Beware the Cry of the Bearversor Edition
I have no head, you got eaten by a sword! We're both having a bad day Sub-Edition
In the old thread we made a monster that's part Prizzly Bear and part Eversor, Scoria trademarked it, we had an armor mark discussion that didn't devolve into a which mark is best debate, a new Iron Circle picture got made, we talked about chainfire and Moriats, FW has some pictures of 30k Wolves, and more in the old bread >>46832289
Red Book Links:
http://www2.zippyshare.com/v/s15Jqk1t/file.html
https://mega.nz/#!Jx1UGCTI!vMJN89z7p8tiEC7YOAj477g6RxDtJ7culVLF3q3godg
HH Book 6 - Retribution PDF:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8aqx9j3a8erqv8d/The_Horus_Heresy_Book_6_-_Retribution.pdf or
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkat.cr%2Fthe-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-pdf-t12199249.html
HHG FAQ - http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016) - http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf
Other official downloads: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads#horusheresy
HH Rules:
Crusade Army List: http://www.mediafire.com/download/1lprm5vd99yafa3/
Isstvan Campaign Legions: http://www.mediafire.com/download/deadtdf0y47k59k/
Mechanicum Taghmata Army List: https://mega.nz/#!LFwTjQ7B!mF0eVOY8P1MPT0a-QSXypXo_ZfskhYynD41PrkaTbD8
30k/40k Rules: https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!EVh0GZZS
30k/40k Rules and more (torrents): https://kat.cr/usearch/%22Forge%20World%22%20heresy%20user:epistolary/
30k Black Library: https://mega.nz/#F!0RlxDZQC!qAu9BaubWa3KeihJRmOcsg
How popular is HH in your area compared to 40k?
>>46844151
Path of Heaven is out tomorrow. Anyone planning to pick it up?
Speaking of Moriats I have a question. I know Sallies don't have any but how many would the Ultras have?
>>46844224
>Sallies don't have any
boo
>but how many would the Ultras have?
Guilliman was the one who developed the Moritat after fighting wargames against the Raven Guard, so they'd have a few
>>46844279
>boo
Imortan Vulkan cares about his children.
>Guilliman was the one who developed the Moritat after fighting wargames against the Raven Guard, so they'd have a few
Source?
>>46844090
Fuck the living.
Fuck the dead.
Black for life.
So Iron Circle look fantastic, but there's no fluffy way to field them in a pre-heresy detachment, right? Since they come from Pert's post-Phall paranoia?
Putting together Calth marines and having to cut and reposition every single arm to properly modl bolt pistols andFREEChainaxes.
>>46844344
He's got it backwards, Guilliman incorporated Moritats after Corax beat him repeatedly in wargames using Suicide Moritats.
I hear he also gave deepstriking squads combi-plasmas which is why it's now against the Codex Astartes.
>>46844545
>he's cc guys aren't in mixed mkIV/II allowing him to just use the plastic CSM arms
I'll bet you don't even use MkVII chests to denote Artificer Armor.
>>46844562
>I hear he also gave deepstriking squads combi-plasmas which is why it's now against the Codex Astartes.
>combi-plasma is not allowed
Now I know my second founding smurf chapter who's first chapter master doubted the Codex was right to doubt.
>>46844602
>World Eaters
>Aquila armor
What
>kharybdis assault claws cost 155 bongbucks
>spartan costs 105 bongbucks
WHYYYYYY
its like FW is forcing me to just go double spartan WE, fucking pricks... spartans are so much more boring.
>>46844344
Extermination. Corax and the RG implemented the first pass at the moritats and Guilliman developed them into use as a Legiones Astartes officer
>>46844654
>its like FW is forcing me to just go double spartan
A spartan?! Like a plebeian?! Why not dig a trench, fortify your position and charge from a giant fortress made of guns and hate?
>mfw their position isnt fortified
>>46844387
>Abaddon/Black Legion
It's funny to think that the crusade you accomplished the most in was the Great Crusade
White Forever
>>46844654
Storm eagles? Assault rams? Regular LR?
>>46844749
>Storm eagles? Assault rams?
both get shot down, explode, and kill all you dudes. also rely on reserve rolls and your best case scenario is turn 3 charges
>Regular LR?
are shit compared to spartans (also cost more than spartans, thanks china)
only option is 2 spartans with 20 terminators or 2 kharybdis with 20 terminators
>>46844814
or the secret 5 dreadclaw + 25 terminator option
>>46844814
>only option is 2 spartans with 20 terminators or 2 kharybdis with 20 terminators
Then I can't help you.
>also cost more than spartans, thanks china
Then why are you complaining about the price of the kharybdis?
>>46844905
>Then why are you complaining about the price of the kharybdis?
FWs stupid pricing on it means that those filthy chinamen can charge like $40 more for it than the comparable spartan.
>>46844936
It's still less than 155 britbongs, now isn't it? So buy the fucking pod and be happy. Or buy the spartans and whine some more about it on the internet. I'm dying to hear about how awful it is to field two spartans.
>>46845008
>I'm dying to hear about how awful it is to field two spartans.
kek
thats what really grinds my gears, the blatantly better option (that we are forced into) also costs $80 less. its like the universe is forcing me into running double spartans
>>46844814
>both get shot down, explode, and kill all you dudes.
Try killing enemy AA. I have zero problem with my flyers living long enough to drop their payload.
>>46844205
Very popular.
With the introduction of "We are gonna go surfing, surfing 40k." Psychic powers in the geokinesis table, most of the chaos players left 40k for greener pastures.
I wish I could take this fat fuck as an HQ, seriously this plump little lad is better than the average consul.
>>46845074
I got two Phobos land raiders because I like the Phobos and fuck the Spartan.
People give GW shit for giving new units better rules to promote sales, but nobody says it about FW. If the regular dread wasn't pointless already, the new 10pts. more for vastly superior "shitty contemptor" has buried the boxnought for good. The Spartan is barely bigger than the Phobos and packs more guns, but can transport 150% more dudes. Not much point in fielding Predators when the Sicaran is so much better. Indomitus TDA is the shittiest suit hands down. Dreadclaws can be bought as Fast, but drop pods are limited to RoWs.
>>46845221
Take Primarch's chosen, then? It feels funny, I'm so loyal I know nothing about chaos stuff. I should study my enemy some more.
>>46845405
>Not much point in fielding Predators when the Sicaran
Sicaran isn't even that good the predator variants absolutely rape vehicles.
>>46845405
>I got two Phobos land raiders because I don't like attaching any Independent characters to Terminator squads :D
Fixed
>People give GW shit for giving new units better rules to promote sales, but nobody says it about FW. If the regular dread wasn't pointless already, the new 10pts. more for vastly superior "shitty contemptor" has buried the boxnought for good. The Spartan is barely bigger than the Phobos and packs more guns, but can transport 150% more dudes. Not much point in fielding Predators when the Sicaran is so much better. Indomitus TDA is the shittiest suit hands down. Dreadclaws can be bought as Fast, but drop pods are limited to RoWs.
I thought we all were aware of fielding "better than yours" minis was FW's sole means of making money. That's why it was banned for long.
>>46844872Shhh! What did Mr. Rocha told you about opening your mouth! It's like Rule #1 dude, what the fuck.
>>46845405
>I got two Phobos land raiders because I like the Phobos and fuck the Spartan.
its ok bro, its safe here... you can admit you just got them because you didnt know about china :^)
seriously though LGSs across the world are still pissed at FW for pulling shit like this... its just irrelevant now since GW does it even more so.
>>46845221
How many Gal Vorbark were there anyway?
>>46845435
>Fixed
Terminator command squad.
>>46843671
>Some kill to remember
>Some kill to forget
>So I called the Consul: "Please bring me my wine"
>He said, "We haven't had that spirit here the Dark Age of Technology"
>And still those voices are calling from far away
>Wake you up in the middle of the night
>Just to hear them say
>"Welcome to the house of Anny Scoria
>Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
>Such a lovely face :^)
>They living it up at the house of Anny Scoria
>What a nice surprise (what a nice surprise)
>Bring your STCs"
>Heresy on the ceiling, the pink champagne on ice.
>And she said: "We are all just prisoners here of our own device"
>And in Scoria's chambers, they gathered for the feast
>They stab it with their Paragon Blades, but they just can't kill the beast
>Last thing I remember, I was running for the door
>I had to find the warpgate back to the place I was before
>"Relax," said the Xanite, "We are programmed to receive
>You can checkout any time you like, but you can never leave!"
>>46844725
I like Mastodons. When the party bus gets wrecked you get to say
>"Just kidding, I was pretending to be a vehicle"
Lo and behold, you were driving a fort all along. Are you guys sure it wasn't invented by both Dorn and Pert?
>>46845724
They're not even sure. They overworked themselves that they forgot who put the finishing touches on it.
>>46843974
>Then some World Eater gets really, really pissed off and throws their shitty Legion Relic.
>It breaks the fortress and there's nothing Dorn can do about that
There is a (1/6)+(5/36) = 30% chance of you throwing it and actually DOING NOTHING, given how the effect only activates once it kills a model.
Even worse of a chance if a model with an invuln manages to stop the trident. Just imagine you throw the terrible trident of doom and pic related happens.
FUUUUU-
>>46845618
No more than a Chapter. The Blessed sons. After that, chaos thought there was no further need to grant 1st-grade daemons to bind to humans, and only regular possessed were made. Deluded fools.
>>46845618
Lore wise? Not many, they were only in the Serrated Suns, during the heresy they weren't in super short supply but shortly afterword they were hunted down to extinction.
>>46845429
>Sicaran isn't even that good the predator variants absolutely rape vehicles.
>Heavy 6 Rending "Fuck Jinking!" autocannon
>Lascannon sponsons
>Fast
Not everyone has access to BA Predators, you know!
>>46845897
>>46845903
Thanks.
Okay, headcount time, which legion does everyone here play? From my impression SoH are the most popular and nobody gives a shit about Salamanders
>>46845952
AL, but I started building the beginnings of a DA army with spares from a few Deathwing and BaC boxes.
>>46845952
Iron Warriors & Death Guard
I know, not the best legions to be. Nobody likes us :'(
>>46845630
Don't know. Either terminator legion specific get a base points discount and get reduced to 4 Termies base (see Deathshroud and old Justaerin), or, EASIER, we get 12-16 transport variants LRs.
>>46845930
Don't forget AV12 side and rear. And not 24" range in the case of the BA AC Predator.
>>46845952
a NIGGER primarch!
>>46846059
Make regular LR 12 like it was in 5e codex. Make Prometheus (already seen in FW's HH books) an option with an even larger capacity (just like how crusader has a larger capacity thanks to removing laser generators) and give it the option for augury web for reduced capacity, like the Proteus.
>>46846170
>tfw salamanders would be cool if they werent black
>>46846170
>>46846247
Salamanders aren't black, just sunburned.
>themoaryouknow.jpg
>>46844631
Artificer armors are specially made suits of exceptional quality. Thus it stands to reason that a number of advances that would become standardized in future marks would have first been seen in suits of Artificer Armor.
Also I've recently realized just how much I like MkVII torsos and appreciate the decorative possibilities in the chest piece.
>>46846170
Silly anon, Salamanders are simply white folks with radiation blackface, like >>46846270 says.
In the future, everyone is white, after all :^)
>>46846270
yeah its just shoepolish... still just imagine how cool theyd be.
>thor primarch
>obsessed with burning 'abhumans' to death
such wasted potential on the minstrel show legion
>>46845930
Predators
>Can be squadroned
>Can take an executioner plasma cannon for raping terminators and marines that 30k is full of
>Can take a heavy conversion beamer for killing heavy vehicles at range (always an issue in 30k) and IDing toughness 5 multi-wound models
>Can take a magna melta cannon for when nobody in your meta takes ceramite because nobody takes melta weapons because they are worried about ceramite
>75 points base
The fact that predators are 75 points base is pretty big even with the most expensive main gun they are still cheaper than a naked sicaran. I would prefer the more versatile option, plus I don't care for rending unless it is like 40 shots or like 20 guys in CC with rending.
>>46846301
>In the future, everyone is white, after all :^)
I was gonna argue but then I remembered the feather nigger legion are LITERALLY white.
>>46846301
>white scars
>literally finland in space
>white
>>46846408
>>46845435
>I thought we all were aware of fielding "better than yours" minis was FW's sole means of making money. That's why it was banned for long.
But it wasn't. At all. For years FW was a byword for overpriced and under-performing vehicles and cumbersome rules for planes, giant machines, and huge monsters.
The overpowered stuff was by far the exception.
>>46846327
>Thor Primarch
>thinking Vulkan should be that when we already have one Viking Primarch already
>>46846301
Explain White Scars.
>>46846516
WHITE Scars. See, still technically white :^)
>>46846408
>literally finland in space
That's a weird way to spell Mongolia.
>>46846516
>thinking Vulkan should be that when we already have one Viking Primarch already
who? ferrus?
vikings arent furries :^)
>>46846577
thats what i said, finland.
>>46846533
Riiiiigggghhhttt.
>>46846626
>vikings arent furries :^)
If I had a choice between fixing all of 40k's problems, making sure autism never existed, or preventing the wolf this to the maximum overwolf from happening I'd be stuck in a rock in a hard place. On the plus side making sure autism never existed would help the fanbase and this site's problems, but the overwolf problem would still exist.
which legion is the most laconic?
>>46846758
Someone post the IWs trolling the Night Lords on Isstvan
>>46846516
>>46846482
>>46846408
>>46846577
>Explain White Scars.
White dudes squinting in space ¦^) , blinded by the racial purity of the future.
See? As white as Finland.
>>46846804
I got IW trolling WB
>>46846810
>>46846804
>>46846832
I never cared for those preacher boys anyway.
>>46846841
My fucking sides, man!
>>46846832
Ah, that's what I meant. Fuckin kek
>>46846832
Fucking IW's are so lost in autism they probably think friendly fire is motivating.
>>46846885
No. They're finally unleashing their bitterness on anyone who's ever wronged them. That's pretty much everyone.
>>46846980
they shoulda started with pert
everything about the IW is cool except pert
>>46846279
No I understand that, its just jarring to think of WE with a giant aquila on their chests. Personally I use MK8 in some sergeants, mainly because it looks cool and if I ever want them to be artificer theres the visual representation.
>>46846832
>We are all bleeding today
>Have faith Word Bearer
I'm imagining that in a Russian accent.
I just realized that the Iron Warriors are the legion for me. I'm the only quality assurance tech working at this factory that's starting up. I'm thanklessly collecting all sorts of data and doing so much destructive testing, while the engineer I work for might not even know how to read a print for all that I've seen him do. I'm becoming increasingly bitter and I know that I will get no recognition for all the overtime I've put in. I think I need to just embrace it and ride the iron fire.
>>46847049
They would have but they had too much hate within them. Plus not to mention they were backed into a corner made by the Word Bearsx
>>46847074
Iron Within Iron Without brother
>>46846885
>>46847054
Shooting at enemies in a way that they crash onto some allies isn't friendly fire!
>Perty tells us "Fuck the Emperor, we're on Horus' side now. Also, you could be better than what you are!"
>We escape before he decides another decimation is on order
>At_least_we're_not_doing_the_earthworks_this_time.jpeg
>On the way to Istvaan V, some Gal Vorbak flash us
>"Envious of my chaotic boons? Kekekek...." he exclaims, while shaking his heretical derriere, doing weird faces, as if sanity was for the weak.
>A Night Lords ship gets on level with our's
>Their side-gate opens and we see 20 NLs looking out of the newly formed window.
>"Hey, Ironboi! Lookit these sweet Trophies of Judgement. They remind me of someone. Oh right, YOUR FACE! Nice Star, faggot!"
>Fucking_one_star.jpeg
>I won't forget any of those faggots.
>We have made landfall and we procede to do our duty
>Catch a glimpse of loyalist craft flying overhead
>A quick glance at the battlefield shows me those same faggots got deployed not too far from each other.
>I do some quick maths on the fly, so they crash precisely where I want them to. It's quite easy.
>At least I inherited something good out of him.
>I call my Iron Havocs to take the shots. The loyalist craft explode and their wreckages crash directly on top of those faggots
>I_like_the_way_you_die_boy,jpeg
See? It was fucking unfriendly fire >:^)
>>46847074
Welcome to the party, brother! Take some hazzard stripes and join the fun!
>>46847074
>embrace it and ride the iron fire.
Ride it hard you heretic scum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsEWcgZ6hBE
>>46846727
What if the overwolf problem was caused by autism?
>>46846832
Nobody likes Kor Phaeron. Even people who don't know who he his who are firing blindly on his position.
>>46847223
Would idiotic Britbongs mistaking going overboard with a theme be counted as autism?
>>46847270
yeah pretty much
>>46847306
At least 79% of the problems would be fixed.
Does compulsory troop mean that I have to take them as 2 units for my troop slots or does it mean that I can take them as my 2 min troop choices?
>>46844151
Everyday Life with Legiones Astartes!
Malcador inquisitive organization has selected you, Knight Errant, to take an oath of moment and participate in the cultural exchange program, where you'll live with a loyalist element from a traitor legion. Who knows, in the end a legionnaire might be assigned as part of your retinue!
>>46847564
>bird not raven guard
>snake not alpha legion
>horse not white scars
Shouldn't those have been obvious choices?
>>46847638
>traitor legion exchange program
>>46847664
Yes, and?
>>46847793
That and I cobbled it up together in like 5 min, using FW images that fitted the poses.
>>46847530
As far as I can tell, there's no real consensus. I interpret it as being that they can be taken for your 2 min troop choices.
>>46847530
Most FOC have you take at least two troops choices. These are your compulsory troops, and can be filled by any troops choice unless it's a DT or it has, for example, the "Support Squad" special rule.
>>46847530
Does it say "May be taken as compulsory troops" or "Must be taken as compulsory troops"?
>>46848092
I remember when I was learning Chinese the biggest mindfuck was when I learned that in Chinese there was only one word to describe both letting someone do something and making someone do something. At least we don't have to get our rules from Chinaman.
>>46848092
Must for Pride of Legion.
Can someone post the pic "The many faces of Perturabo"?
Can someone do me a favour and post the Primarch autism pic? Can't be found outside the Eye of Terror.
>>46846626
when was the last time you saw an eskimo on a horse?
>>46845952
>>46846008
I am equally fucked: IW and WE...
>>46847564
>shitlord legion for Waiforea
>all traitor scum
Traitorfags confirmed for faglords. But then what else did you expect with them liking traitor legions and shitty anime?
>>46845819
Mastodon gun platform when?
>>46845952
Iron Warriors and Alpha Legionand seriously considering Sons of Horus too
>>46846008
>>46849533
At least DG and WE have nice color schemes.
>>46849621
That's retarded. The Mastodon is a pure breaching instrument. That's like saying "where's my castle made out of guns".
>>46849691
>not making your fortresses out of guns
I don't understand.
>>46849788
>not...guns
I don't either. Maybe if we added more guns?
>>46849825
>mastodon gun platform
This is a good start. But how do we bring it into the realm of full retard 40k/30k?
>>46849932
Put skulls on all the flat surfaces and use corpses for ablative/reactive brick armor.
>>46849974
>an answer other than "More armor" or "More guns"
DECIMATION
>alternatively
REPORT TO THE PAIN GLOVE
>>46849621
>replace transport space with 4-barreled warlord volcano cannons
>replace top AA gun with a vortex missile
Because fuck you, that's why.
>>46850062
>>replace top AA gun with a vortex missile
>not a missile battery that houses multiple vortex missiles
Do you even ride the storm?
>>46849974
>corpses for ablative/reactive brick armor.
Continue
>>46850043
>replace the additional armor with guns
>gun-porcupine tank
>>46850119
>>46850120
>no armor
>just guns
>guns all have massive power bayonets
Just drive real fast into shit while the gunners are firing as fast as they can.
>>46850133
Sadly there's no black people in 30k/40k to use as human shields.
>>46850133
Excellent
>>46850139
>>no armor
>>just guns
>>guns all have massive power bayonets
>Just drive real fast into shit while the gunners are firing as fast as they can.
I just used battering rams in Age of Empires, which I hadn't played in a looooong time. I was Mongolian, so, hillariously, those rams were as fast as goddamed horses.
I seriously want to ram buildings to death using Triarii and White Scar allies
>>46850085
I would have said the Apocalypse Missile Battery, but I think the mounting point is too small for such a large weapon. A vortex missile is just the size of a deathstrike missile.
>>46849621
>>46849691
We call them "Ordinatus". Our enemies call it "So that's how I get tabled, huh?"
>>46850157
May this offering please you, and so, be banished!
>>46849681
>Iron Warriors and Alpha Legion
Do your guys also get fed up with each other so much one of them goes Loyalist out of spite?
>>46850222
Just got mine!
>>46844151
Sorry I'm late!
Thread theme:
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=74J8Dl2ib-s
>>46850707
>pat benatar
yessss
I'm afraid of sleeping.
I'm afraid of dreaming of the Emperor's smile, or about Kid Scoria, or about Luna Wolves. Or whatever Curzefag dreams about. Especially about what Curzefag dreams about.
>>46850936
If you can stay awake a few hours longer, Path of Heaven will be out. Someone on here will honor the Scanon's wishes and drop a copy, and then no-one will be sleeping.
>>46850973
But don't I have to read ALL other BL novels first (except Descent of Angels, people say it is irrelevant)?
I got hooked to this because of the fluff, and came to love it because of the rulebooks and the hobby, but my true calling is to post dank memes. Hydra memenatus.
>>46845952
IW, WE & DG.
>>46851166
All you need is SoH then you can reenact the Istvaan III atrocity
>>46846832
Maximus kek, gotta love the corpse grinders.
>>46847074
Welcome aboard the decimation train brother.
>>46851203
So, IW instead of EC?
>Sir, we're ready to drop the virus bombs
>What do you mean virus bombs, brother? We already won!
>Wha-How come you're back on the ships so quickly?!
>Pfft, those Iron Warriors broke Istvaan fortifications like they were made of eggshells. Anyway, what did I miss
>N-no, nothing...
>>46845952
Iron Warriors and Death Guard reporting in
>>46844151
Hey /hhg/, relative noob here. I finally decided on a legion I will call my own. I have chosen the Death Guard
Now the question stands: loyalist or traitor?
>>46851203
Indeed, I might do a small Justarian army since I already got Horus. Gotta expand my IW & DG first thought.
>>46851242
Traitor all the way.
Then you can be friend with Scoria.
>>46851236
Double brother! :D
>>46851242
LOYALIST (you can still use the traitor characters by pretending it's early crusade and stuff). And Crysos Morturg is awesome.
>>46851242
Traitor, all the poison all the time.
>yfw red books have a digital version now
Thanks rountree!
http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/hh-cod-sup/HH-taghmata-army-list.html
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/path-of-heaven-ebook.html
>>46851982
Hey look, I can finally pay for the AdMech's red book.
>>46851744
>>46851982
>http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/hh-cod-sup/HH-taghmata-army-list.html
Digital eh? Fucking sweet!
>>46851982
Surprised to actually see a FW book available digitally, wonder if they'll port the others.
It's shame that the MKIII doesn't exist in hard plastic. Otherwise I would totally go for a Space Wolves MKIII army. I just can't see myself having an entire resin army, because I hate working with the material.
>>46852329
How bad is it?
Resin,that is?
I hope it will be manageable...
>>46852394
It's like cancer. Like flexible cancer full of bubble holes and deformities.
>>46852394
You have to adjust a lot of things into proper position by heating it, inhaling the dust from filing can cause resin poisoning which is like having tiny shards of glass clogging your lungs and it's more brittle than plastic sprue minis.
>>46852404
>>46852492
Fuck, this will be hard.
Will read up on tutorials about this.
>>46852507
https://youtu.be/4UNAjik9S80
This is what you can expect. Small figures are slightly more fiddly, but the general techniques are the same.
>>46852523
Thank you.
>>46852329
Doesnt exist yet
>>46852599
I wouldn't expect it to exist in a forseeable future either.
>>46852613
There's supposedly a new BaC Box out end of the year with all new models. Might be plastic Mk III in there.
>>46852624
MkII please.
>>46851982
So it's up. Well, I'll drop this once again just in case no-one got it the first time around, and ask that if the E-Copy of Path of Heaven is actually readable, that someone would please share a copy for me. I've burned my finances dry recently on even more HH stuff that will never be built or painted.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/v5yle326cg19gyk/Horus_Heresy_Masterclass.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/tw0xxbqdev3p8rm/Horus_Heresy_Masterclass_2.zip
>>46845952
Currently only IW
>>46852782
Someone uploaded it and even mentioned you.
I thought you got it.
>>46852836
Nope. When was this? Book only went on sale today.
>>46852849
There was talk about that BL deal were you get it earlier if you pay monthly stuff or sth like that.
I would not know.
I hope they put it somewhere acessible.
>>46852745
>Implying they won't make a fudged mix of Mk II and III so you can "use it as either!"
>>46852890
It has been confirmed to be MkV. Makes sense considering how similar it is to "modern" SM armor.
>>46852962
Oh!
Where did you read that?
This allows me to stop waiting and go for normal resin dudes NOW.
Not that I would not have preffered plastic MKII..
>>46844151
I actually have no problem with Perturabo's decimation fluff and I think it is within character.
I don't really understand why it's become one of our biggest memes desu.
>>46852962
>it has been confirmed
[citation needed]
this is the first I've heard of that
Question,
i got some DKoK Thudd gun mortars, would anybody object using them as Rapier battery Thuddguns? (provided with proper IW crew ofcourse)
There's no doubt that /tg/ loves Perturabo.
but what do you guys think of his portrayal in Angel Exterminatus? i personally love how he pounds fulgrims pretty boipucci twice.
>>46853273
Angel Exterminatus was an absolute crime against Perturabo. Credit goes to McNeil for his grand attempt to humanize the minds of the most mentally inhuman primarchs, but Occam's Razor applies here, as it always does in the mindset of the Iron Lord. Simplicity is the key, expedience the goal. His is a mind entirely composed of mathematical equations, looking at the world around him in angles and percentages, statistics and numbers. Emotion is unwelcome, an unfactorable variable, but it's always there, the ghost that haunts his finely tuned thoughts. He buried his dreams and his heart on Olympia's ridges, and willingly cut all ties and dived into Hell, because his Father asked him to. He murdered millions, because his father asked him to. He broke empires, shattered armies, and his Legion bore the most grievous wounds and losses, because his father asked him to. And he ignored the implications of it all, because his Father asked him to.
Do you honestly believe none of this ground into his long lost humanity, the empty core of his being that he cut out, because his Father asked him to?
He is War-Broken. We're talking about God-Level traumatic mental disorder here. Perturabo can't control his emotions at times. He stares out at nothingness, and speaks to his past. One moment, he's unreachable, and the next he's ripping your head off because you brought him bad news. He can become utterly lost in fine details, both in crafting weaponry, and tearing down citadels. It calms him, returns his mind back to the emotionless numbers that represent hundreds of thousands of his sons dying. The further detached he became from reality, the further he tried to hide from the horror he was crafting, the worse his emotions got.
And Perturabo still buried that shit. He moved forward. He got the damn job done, and the next, and the next, with precise equations and algorithms.
>>46853289
You made me want to start IW with that post. I love tragic, fucked up characters. That sounds fascinating.
>>46853323
>I love tragic, fucked up characters
Ahem
>>46853289
I felt the book did a good job of showing a being that wanted to be an artist and a builder but instead was broken by war into a cold hard numbers wrecker man because of his loyalty(so yes i believe it). I also felt his turn to Chaos was explained well because of his frustration and jealously.
>pic extremely related
How has nobody noticed this?
>>46853369
Problem is after comparing AE and Extermination I got the feeling those were two completely different characters. The AE Peturabo doesn't feel like the type to kill 10,000 of his own marines for the crime of being subpar.
>>46853289
>all this bullshit
This is how you see Perturabo, not how anyone else, and certainly not the writers of the lore see it.
Maybe you should write your own 50 shades of Perturabo if you're so upset
>>46846885
>friendly fire is motivating
>not riding the ironfire
>>46853289
I don't know it's just "because his father asked him to" - no-one could reach him, even on Olympia, though several tried.
Though it doesn't help that he was paranoid from the get-go, and after a while he worked out,on his own, that he was an artificially created being, and clearly wasn't made on Olympia - all that logic made him realise that, and it can't be good for your spirit, knowing you were made for a purpose, like a tool.
Also, logic + great intelligence and creativeness + paranoia is a bad, bad combination for those close to him - he can probably think of more and better ways and reasons to betray him than any of his men, even those that would try and do just that
>>46853369
>Imperial Fists steals the glory again.jpg
>>46850936
Just achieve remember the 36 Sermons of Vicec. It's what I do.
So forgeworld are dipping their toe into the ebooks market - taghmata red book on sale now
>>46853396
Yeah, I think the same as well.
>>46844207
HH Book 36: The Path of Heaven -
epub
http://www67.zippyshare.com/v/569jau0s/file.html
mobi
http://www67.zippyshare.com/v/iEWk4nrg/file.html
>>46853355
Checked.
Oh and don't worry, Night Lords fascinate me too. I would never play as them, but I love reading about them.
>>46853605
You sir are a godsend and a lifesaver. I salute you. You've given me the impetus to finish and drop the second volume of the limited edition of Visions of Heresy this week.
How fluff-breaking would it be to have a single Dreadclaw to transport my WE Cataphractii? I want to have my cake and eat it too by having my Cats, my Butchers, *and* my Contemptor-Mortis, but I can't take Cataphractii with a land raider and also have the dread, and footslogging is bad for obvious reasons. World Eaters are know for orbital assault, yea, but just one?
List looks like:
HQ:
Gahlan Surlak
Kharn w/ Gorechild
Troops:
Legion Tactical Squad x20, pistol and axe, Sergeant with AA and PF
Legion Tactical Squad x10, bolters
Elites:
Apothecary
Contemptor-Mortis with Kheres
Legion Terminator x5, 5x PF, 4x combi-plasma, Heavy Flamer
Red Butchers x5, 2x Power Axe for all, Devoured with Chainfist, Land Raider with Armored Ceramite
Fast Attack:
Anvillus-pattern Dreadclaw
Heavy:
Spartan with Ceramite, Flare Shield
Leviathan Siege Dreadnought, Ceramite, Grav-flux Bombard, Leviathan Siege Drill
2498 points
>>46853532
bloody fists, stealin' all the credit
>>46853629
>>46853605
Blesings upon you!
>>46844151
What form of warfare did Iron Hands specialise in?
I have asked this before and people have said "mechanised." But the problem with that was... isn't everyone mechanised? Every game I have seen has had dudes in vehicles and armour support.
Heck even in the fluff it seems mechanised is pretty common. Blokes in transports with armoured support.
Could any Iron Hands players shed some light on this for me? Thanks.
>>46853705
Lunar warfare.
>>46853705
High intensity war-warfare.
Get in and break through,fast.
IW are about grinding down, IH about smashing the opponent fast and completely.
Both accept losses, but Ferrus apparently thought that brutal and quickly ending engagements are preferable to attrition war-fare.
They used a lot of tanks and fancy tech to deliver that punch directly.
>>46853832
I see. Will FW ever stat lunar bodies do you think?
>>46853705
Iron Hands had more mechanised elements and were better at using them.
Its like how every legion had siege elements, recon elements, destroyers etc but some were better at them.
>>46845952
DG, though I ummed and erred about starting IW for almost a year before hand
>>46846008
>>46851236
>>46851166
muh 18th legionaries, I see im not alone in that choice
>>46853880
Never thougt you fume sniffers were that populous.
>>46853124
Because autists likes to shitpost what they think are other peoples husbandos? That seems kinda redundant, seeing as Black Library has been doing it for years now.
>>46853370
someone did on the end of the last thread
>>46853880
>18th
That's the salamanders.
XIV, 14, is Death Guard - are you tough and chemical, or tough and fiery?
>>46853921
I meant that in a manner similar to pic related
>>46853892
Never underestimate the infectious appeal of huffing paint and eating McDonald
Currently planning a blackshied army of Thunder Warriors, main thought going in is Pariah Power armour Tac supports with volkite chargers in a drop pod
Thinking the Chymarie buffs are a good point to start, wondering what /tg/ think the best buff would be to represent the thunder warriors
>>46853954
Jokes aside , DG are one of the coolest Legions with spiffy minis,rules and awesome special units.
Good choice, man!
>>46853705
Hand to hand combat
>>46853957
Thought about militia Ogryns coming closer to what TW probably were, except for shitty ld,ws and bs.
>>46852523
I am not very experienced.
It really seems as if BaC would be cheaper and have me fuck up stuff far less.
Maybe I wil order one of these 5man squads in resin to see how it works out.
>>46853985
Ps:
Chymeric Blackshields are also a very good choice.
>>46844151
Hey guys, I don't normally beg here. But my copy is in the post, so could some bro tier anon post a screen cap of the Mechanicum relics?
I would download it from the OP but I'm on my phone and for some reason Mega doesn't work on it. I dunno.
I would appreciate the help guys.
Pic is something I found on /x/.
Who has a bigger picture of the War Without End cover?
>>46854463
Found one. I like the Fist back there, and the Dangle's helmet.
Just finished path of Heaven. Holy shit. This is without a doubt one of the very best HH Books ever. I'm going to drop a few spoilers for those so inclined, but you really should read it.The Emperor created a Prototype Golden Throne inside a Warp Rift. Yesugei plugs himself into it and dies creating a Warp Path that sends the entire White Scar fleet to Terra.Eidolon is the main villain, him and Mortarion. Mortarion is at near-Peturabo levels of suspicion by this point, even his trust in Horus is eroded considerably, and he suspects Typhon plans to backstab himThe Swordstorm is lost in a suicide attack on Mortarion's Flagship to allow the rest of the fleet to escape. Torghun is killed by Mortarion, who boards the ship to find the Khan.At the very end, when the Khan's fleet arrives in the Sol System, they are intercepted by the Space Wolves. The Khan and Russ have an aweesome scene where a bloody and beaten Khan meets Russ.
‘You always were a pompous bastard,’ he said. ‘You come to my halls as a beggar and speak as if you owned them. Who else would dare it?’
The laughter subsided. Finally, he sheathed his blade. All across the bridge, bolters were lowered.
‘It would make me feel better to give you a fresh scar to remember me by,’ Russ said. ‘You might learn from it. But you look half dead already, and I have no wish to blunt my sword-edge on your scrawny neck.’Arvida joins the Knights Errant, just as the Flesh Change is about to consume him.
Me and a friend are playing our first 30k and our first game of warhammer in quite a while so we are a bit rusty. Whats a good mission and setup to start with just to get going?
We both got us some 1500p to play with
>>46854592
>Arvida joins the Knights Errant, just as the Flesh Change is about to consume him.
Proofs or it didn't happen. I have started reading it, but come on mang we need that Space Egyptian to create the galaxy's greatest band of thieves.
>The Emperor created a Prototype Golden Throne inside a Warp Rift.
I thought the Throne was something he just happened to find in the desert of Terra.
>>46854641
>other anon spoilers his stuff so he won't ruin the story for others
>immediately quotes stuff marked by spoilers
You are a dumbass.
>>46854592
Man, Russ continues to be an utter cunt
>>46854641The man lifted his arms slowly, showing he was unarmed.
‘This is the one?’ he asked. ‘The Prosperine sorcerer?’
‘I said, declare yourself.’
‘Khalid Hassan,’ said the man, peering past them at Arvida’s body. ‘Chosen of Malcador. I came out with the Wolves, for we had received auguries. Does he live?’
Naranbaatar kept the gauntlet raised. ‘He is one of ours. If even the Sigillite wishes him harm–’
‘Harm?’ asked Hassan. ‘Harm? No, my lords, you misunderstand this. He is sick – we know it. You cannot cure it. My master can help, though, and he wishes very much to. I do not think you know just what you have here. Believe me, we would not permit you to let him die.’
‘How did you get on the ship?’ asked Oskh.
‘That is my business. I would have done it openly, but you will appreciate the difficulties. If Lord Russ were to discover what you are keeping here...’
‘He will never do so.’
‘No, quite.’ Hassan lowered his arms. ‘Listen, you need do nothing now. There are more travelling with me, and they can help. It can all be done quietly, even if the Wolves circle you all the way to Terra. You will be taken to the Palace. The Sigillite will be waiting. He will speak to the Khan, all will be made clear then, but for now, just for now, do not obstruct this. Allow help to be given.’ Hassan placed his hands together. ‘There is no deception. We all wish for the same thing.’
Naranbaatar hesitated. The man before him was unshielded – his mind was open. Finally, he lowered his gauntlet.
‘His sickness is advanced. You say you can help?’
‘If you let us, but time is short.’
‘But what interest is this to you?’ interjected Oskh, his voice full of suspicion.
‘Because we have been waiting for him,’ said Hassan, looking past them at the unconscious Arvida, his expression close to reverence. ‘And now, at last, he is here.’
>>46854669
That's the story of my life.
>>46854690
Thanks.
>>46854641Jubal looked up at him. ‘There has not been the time to ask you, Khagan. You were on that place – Dark Glass. What was it?’
The Khan thought on that. Maybe only Yesugei really understood, and yet the machinery Jaghatai had witnessed in the lower shafts had told him much. It had surely all been part of the same project, the one that had taken his Father away from the Crusade, and that in time would have made the entire panoply of empire – the Navigators, the Legions, the warp engines of the Mechanicum, even the primarchs themselves – obsolete. No wonder it had been kept secret, a secrecy that had contributed so much to the years of suspicion and mistrust.
There had been betrayal before Horus, that much was clear. Perhaps the fruits of that were only now becoming evident.
‘It was a failure,’ the Khan said. ‘A dead end. We are left with what we see – our wars, our blades, our mutants. Our daemons.’
>>46854641
I thought the throne was built after the Siege upon his instructions, or at least modified to seat him, before that he was just kept in stasis.
But then I remember he's one of many immortals and got his power from the dark gods, and I permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will put on my nostalgia goggles and see its source. Where the crap has gone there will be nothing. Only oldfag will remain.
>>46845952
Death guard and soon to be BRRRT Angels
>>46854641
The books had the blood Ravens main job to be carry a booster pack for the astronomicon- so not necessarily a knight errant
>>46854732
Nope, it's just the DAs and Ultras. The Wolf-Cull happens the year before the Siege, where Horus literally rips the Wolves a new arsehole.
>>46854732
At some point Russ is going to go after Horus but get waylaid probably
>>46854747
>or at least modified to seat him, before that he was just kept in stasis.
That was the case.
>But then I remember he's one of many immortals and got his power from the dark gods, and I permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will put on my nostalgia goggles and see its source. Where the crap has gone there will be nothing. Only oldfag will remain.
One can hope.
>>46854673
M8 he was about to get battered by the alphas and the white scars just stood there doing nothing and then left him to die
>>46854592Wait, why are the Wolves still in the Sol System, I thought they were meant to be part of the force whose imminent arrival makes Horus lower the shields?
>>46854762
The what now?
So Russ, where's he now?
>>46854533
Whos the guy on the left?
Looks white, but could be black too with white light on it.
>>46854762
>>46854769
Huh. I mean I know that by the long-established "facts" of the Siege he can't have been there, but that's an odd way to do it
>>46854798
I believe he's a KE.
>>46854844
Ah, thank you.
>>46854789
The Wolf-Cull. New fluff FW Revealed at the Weekender. It's mentioned in passing here. Russ does go out to fight the Warmaster, but Horus fucks the wolves over worse then the Alphas or TSons ever did.
>>46854851
Kind of makes sense that Russ wouldn't want his legion to be split after being sequentially triple-fucked
>>46854831
The issue is there's 2 sets of primarchs
One set is on the ruin storm side and thinks emperor is dead so makes imp 2nd
Russ wouldn't have worked in that storyline but you have to explain why he want on terra
>>46854882
I'm pretty sure he'd only have a chapter's worth of wolves after the Wolf Cull.
>>46853982
No, that would be world eaters, close ranged fire fights are more of a iron hands thing.
>>46854592
>Mortarion is in it
Even one more reason for me to read that shit.
>>46854933
you didn't get the joke
>>46854933
The joke
Your Head
Ferrus' head
>>46854933
It's a joke, you know, like the World Eaters
>>46854890
3 groups, there's also the Istvaan guys.
But yeah, Russ doesn't fit with Secundus - I can see the Lion, even if you go by his "incorruptible" thing, but not Russ. Different types of loyalty there
>>46854951
No-one writes Mortarion better than Wraight, in my opinion.Mortarion knows he'd damning himself, but he's determined to keep himself and his legion pure.
What he had told Horus was true – he had kept the Legion pure. His warriors fought with their blades, bolters, fists and nothing more. There had not been a Librarius in the XIV Legion for a long time, and never would be again.
But what of Typhon? That element, at least, had eluded his control. Calas emerged ever more often in Mortarion’s fevered dreams, marching at the head of Legion detachments he barely recognised. There would have to be a reckoning with Typhon before the assault on Terra. The Legion had become too distributed, too caught up in the sprawl of the burning galaxy.
And so the order to bring the Khan to heel had been well made. It would be a work of glory, something to set aside the deeds of Fulgrim and Lorgar. Mortarion would march to Terra with the mantle of primarch-slayer, just as his Chemosian brother would.
Until then, the study continued, the immersion into the lore that both disgusted and fascinated him. If he noticed the degraded appearance of those about him, the gradual accumulation of grime and war-patina, he never spoke of it. Sickness ran through the mortal crews of the line battleships, making the echoing holds ring to the cries of the afflicted, and nothing was done.
I will comprehend, became the mantra, repeated into the deeps of the endless nights. This at least will not be denied me, not as the other things have.
>>46855002
Chris Wraight seems like a pretty class writer.
>>46852624
>>46852745
>>46852890
Please let it be a mk3 box! I can't have a MkIV Death Guard army. Morty only drinks poison with properly dressed marines!
>>46854592
>Yesugei
Noooo. he was one of my favorite guys from entire HH
>>46853194
I'd imagine not, do they look particularly different?
>>46853406
I would totally read 50 shades of Iron. They're always getting shafted anyway.
>>46854669
Please don't bully parrot-anon, anon. He doesn't know better.
Feed him crackers instead.
>>46854420
Look on 1d4chan you nonce
>>46854690
>‘Khalid Hassan
GW HAS GONE FULL PC
>>46855592
Servitor, please.
Do you want to tell me that the Tallarnians are PC too?
>Emperor Akbahr :DDD
>>46855680
Tallarns are based off British desert troops in WW2, though.
>>46855721
To a certain degree, but you should look at the names of their named characters if you want more convincing.
The proper british lads are the Praetorian Guard.
>>46855721
But they're also Arabic
>>46855476
same applies to my IW, Mk III or bust
>>46845952
Ultramarines.
>>46855721
And before, they've got a huge Laurence of Arabia thing going on
