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4-attack dreadnoughts are Official Houserules - edition
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>FAQs
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>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
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>Forgeworld Book index
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>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD
>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
S10 confirmed, as expected.
As usual, let's start this general with some bingo
Praised be Johnny!!
>>47788198
Okay, maybe I'm not oldfagging hard enough, but whose Johnny and why should I give a fuck?
>>47788195
Fuck it, Free tile for today is now Games Workshop itself getting the rules wrong.
>Orks are a melee race!
>I2
>>47788190
We now have a precedent that if one piece of wargear grants +1 S and the other doubles, you apply +1 first because that's a "new profile."
>>47788219
Johnny is the mascot of the /wip/ board. He's a rogue trader marine that holds a bolter magazine up to his ear, presumably so that the magazine can whisper dark secrets to him. It's often captioned as such, with the bolter magazine inciting him to murder.
>>47788224
HA HA
TIME FOR 5A DEATH COMPANY DREADS
8A ON THE CHARGE
I made what is intended to be a thematic Samm-Hain Eldar list, though I'm not sure if it's too cheesy.
I went with shuriken weapons on the Windrider formation because I want to get milage out of the bonus rule, and I prefer Shuriken cannons to Scatterlasers.
I'm torn between Scatterlasers and Starcannons on the Hornets, Starcannons because I could uses some reliable anti heavy infantry/MC/light vehicle weapons (and to dodge the scatterlaser stigma) on the other hand, Scatter lasers come cheaper so i won't need to tear though the list to find to the extra 30 points (and there's something satisfying about the idea of 3 hornets blazing in and unleashing 32 shots of scatterlaser hell on the enemy flank/rear)
++ Eldar Craftworlds (1849pts) ++
+ Core (1199pts) +
Windrider Host
Farseer Skyrunner [The Spirit Stone of Anath'lan, Witchblade]
Vyper Squadron
3xVyper [Shuriken Cannon, Shuriken Cannon]
Warlock Skyrunner Conclave
4xWarlock with Singing Spear
6x Windrider w/ Twin-linked
3x Windrider w/ Shuriken Cannon
Windrider Warlock [Witchblade]
6x Windrider w/ Twin-linked
3x Windrider w/ Shuriken Cannon
Windrider Warlock [Witchblade]
6x Windrider w/ Twin-linked
3x Windrider w/ Shuriken Cannon
Windrider Warlock [Witchblade]
+ Auxiliary (650pts) +
Crimson Death
Crimson Hunter Exarch [2x Bright Lance]
2xCrimson Hunter [2x Bright Lance]
Hornet Swarm [FW]
3xHornet [2x Scatter Laser]
>>47788234
You're still confusing +1 and 1 point increase to stat line.
It isn't BODMAS, its not even in the order of operations, its just their new statline.
They don't go S4 + 1 for wargear x 2, it goes S5 x 2. They never stop being S5.
>>47788244
I remember when that honour was held by chaos lord rapedrill.
So now we know what happened to Commander Chenkov. He got promoted to Commissar Chenkov, and started leading scions with exactly the same tactics as he used with guardsmen.
>>47788289
A form of unending tide is nice for the IG, glad they got this.
>>47788224
Space Wolves Wulfen Edition was put up a few months ago, after C:SM and DA.
Why didn't we get the official update for A4 too...
I know any decent people will play "Roused to war" and that's cool, but I obsessively prefer something to be official, even if that is an autistic mindset.
>>47788224
They didn't get the rules "wrong", they failed to use an errata correctly. Not quite the same thing, though the result is the same.
>>47788255
As Death Company should be
>>47788244
TIL. Thanks!
>>47788256
Ah, that looks a lot better than the pixels in the OP image.
You guys think a mechanized Tau army would be fun? All infantry, skimmers, flyers and drones, no suits. For casual games obviously. I'm thinking of trying something like this.
>>47788268
Okay, so how do you determine which wargear changes the "base" statline, and which the "final" statline then?
>>47788324
Absolutely not.
>mfw I realise that I can build an entire Gladius Strike Force out of Betrayal at Calth if I just buy one more fast attack option
What's the best choice? I don't really like bikes and from what I hear, ASM are a waste of money in 7th.
>>47788323
it's a cute meme
>>47788324
go for it, it'll be less hated then suit spam but idk if it's viable. i fought some hammerheads in my last game but my foe got frustated with them because he couldn't kill my seeker chariot until turn 3 when i finally failed a 5++
>>47788224
What a bunch of faggots they are. Appalling ineptitude. I dont see how anyone but waac Tau, Eldar, and SM fags give them money.
>>47788378
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you actually do need assault marines in a gladius.
>>47788396
You do.
>>47788396
No, but you can.
>1 Assault Squad, Bike Squad, Attack Bike Squad, unit of Land Speeders or Centurion
Assault Squad
>Centurion
Assault Squad
Did that ever work?
I'm kind of lost, Battle brothers and detachments and all that thing.
If I want to make lets say Marines as my main army I would need HQ and 2 troops. That would be a combined arms? and in order to add lets say Imperial Guard. I would need 1 HQ and 1 Troop as an allied?
Or I'm missing something.
Always throught Tau could be fun as a mobile shooty force instead of a static gunline. Do Breachers make this possible, or are suits still the only way to do this?
>>47788224
Literally nothing wrong with this
>>47788424
Yeah you're right. 1 HQ 2 troops would have to be deployed as a combined arms detachment.
Any allied detachments need 1 HQ and 1 troop minimum.
>>47788378
Maybe a landspeeder?
Cool models and you can put two multimeltas into murder-range quick, or two heavy flamers.
>>47788424
I swear this should be our cover image, every single thread.
>>47788425
the closer you are the easier it is to get punched in the face. there's a few anons that chime in every now and again with success doing a sneaky non suit list
>>47788234
daily reminder that nobs on the charge with a klaw are still only str 9, and cant double out thunderwolves.
>>47788424
So you've got four kinds of detachments you can use:
>Combined Arms
>Allied
>Faction-Specific ("Decurions")
>Formation
You can use any combination of the above. The only limitation on this is that an Allied Detachment can't be your only detachment, can't have your Warlord in it, and can't be out of the same Codex as your Warlord. You can have your Warlord in any of the other detachment types.
If you have any units that aren't in a detachment, your army is "Unbound" and you lose the benefits of CADs and ADs, although you keep the benefits of Decurions and Formations.
>>47788425
>Always throught Tau could be fun as a mobile shooty force instead of a static gunline. Do Breachers make this possible, or are suits still the only way to do this?
Suits are the only way to do it well, Breachers are ridiculously short-ranged, yoru practicly have to BE on top of th eenemy unit to get any reliabl elkilling done.
The best way to use breachers as a mobile shooty force is stupidly enough to put them on the Tau moving gunline fortification, which doubles the range of their powerful shot.
>>47788481
>Cool models and you can put two multimeltas into murder-range quick
Hadn't even considered the possiblity of adding multimeltas. Thanks anon!
>>47788296
It's fucking weird that it's the elite units that get the ability. As someone who always fields at least one squad of conscripts and was dumb enough to buy the montka book for formations, this pisses me off.
>>47788303
>decent people
nice justification. I can just see you playing orks now with your bullshit wulfen and thunderwolves charging 42 inches turn one.
"come on, bro. If you dont let my dreads have as many attacks as yours and be better at everything else in every concievable way too, your being a douche."
fuck your dreadnaught and your shit. Enjoy 2A forever.
>>47788422
They're pretty brutal in a Land Raider. Pricey, though.
>>47788289
This is exactly what I was hoping for
Time for infinite melta!
>>47788234
Gifts of chaos
They modify the stat line just like thundercav
Chaos will finally have their day, all because the space yiffs couldn't stop yapping
>>47788561
Wait for guard codex update
Does anyone have the miniwargaming gorkamorka campaign rules?
>>47788594
they will just argue that its a boon, not wargear, and does not work like their special snowflake equipment does.
>>47788641
http://www.miniwargaming.com/gorkamorka
i literally just copy/pasted your request into google.
>>47788289
If used this formation would I use the IG codex for them or the scions codex?
Or are they the same in both? I really want to pick this started set up now.N-Not because it's powerful or a-anything, I'm not a WAAC fag!
Can someone please post all the new FAQ rulings?
>>47788704
Predicting "lol but i'm on phon :DDD"
>>47788522
>>47788481
>>47788457
Awesome I could finally use my Repentias for something.
Stormraven raining bondage girls into the enemy lines.
>>47788261
Honestly if you are taking anything other than pulsars on your hornets you're a mad man
Gonna start a Space Marine collection. My local meta is full of people who want to have fun so I'm thinking about abusing that byGoing full 5th Edition by deploying loads of tactical marines, devastators and assault marines to have fun with them
>>47788706
It's MT, but it doesn't really matter since you can take a formation from one faction and a CAD from another.
>>47788704
>pay money to get the rules
>>47788711
How new?
There are more than 50 pages of them in all.
>>47788724
Jesus fuck, didn't even notice those.
...Why are star cannons even an option?
Better in every way at same price.
>>47788729
You mad man
>>47788720
They can't assault after using Grav-Chute Insertion, because it uses the Deep Strike rule. The Stormraven has to enter Hover Mode to use the Assault Ramp.
>>47788706
Scions Codex.
Which means that, you may be able to upgrade the Commissar into a Lord Commissar since it's an upgrade to their wargear and statline instead of a different model.
>>47788720
I've got bad news friend...
>>47788749
If you have to pay money to get those rules, you might want to get an adblocker m8.
>>47788758
>How new?
The ones from >>47788224 onward, I guess. Is that not a new page?
>>47788730
>>47788781
I'm just asking because I don't have the scions codex which could be a set back but don't they have the relevant codex entries in the start collecting kit?
>>47788773
>>47788785
God fucking damn it. Any other Assault vehicle? Landraider Crusader? The one back from the Armageddon Codex
>>47788729
>Going full 5th Edition by deploying loads of tactical marines, devastators and assault marines to have fun with them
So a Gladius.
Welcome to the herd.
I was looking to buy some imperial guard models and does anyone know if plasma/melta guns come in any of the boxes besides the command squads.
>3 Centurion Devastators are 60 Euros
>>47788803
No.
Source: I own the IG Starter box.
>>47788813
LR's only yeah, enjoy paying more for the box then the chocolates.
>>47788565
You sound fun. Tons of friends and active social life I assume?
>>47788224
>your opponents can still say no
>>47788826
>Wanting Dev Cents
>Being cancer
>>47788781
Time to buy a bunch of those and run them all with Lord Commissars!
Hallelujah it's raining men!
>>47788863
I don't wanna grav spam to deal with heavily armored dudes.
>>47788803
The formation is in the Start Collecting box, not the Codex. That's why it's news.
>>47788813
Any Assault Vehicle or Open-Topped transport will let them Assault after disembarking. Your problem is with Deep Strike, not Assault Vehicle.
Also, I should point out that you can't start the game in a Battle Brother's transport. You have to start them separately on the table and then load up.
>>47788826
A single 35 point mek gun is 46$
>>47788887
And I hate it because they look beautiful.
>>47788883
>Dev Cents
>Not Grav Spam
>>47788224
>"until such a time they are updated"
>space wolves recently got an update
>still A2
>"we have no idea what we're doing so just house rule it LOL"
Why even bother paying for rulebooks.
I suppose I should be surprised that GW rule writers are stupid, lazy shits.
>>47788884
So a Stormraven could work. I want to make "Zoom" sounds when moving it, while "Broom" sounds with the Landraider are cool is not as fun.
The problem would be to have the Repentia wait for their ride.
>>47788931
>>47788224
And why didn't they officially errata it?
>>47788950
And to have them stand around a turn in enemy firing range before being allowed to assault.
>>47788931
Furries already get enough toys though, they don't need 4A dreads
>>47788887
Well, time for chinaman I guess because unless that thing is made of gold it is in no way in hell worth that.
>>47788959
Damn it. How the hell I can make use of the bloody bondage girls.
>>47788971
To use dreads they'd have to give up some of their best toys so they have the points, we want to encourage them way from their worst shit.
>>47788989
Land raiders are your only option that doesn't make them worse on the table.
>>47788884
Talking about assault vehicles and deepstrike why the hell are drop pods open-topped vehicles? i mean its not like anything can reembark after its landed and its not like you can assault from it since it can only be embarked upon deep strike. unless i'm forgetting a rule that makes them special i cant fathom why they are open-topped.
>>47789012
If I remember my old school warhammer I would need two landraiders with two full squad of repentias to not suck that much.
>>47789034
They blow up easier.
>>47789034
To make them easier to destroy after they land, it's supposed to be a way to balance it.
Also, it's opened topped because it's open, it's fluffy.
>>47789034
It's just there to weaken them a little.
>>47789034
They are only open topped after they land, you know when all the doors are open exposing it's insides.
>>47788950
Here's how this is going to work:
>Stormraven enters the battlefield in hover mode on turn 2, flies to where your 6+ Repentia are cowering in fear
>Repentia load up
>Stormraven Zooms to your target on turn 3
>Stormraven enters hover mode on turn 4, deploying Repentia
>Repentia assault
>Stormraven gets nuked now that it's essentially a Chimera alone in the middle of the enemy
>Turn 5, Repentia maybe get to assault another unit, game ends
Is it really worth it?
>>47789034
Because they open up....
>>47789072
>>47789070
>>47789067
>>47789066
Thank you all i guess i was just being an autist this morning and couldnt remember that they are easier to destroy because of it.
>>47788888
>Manage quints for the first time ever on site
>Old thread
Such is life when you're a newb...
>>47789060
>If I remember my old school warhammer
Don't
If it's not 7th it's just muddying the waters.
>>47789097
>Giving a fuck about post numbers
Newb isn't the worst word I'd use.
>>47789089
yea but when has GW ever done anything else because it fit the fluff?
>>47789076
Just give Sisters a Stormraven equivalent
>>47789103
Just wondering if I would need two tanks in 7th as I needed back in third.
>>47789135
They TRY to be fluffy.
Try.
I mean, it is there excuse for the rules being so unbalanced.
"Because Orks and Chaos mortal are shit lol!"
>>47789153
What could that be? Since you have to wait with the girls outside in the dark for their ride to arrive.
>>47789134
Was born in 88, the number pleases me.
>>47789153
I would be happy if Sisters got a pretty much anything equivalent. We established a couple days ago that Sisters of Battle haven't had a full model line update since they were introduced 20 years ago.
>>47788758
Yeah pulsars are criminally under costed, if you can run then as single units thats great too
Alright, /tg/, I'm primarily a KDK player that, but I can also run a pure demon list using mostly Khorne daemons, relying on how expensive Demon Princes are to eat up points, and my small handful of Tzeentch daemons. When I field KDK, I've largely become the cliche "ork player" in that everyone has fun fighting me but I tend to lose. That's great and all, but I feel constrained by the limitations on the army due to the formation/decurion requirements (possessed tax, MoK tax, 2 bikers etc..) and I'm looking to bone up more on a pure daemons list. Most of the players in my group are Space Marine players, but one of them is a Necron gunline army that I have absolutely no way of handling currently and another player uses multiple knights, which I don't own enough anti-armor to make a serious dent in (other than a D-thirster). I have a good amount of khorne daemons already but I've been reading up on Nurgle and Tzeentch daemons and like a lot of what I see.
So in the interests of more efficiently spending my money, any daemon players here have some advice for me for how to expand my daemon list or have any good lists that can be used as a template in order to compete a little better in this Space Marine run world? I currently own the following:
- Herald of Tzeentch x 1 (no disc)
- Pink Horrors x 30 (got a deal on a bundle)
- Screamers x 3
- 1 Defiler I proxy as a Soul Grinder sometimes
I'd like to expand on the Tzeentch daemons in particular without entirely devolving into summon spam (emphasis on entirely) as I don't currently generate enough warp charges to be as durable or shooty as I'd like, but wouldn't say no to working in some Nurgle if they can be reasonably worked in depending how large the game is.
TLDR: I'd like build a workable Tzeentch daemon (with possibly some Nurgle) list, what advice do you have?
PS: Is there any validity at all to these rumors about a Tzeentch daemonkin codex/new LoC model?
>>47789161
Depends how many you need to move.
Land raiders have variants now, with the oldschool lascannon godhammer, the double rapeflamer version with 12 seats, the bolters on bolters on bolters version with 16, the super delux version with 20 seats and immunity to meltas as well as as all of other more gun oriented versions with les emphasis on transportation.
>>47789650
well you need a skullcannon for sure, i'm surprised you don't have one already. if you hate the model grab a juggernaut, 2 blood letters and a cannon on wheels for a conversion.
if you're going for more tzeentch then you'll want fateweaver or lord of change. burning chariots are av 10/10/10 3hp but a torrent flamer or d3 lascannon shots at the right moment are damn good.
>>47789717
Oh, I didn't list my Khorne daemons. I got the start collecting khorne box when I made my KDK army (10 blood letters, blood throne/skull cannon, 3 blood crushers). I also own 2 bloodthirsters (1 D, 1 vanilla), a demon prince from my CSM days, and 20 flesh hounds.
Does anybody have the VASSAL module for this game? I've started thinking about getting into 40k, but I'd like to try the game out to see if i actually enjoy the game before I invest a ton of money into the figures.
>>47789799
Go to your local Games Workshop. They have test games set up for prospective players.
Are barebones Land Speeders decent? I need to trim 30 points off my list for it to be 1000 pts. and I'm thinking about ditching two Land Speeder multi-meltas.
Are OSCs really op for Tau? I have 1 ghostkeel already and was looking to getting stealthsuits and a Shadowsun but don't wanna be that guy.
Is this better/worse than the Riptide wing I've been told to avoid?
>>47789960
Do you really want to pay 45 pts for 1 Hbolter or Hflamer?
>>47788289
I found their new themesong
https://youtu.be/z48NmdWbquw
>>47790068
Guess not. So I'll cut one Land Speeder and its melta and just deploy a single multi-melta LS.
>>47789034
Gives that auto +1 for explodes roll
What model has a good power maul I could put on a guardsman?
>>47790188
Ravenwing Command Squad has a studded club/tetsubo-type weapon, see if your local Dark Angels players will trade or give you that bit
Or hit up bits sites
>>47790188
The Militarum Tempestus sprue comes with a pretty sick power maul as seen here
>>47789987
you can shoot a leman russ in the ass completely avoiding that nice av14 in the front
>>47789768
you're not in bad shape then. maybe a burning chariot as well. with daemons you'll always struggle with anti tank, at least i do. gifts are damn amazing. i got the beam gift last game and immobilized longstrike, it helped but longstrike was gonna get smashed anyway
>>47788565
Fucking no way dude. I'm talking about playing my friends who use marines, blood angels, chaos / lost and the damned and dark angels.
Just so we are all on even ground.
You have a pretty negative outlook on life to jump to an assumption that I use only the "best" units and not fun ones I like.
Why would I even be wanting to play my dreads if I was That Guy? they aren't very good but I adore them as they have been my fondest and most iconic unit to play for the past 15 years since I was 10.
I know orkz are in the shit and also they are typically the funnest players when I have faced them at a club when I used to go, so I wouldn't throw waac in their faces, not my style ever.
>>47790113
But that's false, they stop after 6 turns.
>>47788224
How is this gettting the rules wrong?
I can see how it would be something that people wouldn't like, but I fail to see where this is 'getting the rules wrong'.
If I run a combi-bolter in an Imperial Fists formation, reroll a die which ends up being a 1, can I reroll again?
>>47790515
You can never re-roll a re-roll. Pretty sure that's in the BRB.
>>47790515
Nope. The big rule book has a strict rule that you can NEVER reroll a reroll under any circumstances.
>>47790558
>>47790566
Would be broken I guess. Especially with doctrines.
>>47788224
Does this mean Furioso is no longer the go to Dread for BA?
>>47790669
Drop
Templates everywhere
5 WS5 attacks on the charge if you survive that turn...
Ups and downs.
What Legion tactics would you give to the undivided Chaos Legions, if that was something you would like to do?
>>47788851
>He plays iron hands
>>47790850
Which one?
There are more undivided than dedicated legions
>>47788344
The SW have a thunderwolf unit independent from the lord, the best thing they could have done was making a separate stats for wgbl and wolf lord mounted on thunderwolves.but also to fuck over the csm fags with exalted champion and lords with juggernaut mount
>>47790946
The Word Bearers, Iron Hands, Alpha Legion, Black Legion and Dark Angels. The Undivided Legions.
>>47791012
>Iron Hands
>Dark Angelsnicely memed
>>47791012
>Iron Hands
>Dark Angels>Alpha Legion
>>47791012
>Iron Hands
Don't you mean Iron Warriors?
>>47790913
I play BA and I don't know how many players will be dicks because the army book says 2 attacks and GW's statement is to homerule it with your oppenent's permision.
>>47791030
>>47791052
>>47791056
I missed out the Night Lords.
>>47788971
>Complaining about dreadnoughts on the age of D eldars
Fuck off, I'll use 3++ dreadnoughts and you'll have to shove it down your throat.
>>47791100
Which I doubt many players would do. I'm know my friend wouldn't mind but it sounds like there's a mess of WAAC fags out there.
>>47788971
but dreads suck even with 4 attacks
>>47790850
there's so much i wanna do for chaos i might as well write up a fandex
>>47791177
>>47791153
Formation of 5 venerable dreads with shields as a unit, all facing different directions so you always hit front armour no matter what.
Crowded around the formation's Techmarine.
Call them the Knot of Russ.
>>47791249
i want to believe
>>47791153
>being a pissy bitch that someone else got s buff
Go cry into your cum-stained beard, furry
>>47791280
>Making jokes you have to be furry trash to understandI lol'd
>>47791249
damn you anon, why must you bring up my hopes just to crush them?
>>47790188
Skitarri Alpha power maul fits nicely
>>47788845
I was going to insert a "your mom thinks im fun" joke here but it was too easy.
Like your mom.
>>47791302
>Eldars are perfectly balanced faggots gid gud
Eldar players everybody you can't make this shit up.
>>47791514
I run only guardians and dire avengers and a fire prism.Sometimes I take dark reapers or warp spiders because theyre fun
>>47788289
>scion
Awesome!! Anyone have the chaos one?
>>47791323
I-I'm sorry anon, I only wanted to give you some ideas for your fandex.
>>47791578
You really don't want to know. Don't do it. You will only be disappointedthe CSM get Hatred when the Lord's around
>>47791566
>It's actually an eldar player
Go be a fag somewhere else cancer trash
>>47791592
>Literally giving out Hatred
Oh god, they're self-aware.
>>47791607
Show me on the doll where the Wraithknight hurt you
>>47791648
>It's not my fault I like to play the most game breaking unbalanced codex just because I'm a pay to win WAAC faggot.
Sure thing sunshine
>>47791719
Not the game guy. I play Orks and Guard.
>>47791592
Sigh... SIGH.... GOD DAMN IT!! Looks like my Hellbrute is going to keep hanging around his cultist buddies.
What's the most competitive Space Marine list there is right now?
>>47791719
Different Eldar player, but I got into eldar because I'm a fan of the lore, after learning about 40k from a rogue trader campaign.
Bought my first minis before codex, and right before the latest codex dropped.
I've played enough games that I WTFed about a lot of the stuff I read there. Good thing the lore I liked was the aspect warriors, and thought the warp spiders looked like balls.
Even more lucky, because I wanted some transports, and Wave Serpents got brought down from completely broken to just really good.
Talking with the other eldar players in the area, no one liked the broken changes, with the closest thing to a WAAC argument being that one guy thinks the Wraithknight is only 50pts undercost, while the rest of us think it's 100pts.
Is it worth taking a gladius if you're not doing the double demi-company?
>>47791607
>Still upset despite the fact I gimp myself and play footdar
Go be a fag somewhere else
>>47791798
IIRC Gladius and Shyhammer with psyker deathstar.
>>47791798
Skyhammer Annihilation Force with Grav on bikes and Centurions.
>>47791566
Warp Spiders aren't fun they're broken as fuck and the most unfun shit to play against. Oh you tried to do ANYTHING to me? TEEHEEHEE I TELEPORT AWAY
Way to prove all Eldar players are faggots.
So, since this started with a share post: Epistolary of kickass.to fame seems to have vanished. Where do I get my fix of HH/40k audiobooks now?
>>47791826
>one guy thinks the Wraithknight is only 50pts undercost, while the rest of us think it's 100pts.
More like 125-150.
I haven't played Orks in ages and I've unearthed my old Ork army. I've got two squads of ten boyz, a war boss, a mek with custom force field, some nobs, four trukks, six buggies, and a dreadnaught.
What do I need to buy to make this viable?
>>47791925
Do bikes count as Assault Squads and Centurions as Devastators?
Jesus fucking christ this is fucking stupid
>>47791939
lots of mek guns, bikes and tankbustas.
>>47791939
more boyz, for starters
even speed freaks want at least thirty trukk boyz
>>47791826
>thinks WKs should cost less than a Knight
No fuckoff you're still a faggot. Anyone who is still actively playin Eldar is a faggot end of story. All the nonfaggots already shelved the army because they weren't faggots. Proof? Your fucking post. It's like you dumb knife eared fuckboy loving faggots haven't even looked at how many points other GCs actually cost.
>>47791939
>Orks
>What do I need to buy to make this viable?
>>47791933
You can charge them, you can lob pies near them, fire flamers through them, hell shot a decent range weapon or laugh as their emergency jaunt moves them fuckall and they eat lead.
Not fucking hard.
>>47791592
>the CSM get Hatred when the Lord's around
Just the csm?
So what we have here is a formation that involves a shit unit in the form of a Helbrute, and the formation's only bonus doesn't do shit for said helbrute?
Not to mention 'durr hatred bubble' is lazy as fuck
>>47791939
>What do I need to buy to make this viable?
A time machine.
>>47791863
No. Just take the individual formation if you can. I don't think any of the Gladius only sub formations are particularly good. They're never taken in Battle Company anyways and they're seen as taxes.
Skyhammer is the one exception.
>>47791939
A horde of Kill-Bursta tanks, nothing else.
>>47791983
Jelly muhreen detected.
>>47792004
All models in formation within the 12" bubble, at least it hatred vs. all
>>47791990
>Not fucking hard
>one of the championship GT Eldar lists is just Warp Spider spam
Fuck off Eldarfag.
>>47791983
knights cost between 325 and 400.
Add 100 pts to a wraithknight at it costs 390.
>>47791938
>>47791938
125 maybe but not 150. look at the 400pts FW knights. 150 pts would mean it costs more than the top FW knight with the HQ upgrade.
The wraithknight still tougher than the top knights, but the difference shrinks, and it's weapons are weaker. Those knights with +1WS/BS and a 3++ save are better than a wraithknight.
>>47791798
double grav skyhammer.
>>47792004
Just the CSM. Yes, it's shit. You can't make this stuff up, literally all they'd have to do is add run and charge or something to at least get a not completely worthless choppy formation.
>>47792004
>a shit unit in the form of a Helbrute
Teleporting helbrutes and cultist icon helbrutes are both fairly decent formations.
No skyhammer, but why the fuck would I want shit like skyhammer.
Today, I saw an Imperial Guard player kick the shit out of an overly cocky Skyhammer player.
It was god damn glorious.
>>47792022
>Jelly muhreen detected
How can you even tell what army he plays? There's literally nothing to go on other than knights, which aren't even marine related other than being imperial.
>>47792051
What whas his list/tactics?
>>47792007
So Pedro is best off in a CAD?Since for some reason he''s not allowed in a sternhamner
>>47792038
>390 isn't less than 400
>GCs aren't superior to superheavy walkers
>>47791977
>boyz
boys are shit, your mandatory troop choices should be grots.
>>47792012
I'd say a pile of grots to camp objectives with cheap wounds, and don't they have transport cap? so some Meks with repair rolls.
>>47792024
Not evne Eldar, I play Ork sand evne i can do it.
Also try hard tourney fag Unit spam =/= All possible unit use.
If take along with a tax of shining spears, banshees and swooping hawks a single spider unit's a lot less daunting, hell it's can be fun trying to beat in the power rangers.
>>47792066
Only joined the spectacle at the end, but he had a lot of footslogging infantry, minimal artillery, a flyer (dont know which one 2bh), a Taurus, what looked like small, immobile anti-air cannons and an allied Space Marine detachment that consisted of Centurions, a Tactical Squad in a razorback and a captain. Don't really know my IG yet, so I can't really tell you the specifics on that part.
>>47792061
Aside from perssonal bias? Very little.
Muhreens are generally mad that they haven't won 40k, he could also be a jelly taufag but they usually can't stop talking about their army long enough to make a posts.
Demon players are generally very quiet.
Bottom 4 armies are too busy raggin on one another to care who's on top, sisters are busy being sorry for themselves, IG will always loudly complain that they can't play leafblower and Admech keep their mouth competently shut because they know if they even make a single beep they'll get flamed to fuck for their OP monobuild formation.
>>47791983
Aren't there some Wraith Knights that can't stand up to a regular Knight on the table?
I believe the Forge World ones lose to some regular GW Knights.
So now that blood angels dreads get +2 attacks, is an allied detachment with
HQ: Libby dread, pod.
Elite: Furioso with template gun thing, pod
Troop: Cassor the Damned, FW dread drop pod,
Heavy support: Deredeo
A good shout?
>>47792187
Any WK that lacks a sword will generally lose to a sword Knight, since S10, albeit with HoW if it gets the charge, is hard-pressed to destroy AV13 6HP before it swings back and wins. The problem is that if WK doesn't have a sword, it will have D-guns which will soften up the Knight before combat even happens, or those nasty melta lance things, which I admittedly don't know much about but hey, it's melta, it'll be good against the Knight.
>>47792187
>>47792173
daemon players are pretty content, at least I am
>>47792221
Well I also meant lose in shooting too.
I know one of the Forge World ones only has a template that I don't believe could do much to a Knight.
Also even with the Melta Lance, isn't that only two shots when some Knights like the Warden have the Avenger Cannons, Storm Spear and Battle Cannon(?)?
Huh. Well, this is good news I guess.
>>47792240
>daemon players are pretty content, at least I am
I get why, picking op a armful of Start Collecting Nurgle boxes next month, such great value for money and plays directly into the formations, only beasts of Nurgle are missing and I can pick up some cheap snail/slug figurines for cheaps.
>>47792276
Yeah, the new and improved White Dwarf, like it used to be.
looking forward to pirating it.
>>47792276
They just have no idea what to do with it, do they?
>>47792276
>exclusive games and rules
ohh, perhaps this is why we haven't gotten a codex in a while.
>>47792024
Salty Imperium faggot detected, go suck a corpses dick you necrophile. Ill enjoy my elf ladies and god of fucking rage
>>47792284
Honestly beasts of Nurgle are kinda shitty, I have three of them and they do almost nothing for 51 points a model.
So how long until they put Grav on a Dreadnought?
>>47792346
They already did. In 30k.
>>47792344
What they do is tank and cost nearly a third of the plague drones they share formation with.
>>47792355
I don't see the grav
>>47792355
Forgot that pic didn't have the Grav Imploder.
>>47792384
Here it is.
Is it me or does the Wraith Knight weapon selection seem kind of limited for the main ones?
What was stopping them from allowing them to have double Sun Cannons, Fire Prism's and Night Spinner's guns or letting you mix and match weapons instead of what it has now?
>>47792038
>it's weapons are weaker
Are you implying that D is weaker than D, or that D is weaker than not-D? Either way I'd say you're wrong.
>>47792395
Theres a version with super dupers meltas and one with those night spinner guns.
The.. sasquatch knight?
>>47792395
even gw shows restraint at times
I played against Eldar for the first time today.
Sun Cannons are fucking stupid.
>>47792384
They're SUPPOSED to tank is the thing but they don't. T5 with a 5++ save isn't that impressive. demonic instability and low leadership also means even if they ever lose combat you could see the whole unit disappear.
It's honestly better just to take another summoner and have a free squad of plague bearers doing your tanking for you, but I will say they make exellent bodyguards for nurgle herald who just wants to sit at the back of the board like a summoner with a doom bell.
>>47792501
Another day, another supplement, and more kit's with staggered releases and planned obsolescence are prime money making tools
>>47792276
Hope they don't fuck it up.
>>47792546
The rotherd formation requires you to take 7 units of Plague drones or beasts.
Drones start at ~120 for 3 beasts at ~50 for 1.
Mainly that reason i want them, and i really love their fluff as big old pestilent puppies, jumping with joy and piddling acid and bile in their excitement to find new playmates who they then smother, crush and dissolve to death as they roughouse, how they bittlerly mourn the loss of their friend untill they spot a new one.
>>47792401
The top nights have a d melee weapon plus a very powerful gun.
The melee knight has the same number of attacks. 5++ save in melee. And a six shot s7 ap2 concussive gun.
That is weapons than the melee wraithknight
>>47792078
> 390 is less than 350.
>>47792276
weekly pamphlets on new kits was never a good plan
>>47792546
there is their counter charge ability. i need to get around to proxing them at least once
>>47791983
Pretty sure you were saying this exact same thing about tau yesterday. Be sure to rotate your material a bit for optimum freshness.
>>47792726
Counter charge sounds good until you realize anyone willing to charge THE close combat army is going to be too much for the S4 ap- beasts to handle.
would having 2 squads of 3 wyverns work against a T5+ majority necron army at 2500 points?
what's the best way to use the Tempestus start collecting formation?
>>47792824
i guess in a best case scenario they're hanging around some pink horrors about to get smacked by grey knights, but with the beasts they could slow them down until a nearby bloodthrister or seekers can help next turn
>>47792838
Probably melta. Deep strike them, kill something, laugh as you put them back in reserve to deep strike again when they get ragekilled/blown up by the Knight they took out.
>>47792838
Command squad and commissar in the turox, scions deep strike then die then deepstrike back in again until the command squad dies.
>>47792838
Make the Commissar a Lord Commossar to boost his survivability, give them Melta, or Flamers if you're expecting mass infantry blobs, and go to town as they keep coming back whenever they die.
What weapons do you take on your dreads?
Bolt pistols and chainswords or bolters for Death Company Squad?
>>47792927
Stock melta in a pod or twin las. I'm personally a fan of twin ACs for maximum Rifleman but 2bh twin las is better in most of the situations you are using the Mortis rules for.
>>47792044
>but why the fuck would I want shit like skyhammer.
I play CSM too, but Skyhammer is a powerful formation that is 100% true to Space Marine fluff. We need a few of those types of formations.
>>47792927
multi-melta on the standard dread
assault cannon on the venerable
twin flamers on the ironclad
>>47792834
Still ~50% chance wound per hit. How many dudes will he have packed together for you to hit?
One of the heroes in DoW3 is an Imperial Knight (piloted by a female, no less) that has double Avenger Gatling Cannons. Think we'll get another new Knight kit since right now only the Renegades can do that? As a fan of dakka knights I'm really hoping so, but who knows, right?
>>47792927
Nothing on regular dreads but maybe a heavy flamer. Always been miffed at the fact the weapon swaps cost points when they start with a multi-melta. Especially assault cannons being so costly.
>>47792976
>imperial Knight (piloted by a female, no less)
>double Avenger Gatling Cannons
>only the Renegades can do that
Sounds like the blood ravens have been gifted a rogue knightheretic pilot included.
>>47792976
The graphics look like fucking ass.
>>47792976
>female
>working with the blood ravens
>using a weapon configuration not deemed appropriate by the omnissiah
She is a renegade man.
>>47793005
>>47793000
I like this theory.
That said, I still want to see double dakka knights for loyalists, and given how well knight kits have sold I'd be surprised if GW doesn't do another iteration.
>>47792963
lots of immortals, lych and wraiths
>>47792927
Plasma cannon/flamer fist
Melta/missile
double autocannons
assault cannon/flamer fist
Melta/standard fist
Or just magnetize
>>47793001
Supposedly they went with a different art style because they want larger numbers of units on screen than in DoW2 and want the unit micro and overall gameplay to feel more responsive. It looks a little better in the E3 footage at least, but yeah, I agree that it could be a improved.
>>47792976
I was the first to say it and I'll say it 1,000sons more times
>twin avenger gattling knight
Blood ravens confirmed for renegade
>>47793018
tell ya what loyalist, we'll give you the plans for double guns on knights if you hand over grav tech. fair is fair right?
>>47793076
Fucking phone posting ruining my clever spoils
I'll figure that shit out soon enough
>>47793077
u can bugger right off back to the butthole of terror
>>47793029
Well if the lyches have shields the bad ap won't matter. And the body count should still be fairly high.
I'd say sounds good. But expect to see some still live to hit your lines as necron are stupid tough
>>47791249
Chaos boon table blows
>>47792720
Oh God is that legit?
Christ
>>47792948
Bolt pistols and Chainswords. You need every attack you can get, as now they miss A LOT with only WS 4.
>>47793113
sure sure, but my offer still stands
>>47792976
>>47793000
>>47793001
>>47793005
>>47793018
>>47793042
>>47793076
>>47793077
>>47793100
I don't want to hear about the rainbow. What we didn't notice is how Gab performing a dynamic entry.
newb here, what are the rules relating to combining armies (such as running both Adepta Sororitas and space marines)
I was told something about an inquisitor being neccesarry but I wasn't told the specifics.
Anyone know what that new Dark Eldar get started formation is?
Fuck the Eldar one
>>47793163
Rule of Cool still works I guess.
>>47792927
I've been tending towards Melta/Flamer because it's cheap and I'm trying to make use of their Melee punch so want them running near the start of the game anyhow.
Kheres all the way on any Contemptor variant though.
>>47792927
BLASTMASTERS
>>47793001
>>47793042
Maybe they'll polish it before release.
It's not really mandatory now as it's still in development.
>>47792948
Bolters if you think you can always get the charge off or think you'll be facing units at higher initiative/WS. Chainswords otherwise.
You're basically just swapping the to hit/to wound rolls around for the first round of combat against other MEQs then being worse off for the next few rounds of combat. Pointless in any other situation.
It's also worth considering putting power lances on them by the way, people don't suggest it but it's one of the few units in the game that can really make use of them.
>>47792525
They used to be worst anon.
>>47793163
>Gab performing a dynamic entry
from what I've read the different heroes and elite units have different costs, so you can't start the mission with the knight and have to buy her partway through. I'm guessing they made a deep strike style entry so that you didn't have to walk her from base every time you got to use her.
>>47793171
Just need to follow the allied detachment chart
>>47793224
I love the Sonic Dread, but it does seem slightly schizophrenic.
On the one hand, can shoot blast master twice if it doesn't move.
On the other, Melee weapon and two template weapons.
So you want it to move and to not move.
>>47793171
>>47793171
See this >>47788481
Each detachment described there has to be made up of units from one army only. But you can take allied detachments.
So for instance you could take a Space Marine Combined Arms Detachment and a Sisters of Battle Allied Detachment and use them together just like that.
Now Space Marines and Sisters are Battle Brothers which means they have no restrictions when working together (except they are not allowed to start the game in each other's transports)
But other armies have restrictions about how close their units can get to each other. You'll have to check the allies table in the main rule book.
>>47793171
Behold the Allies table. Armies operating with each other are either Battle Brothers, Allies of Convenience, Desperate Allies, or Come The Apocalypse.
>Battle Brothers
Benefit from Warlord Traits, can be joined by IC's, are friendly units for psychic powers, repair hull points, embark on transports, and effect reserve rolls. According to a recent FAQ, Battle Brothers CANNOT use each others transports.
>Allies of Convenience
Cannot move within 1" of each other,cannot have any of the benefits listed in battle brothers, and are effected by rules and abilities that effect enemy units.
>Desperate Allies
Are just like Allies of Convenience except they have a One Eye Open rule. Cannot be within 6" of each other or roll a d6. On a One, cannot do anything and flyers most move at minimums and cannot pivot.
>Come the Apocalypse
Just like Desperate Allies, except that they cannot deploy within 12" of each other.
>>47793275
>>47793273
thank you both very much
>>47793029
Or, if you can, add emperor's wraith artillery formations. 1 unit of wyverns. One basilisk. And manicure.
Basilisk with ic order says fuck you to immortals. Manticore can id wraiths. Wyverns but out a ton of wounds.
>>47791100
Your Dreadnoughts can have +2A if my Helbrutes can.
>>47793337
I'd be super okay with that. Hellbrutes are neat and deserve better rules.
>>47792173
>IG will always loudly complain that they can't play leafblower
I'm relatively new to the game; what did you mean by this?
huh, so 260 points minimum for the start collecting tempestus.+20 to doublemelta the scion squad and then uh. hrmn. 20 points on the taurox prime to give it a missile launcher to help fight armor? makes it an even 300. five of those making up a 1500 list. just constantly dropping suicide meltas as you have the commissars squirreled away
>>47793432
That's hilarious.
Four of those let you run one of their formations in their minidex as well.
>yfw Betrayal at Calth is nearly 1000 points on its own for 100 bucks
>>47792834
see
>>47793332
This. At 2500 you'll need anti-vehicle firepower, too, and the Manticore is one of the best ways to crack open super-heavies at long range due to its d3 S10 Ordnance shots. Using the formation to twin-link it and have it ignore cover is icing on the cake. The same is true for the basilisks, though they suffer against AV14 since they're only S9 (about a 50% chance to damage, vs the Manticore's 75%)
At 2500 you can probably get away with a full squadron of wyverns, a full squadron of bassies, and the manticore. Your techpriest can do with some plasma servitors in addition to his servo-claw retinue (you'll be working overtime with those repair rolls, since necron tesla weapons will wear down your armor pretty fast). The plasma weapons are in case your Company Commander rolls the bonus order on Warlord Traits (you can't use Creed, unfortunately). Otherwise they can still reliably put out damage, since they ALSO get twin-linking against the formation's target.
Another upgrade to consider is Volkov's Cane. The Formation rolls at Ld 8 (about sergeant level) but you can place the two squadrons within 6 inches of the Chimera's hull to boost that effective Ld to 11, making orders go off 97% of the time. Also note, that since the 'command vehicle' rule specifies that the order range of *embarked officers* is measured from the vehicle's hull, Volkov's cane still works even though the model is not on the board.
Hand a vox-caster to every infantry unit you've got on the field and you're golden. Rain fire on them.
>>47793474
>100 bucks
what
it's 150 USD
>>47793292
they meant like, seperate armies under their own direct control, 1v1 with two different armies, not seperate players.
>>47793491
Jeez is the dollar that weak again?
Eurofag here, gonna order it for 100 euros next week.
>>47793292
>According to a recent FAQ, Battle Brothers CANNOT use each others transports
No, it's that they cannot begin the game deployed in their Battle Brothers transport
>>47793469
huh? I'm not sure what you mean. It's not like something can be part of two formations without special dispensation
>>47793509
No, conversion prices don't work that way in GW stores. They have a set price that's independant of the euro.
iirc, it's the UK gets it cheaper than we do.
>>47793292
>Behold the Allies table.
6th Edition
>>47793610
I compared the prices in Sterling and Euro on the site and they came to literally the same price. Maybe the US is just more expensive. I'm buying 15% off too though, idk.
>>47793551
What I meant was that 4 of the Scions boxes lets you run one of their formations, if you ignore the three extra commissars you have.
>>47793474
Can you use the minis from Betrayal at Calth in 40k?
>>47793635
Yes.
The Tactical Marine profile is the same. The Cataphractii Terminators and the Contemptor Dreadnought have rules in the Angels of Death supplement.
>>47793635
Yes. The Cataphractii and Contemptor have rules in Angels of Death.
If you're going to play one of the first founding chapters, paint them in their colors so you can use them for 30k as well.
>>47793635
yes
>>47793635
Yes. TACs are TACs, and the Angels of Death supplement has rules for Cataphractii and Contemptors.
I'm gonna play them as the Imperial Fists so I can play them in either.
>>47793494
oh, well this simply can't be done. tough luck kiddo
>Dire avengers are 40 for 5
>guardians are 45 for 10
>dire avengers are better in every way besides objective holding which Rangers can do better than guardians for 60 points
FUCK YOU
>>47793685I don't fully understand what that anon was trying to say, butwhat? Literally make your own rules, you're playing against yourself?so who gives a shit.
>>47793001
SC2 looked like shit in alpha and then came out and looked great.
>>47793773
>waah waah my units that are better than any of their counterparts are shit
fuck off eldar shitter
>>47793839
Why remind me that SC2 died man. Fuck.
>>47793848
Youre tears are delicious baby
>>47793855
DELETE THIS
>>47793783
They were saying that they wanted to have a single army made up of different parts of the Imperium of Man (battle bitches and space amrines)
most people assumed he meant two seperate armies working together
1v1 = two players against eachother
2v2 = four players, in two seperate teams
>>47793292
>SoB as likely to join Black Templars as Eldar or Necrons
Is there a legitimate fluff reason for this or was the 6E allies table just fucking retarded?
>>47793878
It was such a magnificent strategy game.
Rest in peace. May MC forever disrespect you.
>>47793884
Well then it is possible to have to separate armies in a 1v1. Just double up on CAD and take one of each. Am I missing anything else?
>>47793232
My friend is going to be rolling heavy in Daemons of Nurgle soon but I feel like he'll never be as aggressive as he should be so despite being melee oriented myself, SM seems naturally better at ranged and I guess a little worse in melee. I'm thinking I could target his melee units first with an exchange or two with his ranged units to keep them in check, and when he gets close just charge the shit out of him. Although I'm a little worried about how he's planning to deep strike units.
So wait.
Gladius lets me use each doctrine once per game right?
Battle Demi-Company lets me use the tactical doctrine once right?
So I get tactical doctrine twice?
>>47793923
Better question is, why are you playing fucking space Marines?
>>47793923
use ultra marines with calgar and you can use them 4 times, pretty handy for when you need those rerolls or don't wanna use a psyker
>>47793935
I've loved their aesthetic and lore since I was 8 and now that I finally have the money to actually play the fucking game I'm gonna play the faction I've been looking forward to playing for way more than half of my life. K?
>>47793937
That's fucking stupid though. I don't wanna min-max like that. Though Tactical Squads seem a bit weak, maybe they need it.
>>47793966
>Calgar
>minmaxing
You'll be fine Anon.
>>47793923
Correct!
What chapter are you going to play?
>>47793984I also really don't wanna play the gay smurfs because Matt Ward's "additions" to the fluff still haunt me to this day
>>47794001
Thinking about the Imperial Fists. I like their chapter tactics and their lore, plus their color scheme has been growing on me for a while now.
Ideally I'd love to play Black Templars but I'm on a really tight budget so I can't really justify buying that many conversion kits, sadly.
Which chapter do you play?
>>47792927
Powerfist/Chainfist combo or Powerfist/Plasma cannon.Its my Khornate Chaos Contemptor Dreadnought though...
>>47794037
I myself play Imperial Guard, though I'm looking to start up a 30k Word Bearers army.
Thinking maybe either Unspeaking Chapter, or Black Comet Chapter.
The Imperial Fists are better than the Black Templars, in my opinion, especially since GW messed with the BT fluff they just don't seem as cool to me anymore.
>>47794117
Forgot pic, whoops!
>>47793935
kill yourself
>>47794174
I bet you play humans in dnd campaigns you boring unoriginal pleb, go drink some Capri sun our of your fanny pack.
>>47794117
>>47794131
>especially since GW messed with the BT fluff they just don't seem as cool to me anymore.
Yeah I heard they've been reduced to 1300 men. Not that that makes any sense unless you retcon a LOT of crusades that should be going on the galaxy, but that's GW I guess.
>Thinking maybe either Unspeaking Chapter, or Black Comet Chapter.
Unspeaking Chapter looks cool, but something about the Black Comet iconography just tickles my fancy.
Kind of looks like something you'd see as the back patch of a biker gang jacket.
>>47794192
I bet you played elves because you needed fictional reasons to make your character better then your group's because of your insecurities.
>>47794192
You need church.
>>47794192
>go drink some Capri sun our of your fanny pack.
Fuck I lol'd.
>>47788224
>Chaos get can fucked
t Games Workshop
I want to convert my army to Islam. Are there Islamic space marines, and if so, how can I show this on the model?
I like Games Workshop's newest works like Commander Dante. How can I convert him to be like Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi? I also thought of an allying force of Sisters of Battle wearing greenstuff Burkas.
>>47794215
No I play orcs because my dick isn't smaller than 6' and I'm actually wanted in social situations unlike you you fucking degenrate
>>47794192
>go drink some Capri sun our of your fanny pack
>our of your
I don't co-own any fanny pack with you shit stain.
>>47794192
I play SM and I find this offensive. Personally I roll Dragonborn.
(Although I'll admit in a lot of mmos and RPGs I pick human as my race)
>>47794192
Who doesn't enjoy some nice cold Capri Sun?
>>47794232
Ork players confirmed longer than they are tall.
>>47792720
Oh god, that poor thing! That's fucking horrible
>>47794192
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZapOy3eH3yE
>>47794229
>I want to convert my army to Islam. Are there Islamic space marines, and if so, how can I show this on the model?
/tg/ made an Arabian WS chapter once but I can't find the thread.
>>47794232
>wanted in social situations.
Everyone is fine that you dress up for the session, but please keep the odor part of the cos-play at home you faggot.
>>47794271
The only odor I smell is all that cum on your fucking face, with all those tears you got I think I could clean half of it off you fucking queer
>>47794232
>degenrate
Ja was ist denn seine Degenrate? 10 Degen/Sekunde?
Is the CSM getting started the worst of the batch? A Hatred bubble is probably more useful than the Gargoyle redeploy move, but at least that box comes with a Tyrant.
Has the CSM collecting formation leaked yet?
>>47794214
>Kind of looks like something you'd see as the back patch of a biker gang jacket.
That's exactly why I'm considering it! A shame that the only RoW that lets you take Bikes as troops is White Scars only, as I'd totally run them as a Biker Gang Army. And though there is a RoW that lets you take Jetbikes as troops, Jetbike models are ridicously expensive.
Whatever, YOLO
>>47794288
Snitzil Snitzil Allah akbar 6 million
>>47794299
Yeah.
>>47794283
>spent so long without a shower that he grew accustomed to the smell.
>nose can smell male cum from across the room
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>>47794302
He looks hesitant
>>47794311
>not masturbation 7 times a day and getting super semen smell
Can't we all get along? Also who's the 40k version of Durge? Any Iron Warrior Chaos Lord?
>>47794301
I mean theoretically you could paint your basic troops as Unspeaking and your Fast Attack choices as Black Comet, but that wouldn't be for everyone I guess.
>>47794325
>not masturbating throughout the whole day, only to release the pent up fluid only before you go to bed.
>>47794307
A 12" Hatred from the lord? The Shitbrute is a pretty deal breaking, but it seems decent otherwise provided the Hatred isn't limited to the formation
>>47794340
I could, yeah.
Now I just need FW to release a Praetor Biker model, and I can be happy.
>masturbating
>>47794217
What the fuck is that thing.
>>47794367
Pedophilus Mechanicus
>>47794366
>mastur-baiting
>>47794366
How else do you glue your models together?
>>47794353
>feel like I jerk it too often
>take a 2 day break
>wet dream
>>47794365
That would be sick! Maybe you can doctor a decent conversion, I've yet to do conversions so I can't really estimate the limits of what's doable.
>>47794360
Allow me to post a superior Chaos box.
>>47794367
A Knight with close ties to the Church.
>>47794217
Well that is one way to ensure everyone donates to the Imperial collection plate I guess.
>>47794419
I think maybe the go go gadget hand does turn into a collection plate.
>>47794302
please tell me you magnetized the jump pack
>>47794217
I thought that was a base for a larger model at first
>>47794403
Just imagine one of these dudes on a bike in WB colors. Mmmm....
Black Helmets and Shoulders, nice dark red everything else with inscriptions and runes. Oh yes.
Can anyone link the start collecting Eldar and Dark Eldar spoilers?
>>47794494
Now that would be a true Son of Anarchy.
>>47794494
DAEMONS WITHIN DAEMONS WITHOUT
>>47794328
From that picture I would say literally any black templar marine.
>>47794360
Of course it's limited to the Formation.
The formation has no way of actually getting into CC. The formation is shit, the models inside the formation are shit. Christ, the Helbrute doesn't even get GW's seal of house rule approval for +2 Attacks.
>>47794572
GW fucked up bad on this one
>old ass models
>generic terminator lord instead of the unique new captain SM got
>mirror of SM kit instead of being stuffed with cultists and specialists
>rules shit compared to SM rules
honestly at this point I would have preferred to not have a Start Collecting! Chaos Space Marines, and for the next starter kit to not have Chaos Space Marines in it, and then eventually last chance the whole CSM line.
>>47794051
Yeah, I kinda had to go for Power Fist/Plasma Cannon for my chaos Contemptor and model the fist with the wolf dread's axe.
Axe and plasma is how you Khorne.
>>47794467
>magnetized
Nigga I can't even cut mold lines and sprues worth a damn. For $26 I'll just buy another squad when I figure out what the fuck I'm doing.
>>47794633
Emery boards, you twat.
You can get away with ignoring mould lines, but you'd sure as fuck better start buying disposable nail care products to file down those sprue cuts, because fuck that's ugly.
>>47794633
At least you're honest.I didn't magnetize my IG Start Colltecting!
>>47794650
That will happen before I paint anything, rest easy. However I'm currently so new (literally one game under my belt) that I currently can't resist gluing shit together the second I get them.
>>47794572
>wrathborn
that's a new term.
>>47794622
>giving Captain Agemman to CSM
>mirroring C:SM when CSM aren't marine mirrors
Are you retarded?
>>47794572
>>47794622
>Traitors once again learn that heresy doesn't pay
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>>47794633
dont worry i cant mold lines either but i went outta my goddamned way to learn how to magnetize the fuckers. i wanted just a couple squads that i could throw into a drop pod or give em jump packs when things seemed neccesary.
>>47794566
>can't stop talking
>likes killing
>is insane
Two out of three yep Durge is a BT.
>>47794763
>mirroring C:SM when CSM aren't marine mirrors
the CSM box has 10 chaos marines, a terminator lord, and a helbrute
the SM box has 10 tactical marines, a terminator captain, and a dreadnought
GW thinks CSM are spikey SM, but they are not. Trying to use CSM like SM will end in sadness only.
Yes I am retarded, but I am not sure how that makes the Getting Started! Chaos Space Marines box less of a fuck up on GW's part.
>>47794328
I find it interesting that the majority of their species are actually scholars and philosophers, with the older of them being the ones like Durge.
>>47794765
SAY THAT TO MY FACE CORPSEFUCKER NOT OVER THE ASTROPATHIC CHOIR SEE WHAT HAPPENS
>>47794772
Learning to magnetize will happen as well but I currently have no drop pods or any other transport for that matter. My friend and only opponent for the time being has the CSM side of Dark Vengeance and the Start Collecting: Daemons of Nurgle kits. We barely know the rules and are mainly just collecting units we think are cool, after we play a few more games and get a feel for what does what it'll be more serious business. As it is I'll be using the SM side of Dark Vengeance as guinea pigs for painting. This is my first crafting hobby so I currently lack discipline and a long term goal. In this pic you can see how poorly I chose how to build my Captain and Sergeant.
6 units of chaos marines, 3 units of raptors, 3 units of Havoks, 2 helbrutes and a chaos Lord or dark apostle, all in rhinos.
>>47794869
The formation bonus is, oh, let's say Soul Blaze on bolt pistols.
>>47794827
I think Durge is the odd man out due to torture.
>>47794914
Whoah man, do you want CSM to sweep tourney after tourney with that formation bonus? Better make it once a game, probably only on meltaguns - but I'm not too sure, after all that would allow melta CSM to kill both infantry and tanks. Too OP?
>>47794856
I would be quite scared if you weren't already..."Dis-armed"
>>47793773
>Implying you don't spam scattbikes either way
God one anon
>>47795043
Make it so you only get the bonus if you can kill 3 enemy units that are within 1" of an objective. That'd make it fair.
>>47795073
Would you be kind enough to explain this joke? I had heard in an earlier thread that various events caused Abaddon give someone a hand (or two)
>>47794633
>>47794302
this is how my DC look and they are pretty terrible
>>47795209
His sculpt at one point was so bad that his arms would constantly fall out unless you pinned them in.
>>47795209
This is how it happened.
>>47795209
the original metal model had very heavy metal arms attached via a weak joint, and without pinning the arms fell off a lot.
>>47795229
Dude I have no artistic talent to speak of. I can only hope to achieve even half the quality you have there. You know that one fucked up space marine model people post as a joke? My whole army is going to look like that shit. I'm going to have to make up some shit like The Flaw caused severe defects making everyone look retarded.
>>47794869
Are the Helbrutes in rhinos too?
>>47795244
i'm not an expert but that seems to happen to a lot of metal models, my oop keepers gave me so much trouble
>>47795229
>dusty
>no washes
>glare
>blank bases
i shouldn't be so hard, my stuff doesn't look good and i'm terrible at taking pictures
I am getting into Scions, not sure what to ally with at 1850. The army needs a distractafex or it crumbles.
Bullgryn squads from the imp guard formation.
1-2 knights.
30 or so space marine scouts to go start on objectives.
>>47795308
yea i have left em out for like a month now so they are building dust. the detail on em is shit cause i was in such a hurry to finish the first batch i completely forgot about highlighting. im fixed to base em once i actually get some better base stuff then fine ballast and grass. also the glare comes from me using a friends shitty camera light to close to my guys faces.
New bread
>>47795485
>>47795160
>implying you don't spam riptide
Everyone's a cheese monger, woop DE fucking doo
>>47791249
This shit is incredible, but I mean that in both of its definitions. I'll have my chaos buddy play her Nurgle & Slaanesh CSM straight out of this, though.
>>47791939
A codex that wasn't shat together by drooling mongoloids at GW; here's mine instead.
Bit ly/Orks7ePDF
>>47794765
Literally no-one enjoys this sad loyalist RP when you're punching down on factions whose rules have been neglected. It hasn't been funny in at least a decade. I'm sure you would rather have more players generally & CSM players with kickass armies & wild rules to face down on the table rather than punching bags.
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