Novels Without End Edition
Call of the Moriat Sub-Edition
On the previous thread we discovered that the Path to Heaven novel is now out, one Anon talked about the troubles of having to run two Spartans, the creators of the Mastodon was revealed to be Perturabo and Dorn and the idea of a Mastodon gun platform was discussed, someone asked about the popularity of 30k and someone asked about Legion popularity, some stupid stuff happened, and more in the old bread >>46844151
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>>46860155
First for asking what OP guy plays.
>>46860220
Second for realising that now only characters can carry pheonix spears.
Whats the fun in this?
>>46860236
Ps:
I just realiesd I a mstupid and that Sarges are characters also...right?
>>46860269
Yes
>>46860301
Hmm, then anon is right and Command Squads can't get Phoenix Spears.
Boooh!
First for Iron Within, Iron Without.
What style do people follow in their armies? Do you do just straight up FW legions with FW models and kits, and painted like in FW books, or do you look at old RT era and Visions of Heresy artwork for inspiration for conversions and paint styles?
>>46860340
I looked a lot at older art as well to get a feeling for the setting.
>>46859883
>Is there any way to make a Praetor a psyker? Or for non Word Bearer psykers to take Daemonology?
Calas Typhon is a Praetor psyker with rad grenades an an orbital chem bombardment. Not quite a Powerfist + Paragon blade praetor, but he can do fine and can scream people to death with his mind, so there's that.
>>46860340
I get inspiration from any source I can find, old or new.
>>46860340
Am I seeing a Land Raider with autocannon sponsons? What's next...Multilasers?
>>46860433
No, GW just paints las weapons with muzzle flashes.
>>46860220
>for asking what OP guy plays.
I don't play the game but I'm getting interested in playing it. If and when I do I'll end up playing Bangles. I'll make sure to make Papa Sang proud and prove the gun is good.
>>46860499
that's a fucken book cover, im so glad i collected all the old codices
>>46860499
I see. I'm just used to las-beams and other better ways to represent them.
>>46860412
Yeah, but he's a dick.
He's not quite Eidolon or Fabulous Bill, but he's a major douche
>>46860654
Did you talk about AWESOME guys?
>>46860654
He did save some Sisters of Silence during the Crusade once.
>>46860654
Grulgor was a bigger dick than Typhon.
>>46860680
Have faith, Word Bearer.
>>46860654
Tell me about it. Say, had Mortarion preserved the Librarius, could he have become a decent guy, or was his soul entirely forfeit to the dark powers from the moment he was born (being a descendant of Barbarus' necromancers and stuff)?
So many things that could have gone in a different direction...
>>46860654
>major douche
Hello there
>>46860736
I like them a lot. I wish there was just ONE loalist WB character.
>>46860736
>Have faith, Word Bearer.
>>46860687
>FW deathshroud aren't black
you had one fookin job FW, one job.
>>46860700
i forgot about that fucker
im trying to think of the biggest douche in the IW trident now
>>46860738
>was his soul entirely forfeit to the dark powers from the moment he was born (being a descendant of Barbarus' necromancers and stuff)?
That wasn't the case. He did make plants die as a child but he decided to gain control over his powers so he wouldn't be an environmental hazard.
>Tell me about it. Say, had Mortarion preserved the Librarius, could he have become a decent guy
Yes.
>>46860784
Maybe they decided that there was too many marines running around in black.
>>46860784
I thought Calas' are black because the Terminus Est is a poison ship, so pretty much anything in it is part of the Destroyer corps. But now that you mention it, Deathshroud were meant to blend in the shadows and stuff.
>>46860757
>loyalist WB character.
W 0
>>46860820
Old bolters were the silliest things ever, with the magazines on the front. It's too strong for my suspension of disbelief, I need a psyker.
>>46860828
>But now that you mention it, Deathshroud were meant to blend in the shadows and stuff.
FW probably forgot about that.
>>46860874
That image contains Mortarion and 7 Deathshroud. Can you spot them all?
>>46860833
Same with traitorous Ultramarines.
Some Anon came up with a really nice idea how a lodge could have changed some and how they could have participated in calth.
He talked about the ill-favoured destroyers playing a role and that they would add a big amount of black to their colour scheme and replace laurel wraiths with thorn ones.
Even wrote a little text on how the Word bearers bring Freedom.
Cool guys.
>>46860736
Shit diggery
>>46860788
Golg maybe.
>>46860687
When was that?
I'd guess his boss was watching, I can't imagine him getting along with the Sisters
>>46860820
I don't know, he seems like the always evil type to me, just like Erebus and Kor Pheron
Last thread it was mentioned that Mort has bad dreams of Typhon, while he leads half the legion.
I can only imagine this is what he hears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw10xa_xtNg
>>46860700
Yeah?
>>46860866
Have you not seen RT bolters before?
>>46860700
No, he really wasn't.
Typhon killed the Legion's navigators, becalmed them in the warp, and delivered them to Nurgle to infect with the Destroyer Plague. Also he was a fucking xeno-blooded abomination.
>>46860891
>Some Anon came up with a really nice idea how a lodge could have changed some and how they could have participated in calth.
:D
Yup. They based their tactic on Aeonid Thiel's thesis on Marine vs Marine engagements. They ally themselves with traitor Ordo reductor and engage a Shattered Legion who thought they were loyal, so it ended in reverse Calth.
>>46860874
>>46860820
I like that style of art.
>>46860866
What's the problem? It's not like it needs the barrel, since rocket boosters and shit. And not all guns work on the old bolt pushing cartridge into breech principle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gowc3DT_nbQ
>>46860941
I like it.
FW should serve at least one loyalist/traitor option for every legion.
Would improve fun.
>>46860886
Reminds me of this. When I first looked at it I only saw two dark eldar.
>>46860893
Now where have I seen that logo before...
>>46860886
The bottom left arrow is pointing at Morty and two Deathshrouds. Top left arrow is point at three of them in the cloud, the top right is pointing at the other three, and the arrow below the land speeder is pointing at the one hanging on the land speeder.
>>46860906
>When was that?
>I'd guess his boss was watching, I can't imagine him getting along with the Sisters
Maybe he had nothing personal against them.
>Last thread it was mentioned that Mort has bad dreams of Typhon, while he leads half the legion.
>I can only imagine this is what he hears
That would be Chaos influence creeping in.
>>46860944
We need this style back in the modern 40k.
Found some RT era bolters.
>>46860912
Wtf is that!
And the chainaxes are blunt things with spikes on them!
And oooh boy, the dudes in the back's malformed helmets!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee
>>46860965
>It's not like it needs the barrel, since rocket boosters and shit
In order to fix the gyrojet's terrible point blank characteristics, bolter ammo has propellant casing like a regular bullet, and at mid-longish range, the rocket booster helps counter air resistance.
Not only that, but a longer barrer makes for higher muzzle velocity and accuracy, as it can spin inside the barrel.
But yeah, rocket boosters and shit.
There's some sort of thing that illustrators can learn about, I don't remember how's that called but it consists about drawing stuff that kinda makes sense from an engineering viewpoint. It's one of the things that made Ghost in the Shell and Appleseed not suck like most other weaboo shows.
>>46861157
Wierd, but looks cool.
>Revenebro.
>>46861157
Three clip feeds?
Are the bolts assembled in the gun?
>>46861157
>RT era bolters.
A direct evolution of the M3 redneck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I3I6P9j2ag
>>46861226
Only two magazines. The thing behind the lower magazine that looks like one is actually a hand guard.
>>46861164
The booster charge is merely to get the bolt out of the gun with enough force to make it deadly at point blank ranges. The rocket can generate its own spin, though I don't even know how long the rifling has to be in order to give the projectile "enough spin".
>>46861164
Chaos does that to everything it touches.
>>46861181
What's wrong with Revenbro?
>>46861226
>>46861245
And now for the second.
>>46861297
Only one termie pattern really matters.
>>46861333
When you look back into older art this is just as goofy.
>>46861297
Nothing is wrong, I just added the r into his name.
>>46861283
Let it spin, bro! True, maybe you don't need that much of a barrel to get good spin and point blank characteristics, maybe I'll go read some /k/ later.
Still, it makes me wonder. If the important part of the bolter is nearly at the muzzle...what's the rest of the gun for?
I seriously doubt it's ergonomics.
>>46861376
Oh my bad.
>>46861333
>SATURNINE WHEN
>>46861363
Yes, it's an attempt of renewing the old goofy art. It came out as "What do you mean his head is mounted on the middle of his chest?" abomination.
>>46861407
>what's the rest of the gun for?
>I seriously doubt it's ergonomics.
To confuse any aliens who get their hands on a bolter.
>>46861157
>>46861297
Dual direction feed up in this bitch!
Just makes you wonder what the top magazine feeds, since it's a combi-bolter and only has one bolter bit, which gets its ammo from the belt on the bottom.
>>46861445
>Magazine on top
>Belt fed on bottom
>Melta barrel
>Chainsaw bayonet big enough to count as combi-chainsword
Such are the ways of chaos
>>46861445
It feeds Rule of Cool to the chainsword engine so it works.
>>46861407
Room for the bolt to recoil? If you look at old sub-machine guns, you'll see that there's a lot of room in them for the bolt to travel. Could be just various systems regarding targeting and such that bolters have. Maybe it's an old model that was built like that for a reason and later models were able to fit the parts differently or something?
>>46861515
No, that's the repurposed fuel tank on the side. Maybe it balances the auxiliar handle spike, as you can never have enough choppa in your dakka.
>>46861437
Just where those cogboys who made that pattern smoking. Also have more Collected Visions termies in SoH flavor.
>>46861445
Proppa Orky.
>>46861508
Not to forget that there's a spike running perpendicular to the chainsword blade (seen near the end of the blade) that's on both sides of the gun and actually blocks the bolter barrel, so the first time you pull the trigger you're shooting part of your gun off.
CHAOS!
>>46861525
Well you may be right. 30k and beyond is WW2 electric bogaloo after all.
>>46861566
>where
what I meant to say.
>>46861537
I think that tube is some sort of a scope. Maybe it's powered by the same engine as the chainsword. Also, worthy of note, the cable between the tube and the engine blocks the ejection port of the bolter.
>>46861584
Yeah, if you look at some of the very early bolters, they had shrouded barrels and shit.
Man, I hope we get those bolter variants with the magazine at the front and a barrel shroud.
>>46861537
Maybe it's an Iron Warrior combi-bolter-melta-chainsword so the top magazine is actually a very small fortification Perturabo put there.
>>46861445
>>46861567
>>46861646
>>46861598
We got it all wrong. It's not a ranged weapon, it's a melee weapon that can sometimes pevent some malfunctions and shoot a little. It's a rather dakky choppa
>>46860749
>>46860680
Word Bearer soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s3b5OR2YhE
Since Iron Warriors posters have been making such a comeback, here's the new thread theme:
>m.youtube.com/watch?v=xnKhsTXoKCI
More old-school bolters and please tell me that the marine's pauldrons aren't that big.
>>46861646
Adding on to this, the reason CSM still get a 3+ Sv after 10,000 years without armour maintenance is because of the tiny forts on their guns.
>>46861658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_NYNuAdIv0
>>46861706
I have no problem with those pauldrons. Or that they are completely green on Istvaan 3. But holy fuck, that finger sure is corrupted.
>>46861164
>There's some sort of thing that illustrators can learn about, I don't remember how's that called but it consists about drawing stuff that kinda makes sense from an engineering viewpoint.
>It's one of the things that made Ghost in the Shell and Appleseed not suck like most other weaboo shows.
Art design can only cover for so much.
>>46861002
>Traitor Salamanders worship Phospex
>Traitor Ultramarines lose the rigid command
>Loyal WB get preferred enemy: Daemons
>>46861734
Any advice on what to read from the HH series that illustrates the WB outlook without being an atrocity to read?
>>46861734
Dinosaur-filled tiny forts on their guns
>>46861734
Ahahaha.
I love them.
My favourite is their charol.
>>46861760
The first one sounds rather nice.
The others...meh.
>Loyalist WB are Grey Knights....
>>46861002
>Word Bearers loyalist
Ashen Circle veteran from the Imperial Herald days. Has PE(Traitors), Iconoclast wargear, 3 phosphex bombs, rad grenades, a power fist and Crusader.
Makes Ashen Circle troops and allies within 12" can reroll failed charge distances and sweep advances.
>>46861857
Why not?
Would just be a lot of fun.
Unsure about the ahsen circle though, as that is allready Zardus gig.
>>46861748
>I have no problem with those pauldrons.
The marine in the middle's pauldron is bigger than his left one, and it's zogging 'uge.
>Or that they are completely green on Istvaan 3.
Maybe they got into a paint accident before they landed on the planet.
>But holy fuck, that finger sure is corrupted.
Heresy does that.
>>46861892
Fuck Zardu Layak! Show him what a true Iconoclast looks like!
>>46861760
>>46861815
>Loyalist IW are just normal IW but fucking cooler
>>46861928
Heh, first the UM traitor destroyers, now Ashen Circle companies. I just want to play some good Destroyer corps, man. But I find no incentive for running them, not even as the DG (I like Wardens better)
If Astartes are an elite strike force meant to spearhead and quickly bring a world to compliance, why bother making them fort builders at all?
>Checkmate Dorn
>>46861928
Yah.
On that matter, I like Hol Beloths rules a lot.
How does fighting with two specialist weapons work again?
He probabl has to make all attacks with either his power fist OR the tainted weapon as otherwise Horus and Dynats weapon master future would be moot.
>>46861998
Marines can do everything because they were designed to excel at everything. What good is a conquered empire if you leave it as burning ruins. That's THE one flaw of the IW and AL.
>>46861998
Building forts lets you know exactly how to take them down.
>>46861998
Nobody said you had to bring a world to compliance quickly (provided you weren't wasting time building cities to worship the emperor), just ensure that they were brought to compliance.
>>46861998
If Astartes are an elite strike force meant to spearhead and quickly bring a world to compliance, why bother killing all of them off, and decimating 1/10th of a legion?
>Checkmate Pert
>>46862029
> destroying worlds is a flaw of the IW
> but not the WE apparently
More old-school bolters.
Out of curiosity how does everyone else run their praetor?
>Jetbike
>Iron Halo
>Master-Crafted Thunder Hammer (due to the fact that knocking opponents down to I 1 doesn't benefit me much a fist is better but I like the hammer)
>Paragon Blade
>Digital Lasers
>Sonic Shrieker
Use the Orphans of Betrayal RoW for a 4+ FnP, stick him with honour guard armed with power fists and combat shields and with 2 champions with phoenix spears on jetbikes.
Pretty hilarious
>Drags enemy WS down by 1 (hits praetors and champions on a 3+)
>T 5 with a 4++ invul and 4+ FnP means only 1 in 4 attacks to wound him will even get through to FnP and invul
>Bodyguards will mince anything short of 2 wound terminators often before they can hit back meaning even if he doesn't kill his opponent outright they will probably run and be cut down as they flee
Costs like 1000 points with his entourage so I only use him at 2500 points and above but fuck is he glorious.
>>46862171
Exactly the same, except no master crafting, meltabombs and a cyber eagle instead of shriekers. It's one of the best loadouts for a praetor, and is fluffy as fuck as well for white scars.
He deepstrikes or outflanks in with his lads next to something that needed to disappear yesterday, recon squads are heroic bastards who aint afraid to sit next to a spartan for a turn or two.
Chogorian brotherhood for life, hit and run + furious charge + power lance vets is ridiculously good at deleting 20 man blobs.
>>46862087
>World Eaters
>can't even swallow a moon
>>46861998
>"Simple slaughter is no foundation for lasting conquest. Once the blades red duty is complete, the true work of conquest begins with the raising of new strongholds, leaving the Imperium's stamp upon it's new domain."
>>46862304
>tfw no saturnine
>tfw no tactical assault moon
get your shit together Forge World
>>46862275
>power lance vets
Vets can't take power lances. Book specifically mentions that power weapons only include axes, swords, and mauls.
>>46861998
>an elite strike force meant to spearhead and quickly bring a world to compliance
Because this is the time that they're 100'000-strong legions designed to take the galaxy by storm and bind it to the Emperor's will
>>46862348
Which book's that? The red book includes power lances as weapons you can find rules for in the warhammer 40,000 rule book, so I just assumed you could take lances.
>>46862348
>>46862433
Wait no just found it, that's fucking gay, why even mention them if you cant take them?
>>46862433
The crusades army list book. Palatine Blades can at least explicitly take power spears/lances and the book points to the main rulebook for rules about power lances but seems to suggest that lances can't be taken as regular power weapons. If they can I may give my honour guard power spears just for aesthetics.
>>46862171
>praetor
My main HQ is a delegatus with two plasma pistols, otherwise I bring Sigismund.
There's one thing I want to know about BL. Why so many marines for miles in some of their art?
>Dorian Heresy
>Imperial Heresy
What about a heresy where Sanguinius is the traitor? He seems like a much more likely candidate for an alternative heresy than Dangerous Dorn.
>>46860155
Sleep well, /hhg/.
I am off.
>>46862588
All alternate heresies are shit, and when one really gets going all it does is shit up the place with loads of threads and shilling, like those fucking "lets roll up a special fucking snowflake chapter" threads
>>46862644
sleep tight anon, may scoria visit your dreams
>>46862171
Alpha Legion
>Iron Halo
>Paragon Blade
>Power Dagger
>Digital Lasers
>Venom Spheres if I have extra points
Dark Angels
>Iron Halo
>Paragon Blade
>Vokite Serpenta
>Digital Lasers
The Serpenta doesn't do much, but when you're a Terran Compliance vet, you do Terran Compliance things.
>>46862670
Please no, keep Mecha-Shrek away from me.
>>46862644
Dream of the Moon Wolves.
>>46862644
How long before FW releases an Astartes helicarrier?
>>46862683
Is an Iron halo basically an automatic take on a praetor? I don't think I've ever seen a praetor without one.
>>46862588
>What about a heresy where Sanguinius is the traitor?
You mean the Fabulous Hairesey? Where Sanguinius, Fulgrim, and Lion set about exterminating everyone in the galaxy who didn't have a glorious mane?
>>46862767
>Anyone ever.
>As good hair as the Emperor
Pick one.
>>46862683
>when you're a Terran Compliance vet
I actually run my Luna Wolves as an early crusade army. The core of the army is a praetor and his command squad with volkite chargers and serpentas, some basic tactical squads (newer units equipped with bolters), and some tactical support squads with volkite chargers and calivers. Throw in some vehicles and yeah, pretty much my list.
Also when did terminator armour come about? Was it with the marines from the start or was it a later development?
>>46862767
>everyone in the galaxy who didn't have a glorious mane?
Have you not seen the Emperor's wild man hair?
>>46862804
But the Emperor was misguided, he allowed those with no hair or crappy hair to live. Why should humanity have to deal with the blight that is Lorgar's cueball head or Perturabo shoving wires into his gross hairless scalp?
>>46862758
That could make sense. A platform to insert and supply smaller atmospheric craft. With a fuckheug mainline gun for blasting titans over the horizon.
Turns out the Khan does have a helmet. So that's Fulgrim, El'Johnson, Lorgar, Alpharius, Leman, an d now the Khan's helmets taken care of. Who hasn't been checked off yet?
>>46862576
It's either that, or skulls.
>>46862760
Unless you give them Cataphractii or some manner of 3++, it's an auto take.
>>46862885
But why?
>>46862873
Forgot Vulkan.
>>46862873
Ferrus.
>>46862920
Avoiding head jokes there needs to be art of a helmet for Ferrus.
How come White Scars, Thousand Sons, and Blood Angels aren't battle brothers? You'd think with them founding the librarius together they'd be closer. Not to mention White Scars and Blood Angels were at the siege together, and Magnus was like Khans best buddy wasn't he?
>>46862087
>> but not the WE apparently
WE too, but that wasn't their "only" flaw. They had many. Arguably, being too savage was a problem for the SW too, like the time Russ attacks some TSons that were holding an enemy library AFTER the war had ended, simply because he wanted the enemy utterly erased. Unnecesary zeal.
>>46862838
Hang on a second.
>Dorn exiled the bald Sigismund from the IF
>That goddamn moustache
Does Dorn turn hairetic and Sigismund leads an internal crusade against him in this scenario?
>>46862913
Why so many? Also notice the SoH with the hair. I think he's the same one from this picture.
>>46862913
Who are those grey marines fighting the DG meant to be? Also pearly white DG is sexy, I only just noticed.
>>46862984
I think those are the SoHs.
>>46862760
If you don't intend to use them against other beatsticks you probably don't really need one. So if you want a cheap praetor that can cut down champions, centurions, and random mooks I would probably go with just a paragon blade. 125 points and you get 5 attacks on the charge. Sure a good praetor will rape you but he can still murder practically anything that isn't a praetor in a challenge.
>>46862975
Is that pic mislabeled? isn't that the cover of HR? So that fortress would more likely be the palace of the False Emperor on 63-19 not the Auretian Techs?
>>46862576
its supposed to make it look 'epic'
>>46862838
I always thought Perturabo and Angron would have had magnificent manes, but it wasn't so because of their tubes.
>>46863038
That's the filename I got when I saved it.
>>46863043
It's failing.
>>46862576
>>46862913
>>46862975
>>46863068
Looks like those marines all were pushing to fit in the public transport
>>46863068
yeah, it often does. Hence 'supposed'
Can I get that quote of a sentient Imperator Titan presenting itself before the Warmaster? I forgot where did I read it.
>>46862954
Shit I think we might have something.
>Emperor tries to keep peace among his differently haired sons
>War is kicked off when Blood/Dark Angels, and Emperor's Children murder a bunch of Word Bearers and Iron Hands for having no hair
>As the war rages on Dorn begins to fall to the Dark side. Believing that the only true hair is manly facial hair he is joined by Leman Russ and proceeds to carry out an Isstvan attack on the bald members of his legion, Sigismund leads the bald marines in defending against their more hirsute brothers
>During the siege of Terra the Emperor has lost the support of all of his sons except his bald sons
>Teleports onto Sanguinius' flagship alongside his Custodes, Lorgar, and Horus
>Horus finds Sanguinius first, but Sanguinius goes full SSJ and kills Horus
>Emperor battles Sanguinius but cannot bring himself to slay his prettiest son
>Eventually a custodes who just got his hair did jumps between them and has his scalp ripped off by Sanguinius
>Realizing that his son is beyond redemption the Emperor destroys him with a psychic blast
>>46863127
I hate to imagine that Thunder Hawk having to carry that many marines. However loyal WEs seem to have clown car logic down pat.
>>46863129
What's the worst out of BL's art?
>>46863163
>Believing that the only true hair is manly facial hair he is joined by Leman Russ
You mean the only Viking that had no facial hair?
Also, I heard Lorgar used to have a mane but went bald after Monarchia. Is this true?
>>46863166
SW, on the other hand, have the old Ork battlewagon mentality of "put as many marines on there as will stay on."
>>46863163
What do the Chaos Gods make of this?
>>46863238
I think the clown car logic is better.
>>46863242
That Abby's topknot is good enough for them.
>>46863238
This fucking thing better get rules for everyone in book 7. This game really needs a way to buy a DT for tacblobs.
>>46863290
>Book 7 is out
>SW get Assault Clown Rhino DTs, Whirlwind Scorpius on squadrons up to three and free chainaxes
>Land Raiders retconned to have 8 troop transport capacity
:^)
>>46863271
>That Abby's topknot is good enough for them.
I bet Slaanesh turns full renegade and wars against both the Emperor and K, N & T
>>46863363
Let it be so.
Re-reading this great comic but then I saw this part. I thought Cataphractii couldn't run let alone climb.
>>46863743
zero gravity
>>46863219
You know how Lorgar is supposedly the primarch that most resembles the Emperor? Well, it used to be when people said that they weren't talking about his face but his long, luxuriant mane of dark hair.
But then one day following a compliance he'd prosecuted in conjunction with the World Eaters he was giving one of his really long speeches and eventually Angron's patience gave out and he told him to wrap it the fuck up. Without thinking Lorgar turned to him and said 'don't get short with me.'
He was immediately tackled (by the leg) and scalped by Gorefather's screaming blades. The space marines killed everyone present at the address to keep word of what had happened from filtering out, but even though his wounds healed not a single hair ever grew from Lorgar's scalp again, and he had to play it off like he'd decided to shave it as a sign of humility.
We don't know (and never dared ask) what Angron ever did with his bloody prize.
>>46863743
Must be WS disguising themselves as Ultras for some reason.
>>46863796
That's a good enough reason for me, but one of those termie has claws. Didn't think lightning claws were meant for climbing.
>>46863238
>>46863333
I'm going to modify my Rhinos and marines to fit on the sides of the Rhinos with a little step and have an open hand on the model grasp the RT style guard rail.
Should be able to fit at least 3 on each side with 25mm. Maybe I'll cheat and magnetize them too.
>>46863743
Forgive my new. What comic?
>>46864004
Maccarge's Honor.
>>46864004
Macragge's Honour. Marius Gage takes the eponymous battle barge and chases down Kor Phaeron aboard the Infidus Imperator following Calth.
>>46863870
>We don't know (and never dared ask) what Angron ever did with his bloody prize.
It's not exactly hidden, you daft, unobservant World Eater brute.
>>46864066
>>46863870
And this is now canon.
>>46864121
Who has the good hair, Alpharius or Omegronor Sigmar?
>>46864293
They're all shaven so they can wear wigs as needed, for disguising purposes.
Or they can eat your flesh and look like you, because BL novels
>>46864293
Genevieve is suppose to look like Horus who was bald so maybe he's bald too.
Or you know wigs like the other guy said.
>>46862975
>Also notice the SoH with the hair. I think he's the same one from this picture.
Hairson was the hero the Imperium needs. So he became the villain they deserved.
Do you need to have a HQ from each legion you want to run in a shattered legions army? Because the wording of the book implies so but I've seen people saying that you only need a HQ in order to take special units from that legion
If SW get the same Chainaxe rule as WE how much shitposing will there be
>>46864703
Some people think you need a HQ for any legion unit eg. EC Tactical blob an some think you need a HQ only legion specific units eg. Palatine blades.
>>46864703
I don't think you do but I didn't read the rules in depth for SL. The entire purpose fluff wise of SL is that multiple legions lost their commanders so are rallying under a different legion's force commander. For example, the highest authority for Istvaan's SL was an Iron Hands. So the HQ would've been the IH IC and the legion contained RG, Salamanders, IH.
>>46864368
>that feel when Judge Tyrant finds you in contempt of swarm
We should never have them consume a Barristoreum.
So, how big of a no-no would it be to use the storm bolter as a terminator combi-bolter? I wanted something other than the tigris or phobos combi-bolters, but couldn't find anything else, and the CSM ones are way too Chaos for my Imperial scum taste.
>>46864903
That shit's literally the fucking same thing, physics and model wise. It's just that they arbitrarily made Storm Bolters assault weapons and put a large box cover around the barrels.
>>46864903
Depending on your Legion you could fluff it out as a new prototype
>>46864903
/tg/s mods will give out your IP and we will be forced to track you down and take your model collection away for your crimes.
>>46864609
We need stats for him now.
>>46864813
Same amount but hopefully FW will make it clear this time and clear up the WE problem.
>>46864893
>mfw
>>46864903
Pic related is the original Tartaros terminators, made for 40k, before 30k and combi-bolters for loyalists existed. They come with "storm bolters".
They look exactly like 30k Tartaros/Tigrus combi-bolters.
>>46864903
Your marine has got an artificer-crafted combi-bolter. In later years the information from this design will be used in the creation of the stormbolter, but for the most part is the same. The different internals were designed by another artificer, yours just did the outside look
>>46864903
It wont fit on cataphractii armour or tartaros, but theres no reason not to use it with your indominitus
>>46864930
Not entirely. Combi-bolter is two bolters firing like any other twin-linked weapon. Storm bolters are purpose built weapons that fire the barrels consecutively, giving them a high rate of fire (which is why they get assault instead of TL rapid fire).
>>46865004
Fit how? In style?
>>46865057
No as in the model arms and pauldrons are actually different sizes, so it wont physically fit
>>46865105
I'm not talking about the arm, I'm talking about the gun. The gun can be removed and planted onto a new hand/arm. That's no problem.
>>46865137
Oh yeah then, go for it, would be nice to see some variation
>>46864903
Storm bolters? In muh "Historical reenactment 30k - the game"?
What the fuck did you just fucking say about combi-bolters, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I was exhalted top of my chapter in the Terminator corps, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-fa legion, and I have over 300 confirmed 6's. I am trained in combi-bolter warfare and I’m the top shooter in the entire IF armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with BS5 the likes of which has never been seen before on this galaxy, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with trying to use storm bolters over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of beakies across Terra and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Imperial Fist Legiones Astartes and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>46865188
That UM is simply my homeboy, pay no attention to him.
>>46865034
Then explain this.
>>46865188
>Complains about storm bolters
>posts MKVII armour
Other than that quality pasta 9/10 woulddecimateagain
>>46864813
Multiple units have rules with the same wording as those chainaxes, it has already spread.
>>46865227
Dat over-under TL bolter configuration. Source plz?
>>46865227
Anon, even the person who created that can't explain it. It simply does not operate within the laws of this universe.
>>46865227
>>46865343
What >>46865034 means is that Combi-bolters shoot both barrels at the same time, while storm bolters shoot consecutive one after another (or at least this is what should happen).
>>46865227
>power armoured units can't use terminator combi-bolter
>power armoured units can use terminator storm bolter just fine
>>46865269
Dawn of the Chainaxe
>>46865386
Look at the image. Simultaneous firing of a staggered combi-bolter results in consecutive shots.
>>46865386
Yeah, but how does that explain >>46865227? How do you load both barrels from the same magazine? The cartridge loaded into the top barrel would have to pass through all the working parts of the bottom barrel to reach the upper breech.
It's fucking Krieg space heresy.
>>46862767
Curze: Can I join your hairesy guys?
No.
>>46865438
Maybe the drum is divided into halves and one half loads the bottom barrel other half loads top?
Anyone have donutsteel Lost Legions here? Tell me about them, I need to know for reasons.
>>46865467
And how does the other half of the drum teleport the bolts to the top barrel?
>>46865438
This is why the revenebo-style two magazines is a thing. Doesn't even impact aiming, since the bolter is linked to the tech in your helmet.
Planning an BS Outlanders with the Reaver because teleporting looks cool, is there any infantry that works well with DSing I was thinking seekers loaded with combi-plasma would work like 40k Sternguard. Also any idea how to model the Nemean Reaver?
>>46865665
But that has the barrels next to each other, like regular storm/combi-bolters, so they can get fed by two magazines from below.
Or in case of dreadnought storm bolters, by a single ammo chute through the ass. Because that's how guns work!
>>46865755
>Because that's how guns work!
Imperials also have a waaagh field.
>>46865497
I have one getting close to being 100% fluff out. I made Irish marines excelling at urban warfare and heavy firepower, and with a chaplain Moriat combo in one company.
>>46865879
>Irish marines excelling at urban warfare
So you made the IRA, are they fighting for freedom from the tyrannical Emperor
>>46865879
>Irish marines excelling at urban warfare
I hope you got vigilators.
>>46865958
That wasn't my intention.
>>46865972
I can add a lot of them.
>>46865958
Never give an Irishman a cause for revenge.
>>46865755
Anything other than muzzle loading is wrong. Break action is fine, given how it's reverse muzzle loading.
>>46865788
The Imperium has always had a Waagh field.
Machinery develop Machine Spirits due to the sheer amount of love, reverence and belief the AdMech pours onto each of their creations.
Space marines get enviable mental fortitude.
Sororitas can even pull some faith-based shenanigans that are clearly warp based.
The Emperor does indeed protect.
>>46865958
>>46866096
Not even once
What if there are no chaos gods and warp shit only happens because imperials believe it will happen
>>46865702
This is how I imagine the Nemean Reaver. He can even scare legiones astartes, after all.
>>46866203
The Ultramarines actively hinder other space marines because they think they are the best ones, so everyone else gets downgraded to below UM level.
Their presence does indeed change the past.
>>46865497
Anyone who is playing Shattered Legions is actually playing The Coils of the Hydra - Electric Bogaloo anyway.
>>46866203
You mean what if the Emperor was right all along?
>>46865227
I always thought the box magazine actually looped around and fed both barrels simultaneously from the side. Can I get the source now, plz?
>>46862692
Different Anon, but I shit you not when I say that I have actually had a dream involving the Luna Wolves, I'll post it a bit later
>>46866441
You're in a HH thread asking for the source of a codex image that is very obviously from a FW HH book with the exact same yellow parchment background as every other HH book. The name of the bolter is even printed on the page for you.
Why the fuck haven't you just found the source for yourself yet, you faggot?
>>46866441
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-ES/Alpha-Legion-Head-Hunter-Kill-Team-Upgrade-Set
>>46866476
You the guy from the other thread with the dream about Abby and the Moon Wolves?
>>46866521
Sadly I'm not
>>46866557
Now I really starting to think something is going on with all the dreams.
>>46866585
Well when this is the main thing on your mind is the glory of mankind, it's amazing what you'll dream about
>>46866605
Holy shit is missed typed that
>>46866638
>is
I have to stop typing from my phone
>>46866605
What does the Emperor being an insurance salesman in the 1950s have to do with the glory of mankind?
>>46866585
The Emperor coming to our planet sending prophetic dreams ahead of him that are getting messed about by the warp?
>>46866699
I claim the Trip-dubs for my theory.
>>46866680
Obviously it means that through him mankind's future will be insured
>>46866699
Satan tells the true for once.
>>46866773
Good enough for me. I still get a kick out of how even dressed as a normal businessman he had a halo above his hat. His wife was sort of nerdy and at least 5'7 while he was still 15 feet tall.
>>46861748
The artist designed the pauldron stat way
Look again they are facing with their left side toward the enemy using the larger pauldron as cover whilst they shoot from their right side
>>46866897
>Emperor's 15ft
>Wife 5'7"
That's got to make for some weird sex
>>46867023
All I know is they had two kids. That's all I say in the dream.
>>46867023
>>46866479
It's not like there's only one HH book, you know? It's 2 am here and I already went through book 3, 4 and 6 looking for the Headhunter's combibolter's. Already reverse googled it by image and by name. I thought you could use your memory and at least say "book 5" or something like that, but I guess you're too much of a dick who thinks each and every question is a request for spoonfeeding.
>>46867023
The Emperor was the most powerful psyker in history, he was therefore a master of biomancy and could alter his form to whatever he desired. I'm guessing that was the only way he could have sex with non-raging-whores.
>>46866605
I dreamed about Kid Scoria. That can mean anything except the well-being of mankind.
>>46867114
That's how it happened most likely. Emps is a psyker so probably made himself smaller so he wouldn't make her too uncomfortable.
>>46867156
It means you're probably the ancestor of Scoria.
>>46867176
No, they'll just loosen her up with biomancy.
>>46866918
Yeah, they're hip-firing at the front. They should rotate their torsos so that they can use the pauldrons as a makeshift shield as you point out, but meh, I took that picture as rule of cool anyway.
>>46867205
>>46865438
>>46865525
It's Kraut Space magic. The magazine just feeds two rounds upwards each time the breech opens.
I would explain the process more thoroughly, but I cannot reveal such secrets to one so uninitiated into the secrets of the machine as oneself.
>>46867284
Know your genes will allow one of the greatest scientists and monsters the galaxy has ever known.
>>46867156
>>46867205
Scoria is love
Scoria is life
>>46867329
>implying this isnt scoria in disguise
>implying it isn't powered by daemons
>>46867394
I swear on the Throne if we don't get a 30k vidya game and he isn't in I will use my rage to go psyker, and tear holes in the fabric of time with my mind so I can fix said mistake.
Model wearing Cataphractii Primus. Does he use the wargear list for termies or regular ICs?
>>46867439
>character with literally one paragraph of fluff written about him
>appearing in another one of GW's we need quick money: the game
Not happening anon, Scoria's a fucking nobody in truth. They'll just re-hash more HH:drop assault games where primarchs and other big characters take the limelight
>>46867581
I'd assume termie gear, as it's referred to as termie armour in the entry isn't it?You better be using that in a campaign though because using it anywhere else requires the consent of your opponent anon you cheeky sausage
