Everything OP, plz nerf! Edition
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pxdtigmeDY
Copypasta is still old unfortunately, newest archived version I found on google was from late March.
>Where can I find the rules?
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5203.0
>What the FUCK? What rules books do I actually need?
http://pastebin.com/6AGsum1s (Updated again)
(Short version: 2007 edition of the rulebook, 2010 Update, and Armada)
>Where can I find physical miniatures to use/proxy with?
http://pastebin.com/jC96JeMV (Updated, but still incomplete: feel free to chip in with others in-thread)
>Paper ship Proxies:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/h6zp53
http://imgur.com/a/MhFcj
(uploading more)
>Boarding action rules
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Zone_Mortalis_Expansion.pdf
See the physical models link for some appropriate options for Navy troops
>Tactics and strategy resources
[Still coming soon] [ish]
Marine Tactica underway.
IF IT AINT ORK, IT AINT GORK'N'MORK
Bump-a
Lump-a
I ordered a couple recast Imperial cruisers to add to my fleet /bfgg/. Here's some fun if you like; decide the class and name of each. They're from Battlefleet Koronus.
>>47961519
Vidi Vici Veni
Irritable Bow
Emperor's Plywood
So what would you guys recommend for my Cruiser slots for a Chaos carrier-based fleet?
Would a Carnage or a Slaughter make a better brawler to cover my other carrier ships? Or should I just go all in with Devastations for maximum BEES?
>>47962157
If you're going Bees, you might as well go for MAXIMUM BEES!
>>47961748
Your Last Hope
Golden Liver
Hold Over From Last Century
>>47962157
Get brawlers on cruiser slots so you can use them against other chaos players. With nurgle they can even go up against IN.
What do the favours on the space marine fleet do? What ships are they best on?
>>47965499
Master of forge gives +4 upgrades and chapter master -15 to enemy troop value. Put them on the battlebarges. The other two might as well not exist for how shitty they are.
>>47965459
Which brawlers would you recommend though? I know the Murder is supposed to be pretty garbage, but both the Carnage and Slaughter seem to have their strong points.
Slaughter for the higher speed and lances, and Carnage just for sheer volume of fire.
>when your ally warps out without giving you a heads up
>>47965581
Both are perfectly ok. Get one each and see which one you prefer.
I just got this gem of butt hurt
Playing with 3 Shadows, you know the non pulsar and with stargarbage cannons.
>Get close like an idiot.
>Make comment about Bombardment cannon ignores holofields.
>Shadow dies after 2 shots.
>The fucker bitches and looses two battle barge against 2 Shadows...
I had to BM
>>47965581
well do you have more trouble with orks, marines, eldar or imperials? the slaughter is great against imperials and marines, but the carnage was meant to chew up eldar fleets and does a good number to orks as well, capable of blasting them at range or getting in close with ap macros. it's slower however and tends to suffer against well shielded or armored ships.
>>47965549
>chief librarian forces mutiny at -40% to regular insubordination chance
>useless
>>47965549
>not assblasting heretic and xeno admirals with Librarian Levarian Burtonicus
>>47966092
Getting tears as the Eldar is so enjoyable. Moreso than any other faction.
>>47967665
Wouldn't Levarian Burtonicus be Master of the Forge?
>>47967991
>tfw men of iron with feline familiars are heretical
>>47965727
Worst is when they want to throw the game but don't tell you.
>>47967696
But you get so many of them it dulls the taste.
Carrier Muhreens are my new favourite salt extractor.
>>47961519
If you want to stay fluffy to Passage Watch 27-Est "Battlefleet Koronus:
>Mars class "Gryphon"
>Overlord class "Stormwind"
>Tyrant class "Drake"
>Dictator class "Warspite"
>Lunar class "Hand of Redemtion"
>Lunar class "Siris" (served at the battle of Gethsemane)
>Gothic class "Gethsemane" (paired with the Siris because naval command thought it was funny)
>Defiant class "Hawk"
>Dauntless class "Swiftsure"
and escorts wise if you get some later:
>Cobra Destroyer squadron "Wrath of Saint Drusis"
>Sword class squadron "Triumph"
>>47969623
>Dictator class "Warspite"
Not that anon, but nice.
>>47969649
My fave, but I didn't pick the names. Those are actual ships in that fleet.
>>47969649
If you expand it to Battlefleet Calixis (which 27-Est is actually part of) you get things like:
>Retribution class "Fist of Adamant"
>Apocalypse class "Tempest's Child"
>Avenger class "Fire of Heaven"
>Mars class "Chariot of Wrath"
>Overlord class "Bellicose"
>Endeavor class "Intractable"
>Endurance class "Intemperate"
Just to name a few fun ones
>>47961519
Rogue Trader?
Running RT games has got me to bust out my old IN models and buy my friends Eldar fleet he no longer wanted (Shadow, 2x Auroras, 2x Helbores, 3x Nightshades, and 3x Hemlocks for $90).
Been buying recasts from chinaman and now have about 500 points worth of chaos for pirates and a few orks eacorts.
Trying to think of a good base to kitbash Rak'Gol ships.
>>47965581
The Carnage isn't as good a brawler as the Slaughter, it's for long range macro-batteries to keep those void shields down. In terms of raw dps, the Slaughter beats the Carnage by a fair margin, and that's even before taking lance armor reduction and accuracy into account.
>>47961519
Ultima Ratio Regum
Bonus points if the captain's name is Richelieu and the ship has a Nova cannon.
So how are the Space Marines?
>>47970407
Breddy gud.
>Shitloads of armor, but jack all shields and health
>Boarding torpedoes that home in on target as long as they aren't invisible or undetected
>>47970407
Weird. Ordinance heavy, good boarding, thick armor, fast, and expensive. They seem to be about zooming in, doing their boarding stuff, and zooming away before the other guy can take advantage of the fact that he outnumbers them two to one, or three to one if he's orks.
>>47970407
Fun. They have several playstyles, all of which end with a close range Imperial Fisting. They're like Orkz but more agile and with an even greater focus on spamming assault actions. Good lance ships as well.
>>47970455
I disagree with the brawling.
They have atrocious weaponry, except for those fore mentioned lance ships lance part, but beyond that, they have significantly less cannons per side than the Imperium or even chaos.
>>47970492
True, hence why I said 'end with brawling' rather than brawl all the way. It's all about crippling the enemy from range before you close in for some astartes-on-poor-misguided-fools action.
>playing skirmish with Spess Muhreens
>finally obtain 1st Battle Barge
>vs orks
>3 vs 9
>lost 1 vanguard which I order to warp out, might have rammed to death
>kept spamming boarding torps on BB and strike cruiser
>use BB to ram the shit out of smaller ships
>BB brawl since it can ran away
>win
What the fuck
>>47970544
The Battle Barge is a monster and a beast at brawling. At least for what i have played
>>47970407
>start a new IN admiral with all the changes
>level 6
>Cruiser Clash vs Muhreens.
>all right then
>It's a battleship and two CLs.
>The barge is called the AAS Litany of Fuck You and has ten upgrades.
>TEN. UPGRADES.
>Dispose of the cruisers, lose Lunar-senpai and all of my escorts in the process.
>Litany of Fuck You has assumed position to fire everything.
>Overlord gets boarded so many times that 'boarding action success' messages flash above its burning wreck for another minute.
>Gets aftblasted with bombardment cannons anyway.
>Have a Tyrant vs that monster.
>Lose as soon as said monster is ready to go again.
Fucking Dark Angels, this is exactly why everyone thinks you're closet heretics.
>>47970583
WE. ARE. NOT!
>>47970583
Also, the reason why it had 10 upgrades is probably due to their favors.
You see, space marines have the strongest favors ever, but they can only use one per ship.
I don't have the list on my unfortunately, but here's a pic of a battle barge with the chapter master aboard.
>>47970628
I know it's not cheating, but holy shit was that ship strong.
>>47970628
>One per ship
i meant to say "They can only use one favor of same kind at all".
>>47970640
Yeah, you most likely fought against the forge master piloted ship, so it has basically as many upgrade slots as there are points put on the forge master (3 at max) plus it gives couple slots for simply existing and then there are the slots the battleship class ship already has.
Is it possible to remove a favor in a SM ship?
My curiosity got the best of me and slapped tech marine on a strike cruiser
I haven't played BFGA for a while now but I'm confused as to what the different space marine factions you select at the start do.
>>47970682
Nothing beyond determining your colour scheme, shipyard background, and namelists.
>>47970700
Oh really? Well I guess it makes sense.
Imperial Fists here I come!
>>47970708
Patrician taste, that.
Though I'm kind of annoyed that Black Templars will only get in alongside Tau.
>>47970666
Well satan, i am not certain.
Perhaps if you slapped another one on its place?
>>47965581
> tfw you love the Murder in fluff and aesthetically, but the prow lances' DPS is absolute trash, and it isn't as fast as the Slaughter.
A-At least there's the Hades to mildly make up for its glaring negatives.
>>47970666
At least you didn't put Mephiston on a light cruiser like me
>>47969453
Tell me your secrets.
SM are not clicking for me
Why are SM so vulnerable to IN? I've been steamrolling them constantly.
>>47973095
>More guns
>More health and shields with less armor over all
>More torpedoes on battleship
>More ships have lances
>Battle cruisers and Retribution have turreted lances
Some off the top of my head.
>>47972686
It's all about picking the right moment to engage. What you do is spam thunderhawks at the outliers until you kill the escorts and cripple the most threatening ships, then when they complain you're kiting instead of fighting like a man, you start fighting like a man and give them some good ol' ultraviolence. The main thing is to know when you've kited and hit-and-ran enough to have the advantage in the brawl.
>>47973521
Also, don't underestimate the two less OP favours. Chaplain is fabulous for both data recovery and assassination defense, and the mutiny test from the Librarian will, among other things, slap a -10 troop value on a ship if the mutiny goes off. Spread it around before you commit to the brawl, it'll make all those -10 muhreen assault actions land a lot more.
>>47973423
>>47973095
also
>Mars and Emperor have fighter bays
>AP ammo
Since they removed the taunt. Could they now remove the fucking annoying bombs?
BAMBARDMENT cannons or prow lances for mehreens?
>>47973736
cannons for that delicious crit rate
>>47973736
On CLs? Cannons. On everything else you get cannons anyway.
>>47973736
Bombardement cannon has insane crit chance and does neat damage.
Lances are AP.
>>47973883
cannons are turrets while lances are prow
That's what makes them better for me.
>>47974066
For me Lances tend to be great thanks to most of the enemies being SMs.
>>47973883
And it ignores holofield as I discover.
What are the essential upgrades for mehreens and what ships should you avoid?
Ah salt.
He then forced a crash booting me to the main menu without any exp.
>>47974834
belt armor, +100 shields just like everybody else
>>47974917
>shields on muhreens
>>47974911
Orks have reason to bitch, they're the worst faction in the game currently.
Nobody's forcing him to play that shit faction though.
>>47975044
>not having shields to tanks all those AP lance barrages
>>47975150
>100 more shields makes you magically resistant to lances
>>47975144
They are? Why?
I never felt them bieng shit.
>>47975184
It's +200 because it's more likely than not that the shields will recharge at least once. That's like 25% more survivability for a light cruiser which is much more than any other upgrade gives you.
That 100 extra shields saves you 75 hull points from lance damage which will absorb extra 200 damage from macros.
>>47975190
>Their guns never hit and have no armor piercing ability at all
>Ships take more damage from crit effects
>Slowest ships in the game
>Worst bombers in the game
>Speed upgrade makes you crit your engines
>Nova cannon favor makes your entire bow blow up
and others. The devs even said the nerfed the too hard.
>>47975513
They got reduced point costs recently. You can take retarded amount of ships now outnumbering them 3:2 at least.
>>47975458
>let me double the actual numbers so it looks viable on the smallest line ship
>>47975513
They do have the most broken lances, but they need upgrades.
Most of the problems with mp would be solve if everyone had level 10 ships.
Suggestions for third SM cruiser? Got two Mk2 going for boarding and more boarding.
>>47974911
>He then forced a crash
So much salt is unhealthy, doesn't he know?
>>47975044
On a vanguard you practically double your shield. On bigger class I personally like voss pattern for that 25% ignore hits. Shield recharge becomes a good option then.
>>47975513
>The devs even said the nerfed the too hard.
They acknowledge it, there's hope for a buff on orks in the future.If only GW could do the same for 40k orks
>>47975598
It's by far the best survivability upgrade. The numbers aren't that inflated. The upgrade is still good on battleships with 400 base shield because you can take shield recharge skill on them to make the extra shield much better.
>>47975662
Recharge and voss are both good. Slap both on a BB along with the recharge skill and laugh at lances.
>>47975680
>if I repeat it again and say doubling the numbers is not inflating them, it'll make it true
>>47975553
>>47975645
These two things together make Ork gameplay boil down to "Spam as many Zzaps as possible" and literally nothing else is viable. It's abysmal.
>>47975752
>I'll just keep dismissing the arguments without giving any valid reasons when multiple people int he thread agreed that shields are perfectly viable and useful on SM ships.
>>47975796
That and stasis bombs on every ship. Mass Traktor upgrades are almost compulsory too.
i fucking hate this thread. I have two fleets ready to be painted but every time i go to this thread to talk with kinsmen i see this /v/ shit and it ticks me of. Lets get physical and post some sexy space ships
FUCK
>>47975905
Get with the times old man. This thread wouldn't even exist if not for the video game.
>>47975905
Post your fucking ships the faglad
>>47975905
I have Chaos, Eldar, Space Marine, Imperial Navy, and Tyranid fleets, ranging from 500 to 2500 points and absolutely nobody to play with.
>>47975905
Got a two warhammer battle army,one for 40k back then
Threw everything when I saw you'll end up playing with shit people mostly,because people = shit basically.
Now I play Mordheim,BGA or Total war:W,in hope that W and W40K get a /v/ adaptation soon.
Been 8 years approx,seem like I'm still gonna wait
>>47975995
The things i would do to you in my mini van.
>>47975997
cant be bothered since most are sealed as received from miranda. Just painted the escort ships but i need a new primer. Also great help by posting an image yourselfgoddamn newfag. Found an old image of my tyranids which are now assembled with greenstuff and need to be primed
>>47976028
Sorry to hear that, move to France? Also what kind of tyranid fleet you have? I am kinda on the fence as to what i want to build.
>>47976161
>big blobs of modeling clay
>>47976174
>utter shit post
>no original summer
I guess it has been summer time for a couple of years now.
>>47976161
>Mfw I'm not sure if this man is a genius or a retard
>>47976161
>Also what kind of tyranid fleet you have?
Erm... 2 Forgeworld hive ships, 3 FW cruisers, and lots of proxies for the smaller stuff. Haven't played the fleet in something like 11 years, and it's been sitting in a box since 2008.
Speaking of TT, what's a good IN complement to a Daemonhunter inquisitorial cruiser and two GK strike cruisers?
I hate when people force the menu.
When will the devs patch that fucking thing and punish those bastard. Like I don't know remove all their renown, all their favours, skills and upgrades.
So they have to grind the fuck back.
Is a Brawler Barge a viable option?
Besides the obvious slap the tech marine so it get lots of upgrades.
>>47978928
What's that? So far, I only got fun, intelligent people as opponents.
>>47980428
I'm going to share the salt. There is a Particular guy that constantly crashes to main menu when loosing.
Here we can see an educated player.
Sure Orkz got nerf a lot, but really he bitches because he can't adapt?
>>47980658
But he's right, at low levels Orks are trash. Weirdboy tower doesn't help you stop being kited.
>>47980729
Still no excuse for the BM and being a bitch.
I have more of him, somehow the game loves to pair me with him no matter what level my fleets are. Eldar, IN, Orkz, Chaos, SM.
Ok orkz suck at lo level. But really?
>>47980795
You're right, there's no point bitching at your opponent. Just take the loss and move on. Or force-close the game to grind renown faster and climb out of the orks-auto-lose hole, whatever.
>>47980845
Or just don't play orks unless you literally enjoy suffering.
Like stab-yourself-in-the-eye type suffering.
>>47980845
Funny thing here, he manage to trakktor beam my Deathstalker to death.
Crash the game into the menu... Really? Warp out of Capitulate and move on.
But being a dick to a random person is not cool.
>>47980910
It's ironic that Eldar are actually Orkz' strongest matchup.
Even then it's still a huge crapshoot as to whether or not the Ork player can pick off the ships he needs to let him win through attrition.
The faction is just in a bad spot overall.
Is Battlefleet Gothic one of the specialist games GW is going to revive?
>>47980910
>save all niggery from this faggot
>give to steam
>watch as he catches a ban because they have rules in place against this sort of shit
ez
>>47982658
Nice didn't knew about that. Going to check it out.
>>47976625
Anything packing torpedoes.
>>47982073
Supposed to be. I'm pretty stoked for all of them personally.
This is gonna sound really fucking dumb, but how do you chat? I'm fairly new to PC games in general and I want to tell the over-the-shoulder-boardin-torpedo-holders to fight me like men, not faggots in tinfoil
>IN playing against Eldar
>hides in the farthest corner of the map and makes me spend 5 minutes trekking across the map to get him
>we play tag around and asteroid field until I isolate and fuck up one of his escorts
>still running away, but randomly runs in with a single ship, only to get BTFO'd multiple times
>he tries to warp out, prow lance him to death first
That last impact felt so, so good. Why are Eldar players still such faggots?
>>47984674
They're just being in character.
>no persistent fleet locations or deployment
>no strategic fleet movement whatsoever
>no persistent damage
>no formations
>no strategy
>skirmishes just a series of chaotic knife-fights
>campaign just a series of look-alike skirmishes strung together with character-less cinematics.
I'm pretty disappointed in this game, /bfgg/. It feels like they phoned it in. I won't deny that I've had some fun playing it, but they had the potential to do so much more with the material, and it seems like they just couldn't be bothered.
>>47976208
It fix the ships with blue tag to see how I want to model everything. Afterwards I use the greenstuff
>>47984674
>when you wipe out a squadron of eldar escorts with a high speed turn
Thank the Emprah
you know what I would really love?
To not face fucking space marines every single fucking match
Should I trust the Eldar Prince?
>finally unlock barge
>cant take it out to play because of the asinine 300 point limit on 2v2
>Friend tells me co-op vs AI is in
>Played a bit in beta and haven't touched since.
>Eldar are new to me. Let's try them out how bad can it be.
>Buddy brings his high tier Imperial Battleship with space marine standard/whatever.
>...the fuck you mean no shields...the fuck you mean keep moving...the fuck you mean forward arc only guns...
>How the fuck are you supposed to fly these things?
>..did...did that fleet ship just die to an escort?
>OH GOD I SUCK SO MUCH AT ELDAR
>My entire fleet and my friends 1 escort ship are burned to death by orcs.
>My buddies battleship proceeds to solo the rest of the enemy fleet.
>It's like watching a fat kid bellyflop into a kiddypool of cake.
Then I switched to Space Marines for the next couple of co-op skirmishes we did. I was shocked to find out that their ships are weak in direct combat. I have no idea what I'm doing but I figured it was a story worth telling.
>>47985900
Get a load of this heretic
>>47985900
I'd like to have teammates would actually play the game. 80% of my teammates just right click enemy blib and then proceed to afk until they are at attack range. Thus enemy has scouted his ships and bombarded them to shit with torps that he just could not be assed to dodge
>>47985983
Yes, you get another deployment, as well as VOID COMBAT STRATEGY in the final mission if you finish all missions in that chain.
>>47986718
>At Gethesmane
>Eldrathain rams the planet killerhead on with pulsars blazing
>right as the bug red line finishes charging
>actually manages to push the planet killer into a asteroid field
Rip you dumb glorious knifeear
>>47987066
With me he always rushed to the left flak and rammed chaos cruisers till he buggered off.
>eagle heads on battlebarge with chapter master do not count for ramming hitbox
BULLSHIT
>>47987705
According to Tactica Imperialis, annotated by Admiral Spire, it's not a ramming action if the entire eagle isn't inside of the enemy ship.
>>47987825
Battle Barge HMS Just the Beak when.
>>47987882
Never. You need the full thing. It's for thinging thingies.
What's the biggest thing you've killed with an escort?
>>47979617
Yes, the BB are their only brawler anyway.
>>47986110
Losing is how you learn.
>>47988875
2 Battle Barges with an Eldar Escort. (The one with pulsar and torpedo)
The other guy rages calls me a nigger and proceeds to crash the game into the main menu.
I really should report that faggot
>>47979617
It's the only option. It's a brick, it can't run or manoeuvre its way out of a brawl. Luckily it pack some of the best brawling weapons in the game (in turrets as well!) and a mean torpedo spread.
>>47988875
Rammed an Eldar BB from almost dead to very dead with a Sword.
>>47989143
So the heavy lance version is rather useless with chapter master?
>>47989324
You'll probably won't get consistent damage out of those lances when brawling, so you might as well pack torpedoes for the times when something passes across your fore. Plus muhreens get homing boarding torpedoes.
>>47988875
Had a wolf-pack of escorts hound a Chaos BC to death a while ago. Was playing IN, enemy was more concerned with putting fire on my line ships.
If they made a new edition of bfg, would you want new models?
I would love to have a detailed retribution class battleship the size of a land raider
>>47989617
Yes, but keeping the scale of the models and the size of engagement so it doesn't become an unwieldy mess like modern 40k.
>>47984845
dog there are 15 devs. dunno what to tell you. they started with even less, maybe 10.
>>47988875
Despoiler.
Sword didn't survive the collision, but the heretics didn't escape.
Last two ships on the map, won despite both doing at once.
>>47986110
Not to defend the balance mess that the game is right now.
But StarCraft Brood War took 10 fucking years to balanced out. Yes the fucking game that pretty much made esport popular.
>>47970455
Are the Space Marine Lances actually any good? I never bothered with them because I don't tend to like prow weapons
We should start a gentlment agreement.
If someone ask for warp out, let them warp out.
Suggestions? Hate? Git Gud?
>>47982073
>>47984534
inb4 "We're bringing back Battlefleet Gothic! But we've changed the scale for the new models by 4mm. Sorry not sorry!"
>>47990420
They're as good as IN lances while being prow-mounted, but they're not as good as a launch bay. They also run somewhat counter to the playstyle. Still, they are useful under specific circumstances, such as chasing or lighting orkz/muhreens up, even if you don't build a fleet around them.
>>47990617
>>47975905
Keep strong brother. I'll post some content from my Imperial Navy tabletop stuff in one of the coming generals.
>>47990617
I always let nice people warp out. unless you were a prick, an idiot or brought a void stalker I'll let you get away. and in that last case I only ever murder the stalker
>>47969797
Nope, I just really dig the vibe of Battlefleet Koronus! Using them for RT is a great idea though. Hmm, a BFG narrative campaign in the Calixis sector would also be cool...
>>47990695
>not maximizing your renown gain
Despite our best efforts chivalry seems to be alive. Lads, fire the lance battery again.
>>47965727
>playing against an ork and a sm as space marine/IN
>taking heavy damage while my ally gets separated
>lose my vanguard and manage to run off with a strike cruiser
>ally chasing down one ork ship to a corner
>everything looks like we're losing hard
>the ork ship starts exploding while my ally is powering up warp
>insubordinate captain on all the other ork ships
>ally cancels warp and starts boosting towards me full speed
and then we went and won that game
>2v2
>end up Chaos and Ultramarines vs double IN
>solitary battle barge
>erewego.png
>FEAR NOT LOYAL CITIZENS, TIS I, CATO SICARIUS
>mad bastard just boosts in the middle of the enemy fleet, trusting in Ward
>standoff and lance escorts so he can concentrate on the actual threats
>manages to cripple five line ships before booking it
>I, CATO SICARIUS, WILL RETURN AFTER THIS SHORT BREAK
>warps out with ten fires and most systems crippled
>>47980910
I'm still having trouble fighting eldars with my low level SM fleet.
>1 strike cruiser with ordonnance, 2 vanguard with torpedoes.
>eldar with fully upgraded pulsar BB
>loses a vanguard immediately, vaporized
>proceed to warp out, seeing how I will lose
>eldarfag proceed to call me weak and faggot for warping
I'm not sure what eldarfags want, if they lose they cry about it and when they win they cry about it
>>47991352
Just force quit. It's a dick move but the only way to make Eldar faggots suffer
>>47991638
It warms my cold wraithbone heart to see this level of aftblasted even here.
>>47991638
When people BM, sure BM back.
But for the love of the Emperor don't force quit when losing, the game balance is already a mess and preventing people from leveling up is a dick move.
>>47990617
If you ask for a warp out, I'm going to go the extra mile to make sure you don't
>>47990617
Only when i play IN
With all the marines wanking around maybe I'll start a chaos fleet with all those sweet OP and broken lances.
>>47992331
>chaos
>not ork zzap kannonz
You a git or something?
>>47992345
Low level honey, low level.
We know orkz are decent at higher levels, but low? Poor zods.
>>47992406
>implying
The weedy grotz are the only ones that stay low level for long
>>47992497
45 wins to get max level on a ship.
Sure sure.
>>47991638
>I have such a big chip on my shoulder I want to ruin the game for all parties because I don't like a faction
Kill yourself mon-keigh filth.
>>47990617
>be me, IN player
>always being nice, let people catch their pieces and gtfo
>suddenly, unlucky match
>other player fucking obliterates my fleet
>start chat-shitting on me
How one can believe in humanity like this?!
So this might be a dumb question, but how exactly does Belt Armor function?
Does it simply negate the first critical damage against each system once per match, or the first critical damage from every attack?
>>47993265
It's the first critical on any system, and only 1 crit, you basically get a message that the belt armor has been hit.
>>47990617
>Letting xenos/heretics/loyalists escape alive
That's not very 40K of you.
How do I report people in steam?
At this point is only spite.
What are peoples thoughts on asteroid shields? Given how varied the maps can be I don't really know if they're worth the investment.
Also opinions on Lance Shield Damage upgrades on ships with twin linked macro/lance batteries? Worth it for downing shields faster, or better to just let the macros handle it?
>>47995421
What race?
>>47995521
Chaos
>>47995421
I feel linked batteries are pretty bad off in the vidya because you need separate upgrades for them.
I'd go with pure ships, or upgrade other stuff.
>>47995421
Not really worth it as IN. You can go around just fine.
>>47995421
lunar and slaughter are both good ships. just get ap and shield depletion and focus on defensive upgrades. lunar is a good solid all arounder and the gothic just kinda blows. astroid is really only good with void predator for eldar
/bfg/ discord when?
>playing orks in cruiser clash defense
>as usual against SM
>as usual his plan is to sit back and spam torpedoes
>hide in a cloud
>murder his scouting escorts as they approach
>the moron didn't bring any augur probes
>wait as he's forced to bring his precious BB in range
>drop a stasis bomb in front of him
>he fires up engines to retreat
>chain traktor beam him into the middle of the bomb
>zzap him to death with great delight
>he starts whining how orks are OP and hope they get nerfed
>tries to run his last line ship away to warp out
>shokk cannon interrupts his warp
>zzap motherfucker
Don't blame me, the devs made me play this way.
>>47997001
Now you understand Eldar players. Pulsar Spamming 12k range was the only way.
If people can't deal with Eldar being restricted to 9k and 6k with upgrades. Well it is sad.
>>47997052
I still haven't met an Eldar since I was like admiral level 2 on my Orks. I have a feeling mass Zzaps will annihilate them as soon as they try to fire on any ork ship.
>excited to play the game
>as I start playing remember I'm fucking terrible at RTS and even worse at micro
>>47998532
Right click skills to let the game auto-cast them for you.
>>47998532
youll be fine for the single player campaign
>>47998560
>>47998570
thanks for helping my stupid ass out
What's the best cruiser to get as IN? I've tried out the dictator and the Gothic, but neither of them seem to be doing it for me
>>47998711
LUNAR
>>47995421
Asteroid shields are great for transports and carriers.
On transports it allows you to keep moving straight and will royally fuck up escorts in pursuit. With carriers just park inside an asteroid field and let loose with ordnance.
I usually only take the Lance shield upgrade thing on escorts that prioritize the lance like the firestorms or novas. Otherwise the Gothic
>>47998711
>>47998840
Lunar is excellent if you want an support cruiser. Give it bombs and support skills like shield transfer and upgrades for torpedoes and macro accuracy then have it hover around 6k and support a close-in a brawler like the tyrant.
I usually engage in bands:
>AP brawler tyrant at 3k
>support kitted lunar at 6k
>Lance range and anti-shield boosted Gothic at 9k
>>47996047
>discord
How's your botnet?
>>47998711
DOMINATOR
ALL YOU EVER NEED
