
that doesn't suck
a fat fucking dick for once
>>62736352
The concept is really cool though. Too bad BF did it first and it's oh-so-much-more enjoyable.
>>62736348
No, I think this episode had a much higher concept than people are grasping right now.
>>62736370
Almost had a haiku going there.
>>62736015
>And I know for a 'fact' that absence of light doesn't create monsters out of nothing.
Actually the vashnerada were living shadows - it's a plot point early on that people with "extra shadows" are "already dead".
The difference between those and eyeboogers is that the living shadows had their rules and general concept quickly spelt out - They are living things that come from some alien forest. once they latch onto you they can eat the flesh off your bones almost immediately and ride your skeleton around to chase people. You can't attack the skeletons they rode around because the shadows could quickly latch onto you, BUT they do need to touch you to get you, and it's not like you can hurt shadows and there's not just one but loads of them so it's best to run and running works unless you run into them.
With eyeboogers they just... they were blind? But they somehow found people, even when there was lots of other noises? But they could move very quickly? Except they mostly shambled about? And they could form from nowhere? Except sometimes they didn't? And they were all in the air? Maybe they can't be killed? Except they took damage when one had its arm chopped off? And they dissolved when the station shook about a bit? And at the end for no reason? And they come from using the machines? but they can attack anyone including people who don't use the machine?
I don't, despite having seen the episode, have any idea how the fucking eyeboogers work, they are everywhere and they can get you if they feel like it? Or through you seeing a film even apparently?
>>62736208
>>62736207
Is there full frontal?
>>62736363
As sure as I dare to be in this case. Rasmussen said it himself at the end - he fabricated the narrative so we would watch the whole video and be infected by the boogermen.
I was waiting for Jenna to pick out a big nasty eye booger and wipe it on somebody.
>>62736408
Hartnell, Troughton, Pert.
Tom, Peter, Colin and Sylv.
Plus some other gits.
>>62736399
>Gatiss
>higher concept
>>62736413
The eyeboogers don't HAVE to work in any logical sense. They are fevered dreams, who's only disjointed purpose in life is to push forward a narrative.
The fire alarm rang in my dorm around 12 minutes into the episode. We got back to the tv around 28 minutes in. I'm having trouble figuring out if I missed anything.
>>62736408
It's the "sandman" song but with better lyrics.
>>62736420
Hmmm. I missed that somehow.
>>62736437
I would eat her eye boogers if she wanted me to.
>>62736453
>who's only disjointed purpose in life is to push forward a narrative.
Yes but why? What was the purpose of a narrative? Wasn't the signal in the opening bit? What was the narrative anyway I didn't see any in the episode?
>>62736459
Don't worry, most of Whodom missed this episode, even while they watched it.
>>62736487
Haven't you ever been 30 hours awake before? It's something like LSD, a hallucinogen, a tripped out state of being where your brain makes connections that just shouldn't be. That's what this episode is.
The narrative is that of a madman. The purpose is ungraspable. The signal ran for 45 minutes and we're still decoding it even now.
This episode was 100% effective at being what it wanted to be.
Madness.
Doctor Who usually does a recap post on Facebook for UK then NA later. They didn't even bother with the American recap post this week. Guess they took the hint about how much everyone hated it.
>>62736488
For a while, my friends and I were having trouble figuring out if the episode had tons of plot holes because we missed a fourth, or it just had them. Now I just gotta figure out how shitty it was.
I feel like this would have been a really funny episode if it were made 40 years ago
>>62736460
Mr. Gaypiss
your script makes me sick
it really sucks
a fat fucking dick
>>62736453
>The eyeboogers don't HAVE to work in any logical sense.
YES THEY DO, THIS IS A STORY AND THE NARRATIVE FRAMING DEVICE CAN'T OVERRULE THE ACTUAL NEED FOR THE STORY TO FUCKING WORK AS A STORY IN ITS OWN RIGHT!
>>62736552
You can't in all truth recap this episode, anon. Because nothing what we saw save the ending can be assumed to have actually happened. And giving away the ending spoils it.
>>62736353
And yet still miles better than the bullshit that was eye booger men
>>62736334
>>62736420
Pretty sure he just planned and recorded almost everything and edited most of it into a more entertaining video to keep us watching.
>Hello again! Thing is, you see, this message, this testament, it wasn't just my alibi. It was my plan. There are no spores. No infection. The Morpheus process remains the same. An electronic signal that affects the sleep centres of the brain. Changes them. An electronic signal that's contained in this recording. There it is. Tickles, doesn't it? I've just got time to fit this bit in and then I can finish the story. Then I'm going to transmit this footage to the whole Solar System. I do hope you've enjoyed the show. I did try to make it exciting. All those scary bits. All those death-defying scrapes, monsters, and a proper climax with a really big one at the end! Compulsive viewing. I did tell you not to watch.
Nothing said he could outright fabricate and completely make things up.
>>62736569
Sleep No More is a Bad Trip. It makes the walls bleed oranges.
"It doesn't make any sense. None of this makes any sense!" --The Doctor
At least Love & Monsters had a consistent narrative you could follow, as shitty as it was.
This was a clusterfuck of ideas that were bizarre and made no fucking sense.
>>62736568
There was a man who was quite gay
Wrote terrible scripts every day
He knows boogers and sand
Like the back of his hand
And he's never going away
>>62736353
>They come out of trees, but not in dangerous numbers. Yet when they come out of paper they're a deadly threat.
The planet was literally covered with books, almost every square inch was some part of a tree, from the wood floors to the books that lined the shelves. Most planets aren't like that, there is no way for them to amass.
>They're the reason everything fears the dark
Speculation. It's not a fact.
Even if they aren't believable their existence is purely fiction, rather than moddifying something that exists.
>>62736559
It has them. On purpose. Doesn't make it shitty, though. As this anon >>62736399
said, it had a higher concept than most people would register on their first viewing. I'm on round two and it's really growing on to me. The only thing I can't stand is that silly 474 thing.
>>62736568
>>62736639
Is this a Mark Gatiss poetry slam?
Did the dialogue sound really wooden at the beginning of the episode when the rescue team was being introduced?
>>62736413
The weren't shadows, they were microscobic organisms. In large groups they appeared to be a shadow, but they themselves were not shadows.
>>62736698
Dialogue is usualy wooden in dreams.
>>62736353
Vashta Nerada are always deadly, always dangerous. It's just that normally, they are so few that you are still fairly safe in the shadows, as long as you don't walk into the one that's actually a swarm of Vashta Nerada. Not every shadow, but any shadow. That's what he said. And they become an absulote deadly threat in the library because everything is processed wood around there. In that case, nearly every shadow is infested with them.
>Despite her shock festive return, Doctor Who, played by Peter Capaldi, still faces being lonely this Christmas because River doesn’t recognise his new reincarnation & keeps romancing other fellas. The lovelorn Timelord ends up chasing River around the universe in a vain bid to to win over her affections. Show-runner Steven Moffat admitted that the Christmas special wasn’t very festive - but there’d be “lots of kissing” and flirting as Doctor Who turns into a saucy rom-com. “It is not the most Christmassy Doctor Who ever but it is a funny, fast madcap chase episode with the doctor being chased and also chasing River.” He told how he decided to bring back River as the perfect female foil for Peter Capaldi after speaking to his predecessor Russell T Davies. Moffat revealed: “Russell said ‘you’ve got to bring her back - she has got to be together with Capaldi - it will be a sex storm.’ “So I have - though the episode is called ‘Sex Storm’ - i couldn’t get that past the controller - but it is a wonderful episode. "There is wonderful chemistry between Peter and Alex. It had to be done.’’
>Peter said: “It is a lighthearted fun thing River doesn’t recognise the Doctor and he gets upset because she is flirting and doing all sort of stuff with people. “She simply cannot be persuaded that he is the former Matt Smith/David Tennant/Christopher Eccleston - so there is lots of kissing, but not between River and the doctor! “It was great working with Alex. She is an old hand on the show - it was brilliant fun.”
>“The Tardis is covered in Icicles at the beginning but it moves on quite fast from that, basically you become aware of how many times you have done Christmas specials. “Eventually you run out of things to do - or you end up with “deadly snake tinsel”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-serving-up-sex-6833987
holy kek
I generally like Moffat's episodes but this sounds so fucking terrible.
>>62736585
Their UK post was just "What about those Sandmen? How scary were they?", followed by 3,000 comments saying how shitty the episode was.
>>62736734
That sounds retarded
>>62736734
I'd rather the deadly snake tinsel, actually.
>>62736413
Even in your simple rules there's utter nonsense, where you just have to choose to suspend your disbelief and go with it - "it's not like you can hurt shadows", but they're not shadows, they just conveniently have no physical weakness, despite them having physical presence. So they're not shadows when it helps the creepiness, but they are when it doesn't.
Could they have just said the eyeboogers were micro-organisms that are always in our eyes, left to go out of control because non-sleepers weren't expelling them or something? I'm not saying they weren't dumb. Then there's the unreliable narration, which means trying to work out what the hell was up with them is pointless anyway.
>>62736754
Who's fanbase doesn't deserve the Platinum age.
>>62736754
I know, I saw them. Guess Gatiss aimed too high on this one.
>>62736734
>mirror
Aside from the quotes a lot of that sounds like bullshit.
>>62736413
No full frontal, sadly.Two great ass shots though.
>>62736794
Gatiss hit a home run.
The fans were too busy looking at their phones to notice.
>>62736535
>The signal ran for 45 minutes and we're still decoding it even now.
BUT WHY DOES THE SIGNAL BRING EYEBOOGERS TO LIFE IF ITS IN BRAINS?!
Goddamn, the annoying hting is that the bit near the end where he mentions "spores" made some sense of the episode - the signal changes people, the people don't sleep, they change more, they put out spores, the spores make eyebooger monsters. The monster now has SOME rules and an origin.
EXCEPT HE THEN SAYS HE MADE THAT UP.
AND THE EYEBOOGERS ONLY COME ABOUT BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T SLEEP, SO WHY IS THERE A LONG LINGERING FOCUS ON HIM AT THE END LIKE WE, PEOPLE WHO SLEEP, ARE SUPPOSED TO THINK "oh no, maybe eyeboogers will eat me... when... I'm... on a space station?" OR SOMETHING?!
AND DO THEY EVEN "eat people"? THE ONLY PERSON WE SEE THEM EAT ISN'T A PERSON SO...
AND WHY DIDN'T THE RADIOS WORK? AND WHAT WAS WITH GLADOS THE AI? WHY DID THAT ONLY HAPPEN ONCE? AND WHY COULDN'T THEY HEAR SOMEONE YELLING DOWN A CORRIDOR?
>>62736734
>Eventually you run out of things to do
Then maybe you should quit your job.
That's literally your entire purpose for the show
This was a great episode and any of you faggots who are patricians know that. Not every story has to spoon feed you every detail. This story was arguably the creepiest and most unique thing who has ever done.
>GATISS FOR SHOWRUNNER
>>62736797
Well, true, people basically sit in a room and make shit up (or so I'm told).
>>62736851
I'd agree with unique, but creepy no so much
>>62736835
Ironic, because this was the episode where they could actually have been stariing at their phones the whole time except for that bit when the scientist explained what was actually happening.
>>62736846
It seems the madness of a sleep deprived mind may have infected you.
I suggest you get a good nights sleep, then reconsider your position on reality.
>>62736851
Anon, the key to baiting properly is subtlety.
0/10 b8 m8, but here's your reply, though a critique rather
>>62736601
>There are no spores. No infection. The Morpheus process remains the same. An electronic signal that affects the sleep centres of the brain. Changes them. An electronic signal that's contained in this recording. There it is.
Doesn't this strongly suggest that nothing in the video is real?
>>62736797
They're pretty much repeating what the quotes say for the most part though, only in a sensationalised manner.
>>62736905
>. The lovelorn Timelord ends up chasing River around the universe in a vain bid to to win over her affections
This sounds like BS to me/
>>62736776
Same. This Christmas special actually sounds like it'll be worse than RTD's.
>>62736904
It suggests that we all got mind-fucked for 45 minutes and never got the joke.
>>62736904
No, it only suggests that the camera glitches throughout the episode were designed to mimic the effects of the Morpheus machines.
>>62736900
You know, I'm pretty sure you're winding me up.. but I did get in late tonight, and I've only watched it the once. Maybe it'll seem better if I give it another go in the morning - after all, I thought Ghost Light was utter shit the first time I saw it.
>>62736690
It's a Mark Gatiss Slamming Poetry Slam
>>62736734
>mfw the link has the same text
>>62736941
Nah it sounds like what Moffat said here
>“It is not the most Christmassy Doctor Who ever but it is a funny, fast madcap chase episode with the doctor being chased and also chasing River.”
>>62736954
No way it will be worse than EOT. It will probably be bad though.
>>62736968
I'm not winding you up.
I'm just pissed off that so many people are simply not getting the punch-line to tonights joke.
>>62736904
No, it means the guy was just lying to the Doctor when he said that waking up patient zero would release spores that'd do shit
>>62736642
There would be planets, or areas of planets...forests...with shit-tons of wood, but somehow not enough to be dangerous.
>>62737004
Fair enough, I guess it's possible the whole point was 'insane dream logic'.
>>62737001
I always forget that EoT was a Christmas special. Sounds like it'll be close enough to that bad, only skippable.
if episode 11 turns out as GOAT as it sounds then moffat is forgiven for any future shit ep he writes
>>62736964
So anybody watching the video is helping to create/spread the dust in an effort to wipe out humanity?
Not that anon, but by the end I had no idea what his point was, so thanks for explaining that for me. Still not really a fan of the episode, but at least it makes a little more sense now.
>>62737024
Hey, at least it didn't end with a sandy blowjob.
>>62736729
Everything in a tree is wood, so being by any shadow near a tree should be highly dangerous. Suspension of disbelief is definitely required.
>>62737013
Of course, the forested areas would be immensely dangerous. As long as you're not on Endor or in a library spread over the whole planet, you've got somewhere to be safe from the shadows. Oh wait.
Bingo?
>>62737051
Amen. I'm just hoping we get a momentous Raven/Heaven/Hell trilogy to end the season on a successful note.
>>62737071
Dem DSLs tho.
Guys, I think Sandman's coming to get me. I'm crying right now. He's so scary.
>>62737013
Shit tons != every square inch of space. Plus the ones on the Library had a sort of mass sentience, and was upset their homes were destroyed. At the end of the day they themselves decided to let the people go. While they need to eat, they are capable of choosing not to kill anyone or anything.
>>62736904
>Doesn't this strongly suggest that nothing in the video is real?
But why the doctor then? Like, I could see "oh, everyone was a dust monster from the beginning and it was an elaborate "play" the monsters put on, using all sandman actors, to produce content for their brain whammy webisode.
...so why's the doctor there if he doesn't stop the signal going out? hell, why wasn't "the doctor works out it's an elaborate fraud with fake sandman people acting as the marines from aliens, foils the scheme by stopping the signal being sent" the actual plot rather than this nonsense where everyone dies and the doctor in no way does anything and then a sandman goes "glaaaargle" at the screen for half an hour?
>>62736964
>the effects of the Morpheus machines
Da fuq "effects" are you talking about? You've invented headcanon that wasn't in the episode m8.
How will Gallifrey be restored in the finale if at Christmas 12 is having an OOC adventure getting c u c k e d by Rover Dong?
A 2001 study at the Chicago Medical Institute suggested that sleep deprivation may be linked to serious diseases, such as heart disease and mental illness including psychosis and bipolar disorder.[25] The link between sleep deprivation and psychosis was further documented in 2007 through a study at Harvard Medical School and the University of California at Berkeley. The study revealed, using MRI scans, that sleep deprivation causes the brain to become incapable of putting an emotional event into the proper perspective and incapable of making a controlled, suitable response to the event. --sleep deprivation wiki
>>62737062
You've grasped it amicably.
IF THE SANDMEN COULDN'T SEE BECAUSE OF THE SEEING SIGNALS BEING RECORDED AND SLEEPY SCIENCE MAN WAS A SANDMAN HOW COME HE COULD SEE ALL THE TIME?
>Episode with Sandmen and Morpheus
>It's not Neil Gaiman
WTF Moffat.
http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/doctor-who/episodes/face-the-raven
>When the Doctor gets a call from an old friend on Earth who’s in mortal danger he and Clara spring into action, but what the Time Lord doesn’t realise is that to save his pal’s life he’ll have to face a host of his greatest enemies!
>The friend in distress is Rigsy, the graffiti artist who first met The Doctor and Clara during last series. He finds a number mysteriously tattooed on his neck and begins to worry, but when he realises the number is counting down to zero he knows he’s in deep trouble…
>The Doctor knows the tattoo is a countdown to Rigsy’s death and to save him he must find a secret street in London, which has become home to a collection of fearsome aliens from across space and time including Cybermen, Judoon, and a mysterious Raven!
>But Rigsy isn’t the only old friend that The Doctor and Clara bump into. When the trio eventually find the secret London street, they discover the only person who can stop the tattoo countdown and save Rigsy’s life is Ashildr (Maisie Williams), the Viking girl who the Doctor made immortal earlier in the series…Things also get very dramatic for Clara, played by Jenna Coleman who is leaving the show this series. The pair built up a close friendship when they met last year, but before long it’s the Doctor’s companion who finds herself in terrible danger…
>>62737198
because everything that occoured was brought about by his fractured mental state.
Believe nothing you see or hear.
>>62737160
The Doctor is there
a) because he probably was during the original events
b) because it guarantees you keep watching the tape. The show is called Doctor Who, not having the Doctor or companion in it makes people switch the channel.
>>62737178
Remember when Clara was killed off for real and left the show during the last Christmas special?
Moffat straight up lies about upcoming stuff now, because honestly it's the right thing to do.
>>62737187
Also: SANDMONSTERS WILL KILL YOU OFF SCREEN VERY QUIETLY WITH NO MESS
>>62737221
>Cybermen
Eh? How are they in the trap street, wouldn't they just start converting all the other aliens?
>>62737264
Not sure considering NiS, but wouldn't they need their cyberconversion machine or something?
>>62737013
It's more like
Library:
>whole forests with eggs of dangerous things
>all condensed into one planet of books and wood
>left alone to breed and multiply as much and as long as they want
>away from any natural hazards or predators there might've been on those planets
vs
Forests
>most likely separate forests from different and possibly some noninhabited planets (afterall, who's gonna just give away all this wood themselves for a planet library big enough to have it's own moon)
And Doctor never said they weren't dangerous, just not
> an infestation on this scale-or as aggressive
and
Most planets will have them but usually in small clusters
Mind you the "usually" in used only in regards to the number of them not in regards to planets having them at all. So only usually are they in small clusters, but obviously you can have unusual circumstances where they are in large clusters.
>>62737160
>Da fuq "effects" are you talking about? You've invented headcanon that wasn't in the episode m8.
Were you not paying attention?
>Morpheus machines change brain chemistry to reduce the need for sleep
>the changes cause eye boogers to mutate and come alive inside the body
>not sleeping each night means the eye boogers aren't ejected through the eyes and cleaned away in the morning
>after long enough of not sleeping the build up of mutant cells take over and turn the person into a Sandman
>the Morpheus machine works on electronic signals to the brain
>the video contains the same signals delivered through what appear to be glitches in the video feed
>watching the whole video gives you the same changes that the Morpheus machines do
>once the change has been started you will eventually turn into a Sandman
>human nature will make you want to show the video to people in the meantime
>once everyone watches the whole video they will all turn into Sandmen
This is all spelled out very plainly in the episode.
>>62737247
>a) because he probably was during the original events
WHAT ORIGINAL EVENTS IT'S ALL A FRAUD AND FAKE REMEMBER!
>>62737247
>The show is called Doctor Who
THE SIGNAL IN THE 31st MILLENIUM ISN'T AN EPISODE OF DOCTOR WHO THOUGH?!
AND HOW THE SHAKESPEAR THEN?
>>62737324
*>Most planets will have them but usually in small clusters
>>62737305
I can't fault you for not wanting to remember Nightmare in Silver, anon, but cast your mind back and remember they've got those novelty little Cybermites now. Those are good for at least a partial conversion.
>>62737305
Apparently all they need is a bucket of cyberwater thanks to DiH
>>62737149
Micro-beings getting sentience because numbers is more fantastical nonsense. And going from happy to eat sentient beings to choosing not to kill isn't highly logical. But then they were worried about the Doctor, even though his ultimate effort was to ask them to stop. None of it holds up if you scrutinize it much.
>>62737326
>the changes cause eye boogers to mutate and come alive inside the body
>>62737305
>>62737346
No one wants to remember NIS. Moffat ignored it for S8 and rightly so. That was a piece of shit episode. Hammy villain Matt acting was the only good part.
I just read somewhere the rumor that Capaldi did / nearly walked off set during filming of Sleep No More.
Anyone have confirmation / evidence of this?
Blah blah blah. The Vashna Nerada's behavior changes when lignin levels change or something.
>>62737375
It's BS. Capaldi said his favorite monsters this series were the Sandman.
>>62737359
>because numbers is more fantastical nonsense
Yeah but it's a ruleset
And oh god, were the eyeboogers sentient?
Like what the hell, were the eyeboogers capable of thought and planning they must have been but eyeboogers? and why?
>>62737260
>Remember when Clara was killed off for real and left the show during the last Christmas special?
What? When did he say this?
And I know he lies, like saying he wasn't bringing back the Master and all that, but none of this stuff sounds like obfuscation. What would even be the point of lies like these.
>sleep machines that turn eye crust into monsters that can also float in the air like dust and film everything
Are these clowns even trying any more?
>>62737354
Isn't that a divergent offshoot of the Cybermen?
>>62737398
Tongue firmly in cheek no doubt.
>>62737425
i kind of liked it on first watch but the more you think about it the more it makes no sense
just a shit episode
pretty skippable too, unless you really want more jenna and peter stuff.
>dat last episode
someone is doing some terrible drugs on the Doctor Who writing staff I tell you what
>>62737415
>What? When did he say this?
If you read the papers or the radio times prior to last year's chrimbo special, the producers and everyone involved in the show was saying that Clara's actor was leaving the show and she was going to have her send off in the christmas special.
That's what people and the papers were being told, which was why there's that false ending in the special.
>>62737464
Gatiss only smokes poles
>>62737475
>everyone involved in the show was saying that Clara's actor was leaving the show and she was going to have her send off in the christmas special.
No they didn't.
>>62737324
>away from any natural hazards or predators there might've been on those planets
But how do you hurt a (not-)shadow?
Where is wood more condensed than it is in...wood? Wood from a tree.
>>62737475
>If you read the papers or the radio times prior to last year's chrimbo special, the producers and everyone involved in the show was saying that Clara's actor was leaving the show and she was going to have her send off in the christmas special.
No, that was just the rumours being printed.
None of the producers or the actors would confirm either way if she was leaving or not. Moffat wasn't saying. Jenna wasn't saying. They didn't lie. They kept that up until the episode aired.
>>62737342
>WHAT ORIGINAL EVENTS IT'S ALL A FRAUD AND FAKE REMEMBER!
Gee anon are you really that dense.
Things that really happened: All people you saw there were really there. Quite a few probably died really horribly. The Doctor was there as well, he made a retreat or maybe soniced the sandperson into submission. The point is, he is part of Rasmussen's narrative.
>THE SIGNAL IN THE 31st MILLENIUM ISN'T AN EPISODE OF DOCTOR WHO THOUGH?!
No, it probably isn't. But if it weren't, the meta joke at the end wouldn't work. You kept watching it after being told that you really should not because you knew it was a DW episode. The punchline explains that you really should have listened to Rasmussen. And you only kept watching because you thought you were in for a fun, slightly creepy romp in space.
>>62737346
>Cybermites
>>62737460
>jenna and peter stuff.
there wasn't even much of that.
>>62737503
The process of making paper involves removing large amounts of the lignin. That may or may not be relevant.
>>62737527
there were a few funny scenes
might be enough for some people
>>62736413
Vashta Nevada were dumb. Stupid plot contrivances used to create artificial suspension. Light couldn't hurt them, so what was stopping them just shooting across and eating everyone? Because they were "keeping their victims fresh". You know what keeps people fresh? Living. Fucking dumb. Not as dumb as eye boogers, but really dumb regardless. There limitations were never explained. As this anon said:
>>62736782
>>62737342
The events occurred, but without his machines he couldn't do much in spreading the sandmen. By embedding the electronic signals into the video instead of the machines he could insure the spread of the species to every corner of the solar system. All he did was make what was happening more exciting, he sabotaged the gravity shields, he let people get away because the creatures "couldn't see." Everything that happened was staged for entertainment, but they still happened. Think of it like the Truman show.
>>62737519
but he didn't fake anything
>>62737519
>the meta joke at the end wouldn't work
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!
>>62737398
Favorite new monsters, surely? I can't see the eyeboogers beating Zygons or Daleks in his fan brain.
Haven't seen it yet
Is it really Love and Monsters tier like some people are saying?
>>62737573
he was talking about s9
Not only was the whole thing laughable and confusing, the twist seems to suggest none of it happened anyway. Bravo Gatiss.
>>62737581
nah
>>62737503
This.
>>62737367
The Doctor literally fucking says it and Clara even clarifies it in plain English for the audience.
@16:24
>Doctor: When we sleep, the mucous crust builds up in our eyes. Blood cells, skin cells -- that's what dust largely is: human skin. But your meddling has evolved it. Hot-housed it. What used to be sleep in your eye has turned into a carnivorous lifeform.
@16:39
>Clara: So the longer you're in Morpheus, the more the dust builds up.
@16:43
>Doctor: Lying there in those pods, people are a ready-made food source.
>Clara: Where are they, then? Where's the crew?
>Doctor: Digested.
So here's how it works according to the episode: Normally, you go to sleep and get a mixture of cells ejected from your body through your eyes. You wake up, clean it out, and go on with your day. When you use Morpheus, you no longer sleep, so those cells are no longer ejected. They stay in your body and build up like a cancer.
Something about what Morpheus does to your brain and body chemistry to reduce the need for sleep also evolves/mutates the sleep dust into something living and sentient. Eventually the Morpheus user is overtaken and digested by the sentient sleep dust that's built up and his body is replaced by a giant pile of eye boogers, then they go out looking for more food.
Is it pretty stupid? Yeah. Makes no sense? Sure. But is it exactly what they explain in the episode? Yes, it fucking is.
>>62737522
Not sure what you're trying to say by that apart from the obvious parallels to Borg implants, but I see your Seven of Nine and raise you a boner.
>>62737414
The ruleset here is that eyeboogers CAN be brought to life by...machine-altered brains? Yes, it's ridiculous, but both are made-up nonsense.
>>62737573
Keyword: this. The only things they really had to compete with were the ghosts and arguably the Mire and lion dudes.
>>62737581
It's an acid trip gone horribly wrong. The most daring and breathtaking episode of Doctor Who ever, and nobody has come to realize it yet.
>>62737568
>but he didn't fake anything
But the sandmen COULD appear like anyone or thing? THEY WERE LIKELY THE MEAT IN THE FREEZER! THE ENTIRE SPACE STATION COULD BE ONE GIANT EYEBOOGER! CLARA IS PROBABLY AN EYEBOOGER! THE TARDIS IS AN EYEBOOGER! BECAUSE EYEBOOGERS CAN TRAVEL THROUGH TIME BECAUSE BRAIN CHANGES!
I think I've read terrible Docotor Who fanfiction by a 12 year old that was better put together than this last episode.
its pretty much a tv episode equivalent to the Room
>>62737324
Why did they infest shadows?
And the books and wood were all from the same planet. They specifically mention the forests were their breeding grounds. It's not a matter of them being condensed, it's a matter of them having humans to feed on.
>>62737625
I Actually kinda liked the ghosts.
>>62737619
>The ruleset here is that eyeboogers CAN be brought to life by...machine-altered brains?
EXCEPT THE BRAINS WHERE ALSO EYEBOOGERS! AND SO WAS THE COMPUTER!
>>62737572
Well it would still work for people from the 31st century being super curious and thinking "Ha, what can go wrong, watching a tape" or "I guess he meant that figuratively, top secret stuff".
It just wouldn't have worked at all if the Doctor wasn't in it because, we, the intended, real, audience, wouldn't like to see an episode completely devoid of the title theme and title characters. So WE would actually have stopped watching like the guy said.
>>62737581
No, it's an enjoyable episode, ignore memers
>>62737709
go to bed gatiss
>>62737541
But in that case, all the actual wood in the floors and everything that's been mentioned as adding to the problem, wouldn't be a poblem.
Why don't we stop and have a nice little chat where I tell you all my plans and you can work out a way to stop me?
>>62737601
The twist revealed it was staged to be more entertaining, not that it didn't happen. Like I said above, it's like the Truman show. The Doctor wasn't aware everything was staged.
>>62737503
>But how do you hurt a (not-)shadow?
We have no idea what kind of alien life is out there
>Where is wood more condensed than it is in...wood? Wood from a tree.
where you gather a shitload of wood from a shitload of planets enough to make nothing but a planet "forest" and let them breed all they want and make more
>>62737731
you don't make paper out of the the same wood as you make floors out of.
(thought to be fair, those shadow monsters apparently survived the elaborate process of pulping wood and bleaching it to turn it into paper without being annoyed or killing anyone but apparently being put on shelves pissed them the fuck off, because otherwise the story doesn't work)
The episode was worth it for the finale scene alone.
>>62737615
This is further backed up by what the Doctor says in the freezer:
@24:40
>Doctor: Every morning we wake up and wipe the sleep from our eyes, and that keeps us safe. Safe from the monsters inside.
>>62737581
don't even ask what Love and Monsters was like. Watch it and form your own opinion.
>>62737740
Except everything he tells the Doctor about his plan is a lie and the real plan was just the video.
>>62737755
>The Doctor wasn't aware everything was staged.
...which makes it a pretty shitty doctor who episode.
>>62737740
I also thought he was going to turn out to be The Master.
Fuck this episode was plainly embarrassing
>>62737781
>those shadow monsters apparently
>apparently being put on shelves pissed them the fuck off
they hadn't hatched yet
>PROPER DAVE/VASHTA NERADA We come from here.
>DOCTOR From here?
>PROPER DAVE/VASHTA NERADA We hatched here.
bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum
>>62737631
>EYEBOOGERS CAN TRAVEL THROUGH TIME BECAUSE BRAIN CHANGES
Makes about as much sense as a death being a break in space-time, or whatever it was that opened a portal to the lion-verse. But not any of the millions of normal deaths in middle ages Earth, only unjust deaths of featured characters.
Plot Twist: Shitty episode of Doctor Who turns out to be Shitty Fans of Doctor Who misinterpreting greatness.
>>62737615
Evolved.
Eyeboogers.
It evolves and "builds up" the eyeboogers because we sleep less?
The eyeboogers that show up when we wake up from sleeping.
Build up.
And float.
And evolve.
And gain sentience.
And wifi.
And cameras.
And microphones.
And can perfectly imitate an ordinary human being.
Because we sleep less.
>>62737879
fuck off gaypiss
>>62737699
The un-expelled crusts you're gathering while in ths thread will be eyeboogers if you don't go to bed, anon. Not sure about your computer, though.
>>62737813
I agree the episode was bad, all I was doing was pointing out that the events happened. Also, the Doctor did realize something was off at the end, he just never understood what.
>>62737903
You know, sometimes when we stand too close to paintings, all we can see are the brush strokes; we miss the big picture.
All I'm saying is, take time to step back, take a deep breath, and try to take in the picture that's actualy painted sometimes.
>>62737878
>or whatever it was that opened a portal to the lion-verse.
...Fuck, I'd forgotten about the furry dimension.
though to be entirely fair, it did need the magical nipple clamp to open a portal to the furry-verse.
...but the nipple clamp was powered by death and did lead to the kilrathi homeworld.
Which was fucking stupid.
>>62737878
>But not any of the millions of normal deaths in middle ages Earth, only unjust deaths of featured characters.
No, every death is a minor break in space-time, but it's very tiny and doesn't do much unless you have a device like that amulet, which essentially acts like a crowbar that jams into that tiny break and levers it open to create a wormhole.
>>62737903
I didn't say it was good. I didn't even say I liked it. All I said is that's literally what happened in the episode and it's not some headcanon I made up. You can check those timestamps in the episode if you want to verify the quotes.
The episode wasn't great, but it's not the worst ever. Get some perspective.
It's better than Love and Monsters, Fear Her, The Doctor, The Widow and The Wardrobe, Nightmare in Silver, Kill the Moon, In the Forest of the Night and The Girl Who Died.
>>62738008
>The Girl Who Died.
no.
are there any military characters who are actually proficient in this show recently?
>>62738008
I wouldn't say that it was better than Girl Who Died. GWD may have been scientifically incaccurate, but it still was entertaining, light, funny, and to me enjoyable.
This episode, not so much.
>>62738031
That clone carried her buddy through fire and died standing up to a nameless terror. I call that proficient.
>>62738031
Cyberbrig.
at least a new companion means more stories regarding them and less monster of the week episodes like this
No one make a new thread. Let this general die along with this shit series.
>>62738031
Wasn't the black dude in the beginning of Under the Lake in the military? He was pretty proficient while he lasted.
>>62737759
But the wood in a tree is pure, solid wood. It's wood all the way through! A regular forest has a whole lot of wood in it. Earth forests must at least have enough wood to...produce millions of books each year. And lots of furniture. Surely enough to make a good number of rooms of THE library. A forest would have to at least be pretty risky.
>>62738093
He died in the first two minutes. Not what I'd call proficient.
>>62737903
I like to think the guy engineered the creatures, and used the "eye boogers" as a base to form the bodies. He capitalized on people's desire to get more done, so he invented the machines as an easy way to grow his species. With improvements he managed to get the same result without the machines by transmitting the electrical signals with the video. They didn't evolve into those things naturally, that was just 12's theory, a theory that even he knew didn't make any sense. The whole scenario bugged the shit out of him because he was missing that piece of information (how they came to be). Had he known they were engineered he would've probably worked out the video had a more sinister purpose.
>>62738106
>But the wood in a tree is pure, solid wood
Actually there's not - the process of pulping wood to turn it into paper requires you compress the wood until all the juice is squeezed out, so paper is technically more woody than trees.
(anyone got a gif or webm of the other arse shot?)
>It doesn't make sense! None of this makes any sense!
It's called Gaypiss, Doctor.
>>62737781
>you don't make paper out of the the same wood as you make floors out of.
So...paper's bad, because it's condensed, and floors are bad because...they're a different wood, that's...also condensed?
If floor wood is bad, tree wood is bad, right?
>>62737854
Eggs are, what, nastier than their parents? Or Earth books don't have eggs that hatch? They don't come from eggs when they're still in trees?
>>62738170
Did you not spot that everyone's names are in that? You can see "claraoswa" and "oswald"
Also: is "Nagata" even a real japanese surname? Nagato is, but nagata is just a short sword.
>>62738141
Eye boogers building up due to lack of sleep still doesn't make sense, though. If you don't sleep, all the mucous and dead cells still leave your body, just while you're awake.
Does anybody remember plans to end doctor who with a new season and a film? I think it was 6 or so years ago and it was during tennant as doctor. Are they still doing it?
>>62738179
>If floor wood is bad, tree wood is bad, right?
SHADOWS CAN STEER SKELETONS AND JETFUEL CAN MELT STEAL BEAMS
>>62738106
>Surely enough to make a good number of rooms of THE library.
In a planet literally big enough that it's all a library and has it's own moon? No
>A forest would have to at least be pretty risky.
A forest can be risky, did you not read the second part of my response to you earlier?
>And Doctor never said they weren't dangerous, just not
> "an infestation on this scale-or as aggressive"
>and
>"Most planets will have them but usually in small clusters"
>Mind you the "usually" in used only in regards to the number of them not in regards to planets having them at all. So only usually are they in small clusters, but obviously you can have unusual circumstances where they are in large clusters.
>>62737983
Yeah, but Lion-O couldn't find a single person dying a natural death, on Earth - in the middle ages.
>>62738249
>end doctor who
It's a cash cow for auntie beeb, this shit is gonna go Simpsons before it's ended again.
>people attempting to make sense of what is intended to be senseless.
>>62738232
>Eggs are, what, nastier than their parents?
What? speak english man
>Or Earth books don't have eggs that hatch?
Yes they do, not sure what you're getting at
>They don't come from eggs when they're still in trees?
Again, what?
>>62738297
gr8 b8
>>62738234
The names are repeating. Where you see "claraoswa" it's just cut off by the screen. Elsewhere you can see "claraoswald" in full.
>is "Nagata" even a real japanese surname?
It might be in the 32nd century after Japan and India merged due to massive tectonic shifts to become Indojapan.
>>62735847
Space marine guns project the bullets by means of high rather than low explosives. Always.
>>62738243
The didn't build up from lack of sleep. The machines essentially gave people a months worth of sleep in five minutes. The body made a months worth of eye boogers each use.
>>62738271
The even better part was that he ended up not even waiting until the guy died. He just slapped the amulet on the dude and it did the killing. So he could have done that to anyone.
>>62738317
>after Japan and India merged
Like a HYBRID?
>>62738073
Nu-Who HAS to have not just episodes, but whole arcs centred on the companion. God damn.
>>62735911
38th century eye boogers shoot at BBC-pulse 50/2Hz with fake scanlines added
>>62738330
I think you mean marines.
>>62738344
The only way that would work is if the machine also accelerated the user's body's cell production by that amount, because the sleep dust is made of dead skin cells.
>>62738258
The Vashna Nerada were able to steer the space suits. They didn't actually need the skeletons for anything.
>>62738392
I think you're fucking retarded if you think marines use an experimental H&K pattern rifle from the '80s with rare as fuck experimental ammunition.
Genuinely the worst series since the 2nd.
>>62738305
Somehow the fact that the library has unhatched eggs makes it more dangerous. I think? Since that dialogue was used to refute a claim that it was being on shelves that pissed them off. Or was it saying the pulping and everything didn't kill them because they were only unhatched eggs? I don't understand it. But I don't see what's unclear about asking if the eggs are supposed to be somehow different to the 'parents' that laid them, or why eggs in books on Earth aren't a problem, or why eggs in books would be different to when they're in trees.
>>62738426
I think it was described as making the occupant's body exactly as it would be from a months worth of sleep, right down to all the chemicals and all the changes the body would naturally do from sleep, including the production of eye boogers. In a way it did accelerate the body's cell production, Sleep is a time the body uses to heal itself, if the machines didn't take into account all the benefits of sleep then it wouldn't be a very effective machine.
>>62738591
>Or was it saying the pulping and everything didn't kill them because they were only unhatched eggs?
It was this
>why eggs in books would be different to when they're in trees.
In what way are they supposed to be different? What?
>>62738571
I think you're fucking retarded if you think you can just put "space" in front of a word just because it's in space. They are marines, not space marines.
>>62738607
Man, that would be pretty disgusting. You'd wake up after five minutes and have to scrape off a month's worth of dead skin cells from the surface of your whole body.
>>62738628
*It was this and to refute the claim that it was being on shelves that pissed them off. They were unhatched eggs so they survived the pulping process (I admit I didn't quote the "suvived the elaborate process of pulping wood and bleaching it" part of the first quoting) and because they only hatched there, it's not being on shelves "that pissed them the fuck off"
>>62738676
The machine does that for you. You wake up feeling refreshed, meanwhile the machines gather everything they need to generate the sandmen.
>>62738709
Yours is certainly a better explanation than the actual one written into the episode.
I was going to make a new thread but it looks like there is an old one sitting on page 10. I suggest we bring /who/ over there.
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