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7/8: TUF 23 Finale - Jedrzejczyk vs Gadelha
7/9: UFC 200 - DC vs Jones 2
7/13: UFC FN 91 - Lineker vs McDonald
7/16: Bellator 158 - Daley vs Lima
7/22: Legacy FC 58 - Drysdale vs Spann
7/22: Glory 32 - Adamchuk vs Varga
7/23: UFC on Fox 20 - Holm vs Shevchenko
7/24: Pancrase 279 - Ishiwatari vs Brookins
7/29: Invicta FC 18 - Grasso vs Escabel
7/30: UFC 201 - Lawler vs Woodley
8/6: UFC FN 92 - Rodriguez vs Caceres
8/20: UFC 202 - Diaz vs McGregor 2
8/27: UFC on Fox 21 - TBA
9/10: UFC 203 - Miocic vs Overeem
Previous thread: >>69246708
News:
>Mickey Gall doesn't want to be known as the guy who fought CM Punk
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/7/4/12047352/mickey-gall-doesn-t-want-to-be-known-as-the-cm-punk-guy-any-more
>Gouti-Laprise added to UFC on Fox 21
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/07/thibault-gouti-vs-chad-laprise-joins-vancouvers-ufc-on-fox-21-lineup
>Belal Muhammad training despite adherence to Ramadan
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/7/4/12070464/belal-muhammad-training-for-ufc-debut-against-alan-jouban-during
Other links:
>UFC 200 Embedded EP 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq0PXpMmef0
>UFC 200: It's Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mehYIYq4egE
first for that canadian ronda rousey fan getting BTFO
>>69257752
"that canadian ronda rousey fan"
lmao
>>69257663
Sorry this thread was first
>>69257773
what thread
How about zero hype edition? I don't see any hype for 200 outside of the hardcore.
how badly will it bomb?
Schaub is God
>>69257816
It certainly doesn't seem to have the appeal to casuals that 100 or even 196 did
It might still sell decent, but nothing stupendous
>>69257830
Did you watch Schaub-Arlovski? Should it actually have been scored in Schaub's favor?
>>69257892
absolutely
jones and brock are getting heemed
screencap this post
>>69257816
The 202 press conference will get more views than the 200 main card
>>69257926
mctappy is going to turn into the next chael sonnen
not a draw because he's an amazing fighter, but just because he talks a lot
Did OP get offended that I used a picture of him for my thread so he spammed this shit thread everywhere?
>but muh op
REAL >>69257663
REAL >>69257663
REAL >>69257663
REAL >>69257663
>>69258051
you have quickly become one of the worst posters in the history of heem
>>69257961
>Conor McGregor isn't an amazing fighter
>>69257654
>They also wanted to make Ronda vs Holly 2 immediately too.
Actually, Dana, who is becoming increasingly demented, wanted Holly to wait until December, possibly January ('17) before fighting again, in order to rematch Ronda.
I wonder if it's the salty mandrama children trying to sabotage our general for getting them banished to /asp/
lesnar vs mir
gsp vs alves
hendo vs bisping
fitch vs thiago
akiyama vs belcher
dc vs jon
bork vs hunto
tate vs who
frankie vs aldo
cain vs mr rousey
>>69258069
no need to be triggered
>>69258088
Maybe Ronda plans to return when Holly is 40 years old or so, that's her strategy
>>69258069
>he hasn't already filtered Bulgaria
webm spammers can we get some Randy Couture webm's please
>>69258127
I really expect her to come back in December. She'll face whoever wins on Saturday. Miesha has already stated that she won't take another fight earlier than December.
On a similar note - how would you guys feel if they made Rockhold/Bisping 2 in the next 2-3 months?
Free Fights part 5
Other lists: http://pastebin.com/0DuVP5j4
Jorge Masvidal vs Joe Lauzon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t0CVzSdg2k
Takanori Gomi vs Satoru Kitaoka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugC5IjV3oRM
Nick Diaz vs Jeremy Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_3ias5Xf5c
Gunnar Nelson vs Alexander Butenko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cqMoREkzAQ
Ben Rothwell vs Jonathan Ivey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjGBbk4gFJw
Gilbert Yvel vs Alexander Houston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EdjjYPcNmM
Chael Sonnen vs Amar Suloev
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ar0FWIXA2E
Andrei Arlovski vs Viacheslav Datsik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYThRk3nd6I
Wonderboy vs Jeremy Joles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw2ZGvrXEc8
Yair Rodriguez vs Leon Herrera (Yair is in the blue corner/gloves)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpB8nTu-jMU
Ken Shamrock vs Ross Clifton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKdfsLL2MA
Vitor Belfort vs Antony Rea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUsDpBaTQPM
Cat Zingano vs Carina Damm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C823qI3wR2I
Dustin Poirier vs Aaron Suarez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqrb7EJO77s
Tim Kennedy vs Dante Rivera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqsCSAmeisA
Ikuhisa Minowa vs Alexander Shlemenko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c1woIkeSMo
Ben Nguyen vs Chavalit Sityodtong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bWbad4hBo4
>>69258225
>I don't rate Bellator
>>69257816
>I don't see any hype
Sometimes I wonder if you people even have friends
>>69257868
>>69257816
they fucked up not doing it july 4th weekend
gives people a great excuse to watch the fights since so many parties and stuff are going on already
>>69258268
Datsik was a legend
Imagine seeing him in the UFC fighting Travis Browne or something
>>69258260
Any immediate rematch with no controversy and where the first fight was a finish and/or a domination is shit.
Someone on the UG pulled some data that the vast majority of the immediate rematches end with the same winner.
Will this babby grow up to be the best p4p fighter in the history of MMA?
>>69258358
I've heard about that, but I was never able to find the data for myself. Did anyone screencap it and post the data here?
>>69257717
thank you OP
>>69258268
>Cat Zingano vs Carina Damm
>tune in
>see this
>wat do
>>69258345
>kickboxing
Can we stop pretending this shit is anywhere near as entertaining as MMA? It's fucking awful.
>>69258418
>tune into Zigano-Pena
>explosive bunda malfunction in round 2
what do
>>69258436
I wonder what the UFC would even do if like the ass of their shorts just exploded open
they'd have to stop the fight and fix the gear, but... would they do that?
>>69258427
Why do you think it's bad? It's a decent display of standup skills at a higher level than you would find in the UFC.
>>69258358
I think it's kind of naive to lump all finishes together.
Plus, if your lumping all the data together, I might imagine that a lot of those immediate rematches would be in low level promotions, where there's a dearth of fighters (therefore they're more likely to make immediate rematches, just because their fighters have fewer available opponents).
>>69258427
heems are heems my friend
>>69258436
>explosive bunda malfunction
>the fight is stopped and declared a no contest
>the next fight is delayed while they clean the shit out of the ring
>yfw
>>69258436
>>69258452
in that Damm fight linked above Cat axe kicks her directly below the belt (where a nutshot would be)
what's the rule on that with females
>>69258458
>fighters clinching just means the action pauses
>a fighter gets knocked down and lol you got til ten to get back up buddy, hope you can walk! (more action pausing)
>the average kickboxer would instantly get taken down and subbed in a MMA fight
The shit sucks
>>69258493
I think it's still illegal
Cunt punts can still do damage to a woman, they have weaker pelvic bones than men iirc
Let's post fighters who are just not quite good enough to ever be considered elite.
I'll start: Ryan Bader
>>69258345
DELET TIHS
>>69258536
Donald Cerrone
>>69258536
Michael Johnson
>>69258536
The Diaz Brothers
>>69258544
STAHP
>>69257717
>Belal Muhammad training despite adherence to Ramadan
why can't habeeb do this too
>>69258536
>when /heem/ thought """""K-1"""""" Bader would actually drag Rumble into deep waters and submit him
>>69258536
diego sanchez
>>69258581
Well nobody expected him to dive for a leg from halfway across the octagon.
>>69258536
pre-june edition: michael bisping
>>69258616
lel
>>69258616
Immediately after the match began
>>69258536
Mark Hunt
+2 Internets to you if you can successfully guess who this is (hint: you will never get it).
>>69258687
Cat Zingano
>>69258399
Can't find it now, shouldve saved.
>>69258471
I guess I'm just jaded with the rematch heavy matchmaking, even if many of those didn't happen because of injuries, shit has gotten ridiculous, someone take Joe Silva's crack pipe away from him.
>>69258581
He would have if he wasn't scared. I didn't know he was such a wimp. He should have been cut for that.
>>69258687
Alexa Davis
>>69258687
a pre-kid pre-rousey depression Cat Zigano
>>69258697
>>69258471 (You)
>I guess I'm just jaded with the rematch heavy matchmaking
Yeah, I'm with you. Rematches really can, and do, waste a lot of time. I didn't mean to poke holes in your data (which has not actually been posted).
>>69258696
>>69258724
+4 Interweb
>>69258687
An extra in an early 2000s rap video
is /heem/ the premier mma meme making community?
>>69258536
The entire LW roster pre 2012 (with the exception of Frankie)
>>69258753
Who is that man?
>>69258753
heem is the cream of the meme making scene
Rafael Dos Anjos 2.0
Khabib Nurmagomedov
Tony Ferguson
Who comes out on top, familia?
>>69258687
qt zingano still qt to me
>>69258753
Hell no. Pic related. The type of meme mining "gold" /meem/ produces.
>>69258817
T bh i think Ferguson beats Glassynomedov.
I don't know who wins between Ferguson and Dos Anjos
>>69258820
I thought PC was normally meant to be the best one in these pictures but Goldberg is the worst commentator on that list
I feel like I could doost everyone here in under a minute. I could go through the entire /heem/ roster in under 3 weeks flat, what? 25 of you here now in this thread? Let's cut all the shenanigans, weigh me in tonight and I cut through all of you in under a month.
>>69258820
Brian Stann reporting in
>>69258845
dude, go fuck yourself
![UFC-Dgital-Media-Partner-Exclusive-On-Demand-Audio-Series_592571_OpenGraphImage[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4XwS9SN.jpg "UFC-Dgital-Media-Partner-Exclusive-On-Demand-Audio-Series 592571 OpenGraphImage[1]")
is heem listening to the ufc unfiltered podcast?
the chemistry between norton and serra is better than i expected from two random guys just thrown together
i'll keep listening
>Cat Zingano is still wearing Affliction gear on her UFC profile pic
come on lol
>>69258820
Rogan is a PC guy really.
>>69258845
>Goldberg
>worst
>not best
>>69258918
I asked Goldberg fans why he's a good commentator once and all they had to say was "the memes".
>>69258817
cowboy somehow. rda will lose, cowboy will become champ
>>69258908
no I'm not because Jim Norton sucks lol
>>69258961
>cowboy somehow.
>>69258958
to be honest as cheesy as he is, he's very good at that corny radio personality type shit
Whatever happened to that big hullaballoo around a potential UFC sale? That story really fizzled out didn't it
>>69258981
>>69258991
eddie wins, cowboy rematch, khabi or tony win, injuries abound, cowboy replacement etc.
RDA beats cowboy, but that doesn't mean he beats all or that anyone who beats rda can beat cowboy
>>69259037
Cowboy isn't even in the weight class anymore you nutter.
>>69259015
They're finalizing the deal and have absolutely round up and executed all the talking birds in the desert
You won't hear a word about this again until a month after it's official
Is Johny allowed to have one brand logo on his trunks because he signed an individual Reebok deal?
>>69259037
>eddie wins
lol didnt read the rest
>>69258972
he's one of us though
enjoys mma, can't fight. hires prostitues
>>69259054
http://www.mmamania.com/2016/6/19/11972532/ufc-cowboy-cerrone-wants-quick-turnaround-lightweight-welterweight-mma
>>69259065
You're allowed Reebok approved sponsors on your shorts or something like that
A handful of fighters actually wear Monster
I can't wait for this Reebok shit to be over. How long's left? About three years?
>>69259113
Hopefully if the UFC is sold then the Reebok contract is somehow nullified
>>69259064
It's not happening.
Botter's finished after this.
>>69259113
Five more. 70 million man. Don't worry. In 2015 only about 7 million was used. Meaning there's going to be a lot for fighters in the future. Dana and Lorenzo don't make any money off of it btw. All for the fighters.
any of you lads have that BROKEN cormier image I do not have that one saved for some reason appreciate it
>Bisping is calling out the no. 13th ranked guy
What a champ.
>>69259154
>Five more
Jesus christ.
I know it's old news but the Reebok deal is seriously the worst shit. Came out of nowhere and fucked the majority of fighters over.
>>69259177
After Hendo he will fight Nick Diaz, then GSP.
How mad will the middleweights be?
>>69259195
Did not come out of nowhere. Came out of fans constantly reacting with a positive curiosity whenever Dana floated the idea of "uniforms".
>>69259229
Doubt it.
>>69259207
they will have to place rockhold underground with all the old movies in hollywood, too much salt
>>69257868
Is that guy who got KTFO autistic?
>>69258750
I thought it was a star of yet another 2 RATCHET 4 U dance fight movie
she's one of the wiggers with more sass than aunt jemima
>>69257926
You're right Conor, I believe you, I hope you're training hard, good luck
I have decided to retire young. Thanks for the cheese. Catch ya's later.
>>69257961
>1 UFC loss outside his weight division
>already unseated the 145 "goat"
>zero losses at 145
he's already accomplished more than chael ever did to be honest with you family.
>>69257777
USA USA USA
>>69259296
Formerly
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/6/16/11941778/at-age-33-john-howard-finally-freed-by-diagnosis-of-autism
Tfw I could simulate anyones death on heem
>>69258069
Seconding this, every Bulgaria post I see is trash
>>69259403
Step forward and try
>>69259403
All you gotta do is come to my gym and ask for me by name.
>>69257777
GOD QUADS FOR AMERICA
>>69258845
>Cuck-esque in his shitty opinion is the kangaroo fucking excuse of a 'man', Joe
>>69259574
>quality commentary? fuck that, as long as i hear random quips straight from a shill's mouth i'm happy
>CASUAL 'N' PROUD
Thanks for the input
>You're just an average bloke. I'm a fuckin samurai
Guys Meltzer is reporting Brock opponent for Summerslam is going to be announced on Smackdown this Thursday. If he gets heemed at 200 he won't be able to wrestle as WWE follows concussion protocol similar to the NFL and NBA. But names being floated as his opponent are Bas Rutten, Seth Petruzelli, Frank Mir and Rashad Evans. Bas dabbled in pro wrestling the early two thousands in New Japan. Seth works for the WWE right now. Both Mir and Evans have inquired about pro wrestling in the past. Stay tuned.
>>69259472
she looks sad
Well done, well done floyd...
HOWEVER
>>69259605
You can thank our National team and Missi for that
>>69259593
>not enjoying the irony of Goldberg's commentary
I bet you unironically enjoy Anik
Threadly reminder that if you dislike/hate this stud there's a high chance you were a virgin beta that was bullied constantly throughout highschool. What you see in Sage are all the things you will never be and it makes you steaming mad, he's your modern day Chad and you're that odd kid from the bottom desk.
>>69259593
If you don't like Rogan and Goldie you can fuck off, they make every fight more fun and I'm sad that Rogan is likely leaving this year.
>>69259629
Anik is GOAT
>>69259593
>barely a minute after >>69259574
you were so butthurt about a joke that you typed that up immediately kek
>>69259601
>Seth Petruzelli was hired by the WWE as a striking coach
what
My take on the odds for fights that interest me:
>Alvarez +270, RDA -330
def not worth betting RDA at those odds coming off long layoff with injury. alvarez is a little better than +270 imo
>gadelha +110, joanna -130
slight lean to joanna sounds right, i might favor her even more though i want claudia to win
>dc +250, jones -300
dont think there's value on DC there, not sure what he does different. -300 is actually one of the lower JJ lines you'll probably see
>lesnar +150, hunt -170
think you gotta favor the guy who's actually been fighting mma competitively the last few years. if brock cant get it to where he wants right away he's going to get hit a lot
>nunes +210, tate -250
consider me a 'doubter', i dont think meisha should be favored this much. cheeky play on nunes but i dont know that much about her desu
>edgar -115, aldo -105
edgar could take advantage of another conor KO victim returning for a tough fight. dont know what that will do to jose after a decade of dominance
>browne +235, cain -275
i think browne will fuck it up but not gonna back cain for those odds considering he hasnt fought in forever either
>pena +160, cat -185
sounds about right
>gastelum +100, hendricks -120
im not a big hendricks fan but i would make him a lot bigger favorite here. better wrestler and he's not gonna look as bad as he did against wonderboy
>>69259656
>>69259629
>>69259675
>it's fun
>u mad
>i only like him ironically
Fuck man I didn't expect you guys to be this retarded
>mfw someone hates on goldie
>tfw when you could split decision every here
>>69259729
I'm actually putting down 200 on Nunes tomorrow
She can absolutely fuck up Miesha standing up, and not just in the way that Holly could, but Amanda can and will push the action and actually dominate her standing up, her grappling is very good as well and she can defend the takedown, even if she can't, she's good on the ground
Only question is her gas tank, but I think she finishes Miesha around the third round
post YFW brock heems hunto in round 1
Mandramatics crawling out of the woodwork.
>>69259842
>>69259847
>people who like brock automatically are mandramatists
I like seeing albino gorillas pound people into bolivion you fucks
>>69259847
Does Brock have an iron chin?
>there are cucks that actually care and listen to the commentary
Seriously. It's fine if you just got into the sport. But if you've been watching for a few years and don't know what's going on you need to heem yourself.
>>69259789
Vegas Dave bet $1 million on Miesha Tate. I wouldn't fade Vegas Dave if I were you.
>>69259908
Vegas Dave is a lying cuck
>>69259847
You know, that first punch that Lesnar throws in this webm, it grazed Overeem's chin, and Overeem didn't block it at all. If it was a little bit more accurate who knows what would have happened, especially with Overeem's glass jaw.
>>69259908
>betting a million dollars on a sport with as many variables as MMA
Legit can't even imagine.
>>69259902
>He listens to commentary as a way to learn MMA
>"John Howard-esque is this fucking faggot frogposter in his autistic behavior, Joe"
>>69259875
What's wrong with liking mandrama? The UFC are desperately following their footsteps, they're dying to promote overhyped superstars. If it were up to Dana and Lorenzo, they're kick out all the talented people and sign CM Punk like performers.
>>69259959
Another fantastic post from the beautiful country of Bulgaria.
>>69259997
>rare flag only shows up to post awful shit and never actually sits down and discusses MMA
Doubt that's actually a Bulgarian
>>69260012
Is Bulgaria a rare flag?
Bisping's daughter
Did anyone catch Dos Anjo's Facebook livechat? There's a replay of it anyways
His accent sounds unusually thick, he normally has an accent but he sounded like a full on hue when speaking English in that livechat
actually there is a badass bulgarian tv series called pod prikritie (translated to undercover).
i tried to watch it but no subtitles after season 1 so i had to drop it.
>>69260028
>>69259959
>What's wrong with liking mandrama?
Nothing, but i don't, just telling these cucks you don't have to like it to like Bork
>>69260054
HEY MEESA MAGREGA
DIS MY DIVEESION MANG
There is absolutely no reason for Krazy Horse to not be working commentary for the UFC.
>guy gets heemed
>GOT EEEEEEEEEEEEM!
>Ngannou walks out
>this nigga look like Congo (Chieck?)
>nah like the monkey movie
>guys get tapped
>DC not my nigga, now Jon a real nigga, fuckin' white wimmin,crashing cars,got guns,cocaine, he like me
>>69260054
When RDA speaks English he constantly says "but uuhhhhhh"
I swear listen out for it next time
>>69260076
Well, he did get signed by Rizin.
I don't know how they're getting him into Japan though.
>>69260076
Does he remind you of your wife's son's father Devon?
>>69260076
Bennett just got signed by Rizin and now goes by Charles "Felony" Bennett
>>69260108
A little bit. He's a fight fan actually. He's told some of his favorite are gangster type fighters. Bobby Green,Krazy Horse,Jones,Rumble,Melvin Manohef, Derrick Lewis, and Chael Sonnen. I'd rather him have like guys like the one in your gif,Randy,Chuch,Luke,Weidman, DC but he says they're pussies.
>>69260076
>On January 16, 2011 Bennett was training at a gym in Bernalillo County, New Mexico and got into a physical altercation with a teammate. According to a police report, tempers flared between the two and the other fighter knocked down Bennett, who then got dressed and left the building but came back 15 minutes later with a heavy piece of steel and attacked the fighter from behind. He was charged with aggravated battery.
>>69260098
>Mike Tyson never fought Bob Sapp because chinklets are finnicky on who enters their land
>>69260132
He will never not be Krazy Hose
>>69260160
Can you post the webm of him hemming kj nooons
>>69260147
>Bennett was first arrested when he was 17 years old for aggravated battery but the case was dropped. In 1998, he was arrested twice for possession of cocaine. His first arrest was dismissed and his second arrest included distribution, grand theft, and holding under 20 grams of marijuana. He received adjudication withheld on the four felony and one misdemeanor charge
>Between 1999 and 2009, he was arrested 14 times on charges that included selling cocaine, burglary, aggravated battery on a pregnant woman, and possession of MDMA. The charge on the pregnant woman in 2002 was dropped and he was found guilty on two drug charges in 2000 and 2001 and was also found guilty for another aggravated battery in 2008, which stemmed from a domestic dispute
>>69260170
I haven't got a webm but I've got the fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGDDGZBwIyg
>>69260184
What's the deal with blacks and authority?
Claudia
gawdahleea
>>69260200
testosterone is correlated with crime and blacks have higher testosterone levels than everyone else
>>69259601
>Smackdown this Thursday
sd tapes tuesday so we'll find out tomorrow, I doubt it will be someone from mma though
>Krazy Horse
>vicious criminal with numerous drug and assault crimes
>wow so based
>very cool and dangerous
>very entertaining fighters to watch and listen
>Nick Diaz
>DUI's
>fighting outside the cage
>so based
>very entertaining
>that's just him
>Jon Jones bangs up some pregnant lady's car
>FUCKING NIGGER HANG HIM! STRIP HIM OF HIS BELT
>I HOPE HE GETS A INJURY THAT ENDS HIS CAREER!
>>69260465
Don't forget the eye pokes, kicking knees, keeping his hand on the mat, being an overall douche general part.
>>69260465
I don't like Diaz.
Bennett isn't a fucking douche, he did his time and he is trying to turn his life around he said it himself.
Jones is a pompous cocksucker who's not humble about anything he went to rehab for 1 day after the coke incident and he crashed into a pregnant lady then fled the scene, came back to the car to get some weed he left in the car, and then fled the scene once more. He has made no attempt to turn his life around and the fact that he was arrested later for drag racing is evidence that he hasn't learned anything and he's still a piece of shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW6Z9iQBHvo
>>69260514
this man is not a pompous cocksucker, this man is a badass
and by the way, what was the stage of pregnancy of that lady? did he banged her afterall?
>>69260476
I love UFC girls , they are so hard core and not girly like gymnastics girls
>>69259574
god damn this made me laugh. bantz mex is my favorite heem poster
>>69260525
Juiced to the GILLSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>69259195
>Came out of nowhere
It has always said in contracts they had the right to the ad-space. Any fighter who didn't think they would eventually enforce that are dumb as shit. Leave it to people who get hit in the head for a living to not read the fine print.
Reebok deal is fine. Actually looks like a sport now. UFC fighters are getting paid more now than ever before. Stop whining and go back to Rebbit.
>>69260483
>eye pokes
A problem the UFC has failed to address
>kicking knees
Completely legal
>Keeping his hands on the mat
Completely legal
>Being an overall douche
Shut up, pussy
Fighters union when?
These guys are really getting stiffed by Dana and the Mafia
eddie vs two banjos literally starts in less than 72 hours
>>69260558
>le fighter pay is just fine go back to ribbit man
Not you again
>>69260591
>>69260603
>I don't want stacked cards
>I want the politics, shit matchmaking, and diva status of boxing
>>69259634
I don't want to see him lose again
>>69260610
Who are you quoting?
>>69260638
I'm explaining to you what your opinion means. Any more questions, Auspie poster?
>>69260558
>UFC fighters are getting paid more now than ever before
fuck you dana
p.s. that podcast is shit
Threadly heeminder
Let's tunnelvision and pretend that DC beats Jones fair and square via exhausting one sided unanimous decision. Does Jones break mentally like Conor, Ronda and Rockhold or does he suck it up like Weidman and get even more pumped to make a spectacular comeback?
>>69260646
Right, you know what I'm thinking and what I mean and want at all times.
Here's a question for you, why do you defend any of the business practices the UFC does without question? I'd actually like to know.
>>69260658
fuck flyweights and fuck you goof
real fight fans want spicy bangers and corn nuts
>>69260659
Conor and Rockhold handled the loss alright enough I think, Ronda is literally on suicide watch though
>>69260671
>fuck flyweight
>>69260659
>Suck it up like Weidman
He gets injured before a rematch and pulls out? lol
Jones is an actual alpha. A loss would only reinvigorate him. He'd probably only come back scarier
>>69260666
>Without question
I don't? I'm just fully aware of the UFC's revenue and think their payouts are pretty reasonable. They could be higher, sure, but we're talking about base pay not bringing back shitty local sponsors that only bigger guys benefited from in the first place.
>>69259015
You have no idea how business works do you eh crocodile hunter?
They have to do their due diligence, work out massive contracts, and do everything through teams of lawyers making millions.
Big sales like these take time.
>>69260659
Jones would take a sabbatical to party all over the world and stuff
DC would sit on his gold throne at last, but he's tired. Tired of the words, the training, seeing his friends suffer. He'll fight a couple more times, then retire.
Then Jones would come back, say how blessed by God he feels, and decision Krylov for the LHW title
>>69260671
>he doesn't appreciate the fluidity and precision of Mighty Mouse's technique
>>69260696
I might not have business smarts, I'll concede that; but I've got many other good qualities that your hot mum can attest to
>>69260690
>I'm just fully aware of the UFC's revenue
As far as I know that shit isn't public.
They could be higher is all I really want, it's weird hearing about top ten fighters like Jojo who can't afford to make fighting a full-time job. UFC is supposed to be the big league, but it doesn't feel like it sometimes.
>>69260716
Thats because it isnt the big leagues.
>>69260716
She's in a division that isn't profitable at all during the formative years of WMMA and just had her career defining fight. She would've been compensated whenever it came time to renegotiate. What's the other option? Give entire droves of people who couldn't headline a prelim a liveable wage? The entire UFC is worth about as much as a big NBA team and employs exponentially more people. Their revenue for 2015 is public because I've seen articles about Mayweather making more in his fight with Pacquaio.
She also trains at a top gym on the other side of the Earth. That's definitely a factor in why she couldn't afford another camp.
>>69260658
I... I miss ugly swim trunks. That Orwellian-esque reference isn't something a goof would say, Joe.
I can't take this image seriously, last statement on the left side mentions flyweights, second one mentions a heavyweight. It's literally like saying "hey, today is raining!" and some autismo child answers back "orly I play piano"
>>69260756
what is MMA's big league?
or what do UFC fighters wish they get promoted to?
>>69260766
Uhmmm... one of us definitely has autism?
You don't need to add an "esque" to "Orwellian" btw. It's already an adjective.
>>69260762
>pay your empl- i mean independent contractors a livable wage
Sounds good to me.
>>69260795
That's your response to my earnest and well thought out paragraph? Lmao bud. See you in the funny papers.
>>69260792
goof is also an adjective, and from now on you're a goof-esque poster
>>69260792
him and the argentinian poster are the biggest autists on heem
>>69260827
>Foreign Donald poster
Wew lad, that's all I needed to know
>>69260816
I think you just didn't have anything to say to that one.
>>69260798
Mark Hunt will end Bork in the first, mark my words
>>69260777
They all really wish they were Prize Fighters in the world of Boxing. Or to atleast be paid accordingly.
I dont see why PBC jokers like Adrien "about billionz" Broner are still pulling down bigger checks than UFC fighters on a regular basis.
But i guess im just a hater. I want to see UFC fighters well off, its too popular for these guys to be living in a hut in the ghetto
Jon.....
>>69260840
I literally already addressed it.
>>69260844
well the day of Zuffa owning UFC is coming to an end, hopefully if China runs it, these fighters will be paid even more
Jon Jones is the Ben Cousins of mma. Cunt will end up exactly like cuzzy, mark my words.
This one's unwrapped Jon
>>69260844
>>I dont see why PBC jokers like Adrien "about billionz" Broner are still pulling down bigger checks than UFC fighters on a regular basis.
Because boxing is a broken sport with shit matchmaking, shit cards, and a huge bureaucracy consisting of multiple organizations and dozens on dozens of meaningless titles.
>>69260854
Where? The part where UFC shouldn't pay prelim guys enough money to live on because they're prelim guys? They're still people man, come on.
>I'm not joking, if you put the these cans on top of each other that's how big Jon is
Let tell you what, if you don't like Flyweight fights
Please, I'm begging you, don't ever buy another UFC pay per view again, don't ever buy another one, the UFC doesn't want your money. You're a moron, you don't like fighting, and you don't appreciate great talent, or heart
AND YA AIN'T A REAL FIGHT FAN
>>69260880
Is this the standard American breakfast. Bacon and Coffee?
>I can only fit this much of Jon's dick in my mouth
>>69260889
Is Dana White, dare I say it, a goof?
>Look me in the eyes Jon...
>>69260895
Most Americans don't eat breakfast honestly
Why do UFC fighters only get 9% of the UFC's revenue?
That doesn't seem fair right?
>>69260878
The part where (1) the UFC is not in a position to allot pay comparable to major sports (2) they already pay more than their competition (3) you contract is renegotiated based on performance (4) people in dire need of money shouldn't be pursuing a niche sport as a career etc etc etc
You motherfuckers think nakmuays are millionaires? There are NBA players who make more in a year than the entire WNBA.
>>69260895
I wasn't even sure if that was coffee
Kiddies drowning it fucking cream and sugar, theyre drinking a melted coffee ice cream
>>69260911
If you don't understand economics I suppose
But hey Feel the Bern right
Hey Jon...
>>69260911
Sauce? The typical business should be using a little more than a third of revenue for salary.
>>69260913
All pretty shit points except the first one, which only works if you assume that people want every fighter to make six figures per fight.
>>69260935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i0ZQhVF4j4
Based Dana
Can't wait to hear him speak at the RNC
>>69260873
So thats why the boxers make a TON more money for similar work. Makes so much sense.
Instead of bashing boxing , you should try and take its positive aspects and try and add it to the UFC. So the next kid in the next generation that wants to become a fighter actually chooses MMA instead of boxing as a trade.
This will secure the sports future. Its too bad most of you dumbasses cant understand this. The IQ of UFC fans are low.
If my kid wants to become a fighter , im telling him boxing every time. Until this system Dana White has changes , youll have a more secure future with boxing. Doesnt matter how broken it is.
Try and care a little about your leagues athletes if you are a true fan
I sentence you to get that dick succed Jon.
>>69260862
This t b h.
>>69260961
>If my kid wants to become a fighter , im telling him boxing every time.
LOLOLOLOLOL, can't wait to see your kid with dementia at 35 mumbling through interviews and doing reality TV with Holyfield to pay down his debts.
Let me show you how I got Jon
When is Zuffa selling the UFC?
I cant wait for them to finally fuck off
>>69260961
Boxing pay is top heavy, your 'kid' will fighting for $500 on undercards too.
Let me show how I made Jon nut up
>>69260952
>Multiple points answering your question
>Shitty reply to one of them
Yeah, sorry Auspie. I tried having a conversation with you. Go take a business class at your community uni or something.
>>69260895
What is the standard Bulgarian breakfast?
>>69260973
Whos telling him to fight like that , im sending him straight to Roger Mayweather
Who would win. Rich Piana vs this guy
>>69260880
>a UFC champion drinks soda
Pathetic
Nice """"sport""" you guys have here
>>69260991
>wow kid i am so DONE
Damn, he's at it again.
>>69261006
Excellent choice. The Mayweather camp has produced more than 1 talented boxer ever.
>mfw Schaub posters
>>69261006
They will use him as a punching bag to train-up one of their own niglets.
>>69260961
The only strong thing about boxing today is its legacy as a sport, somewhat similar to how baseball is still popular, it's tradition, in this case it's worse in boxing than baseball
And like someone else pointed out its very top heavy in boxing
Then again you're just a fucking dipshit aspie who's trolling and I'd take your fucking head off in 3 seconds
>>69261028
Lmao, I literally predicted this shit meme would utterly fall off very dramatically and quickly just 3 days ago and here we are, basically done and forgotten until you showed up to try and save it lol
>>69261009
Soda is just empty calories, quit being a retarded soccer mom, nut up or shut up
>>69261047
O shit whaddup
>>69261031
Oh boy , im shaking in my reebo/k/s
So scary
>>69261047
May Rich bless your soul
>>69261074
You want to see something scary go buy a mirror, kid
>>69260946
>>69260946
Somebody did a story on it a few years back.
Italy recently reposted it. Because he thought the UFC was paying out at least 30% to the fighters, but was sorely mistaken.
http://www.mmasentinel.com/2013/05/ufc-revenue-fighter-expenses-study/
>>69261005
Burger and fries but we just throw away the fries
>>69261101
It's 30% to employees. The UFC employs more than just fighters you goof.
>i care so much about fighter pay!!!
>so much that I deprive them of actual hard earned cash by pirating, torrenting, and illegally copyrighting all their fights and content!!!! I do this to protest the awful pay, that makes sense!
>>69261102
my man
Put money on Cormier winning in devastating fashion. All the unbeatables have been KTFO in UFC no reason Jones isn't next, especially because Cormier seems to admit he's out of his league so fights appropriately, ie: fighting smart.
The prophets see Jones pulling a Werdum, chasing after him and getting caught
MMA Podcast Power Rankings
Top Tier
>Submission Radio
Ok but pretentious Tier
>Heavy Hands
>Co-main event,
Ok sometimes but long winded and pretentious Tier
>Cuck Thomas
Filler Tier
>Rutten and Runello
>Anik and Florian
Last resort for something to listen too Tier
>The MMA Hour
Absolute garbage for brain dead retards Tier
>rogan or schuab shit
Anything else worth listening too?
>>69261061
Did I trigger you fatass?
Get off the soda and you'll feel much better.
>>69261146
Whenever Joe gets a fighter or fight figure on that isn't Schaub, it really is interesting
>>69261108
Yeah the employees get way over 30% you retard.
The fighters aren't enployees, they're independent contractors remember?
>>69261172
That's the only time I can stomach Joe's podcast honestly.
>>69261172
It probably is but rogan just grates on me too much to listen to him.
>>69261130
Lmao the fighters don't see a cent of that money
This guy smacks your gf's ass, what do you do?
>>69260839
Alt right is a misnomer, those people are stormniggers and left wing (national socialism, germany's workers party).
Don't want to bring poltics into it, but then you just did.
Trump is alright though.
>>69261009
There's a shitload of NHL players who smoke, pic related Montreal habs party. Lot's of soccer players for Man United, Arsenal ect also smoke and drink heavily.
Cormier drinking sugar water when he's primarily a wrestler is nothing compared to Seguin in Boston going out every night during the playoffs and getting blasted (and still won the cup).
>>69261201
>the fighters don't see a cent of the money I steal from them
Stunning observation
So the UFC selling to the chinks was wolftickets right?
>>69261243
The Diaz brothers smoke weed everyday but have the best cardio in the world. What's your point?
Even they won't touch soda.
>>69261251
No, read the thread you goof.
>>69261249
That is exactly Dana and co's mindset.
>>69261266
I don't see any sauce related to the UFC selling themselves to the chinks
>>69260935
le economics man strikes again!
>>69261254
What's your point? Chara drinks coke on the bench during the game.
Admit you have no idea what you're talking about
Is the Fertitta family a mafia?
>>69260973
>dementia won't be cured in the future
lad, in the future i'll be able to get KO'd at 8pm and fight the rematch at 9pm
>>69261028
This is sad now.
>>69261276
I think it will be great. Chinks invented Kung Fu and Martial Arts movies. They appreciate the craft and have boatloads of money
>>69261172
JREs are only as interesting as the guest
I listened to a bit of last night's one with the former criminal defence attorney and it was pretty interesting.
The fact Joe actually brought on someone who seemed to be knowledgeable is probably just a coincidence since he only invited him because he's a fellow stand up comic.
Whenever Joe invites "experts" on they are hacks 99% of the time.
>>69261293
define "future"
Maybe in 100 years, maybe 200.
JR, Mike Tyson, and Rampage Jackson as new commentary team
>>69261146
nice reddit list there friend, upvoted
>>69261312
It depends how stoned Rogan gets. If he's not stoned then the conversation is interesting but if he gets blasted he ends up rambling about stupid shit and delving into total hackery/quackery/flimflam bullshit.
embedded FUCKING WHEN
>>69261249
he's mostly right though
>>69261292
literally yes
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzNo8kqkzq8
>>69261312
r u seriously telling me dr rhonda patrick isnt a fucking genius
>>69261276
Yeah, because it doesn't happen overnight.
Both companies lawyers have to do their due diligence, big contracts, etc.
It will take months, if not a year to be finalized.
does anybody know the name of the thing wonderboy did against rory where he did the little push feint thing that you may have seen in point fighting tournies? i thought it was just some bullshit technique just to get a point in karate tournaments but it looks like wonderboy used it for octagon control.
>>69261290
Why the fuck are you comparing hockey to real athletes anyway?
Anyone with half a brain knows soda is terrible for anyone attempting to be in great physical shape.
>>69261361
he's not really that knowledgeable in anything except MMA, and there's a lot of people who can talk about it better than him
I honestly don't really care about what he has to say most of the time
>>69261369
Not really. i think you'd be surprised how much ad revenue you generate by watching on television.
Combine that with the amount of people that stream the fights and a decent amount of money is lost in the long term
>>69261390
So is meat, why aren't you bitching about that?
"muh protein"
Fucking moron
>>69261395
ads on tv don't work on a per view basis
the tv doesn't know you're watching
tv ratings are estimates (I think at least)
>>69261393
Rogan is 10x more credible and knowledgeable than literally any hack in MMA media
>>69261395
and the point is that, even if the UFC does make more money it doesn't necessarily mean they'll pay the fighters more, since they don't have any reason to do so.
>>69261406
When it comes to MMA that's mostly true, but he hardly ever talks about MMA
Name one other thing Rogan is knowledgeable in
>>69261414
This.
Get btfo goofy goober
>>69261390
It really isn't, it's not ideal but there are much worse things, if you're eating well and exercising as you should it won't matter that much.
>>69261424
Not that guy but Rogan is knowledgeable in
>fitness
>supplementation
>diet
>boxing
>Quake
>Doom
>theories
>science
>religion
>acting
>comedy
Its why he has so many different types of guests. He can relate to anyone.
>>69261424
nothing but we're specifically talking about MMA here, also he occasionally brings up interesting things even if he's not an expert on it
>>69261404
Hence why I said long term, you're not gonna get as much ad revenue, support from advertisers, etc.
And it's not just TV, it's also PPV's which a lot of people do not pay for in any way
>since they don't have any reason to do so
Other than pay their fighters more, they don't have any reason to not to if they actually can get more money
It's stupid circular logic, you are benefiting absolutely no one and literally stealing content, I can't possibly imagine how you think that doesn't trickle down to fighters especially when thousands of people are doing it
>>69261424
1. Kettlebells
2. Weed
3. Hair transplants
4. Men's physiques
>>69261424
Weed, psychedelics, kettle bells
"im going to consistently steal from Zuffa in large amounts because I assume they're not going to pay fighters, yet I question why they don't pay fighters billions of dollars when their revenue is that of a single major sports team"- fucking retards
>>69261451
Oh yeah, let's see how good of shake you're in with your pathetic soda drinking existence.
>I steal from this already struggling convenience store because they dont pay their employees that much, that oughta show em!!!
>Im going to assume even if I did give them money, they'd just be greedy fucks and use it on themselves, #FEELTHEBERN
>>69260843
This. It's going to look like a Bob Sapp fight.
The American sperg ladies and gentlemen.
If you're feeling sad, think that at least you're not named Sergei in Brazil or any portuguese speaking country. Because it means in a literal translation "to be gay".
>>69261505
Is that what your mom's boyfriend called you growing up, sonny?
>>69261488
Post your body with your amazing diet
>caring about other peoples paycheck
>>69261463
>you
I have fightpass and I get all PPVs as part of my satellite deal
Anyway, it might trickle down eventually, but very slowly
If everyone on /heem/ (a few hundred people) started dishing out money for every single PPV it wouldn't increase fighter pay by a cent (except for those who have PPV points, ofc)
The UFC will continue to pay out a disproportionately lower percentage of its revenue to its athletes compared to other sport franchises, until some change in the law forces/pressures them to do otherwise
>>69261390
You still have no idea what you're talking about
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-athletes-who-train-with-soda-1418152993
There's a difference between high level athelete and fags on JRE podcast talking about their keto no soda diets so they can look good at the gaybar.
>>69261290
You know who else drinks Coke?
>>69261533
Hmm I wonder why celebrity athlete would drink soda on national television.
Me oh my, I just can't think of a single financial incentive.
>>69261520
I told you to post yours first idiot.
>>69261532
I'm not directly criticizing you, you is a hypothetical, and refers to a group of people and it is independent of yourself
>but very slowly
That'd be true if it were a couple hundred people streaming, but that's simply not the case, there are thousands of people that do it, regularly, and not just PPVs but TV and other content
>it wouldnt increase fighter pay a cent
Total bullshit and baseless
>compared to other sport franchises
That's because the UFC isn't other companies, it operates in a completely different way because it's not football, basketball, or soccer
Unless you'd actually like to make an argument that MMA is even remotely as big as any of these sports
>>69261557
You're talking to completely different people my man
>>69261369
>global mma forum
>thread about the fertitta mafia
>guy who's posting it has a putin avatar
what do they say about glass houses and throwing stones again
GSP's opponent is going to be so cheerypicked it's not even funny.
My speculation is that they'll get him a top 5 guy(said guy needs to fake an injury and pull out).
Afterwards they can freely sign a top 20 can against GSP as a last minute replacement while releasing an official statement saying something in the lines of : ''Undefeated prospect steps in to spoil GSP's homecoming in Montreal, this man provides a greater challenge than GSP's original opponent because blah blah''.
Mark my words /heem/ , I see dese tings.
>>69261557
>I told you first
You didn't tell me shit, not everyone is the same, fatso
>is such an obese sack of shit he'll lose control of himself if he drinks a single soda
lmao
>>69261592
Oh wow, the UFC doesn't want to throw GSP to the sharks but also wants to hype the fight
You're so fucking brilliant!!! You should go on the Joe Rogan podcast and share your knowledge!!
>>69261574
it's a fact that the UFC pays out less IN PERCENTAGE relative to other sport franchises/teams
If everyone started buying every PPV instead of streaming, increasing UFC revenues by 1000% and the UFC started paying all its fighters 10x more, they'd still be paying them too little.
>fat boxing faggots still trying to shill their irrelevant shitstain sport
>>69261557
1/10 deflection, you're just a reddit tier troll at this point.
>>69261609
>pays out less in percentage relative to other sports/franchises
There is no fact here, it also based on a fundamental misunderstanding that the UFC and MMA functions like other sports do in general
>they'd still be paying them too little
Now you're just being absurd for the sake of the argument, nice job
>>69261601
The UFC can hype up any fighter. All they need to do is release some crap data about the fighter's background such as : 10 time Olympic gold medalist, 50 time world muay thai champ etc and there you have it. Henry Cejudo, Hector Lombard, Khabib are perfect examples. Meme fighters that get promoted a lot.
>>69261642
damn bro, natty?
>>69261584
Dagwood is a legend
>>69261642
Nice pencil arms
>>69261655
Just weed and alcohol my dude.
>>69261633
>functions like other sports do in general
the only difference is that it has to promote and organise the events
If you look at sports such as racing (which is comparable from that point of view), a lot more money is handed out.
How exactly is the UFC so different from other sports that it can't pay a decent percentage out?
>Now you're just being absurd for the sake of the argument, nice job
I'm not, the whole argument is that the UFC doesn't pay its fighters enough *relative to what they make*
>>69261642
You look like you have aids and painted on your moustache with a pencil.
>>69261675
That's not the only difference and you know it, the pure functioning of a combat sport that involves two individual people that are on fight contracts alone is so drastically in how other sports contracts work
Your "only difference" thing about promoting is also an entirely different fucking aspect
MMA in general is still also very new to the sports scene, let alone the mainstream sports scene
>a lot more money is handed out
They also make a shit ton more
It's not my fault you can't understand such basic yet monumental fucking differences in how a sports company is structured, another issue is that Zuffa is a very privately owned company, we can not for sure even know the actual numbers behind the scene
>I'm not
You are, you just used some giant slippery slope and acted like the UFC would operate in the same way if it made that same money, it doesn't.
But please, go ahead and tell me how the NFL and UFC are so alike in every way other than promotion
>>69261642
Sir, why is it that you took your shirt off and locked the door in a public bathroom just to take a selfie against the mirror?
>>69261707
You jelly brah?
>>69261732
For you
>>69261146
>being a try-hard nerd on a taiwanese scrapbooking forum
You need to break eggs to make omelettes, the UFC is a growing sport, it's not going to stop itself just to satisfy Jimmy Who Gives a Fuck and his split decision wrestlefucks
>>69257777
DELET THIS
REMEMBER WHO WON IT FOR DA LAND FIRST
Reminder that Chael Sonnen interview with Ariel Jewani was five years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru6v16iB0C4
P stands for President.
>>69261146
>Ok but pretentious Tier
all of my ugu
>Absolute garbage for brain dead retards Tier
somehow i find ugu left over
well, for me, personally, I subscribe to whatever mma podcast.
I listen to MMA Junkie Radio, depending on the guest (as a man of discerning taste, I am very picky), TFATK (again, only when there is someone who can live up to my high standards), The Beat, Unfiltered (just kidding, sorry; I would rather slurp rancid tuna fish from my own asshole than listen to another second of that brain damaged moron and knownothing notfunny suck dana and lorenzo's cocks for one second longer).
hopefully this was helpful to you. Thanks for being my friend in Mixed Martial Arts.
>>69257777
Hendo retweeted a pic of him KOing wigged Britsping
>>69261824
Unfiltered is truly shit, could've been better if it was independent, I can't imagine listening to a UFC commercial every week and enjoying it
>>69261146
Tigerbelly
>>69261452
>Science
nigga get the fuck out lmao, all he does is say to schaub is that they can inject "stem cells" in our brain and you will be able to learn martial arts like the matrix.
Not to mention he also fucking thinks we can download our brains and he had that fighter guest who believes humans have a spiritual energy field in which he agreed with.
>Comedy
kek.
You now remember Darrell Horcher.
>>69261837
It's just the combination of it all... You have a guy who knows a lot about MMA but isn't very articulate talking to a guy who is very articulate but doesn't know much about MMA... It's a ridiculous premise in the first place... And then you have them interview the p4p champ? disgusting. Not to mention the fact that they can't say anything that pisses off their bosses... gross.
>>69261725
>They also make a shit ton more
I'm talking about the percentage paid, not the total amount.
I don't know shit about the NFL, but let's take Formula 1 as an example.
Why is that Formula 1 pays its teams ~50% of total revenue but the UFC pays its fighters only ~10%?
How exactly is F1 that different from the UFC? It too sets up events from which it makes money from broadcasting rights, ticket sales, advertisement, etc.
The answer is obviously because fighters have a lot less leverage with the UFC compared to F1 teams.
When asked if the UFC fighters as a whole are getting paid what they deserve, the answer is obviously no (unless you consider what they deserve to be no more than what they can bargain for),
>>69261863
Based Tigerbelly
>>69261891
There's absolutely no reason why the percentage wouldn't go up if the total amount didn't. Again, it's you making a silly assumption based on extremely limited information
>Why is it that two completely different sports in almost every single way have different sports models?
>Why is it that a very popular established world wide sport is functioning differently than one that isn't?
>how exactl is F1 that different from the UFC
How exactly isn't it? Every single fucking aspect of it is completely different from top to bottom, how events and individual things are organized to its popularity
This isnt fucking rocket science
>the answer is obviously no
According to a dumbass like you who thinks F1 and the UFC are basically the same fucking thing
And again, well over half this shit we're talking about is completely unknown and intangible, Zuffa has most of this shit under wraps, you are making wild assumptions with wildly limited evidence and a wildly limited understanding of basic things like the popularity of MMA compared to F1 or any other sports league and how negotiating a fight between two people is profoundly different from organizing a race
>>69261766
>the UFC is a growing sport
>>69261932
Their worth just went up to $4.2 billion, why hasn't pay gone up?
You're an idiot, you know.
>>69261932
10 years ago F1 revenue was 600M, not that much more than the UFC now. Prizes for teams were still ~50%.
>How exactly isn't it? Every single fucking aspect of it is completely different from top to bottom, how events and individual things are organized
I don't really see how the differences are so significant that it completely affects the amount UFC can pay.
You pay for the venue. You get paid from the events' revenues.
>>69261972
Good bait
>>69261972
The roster is larger, they have shows at massive venues around the world.
>>69261974
Gee, I wonder why, I guess that has nothing to do with the fact the UFC and Formula 1 aren't the same fucking thing
Again, your relying on completely unreliable figures based from very limited information
Funnily enough F1 has some shady issues involving unequal team pay, it's also another organization that keeps its numbers very private
>I don't really see how the differences are so sigifnicant that it completely affects the amount UFC can pay
That's because you're a fucking moron who still can't understand basic differences between a fucking racing league and a fighting league
>>69261972
Pay has gone up every single year
>>69262007
Name one major difference that is relevant to this discussion.
You still haven't.
It's still an organisation that books venues to put up shows, and they make money more or less the same way.
Jesus christ let it go Karim
>>69262015
Oh wow instead of making $8k fighters now make $10k, yay thanks Dana.
How many percentage points did that bump it?
Not to mention bonuses went down from 75k, to 60k, to now 50k.
And the money fighters have lost off the reebok deal.
Yeah, pay has really gone up.
>>69262007
You're an idiot, you know.
>>69262015
Yeah but the sponsor revenue the fighters could make was like over half their income. UFC never really paid their fighters well but they could live off sponsor income before.
>>69262026
>you still haven't
They're different fucking sports, it's not my fault you're a fucking dumbass that can't understand how a fighting organization that contracts fighters on an almost fight by fight basis is different than F1
You disregard this MAJOR thing for no reason other than the convenience of your argument, it just shows how little you actually know
>its still an organisation that books venues to put up shows
Oh wow, guess there's nothing else that goes into that!!!
You are fucking clueless, you can simplify it to whatever fits your retarded narrative. It doesn't make you look any less stupid. Here you are arguing that there's barely any difference between F1 and UFC because they have some similarities in booking events while ignoring the millions of hoops and commissions and bullshit the UFC has to go through to book an event and how they literally pay fighters entirely differently, independent of salary, than any other company
And again, you continue to make ridiculous accusations with basically no information
>>69262048
I read your first stupid little clueless post the first time, thanks
But go ahead and try to tell me alongside your stupid little wop friend how the UFC and F1 are virtually identical
>>69262070
Yep, nothing again.
The only difference relevant to this discussion, as I've stated before, is that F1 teams have more leverage on F1 than fighters do on the UFC.
>>69262039
You literally said pay didn't go up, it did
>bonuses went down
Independent of salary, hence why it's called a bonus
>sponorships
Also was independent of salary
>>69262084
>yep nothing again
I'm sorry you're a clueless fucking retard that not only doesn't know something fundamentally fucking different in racing and how everything trickles down to how it trickles down in fighting and how literally everything is set up
>relevant to this discussion
Relevant to you apparently, I also mentioned commissions which you entirely ignored
You're literally ignoring contradictory evidence for the sake of your silly argument.
>f1 teams
You don't even realize when you are contradicting your own argument, UFC doesn't pay teams, it pays individual fighters on a fight contract, this is entirely different to how it would even remotely be in F1 or any other sport, and even then there has been criticism in which teams get leverage in F1
I'm sorry you're a retard, that's not my problem
>>69262090
Pay based via percentage of revenue has not gone up you goof.
The UFC makes way more than it did in 2011. They have a huge tv deal with fox, ppv's are regularly breaking a million, they're worth more now than they've ever been and pay has gone up $2k.
You're an idiot.
That's probably a lower percentage than what it was desu.
>>69262108
The commissions aren't going to cost them 40% of their revenue.
Who gets paid doesn't matter.
The point is still the same.
UFC pays out significantly less in percentage of its revenue compared to other sports franchises.
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>>69262130
Nobody is saying the commissions are going to cost them 40%, that however is one factor of many that you are ignoring and still making stupid baseless claims with basically no actual information
>UFC pays out significantly less
For a variety of reasons already explained that you are completely ignoring for the sake of your argument.
>Im going to ignore the fact that fighting and how fight contracts are setup are entirely different than how it could possibly work in almost any other sport
That's basically your argument and just assuming the UFC is some mega-rich organization
>>69262125
>has not gone up
Still entirely baseless. This is based on the limited information you receive because Zuffa keeps almost everything in the books
>the UFC makes way more than it did in 2011
It also came off two financially horrific years very recently
You keep acting like everything is as simple as adjusting pay and revenue when it simply does not work like that in a sports organization with fighting that contracts fighters on anywhere from 3-10 fight contracts
>talking about fighter pay
reddit is the other way
>>69262108
Dude you are so fucking dumb it's ridiculous. You have generally 40 drivers in a race. 36 fighters on a card.
The drivers that finish the highest get paid the most. The fighters that fight on the main card make the most. The further you go down the less you make for both. The pay is very similar in that regard.
Both companies revenue is brought in by the talent of the drivers/fighters fans tune in for. The owners of the league pay for marketing, the venue, insurance, drug/car testing, and pay their employees/talent.
Why is it then that f1 and every other professional sports league manages to give their talent something approaching 50% of the revenue and provide their talent with a comfortable life and an incentive to follow that as a career choice; whereas, the UFC struggles to payout %10 to its talent, forcing them to get other jobs and struggle to get by.
What is it about the UFC that makes it unable to adequately pay fighters, especially when you see how well the executives of the sport are doing.
Not to mention how short lived and damaging mma is to one's health.
The risk to die is there in both racing and mma, however the pay doesn't match the risk in mma.
>>69262154
My argument is the UFC could easily pay its fighters more and still be a very profitable sport.
They don't because they have no reason to do so because fighters aren't united and therefore have no leverage to ask for more money.
That is the only reason for such a huge disparity (or the only important one).
All the other things you're mentioning pay a minuscule role.
The UFC doesn't pay its fighters more not because it can't but because it doesn't want/need to.
>NEET fucks pretending to understand how business and the basic principle of supply and demand works
>>69261233
>that nose
frank tier
>>69262191
Because a racer isn't a fucking fighter, and there are hundreds of fighters on the total UFC roster the way the contracts themselves are set up and the amount of people involved and how the individual fights and venues are set up are entirely different. This is such a basic yet fucking overwhelming difference that only dumbasses like you cannot possibly comprehend, and no the UFC pays fighters individually, it doesn't pay teams or anything of that nature
This 10% figure again is complete and utter bullshit with no sound basis, it's base from an assumption of a one year figure
F1 also doesn't do PPV's, and like every other sports league, they all have completely different business models
You're trying to simply things that aren't simple, you're still trying to stupidly umbrella F1 and MMA as being similarly run based on the fact there is a universal principle of entertainment
>>69262179
This.
You guys don't know what percentage the UFC pays fighters. Undisclosed bonuses and exact PPV points aren't publicized.
>>69261233
i stab his synthol-filled body and put my dick in the wounds
>>69262278
>implying he isn't natty
beat it you cheeto fingered nerd
>>69262192
>could easily
Based on absolutely nothing still, it's stupid assumptions because you happen to idiotically think the UFC is exactly set up like f1
>play a miniscule role
According to you, after all, you're an incredibly reliable source
>it doesn't want/need to
According to you, again, you're trying to make overwhelming statements about something which you actually do not have a clue about, the fact you and this other retard are still trying to compare F1 and the UFC in terms of business models is utterly absurd, the systems are completely different and that's because racers are not fighters and vice versa
>>69262284
bitch I will fuck him up
pic related: it's me
He doesn't even have points anymore, he just calls people stupid and tries to outlast them to force his opinion.
>>69262304
This thing creeps me the fuck out. Things like that should get their head caved in at birth and buried in the backyard.
>>69262314
Completely agreed, basing your entire argument on the presumption the UFC and F1 operate the exact same way and accepting nothing else is forcing your opinion onto someone
>>69262319
I'm going to find you
>>69262324
That wasn't the basis of anyone's argument.
The basis is that paying the fighters 10% of the UFC's revenue is ridiculous.
And that even in the most similar business model, pay for the talent is much higher.
Someone finishing last in an average race makes ~$77k.
A fighter getting into a war on the prelims makes $10k.
You have produced no explanation for why the UFC is only paying fighters 10%(a generous estimation) of its revenue.
>>69262314
who
>>69262369
That's basically the basis of the entire argument
Comparing the UFC to other sports leagues that are fundamentally, structurally, in every single way different, comparing the UFC with other combat sports is something that actually makes sense, even then it's not that senseful
And here you are again bringing up that absolutely absurd 10% figure which is extrapolated from a one year statsheet which in itself comes from incredibly limited information, you do not remotely have any information on how much the percentage actually is and yet you are still idiotically making extravagant claims on not only how the UFC business model works and how it is so similar to any other sports leagues with no actual argument other than "but its entertainment!!!"
You have produced no explanation as to how contracts are set up in the UFC to how they are set up in other sports, how two people fight, how events are set up, how everything is set up, how that compares to other sports leagues, let alone preexisiting or past affiliations with those leagues and state governments and what not
You are making extravagant claims without equal reasoning, just more extravagant baseless explanations
>generous estimation
Bullshit estimation you are using from one unreliable figure
>waaaah corporations are mean!!!
Dont sign the dotted line then. Dont support the company, dont steal from the company. Plain amd simple
>>69262413
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=boAcF029Dsc
>Cuck gets punched in head for a living
>Cuck chooses MMA over Boxing
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
MMA IS FINISHED
>>69262437
boxing generates a ton of money compared to ufc you fuking goof
>>69262437
That old guy has no idea what he's talking about.
UFC and Boxing are two different sports.
There are literally millions of hoops and commissions and bullshit the UFC has to go through to book an event.
>>69262507
>Boxing doesnt have regulations
shitskin please stop
>>69262507
It's actually stunning you even post this ironically, because it really does show how little you actually understand the basic and massive differences between sports
The UFC promotes its own shit, boxing has many many different promotions
Most boxers get paid fucking peanuts anyways, but go ahead and keep tooting that ridiculous 10% figure and how the UFC is just like racing! That'll show Dana!
>>69262523
It's actually stunning that you keep denying the fact that a lot less money gets paid out by the UFC than other sports franchises and keep claiming that the differences in the way they're run cause account for such an enormous disparity, ignoring the fact that the only important and determining difference between the UFC and other sports is the leverage athletes have.
>>69262369
>The basis is that paying the fighters 10% of the UFC's revenue is ridiculous.
Depends on what the UFC's net income to revenue is.
>>69262547
And what exactly fact is that?
That absolutely absurd 10% number?
>is the leverage athletes have
Because that's literally the only factor, right, there is absolutely nothing else that could determine this? Nothing
This is why I call you a stupid fuck, because you are one, the athletes have the leverage of making their own individual decisions and being adults, now of course there are other factors that come into play here, but they are ones neither of us have any knowledge of, and things you shouldn't try to be idiotically spouting just because you think you're so damn smart
You don't remotely understand the complexities and the models of anything, don't act like you understand how everything works
>caring about someone elses pay check when you aren't making a decent living yourself
>Joe if you don't give me back my coke i swear to fucking god i will kill you
>>69262610
More like
>caring about fighter pay when you're literally stealing their content in these very threads
>>69262607
Obviously it's not the only difference, but it's the most glaring one.
Fighters in the UFC have a lot less leverage than boxers because of the Ali Act and because of the competitive nature of the different boxing organisations.
If you think the other differences cause such a huge difference I think it's you who is the retard.
>>69262607
You're losing it Dana.
who else/doesn'tCareAboutFighterPayAndIsProDanaCauseIEnjoyStealingHisContent/ here
>>69262652
I'd like to see better fighter pay so we get more freak athletes who tend to go into other major sports because of money.
>>69262639
>but it's the most glaring one
According to you
>because of the Ali Act
Which completely screws out the undercard fighters in most cases
>no you!!!!
Wow, another thrilling explanation as to how similar the UFC is to what, FIFA this time? The NBA the next? No, you're right, different business models have absolutely no effect on how everything is distributed
>>69262690
Kids don't train for sports thinking how much they want to get paid, they train because they're interested in it
You can make an unholy amount of money in baseball, youth participation in the states is down though because people simply aren't as interested as they once were
These freak athletes would still inevitably try to pursue the bigger paycheck which the UFC will not be able to give for many years
The UFC isn't predicated on freak athletes anyways, freak athletes don't make good fighters
>unionist cucks
>in my /heem/
>>69262696
Everything you're saying is also according to you, what's your point.
The undercards in boxing events aren't even televised a lot of the time.
It's a simple fact the UFC pays its fighters a lot less.
You're saying this is because of other expenses the UFC incurs because of how it operates, yet you have no idea what you're talking about and are only speculating and saying dumb things like "commissions and bullshit"
The UFC pays its athletes less as a whole than other sports. Deal with it.
>>69262724
The goat is a freak athlete who has 2 brothers in the nfl you goof.
>>69262742
>what's your point
There is nothing clear here, making outstanding claims with the absence of outstanding evidence and nothing to remotely support there not being evidence of absence doesn't mean you can say absurd shit
>aren't even a televised a lot
And?
>its a simple fact
It's not simple, if it was, then we wouldn't be having this discussion, but you've kept pimping these stupid numbers and failed to understand basic differences, even between something as fucking obvious as boxing and UFC promotion
>yet you have no idea what you're talking about
You keep saying this with no actual explanation why
>are only speculating
As opposed to the facts about Bowling is just like mixed martial arts?
>like commission and bullshit
Oh yeah, that one thing that drastically separates combat sports and other sports, among the other billion things I talked about which you are ENTIRELY ignoring for the sake of your argument
You're just making absolutely incessant stupid speculation with no basis that your claims are somehow the slightest bit valid
>the UFC pay its athletes less
No one is disputing that, retardo, the issue here is that it's not as simple as your dumb ass is making it you worthless dago
>you know nothing but i know everything despite comparing fucking darts to the UFC!!!!
You're just trolling at this point
>>69262746
Mighty Mouse has two brothers in the NFL?
>>69262746
Jon Jones has a freak frame, he's not really a freak athlete
Brother cant even dunk
Fuck BJ Penn
Is it true that Dana and the Fertittas test out every female fighter?
>>69262881
Every ring card girl*
They only test out the cute fighters.
Remember prime Ronda and Dana's relationship?
>>69262881
>>69262913
Franks does some blokes too.
>the UFC pays it's fighters adequately
>>69257816
Thats because you don't leave your house faggot.
McGregor vs VanHeerden Director's Cut is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY5c-LPKDi8
>>69263077
>VanHeerden
literally who
>>69263192
"""World Champion""" m8
>>69259634
Your Chad got rekt by natty boi
>>69263214
I think all the punches he took to his head affected his abillity to understand thats its not about him
>>69263077
Nobody who isn't taller than McGregor can beat him. Floyd would lose.
>>69263241
It is about him though.
>>69263192
Low ranked boxer who was still far superior to mcgoobs.
>>69263287
Literally a former champ, and also had nothing for McGregor.
Do you think she has even had cum in her nostrils lads?
>>69261643
>Khabib
>Meme fighter
>>>/gulag/
>>69263307
she looks better when you see her face in 480p
Who /hype for Brock?
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>>69263473
>Who /mandrama/
>>69263473
Brock's just getting a paycheck m8
He'll get rekt
>>69263513
how much do you reckon he is getting paid?
>>69261964
my boi right here
>>69263527
over $1M disclosed + PPV cut + some more undisclosed
>>69263527
>>69263553
sorry, disclosed not over $1M
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>>69263635
>ITS NEW
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>>69263686
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>>69263705
>IT'S (sperg) TIME!
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